The Charlie Kirk Show - June 16, 2023


6 Flaws in the Trump Indictment and Dodgers Celebrate Hate with Will Scharf and Sen. Marco Rubio


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Will Sharf walks us through the problems with Jack Smith's case, and then we have Marco Rubio talk about the decades of decadence and nonsense happening at the Los Angeles Dodgers. Thanks to our sponsor, Turning Point USA, for sponsoring the show.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, it's on the Charlie Kirk show.
00:00:01.000 Will Sharf joins us, who is a former assistant U.S. Attorney.
00:00:06.000 And he walks us through the problems at Jack Smith's case.
00:00:10.000 And then we have Marco Rubio talk about the decades of decadence and also the nonsense happening at the Los Angeles Dodgers.
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00:01:34.000 There was a very viral Twitter thread done by someone I've known for quite a long time, very smart person, Will Scharf, about Donald Trump's indictment.
00:01:44.000 He's making arguments that nobody else is making.
00:01:48.000 It's by Will Scharf, who's also running for Attorney General of Missouri.
00:01:52.000 And it's six reasons DOJ's Get Trump Documents case is seriously flawed.
00:01:58.000 I had many people send me this Twitter thread.
00:02:01.000 It significantly challenged the Uniparty zeitgeist written by someone who knows what he's talking about.
00:02:08.000 Will, welcome to the program.
00:02:09.000 Great to be with you, Charlie.
00:02:10.000 Thanks so much for having me.
00:02:11.000 Of course.
00:02:12.000 Will, let's go through the six pieces.
00:02:14.000 You take it at your own choosing of which ones you want to highlight first.
00:02:18.000 The floor is yours.
00:02:20.000 Sure.
00:02:21.000 So I think it's really important to note: DOJ wants, the special counsel's office wants you to think that this case is very simple.
00:02:31.000 They want you to think that because documents with classified markings were found at Mar-a-Lago, that means President Trump is going to end up going to prison.
00:02:40.000 It's not that simple.
00:02:42.000 What we're dealing with here is the interplay between two complicated statutes.
00:02:47.000 One is the Espionage Act, the other is the Presidential Records Act.
00:02:51.000 I get into more detail on this on my Twitter thread, and it's now been republished in Federalist and some other places.
00:02:59.000 But the key is going to end up being President Trump's intent.
00:03:04.000 What did he know?
00:03:05.000 What was he intending?
00:03:07.000 What documents did he designate as personal records versus presidential records under the Presidential Records Act?
00:03:15.000 The Special Counsel's Office has a very, very difficult task ahead of it in terms of proving President Trump's willfulness in the knowledge of in the language of the statute.
00:03:26.000 Yeah, and there's another angle here that you say, the timing.
00:03:31.000 Will.
00:03:31.000 Why is the timing important?
00:03:33.000 So, you know, it's been long-standing Department of Justice policy that you don't bring an indictment or commit any overt investigative act during the pendency of an election in the days running up to an election.
00:03:47.000 And the reason for that is that no prosecutorial decision should ever seem to be politically motivated or based on political timing.
00:03:56.000 What the special counsel's office has done here is indicted the president, President Trump, the key opponent of ultimately the special counsel's boss, Joe Biden.
00:04:08.000 He's indicted him during this presidential campaign.
00:04:11.000 The timing is highly suspect.
00:04:13.000 Why didn't they wait till after the election?
00:04:16.000 There's no statute of limitations issue.
00:04:18.000 There's no reason why they couldn't have announced the results of their investigation and then waited for the election to be over.
00:04:25.000 It certainly seems to me and a lot of others like that the political timing was the reason here, that that's why they brought this when they did.
00:04:34.000 And that's just really suspect.
00:04:36.000 That's not how these sorts of things are supposed to work.
00:04:39.000 You couple that with Jack Smith's history, some of his previous prosecutions that have been challenged or overturned, like the prosecution of Republican Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, which the Supreme Court overturned unanimously.
