The Charlie Kirk Show - June 16, 2023


8 Years Ago Today, Everything Changed


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Eight years ago today, Donald Trump went down the Golden Escalator and our lives were never the same. It's one of the most iconic moments in American political history, and it's no coincidence that it happened eight years to the day after Donald Trump announced he was running for president.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 Eight years ago today, everything changed.
00:00:05.000 Donald Trump went down the escalator and our lives were never the same.
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00:01:16.000 I'd say most people didn't take it seriously.
00:01:19.000 It was considered a joke.
00:01:21.000 It quickly turned into an internet meme.
00:01:24.000 There's no way this guy is serious talking like this.
00:01:26.000 This is just for him to sell more apartment buildings.
00:01:29.000 And this is a branding exercise.
00:01:32.000 Where were you?
00:01:35.000 Where were you when you first heard the news?
00:01:41.000 Not 9-11, not even for some of you, Pearl Harbor, not the Kennedy assassination.
00:01:48.000 Now, where were you when Donald Trump went down the golden escalator?
00:01:53.000 I think it's without a doubt one of the most top 30, top 40, top 50 significant moments in American political history, easily.
00:02:03.000 Where were you?
00:02:04.000 Were you sitting at home kind of minding your own business, maybe listening to Rush?
00:02:07.000 And all of a sudden you saw this, you said, oh, this is interesting.
00:02:10.000 Were you in the car?
00:02:12.000 Were you at work?
00:02:14.000 It started as a joke.
00:02:16.000 Circles I was running at the time certainly didn't take it very seriously.
00:02:20.000 Remember, it was supposed to be Jeb Bush, who's going to be the nominee.
00:02:24.000 Donald Trump also announced right next to Jeb Bush intentionally.
00:02:28.000 Or Marco Rubio, or maybe Ted Cruz, Scott Walker.
00:02:34.000 Who is this Trump guy?
00:02:35.000 Who does he think he is running for president?
00:02:37.000 This is just a branding thing.
00:02:38.000 He's just there to try to boost his name ID.
00:02:41.000 Egomaniac, whatever.
00:02:43.000 Let's not take him seriously.
00:02:45.000 He went down the golden escalator, and that was eight years ago to the day today.
00:02:52.000 And everything changed.
00:02:55.000 Everything changed.
00:02:57.000 Eight years ago, Donald Trump went down that escalator and gave a 43-minute speech that was noticeably different at the time than almost any other political speech that we heard.
00:03:11.000 Of course, it was Trump who had built-up name ID, rap songs, apprentice, best-selling author, art of the deal, branded buildings, the darling of New York.
00:03:20.000 If you went to somebody in Missouri or Montana, you said, hey, name me an American billionaire, they would almost certainly say Donald Trump.
00:03:28.000 You thought of rich, American, successful, little braggadocia, a little bit shoot from the hip, American spirit.
00:03:36.000 Donald Trump, Oprah loved him.
00:03:38.000 He was the darling of the media for American entrepreneurial capitalism, building, build big buildings and golf courses and casinos and football teams and airlines and Trump stakes and all this.
00:03:50.000 He just was relentless.
00:03:51.000 He was that life force of energy.
00:03:55.000 And he knew how to use the media.
00:03:57.000 Did it for years.
00:03:57.000 But then all of a sudden, Donald Trump goes down the escalator and he didn't run this by people.
00:04:02.000 He didn't call Chuck U. Schumer or Nancy Pelosi.
00:04:05.000 He didn't call McConnell and say, hey, just so you know, I'm thinking of doing this.
00:04:10.000 He didn't call a bunch of donors and say, hey, you know, I need to have this launch and I'd like to have you there and you guys can support me.
00:04:18.000 He didn't get permission.
00:04:20.000 He just woke up one day and said, hey, that atrium in Trump Tower, just go put a little thing there.
00:04:26.000 It says, Trump, make America great again.
00:04:30.000 And I'm going to go make an announcement.
00:04:32.000 Yes, sir, Mr. Trump.
00:04:33.000 Yes, sir.
00:04:34.000 Puts his family together.
00:04:35.000 Hey, guys, by the way, I'm running for president.
00:04:37.000 And they said, oh, really?
