Sen. Markwayne Mullen (R-Oklahoma) joins the show to talk about the latest on the shooting at the White House, including the fact that the Secret Service had a suspect in custody 62 minutes prior to the shooting, but did nothing to identify him. Also, the SEC has been added to the Big 12 Conference, which could be a good thing for OU football and the Sooners, but what does that mean for the rest of the conference? What will it mean for OSU football and other sports in the future? And, who is responsible for protecting the President from a would-be assassin on the third perimeter of a presidential compound in Washington, D.C.? Will it be enough to protect the President, or will it be more than enough to keep the President safe? Join the "Member Drive" to become a Member of The Charlie Kirk Show and become a Friend of Turning Point USA! Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments, a company that specializes in gold and physical delivery of precious metals. That's where I buy all of my gold. That is Noble Gold Investing and Delivery of my Gold. That is noblegoldinvestments. It is where I Buy All of My Gold. It s where I BUY ALL OF MY GLORIOUS INVESTMENTS! Go to NobleGoldInvestments.com/TheCharlieKirkShow/NobleGold/TTPUSA/Tpusa/TPusa/The CharlieKirk Show Subscribe to The Charlie KirkerkirkShow. It s the official gold sponsor of the show on the show! Become a Member! You get 20% off your first month and receive 10% off the entire month of the first month for the remainder of the month, plus an additional 3 months off of the second month, and a FREE shipping discount when you become a patron! Learn more about your ad discount! Click here! The show only discount code: "Membercharliekirkshow/Turning Point USA/MemberCharlison@tpusa.ee/MemberCHarlison.co/Member_Kirkshow.ee&t=1p&referenced=3d_t=3s&ref=1&qid=8&q&qref=4s=1s&q=3 &q=8s=3Pusa&qb=1m3m3&qtr=1a&qr=4m3
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00:02:13.000You know, I think OU is going to be humbled a little bit, maybe in the SEC.
00:02:17.000They'll come back because they're a football program, but it could be challenged the first year.
00:02:21.000I'm cheering for Venables, he seems like a good guy.
00:02:23.000So Senator, we were chatting this morning, wanted to have you on the show.
00:02:27.000You have been on this issue of the Secret Service, so there's some really disturbing new reports.
00:02:33.000Is it correct that the Secret Service had eyes on the would-be assassin 62 minutes ahead of time?
00:02:39.000Yes, so we got a time frame yesterday.
00:02:42.000We got a time frame yesterday and it was very disturbing that they went back and they said that they had identified him as a point of interest.
00:02:51.000Now mind you, the shooting took place at 6.11.
00:02:55.000So at 5.09, which was 62 minutes prior to the shooting, they had identified him because he had a backpack and a rangefinder and he was just outside the third perimeter.
00:03:04.000Now the question is, if you identified him, then why didn't you go make contact with him?
00:03:10.000Because they lost contact because actually 19 minutes before the shooting took place, which was nine minutes before the president took the stage, they were actively looking for him and they couldn't find him.
00:03:22.000Okay, now that's a huge, that's a huge lapse in security.
00:03:26.000Well, so you've done this type of work though, is that correct?
00:03:40.000You have some undercover, but local police officers, sheriffs and stuff.
00:03:44.000The inner perimeter will be a lot more tight security.
00:03:46.000That's where you go through and get your bags checked.
00:03:48.000That's where they're checking vehicles, right?
00:03:51.000that's going to be your SWAT team, uniform, and military presence. Your inner
00:03:56.000one, which is called the inner diamond, that's the secret service. Those
00:04:00.000are the guys that jumped on President Trump. But who's responsible for all of
00:04:03.000it, of making sure the perimeter, making sure the inner perimeter, the third
00:04:07.000perimeter, and the inside, that's the secret service. They're responsible for
00:04:10.000the whole project. And someone felled on two different cases, right?
00:04:15.000They failed when they identified the building because they actually said they identified the building at 150 yards as a point of concern because it had a direct line of sight to the President.
00:04:25.000What they didn't say on the call we had with the Secret Service is if that building was supposed to be protected.
00:04:33.000If you had it as a point of interest, someone should have been on that building.
00:04:37.000That doesn't mean on top, but making sure that someone wasn't able to climb up the building.
00:04:40.000But Senator, I just gotta, so this is, so many failures like this in a row, it just deteriorates faith in these institutions.
00:04:49.000No drone support, no helicopter support, and did they not have counter snipers that were also seeing a guy army crawl on a roof?
00:04:56.000It's not like Gotham City where you gotta have 500 roofs.
00:04:58.000There's six of them in Butler, Pennsylvania.
00:05:00.000Look, you and I have been around President Trump and his security.
