The Charlie Kirk Show - A Church-Pike Committee the Trump Shooting? ft. Marco Rubio, Byron Donalds, Nigel Farage, Markwayne Mullin

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00:01:16.000 Joining us now is Senator Mark Wayne Mullen from the great state of Oklahoma.

00:01:20.000 Great state of Oklahoma.

00:01:21.000 We know how to play football there and we wrestle a little bit.

00:01:23.000 That's right.

00:01:24.000 And by the way, how do you feel about all of a sudden you're going to have the Oklahomans and the SEC?

00:01:29.000 What is that all about?

00:01:30.000 Only in football.

00:01:31.000 We're going to be wrestling the Big 12 still yet.

00:01:33.000 Is that right?

00:01:33.000 Yeah, because SEC doesn't have wrestling.

00:01:36.000 So I have two boys that wrestle for Oklahoma State, one that wrestles for OU.

00:01:39.000 So it's an important sport for us.

00:01:44.000 The good news, though, for all the Texas fans is they get the A&M rivalry back.

00:01:49.000 Do you guys still get Bedlam?

00:01:52.000 No, they've actually... Come on!

00:01:54.000 No, I'm not kidding.

00:01:55.000 Now, OSU offered to keep it.

00:01:59.000 OSU declined.

00:02:00.000 I wonder why.

00:02:01.000 I don't know.

00:02:03.000 I have a problem with that because I went to Oklahoma State, so I have a problem with it.

00:02:06.000 So in Stillwater, what are they like?

00:02:08.000 They win one a decade?

00:02:10.000 Maybe, but we'll do better.

00:02:12.000 We're going to get back there.

00:02:13.000 You know, I think OU is going to be humbled a little bit, maybe in the SEC.

00:02:17.000 They'll come back because they're a football program, but it could be challenged the first year.

00:02:21.000 I'm cheering for Venables, he seems like a good guy.

00:02:23.000 So Senator, we were chatting this morning, wanted to have you on the show.

00:02:27.000 You have been on this issue of the Secret Service, so there's some really disturbing new reports.

00:02:33.000 Is it correct that the Secret Service had eyes on the would-be assassin 62 minutes ahead of time?

00:02:39.000 Yes, so we got a time frame yesterday.

00:02:42.000 We got a time frame yesterday and it was very disturbing that they went back and they said that they had identified him as a point of interest.

00:02:50.000 At around 5.09.

00:02:51.000 Now mind you, the shooting took place at 6.11.

00:02:55.000 So at 5.09, which was 62 minutes prior to the shooting, they had identified him because he had a backpack and a rangefinder and he was just outside the third perimeter.

00:03:04.000 Now the question is, if you identified him, then why didn't you go make contact with him?

00:03:10.000 Because they lost contact because actually 19 minutes before the shooting took place, which was nine minutes before the president took the stage, they were actively looking for him and they couldn't find him.

00:03:22.000 Okay, now that's a huge, that's a huge lapse in security.

00:03:26.000 Well, so you've done this type of work though, is that correct?

00:03:29.000 Yes.

00:03:30.000 And setting up the perimeters is pretty simple, right?

00:03:32.000 You have three rings.

00:03:34.000 The outer perimeter is typically protected by what we call local police.

00:03:39.000 They'll be uniformed police officers.

00:03:40.000 You have some undercover, but local police officers, sheriffs and stuff.

00:03:44.000 The inner perimeter will be a lot more tight security.

00:03:46.000 That's where you go through and get your bags checked.

00:03:48.000 That's where they're checking vehicles, right?

00:03:51.000 that's going to be your SWAT team, uniform, and military presence. Your inner

00:03:56.000 one, which is called the inner diamond, that's the secret service. Those

00:04:00.000 are the guys that jumped on President Trump. But who's responsible for all of

00:04:03.000 it, of making sure the perimeter, making sure the inner perimeter, the third

00:04:07.000 perimeter, and the inside, that's the secret service. They're responsible for

00:04:10.000 the whole project. And someone felled on two different cases, right?

00:04:15.000 They failed when they identified the building because they actually said they identified the building at 150 yards as a point of concern because it had a direct line of sight to the President.

00:04:25.000 What they didn't say on the call we had with the Secret Service is if that building was supposed to be protected.

00:04:33.000 If you had it as a point of interest, someone should have been on that building.

00:04:37.000 That doesn't mean on top, but making sure that someone wasn't able to climb up the building.

00:04:40.000 But Senator, I just gotta, so this is, so many failures like this in a row, it just deteriorates faith in these institutions.

00:04:49.000 No drone support, no helicopter support, and did they not have counter snipers that were also seeing a guy army crawl on a roof?

00:04:56.000 It's not like Gotham City where you gotta have 500 roofs.

00:04:58.000 There's six of them in Butler, Pennsylvania.

00:05:00.000 Look, you and I have been around President Trump and his security.

00:05:03.000 They got pretty laxed.

00:05:04.000 They got to the point where they were getting... Complacent.

00:05:06.000 Yes, complacent.

00:05:07.000 And the worst thing you can do when you're doing protective service work or you're doing advanced work is being complacent, thinking, oh, we got this, we're okay.

00:05:15.000 The minute you let your guard down and you're not going through your checklist, you're making assumptions instead of planning for the worst, you're going to allow stuff like this to happen.

00:05:23.000 There were so many failure points at this point.

00:05:25.000 We need to start having questions.

00:05:26.000 Who was the AIC, the agent in charge?

00:05:29.000 Did the agent in charge ask specific questions?

00:05:31.000 I need more resources.

00:05:32.000 Did the Secret Service understand the circumstances they were following?

00:05:36.000 Did the local police have correct coordination?

00:05:39.000 Was there somebody that was supposed to be on that building that left?

00:05:42.000 Was there a deputy?

00:05:43.000 Was there law enforcement?

00:05:45.000 And they didn't do that?

00:05:47.000 Did they actually make contact and decide the guy wasn't a point of interest?

00:05:51.000 Did they make contact in releasing?

00:05:53.000 I mean, if someone's walking around with a rangefinder and there's no golf course there, there's a problem.

00:05:58.000 There's other questions.

00:06:00.000 He went to his car and took out a ladder?