00:04:39.000 He just winged it.
00:04:41.000 Every other politician, they have consulting fees, perfectly tailored and manicured visuals, inviting every single friend, babysitter, client, and cousin to their announcement address.
00:04:58.000 Donald Trump was just like, eh, I've basically done everything else.
00:05:03.000 Traveled the world, best-selling author, number one TV show. 0.52
00:05:07.000 Country's going to hell.
00:05:09.000 Let's see what we got.
00:05:13.000 And eight years ago, Donald Trump went down that escalator.
00:05:17.000 And he committed the greatest of all crimes.
00:05:23.000 It didn't sink in immediately when he did it.
00:05:27.000 The American flags flanked the brightest red, candy, red tie you could imagine.
00:05:33.000 The alpha male mannerisms, not talking like a politician, engaging with the audience.
00:05:41.000 His beautiful family flanked around him.
00:05:44.000 It's like right out of central casting.
00:05:47.000 But he committed a serious crime.
00:05:50.000 No, he didn't take a bunch of money from China or Burisma.
00:05:55.000 He didn't smash a bunch of cell phones or lie to the FBI.
00:05:59.000 No, he committed a crime that Washington, D.C. does not think is very funny.
00:06:05.000 And then he did it again.
00:06:07.000 And then he did it again.
00:06:09.000 And then he made a whole campaign around it.
00:06:12.000 His crime was noticing.
00:06:16.000 Donald Trump said out loud, repeatedly, and sometimes rudely, that the country was going to hell.
00:06:27.000 He said out loud that the rich were getting infinitely richer and screwing the American middle class. 1.00
00:06:36.000 He said out loud that these foreign wars are pointless, aimless, stupid. 1.00
00:06:42.000 He said out loud that we have millions of people waltzing into our country. 1.00
00:06:47.000 He asked the question: why are we in NATO again?
00:06:49.000 Is this a good deal for us?
00:06:52.000 He noticed that China was taking over the world and our leaders were complicit. 0.94
00:07:00.000 His crime was noticing the outright fraud, the plunder that the cartel of Washington, D.C. was engaged in.
00:07:11.000 You see that picture there of Donald Trump at the presidency.
00:07:14.000 People said, there's no way this is going to resonate.
00:07:16.000 There is no way.
00:07:17.000 That's what all the experts said.
00:07:19.000 Quite honestly, at the time, being young and naive, I said, this is not going to go anywhere.
00:07:23.000 I was only three years into this thing.
00:07:25.000 I thought that we were still in a policy debate.
00:07:28.000 Oh, yeah, high taxes, low taxes, balance the budget, reform Social Security.
00:07:33.000 Here's Donald Trump all of a sudden going after the three third rails of politics.
00:07:40.000 That's right, the three third rails.
00:07:42.000 And he did them all at once.
00:07:44.000 Our trade deals are awful. 1.00
00:07:46.000 Our wars are stupid. 1.00
00:07:48.000 And our borders are wide open. 1.00
00:07:50.000 Whoa.
00:07:52.000 One, two, three.
00:07:56.000 You see, when you run for president, you're supposed to do platitudes.
00:07:59.000 I believe America's best days are ahead.
00:08:02.000 As Ronald Reagan would say, freedom is no more than one generation away from extinction.
00:08:08.000 And our country has been through a lot, but I believe if we yearn to our better angels, we can overcome these divides.
00:08:17.000 And I disagree with President Obama and what he's doing to the economy.
00:08:22.000 And I think that behind our campaign, we can ignite a new American future.
00:08:29.000 He didn't do any of that stuff.
00:08:30.000 There are no consultants.
00:08:32.000 There is no poll testing stuff.
00:08:33.000 Trump, with his instinct, says, Yeah, this country's not being run well.
00:08:38.000 I'm a politician.
00:08:39.000 Let's lean in and let's fix it.
00:08:42.000 Play Cut 101.
00:08:43.000 We need somebody that literally will take this country and make it great again.
00:08:52.000 We can do that.
00:08:53.000 And I will tell you, I love my life.
00:08:59.000 I have a wonderful family.
00:09:02.000 They're saying, Dad, you're going to do something that's going to be so tough.