00:05:07.000And the worst thing you can do when you're doing protective service work or you're doing advanced work is being complacent, thinking, oh, we got this, we're okay.
00:05:15.000The minute you let your guard down and you're not going through your checklist, you're making assumptions instead of planning for the worst, you're going to allow stuff like this to happen.
00:05:23.000There were so many failure points at this point.
00:06:26.000They knew the timeframe of him and they still didn't detain him.
00:06:29.000Even if he was walking around, you don't have to detain him but you can search his backpack.
00:06:33.000It raises more questions than we actually got answers.
00:06:37.000And the biggest question of all, which I think you would agree with, why not Pull the president off stage if there's even a micron of a question.
00:06:47.000All these other ones are very mechanical, yet critical and embarrassing.
00:06:55.000It's either this was a Black Swan event of a thousand failures or something darker that I don't even want to entertain.
00:07:01.000I don't want to go down the conspiracy thing because we need to actually do the investigation and find out where it leads.
00:07:08.000Not pulling the president off stage is weird.
00:07:10.000And see, if you've got a principal that you have a problem, this is what contingency plans is all about.
00:07:14.000You always have A, B, and C contingency plans.
00:07:16.000You've got a principal that's on stage, you have contingency plans to get him off because as a person protecting you, you have a detail that's with you, and if we're protecting you, the goal is to protect you from harassment, embarrassment, and death.
00:08:16.000The AIC, you have a shift lead, typically, which is number two in charge.
00:08:21.000If the shift lead was informing the AIC, hey, we need to pull the president, the AIC makes the ultimate call.
00:08:27.000No one's going to make the call without the AIC giving full orders unless he goes down, which in this case, obviously, no one went down except President Trump and the firefighter.
00:08:36.000And also, praise God, That not more people died, but it's just a terrible thing that occurred.
00:09:11.000Well, she was avoiding our questions yesterday, too.
00:09:14.000I think the questions that we had yesterday, they must have been pre-set because only five people got asked questions at the end of the call 20 minutes early.
00:09:21.000Um, it's the accountability that we see from this entire administration.
00:09:24.000No one has ever been held accountable.
00:09:27.000I mean, you've seen disaster decisions after disaster decision.
00:09:30.000Afghanistan, no one's been held accountable for it.
00:09:32.000Uh, and no one, and if, if, if, if this wasn't such an outcry of such a disgrace to what happened here, no one be held accountable accountable here too, but there will be people accountable.
00:10:56.000And at that point, then you guys can run your own because I think we need a congressionally led Church and Pike Committee style investigation into this.
00:11:06.000If we don't admit we made problems, you're destined to do it again.
00:11:09.000And I don't care if you're a Republican or a Democrat, when you're being protected by the Secret Service, you should know you're protected.
00:11:28.000Hey, let me tell you a real quick story.
00:11:30.000After Trump obviously got shot, I called him the next day, right?
00:11:36.000And typical Trump, he's a machine, he's going on 90 miles an hour.
00:11:39.000And he makes a joke right off the bat after acknowledging that God saved his life, he goes, You know, Mark Wayne, my ears are going to look like yours now.
00:11:45.000Because mine are all jacked up from wrestling.
00:13:37.000And I said, look, if you need investigators, there's great private ones, there's great public ones.
00:13:40.000You need to enforce the public will, issue subpoenas, enforce those subpoenas, demand the documentation, not Give it to the American public in six months.
00:14:10.000I've done over 50 trips with the president, in office, out of office.
00:14:14.000There is a monumental mechanical failure here.
00:14:16.000And I don't know if it was one lapse or multiple lapses.
00:14:19.000And that's why America, to bring the country together behind Donald Trump, needs the truth as to what actually happened on that day.
00:14:26.000And that's not going to come from the FBI or DOJ.
00:14:27.000It's not going to come from outside analysts.
00:14:29.000It's going to come from when you interview every single witness in open door.
00:14:33.000Every single interview must be supported by documentation, the memos.
00:14:36.000We got a big battle as to whether or not there was an augmentation request for Trump years, or excuse me, months before, and the Secret Service has said no.
00:14:44.000I believe the Secret Service director is lying, and I have proof that I think we can get, but Congress needs to act and show us those materials.
00:14:52.000Do you think that a special commission would satisfy this, or a special committee?
00:14:57.000I think a special committee could satisfy it.
00:14:59.000It depends on, you know, are we going to set it up like the unselect committee of January 6th, or are we going to do a righteous blue ribbon commission like 9-11, or the House Intel Select Committee that did Russiagate?
00:15:10.000So Cash, now looking at this election moving forward, looks like Joe Biden will not be the nominee.