00:06:02.000 Well, there's rumors of saying that.

00:06:05.000 That isn't what was reported to that.

00:06:06.000 The FBI said he bought a ladder at Home Depot, implying that he used his own ladder.

00:06:10.000 Right.

00:06:10.000 But he was there at 10 o'clock earlier that day, too.

00:06:14.000 So he had been at the site two times.

00:06:15.000 They identified him that he had been at the site two times, right?

00:06:18.000 He was there at 10 a.m.

00:06:19.000 the morning of the shooting.

00:06:20.000 For 70 minutes and he left and then came back around 3 o'clock.

00:06:24.000 Once again, they knew all this.

00:06:26.000 They knew the timeframe of him and they still didn't detain him.

00:06:29.000 Even if he was walking around, you don't have to detain him but you can search his backpack.

00:06:33.000 It raises more questions than we actually got answers.

00:06:37.000 And the biggest question of all, which I think you would agree with, why not Pull the president off stage if there's even a micron of a question.

00:06:47.000 All these other ones are very mechanical, yet critical and embarrassing.

00:06:51.000 And again, it's not just one problem.

00:06:53.000 We're talking about a cascade.

00:06:55.000 It's either this was a Black Swan event of a thousand failures or something darker that I don't even want to entertain.

00:07:01.000 I don't want to go down the conspiracy thing because we need to actually do the investigation and find out where it leads.

00:07:08.000 Not pulling the president off stage is weird.

00:07:10.000 And see, if you've got a principal that you have a problem, this is what contingency plans is all about.

00:07:14.000 You always have A, B, and C contingency plans.

00:07:16.000 You've got a principal that's on stage, you have contingency plans to get him off because as a person protecting you, you have a detail that's with you, and if we're protecting you, the goal is to protect you from harassment, embarrassment, and death.

00:07:30.000 Right?

00:07:30.000 Harassment can come in multiple forms and embarrassment can come in multiple forms.

00:07:33.000 So maybe you don't want to rush on stage and pull you off, but the contingency plan would be on his teleprompter.

00:07:38.000 You prop up and it says, hey, we're having a technical difficulty.

00:07:41.000 That's a signal to the president that, hey, we need to get you off the stage.

00:07:45.000 And he's been trained or notified, hey, you ever see that, you go.

00:07:48.000 You got to get, well, we got to get you off the stage.

00:07:50.000 He can just turn around and walk off and says, guys, we have technical difficulties.

00:07:52.000 I'll be back.

00:07:53.000 They had this guy, they were looking for him for nine minutes.

00:07:58.000 Not for 19 minutes, I'm sorry.

00:08:00.000 The president had been on stage for 10 minutes before the shooting took place.

00:08:02.000 So can I interrupt you?

00:08:04.000 In Secret Service protocol, I'm sure we'll learn, who makes the call to pull him off stage?

00:08:08.000 AIC.

00:08:08.000 The agent in charge makes that call, 100%.

00:08:10.000 So it is theoretical, we don't know this, that other agents were suggesting it and it got vetoed.

00:08:15.000 Could have been.

00:08:16.000 The AIC, you have a shift lead, typically, which is number two in charge.

00:08:21.000 If the shift lead was informing the AIC, hey, we need to pull the president, the AIC makes the ultimate call.

00:08:27.000 No one's going to make the call without the AIC giving full orders unless he goes down, which in this case, obviously, no one went down except President Trump and the firefighter.

00:08:36.000 And also, praise God, That not more people died, but it's just a terrible thing that occurred.

00:08:40.000 Should have never happened.

00:08:41.000 And he died the right way, protecting his daughter.

00:08:43.000 Protecting his family.

00:08:44.000 Dying on top of his family.

00:08:45.000 That's the way that we all hope we go, right?

00:08:46.000 That's the way, that's what we're supposed to do.

00:08:48.000 If we're to go, it's to, you know, die protecting the ones you love.

00:08:51.000 Absolutely.

00:08:51.000 And so, let's go through process here.

00:08:54.000 I was very encouraged by Senator Barrasso and Senator Blackburn that didn't take any BS, and I don't mean any...

00:09:02.000 Well, I don't like her, but I want to get her name correct.

00:09:06.000 Cheetle, right?

00:09:07.000 They went and confronted her.

00:09:08.000 She didn't seem very interested in taking their questions.

00:09:11.000 No.

00:09:11.000 Well, she was avoiding our questions yesterday, too.

00:09:14.000 I think the questions that we had yesterday, they must have been pre-set because only five people got asked questions at the end of the call 20 minutes early.

00:09:21.000 Um, it's the accountability that we see from this entire administration.

00:09:24.000 No one has ever been held accountable.

00:09:27.000 I mean, you've seen disaster decisions after disaster decision.

00:09:29.000 Yeah.

00:09:30.000 Afghanistan, no one's been held accountable for it. 0.99

00:09:32.000 Uh, and no one, and if, if, if, if this wasn't such an outcry of such a disgrace to what happened here, no one be held accountable accountable here too, but there will be people accountable.

00:09:41.000 We will get to the bottom of it.

00:09:42.000 We'll have to go through the process of the investigation.

00:09:46.000 It's just how forthcoming are they going to be?

00:09:48.000 And right now they're not being forthcoming.

00:09:49.000 Last question here, Senator.

00:09:50.000 The investigation.

00:09:51.000 Do we mean your guys' investigation or the FBI's investigation?

00:09:55.000 Not the FBI's investigation.

00:09:57.000 The FBI has proven themselves not worthy.

00:09:59.000 Director Wray, we can't depend on them.

00:10:02.000 Listen, there are some great agents in the field.

00:10:05.000 The problem is the 7th storey at Hoover Building where the head honchos of the FBI are at.

00:10:11.000 We can't depend on them and that's sad to say because the FBI has done a great job protecting us here on the homeland.

00:10:17.000 But their leadership is corrupt.

00:10:19.000 Do you think there's any appetite at all for Democrats, Republicans to form a Warren Commission or 9-11 Commission around this?

00:10:27.000 I think if the administration and the Secret Service isn't forthcoming, we would be required to do this.

00:10:34.000 It would require Schumer.

