00:01:05.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:02.000He stays anonymous so that the left doesn't screw with him and that he's able to continue to operate the website freely.
00:02:09.000To give you an idea, Citizen Free Press had 169 million page views in the month of July.
00:02:16.000That is more than Politico, The Wall Street Journal, Huffington Post, NBC News, TMZ, CBS News, Daily Beast, ABC News, and more.
00:02:25.000And the man behind Citizen Free Press, who's just called Kane, he lives in Bloomington, Indiana, and will remain anonymous for many reasons, of which I fully support, joins us right now.
00:02:36.000Citizen Kane, who runs Citizen Free Press.
00:06:25.000You know, all the anecdotes that you've heard about Trump fence sitters, people who are leaning more towards DeSantis, perhaps, or whatever.
00:06:34.000These people are fired up, pissed off, and they're backing Trump much in a much stronger way than they were before.
00:08:02.000And you could look at the comments, they are amazing.
00:08:04.000So, really quick, Kane, let me ask you, what happened to Drudge?
00:08:08.000I mean, it's been a great thing for your business, obviously, for you to fill the void, but a lot of people are wondering what the heck happened to my Drudge report.
00:09:20.000And the very next day, like the fourth story in Drudge's stack at the top was from this journalist's website.
00:09:26.000So it's an example of, you know, knowing that Drudge is at least still in charge of posting the top, you know, the links on the top half of his site every day.
00:09:36.000As for what happened to him, that's, you know, because it can't just be the switch of him getting pissed off about a nickname that made fun of him because he's embraced a lot of these leftist things.
00:09:48.000Drudge used to be incredibly pro-life, for example.
00:09:51.000And now he promotes, yeah, and now he promotes pro-choice.
00:09:55.000Let me also say this: Drudge also used to be, they used to post links from scattered websites all across the website internet.
00:10:03.000It was fringe sites, it was blogs, and now it's just so corporate.
00:10:06.000Like everything links to Politico or Washington Post.
00:10:10.000I mean, and look, I'm highly suspicious of one thing: one time there was a Washington Post article written about us.
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00:12:02.000So, Kane, can you just talk about the general dissemination of information?
00:12:06.000I find it remarkable the web traffic you're getting, despite the censorship.
00:12:10.000Do you think that the people are now finding ways to circumvent the gatekeepers to almost work around them?
00:12:17.000What are your thoughts on this as we try to continue to get information out as the gatekeepers don't want us to get to the truth?
00:12:23.000Without a doubt, and we posted a story in the last 24 hours about a new midterm policy from Twitter to keep quote-unquote misinformation off the site.
00:12:34.000We've got 95% of the media aligned against us.
00:12:54.000You know, guys like you and this show are probably a huge part of what saves us.
00:13:00.000You're able to spend hours a day publicizing this stuff, bringing attention to it.
00:13:06.000You've got fantastic lawyers like Harmi who are willing to fight for the First Amendment that are part of, you know, sort of part of the team that you've built.
00:13:16.000It's brought, you know, I hadn't really thought about it, but it's sort of like you're the inspector general of the media and other sources like you.
00:17:55.000They've been through multiple ups and downs and economic markets, like you can imagine, just like the ones we're seeing today.
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00:19:48.000And a lot of people share those sentiments.
00:19:51.000My take is a little more precise or slightly different than what you just expressed.
00:19:57.000I think what's happened, the root of what's happened, is a change in culture at the Bureau that began under Director Mueller, Bob Mueller.
00:20:06.000And a lot of these bad actors is the term you just used, have been removed.
00:20:13.000The bad actors, you can name them all, McCabe and Comey, et cetera, from before, and even more recently with the Jimness case and other, they keep getting fired.
00:20:36.000And my contention is they're not looking at the underlying program problem, excuse me, the cultural change that took place beginning under Robert Mueller's leadership.
00:20:48.000Yeah, and I will say, though, Annie McCabe is still getting his pension, right?
00:20:52.000And that even though they might be fired, I think these people should be imprisoned for what they did.
00:20:57.000So talk about what the Bureau used to be, because you argue in your book, it actually used to be something that had a commitment to the Constitution and how it, and then it fell from there.
00:21:08.000Explain more how and why the Bureau slipped from a trustworthy agency to one now that has no faith, the American people has no faith in.
