The Charlie Kirk Show - A Case of Courage and Cowardice Among Two Republican Governors

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00:01:50.000 Leader versus manager, where is the courage? 0.99

00:01:52.000 The good governors, the bad governors, and dare I say the dumb ones. 1.00

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00:02:30.000 I want to explain something or explore something with you today.

00:02:34.000 And I hope all of you had a good long weekend.

00:02:36.000 Am I right, Kamala Harris?

00:02:38.000 Kamala Harris over the weekend said that I hope everyone enjoys their long weekend.

00:02:43.000 Of course, Memorial Day was this last weekend.

00:02:47.000 Memorial Day is usually the beginning of summer in a lot of people's calendar, in their minds and how they do scheduling.

00:02:57.000 Now, the question should be, why do we have Memorial Day right before summer or at the beginning of summer?

00:03:05.000 Well, for any of you that know military history, summers is when all the casualties would pile up.

00:03:15.000 If there was a war, for example, between the Allied forces and the Axis, the beginning of summer is when death really started to mount.

00:03:31.000 D-Day, of course, was June 6, 1944.

00:03:35.000 And that began a massive campaign throughout the European theater.

00:03:39.000 And yet, Kamala Harris said, I hope you have a long weekend.

00:03:42.000 Nice long weekend.

00:03:44.000 I don't think she said anything about the wonderful troops who gave the ultimate sacrifice.

00:03:48.000 And we as conservatives must never forget the three-tied knot of our existence.

00:03:52.000 Those that came before us, worrying about the present and those that have yet to be born.

00:03:57.000 We want to conserve things that work, that matter, that are beautiful, and that are true.

00:04:02.000 So why is it that so many of you feel as if we keep on electing Republicans, and in certain states, the states are getting less free and more collectivistic.

00:04:17.000 Well, it's because for governors in particular, we have been electing managers as governors, not leaders as governors.

00:04:25.000 There's a difference between management and leadership.

00:04:29.000 Management is simply thinking that you can keep on running the state better.

00:04:32.000 I'm going to make sure the state budget is passed.

00:04:38.000 I'm going to make sure that the workers are continually moving forward.

00:04:43.000 And I'm not going to do anything big or decisive.

00:04:45.000 I'm a manager.

00:04:47.000 Now, when difficulty comes and when there is adversity, management does very little.

00:04:56.000 There's a quote that we say quite often here on our program.

00:04:59.000 We also mention it on our Instagram.

00:05:01.000 Power shows the man.

00:05:03.000 Aristotle famously said this.

00:05:05.000 You want to find out who a person is?

00:05:06.000 Give them a bunch of power.

00:05:08.000 Give them a big budget.

00:05:10.000 Put them in a situation that has a lot of pressure and see who they are.

00:05:15.000 Now, we found out this last year that there are very few Republican governors worthy of praise.

00:05:21.000 In fact, there's more that are more in the management position.

00:05:24.000 Now, we have been very critical of many of these governors, and some, to their credit, have corrected course along the way.

00:05:32.000 A wise man loves to be corrected.

00:05:34.000 Let me say that again.

00:05:36.000 A wise man loves to be corrected.

00:05:39.000 Who wouldn't want to replace error with truth? 0.98

00:05:43.000 A fool commits themselves to abstraction and ideology despite voters demanding a different course. 0.73

00:05:53.000 A man who received a lot of criticism from me and from this program that I think has actually corrected course in the last couple of weeks is Governor Greg Abbott. 0.95

00:06:03.000 Now, Governor Greg Abbott, I thought, mishandled the Chinese coronavirus and the lockdowns.

00:06:07.000 He was slow to reopen.

00:06:10.000 He was quick to issue mask mandates.

00:06:14.000 Yet Governor Greg Abbott is playing hardball right now in the state of Texas.

00:06:17.000 And I want to talk about two states right now, the state of Texas and the state of Arizona.

00:06:22.000 Two completely different situations in the sense of how they're being handled by one that's a manager and one that's a governor.

00:06:33.000 Now, the manager of Arizona is Governor Doug Ducey, typical corporate type.

00:06:40.000 He ran a ice cream shop.

00:06:43.000 I've met Governor Ducey.

00:06:44.000 I know him.

00:06:46.000 I'm not going to say anything about Governor Ducey's character.

00:06:48.000 I think he's actually a pretty nice person.

