The Charlie Kirk Show - February 11, 2021


A Bombshell Maricopa County, AZ Audit Update with Rep. Paul Gosar


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As the impeachment fight rages, I sit down with Congressman Paul Gosar from Arizona to provide an update of what s happening in Maricopa County, and he shares some information around some irregularities and problems with voting in Arizona that I have not heard before.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, as the impeachment fight rages, I sit down with Congressman Paul Gosar from Arizona.
00:00:05.000 He has an update of what's happening in Maricopa County, and he shares some information around some irregularities and problems with voting in Arizona that I have not heard before.
00:00:15.000 I asked him pointed questions, and he provided factual evidence about error rates happening in Arizona, forensic audits, who's getting in the way of it, the Board of Supervisors, and what is needed to, in his own words, audit the vote.
00:00:28.000 I think you'll learn a lot in this episode as I go about this issue in a way that is fact-first, asking questions, and I think you will really enjoy some of the things that we discussed.
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00:03:08.000 Hey, everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show here with a true patriot, someone who loves his country and fights every single day in Washington, D.C. Metaphorically fights, of course, because we can't say that anymore, right, Congress?
00:03:20.000 Exactly right.
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00:03:26.000 Welcome to the program.
00:03:27.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:03:28.000 So what on earth is going on in Arizona?
00:03:31.000 Well, where do you want to start?
00:03:33.000 Well, there's a lot of people talking about this Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, a guy named Paul Boyer, some votes.
00:03:42.000 There's a lot of confusion going around what's happening in this state right now.
00:03:46.000 Well, we've got to go back to the election in November.
00:03:49.000 There were some problems, to say the least.
00:03:53.000 And we have to go back to a hand count that showed a 3% error rate.
00:03:58.000 Really?
00:03:58.000 A 3% error rate in Maricopa County is over 90,000 ballots.
00:04:03.000 The president lost by a little over 10,000.
00:04:07.000 So then they went to a bigger audit, 2,500, and they stopped midway.
00:04:16.000 Wow.
00:04:17.000 We had heard there was a 17% error rate.
00:04:20.000 We don't know that.
00:04:21.000 But all of a sudden they locked it down.
00:04:23.000 Yeah.
00:04:24.000 So trying to get a forensic audit where you compare the ballots to the machine.
00:04:29.000 So you visually actually get to account for those.
00:04:33.000 There's plenty of problems.
00:04:35.000 There's an HBO movie called Kill Chain.
00:04:40.000 And if you haven't seen it, it's worth $11 on HBO.
00:04:43.000 Amazing.
00:04:43.000 I never thought you'd be hawking an HBO.
00:04:46.000 But I mean, it's actually the Democrats actually look at certain types of software and voting machines, and they actually go through some of its problems.
00:04:56.000 And it shows you exactly what's happening in November.
00:05:01.000 So all we want to make sure is that the results are forensically looked at to make sure that the ballots were counted appropriately.
00:05:09.000 Who could possibly be against that?
00:05:11.000 I have no idea, but it seems like the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors are because they didn't want to do an audit.
00:05:19.000 The state senate jumped in with subpoenas.
00:05:21.000 They fought them.
00:05:23.000 They went to federal district court.
00:05:25.000 The court judge basically said that the legislature has jurisdiction, so either make an agreement with them or you're not going to like what I have my ruling.
00:05:34.000 And so now what we're at is trying to figure out who's going to do this type of audit.
00:05:42.000 And we need independent people that represent the people, be able to see that there's clarity.
00:05:49.000 And then they rebuked on that.
00:05:54.000 And now what's happening is you've got Republicans going with Democrats saying we're not going to enforce contempt.
00:06:02.000 So what did Paul Boyer vote for?
00:06:05.000 Who is this guy?
00:06:06.000 Well, he's a state legislator who did not want to vote for contempt of the supervisors.
00:06:15.000 I don't know what the deal is with the supervisors, but it seems like we could take down the error in this state and in this country by putting out the factual evidence of the ballots.
00:06:27.000 I would think so, right?
00:06:29.000 It's either one way or the other.
00:06:30.000 There's no middle ground.
00:06:33.000 So from that standpoint, I would think that would be very helpful.
00:06:37.000 I think that the Maricopa County supervisors have agreed on an independent group that's certified.
00:06:44.000 But once again, I think that we need some people that looked at the results, who have expertise in those areas, to be able to also join that audit team.