00:10:37.000 If we don't have it done before Schumer is kicked out of office, then yes.

00:10:41.000 Good point.

00:10:41.000 But we believe he's going to be kicked out of office so they're going to want to become forthcoming.

00:10:44.000 We're going to have Senator Justice and Senator Sheehy and hopefully Senator Lake and Senator Brown, hopefully.

00:10:49.000 Yeah, she he's great.

00:10:50.000 Justice is great.

00:10:51.000 Hopefully we get Bernie Reno in here too.

00:10:53.000 We get Sam Brown, who's an awesome guy.

00:10:55.000 Carrie Lake, you know. 0.99

00:10:56.000 And at that point, then you guys can run your own because I think we need a congressionally led Church and Pike Committee style investigation into this.

00:11:04.000 I agree.

00:11:06.000 If we don't admit we made problems, you're destined to do it again.

00:11:09.000 And I don't care if you're a Republican or a Democrat, when you're being protected by the Secret Service, you should know you're protected.

00:11:15.000 Unquestionably.

00:11:15.000 Senator, thank you so much.

00:11:16.000 Charlie, thank you.

00:11:17.000 And I'm a little jealous of Oklahoma.

00:11:19.000 Every one of your counties votes for Trump.

00:11:21.000 All 77.

00:11:21.000 The only state that can say that.

00:11:23.000 And he reminds me every time I talk to him.

00:11:25.000 He runs the table.

00:11:26.000 He's got that beautiful of all red.

00:11:28.000 Hey, let me tell you a real quick story.

00:11:30.000 After Trump obviously got shot, I called him the next day, right?

00:11:36.000 And typical Trump, he's a machine, he's going on 90 miles an hour.

00:11:39.000 And he makes a joke right off the bat after acknowledging that God saved his life, he goes, You know, Mark Wayne, my ears are going to look like yours now.

00:11:45.000 Because mine are all jacked up from wrestling.

00:11:47.000 That's so funny.

00:11:47.000 He goes, now they're going to be messed up like yours.

00:11:49.000 Senator, thank you so much.

00:11:50.000 Appreciate it.

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00:13:14.000 Alright everybody, now we got Cash Patel here, and then...

00:13:21.000 All right, and then we have Senator Rubio coming after this.

00:13:23.000 Cash, can we trust the FBI to investigate President Trump getting shot?

00:13:26.000 No, absolutely not.

00:13:27.000 I think you know the answer to that.

00:13:29.000 And I basically outlined a map asking the Speaker to step in and create a select committee of private and public individuals.

00:13:35.000 It's on outkick.com.

00:13:37.000 And I said, look, if you need investigators, there's great private ones, there's great public ones.

00:13:40.000 You need to enforce the public will, issue subpoenas, enforce those subpoenas, demand the documentation, not Give it to the American public in six months.

00:13:49.000 Give it to them on a rolling basis.

00:13:51.000 And I told him I'd go running for free if he wants, but we can't have the FBI and DOJ running anything.

00:13:55.000 So Cash, what do you think happened?

00:13:59.000 And you have some experience in looking into government malfeasance.

00:14:03.000 What is your theory as to what happened?

00:14:05.000 So look, I'm the guy that's going to tell you I'm not going to speculate.

00:14:08.000 I know the guys on the detail personally.

00:14:10.000 I've traveled with them.

00:14:10.000 I've done over 50 trips with the president, in office, out of office.

00:14:14.000 There is a monumental mechanical failure here.

00:14:16.000 And I don't know if it was one lapse or multiple lapses.

00:14:19.000 And that's why America, to bring the country together behind Donald Trump, needs the truth as to what actually happened on that day.

00:14:26.000 And that's not going to come from the FBI or DOJ.

00:14:27.000 It's not going to come from outside analysts.

00:14:29.000 It's going to come from when you interview every single witness in open door.

00:14:33.000 Every single interview must be supported by documentation, the memos.

00:14:36.000 We got a big battle as to whether or not there was an augmentation request for Trump years, or excuse me, months before, and the Secret Service has said no.

00:14:44.000 I believe the Secret Service director is lying, and I have proof that I think we can get, but Congress needs to act and show us those materials.

00:14:52.000 Do you think that a special commission would satisfy this, or a special committee?

00:14:57.000 I think a special committee could satisfy it.

00:14:59.000 It depends on, you know, are we going to set it up like the unselect committee of January 6th, or are we going to do a righteous blue ribbon commission like 9-11, or the House Intel Select Committee that did Russiagate?

00:15:10.000 So Cash, now looking at this election moving forward, looks like Joe Biden will not be the nominee.

00:15:15.000 It'll be Kamala Harris.

00:15:17.000 Obama has issued that decree, ex-Cathedra.

00:15:21.000 What is your reaction to that?

00:15:22.000 Well look, I've been saying for about two years that Biden wasn't going to be the nominee.

00:15:25.000 And as soon as the missteps started to happen, then the physical missteps started to happen, then the mainstream media started to come in.

00:15:31.000 And now everybody that said they would always support Joe Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, The Democratic Party, the mainstream media, Joe Scarborough and all those guys are now calling for his resignation.

00:15:40.000 So it's happening.

00:15:41.000 What are you working on?

00:15:42.000 How can people support you, Cash?

00:15:43.000 Yeah, look, my movie's premiering down the street at 2 p.m.

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00:15:57.000 Cash, come back on soon.

00:15:58.000 Thanks, man.

00:15:59.000 This is not Senator Marco Rubio, for the record.

00:16:01.000 This is not Senator Marco Rubio.

00:16:03.000 It is Nigel Farage.

00:16:05.000 Thank you.

00:16:06.000 Nigel, you are amazing.

00:16:08.000 90 days ago, you had no such plans to run for anything.

00:16:12.000 Is that correct?

00:16:13.000 Well, I did 20 years in the European Parliament.

00:16:15.000 I fought for Brexit.

00:16:17.000 I fought against globalism.

00:16:18.000 I'd retired!

00:16:20.000 But I just, I don't know, a few weeks ago I thought I've got to do something.

00:16:23.000 So I stood a rebel movement against, I mean, basically our Conservative Party are like your rhinos.

00:16:30.000 Oh, they're worse than that.