00:04:54.000 That was one of Jack Smith's top hits before this.
00:04:57.000 This whole thing, to me, just reeks of politics.
00:05:00.000 And in this country, under the rule of law, no prosecution should be a political prosecution the way that we're seeing here.
00:05:08.000 Yeah, I'll tell you, it is political.
00:05:11.000 And I want to explore this after the break, Will.
00:05:13.000 Will's also running for Attorney General of Missouri.
00:05:15.000 He would do a great job there.
00:05:16.000 I want to talk about Project 65, but you mentioned an important thing, intent, right?
00:05:21.000 They're going to have to prove intent, which Operation Mockingbird's CIA Morning Joe, they're already trying to say that the intent was Donald Trump trying to potentially sell these documents.
00:05:33.000 I have the most simple, honest, and truthful explanation as to why Donald Trump kept these documents.
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00:06:52.000 There's all this ridiculous speculation out there.
00:06:54.000 Why did Trump have all these documents?
00:06:56.000 Why is he so attached to documents?
00:06:59.000 And someone emailed us, Charlie, had these documents so he could get back at the deep state.
00:07:02.000 Okay, well, that could be true.
00:07:04.000 I don't think that's the explanation.
00:07:05.000 It's actually really simple.
00:07:07.000 Let's just play Cut 92.
00:07:08.000 They're trying to trial balloon the intent here.
00:07:10.000 PlayCut 92.
00:07:11.000 Former White House aides tell the New York Times Trump was unusually attached to those boxes and their contents throughout his presidency and after leaving office.
00:07:23.000 Are you saying he was unusually attached?
00:07:27.000 Unusually attached to the boxes and their contents.
00:07:30.000 So many people get unusually attached to other human beings.
00:07:34.000 Yes.
00:07:34.000 You know, faith or what.
00:07:37.000 But he's unusually attached to the presentation.
00:07:39.000 He loved these boxes.
00:07:40.000 He loved them.
00:07:41.000 And he was obsessed with them.
00:07:43.000 All right.
00:07:44.000 This is so simple.
00:07:46.000 Anyone who spent time around Donald Trump in his Trump Tower office in Mar-a-Lago or the White House knows that Donald Trump loves memorabilia.
00:07:56.000 He loves it.
00:07:58.000 Just a picture of his Trump Tower office shows you everything, whether it be mementos, things he signed, pictures with people.
00:08:07.000 That's his office in Trump Tower a couple years ago.
00:08:10.000 This is not some sort of overly convoluted international conspiracy.
00:08:13.000 Donald Trump is going to sell these documents to Saudi Arabia.
00:08:16.000 He's kind of like how I am, just a little bit of a hoarder of stuff that you had.
00:08:21.000 I mean, it's just things you signed, memories.
00:08:24.000 This is not a complicated explanation, everybody.
00:08:27.000 And by the way, you want evidence of this?
00:08:30.000 He literally just published a book called Letters to Trump of letters that he has kept for 40 years.
00:08:38.000 And in the book is letters from Oprah, letters from the Queen.
00:08:46.000 And he was probably annoyed that people just kept trying to take this stuff away from him, and he felt possessive over it.
00:08:52.000 And there's nothing wrong with that.
00:08:53.000 Will Scharf continues with us.
00:08:55.000 Will, do they have to now prove the intent of this?
00:08:58.000 Is it a justifiable defense if Trump says, look, I like keeping things.
00:09:02.000 There's nothing wrong with that.
00:09:04.000 Well, it's even more important in the context of the Presidential Records Act, Charlie, because under the Presidential Records Act, the president has the right to define what are his personal records, which are the kind of memorabilia you're talking about, diaries, journals, all that sort of stuff.
00:09:20.000 And he has the right to maintain possession of that.
00:09:22.000 That's his stuff.
00:09:24.000 Then there are presidential records, which are going to be official documents memorializing decisions he made or things like that.