00:06:50.000 I think Governor Ducey would be a great CEO again in his life and he was before.

00:06:55.000 But CEOs don't always make good leaders.

00:06:59.000 Let me say that again.

00:07:00.000 CEOs don't always make good leaders.

00:07:02.000 You see, most CEOs are good managers.

00:07:06.000 They're good at making sure what was happening before continues to happen and they hit certain corporate desired benchmarks.

00:07:14.000 You see, leadership is being able to navigate the uncertain, being able to defend those that can't defend themselves, pick tough fights and win those fights.

00:07:25.000 It takes courage.

00:07:26.000 It takes a commitment to the good.

00:07:28.000 Leadership is being able to profile people, understand their strengths and their weaknesses, organize them effectively, and persevere through difficulty.

00:07:42.000 Leadership requires perseverance.

00:07:44.000 Leadership requires a commitment to honesty and integrity.

00:07:49.000 So let me just tell you a little, I'm going to get to Texas, but I want to tell you what management looks like, not leadership.

00:07:54.000 Over this last weekend, of course, while all of you were celebrating Memorial Day and getting a much-deserved day off, Governor Doug Ducey on Friday vetoed 22 bills while the audit is happening in Arizona.

00:08:09.000 Republican Governor Doug Ducey, he vetoed a bill that would have prohibited critical race theory from government workers, that would have prohibited mass mailing of ballots to voters who did not request them.

00:08:21.000 He vetoed those bills.

00:08:24.000 And his excuse logically would not be able to pass a second grade logic class.

00:08:32.000 His excuse was, oh, these bills have good merit, but I'm not going to sign any of them until I get a budget.

00:08:38.000 Wait, so if they're good and they deliver value to the people of Arizona, why not sign them and then sign the budget?

00:08:47.000 What kind of backwards thinking is this?

00:08:53.000 Governor Ducey says, quote, today I vetoed 22 bills.

00:08:57.000 Some are good policy, but with one month left until the end of the fiscal year, we need to focus first on passing a budget.

00:09:04.000 That should be priority one.

00:09:06.000 The other stuff can wait.

00:09:07.000 Once the budget passes, I'm willing to consider some of these other issues.

00:09:10.000 But until then, I will not be signing any additional bills.

00:09:12.000 Let's focus on jobs, get to work, and pass the budget.

00:09:16.000 Let's focus on jobs and pass the budget.

00:09:18.000 Is that what your voters are saying?

00:09:20.000 No, your voters are actually very concerned about their children not loving America.

00:09:25.000 They're concerned about the racist critical race theory of organizing people based on skin color, not on character.

00:09:32.000 Senate Bill 1074 targeted critical race theory and would have prohibited any training for government employees involving racism and sexism.

00:09:40.000 That, quote, prevents any form of blame or judgment on the basis of race, ethnicity, or sex.

00:09:46.000 What constituency Governor Ducey is serving here, I don't know.

00:09:49.000 But I do know this.

00:09:51.000 If he would have signed these bills, he would have received some backlash.

00:09:54.000 This is a typical corporate type, though.

00:09:56.000 Run to the hills and make some excuse.

00:09:59.000 When the courageous thing would have been doing what Governor Abbott in Texas is doing.

00:10:05.000 And again, I've been very critical of Governor Abbott in the last year, right, Connor?

00:10:09.000 Especially after what he did with the lockdowns.

00:10:12.000 But he's correcting himself in a way that I think is very admirable.

00:10:17.000 And we're going to explore that and see exactly what he's doing right.

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00:11:11.000 A true leader has the confidence to stand alone, the courage to make tough decisions, and the compassion to listen to the needs of others.

00:11:19.000 He does not set out to be a leader, but he becomes one by the equality of his actions and the integrity of his intent.

00:11:28.000 General Douglas MacArthur, who famously said, I shall return to the Philippines, and he made good on that promise.

00:11:33.000 A great man, if only we taught our children great men.

00:11:37.000 Now instead, we teach them stuff that will be so horrifying to you, and we are going to get into that.

00:11:43.000 So we know what's happening in Arizona.

00:11:44.000 We have a corporate type, a manager, who, again, I've met Governor Ducey.

00:11:48.000 I'm not going to say that he's a bad person.

00:11:51.000 He is not what Douglas MacArthur would say, is a leader.

00:11:56.000 One of my favorite quotes on leadership is from Abraham Lincoln.