00:16:31.000 They probably are worse than that.

00:16:33.000 I thought, right, the rebellion starts here.

00:16:35.000 Yes.

00:16:35.000 And we've made a start.

00:16:36.000 So tell us what that looked like.

00:16:38.000 Labour, unfortunately, was able to form a government.

00:16:41.000 Yeah.

00:16:42.000 Rather significantly.

00:16:43.000 Yeah.

00:16:43.000 But the buried lead is your vote total.

00:16:46.000 Your actual raw vote total was significant.

00:16:49.000 Yeah, I mean, we've got, you know, more than half the votes of a Conservative Party that's been around for 200 years.

00:16:54.000 And we've done it in the space of a few weeks.

00:16:56.000 And do you know what?

00:16:57.000 We actually stand for something.

00:16:59.000 We believe in borders.

00:17:00.000 We believe in the family, community, the country.

00:17:03.000 We believe in the Judeo-Christian roots of our civilization.

00:17:07.000 So we've won.

00:17:07.000 We've got five seats in Parliament.

00:17:10.000 If it was proportional, we'd have a hundred seats.

00:17:12.000 Yeah, so why isn't it?

00:17:13.000 Your system is foreign to me.

00:17:15.000 We need a bit more reform, but we've made a start.

00:17:18.000 Reform UK is there, and I'm going to reconfigure... It doesn't sound like a democracy to me.

00:17:23.000 Well, it's a very flawed system, but I tell you what, we're going to reconfigure the centre right of British politics the way that people like you and Donald Trump have done so here.

00:17:33.000 And so, let's go now back to American politics.

00:17:35.000 Nigel, what a week.

00:17:36.000 Where were you when you found out that Donald Trump, your friend, was shot?

00:17:39.000 I was in a car.

00:17:40.000 I'd been to a dinner.

00:17:41.000 I'd spoken at a dinner.

00:17:42.000 I was in a car.

00:17:44.000 Phone call came through.

00:17:45.000 I was absolutely sick to the bottom of my stomach.

00:17:48.000 I couldn't believe it.

00:17:50.000 And now I've seen the 3D image of his head turning, the bullet.

00:17:54.000 Two bullets?

00:17:54.000 I mean, it's unbelievable.

00:17:56.000 It's just unbelievable.

00:17:57.000 I believe it was divine providence.

00:17:58.000 I really do.

00:17:58.000 Well, I tell you what.

00:18:00.000 I had a near-death experience 15 years ago.

00:18:02.000 Did you really?

00:18:03.000 In a plane crash.

00:18:04.000 I thought that was it.

00:18:05.000 I was smashed to pieces.

00:18:07.000 And you know what?

00:18:08.000 There are powers greater than we understand.

00:18:11.000 What did the near-death experience do to you?

00:18:13.000 It made me quite emotional for the first few weeks.

00:18:16.000 Do you think that President Trump might be dealing with that?

00:18:19.000 I think you'll see on the stage tonight a slightly different man.

00:18:23.000 Not wholly different, slightly different.

00:18:25.000 But better, different in maybe a good way.

00:18:27.000 Do you know what?

00:18:28.000 When you think you're going to die or you come close to it, you're very grateful just to be here.

00:18:32.000 I think we'll see that tonight and I also think we'll see a healing Trump who can bring together America and win this election big time.

00:18:42.000 I pray you're right, Nigel, and the Democrat Party in this country is currently in shambles.

00:18:49.000 It's different than labor in your country.

00:18:52.000 Joe Biden looks increasingly as if he will not be the nominee.

00:18:56.000 You have a very prescient, clairvoyant take on American politics because you're not in it, so you can look at it as an outsider.

00:19:03.000 Do you think anybody can stop this movement right now?

00:19:06.000 No, I don't.

00:19:07.000 I don't think it matters.

00:19:08.000 I mean, the fact they've had Biden there for all this time, they've hidden him away.

00:19:13.000 What I can't work out, by the way, if his son and wife love him, why are they allowing him to be put through elder abuse?

00:19:20.000 Because frankly, that's what it is.

00:19:23.000 And I, it doesn't matter who they pick, there is momentum behind the movement, there is momentum behind Trump.

00:19:30.000 And do you know something?

00:19:31.000 That image, close to death, covered in blood, and he stands there and does that, that shows you the instinctive courage the man has got.

00:19:41.000 No, nothing will stop Trump.

00:19:43.000 And just this image, I want to dwell on that.

00:19:45.000 You guys can put up cut 75, I think, on screen.

00:19:48.000 What do you see when you look at this image?

00:19:50.000 This will go down as one of the great iconic photographs and visuals in human history.

00:19:56.000 Well, Iwo Jima, of course, is that amazing image after the huge losses that the Americans took.

00:20:01.000 And you've got that statue in Washington, D.C.

00:20:04.000 But Iwo Jima was staged.

00:20:06.000 This wasn't staged.

00:20:07.000 That's a phenomenal point.

00:20:09.000 This is raw courage.

00:20:11.000 It's raw courage, and good leaders have courage.

00:20:15.000 And I believe, Charlie, and I mean this, I think Trump is the bravest man I've ever met in my life.

00:20:21.000 Just so you know, we're going to raise money at the Turning Point headquarters and build the first statue for this.

00:20:26.000 What a good idea.

00:20:27.000 I'll contribute.

00:20:28.000 If I'm allowed as a foreigner, I'll contribute.

00:20:30.000 After we win, we'll contribute.

00:20:32.000 Wouldn't you guys love to go visit the first statue to this?

00:20:36.000 Isn't that a great idea?

00:20:38.000 Like in Iwo Jima, we'll cut one or two of the guards out, right?

00:20:42.000 But Donald Trump rising after being shot.

00:20:44.000 That is such a profound point.

00:20:46.000 This was not staged.

00:20:47.000 But the media... Joy Reid has actually suggested that it was staged.

00:20:51.000 Despicable person.

00:20:52.000 Nigel, what is next for you?

00:20:54.000 I don't understand your system.

00:20:56.000 When does Parliament meet?

00:20:57.000 I'm sure you guys have meetings.

00:20:58.000 Well, yesterday morning I was with... The King came and read out the... You were in...

00:21:03.000 Britain yesterday.