00:21:17.000Okay, well, it is simply this: uniquely in the United States of America, and it's always been a good thing, our national security agency, domestic security, domestic intelligence agency, was a law enforcement agency.
00:21:31.000The FBI, the FBI, always had been fundamentally a law enforcement agency.
00:21:37.000And in a law enforcement agency, the individuals, the agents, you work every day towards the day when you're going to have to stand up in court or before a judge and raise your right hand and swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
00:21:55.000That's the essence of a law enforcement agency.
00:21:58.000An intelligence agency deals in deception, deceit, and they and they give estimates, they call them estimates.
00:22:30.000President George W. Bush wanted to see him.
00:22:33.000He went to Camp David with the Bureau's report.
00:22:36.000And Charlie, in three and a half days, and this is quite an accomplishment, the FBI investigation had identified all 19 hijackers, their associates, their money trail, their autos, their credit cards, their connections back to al-Qaeda, everything in three and a half days.
00:22:53.000The Bureau did what it does best: investigate.
00:22:57.000And Robert Mueller presented that report to George Bush with the rest of his security counsel around him in Camp David that Saturday morning.
00:23:08.000And when he was done, and he expected praise and thanks.
00:23:11.000And by the way, he's told us this, he's told me this on several occasions.
00:23:15.000And George W. Bush just turned to him and said, I don't care about that.
00:23:20.000I want to know how you're going to prevent the next one.
00:23:24.000And later that morning, George Tennant, then the director of the CIA, gave his plan of action going forward.
00:23:32.000George W. Bush, when he was done hearing that, turned to Mueller and said, That's what I'd like to hear.
00:23:41.000So, for reasons that seemed justified at the time, he set out, he said this, to change the FBI into an intelligence agency.
00:23:52.000And a lot of bad things flowed from that.
00:23:56.000So, changing it from a law enforcement agency to an intelligence agency.
00:24:01.000Now, some people would say the FBI, though, in the 70s and 80s was still doing that kind of intelligence.
00:24:07.000I don't want to go too deep into that, but can you talk about just a little bit how the 1980 or 1990 FBI was probably a lot better than what it is today?
00:24:41.000So he had Mueller make the cultural change.
00:24:43.000And then after Mueller, you had the poor leadership of James Comey, which just made matters worse.
00:24:52.000So earlier this week, I mean, as you well know, on Monday, Mar-a-Lago was raided by the FBI, an extraordinary intervention on behalf of the Bureau.
00:25:40.000But being legal doesn't make something necessarily right.
00:25:44.000There's a lot of things that could have been done short of searching, raiding the home of a former president and potentially a presidential candidate.
00:26:13.000So let me ask you: in the rank and file of the Bureau, are there rumblings of people that are very uncomfortable with the direction that it's heading?
00:26:21.000I can't imagine that every single FBI special agent is comfortable with the rating of James O'Keefe's apartment or the rating of Rudy Giuliani's apartment or the raiding of Mar-a-Lago.
00:26:33.000I mean, what are you hearing rank and file by some of the people that are not in the suits but in the boots of the FBI?
00:26:41.000No, there's definitely, I mean, and I heard, and I'm in contact with several individuals who are very upset about this.
00:26:49.000The other thing, Charlie, that the culture of the FBI, it was somewhat a collegial organization.
00:26:54.000I mean, people who, once you were an agent, you could speak to someone who was an assistant director or an agent in charge, and you would have frank discussions.
00:27:02.000And sometimes things happened in the past, and a supervisor or an SAC would say to the director, you know, maybe we shouldn't go down this road.
00:27:33.000We have a national law enforcement agency that is more like an intelligence service than a law enforcement service.
00:27:39.000I believe a vast majority of Americans have lost total and complete faith.
00:27:43.000What is the roadmap towards a restoration, or is it just time to dismantle it?
00:27:47.000No, I don't think it should be dismantled.
00:27:49.000I think one of the strengths in the past of the FBI, a lot of people have proposed that, and I totally disagree with that.
00:27:56.000A blessing, a blessing for our country was, unlike other Western democracies and certainly other countries around the world, is our domestic intelligence service was and is a law enforcement agency.
00:28:11.000So the FBI had to work within certain parameters of the law to do things.