00:12:01.000 Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.

00:12:08.000 Very similar to the Aristotle quote of power shows the man.

00:12:12.000 So Governor Ducey has a lot of power in Arizona.

00:12:15.000 We're learning a lot about him, that he does not care about critical race theory.

00:12:19.000 He thinks it's perfectly fine that children learn the most racist ideology that is currently in America.

00:12:27.000 He thinks it's fine government workers learn critical race theory.

00:12:30.000 He thinks it's perfectly fine that elections do not have integrity and mail and ballots get sent all over the state of Arizona.

00:12:39.000 And maybe he's afraid of the fight or maybe he doesn't want to weigh in on actual structural changes because as a corporate type, he just wants to have agreement to pacify the most angry amongst the hordes of the activists.

00:12:58.000 22 bills Governor Ducey vetoed.

00:13:00.000 But let me tell you somebody who is playing hardball, Governor Abbott.

00:13:04.000 Now, this might be because he is facing, some would say, a credible primary challenge, a potential primary challenge.

00:13:10.000 He might actually have difficulty in the general.

00:13:13.000 I just spoke in Texas Hill Country in Kerrville, Texas about a month ago.

00:13:17.000 Fun place.

00:13:18.000 And I said, do you guys like Governor Abbott?

00:13:19.000 And the place just roared.

00:13:20.000 They hate him.

00:13:22.000 Booze everywhere.

00:13:23.000 I said, wow.

00:13:24.000 Okay, I'm never going to do that again.

00:13:26.000 And so I said, why?

00:13:27.000 And they were screaming.

00:13:29.000 So I think Governor Abbott probably received that message.

00:13:33.000 But again, I admire people that course correct.

00:13:36.000 I keep an open mind day to day.

00:13:38.000 If somebody says, hey, I'm no longer going to be insulting my voters.

00:13:44.000 I'm going to instead try to do what's right for the people that elected me.

00:13:48.000 And I wasn't doing it before.

00:13:50.000 I'm willing to give them a fair hearing.

00:13:52.000 I'm not going to forget what they once did, but I will applaud people that correct.

00:13:55.000 And so Governor Abbott, he is going to the mat on this.

00:14:02.000 Governor Abbott has now threatened to cut off the salaries of the Democrat state legislatures who walked out of the chamber to prevent a quorum.

00:14:11.000 He says, quote, no pay for those who abandon their responsibility.

00:14:14.000 So Governor Abbott is trying to pass far-sweeping voter integrity reform, which would prohibit temporary polling places in a tent or other movable structures that were designed for cars, set times dictating when polling places can be open,

00:14:30.000 make it a Class B misdemeanor for an election officer to knowingly refuse to accept a poll watcher for service, require a paper audit trail for votes, and require those seeking an application to vote by mail because of a disability to provide the, quote, specific grounds on which the voter is eligible for a ballot to be voted by mail on the ground of disability, would make it a state jail felony for a public official to solicit, quote, the submission of an application to vote by mail from a person who did not request an application.

00:15:01.000 And perhaps the biggest objection, I'm reading from National Review, is declaring that voting on Sunday may only begin after 1 p.m., which critics contend is an attempt to limit the souls to the polls.

00:15:12.000 But the bill declares the polls may remain open till 9 p.m.

00:15:16.000 Now, of course, Joe Biden has said that this is a assault on democracy, but to get this done, Greg Abbott is willing to call a special session and require the Democrat state legislatures come back.

00:15:27.000 So you have a manager and you have someone who wants to be a leader.

00:15:31.000 Now, maybe he wants to be a leader or maybe he just wants to hold on to power.

00:15:35.000 And we're going to explore that because Governor Abbott is afraid of losing re-election.

00:15:40.000 Governor Ducey is acting like a philosopher king.

00:15:42.000 He's acting like a 13th century autocrat because there is no election that will hold Governor Ducey accountable because he's term limited.

00:15:49.000 Would be an argument against term limits.

00:15:52.000 Elections are supposed to be mechanisms to hold elected officials accountable.

00:15:57.000 There are four distinct aspects of the American system: it is the consent of the governed, the separation of powers, checks and balances, independent judiciary, actually, there's five, and representative government.

00:16:11.000 Representative government is that we don't have a direct democracy where you just show up in a town hall meeting, everyone starts screaming, you elect people to represent your values and fight for you.