00:09:31.000 That stuff's supposed to go to NARA, to the National Archive.
00:09:35.000 But the president is the decider.
00:09:37.000 The president is the one who, under the law, gets to make the determination of what are personal records versus presidential records.
00:09:45.000 And that's at the core of this case.
00:09:47.000 It's the interplay between the statute he's charged under, the Espionage Act, and the Presidential Records Act.
00:09:53.000 If he was just keeping items of personal significance to him, arguably he had the right to maintain possession of those items.
00:10:01.000 And the special counsel is going to have a tough hill to climb to prove otherwise.
00:10:06.000 And that's really that's a key legal distinction that they're eliding over.
00:10:11.000 You've spent time around President Trump a lot more time around him than I have, but anyone who's been around him, anyone who's been in his offices or around even people who work for him knows that he likes to keep memorabilia.
00:10:23.000 He likes to keep stuff of personal importance to him.
00:10:27.000 And I think that's what these boxes were.
00:10:29.000 He just packaged up his stuff and he moved back to Mar-a-Lago and he took his stuff with him.
00:10:34.000 And that's at the heart of this case.
00:10:37.000 The idea that you would indict someone under charges under the Espionage Act for what happened here, it just doesn't pass the smell test.
00:10:46.000 You're exactly right.
00:10:47.000 He's a memorabilia guy.
00:10:49.000 He always has been.
00:10:50.000 So, for example, you know, when I visited him in the Oval Office a couple of times, he'd be like, oh, let me show you some of this.
00:10:55.000 And there's like a whole room full of stuff, right?
00:10:58.000 Like a sword that the king of Saudi Arabia gave him and like a flag that like the Sultan of Brunei gave him and like something from the Vatican.
00:11:07.000 It's just everybody is wired differently.
00:11:10.000 And not to mention, he also probably wanted it for his presidential library, of which other presidents wanted it.
00:11:15.000 And so he had the Presidential Records Act in there, but this whole narrative we have to push back aggressively, which is, oh, he wants, I mean, Michael Cohen, yeah, he wanted it so he could sell it to the Iranians or to the Saudis.
00:11:28.000 Like, no, really simple.
00:11:30.000 Actually, he just likes stuff.
00:11:32.000 And there's nothing wrong with that.
00:11:34.000 I can resonate with it.
00:11:36.000 We have a picture of him in his office.
00:11:37.000 It is, as far as the eye can see, pictures and firearms that were given to him and selfies and photographs and humanitarian awards and books and bumper stickers and copies of the Financial Times.
00:11:53.000 It's just who he is.
00:11:54.000 All right, Will, we're out of time.
00:11:55.000 Thanks so much.
00:11:57.000 Thanks for having me, Charlie.
00:11:58.000 Really appreciate it.
00:11:59.000 Thank you.
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00:13:39.000 We will be joined by Senator Marco Rubio, who has a very interesting new book, which I think is important and very interesting, which is Decades of Decadence.
00:13:51.000 And it fits perfectly to kind of this new era that we're in where finally we're allowed to push back on neoliberalism.
00:14:00.000 Finally, we're able to say, you know, maybe it's not a good thing that we shut down all of our factories and that we have manufacturing jobs going overseas.
00:14:10.000 I mean, trade can make a nation wealthier, but is all trade the same?
00:14:14.000 Should all trade be without tariffs or some consideration for whether or not you're ruining your domestic industrial base when you don't even make vitamin C or critical pharmaceuticals in our own country?
00:14:28.000 Senator Rubio writes in his book, the assumption was perfectly summarized by Clinton when he said, quote, by joining the WTO, China is not simply agreeing to import more of our products, it is agreeing to import one of our democracy's most cherished values, economic freedom.
00:14:43.000 The results were predictable, Senator Rubio writes.
00:14:46.000 Instead of importing economic freedom, as Clinton predicted, what we exported was our industrial strength.
00:14:50.000 That's exactly right.
00:14:52.000 The result has been an economic, social, and geopolitical disaster.