00:06:55.000 So the question many people have is, well, what are they hiding?
00:06:58.000 Why is this not transparent?
00:06:59.000 Why don't they want to get the evidence out here so we could just end this discussion?
00:07:03.000 If there was no shenanigans, then show us and the conversation will end.
00:07:07.000 Is that right?
00:07:08.000 That's exactly right.
00:07:09.000 Transparency is everything.
00:07:11.000 And if the electorate has lost its faith in making sure that their ballot counts to the person that they vote for, we're never going to have a fair election again.
00:07:20.000 We're a banana republic.
00:07:22.000 And so a lot of grassroots activists are losing faith in our system.
00:07:26.000 They're saying our vote does not matter.
00:07:28.000 And the way I'm answering is, look, there's a lot of evidence to show that, but we need more evidence to really be able to come to that conclusion.
00:07:37.000 We're in this weird mushy middle area, aren't we, Congressman, where we have a lot of reason to believe this stuff was happening, but we got to now get over that next kind of evidence pump.
00:07:48.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:07:49.000 Good process builds good policy, builds good politics.
00:07:52.000 And it's the same with voting.
00:07:54.000 Good process, good results, gives transparency.
00:07:58.000 So this is happening right now in Arizona.
00:08:00.000 So what's the path forward right now then?
00:08:03.000 Well, I think it's to try to figure out what is an agreement between the state legislature and the Maricopa Board of Supervisors.
00:08:14.000 I think people should let the supervisors know that the legislature has a final say.
00:08:21.000 And like you said.
00:08:23.000 What are you hiding?
00:08:26.000 Why would you worry about that?
00:08:27.000 If your case is rock solid, then just go forward and give us everything, and we'll move on, and we'll admit it, or whatever.
00:08:33.000 There's nothing to admit, we'll acknowledge it.
00:08:34.000 That's a better way to say it.
00:08:35.000 Absolutely.
00:08:36.000 But there's too many things lined up here that create that innuendo.
00:08:41.000 3% error rate.
00:08:42.000 Discretion.
00:08:42.000 Yeah.
00:08:42.000 3% error rates.
00:08:44.000 It's supposedly a 17% error rate.
00:08:46.000 Then stopping and locking down.
00:08:48.000 Then filing lawsuits.
00:08:50.000 Something doesn't jive here.
00:08:53.000 So the 3% error rate, was that in a hand recount?
00:08:57.000 Yep.
00:08:57.000 It was on 100 random duplicate ballots.
00:09:00.000 100.
00:09:00.000 100.
00:09:01.000 So three of them.
00:09:02.000 No, two.
00:09:03.000 This is what's interesting.
00:09:05.000 There's two.
00:09:06.000 How is this?
00:09:07.000 Both ballots were for Donald Trump.
00:09:10.000 But one took the ballot, took the Donald Trump, and gave it to you by Joe Biden, which is a 2% error.
00:09:16.000 The other one was a Donald Trump vote, but they didn't count it.
00:09:19.000 Wow.
00:09:20.000 So a 3% error rate.
00:09:21.000 So this was a random sampling done by whom in what county?
00:09:24.000 This is the Maricopa County recorder.
00:09:27.000 So they did a random 100-ballot sampling.
00:09:30.000 Yep.
00:09:30.000 Who told them to do this or is this done internally?
00:09:31.000 Well, this was done on behalf of Kelly Ward and the Republican Party.
00:09:36.000 But through a lawsuit or just kind of like, hey, we're going to do this.
00:09:40.000 There were lawsuits filed.
00:09:41.000 And so they tried to do this to try to put things to rest.
00:09:45.000 So they thought this would help their case.
00:09:47.000 Yep.
00:09:48.000 But in reality, if you extrapolate 3%, then you're at a much bigger scale than anything I think people realize.
00:09:56.000 Absolutely.
00:09:56.000 And that's why they went to the 2,500 ballot aspects to say, okay, we're going to do it.
00:10:00.000 Do we have the data from 2,500?
00:10:01.000 We don't, because they stopped midway and would not publish it.
00:10:05.000 They locked them up.
00:10:06.000 So let me make sure I understand this.
00:10:08.000 When was the 100-vote recount by hand?
00:10:11.000 That was November, December?
00:10:12.000 No, it was, I want to say, late November.
00:10:15.000 Okay.
00:10:16.000 Yeah, something like that.
00:10:17.000 So that's when the 3% error rate came out.