00:16:21.000 Why is it that so many Republicans are afraid to fight?

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00:17:26.000 Only a constitutional republic would allow for the differences between states.

00:17:32.000 If you read the Federalist Papers, specifically if you read Federalist 10 and Federalist 51, and Federalist 10 might be the best Federalist paper written, and the Federalist Papers, you might remember, was a series of anonymously written arguments between the Federalists and the Anti-Federalists, where the Federalists were written mostly by James Madison and Alexander Hamilton, and the Anti-Federalists were written by Thomas Jefferson.

00:17:52.000 This is when the successful, the victors of the American Revolution, were wrestling with what type of government do we want?

00:18:01.000 Do we want a direct democracy?

00:18:02.000 Do we want to model ourselves off Athens?

00:18:04.000 Do we want autocracy?

00:18:05.000 Do we want to embrace kind of this wide-reaching confederation of states?

00:18:10.000 Now, the Articles of Confederation were becoming a disaster.

00:18:14.000 They were becoming a disaster because of interstate commerce, because of actual insurrections that were happening all across America because of a lack of national unity.

00:18:23.000 So in the spring of 1787, there was an agreement that we need to explore these ideas.

00:18:28.000 So the Federalist Papers were written anonymously, actually to a newspaper in New York.

00:18:33.000 Actually, I believe it was the equivalent of the New York Post, by the way.

00:18:36.000 That's an interesting little factoid.

00:18:38.000 Alexander Hamilton started the New York Post, and now they're censored by social media oligarchs.

00:18:43.000 But the Federalist papers were written, and there was this concern by the Anti-Federalists.

00:18:50.000 And by the way, not everything the Anti-Federalists said were wrong.

00:18:54.000 The Anti-Federalists, they get kind of swept in the dustbin of history.

00:18:58.000 There was a lot they were right about.

00:18:59.000 But of course, Madison and Hamilton won the debate in the Constitutional Convention through the summer of 1787 ended in September, which then, of course, started the ratification of the U.S. Constitution and with it, the Union of the United States.

00:19:13.000 But within the U.S. Constitution was a recognition of sovereignty of states.

00:19:19.000 And Justice Louis Brandeis, who I believe was somewhat of a liberal, he even said that a beauty of the American system was the laboratories of democracy, that Florida is going to be different than Georgia and Georgia is going to be different than New York.

00:19:33.000 And so in the last year, there's been a lot of tests thrown at governors.

00:19:37.000 And I would make an argument.

00:19:39.000 This is the most dramatic differences of living in America since before the Civil Rights Act.

00:19:46.000 I believe America is more different in the sense of the differences between states than any other time since the antebellum South.

00:19:56.000 That you have a completely different way of living when you go and travel to Florida or when you go and travel to Kansas or New Jersey or Maine.

00:20:07.000 Now, some of that is very healthy.

00:20:08.000 In fact, I prefer that than the tyranny of the centralized power.

00:20:16.000 The fact that we are able to have some form of self-government, some form of local control, I think is a very healthy thing.

00:20:23.000 And I think it's actually a sustainable thing.

00:20:26.000 But now as we explore management governors versus governors that are leaders, we must ask ourselves the question, why are certain governors willing to pick the tough fights?

00:20:37.000 Now, Governor Abbott, he's playing hardball.

00:20:39.000 Let's listen to some sound here of Governor Abbott.

00:20:43.000 First, let's go to cut 11 on how Governor Abbott is trying to sign a new bill on election reform looking at mail and ballots.

00:20:50.000 Cut 11.

00:20:51.000 What this law really does, and so in Texas, every session we focus on making sure we have safe and secure elections.

00:20:58.000 And this has absolutely nothing to do with the past presidential election.

00:21:02.000 But one thing that we do know in Texas, and that is that mail-in ballots are rife with fraud, as well as ballot harvesting.

00:21:12.000 And he continued by saying there was a voter fraud scheme in southern Texas where an Obama judge ruled that voter fraud happens in abundance.

00:21:22.000 Thank you, Greg Abbott, for saying what we all know to be true.

00:21:26.000 Our leaders need to defend our voters.

00:21:29.000 Cut 12.

00:21:30.000 And that is, it's not me talking.

00:21:32.000 It's a federal judge appointed by Barack Obama in Texas that made a ruling that said that ballot harvesting and mail-in ballots fraud happens in abundance in the state of Texas.