00:21:04.000 I was in, I was in, I listened to the King yesterday morning, I was here yesterday afternoon, and you know what?

00:21:10.000 I came because somebody I regard as a friend of mine came very close to death, and I've come to show solidarity.

00:21:16.000 Have you seen him?

00:21:16.000 No, I'm going to see him later on this evening.

00:21:18.000 Yeah, I hope, I don't know if they have you scheduled to speak or not, or what, but he really respects you.

00:21:23.000 Nigel Farage and Donald Trump were the ones that saw 2016 coming, and I think you both see 2024 coming too.

00:21:29.000 Nigel, thank you so much.

00:21:30.000 Charlie, thank you, thank you everybody.

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00:22:29.000 Now, Senator Marco Rubio is on.

00:22:33.000 Senator, great to have you.

00:22:34.000 You got a fan club here, Senator.

00:22:35.000 And you got sparks, you got the whole thing.

00:22:36.000 Senator, welcome to the program.

00:22:37.000 You gave a wonderful address.

00:22:38.000 One of the best of the convention.

00:22:50.000 What is your thought on this convention?

00:22:51.000 We were talking about this off camera.

00:22:53.000 The unity, the stories, it's just remarkable.

00:22:55.000 I mean, I think there's three things that come to me in this convention.

00:22:59.000 This is my fifth that I've been at.

00:23:00.000 It's by far the best for three reasons.

00:23:02.000 Number one is the enthusiasm.

00:23:04.000 You know, at every convention, obviously, people are going to wave flags, signs, and all that.

00:23:07.000 But this is legitimate enthusiasm.

00:23:09.000 The second, I think it's reflecting a transformation of the Republican Party, which I think is phenomenal.

00:23:14.000 And it isn't by abandoning principles.

00:23:16.000 We've actually become the party that's trying to connect what government does to how people live.

00:23:21.000 Real world stuff.

00:23:21.000 Real life stuff.

00:23:22.000 So I think those two factors are incredibly important.

00:23:24.000 And the third is the talent.

00:23:26.000 I mean, we have, in this week alone, probably seen 150 people on that stage that are better than anyone the Democrats are going to have at their convention.

00:23:34.000 And just think about it.

00:23:35.000 I mean, from yourself to Dr. Carson, Vivek Ramaswamy, obviously J.D.

00:23:38.000 Vance, I mean, Don Jr.

00:23:40.000 It's an all-star cast up there.

00:23:42.000 Yeah, we just have very talented people.

00:23:43.000 We've become the party of talented people.

00:23:45.000 And I think that's really important that we're able to attract people that come from such varied backgrounds, have some differences of views, by the way, on maybe this issue or that issue.

00:23:55.000 But they found their home in this party.

00:23:57.000 And that's a transformation that I think is going to bear fruit for the next 25 years.

00:24:01.000 And so, Senator, I want to just take a step back here.

00:24:04.000 This could have been one of the saddest conventions in American history.

00:24:11.000 Where were you on Saturday when you heard the news?

00:24:13.000 I was in Miami and I was actually watching it live on television.

00:24:17.000 And, you know, when you saw it, You try to your mind can't process it because it's so foreign to anything you've ever seen.

00:24:23.000 And it sounded maybe somebody set off some fireworks, maybe some something, you know, sparked up on the stage because I could see the president react to it.

00:24:30.000 But as you come to the realization of what's happened, the first thing that flashed across my mind was, if this is the worst case scenario, this is going to tear this country apart.

00:24:39.000 Like, I don't even know there would have been a convention this week.

00:24:42.000 What would have happened to America?

00:24:43.000 Because that's the point that we have reached.

00:24:45.000 And then I think you start as you people start talking about we got to lower the tone in American politics.

00:24:49.000 I agree.

00:24:50.000 I don't think we should call anybody Hitler.

00:24:51.000 I don't think we should call anybody a future dictator.

00:24:54.000 I think people should be able to vibrantly disagree about public policy.

00:24:58.000 But ultimately, the reason why we do all of this in politics, it's not for politics, it's for people.

00:25:03.000 This is about what do our people need and want in America?

00:25:06.000 And what can we do to help deliver that?

00:25:08.000 And there'll be differences of opinion about how to do that.

00:25:10.000 But that's what we should be focused on.

00:25:12.000 You know, that's what I think the president will talk about tonight.

00:25:14.000 That's the only place we're going to find unity, is finding ways to speak for what the people want and delivering.

00:25:20.000 Not just talking about it, but doing it.

00:25:21.000 And J.D.

00:25:22.000 Vance gave a great address last evening.

00:25:24.000 Wasn't J.D.

00:25:25.000 great?

00:25:26.000 It's not about abstractions, it's about real-life implications.

00:25:31.000 You've seen the Republican Party change in the last decade over this, and you wrote a whole book about that.

00:25:35.000 This is a different philosophical approach to a convention that we would have saw a decade ago.

00:25:40.000 Well, and I don't want to get too deep in the weeds on it.

00:25:42.000 I think J.D.

00:25:42.000 says some very similar things about this as well.

00:25:45.000 But at the end of the Cold War, right, it looked like, OK, we're the only power in the world.

00:25:48.000 We can do whatever we want.

00:25:49.000 Everyone's going to become a democracy and we're going to become this global economy.

00:25:53.000 And it made a lot of people rich.

00:25:54.000 Let there be no doubt.

00:25:55.000 The global economy made a lot of people rich.

00:25:58.000 It also did this.

00:25:59.000 It took a lot of American, good American jobs and sent them to other countries because labor was cheaper there.

00:26:04.000 It left behind a lot of broken communities.

00:26:07.000 Gutted communities.

00:26:07.000 Gutted.

00:26:09.000 And I think the lesson to take away from the last 20 years is that we are not a market.

00:26:12.000 We are a country.

00:26:13.000 We have a market.

00:26:15.000 And the market is a way that we do a tool that we use to serve the country.

00:26:19.000 And so I do support the free market.

00:26:21.000 But what do you do when the free market outcome is bad for America?

00:26:24.000 Because it is cheaper.

00:26:26.000 It is more efficient to make medicine in China.

00:26:28.000 It is not good for America to depend on China for our medicine.