00:15:22.000Well look, I've been saying for about two years that Biden wasn't going to be the nominee.
00:15:25.000And as soon as the missteps started to happen, then the physical missteps started to happen, then the mainstream media started to come in.
00:15:31.000And now everybody that said they would always support Joe Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, The Democratic Party, the mainstream media, Joe Scarborough and all those guys are now calling for his resignation.
00:17:15.000We need a bit more reform, but we've made a start.
00:17:18.000Reform UK is there, and I'm going to reconfigure... It doesn't sound like a democracy to me.
00:17:23.000Well, it's a very flawed system, but I tell you what, we're going to reconfigure the centre right of British politics the way that people like you and Donald Trump have done so here.
00:17:33.000And so, let's go now back to American politics.
00:23:26.000I mean, we have, in this week alone, probably seen 150 people on that stage that are better than anyone the Democrats are going to have at their convention.
00:23:42.000Yeah, we just have very talented people.
00:23:43.000We've become the party of talented people.
00:23:45.000And I think that's really important that we're able to attract people that come from such varied backgrounds, have some differences of views, by the way, on maybe this issue or that issue.
00:23:55.000But they found their home in this party.
00:23:57.000And that's a transformation that I think is going to bear fruit for the next 25 years.
00:24:01.000And so, Senator, I want to just take a step back here.
00:24:04.000This could have been one of the saddest conventions in American history.
00:24:11.000Where were you on Saturday when you heard the news?
00:24:13.000I was in Miami and I was actually watching it live on television.
00:24:17.000And, you know, when you saw it, You try to your mind can't process it because it's so foreign to anything you've ever seen.
00:24:23.000And it sounded maybe somebody set off some fireworks, maybe some something, you know, sparked up on the stage because I could see the president react to it.
00:24:30.000But as you come to the realization of what's happened, the first thing that flashed across my mind was, if this is the worst case scenario, this is going to tear this country apart.
00:24:39.000Like, I don't even know there would have been a convention this week.
00:26:26.000It is more efficient to make medicine in China.
00:26:28.000It is not good for America to depend on China for our medicine.
00:26:31.000And those are the things that no one was asking about before.
00:26:34.000I think it's forced a lot of people in American politics to re-evaluate it from that standpoint, and you start to realize we need to have an industrial capacity in our country, or you're not just going to leave our country vulnerable.
00:26:44.000You're going to leave a lot of Americans permanently behind.
00:26:47.000So a question I have is that within the delegates, 95% would agree with what you just said.
00:26:56.000Senate, in the conversations you're having, the robust discussions and debate, do you see that your viewpoint is growing and having more momentum with members?
00:27:06.000Yeah, it's growing, but it's a process.
00:27:09.000And it's a process because you have to understand for a lot of people who came of age in American politics, by the way, people say Reagan wasn't, Reagan actually was more aligned to this than people think he was.
00:27:18.000But it's a growing process because if you came of age in American politics from 2000 to 2010, 90 to 2010, you know, the dominant theory in the Republican Party was, you know, unfettered market, irrespective of the impact on America.
00:27:34.000And so I think it's really only been since about 2014, especially with Trump in 2015, that orthodoxy started to get challenged.
00:27:42.000But what's happening now is that the people getting elected are a product of that way of thinking.
00:27:47.000And so it begins to change the Senate.
00:27:49.000It's most certainly already changed the House.
00:27:51.000So I think from now moving forward, the trend line in the Republican Senate is going to increasingly reflect these views, because that's who voters are electing.
00:28:00.000And eventually there needs to be a mirror between the voters and those people who are actually representing them.
00:28:05.000Hopefully, or else the system is unsustainable.
00:28:08.000If your political class does not respond and is completely out of touch with people, that's not sustainable.
00:28:15.000By the way, it's not just happening in America.
00:28:16.000It's happening in every Western industrialized economy in the world, where everyday people being left behind by globalization are pushing back against the Not just a unique American phenomenon.
00:28:27.000I also see a positive attitude shift in the Republican Party.
00:28:30.000And I saw it on display yesterday in something that I don't think I ever would have saw.
00:28:34.000Senator Barrasso, who I think is wonderful, and Senator Blackburn, they were not happy with the Secret Service director.
00:28:40.000In fact, they kept on walking with them through the halls because of the outrage.
00:28:44.000I don't know if we would have saw that a decade ago.
00:28:46.000They would have just kind of sent a letter and said, we'll hear back in a couple weeks.
00:28:49.000There's a passion and an energy and a zeal now from Senate leadership saying, no, no, no, you respond to us.
00:28:57.000The Secret Service, we have legislative oversight over you.