00:28:18.000What's happened now with the intelligence side being dominant and the leadership all coming up on that intelligence side of things, I fear what we may have now, and that's why I use the subtitle of my book.
00:28:30.000We may now have a domestic intelligence service with police powers.
00:28:38.000And that has to be flipped and turned around.
00:28:41.000And to change culture in any organization, and there's been books written just about this, you have to do a lot of things, big and small, and you have to do them consistently.
00:28:51.000But the first thing you have to do is recognize the problem.
00:28:55.000And as long as Ray and others hang their hat on, well, we're getting rid of the bad apples, they're not recognizing the fundamental underlying problem.
00:29:04.000Well, if I may be share my opinion, they are the problem, okay?
00:29:08.000I mean, Ray and all them are part of the culture that is continuing in this.
00:29:12.000So I want to reiterate the book again for our audience.
00:30:08.000Well, again, thank you, Thomas, for joining us.
00:30:10.000I just want to encourage people to check out the book.
00:30:12.000We need more people that served in the Bureau and did a good job going after terrorists and gun smugglers and child sex traffickers and narco-criminals to speak out.
00:30:36.000The Wall Street Journal has obtained documents that have not yet been public about the raid on Mar-a-Lago.
00:30:43.000And so we're going to get into this right now.
00:30:45.000So the new narrative is that Donald Trump had nuclear codes, and that's why they raided him.
00:30:53.000It's a brilliant PR tactic, by the way, to try to get people to think it's necessary to go invade and occupy a political dissident's home.
00:31:00.000By the way, if Donald Trump had nuclear codes, why didn't the FBI visit him, I don't know, sooner and be like, hey, you got to bring him back?
00:31:59.000So breaking news shows that 20 boxes of items, binders of photos, a handwritten note, an executive grant of clemency for Mr. Trump's ally, Roger Stone.
00:32:09.000I know what you're all wondering, which is, did the FBI take Melania Trump's dresses?
00:32:19.000FBI searched Trump's home to look for nuclear documents and other items.
00:32:22.000Sources say this is right after, by the way, Merrick Garland comes out and says, I'm going to defend the integrity of the FBI.
00:32:29.000And immediately they leak that it's all about nuclear codes.
00:32:33.000Again, we are calling this entire thing Operation Cross-Dresser Hurricane in the tradition of the Federal Bureau.
00:32:39.000They might as well follow J. Edgar Hoover's tradition of cross-dressing.
00:32:44.000The list includes references to one set of documents marked as various classified TSSCI documents, an abbreviation for top-secret sensitive compartmented information.
00:32:54.000It also says agents collected four sets of top-secret documents, three sets of secret documents, and three sets of confidential documents.
00:33:00.000The list didn't provide any more detail.
00:33:02.000Trump's lawyers argue the former president used the authority to declassify the material before he left office.
00:33:06.000While a president has the power to declassify documents, there are federal regulations that lay out a process to do so.
00:33:14.000We now raid people's homes, former presidents' homes.
00:33:17.000We now raid sacred political institutions, as Mar-a-Lago, institution is not the right word, but let's just say places for paperwork crimes.
00:34:02.000You do know that former president still gets a security clearance.
00:34:04.000The former president and his team don't have the affidavit.
00:34:07.000The affidavit is everything, by the way, which would provide more detail about the FBI's investigation, according to people familiar with the process.
00:34:14.000His lawyers have asked for a more specific account of what was removed from Mar-a-Lago.
00:34:21.000Mr. Trump said on social media, his representatives have been cooperating fully, and the government could have whatever they wanted if they wanted it, if we had it.
00:35:03.000In order to get a raid authorization by a judge, the FBI just can't go decide to raid somebody.
00:35:08.000They have to go to a judge, but it's judge shopping and they know what they're doing.
00:35:11.000They have to explain to the judge why a subpoena would not suffice.
00:35:16.000Why a document request for a subpoena would not suffice, of which there is imminent harm to the population, an imminent crime being committed, an act of crime being committed, or evidence being destroyed.
00:35:28.000What evidence could you show that Magistrate Judge Reinhold and the DOJ would agree that you have to go guns drawn for 270 man hours to go into a president's home to do that?
00:35:43.000According to Pam Bondi, the warrant was signed on Friday.
00:35:46.000So why wait until Monday if nuclear codes are a threat to the nation?
00:35:53.000Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:35:54.000Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.