00:10:19.000 Two of the ballots were wrongly counted to Biden when it should have been for Trump.
00:10:24.000 Well, one was.
00:10:26.000 One took it from Trump and gave it to Biden.
00:10:28.000 Got it.
00:10:28.000 Okay.
00:10:29.000 And then the other one just didn't count the Trump vote.
00:10:31.000 That gives you 2% on the first ballot, 1% on another.
00:10:34.000 Well, that's still extraordinary if you scale it.
00:10:37.000 Well, and that kind of shows you the algorithm at background that had been alleged.
00:10:42.000 You know, that there was movement of pieces of data from one to another.
00:10:49.000 Yes.
00:10:49.000 And then deleting all the errors.
00:10:51.000 Which we have suspicion of.
00:10:52.000 Yep.
00:10:52.000 And I can't say that we have proof of that, but we have suspicion of that.
00:10:56.000 We have suspicion, but we have some pretty good evidence.
00:10:58.000 You see Texas decertifying a certain type of machine three different times, saying it can't conclusively come to a fair ballot.
00:11:06.000 You see North Carolina does their RFP.
00:11:10.000 When they get to the second stage, they say, who are your foreign investors?
00:11:13.000 Who are the big investors in your company?
00:11:14.000 And they pull that RFP.
00:11:16.000 You have a Senate subcommittee on Homeland Security for Election Security in 2019 that basically says these machines are rot with problems.
00:11:24.000 And then I brought up the kill chain.
00:11:27.000 Because I'm going to watch it.
00:11:29.000 It's worth the 12 bucks.
00:11:31.000 It's worth the 12 bucks.
00:11:33.000 So then they do the 100 votes to appease or to try to calm people down.
00:11:37.000 That's the opposite effect.
00:11:39.000 So the Maricopa County recorders, is that right?
00:11:41.000 That's my understanding, yes.
00:11:42.000 Then said we'll do 2,500 to just say maybe we scale it.
00:11:46.000 And they haven't released those results.
00:11:48.000 No.
00:11:48.000 So you have suspicion to believe that there could be anywhere between a 1% to 2% error rate in the entire county of Maricopa County.
00:11:57.000 It could be bigger than that.
00:12:00.000 That's pretty extraordinary.
00:12:01.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:12:03.000 So, I mean, when you look at the scale of the victory of Joe Biden over Donald Trump, which is a little over 10,000 ballots.
00:12:10.000 It's below 1%.
00:12:11.000 Yep, and 90,000 ballots sitting out there theoretically.
00:12:15.000 But even if it's 40,000, that switches the margin, right?
00:12:17.000 Yeah, it absolutely does.
00:12:18.000 And it also could potentially, it wouldn't have helped Martha McSally and her race, but it would have flipped some of these other very close, a lot of the closer races that are on the margins, but most importantly, the Biden Trump race in the state.
00:12:31.000 So, you know, people forensics looked at this from a fraudulent standpoint.
00:12:35.000 People that are involved in Wall Street and the Defense Department, and they basically said that there's anywhere from they're looking at 400,000 to 700,000 ballots that were messed with in Arizona.
00:12:48.000 In Arizona.
00:12:49.000 Wow, that's a big number.
00:12:50.000 It's a really big number.
00:12:51.000 How do they come to that number?
00:12:52.000 Well, so when batches, so these guys were actually scraping the information that was being amalgamated by Edison to the New York Times.
00:13:04.000 So they were gathering that information as it was being given.
00:13:07.000 Then they were also scraping from the Secretary of the State of Arizona.
00:13:09.000 So they were watching the dumps going in.
00:13:12.000 And some different things happened.
00:13:15.000 So if you're doing a general area, let's say Maricopa County, all your dumps should be pretty much the same.
00:13:21.000 But it isn't.
00:13:23.000 In Maricopa County, in Coconino County, in Pima County, and in Pinal, the front-end dumps were huge.
00:13:30.000 They were abnormal.
00:13:32.000 You mean the day of election dumps?
00:13:34.000 The day of election dumps.
00:13:35.000 Now, remember, we were counting ballots early here in the state of Arizona.
00:13:39.000 Sure.
00:13:39.000 We actually had that time.
00:13:41.000 But the numbers don't match up.
00:13:45.000 So it was like there was a whole bunch of votes piled up in a collection bin that they could offset some other candidate.
00:13:56.000 And so now the state legislature, what do they say when they're approached by saying there might be a 2% to 3% error rate?