00:14:55.000 Tens of thousands of American factories disappeared, and an estimated 3.7 million American manufacturing jobs went with them.
00:15:01.000 As a result, many of the communities that grew up around those factories became hollowed out.
00:15:05.000 Think of the Rust Belt.
00:15:06.000 For example, in small towns in the American Midwest that once supplied the world with steel, textiles, and tools and furniture industry on the Upper South, many of those towns saw sharp declines in population in the early years of the 21st century.
00:15:21.000 So there is a fair amount there.
00:15:25.000 I mean, look, you look, it's very interesting.
00:15:27.000 We blew out entire states and communities so consultants and managers can make their balance sheet look better at the end of the year.
00:15:36.000 There is a villain in this play that doesn't get as much attention as they really should, and that is McKinsey.
00:15:44.000 You may or may not have heard of McKinsey before.
00:15:47.000 What is McKinsey?
00:15:48.000 McKinsey is a global management consulting company founded in 1926.
00:15:53.000 Interestingly enough, once the employer of Pete Buttige, 38,000 employees headquartered in New York City, McKinsey are the smart guys.
00:16:02.000 Lots of Ivy League graduates.
00:16:06.000 They say they offer professional services to corporations, government, other organizations.
00:16:10.000 But McKinsey really became one of, but the leading driving force to shut down factories and to save pennies on a dollar to go make socks, go make a sweatshirt.
00:16:24.000 And McKinsey would come into a company and say, oh, no, no, no, no.
00:16:29.000 Instead of doing it in Youngston, Ohio, instead of doing it in Marshallton, Iowa, instead of doing it in Fayetteville, Arkansas, instead of doing it in Missoula, Montana, just close down that factory, send it to Wuhan, China.
00:16:42.000 We'll do all the work for you.
00:16:44.000 We'll arrange the arrival of your product from China to America.
00:16:50.000 Yeah, you got to sign some documents that basically says the Chinese Communist Party is able to intellectually steal all of your property, but it's worth it because you can now make a trinket, socks, underwear, textiles, phone, television for, let's just say, a sock. 0.82
00:17:09.000 You now can make it for three cents instead of six cents.
00:17:13.000 And you don't have to pay those pesky unions anymore.
00:17:15.000 And McKinsey was the one that drove this.
00:17:19.000 They were the designers.
00:17:21.000 They were the conductors of this entire retreat, this movement.
00:17:28.000 And yeah, Pete Buttigeg did work for them.
00:17:30.000 And now we have with us Senator Marco Rubio.
00:17:33.000 Senator, thank you for making time for us and welcome to the program.
00:17:35.000 Hey, thanks for having me on.
00:17:36.000 I appreciate it.
00:17:37.000 So, Senator, your book is Decades of Decadence.
00:17:39.000 Tell us about your book.
00:17:41.000 Well, basically, the argument is at the end of the Cold War, our elites and both parties decided that the world was not going to need countries anymore.
00:17:48.000 So we didn't have to act in the national interest.
00:17:50.000 It didn't matter where the jobs were, where the factories were.
00:17:53.000 That all the institutions that have worked for 5,500 years, things like parenting, family, community, none of these things mattered.
00:17:59.000 We would all be consumers and investors in the global economy.
00:18:02.000 We would be citizens of the world. 0.94
00:18:04.000 And by the way, America wasn't worth saving anyway because it was evil and grotesque and systemically racist.
00:18:10.000 And they've carried out a 30-year attack.
00:18:12.000 We got away with it for a while because we were the only power in the world and we thought we could do whatever we wanted.
00:18:16.000 And now we're paying the price for it at every level.
00:18:18.000 Now we've had basically this virus of lunacy that they call social justice leave the lab of faculty clubs and is now spreading to every institution in society.
00:18:30.000 I mean, after 30 years of inculcating this, people with the graduate degrees and all the advanced degrees, these are now the CEOs and the senior executives in the media in corporate America, the senior bureaucracy in government.