00:21:46.000 Barack Obama himself, with Joe Biden as vice president, they investigated and prosecuted a ballot harvesting scheme in South Texas where they were using cocaine to buy votes.

00:21:58.000 We're just trying to make sure that we crack down on voter fraud like that.

00:22:02.000 Good for him.

00:22:03.000 Meanwhile, Governor Ducey is saying, no, no, we just got to pass a budget.

00:22:06.000 So what does Governor Ducey say?

00:22:08.000 He says that let's focus on jobs, get to work, and pass the budget.

00:22:11.000 Yeah, that's what the Chamber of Commerce would say, of course.

00:22:14.000 That's all they care about.

00:22:16.000 They only care about the needs, wants, and interests of America, the colony, not America, the country.

00:22:24.000 If you think America is just a temporary place to make a bunch of money because it has natural resources and a driven population and you're able to start businesses, but you don't actually care about the fabric of America, the through line that keeps this country our home continuing, then you're nothing more than a management class.

00:22:43.000 You see, I can teach management.

00:22:46.000 You can go to Harvard Business School for management.

00:22:49.000 In fact, many of these governors did.

00:22:50.000 You can go to Harvard Business School and learn how to count beans and manage personalities and drive shareholder value and execute a merger and acquisition.

00:23:01.000 Mitt Romney is a manager.

00:23:03.000 Mitt Romney is not a leader.

00:23:05.000 Mitt Romney ran Bain Capital.

00:23:06.000 Mitt Romney was largely responsible for the deindustrialization of America, where he would show up at a manufacturing plant in Indiana and give out pink slips and say, guess what? 0.76

00:23:16.000 These washing machines are now made in Wuhan.

00:23:21.000 But a leader is someone who stands up against an injustice and decides to do something about it.

00:23:28.000 To be a leader means that you must have a vision.

00:23:32.000 You must have courage.

00:23:34.000 You must have a commitment to justice, which is the most public of all the virtues.

00:23:39.000 And Governor Ducey is not a leader.

00:23:41.000 He's a manager.

00:23:42.000 Now, Governor Ducey might actually have been a good governor 10 years ago when you were not in a position of high stress, pressure, when people were demanding results.

00:23:53.000 You see, Republican voters used to want managers.

00:23:56.000 This is why Jeb Bush was actually a pretty good governor in Florida.

00:23:59.000 And I've said this before.

00:24:01.000 Jeb Bush was actually a very good governor because back in 2000, because we were given a gift by our forefathers, we were able to skate by with a management class running our states.

00:24:13.000 A management class that used to say, you know what?

00:24:16.000 We're not going to change anything dramatically.

00:24:19.000 We're just going to run the state well.

00:24:21.000 School choice, keep taxes low, no transformational structural changes.

00:24:28.000 And Jeb Bush is kind of built for that.

00:24:30.000 Jeb Bush is a CEO type, a corporate type.

00:24:33.000 But would I want Jeb Bush to lead our country into a war?

00:24:37.000 No.

00:24:38.000 Now, the funny thing about leaders and the thing about leadership is that people don't always want to be led.

00:24:46.000 Sometimes they just want to have things managed for them.

00:24:49.000 A great example of this is Winston Churchill.

00:24:52.000 Winston Churchill was removed from leadership in a vote of no confidence before the war.

00:24:57.000 He was brought back in a rush of enthusiasm during the war and removed after the war.

00:25:03.000 You see, leadership is something that some people only want when things get really bad.

00:25:09.000 But when things get bad, they say, bring them in.

00:25:12.000 And Governor Ron DeSantis has been probably the best at this.

00:25:16.000 Let's go to cut 13.

00:25:19.000 And, you know, I was just in Chicago and some people that listened to my show said, Charlie, your show is sounding more and more like a Governor Ron DeSantis commercial.

00:25:26.000 I said, well, listen, here's why.

00:25:28.000 We value things that matter.

00:25:30.000 We like the virtues of courage, leadership, direction, results, being honest with your voters.

00:25:38.000 And we have a special disgust for the American political class that has decided that those things don't matter.

00:25:47.000 Play cut of Ron DeSantis.

00:25:49.000 All the stuff you talked about, but we also banned these Zuckerbucks where Zuckerberg was spending all that money to run the elections in these areas.

00:25:55.000 That is now banned in the state of Florida.