00:09:06.000 You know, all of my life, I've heard that a truly successful person, a really, really successful person, and even modestly successful, cannot run for public office.
00:09:19.000 Just can't happen.
00:09:20.000 And yet, that's the kind of mindset that you need to make this country great again.
00:09:27.000 Eight years ago, he looked around.
00:09:30.000 He's like, this is not going well.
00:09:33.000 And he is right.
00:09:34.000 Eight years ago, Donald Trump was not under federal indictment.
00:09:37.000 Donald Trump was not an impeached president.
00:09:40.000 Donald Trump had all the contracts with corporate America.
00:09:43.000 Donald Trump was the darling of the show.
00:09:47.000 Donald Trump was well accepted by Oprah.
00:09:50.000 Before he went down that escalator, he had a good life, an easy life, a simple life.
00:09:57.000 Eight years later, Donald Trump's comfort is gone.
00:10:01.000 He's under multiple indictments in the town, one in the town that he built, one by the federal government.
00:10:05.000 He's been a twice impeached president, spied on by the federal Bureau of Investigation.
00:10:10.000 Eight years ago, he decided to do something for you.
00:10:14.000 The forgotten man and woman of this country, the ordinary person.
00:10:17.000 And he's paid a big price for it.
00:10:20.000 But I think we're barely just touching on the significance of how everything changed eight years ago when Donald Trump went down that golden escalator.
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00:11:08.000 The most amazing thing is there is no plan.
00:11:11.000 There is no committee, no poll testing.
00:11:15.000 The discussion was all about Ted Cruz, Rubio, Rand Paul, Scott Walker.
00:11:20.000 This guy just comes down the escalator and blows it all up.
00:11:26.000 He challenged and eventually changed the entire Republican Party.
00:11:30.000 I could say that when I first got involved in conservative politics, you were not allowed to challenge free trade orthodoxy.
00:11:40.000 You could not question it. 0.99
00:11:42.000 It's a good thing that we have endless piles of plastic crap coming from China. 1.00
00:11:46.000 It's actually getting us richer. 0.99
00:11:48.000 We're actually getting richer.
00:11:51.000 You don't know it, but we're actually getting really rich.
00:11:54.000 And, oh, okay, go read some Austrian economics textbooks, of which I did.
00:11:59.000 It's a capital account surplus.
00:12:02.000 But then you drive through Ohio, you're like, well, why are these towns really poor and everyone's on opioids? 0.98
00:12:06.000 No, no, shut up. 0.96
00:12:07.000 Plastic is good for us. 0.99
00:12:10.000 Why is it a good thing that our homes are twice as big, filled with twice as much crap, but we have half as many people living there and we have less kids? 0.79
00:12:18.000 No, it's a good thing because you see, McKinsey has told us that we get richer the more textiles that we have coming from China. 0.94
00:12:26.000 We don't want those jobs anyway. 0.98
00:12:27.000 And those people should just go to learn to code.
00:12:30.000 We don't need a muscular class.
00:12:31.000 We don't need carpenters, welders.
00:12:34.000 We don't need any of that.
00:12:35.000 Just let the experts and the intellectuals.
00:12:38.000 And here's Trump, who's part of that elite class, and challenged the entire orthodoxy.
00:12:45.000 How rotten the Republican Party was on these issues.
00:12:50.000 Selling out the country to China, selling out our country with bad trade deals, letting whoever wants to come across the southern border. 1.00
00:12:58.000 The border was not a top issue for any Republican until Donald Trump ran for the presidency.
00:13:06.000 And they immediately called him racist, even though then he did much better in votes than Mitt Romney.
00:13:12.000 And of course, he was able to brand it better.
00:13:15.000 We're going to build a wall and Mexico is going to pay for it. 0.93
00:13:18.000 And the wall just got 10 feet taller.
00:13:21.000 The thought crime that he really paid a price for, according to Tucker Carlson, and I agree completely, is he questioned the war in Iraq.
00:13:34.000 He said there were no weapons of mass destruction.
00:13:37.000 We never should have invaded this country.
00:13:40.000 And people said, finally, somebody in the Republican Party is willing to say that George W. Bush and his entire cabal messed up.