00:18:42.000 They're all products of that system.
00:18:44.000 We've got hollowed out towns across this country where people were left behind and told to go learn how to code.
00:18:49.000 And so, you know, now we have families falling apart, communities falling apart, all the institutions that we used to share in common and hold us together.
00:18:58.000 And now we've got a war on family itself because we basically have an educational system that is obsessed with telling kids, don't listen to your parents, don't listen to what they teach you or tell you.
00:19:08.000 In fact, don't even tell them some stuff about yourself.
00:19:12.000 You know, we can help raise you.
00:19:14.000 Society is going to help raise you.
00:19:15.000 Or as Joe Biden says, he thinks my kids are his kids and they're not.
00:19:20.000 So, you know, we've got to get that corrected.
00:19:22.000 Obviously, China's not playing this game.
00:19:24.000 And that's the most, I think, troubling part.
00:19:27.000 Every decision China has made over the last 30 years have been to further the Chinese national interest, which I understand.
00:19:34.000 That's what countries do.
00:19:35.000 I think we're the only big country in the world who for 30 years has not made decisions on the basis of what's best for America.
00:19:41.000 We've made decisions on what's based for the global economy or what's based for the international order.
00:19:46.000 And we just can't do it anymore.
00:19:48.000 I mean, it was a bad idea to begin with, but now it's a destructive idea.
00:19:51.000 We better get it right.
00:19:52.000 We're running out of time.
00:19:53.000 We're the only major country that doesn't act on our own self-interest.
00:19:57.000 And when we even whisper trying to have policies that benefit the homeland, we immediately have to be accused by our own people that were racist and xenophobic.
00:20:07.000 It's bizarre and it's unsustainable.
00:20:10.000 So, Senator, the book is called Decades of Decadence.
00:20:14.000 Can you talk about elite capture, though, which is some of our elites are the ones that are not just designing it, but benefiting it.
00:20:22.000 Their profit model, their business model is a capital flow of turning their back on America and cozying up to the Chinese Communist Party. 0.86
00:20:29.000 We see this in the National Basketball Association and Wall Street.
00:20:32.000 We see this sometimes in Silicon Valley.
00:20:34.000 It's a problem.
00:20:36.000 Build out the problem for a second, but then most importantly, what is the solution?
00:20:39.000 How do we create a policy agenda to hold our elites accountable for, quite honestly, betraying the American homeland?
00:20:46.000 Yeah.
00:20:46.000 So first, understand that people have been told for 30 years, country doesn't matter anymore.
00:20:50.000 It just doesn't really, there's not going to be anything as country.
00:20:53.000 It really is not significant.
00:20:55.000 And that America as a country actually wasn't all that great, that that was a myth.
00:20:59.000 And that, in fact, this country is built on a tradition of terrible things.
00:21:03.000 So that's what they've been telling people for a long time.
00:21:05.000 So now, put that together with the fact that we also said, look, jobs need to go wherever the labor is the cheapest.
00:21:12.000 Factories need to be wherever it costs the least to do.
00:21:15.000 And I think generally that's the right approach in the market.
00:21:17.000 The problem is that sometimes the best market outcome is bad for America.
00:21:20.000 Okay, it's cheaper to make medicine in China, but it doesn't mean we should, it's not good for America to depend on China for our medicine.
00:21:27.000 And so people, but people have made money off of this.
00:21:29.000 There is a group of people in this country.
00:21:30.000 That was the law.
00:21:31.000 The law allowed them to do it.
00:21:32.000 They made a lot of money.
00:21:33.000 The NBA makes a lot of money expanding to China.
00:21:35.000 And when you approach them and say, well, but that's not good for America.
00:21:38.000 What you're doing is not good for America.
00:21:40.000 What you're doing is not in our national interest.
00:21:41.000 Well, they don't have any concept of national interest.
00:21:44.000 They're inculcated in a system that argues that that's not the case.