00:25:57.000 Is the future of the Republican Party, America First, make America great again?

00:26:01.000 Or would you add or subtract from any of that?

00:26:03.000 Oh, I think that's the core of it.

00:26:05.000 I mean, I think President Trump got the basics right.

00:26:08.000 As times change, you have to look to see what new issues come along.

00:26:12.000 Not exactly sure what he means by times change.

00:26:15.000 I'm going to let him finish that answer, but I think he gets it.

00:26:18.000 And Governor DeSantis has acted on all of these things.

00:26:21.000 He banned critical race theories.

00:26:23.000 So leadership versus management.

00:26:25.000 Critical race theory has been banned in the state of Florida.

00:26:27.000 Critical race theory has been banned in the state of Oklahoma.

00:26:30.000 Thank you, Governor Stitt.

00:26:31.000 Critical race theory has been banned in the state of Montana.

00:26:33.000 Thank you, Governor Gianforte.

00:26:35.000 It's been banned in the state of Tennessee.

00:26:37.000 Thank you, Governor Lee.

00:26:40.000 However, Governor Ducey thinks that critical race theory is just fine.

00:26:43.000 No, he says that, no, we have to pass a budget first.

00:26:48.000 So this is kind of the equivalent.

00:26:50.000 Here's what Governor Ducey's argument is to the people of Arizona, of which we are doing this broadcast right now.

00:26:55.000 Hey, I understand the living room's on fire, but we haven't gone grocery shopping yet because we're all really hungry.

00:27:02.000 That's the argument he's making.

00:27:04.000 Don't put out the fire in the living room.

00:27:06.000 We have to go grocery shopping.

00:27:08.000 And until we go grocery shopping, we can't put out the fire in the living room.

00:27:12.000 Hey, Governor Ducey, put out the fire in the living room, then you can go grocery shopping.

00:27:18.000 He's saying, oh, no, no, no, the fire can wait.

00:27:22.000 It's still going to be burning after I get my budget done, after I get grocery shopping done.

00:27:27.000 Do you see the logical incoherence here?

00:27:30.000 Only someone that is either compromised or just kind of in a management point of view.

00:27:38.000 I don't want anything disagreeable.

00:27:40.000 I don't want the activists to come after me.

00:27:44.000 It's inexcusable.

00:27:45.000 And you wonder why Arizona is becoming more and more like Colorado.

00:27:51.000 It's one of my favorite Bible verses.

00:27:55.000 Without a vision, the people perish.

00:27:58.000 Without a vision, the people of Arizona don't know what is right and what is wrong.

00:28:03.000 Without a vision, they say, I guess Democrats are better than Republicans because we have a governor that is not able to articulate clearly what we believe and why we believe it.

00:28:13.000 You know why Florida is now one of the most Republican states in the country?

00:28:17.000 Let me say that again.

00:28:17.000 Florida is more Republican than Georgia.

00:28:21.000 Florida is more Republican than Georgia.

00:28:24.000 Florida is more Republican in some ways than South Carolina.

00:28:29.000 How is that possible?

00:28:30.000 It's because with a vision, people are able to say, I believe in that.

00:28:35.000 Or maybe you don't, and then we'll prove you wrong.

00:28:38.000 But without a vision, which is what living in Arizona is like, there's no vision.

00:28:42.000 No.

00:28:43.000 You got legalized weed.

00:28:44.000 You got the highest taxes in the American Southwest, higher than Illinois.

00:28:48.000 No plan to even get rid of Prop 208.

00:28:52.000 You got homelessness on the rise.

00:28:54.000 You got vagrancy.

00:28:55.000 You got sexual degeneracy curriculum. 0.97

00:28:58.000 You got Californians coming in like it's the gold rush.

00:29:02.000 And instead, we're vetoing bills that would actually make Arizona a better place to live.

00:29:06.000 Why?

00:29:09.000 Power shows the man.

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00:29:56.000 What is liberty?

00:29:57.000 Is liberty doing whatever you want to do whenever you want to do it?

00:30:00.000 No, liberty is doing what you ought to do, the pursuit of virtue.

00:30:03.000 What is virtue?

00:30:05.000 Well, virtue is the pursuit of the good.

00:30:07.000 What is the good?

00:30:07.000 Well, now we're having a discussion on morality.

00:30:10.000 But the way that secular humanists, the people running our society, have been doing things, we're not even allowed to have a conversation on morality.