00:26:31.000 And those are the things that no one was asking about before.

00:26:34.000 I think it's forced a lot of people in American politics to re-evaluate it from that standpoint, and you start to realize we need to have an industrial capacity in our country, or you're not just going to leave our country vulnerable.

00:26:44.000 You're going to leave a lot of Americans permanently behind. 0.89

00:26:47.000 So a question I have is that within the delegates, 95% would agree with what you just said.

00:26:53.000 President Trump does, the platform.

00:26:55.000 In the U.S.

00:26:56.000 Senate, in the conversations you're having, the robust discussions and debate, do you see that your viewpoint is growing and having more momentum with members?

00:27:04.000 And it's growing, but it's a process.

00:27:04.000 No, it's growing.

00:27:06.000 Yeah, it's growing, but it's a process.

00:27:09.000 And it's a process because you have to understand for a lot of people who came of age in American politics, by the way, people say Reagan wasn't, Reagan actually was more aligned to this than people think he was.

00:27:18.000 But it's a growing process because if you came of age in American politics from 2000 to 2010, 90 to 2010, you know, the dominant theory in the Republican Party was, you know, unfettered market, irrespective of the impact on America.

00:27:34.000 And so I think it's really only been since about 2014, especially with Trump in 2015, that orthodoxy started to get challenged.

00:27:42.000 But what's happening now is that the people getting elected are a product of that way of thinking.

00:27:47.000 And so it begins to change the Senate.

00:27:49.000 It's most certainly already changed the House.

00:27:51.000 So I think from now moving forward, the trend line in the Republican Senate is going to increasingly reflect these views, because that's who voters are electing.

00:28:00.000 And eventually there needs to be a mirror between the voters and those people who are actually representing them.

00:28:05.000 Hopefully, or else the system is unsustainable.

00:28:08.000 Exactly.

00:28:08.000 If your political class does not respond and is completely out of touch with people, that's not sustainable.

00:28:15.000 By the way, it's not just happening in America.

00:28:16.000 It's happening in every Western industrialized economy in the world, where everyday people being left behind by globalization are pushing back against the Not just a unique American phenomenon.

00:28:26.000 It's happening everywhere.

00:28:27.000 I also see a positive attitude shift in the Republican Party.

00:28:30.000 And I saw it on display yesterday in something that I don't think I ever would have saw.

00:28:34.000 Senator Barrasso, who I think is wonderful, and Senator Blackburn, they were not happy with the Secret Service director.

00:28:40.000 In fact, they kept on walking with them through the halls because of the outrage.

00:28:44.000 I don't know if we would have saw that a decade ago.

00:28:46.000 They would have just kind of sent a letter and said, we'll hear back in a couple weeks.

00:28:49.000 There's a passion and an energy and a zeal now from Senate leadership saying, no, no, no, you respond to us.

00:28:57.000 The Secret Service, we have legislative oversight over you.

00:29:00.000 I think the worst part about what we've seen with them is that I believe that in the future people will point to how the Secret Service has handled this in the aftermath and say, that's how you do not handle.

00:29:09.000 There should have been daily press conferences.

00:29:09.000 The aftermath.

00:29:12.000 We should not be finding out things about this from leaks here and videos posted online.

00:29:17.000 They need to be transparent with the American people because we came to the edge of a cataclysm, not just for Republicans.

00:29:22.000 Obviously, it would have been tragic for the country.

00:29:24.000 For all of Western civilization.

00:29:26.000 I mean, this kid was not some ninja.

00:29:27.000 I mean, you can see this guy's not some highly trained operative.

00:29:30.000 I mean, and he climbed on a roof.

00:29:31.000 They saw him there an hour before.

00:29:33.000 They knew there was a threat.

00:29:35.000 A hundred and something, less than 200 yards away.

00:29:37.000 Which is just about from here to the Trade Hotel.

00:29:39.000 Yes.

00:29:40.000 How could that have never should have happened?

00:29:41.000 And then the question is, who's responsible for that breakdown?

00:29:44.000 And more importantly, does this point to a broader problem in the Secret Service?

00:29:48.000 But the way you address that is through full transparency.

00:29:50.000 People deserve to know that these agencies are working.

00:29:53.000 And the fact that they refuse to still divulge enough.

00:29:56.000 Is is leaving people increasingly doubtful that they can police themselves?

00:30:00.000 And this is a topic that's difficult to wrestle with, but it's important.

00:30:03.000 There seems to be a pattern of institutions we once trusted that are failing the mandate.

00:30:08.000 They tell the CDC, FDA, FBI, the Afghanistan withdrawal.

00:30:14.000 That is a major topic to tackle.

00:30:16.000 If we are blessed to have President Trump win in November, how do we restore faith in these institutions?

00:30:23.000 It's more than personnel.

00:30:24.000 It's culture.

00:30:25.000 It's direction.

00:30:26.000 It's purpose.

00:30:27.000 Well, the best way to restore faith in institutions is for them to do what they're supposed to do again.

00:30:31.000 For them to actually work.

00:30:32.000 For them to actually function the way they're supposed to function.

00:30:35.000 The best way to destroy faith in institutions is for them to become arrogant and out of

00:30:39.000 touch and act like they are smarter than the people they're supposed to serve.

00:30:43.000 And that's the attitude you see from a lot of these agencies is, we know what's best

00:30:47.000 for you.

00:30:48.000 We will even lie to you the way maybe you'll tell your kids, you know, something when they're

00:30:53.000 growing up, you know, to get them to do good behavior.

00:30:55.000 They treat us like children as a country.

00:30:57.000 They did it during COVID.

00:30:58.000 They're doing it now with this whole attempted assassination.

00:31:02.000 And you repeatedly say that matter.

00:31:03.000 And Afghanistan.

00:31:04.000 And Afghanistan.

00:31:05.000 Well, the Afghanistan thing was one of the most humiliating moments in American history. 1.00

00:31:09.000 And no one was fired.

00:31:10.000 No one's ever been held accountable.

00:31:12.000 Ultimately, the Commander-in-Chief is accountable for what happened in Afghanistan and entirely predictable.

00:31:17.000 They lie when they say that that was not predictable.