00:21:47.000 Now, you combine with that with the fact that these institutions are also populated by people that from a cultural standpoint were raised up in this whole, you know, it is possible.
00:21:58.000 I guarantee you that in all these marketing departments of all these corporations, they don't know anyone who thinks it's a bad idea to do this pride stuff down your throat every day for an entire month.
00:22:08.000 Everybody thinks this is great.
00:22:09.000 And they don't know anybody who disagrees because they live in communities where those who disagree have to pretend that they agree or they'll be run out as well or fired or stigmatized, they're called or racist or xenophobia.
00:22:19.000 The border is another example.
00:22:20.000 When you don't believe that country matters anymore, then an effort to enforce your border is xenophobia.
00:22:26.000 Why wouldn't we let people just come here anytime they want?
00:22:29.000 We're all global citizens.
00:22:30.000 People should be allowed to live wherever they want.
00:22:33.000 And you enforce the laws because you don't like those people.
00:22:38.000 And so that, I think, has sort of now there is really no major institution in society.
00:22:44.000 And I add to that the church.
00:22:45.000 I mean, look at these denominations that are being split apart by some of this stuff.
00:22:51.000 It's become a lunacy.
00:22:53.000 It's like the French Revolution, you know, got out of control and they ran out of people who guillotine. 0.50
00:22:57.000 And eventually the guy that ran the guillotine got guillotined himself because they needed to have Maximia and Robespierre.
00:23:02.000 That's right.
00:23:04.000 They're now going after everybody here.
00:23:06.000 I saw something yesterday, okay?
00:23:08.000 A Muslim-majority community, I believe in Michigan, right?
00:23:12.000 Or Minnesota, I forget if it was Michigan or Minnesota, Muslim-majority community.
00:23:15.000 The entire city council is Muslim.
00:23:17.000 They basically said, look, we're not going to fly these pride flags over our city hall on government property.
00:23:21.000 You want to fly it in your home?
00:23:22.000 You can't.
00:23:24.000 You have people that don't even live in that town going there to pressure these people and attack these people because there's no end in sight.
00:23:30.000 They will not stop.
00:23:31.000 There is nothing.
00:23:32.000 There is no one or nothing they will stop.
00:23:34.000 Just think about how we used to talk about these issues, if at all, 10 or 15 years ago, and what's happened now.
00:23:39.000 Look at Joe Biden.
00:23:41.000 Joe Biden doesn't even know what half this stuff is.
00:23:44.000 He's for it because his party's been completely captured by these radical social justice left-wing lunatics who have no concept or belief in country or government.
00:23:54.000 People ask me, you think he's going to be the candidate?
00:23:56.000 I think he's their perfect candidate because he's going to do whatever they tell him or if even knows what's going on.
00:24:01.000 And if something were to happen to him, they get Kamala Harris, which actually believes in all this stuff, but can never be elected on her own.
00:24:07.000 Oh, that's right. 0.87
00:24:08.000 I hope she's a candidate.
00:24:09.000 I think we would almost assuredly win.
00:24:10.000 Has the Republican Party changed in your time in the Senate on these issues?
00:24:17.000 I think the electorate's changed.
00:24:18.000 There's still, I think, a pretty big disconnect between the Republican office holder.
00:24:24.000 Now, I do think we've got good people coming in.
00:24:25.000 You talk about Eric Schmidt, who's got elected, and you talk about JD Vance, and you talk about Josh Hawley.
00:24:33.000 And obviously, people are very solid on a lot of issues, like Mike Lee and Ted Cruz.
00:24:36.000 So I do think that as the years go on, we're going to get more and more people in the Senate that sort of view this thing a little bit differently.
00:24:43.000 And it's probably hard.
00:24:44.000 Look, listen, I didn't come from the school of thought 20, 15 years ago.
00:24:48.000 I was raised in the late 20th century, early 21st century Republicanism.
00:24:52.000 But you start to see these things and you start to realize, hey, the world is changing, the country's changing.