00:30:18.000 It's, oh, it's my truth.

00:30:19.000 How do you know a line is crooked if you do not have a straight line to compare it to?

00:30:24.000 Well, in New York City, they are truly pushing the boundaries of postmodern humanism at Columbia Grammar Squad for $55,000 a year.

00:30:37.000 This is a story, and I'm reading off of CharlieKirk.com, where New York City prep parents at Columbia School show that first graders have to take a pornography class where they brought in an expert on child pornography.

00:30:56.000 Fantastic curriculum, of course, $450,000 were given by hedge fund billionaire Bill Ackman's Pershing Squares Foundation.

00:31:06.000 Now, if my memory serves me correctly, Bill Ackman is the man who also made a ton of money off of shorting the market last spring.

00:31:15.000 I think it was Bill Ackman's fund who he made multi-billions of dollars, $1.7 billion, I want to say.

00:31:21.000 More than that off of a massive short of the market.

00:31:24.000 He bought the VIX and then some as soon as the market was at 29,800.

00:31:30.000 Am I right, Connor?

00:31:32.000 You see, we joke around here that I am a wealth of useless information, but it becomes seemingly less useless when it becomes useful.

00:31:40.000 So then these first graders were instructed on how to, and again, I'll do a trigger warning on how to touch themselves for pleasure, six-year-olds.

00:31:50.000 This is for $50,000 a year, you can get this at a New York City prep school.

00:31:56.000 Fonte reassured parents that he did not use the word that we're all thinking here, and that her lessons teach kids not to touch themselves in public.

00:32:05.000 Ah, not to touch themselves in public.

00:32:07.000 Also, it says it teaches the kids that they must tell their parents that they must ask for consent before they get a hug.

00:32:17.000 No hugging without consent is what Fonte teaches.

00:32:21.000 A Dalton mother told the New York Post, quote, kids have no less than five classes on gender identity. 1.00

00:32:27.000 This is pure indoctrination.

00:32:29.000 Quote, this person should absolutely not be teaching children.

00:32:31.000 Ironically, she teaches kids about consent, yet she has never gotten consent from parents about the sexually explicit and age-inappropriate material about transgenderism to first graders.

00:32:41.000 We were horrified to learn this was shown to our first grade six and seven-year-old kids without our knowledge or consent.

00:32:47.000 But it's so hard to fight back because you'll get canceled and your child will suffer.

00:32:49.000 Well, how about not sending your kid to this school?

00:32:51.000 Of course, you'll get canceled.

00:32:53.000 You see, and it's a provocative question.

00:32:56.000 Does liberalism or the movement of liberation always end in degenerative authoritarianism?

00:33:05.000 Is it possible to talk about classical liberalism without it ending up in this?

00:33:11.000 I don't know the answer to that question.

00:33:14.000 So Rob Amari on our program came on and he said, no.

00:33:19.000 He said, this is inevitable.

00:33:21.000 By the way, this is only going to get worse.

00:33:23.000 Get worse.

00:33:23.000 Soon we'll be teaching three-year-olds how to touch themselves.

00:33:26.000 Soon we'll be saying that kids do not have to be raised by their parents, which is, of course, a very predictable pattern that the authoritarians and the totalitarians ever use.

00:33:36.000 But for $55,000 a year at the Columbia Grammar School, you can have your child learn that there is no such thing as a man and a woman, that you should be touching yourselves in private, and that your parents should not have to hug you without your consent.

00:33:53.000 Columbia Grammar and Preparatory School.

00:33:56.000 I'm reading off of CharlieKirk.com.

00:33:58.000 If you want to read it for yourself, it's on our front page.

00:34:01.000 And this is a prep school.

00:34:03.000 Education comes from the Latin word to lead forth.

00:34:07.000 What are we leading our children forth into?

00:34:10.000 If they are going for $55,000 a year, and until parents start to take ownership of their children and take their kids out and start to make noise and not just say, as this one parent says, well, we're going to get canceled.

00:34:21.000 Ah.

00:34:22.000 So you're worried your child won't go to Yale, but you're perfectly fine with them learning this stuff when they're six years old.

00:34:28.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:30.000 Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.

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00:34:37.000 God bless you guys.

00:34:38.000 Speak to you soon.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - June 01, 2021

A Case of Courage and Cowardice Among Two Republican Governors

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