00:13:51.000 He even said that Bush didn't keep America safe, and he blamed him for having loose immigration policies that led to 9-11.
00:13:59.000 So this is the additional point, though, as we remember what started eight years ago with him coming down the golden escalator.
00:14:07.000 As he launched an unexpected tomahawk missile at neoliberalism, he declared war on the Uniparty.
00:14:18.000 They then declared war on him.
00:14:20.000 And it didn't happen immediately because he wasn't taken seriously immediately.
00:14:23.000 Why was it not taken seriously?
00:14:25.000 Because the smart people and the shadow government thought they've seen this act before.
00:14:30.000 They're like, oh, yeah, we saw this with Ross Perot, who's talking about that sucking noise with the trade and jobs.
00:14:35.000 And we're used to this.
00:14:37.000 He'll end up running third party or something.
00:14:39.000 We're in control.
00:14:39.000 We're fine.
00:14:41.000 They never thought he would take over the Republican Party.
00:14:46.000 They had no idea how weak the Republican Party actually was.
00:14:50.000 There were no superdelegates in the Republican Party, unlike the Democrats at the time.
00:14:54.000 So there was no kind of elite philosopher king ruling class to be able to pick a candidate.
00:15:00.000 And Donald Trump was smart.
00:15:02.000 He spoke at a lot of Tea Party rallies.
00:15:04.000 He saw this kind of grassroots fury that was building up.
00:15:07.000 And the Tea Party movement by 2015, when he announced, had kind of largely gone away.
00:15:12.000 So he said, ooh, I'm going to get right back into that energy.
00:15:16.000 And he smashed the golden calves of our time.
00:15:19.000 The straw men that we just kept on repeating, that we held up as orthodoxy.
00:15:23.000 Plastic makes us wealthier.
00:15:25.000 It's a good thing that people are on opioids.
00:15:29.000 And he went right after them.
00:15:31.000 And he said, that is a lie.
00:15:33.000 One of the criticisms that people level against Donald Trump is how he has divided America, how he's this divisive guy.
00:15:44.000 Donald Trump did not divide America.
00:15:47.000 He simply observed the hidden fault lines that were already there.
00:15:55.000 He did not divide America.
00:15:57.000 He simply exposed the divide.
00:16:01.000 And then he mentioned it.
00:16:02.000 He ripped the veil off and said, your plutocrats are getting rich while you get poor.
00:16:09.000 We're invading countries while we're getting invaded. 1.00
00:16:12.000 And this is dumb. 1.00
00:16:14.000 And that was his great crime. 1.00
00:16:16.000 And he's paying the price for it even today.
00:16:19.000 But it started eight years ago.
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00:17:26.000 I remember where I was eight years ago.
00:17:28.000 We were actually hosting our Young Women's Leadership Summit.
00:17:31.000 That's right.
00:17:32.000 Our first ever Young Women's Leadership Summit.
00:17:36.000 Eight years ago, we had like 41 attendees.
00:17:40.000 And it was received kind of as a joke.
00:17:44.000 Who is this guy?
00:17:45.000 What does he think he's doing?
00:17:48.000 You see, what Donald Trump also did is he changed the body politic of the GOP.
00:17:56.000 East Palestine, Ohio, all of a sudden became a Republican stronghold.
00:18:02.000 The muscular class had a voice.
00:18:03.000 Democrats used to own that muscular class.
00:18:06.000 And he spoke in a way that they could resonate and understand, especially on the issues that there was more bipartisanship than ever before.
00:18:16.000 That there was agreement that eroding the middle class was a good thing, as it was vanishing. 0.70
00:18:25.000 Remember, Ross Perot tried this.
00:18:27.000 It's nothing new to have.
00:18:28.000 Pap Buchanan tried this.
00:18:30.000 But Donald Trump was unique.
00:18:32.000 He was built for a perfect time, obviously with ubiquitous name ID, an ability to command attention.
00:18:40.000 And he took everybody by surprise.
00:18:44.000 Everybody.
00:18:45.000 Because the more they platformed him, they used to cover MAGA rallies.
00:18:49.000 They used to have him in interviews.
00:18:51.000 His support grew and grew and grew. 0.97
00:18:54.000 And they did not eventually end up attacking him because he's a liar. 0.98
00:18:59.000 All politicians lie.