00:24:57.000 Then you ask why.
00:24:58.000 And when you figure out why, it forces you to re-examine a lot of the ways you view these things and understand that we've got to provide answers to people.
00:25:05.000 I actually think there's a realignment happening in American politics today that's fascinating.
00:25:09.000 And that is people that work for a living, who care about common sense and tradition and our culture as Americans, irrespective of what differences of opinion they might have on some other issues, are going to increasingly band together.
00:25:21.000 And we need to give them options on the political front.
00:25:23.000 That's well said.
00:25:24.000 I personally used to be blindly neoliberal.
00:25:26.000 And then I woke up and realized the country's becoming poorer and the Chinese are taking over the world. 1.00
00:25:33.000 Senator, tonight there is a lot of drama around the Los Angeles Dodgers who are celebrating by all public reports, it seems, this hate group called the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.
00:25:49.000 Not a joke.
00:25:50.000 You wanted to run an advertisement trying to expose them.
00:25:55.000 I do want to just remind our audience how disgusting this organization is and play a piece of tape. 0.79
00:26:00.000 And then I'll allow you to dive into it.
00:26:03.000 And this is, where's our tape here, guys?
00:26:06.000 Here it is.
00:26:07.000 Okay, let's play Cut 103 of one of the members of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, play cut 103.
00:26:14.000 I'm mocking.
00:26:15.000 I'm using satire.
00:26:16.000 You're absolutely mocking when you put Jesus on a cross and you pull dance on.
00:26:19.000 Like our bullies, you are putting words in my mouth.
00:26:21.000 And I really don't know.
00:26:22.000 Everybody's seen it.
00:26:23.000 Everybody has seen it.
00:26:24.000 Yes, everyone has seen the satire that we do.
00:26:26.000 And then they describe it in these terms that make them, oh, I'm being aware of that.
00:26:30.000 I am telling you, as a Christian.
00:26:33.000 As a Christian, that is extremely, extremely offensive.
00:26:36.000 When I see my God on the cross, it's mocked.
00:26:39.000 That's offensive. 0.99
00:26:40.000 You're using your God to make me look sad, to make me look foolish, to beat me up. 0.99
00:26:45.000 Why can't you just say, yeah, that was wrong? 0.99
00:26:47.000 You could just say, yeah, that was not wrong to heal people who were beaten and shot for being gay and trans. 0.96
00:26:53.000 How dare you, madam? 0.98
00:26:54.000 How dare you shame us? 0.96
00:26:56.000 How dare you shame us in our own pride festival, madam. 0.99
00:27:00.000 So, Senator Rubio, you were trying to run an ad, but it seems like it's rejected by a station.
00:27:04.000 Help me understand Senator Rubio.
00:27:06.000 Yeah, first of all, look, this is not even an anti-pride as Dodgers, you know, whatever.
00:27:09.000 We were going to write letters about every anti-Pride event or every Pride event.
00:27:13.000 You know, we'd run out of paper.
00:27:14.000 It's not even that.
00:27:16.000 This is a group that LGBT groups have turned away from because they openly mock Catholicism and Christianity, doing some of the grotesque things that was described in that talk. 1.00
00:27:25.000 Not to mention things like using a condom in place of the Eucharist to mock the Catholic mass. 0.69
00:27:30.000 In essence, these guys wouldn't have the guts to do that against Islam, which has identical teachings in many ways to Christianity.
00:27:36.000 That's right.
00:27:36.000 They wouldn't do it to that.
00:27:37.000 They wouldn't do it to Orthodox Judaism, but they do it to Christianity in particular to Catholicism because they think they can get away with it. 0.84
00:27:42.000 Okay, so that's what they do.
00:27:43.000 That's fine. 1.00
00:27:44.000 They have a First Amendment right to be pigs. 0.98
00:27:46.000 But the problem is that the Dodgers decided we're going to honor them as heroes, honor them. 1.00
00:27:51.000 So you're no longer just like tolerating these guys doing this stuff because the law protects them and allows you to be an idiot. 0.99
00:27:57.000 But you have to actually now honor them. 0.99
00:27:59.000 as some heroic.