00:29:00.000I think the worst part about what we've seen with them is that I believe that in the future people will point to how the Secret Service has handled this in the aftermath and say, that's how you do not handle.
00:29:09.000There should have been daily press conferences.
00:31:22.000And worst of all, they kept like 90, 80, 90 billion dollars worth of our equipment.
00:31:26.000We left them $90 billion worth of our equipment, and we have images around the world of people hanging off the wings of a C-130 as it's evacuating.
00:31:34.000And it was not a coincidence to me that a few months later, Putin says, oh my God, let's go into Ukraine right now.
00:31:41.000And by the way, how powerful was that to have all those Gold Star families last evening?
00:31:59.000And at the same time, I think it reveals that one of the reasons why they don't want to say their name is because they're so prideful that it would be admitting that they made a mistake.
00:32:07.000A president should say every name of a service member who was killed in the line of duty.
00:32:55.000It was completely botched with tragic consequences, has had tremendous Negative impact on our prestige and respect for America around the world.
00:33:03.000I believe in many ways has incentivized our adversaries to become aggressive, but it also led to the tragic loss of every single one of those young men and women who are so brave American heroes, whose leaders put them in harm's way and did not give them the resources to protect themselves.
00:33:17.000Senator, you deserve a lot of credit for getting Florida to become a deep red state through Miami-Dade with the Cuban community, right?
00:33:45.000It's a place of people that know how bad things can get and they're not going to allow it to happen.
00:33:50.000So, but one of the ways you've done that is building an amazing coalition with Hispanic voters.
00:33:54.000Hispanic voters are a swing demographic, more so than any other time.
00:33:59.000What are you seeing in the Hispanic community in Texas, Arizona, how it connects to what you've been able to successfully do in Florida?
00:34:04.000What I'm seeing in the Hispanic community is that they're Americans.
00:34:07.000And that their identity comes not from their ethnicity, It comes from the fact that they're a worker, they're a small business owner, they're a mother, they're a father, they're a community activist, they're involved in their church, and they're Americans.
00:34:22.000If you're Hispanic, maybe that influences where you get your news or what music you listen to on the radio, but it doesn't make you any different than anybody else in America in terms of caring about having a good job, affordable prices, safe streets, good schools, and a country that's respected.
00:34:37.000And in many ways, people that know what life is like in another country will never take this one for granted.
00:34:42.000Senator, you are an amazing advocate for the America First agenda, and when we win, you're going to be one of the most important members of the Senate to make sure that we deliver these legislative wins.
00:34:53.000So, Senator, thank you so much for your time.
00:38:09.000I don't have that full information yet.
00:38:11.000Number two is the point you were making earlier.
00:38:13.000This is not a situation where you can just simply have, we accept full responsibility, we're making changes, blah blah blah.
00:38:23.000We need a timeline of the chain of command, what was communicated when.
00:38:29.000If some of that stuff is classified, at a minimum, members in a classified setting need to be able to get that breakdown from the agency so that we know the chain of command, we know how information was disseminated, and then who needs to be held accountable is held accountable.
00:38:47.000And if there is a process that needs to be changed, and I'll probably say it's not a process issue, probably, it's probably much more of an incompetence issue and somebody dropping the ball, and that's where you get true accountability.
00:38:57.000Last thing I will say, we have a real issue in all the agencies.
00:39:02.000None of them are responsive to Congress under the Biden-Harris administration.
00:40:42.000Nobody really wants people to get fired.
00:40:45.000But, having had to fire people myself, When you do that, everybody else in your organization tightens up.
00:40:53.000Just so we're clear though, I fired security guys before that, like, weren't professional enough and not doing their job to the crispest ability.
00:41:01.000We're talking about protecting a president here.
00:41:03.000I mean, there should be widespread firings.
00:41:05.000Every person who was on that detail that had something to do with it, other than the people who put their lives on the line and jumped towards Trump, just resign in humiliation.
00:42:20.000So look, I think it's going to be Kamala Harris.
00:42:22.000They have a money situation that they got to figure out.
00:42:24.000can accept the funds. I think what's going to happen is he's going to take the nomination,
00:42:30.000accept it, and then he's going to step down and she moves to the top of the ticket.
00:42:34.000They do their delegate thing for a new vice presidential nominee, and then they keep the
00:42:38.000money and they go. The real tragedy here is that the reason why they've been basically having a
00:42:45.000circular firing squad is not because Joe Biden's mental incapabilities, it's because they were
00:42:51.000exposed for lying and covering up Joe Biden's mental incapabilities.
00:42:56.000And so if they're going to lie about that, how can you trust them with the White House for four more years, no matter who the next person is?
00:43:02.000Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:43:03.000Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:43:06.000Thanks so much for listening and God bless.