00:19:02.000 No, they attacked him because he was a truth teller and he told the truth in a way that was not pre-approved.
00:19:09.000 He didn't go through the proper committee process of the Republican Party to say, hell, I have five things I'd like to say.
00:19:18.000 What do you guys think?
00:19:19.000 That's what Jeb Bush would do.
00:19:21.000 Water this down a little bit and use an abstraction here and do that.
00:19:25.000 Oh, yes.
00:19:26.000 Yes, sir.
00:19:28.000 Donald Trump was like, eh, I'm big enough.
00:19:31.000 I don't need to run up by anybody.
00:19:33.000 And they underestimated him and they underestimated him.
00:19:37.000 And so much what you're seeing now, the document case with Donald Trump, is revenge-driven.
00:19:44.000 Truth is a threat to tyrants.
00:19:48.000 And yes, of course, Donald Trump did it in a showmanship way with a little bit of bloviation and, you know, just let's say the unique Trump spirit.
00:19:59.000 But what got down to the essence of it is when he went on media show after media show and he said things you were not allowed to say.
00:20:09.000 Not as a Republican candidate.
00:20:12.000 Play cut 100.
00:20:14.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I am officially running for president of the United States and we are going to make our country great again.
00:20:29.000 National revival, making it great again, has a not so subtle subtext.
00:20:39.000 It means it was not as great as it could be at the moment.
00:20:42.000 You were not allowed to say that.
00:20:43.000 You see, you're only allowed to run for the president and say everything is wonderful.
00:20:47.000 Everything is fine.
00:20:48.000 Just don't ask why eight out of the 10 wealthiest counties in America are around Washington, D.C., don't ask that.
00:20:55.000 Don't ask the fact that the middle class is just vanishing and people are taking on consumer debt at record levels.
00:21:02.000 Can't ask that.
00:21:03.000 You can't ask the question of why is it a good thing that we're allowing hundreds of thousands of Chinese nationals to go into our schools.
00:21:11.000 Can't ask that.
00:21:12.000 And he changed conservative media.
00:21:14.000 He changed everything.
00:21:15.000 And you might hate Donald Trump in this audience.
00:21:17.000 You might bitterly, some of you do.
00:21:19.000 I'm getting your emails.
00:21:20.000 You have to be honest, though.
00:21:22.000 Eight years ago to this day, the whole ballgame was altered permanently.
00:21:27.000 Before 2015, the cable news media actually sometimes struggled to come up with new stories to cover.
00:21:32.000 Remember the Natalie Holloway case?
00:21:35.000 Cable news would stretch these stories out forever.
00:21:38.000 Every day on CNN for six years just became a Donald Trump obsession commercial.
00:21:45.000 Trump broke MSNBC.
00:21:48.000 You started getting cry-ons like, quote, Trump melts down in angry response to reports he ignored virus warnings.
00:21:54.000 Or quote, Trump uses task force briefing to try and rewrite history.
00:21:57.000 Or quote, angry Trump uses propaganda video.
00:22:01.000 They still can't shut up about him, even if he's under indictment and he's no longer president.
00:22:08.000 It changed right-wing media too.
00:22:10.000 Eight years ago, I think that Fox News' influence was probably at its peak as an institution eight years ago.
00:22:19.000 And we're going to talk about Fox in a second here because there's some very interesting developments with Tucker Carlson that I don't think people are covering enough.
00:22:26.000 After Donald Trump, Megan Kelly left Fox, Bill O'Reilly left Fox, Greta Van Sustrin left Fox, and then Tucker Carlson was able to explain and communicate to the Trump voter better than anybody else.
00:22:40.000 And now Tucker is gone.
00:22:43.000 Right-wing media changed forever.
00:22:45.000 I mean, how many people in conservative media were once considered to be respectable intellectuals, very popular, and they really don't have anything of a platform anymore?
00:22:56.000 I think of Jonah Goldberg, who I think wrote a great book, Liberal Fascism, really smart guy.
00:23:01.000 He's no longer welcome in conservative circles.