00:31:20.000 That was a predictable situation.

00:31:21.000 Humiliation.

00:31:22.000 And worst of all, they kept like 90, 80, 90 billion dollars worth of our equipment.

00:31:26.000 We left them $90 billion worth of our equipment, and we have images around the world of people hanging off the wings of a C-130 as it's evacuating.

00:31:34.000 And it was not a coincidence to me that a few months later, Putin says, oh my God, let's go into Ukraine right now.

00:31:41.000 And by the way, how powerful was that to have all those Gold Star families last evening?

00:31:45.000 Powerful and tragic.

00:31:47.000 And tragic.

00:31:48.000 You know what was so hard for me to watch?

00:31:50.000 They have not healed.

00:31:52.000 And you could tell that there's like this open thing being like, can you just say my son's name?

00:31:56.000 Yeah.

00:31:57.000 It's tragic.

00:31:58.000 It's tragic.

00:31:59.000 And at the same time, I think it reveals that one of the reasons why they don't want to say their name is because they're so prideful that it would be admitting that they made a mistake.

00:32:07.000 A president should say every name of a service member who was killed in the line of duty.

00:32:10.000 Period.

00:32:11.000 By the way, they died at the hands of ISIS that were completely wiped out when Trump was in office.

00:32:15.000 And they were gone.

00:32:16.000 They reemerged.

00:32:16.000 And they've now reemerged.

00:32:17.000 They're smuggling terrorists into America. 0.53

00:32:19.000 And we must remember the preconditions for that.

00:32:22.000 It was near the end of this botched withdrawal as the temperature was being raised.

00:32:26.000 It was like day three or four, and we were all warning domestically, this is a disaster, this is bad.

00:32:32.000 And it was right at a checkpoint near the airport where these Marines were just left out to dry.

00:32:37.000 They were left out to dry and frankly, we were counting on the Taliban to be our security. 0.97

00:32:43.000 We were counting on the Taliban. 0.99

00:32:45.000 The administration was saying, we're working with the Taliban to secure.

00:32:48.000 So you're working with the Taliban to secure us? 0.72

00:32:51.000 And you saw how well that played out.

00:32:54.000 It was a complete disaster.

00:32:55.000 It was completely botched with tragic consequences, has had tremendous Negative impact on our prestige and respect for America around the world.

00:33:03.000 I believe in many ways has incentivized our adversaries to become aggressive, but it also led to the tragic loss of every single one of those young men and women who are so brave American heroes, whose leaders put them in harm's way and did not give them the resources to protect themselves.

00:33:17.000 Senator, you deserve a lot of credit for getting Florida to become a deep red state through Miami-Dade with the Cuban community, right? 1.00

00:33:25.000 Amazing.

00:33:26.000 Do you know how awesome it is that we really don't have to do a campaign in Florida very much?

00:33:30.000 That those 30 electoral votes, I don't want to take it for granted, but it looks good, Senator.

00:33:34.000 Yeah, it does.

00:33:35.000 That's because we've always been a place that people come to to get away from Marxism and leftism.

00:33:40.000 Now they used to come from other countries, now they're coming from other states to get away from Marxism.

00:33:44.000 But they're coming to Florida.

00:33:45.000 It's a place of people that know how bad things can get and they're not going to allow it to happen.

00:33:50.000 So, but one of the ways you've done that is building an amazing coalition with Hispanic voters.

00:33:54.000 Hispanic voters are a swing demographic, more so than any other time.

00:33:59.000 What are you seeing in the Hispanic community in Texas, Arizona, how it connects to what you've been able to successfully do in Florida?

00:34:04.000 What I'm seeing in the Hispanic community is that they're Americans.

00:34:07.000 And that their identity comes not from their ethnicity, It comes from the fact that they're a worker, they're a small business owner, they're a mother, they're a father, they're a community activist, they're involved in their church, and they're Americans.

00:34:17.000 And their identity comes from that.

00:34:19.000 And that's what we have forgotten.

00:34:22.000 If you're Hispanic, maybe that influences where you get your news or what music you listen to on the radio, but it doesn't make you any different than anybody else in America in terms of caring about having a good job, affordable prices, safe streets, good schools, and a country that's respected.

00:34:37.000 And in many ways, people that know what life is like in another country will never take this one for granted.

00:34:42.000 Senator, you are an amazing advocate for the America First agenda, and when we win, you're going to be one of the most important members of the Senate to make sure that we deliver these legislative wins.

00:34:53.000 So, Senator, thank you so much for your time.

00:34:55.000 God bless you, man.

00:34:56.000 Thank you.

00:34:56.000 Give it up for Senator Marco Rubio, everybody!

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00:37:06.000 Yeah.

00:37:06.000 Charlie, you know who that is, right?

00:37:08.000 I was saying hello to him.

00:37:09.000 So when we were in Detroit, and we went to that black church, it is that gentleman's church that we were at in Detroit.

00:37:15.000 He came by earlier.

00:37:16.000 Oh, he did?

00:37:17.000 Yeah.

00:37:18.000 Oh, so I'm telling you something you already know.

00:37:20.000 I was distracted, so I didn't...

00:37:22.000 Say hi like I should have.

00:37:25.000 How you doing?

00:37:26.000 Good, man.

00:37:26.000 I'm doing good.

00:37:27.000 It's been a great week.

00:37:29.000 Byron, you're on House Oversight, is that right?

00:37:31.000 I am.

00:37:32.000 What we have here is a looming constitutional issue of who's actually in charge.

00:37:36.000 The Secret Service thinks they are their own independent agency with no congressional oversight.

00:37:42.000 And we need every single potential eyewitness or agent to be subpoenaed and brought in front of Congress and interviewed.

00:37:49.000 First of all, we had to threaten a subpoena for Kim Cheetah to show up in committee on Monday. 0.99

00:37:56.000 We wanted to just get the information.

00:37:58.000 Chairman Cuomo was prepared to issue a subpoena when that was made aware.

00:38:02.000 She's coming in on Monday to testify, or at a minimum, just have open dialogue with the members of Oversight.

00:38:07.000 I think it might be an open hearing.

00:38:09.000 I don't have that full information yet.

00:38:11.000 Number two is the point you were making earlier.