00:14:04.000 Well, they're aware of that.
00:14:06.000 And it's stunning, isn't it?
00:14:07.000 They want to be able to go see the ballots.
00:14:10.000 They want to go see the machines.
00:14:12.000 They want to see the chain of custody.
00:14:17.000 Who touched those?
00:14:18.000 Who had access to the machines?
00:14:22.000 And once again, this goes back to Killchain.
00:14:24.000 When you see how easily these machines can be manipulated, it's pretty interesting.
00:14:29.000 Done by a liberal company, HBA.
00:14:32.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:14:32.000 Absolutely.
00:14:33.000 And it's taken from the standpoint of the Russia interference in the 2016 election.
00:14:38.000 That's what they were most worried about at the time.
00:14:40.000 That's what they were.
00:14:41.000 And so the focus of our concern, in my opinion, should be on this hand recount issue, the signature verification, and other states.
00:14:51.000 Georgia has a lot of problems with that.
00:14:53.000 But if you add all these up, all of a sudden, you're talking about serious impact on the margins.
00:14:59.000 Right, right.
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00:16:50.000 And so can you talk about just in this state, Arizona, what is being proposed to actually fix this, if anything?
00:17:00.000 Well, there's some ideas right now.
00:17:03.000 There's evidence of ballot harvesting in the state, which is illegal.
00:17:06.000 It's totally illegal. 1.00
00:17:08.000 But there were actually two women that were actually charged with it in the Yuma County area.
00:17:15.000 Yuma. 0.97
00:17:16.000 Yeah, Yuma County.
00:17:17.000 Which is traditionally a Democrat county?
00:17:18.000 No, no, I split it with Gerdal.
00:17:20.000 Yeah, I have the North side, he has the South side.
00:17:23.000 But Yuma is pretty Republican. 0.50
00:17:25.000 But then who are they harvesting on behalf of?
00:17:29.000 That is still to be known.
00:17:31.000 It's not Republican, I can tell you that.
00:17:34.000 Sure.
00:17:35.000 And so what other laws are they looking into?
00:17:38.000 I think what they're trying to look at is, I think, looking at the types of machines, the standardization of those machines.
00:17:46.000 It would be interesting to know that Jamie Raskin, who's now heading the peace within the United States.
00:17:52.000 He actually heard this information from the Senate Subcommittee on Homeland Security for Election Security and actually proposed legislation for some federal standardization of these machines Jamie Raskin.
00:18:05.000 So looking more comprehensively, I'm trying to always be very factual in what we're saying and saying that we have some suspicion, but there are places where we need more evidence.
00:18:14.000 Where do you think the biggest point of focus should be for our national listeners on this?
00:18:18.000 If they live in Michigan, if they live in Wisconsin, if they live in Pennsylvania or Georgia, where should their focus on this issue be?
00:18:24.000 Their focus should be on following the law.
00:18:27.000 I think when you follow the law, you don't get into trouble, Charlie.
00:18:30.000 You know, where if you're like in Arizona, if you have a permanent early ballot, okay, that we know who it is, that it's only ordered if you continue to continue to vote, and then you update your logs.
00:18:47.000 Make sure the addresses are right, that you haven't moved out of the state, out of state.
00:18:51.000 I think those are very, very key.
00:18:52.000 And then the last but not least, I think, is there's a reason why we have Election Day, is that you should go vote on Election Day.
00:19:02.000 I think we need to get back to that.
00:19:03.000 Totally, not this Election Month nonsense that we've gotten into.
00:19:06.000 Absolutely.
00:19:07.000 And so this mail-in ballot scheme that they're trying to pass through the House now, H.R. 1, has that passed?
00:19:14.000 It passed in the previous Congress.
00:19:15.000 Yes.
00:19:16.000 It has passed here this year.
00:19:21.000 Now it goes on to the Senate.
00:19:23.000 So it just passed in this Congress?
00:19:24.000 Yeah.
00:19:25.000 And so that will change voting the way we know it forever.
00:19:28.000 Well, but once again, it has to be formulated by the Senate.
00:19:34.000 Which who knows what they're going to do?
00:19:35.000 Who knows what they're going to do?
00:19:37.000 And signed by the president. 0.63
00:19:38.000 So we need in Arizona some serious changes to how we do elections in this state.
00:19:45.000 And it goes back, Charlie, to 2018.
00:19:47.000 There were some suspicions in regards to the former Maricopa County County recorder.