00:23:04.000 He hates Donald Trump so much, he's allowed it to pathologically blur his vision from actually making astute commentary. 0.96
00:23:11.000 And he's not dumb. 0.97
00:23:14.000 Michael Medved, sweet guy, but basically taken off radio because of his Trump hatred. 0.82
00:23:21.000 Ratings went down big time.
00:23:23.000 And there's example after example after example.
00:23:28.000 And then, of course, Donald Trump challenged and in one version of events, just one chapter of the events, defeated the administrative state.
00:23:41.000 And that's where we are now.
00:23:44.000 What started eight years ago is still ongoing.
00:23:48.000 And what is exciting, but also unnerving, is we have no idea how this story ends.
00:23:58.000 We are not looking back at eight years ago and saying, well, that was a good ride.
00:24:02.000 No, you are in the middle of the story.
00:24:06.000 I am simply mentioning the metaphorical political Lexington and Concord shot heard around the world moment that started eight years ago today.
00:24:13.000 And you are living right through the heaviest season of fighting of the people versus the shadow government.
00:24:23.000 They hate Donald Trump also because he was able to give a voice, activism, and engagement.
00:24:29.000 The Republican Party does not want anything to do with Donald Trump because of exactly what just happened in North Dakota.
00:24:35.000 Someone who supported Rana for RNC chair has been removed.
00:24:39.000 He activated the American grassroots in a representative way that nobody else has.
00:24:46.000 Two impeachments, two indictments, probably two more coming, two presidents later.
00:24:52.000 And we're at this again.
00:24:53.000 This story is continuing and it is unfolding.
00:24:58.000 But it's important sometimes to take pause, even if you're in the middle of an extremely tumultuous moment, historic moment, confusing moment, where you can't quite get your bearings and your compass is turning as if you're in the Bermuda triangle.
00:25:16.000 Sometimes it's helpful to stop and be still and say, wow, what have we lived through?
00:25:25.000 And why is this continuing?
00:25:27.000 They are not going after Donald Trump because he's rude or because he's insensitive or enough.
00:25:37.000 No, he did something successfully eight years ago that you're not supposed to do.
00:25:45.000 And at first, they ignored him.
00:25:51.000 Then they mocked him.
00:25:54.000 Then they fought him.
00:25:57.000 And then he won.
00:26:00.000 And they will never let that go.
00:26:04.000 You see, the aims and the ambitions of the permanent DC class, the people that live in those eight wealthiest counties around Washington, D.C., despite producing nothing.
00:26:15.000 They don't make cars.
00:26:17.000 They don't make phones.
00:26:19.000 They launder your $6 trillion of taxpayer money, take slice off the top in inflated defense contracts and sweetheart government deals through lobbyists and communication deals, communication consultant deals, so that they can have hyper-inflated income while you get poor.
00:26:39.000 For them, this is a threat to their business model.
00:26:42.000 For Donald Trump to say that I'm going to go Schedule F and burn it all to the ground, metaphorically go Dresden on the administrative state, is making them say we are not playing games anymore.
00:26:55.000 Go send Jack Smith, who's willing to indict a ham sandwich.
00:26:58.000 Go and go full out.
00:27:02.000 And eight years ago, the crime began.
00:27:05.000 It's not a crime that you might think.
00:27:08.000 No, it's a crime against the regime, a crime against the Uniparty for repeatedly, and some people would say obnoxiously, but publicly, calling out the fraud, the deception, the plunder, the stealing, and the deceit of 30 years of Republicans and Democrats selling out America for their own benefit. 0.78
00:27:30.000 And that is something you are not allowed to do.
00:27:35.000 So, Tucker is in an interesting spot right now.
00:27:40.000 I just want to say, I was a little skeptical, publicly and privately.
00:27:44.000 Like, is this Twitter video thing really going to work?
00:27:46.000 It's been a great idea for him.
00:27:48.000 He has, he's moving the Overton window.
00:27:51.000 His audience feels connected to him.
00:27:52.000 And Fox is in a tough place right now.
00:27:55.000 Fox's ratings are down.
00:27:59.000 And they sent Tucker Carlson, Fox News did, a cease and desist letter saying, hey, stop doing this Twitter show thing.
00:28:09.000 And Tucker keeps on doing his Twitter show.
