Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Darren Beattie from Revolver News joins us to talk about TikTok and the color revolution happening in Israel, and then we have Robert Barnes of Barnes Law joins to talk Trump indictments, is there an insurrection happening in Nashville, and finally, we talk about reparations.
00:00:00.000Today on the Charlie Kirk show, Darren Beattie from Revolver.news joins us to talk about the TikTok pill and also a color revolution happening in Israel.
00:00:46.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:18.000But first, I just want to get your thoughts on this Restrict Act that we've been talking about that more Republicans than Democrats are sponsoring.
00:01:26.000And I just want to remind our audience what Republicans are sponsoring this.
00:01:29.000John Boozman from Arkansas, Mike Crapo from Idaho, Lindsey Graham from South Carolina, Tom Tillis from North Carolina, Chuck Grassley from Iowa, Kevin Kramer from North Dakota, Shelley Moorcapito from West Virginia, Mitt Romney from Utah, Susan Collins from Maine, Dan Sullivan from Alaska, Jerry Moran from Kansas, Deb Fisher from Nebraska, and John Thune from South Dakota.
00:01:54.000Darren, your thoughts on the Restrict Act?
00:01:57.000Well, when you have a bill that's supported by Lindsey Graham, Tom Tillis, and Mitt Romney, you know you're in for a beauty, as they say.
00:02:08.000The Restrict Act, what can we say about it?
00:02:11.000Well, first thing to know is that it's a Trojan horse type bill.
00:02:16.000What it's being packaged as is some kind of way to counteract the nefarious foreign communist-infused influence of TikTok, which is a natural sell.
00:02:31.000But what it actually is, is a Trojan horse and amounts effectively.
00:02:36.000I think the best description of it that I've heard is the Patriot Act for the Internet.
00:02:42.000Even though the marketing is specifically tailored to TikTok, something that we all love to hate, the actual substance of the bill is very vague and it is no way limited to TikTok.
00:02:55.000It's vaguely constrained to technologies associated with quote-unquote foreign adversaries, a flexible term that can be defined in any way that the Commerce Department wants it to be defined in, according to the vague language of the bill.
00:03:14.000And I think the contextual view here, the bird's eye view, what we need to understand about this is in an era of unprecedented, dangerous politicization of the national security state, we need to be especially wary of granting the national security state enhanced, unprecedented.
00:03:41.000But the thing is, it's such a great marketing ploipe.
00:03:46.000They take advantage of people's natural and entirely justified concern with and really revulsion toward Chinese influence and especially things like TikTok.
00:04:00.000And they say, look at all of these, look at all these bad things going on with TikTok and use that as a pretext, ironically, it's a dark irony, but use that as a pretext to impose internet restrictions that actually make us a lot more like China.
00:04:19.000And there's one other point that I think is worth noting: the timing is interesting.
00:04:25.000Again, you'll have all of these politicians, none of whom who will speak up and speak out about the treatment of the January 6 prisoners, none of whom will speak out again about hot-button issues that directly affect the well-being of Americans.
00:04:43.000And all of a sudden, they're the incredible Hulk when it comes to beating down TikTok.
00:04:49.000It's almost as though this is the rare occasion that the regime gives them permission to, you know, let your hair down a little bit.
00:04:57.000Now, you know, you're neutered 99% of the time.
00:05:01.000Here's the 1% where you get to play act as though you're actually tough and able to do something because they'll go on all day about TikTok, but really it seems to be a consolation prize for the fact that they're entirely impotent when it comes to reining in the power and abuses of American tech companies such as Google, such as Facebook, such as Twitter, even after the improvements instituted by Elon.
00:05:29.000Overwhelmingly, the chief threat to American freedom on the internet and the chief manipulation impacting Americans' ability to process information happens through these American tech companies such as Google.
00:05:49.000They're so deeply integrated into the security state.
00:05:52.000As we learn over and over through the Twitter files revelations, these politicians are totally helpless in light of American big tech companies.
00:06:02.000And so all they can do is impotently point their fingers at TikTok.
00:06:07.000And to make matters worse, they're doing that in order to push forth a bill that would actually further restrict freedoms on the internet for American citizens.
00:06:20.000And all the while, during an era in which the national security state has proved most aggressive in politically attacking Americans.
00:06:31.000I'm at a place now, Darren, where I cynically do not think it's possible to ban TikTok without also getting something awful alongside of it.
00:06:41.000It's just we do not have the political precision.
00:06:45.000We do not have the, in my opinion, experts that I trust.