00:19:54.000 There was a woman that was running it right.
00:19:56.000 There was a guy. 1.00
00:19:57.000 Who was the woman that had all the lines that people hated? 0.97
00:20:00.000 Oh, that was Ellen Pursa. 0.98
00:20:01.000 Yeah, sure. 0.98
00:20:02.000 She was a Republican. 0.99
00:20:03.000 Yeah.
00:20:04.000 But Adrian Fontes, there were some questions.
00:20:06.000 He's a Bernie Sanders guy.
00:20:08.000 Yeah, at least that's what I've heard.
00:20:11.000 But what the supervisors then did is they cracked down on some of the things that he proposed, like the temporary ballot areas that were located in Pima County, for his jurisdiction, Maricopa.
00:20:30.000 And so if we don't get serious and significant reform in Arizona, then the elections will always be put into question, basically.
00:20:38.000 Absolutely.
00:20:39.000 And it gets back to the great state of Maricopa here in Arizona.
00:20:42.000 There's so many people here in Phoenix, you know, it overwhelms all the rest of us.
00:20:46.000 You know, so, but, you know, once again, I brought up not just Maricopa County, but Coconuto County, Pima County, and a little bit in Pinal.
00:20:54.000 Wow.
00:20:55.000 So looking kind of how things are going in Congress right now, the impeachment is going through their own whatever circus they're doing right now.
00:21:04.000 You guys are close to getting the majority back.
00:21:07.000 It's very close.
00:21:09.000 But you're also part of a House minority that feels like we're on defense right now.
00:21:13.000 It feels like the Democrats are pushing impeachment.
00:21:15.000 They're pushing a new Patriot Act.
00:21:17.000 They're pushing all sorts of different things.
00:21:19.000 What's it like right now, and what are the top priorities that you're looking to advocate for?
00:21:24.000 Well, the biggest problem is none of us are doing anything because they just actually populated our committees.
00:21:32.000 The problem is that the Speaker has been running everything through her shop to this point in time.
00:21:38.000 In fact, our calendar is going to be having the lowest amount of days in session in modern history.
00:21:46.000 Well, you spend more time in Arizona then.
00:21:48.000 Yeah, well, that's great, but it doesn't, you know, they say that when the legislature's not in, the people breathe.
00:21:54.000 But when the legislature is not in, that doesn't stop Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden with executive orders.
00:22:01.000 Well, you have mobile voting now, don't you?
00:22:03.000 Oh, yeah, proxy voting.
00:22:04.000 Oh, my goodness.
00:22:06.000 And so one of the top concerns that they are going to try to put forward, my concern, is they're going to try to pass a new surveillance state bill.
00:22:15.000 They're going to try to pass a piece of legislation similar to the Patriot Act to spy on, potentially infiltrate conservative groups.
00:22:23.000 Is this something you're hearing chatter about?
00:22:25.000 Absolutely.
00:22:25.000 We've seen this over and over again.
00:22:27.000 And I had a conversation with our former president in regards to the fact of the rule of law.
00:22:34.000 It's not been here for the last 12 years.
00:22:36.000 Even during his administration, people like the FBI director, even Barr, drugged their feet.
00:22:45.000 Where's the Durham report?
00:22:47.000 Struck Page, Comey.
00:22:50.000 Yeah.
00:22:50.000 I mean, over and over again.
00:22:52.000 What's happening with the Hunter Biden issue?
00:22:55.000 No upwards.
00:22:56.000 Well, one of his people associated with his defense is now criminal head of judiciary up in DOJ.
00:23:05.000 So there's a lot of problems in this aspect.
00:23:07.000 So we've got to get back to now.
00:23:09.000 Number one is getting back to the rule of law, following the rule of law.
00:23:13.000 That is key.
00:23:14.000 That's paramount number one.
00:23:16.000 I completely and totally agree.
00:23:18.000 And so going into Arizona, as we conclude here, a lot of people have this race circled in 2022, the Senate race and taking back the House.
00:23:29.000 There's a lot of listeners we have in Arizona here.
00:23:31.000 Follow the law, reform the system.
00:23:33.000 What else can they do to stay engaged and stay involved to make a positive?
00:23:36.000 I mean, if you believe in the Constitution that gives us our republic, that Constitutional Republic, if you believe in that, now you've got to share it.
00:23:44.000 Everybody's responsibility is to go to your children.
00:23:47.000 Start with your kids, your family unit first, then your friends and close family.