00:28:12.000 In fact, the latest video that Tucker made was basically a pulsating middle finger to Fox News.
00:28:24.000 It was as graphic as one can get to, hey, buddy, sue me.
00:28:30.000 That's effectively what Tucker did.
00:28:32.000 You say, why?
00:28:32.000 Well, if you watch the video, he said, quote, well, the women who run Fox News got really upset.
00:28:37.000 It was all about this Chiron of wannabe dictator Biden, which, by the way, the person who made the Chiron has since resigned.
00:28:45.000 Good for the guy who did it because it's exactly right.
00:28:48.000 And Tucker, in only a way that Tucker can, he's so talented.
00:28:51.000 He's just an infinitely better writer than I will ever be when he writes these scripts.
00:28:56.000 And he says he's so true.
00:28:57.000 It says, why do people get so fired up that the Chiron said, wannabe dictator? 0.99
00:29:01.000 It's because not because it was false.
00:29:03.000 It's because it was true. 0.56
00:29:04.000 Same thing with Trump ties together, right?
00:29:05.000 So, but there's this ongoing drama, obviously, between Tucker and Fox News.
00:29:10.000 And the most important question, of which we do not know the answer, is, will Fox News sue Tucker Carlson?
00:29:17.000 That is the question.
00:29:19.000 Will Fox News sue Tucker Carlson and seek an injunction to muzzle him?
00:29:25.000 That's why my public advice and private advice is Tucker Carlson should run for mayor of Bryant Pond, Maine or something.
00:29:35.000 And therefore, it's politically protected speech under the First Amendment, regardless.
00:29:40.000 Now, maybe to run for something else, but I'll leave you guys for speculation on that.
00:29:47.000 But the point is that if he wants liberated speech to go in front of a judge and say, I'm a political candidate, a private corporation can't, that's a complaint he can win.
00:29:55.000 But will Fox News do that?
00:29:59.000 Will Fox News give the green light to their legal division to say that Tucker Carlson is in breach of contract?
00:30:05.000 He's causing material harm to the company.
00:30:07.000 And we require an injunction or a sea.
00:30:13.000 It's even beyond a season dissist.
00:30:14.000 An injunction would be a court order to stop doing these Twitter videos.
00:30:20.000 A judge, you know, you could appeal that.
00:30:22.000 Now, this is really important.
00:30:24.000 Tucker Carlson is still drawing a salary from Fox News.
00:30:27.000 He's not getting paid from Twitter, which is an important piece of information.
00:30:31.000 So he's not monetizing it.
00:30:34.000 There's no deal.
00:30:34.000 There's no advertising.
00:30:36.000 And in his deal, it says you're allowed to use your social media.
00:30:39.000 So there is some flex in these joints that could be litigated.
00:30:45.000 But does Fox News really want to get into active litigation with Tucker Carlson?
00:30:51.000 Even if they get an injunction, which would silence Tucker Carlson, 30 to 60 days later, Tucker Carlson will respond with a countersuit likely and a salvo of discovery requests.
00:31:02.000 I want to see the emails.
00:31:04.000 I want to see the conversation.
00:31:06.000 I want to know why my show was taken off air.
00:31:08.000 And then that stuff would then be made public.
00:31:12.000 So what he has done is he has really tried to force the hand of Fox News.
00:31:20.000 And it's unclear how Fox News will respond.
00:31:23.000 So far, Fox News has responded with more force, more force, more force.
00:31:27.000 At every corner, every turn, Fox News is going to the next level of force, take the show off air, try to stifle you with cease and desist.
00:31:35.000 And now we are at a play, at a moment where if Fox decides to play the ultimate hardball and sues Tucker Carlson, I don't think that will go well for them.
00:31:46.000 Ratings are down.
00:31:48.000 Discovery would not go well for them.
00:31:49.000 So do they just kind of let Tucker continue to post on Twitter at the same time of his old show and disenfranchise their own network?
00:31:58.000 Tucker has forced the hand.
00:32:00.000 And it looks like Tucker is willing to sacrifice his salary and any sort of legal comfort he has because a pretty vicious lawsuit could be coming his way, but one that I think he would ultimately win and the most important, which is the court of public opinion.
00:32:19.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:32:20.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:32:23.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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