00:28:00.000 So what you're basically honoring is bigotry and hatred because that's what they're promoting, bigotry and hatred.
00:28:04.000 So I tried to run an ad that basically says that.
00:28:07.000 This is a hate group.
00:28:08.000 It's a hate group.
00:28:09.000 And the station that carries the Dodgers game wouldn't carry it.
00:28:11.000 It doesn't end there.
00:28:12.000 I mean, we tried to post, put an op-ed in the LA Times.
00:28:15.000 They didn't even answer us.
00:28:16.000 They wouldn't even respond to us, much less reject it.
00:28:18.000 So look, they don't want to talk about it.
00:28:19.000 It's indefensible, you know, and they actually disinvited them after I wrote the Dodgers, and then they changed their mind under withering pressure and brought them back.
00:28:27.000 But the broader point is it is no longer enough to just have differences.
00:28:30.000 It's no longer an appeal to tolerance.
00:28:33.000 Like we tolerate them, they tolerate us, differences of opinion, we move on.
00:28:37.000 It is the outright celebration of hatred and bigotry against Catholicism in specific, but Christianity in general.
00:28:44.000 It's allowed.
00:28:45.000 You can mock Christianity. 0.99
00:28:46.000 You can do all these.
00:28:47.000 But in a hateful way, and not only are we going to tolerate that, we're going to celebrate it.
00:28:51.000 A major league baseball franchise, one of the largest cities in America, is openly celebrating it under withering pressure from the far left and the like.
00:28:59.000 And that's what we tried to do, and they wouldn't let us do it.
00:29:04.000 They're receiving an award.
00:29:07.000 This is not as if they're just invited amongst the other things, which would be bad.
00:29:10.000 They are being recognized.
00:29:11.000 Scott Weiner, who he's a real something.
00:29:15.000 Scott Weiner, I think it's labeled as 103.
00:29:17.000 You got the clip there, Ryan.
00:29:18.000 Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence are a really important civic organization. 1.00
00:29:22.000 Let's play that clip.
00:29:23.000 The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence are a really important civic organization.
00:29:29.000 They raise money for people who are in desperate need of support.
00:29:35.000 They're not in any way anti-Catholic.
00:29:39.000 So, Senator, I mean, that's a sitting lawmaker in California, but just closing thoughts here.
00:29:43.000 There is a counter prayer happening here.
00:29:47.000 Senator, final thoughts.
00:29:49.000 Yeah, look, ultimately, Christianity actually flourishes when it's oppressed.
00:29:53.000 You know, and when it gets comfortable, it actually doesn't grow.
00:29:55.000 And that's why Christianity, you know, some people would argue there are more.
00:29:59.000 If you look at 100 million underground Christians in China, there's probably more Christians practicing vibrant Christians in China right now than there are in America.
00:30:07.000 100 million.
00:30:08.000 So the Christian faith is one that grows and prospers under persecution.
00:30:14.000 I don't think it's something we welcome or want, and we have a constitutional system that's supposed to protect against it.
00:30:18.000 But we have to stand up and call for what it is.
00:30:21.000 We just do because this line, they will not stop.
00:30:23.000 This will not stop.
00:30:24.000 That's right.
00:30:25.000 And they openly mock, smear, and slander.
00:30:28.000 And Senator, I want to thank you for your willingness and courage on this.
00:30:31.000 It seems as if most Republicans are afraid to engage on this during our new quote-unquote pride month, and you deserve to be really commended for that. 0.98
00:30:40.000 Senator, thank you so much for your time.
00:30:41.000 Appreciate it.
00:30:42.000 And check out his book, Decades of Decadence.
00:30:44.000 Thanks for having me.
00:30:48.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:30:49.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:30:52.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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