00:23:54.000 Build on why this republic, you know, it's with John F. Kennedy, he said it right.
00:24:00.000 It's not what my country can do for me.
00:24:01.000 Now it's what I can do for my country.
00:24:03.000 Wow.
00:24:04.000 That is a civic right there that all we really need.
00:24:08.000 It's well said.
00:24:09.000 Well, Congressman, thank you for what you are doing for our country.
00:24:12.000 And we are going to keep our eyes on Maricopa County.
00:24:14.000 I mean, what you said here, I wrote it down.
00:24:16.000 A 3% hand count error rate.
00:24:20.000 That just makes the mind go a little wild with what could have possibly happened.
00:24:23.000 Yeah, and that's the forensics that were seen by some of these groups.
00:24:27.000 You know, numbers don't lie.
00:24:30.000 That's what they did in credit card fraud.
00:24:32.000 That's what they do in banking fraud.
00:24:34.000 That's what they do all across the board.
00:24:35.000 Sampling, and then they.
00:24:36.000 That's exactly right.
00:24:37.000 And then they go back to look at maybe there was a discovery.
00:24:41.000 At first, what ends up happening is Democrats said, well, Democrats all voted early.
00:24:45.000 Republicans waited to the day of.
00:24:47.000 That's not true in Arizona.
00:24:48.000 That is not true.
00:24:49.000 Yes.
00:24:50.000 That's a great point that Arizona has a vote-by-mail culture regardless of party affiliation.
00:24:56.000 That's exactly right.
00:24:57.000 And so you would expect all the dumps to be fairly close.
00:25:00.000 Consistent, right?
00:25:01.000 Within one or two percent.
00:25:03.000 Not these exaggerated totals.
00:25:06.000 That's exactly right.
00:25:07.000 And that's what happened at the very beginning.
00:25:08.000 Something is amiss there.
00:25:10.000 Wow.
00:25:11.000 And they don't open up the records.
00:25:13.000 That tells you a lot about there.
00:25:14.000 Why wouldn't you want to be a little bit more than that?
00:25:15.000 At least it opens up the questions.
00:25:16.000 Like, what are you hiding?
00:25:17.000 That's exactly right.
00:25:19.000 There could be nothing or there could be something.
00:25:21.000 Again, I'm trying to be as fair as I can here.
00:25:24.000 I want to just stay very disciplined.
00:25:25.000 The reason, Congressman, is some people have, I get these emails of things that are a little bit over their skis.
00:25:32.000 I say, if we're going to get to the bottom of this, and you're doing a great job of this, just stay factual, follow the law, stay disciplined, just ask questions.
00:25:38.000 That's exactly right.
00:25:41.000 And sometimes a question breeds more questions.
00:25:43.000 That's what a statement.
00:25:45.000 That's exactly.
00:25:46.000 But what it does is it helps the certainty because what you're doing is you're empowering people to be the solution.
00:25:51.000 And that's the point, is that without before I come to a conclusion of what you said, I have another 100 questions that I want to ask.
00:25:59.000 And that's what an investigation is supposed to be.
00:26:02.000 Is the Arizona Attorney General interested in any of this?
00:26:04.000 Well, we approached him, Daya, because there was the Sharpiegate issue.
00:26:08.000 Yeah.
00:26:09.000 And he did send out a statement, if I remember.
00:26:10.000 He did send a statement out, but we also have FOIA requests out in regards to not only his office, but the Secretary of State, to make sure that when the alarm was raised, what did you do to make sure that it was.
00:26:24.000 So is the Arizona Republic or any of these newspapers interested in any of this?
00:26:28.000 Are they just...
00:26:29.000 Oh, they basically call it conspiracy theories.
00:26:33.000 I mean, anything I'm associated with.
00:26:34.000 But we're just asking questions.
00:26:35.000 We are.
00:26:36.000 But if I'm associated with it, it's a conspiracy theory.
00:26:39.000 The problem for them is, is I'm pretty much right every time I've gone down this road.
00:26:43.000 Well, there you go.
00:26:43.000 Well, Congressman, I know you have to go continue to keep up the good work.
00:26:47.000 And thank you for coming in today.
00:26:49.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:26:50.000 I want you to come back with an update as soon as we get some answers.
00:26:52.000 We'll do.
00:26:52.000 We'll do.
00:26:52.000 All right.
00:26:53.000 Thank you.
00:26:53.000 You got you.
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