00:06:50.000And so I begrudgingly am at the place where I'd rather have to live with TikTok still existing than getting this Leviathan while quote unquote banning TikTok.
00:07:01.000And hilariously, Darren, you read the bill, there's no guarantee that TikTok would actually get banned.
00:07:18.000And then they'll say, oh, no, just kidding, but Telegram we're going to ban because a lot of right-wingers use it and there's a Russian owner, right?
00:07:23.000Rumble, we're going to ban because it was founded in Canada.
00:07:26.000Twitter, we're going to ban because the Saudis invested and Elon runs it, right?
00:07:31.000So I think we're in harmony there, Darren.
00:07:33.000I hate to be so cynical about things, but the last bastion of our ability to challenge tyranny are some of these platforms, right?
00:07:42.000A free and open internet right now doesn't quite exist as it used to, but there's still little, you know, getter, Twitter, Telegram, Revolver.
00:07:51.000They would love nothing more than to be able to use the power of the state to restrict us.
00:07:55.000And that's literally the name of the bill.
00:07:57.000All right, Darren, shifting gears for a second here.
00:08:00.000Israel is in bedlam right now, but you're arguing that you think a color revolution is underway.
00:08:07.000First, remind our audience what a color revolution is.
00:08:10.000And are you arguing this is the central intelligence agency?
00:08:16.000Not necessarily, no, but I think what you see, which is amazing, I suggest everyone, if you haven't seen it, go look at some of the footage.
00:08:25.000It's a big deal what's going on in Israel.
00:08:29.000And you have mass demonstrations in the streets.
00:08:32.000You have all the hallmark of what's termed color revolution, which refers to the mass mobilization of various interest groups, huge demonstrations in the streets.
00:08:44.000You can, you know, the paradigmatic examples are the Eastern European color revolutions, Ukraine color revolution, but you can also think of the mass demonstrations of, say, Black Lives Matter in the United States, which are organized according to the same principles.
00:08:59.000And you see something resembling this very closely in Israel.
00:09:08.000And I don't know how deep of a dive we want to do, but there's so many layers to this because the kind of superficial layer is, you know, there's just like we have, you know, here in the United States, you know, people don't know this, but before Revolver, before the White House, before being an academic, I worked for two years for the great Robert Bork, who was really a seminal figure.
00:09:37.000He should have been on the Supreme Court.
00:09:40.000And one of his big issues was counteracting this problem of judicial activism.
00:09:46.000And even back then, which is now a much longer time ago than I care to even think about or express, even back then, as bad as things were in the United States, Israel had an extremely pronounced problem with judicial activism, left-wing activism basically being implemented through the court system.
00:10:09.000And so Bibi and his allies have attempted to curtail the issue of sort of what they consider to be unjust, out-of-bounds encroachment of the judiciary through enhancing powers of the parliament.
00:10:28.000And this has, you know, naturally excited many different groups that are favorable to the left-wing side in Israel.
00:10:36.000And so the superficial version of the clash is this question of the role of the judiciary versus parliament.
00:10:44.000There's an underlying tension there that I think is profound and has even to some degree shaped the political contours of the West more broadly.
00:10:57.000And that is the antagonism between Bibi, Netanyahu, and Ehud Barak.
00:11:08.000And they just represent very different factions politically.
00:11:14.000Ehud Barak sort of aligned with the left, and the left, the left faction of the national security state, similarly in America, is most closely associated with the color revolution methodology of regime change.
00:11:30.000In the United States, you see this Atlanticist faction that happens to be particularly obsessed with Russia and Europe and very closely aligned with this constellation of human rights NGOs.
00:11:46.000And one of its central figures would be somebody like George Soros, who Has a very kind of strange relationship with Israel, certainly deeply hostile to somebody like Netanyahu.
00:12:02.000And Netanyahu's sort of right-wing group and the Likud is sort of in some sense, you know, internationalized.
00:12:14.000It's made alliances with various sort of nationalist movements throughout the West.
00:12:20.000And so, in some way, the clash going on in Israel recapitulates the larger clash between sort of the nationalists and the left between people like the late Sheldon Adelson and maybe somebody like George Soros at the sort of oligarch level.
00:12:47.000And then within the national security state, it recapitulates the factions within it, of one side being the sort of Atlanticist color revolution faction that's very much opposed to populist nationalist movements and has even appropriated the color revolution methodology in order to undermine nationalist regimes in the same way that they would a foreign adversary,
00:13:14.000including they've turned those tools inward, as I've been talking about for a long time.