00:38:13.000 This is not a situation where you can just simply have, we accept full responsibility, we're making changes, blah blah blah.

00:38:23.000 We need a timeline of the chain of command, what was communicated when.

00:38:29.000 If some of that stuff is classified, at a minimum, members in a classified setting need to be able to get that breakdown from the agency so that we know the chain of command, we know how information was disseminated, and then who needs to be held accountable is held accountable.

00:38:47.000 And if there is a process that needs to be changed, and I'll probably say it's not a process issue, probably, it's probably much more of an incompetence issue and somebody dropping the ball, and that's where you get true accountability.

00:38:57.000 Last thing I will say, we have a real issue in all the agencies.

00:39:02.000 None of them are responsive to Congress under the Biden-Harris administration.

00:39:06.000 They stonewall all the time. 1.00

00:39:08.000 So this is the modus operandi of this administration.

00:39:11.000 And number two, the political brass is rotten.

00:39:14.000 And we got to have a clean out of the political brass in Washington, D.C.

00:39:17.000 So the facts that we see around this are really bad so far.

00:39:21.000 They're really, really, really bad.

00:39:23.000 And we're talking about an hour ahead of time.

00:39:24.000 They knew that this guy was walking out of the range finder and a backpack that they lost.

00:39:29.000 They lost eyes on him 10 minutes before they still let Donald Trump come on stage.

00:39:32.000 They didn't pull Donald Trump off stage.

00:39:34.000 He was just crawling on a roof and the snipers didn't see him.

00:39:38.000 No drones, no helicopter support, not securing the roof.

00:39:40.000 They knew that the roof was a potential threat.

00:39:42.000 This is a really disturbing pattern.

00:39:44.000 That we are seeing.

00:39:46.000 How do we hold accountable?

00:39:48.000 What does that look like?

00:39:49.000 The Homan Rule? 1.00

00:39:51.000 Because the Secret Service Director, she just kind of acts like, oh, Congress is just like a mosquito I have to swat away. 1.00

00:39:57.000 Yeah, well, first of all, this is where presidential leadership is required.

00:40:01.000 Because this one in particular, but every other crisis that's happened under Joe Biden's administration, nobody's ever fired.

00:40:08.000 Nobody's ever let go.

00:40:09.000 So if nobody's ever fired, and you're somebody else within the bureaucracy, you know you're not getting fired.

00:40:15.000 So the number one thing you do is you cover up, you stonewall, you obfuscate, you hide information. 0.99

00:40:21.000 Um, and maybe other things like that.

00:40:23.000 You leak to try to push the blame onto somebody else.

00:40:26.000 So the number one accountability is somebody has to get fired.

00:40:29.000 Call it what it is.

00:40:30.000 Somebody dropped the ball.

00:40:32.000 They need to go.

00:40:32.000 Kim Cheadle, you're in charge.

00:40:35.000 You need to go, quite frankly.

00:40:37.000 And that's when this accountability measures really start to get into place.

00:40:40.000 Nobody wants people to get fired.

00:40:41.000 Let me say this.

00:40:42.000 Nobody really wants people to get fired.

00:40:45.000 But, having had to fire people myself, When you do that, everybody else in your organization tightens up.

00:40:53.000 Just so we're clear though, I fired security guys before that, like, weren't professional enough and not doing their job to the crispest ability.

00:41:01.000 We're talking about protecting a president here.

00:41:02.000 Yes.

00:41:03.000 I mean, there should be widespread firings.

00:41:05.000 Every person who was on that detail that had something to do with it, other than the people who put their lives on the line and jumped towards Trump, just resign in humiliation.

00:41:12.000 Where's your pride?

00:41:14.000 I mean, seriously, you just allowed a president to get shot and you still want to get a salary and a pension?

00:41:19.000 I wouldn't be able to live with myself.

00:41:20.000 I'd say, you know, I'm done.

00:41:21.000 I'm gonna go find a different line of work.

00:41:23.000 Byron, they're trying to slow walk this investigation.

00:41:26.000 They're not being transparent.

00:41:28.000 But what are they potentially hiding here?

00:41:32.000 That's the part where I don't want to speculate.

00:41:34.000 And that's why I want to make sure that we have the questions for her when she comes in on Monday.

00:41:39.000 And I will tell you... If she answers them.

00:41:41.000 Talk to some of my Democrat colleagues.

00:41:43.000 They want answers to this as well because obviously this is a shooting attempt of President Trump.

00:41:48.000 But we have former presidents that are living.

00:41:51.000 If there are real issues at Secret Service, it puts them all at risk.

00:41:55.000 Not just them, the families of presidential families.

00:41:58.000 It puts them at risk.

00:41:59.000 Vice Presidents, etc.

00:42:01.000 So this is something where members on both sides of the aisle want to get to the bottom of this.

00:42:04.000 That's promising.

00:42:06.000 But I don't want to speculate because I think the speculation is irresponsible.

00:42:09.000 We need concrete information.

00:42:11.000 Byron, thank you for all that you do.

00:42:13.000 Looks like Joe Biden is not going to be the nominee.

00:42:15.000 Yeah.

00:42:16.000 It's increasingly that way.

00:42:17.000 This race is about to reset.

00:42:19.000 Yes.

00:42:20.000 So look, I think it's going to be Kamala Harris.

00:42:22.000 They have a money situation that they got to figure out.

00:42:24.000 can accept the funds. I think what's going to happen is he's going to take the nomination,

00:42:30.000 accept it, and then he's going to step down and she moves to the top of the ticket.

00:42:34.000 They do their delegate thing for a new vice presidential nominee, and then they keep the

00:42:38.000 money and they go. The real tragedy here is that the reason why they've been basically having a

00:42:45.000 circular firing squad is not because Joe Biden's mental incapabilities, it's because they were

00:42:51.000 exposed for lying and covering up Joe Biden's mental incapabilities.

00:42:56.000 And so if they're going to lie about that, how can you trust them with the White House for four more years, no matter who the next person is?

00:43:02.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:43:03.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:43:06.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - July 18, 2024

A Church-Pike Committee the Trump Shooting? ft. Marco Rubio, Byron Donalds, Nigel Farage, Markwayne Mullin

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