00:13:20.000And so it might, in a certain way, it's a localized political conflict in a country that's not America.
00:13:28.000So it can seem, well, this isn't that important.
00:13:30.000There are some sort of analogies just on that political level to what's happening here because the judicial activism problem and so forth.
00:13:39.000But I think the deeper significance of it is this factional aspect whereby sort of Bibi and his opposition within Israel sort of again recapitulate the dominant antagonisms politically that have shaped the Western political world for you know close to the past decade.
00:14:06.000In closing here, do you think that elements of a color revolution strategy are currently at play domestically here in America?
00:14:17.000I mean, you see it intensify at periods and sort of wane in other periods.
00:14:23.000It certainly intensifies around any presidential election season.
00:14:28.000In the United States, it typically takes the form of some kind of George Floyd type situation, a BLM type situation.
00:14:36.000And going all the way back to the time of the Trayvon Martin incident under Obama, arguably even before that, but it really intensified there.
00:14:47.000People noticed the pattern: well, something like this tends to happen leading up to an important election, and there are mass mobilized protests, and they seem to come out of nowhere and then kind of disappear just as conveniently.
00:15:05.000So that capacity to mobilize mass groups on a dime and then turn off the spigot more or less at will, although there is interesting blowback.
00:15:21.000It can get out of hand, even from the standpoint of the people who organize it.
00:15:25.000But more or less, I'd say the BLM version of mass protest is the American manifestation of the color revolution model that we've deployed in a variety of foreign theaters.
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00:17:06.000So, Robert, I want to start by, you know, beginning to dive into here the issue that I think many people are concerned about in so many different ways, which is, well, actually, I want to start on a different one.
00:17:36.000And they wouldn't do that in a lot of county capitals across the state.
00:17:40.000They would do it in the state capitol because that's Nashville that's trying to emulate itself on being the next Austin, Texas, unfortunately.
00:17:47.000Someone should run for mayor there on a platform of purging the commies that are trying to take over the city.
00:17:52.000But basically, you have, I mean, this is just David Hogg, astro turf, getting a bunch of young kids to believe something that's utter nonsense and taking sort of left-wing activism.
00:18:03.000It's fascinating how when the left takes over a capital, it's part of democracy.
00:18:09.000But if somebody on the right simply walks in following security guards, they end up in a gulag in D.C.
00:18:16.000So the extraordinary contradiction, living contradiction of how people are treated based on their method of protest continues to show up on a day-to-day basis.
00:18:26.000And this is just the latest iteration of it.
00:18:29.000Yeah, we have a video here of a bunch of teenagers actually pushing police officers and struggling with them and assaulting police officers.
00:18:37.000I don't think they're going to be put into solitary confinement, put into a gulag, have a special committee impaneled and having the entire FBI go after them.
00:18:47.000I venture a guess the FBI will do nothing now that the Nashville State Capitol is being stormed.
00:19:06.000But where I'm at currently, I do not think there is a way to ban TikTok without also making the beast more powerful than ever.
00:19:12.000That's a sad reality, but you got to live in reality.
00:19:15.000Robert, talk about the constitutionality or the unconstitutionality of the Restrict Act.
00:19:20.000The Restrict Act is simply Patriot Act 2.0, disguised as an effort to regulate and restrict TikTok in China that has very little to do with TikTok or China and will instead criminalize the ability of ordinary everyday Americans to independently access the sources they want online.
00:19:38.000It even has a provision for 20 years in federal prison if you use a VPN.
00:19:44.000People use VPNs to protect their anonymity.
00:19:46.000People use VPNs to be able to access servers around the world of various independent news sites.
00:19:53.000People in China use VPNs to be able to get outside the Chinese system.
00:19:57.000We're basically imposing, our answer to China's TikTok is to impose China's system of global surveillance on our own domestic population and limitation on internet access.
00:20:07.000That's exactly the wrong approach is to replicate the Chinese approach.
00:20:11.000If they're serious about punishing and limiting TikTok, there is a constitutional way to do so.
00:20:18.000Simply allow ordinary Americans to sue the Chinese government, which has all kinds of resources in the United States, including buying up a lot of farmland, to sue the Chinese government for invading privacy, for trying to do all this social political harm on our young people, including inducing suicides and all kinds of horrific things that TikTok has already been sued for doing in different capacities.
00:20:41.000But right now, under U.S. law, you can't sue the Chinese government for it.
00:20:47.000So what we should do is empower ordinary juries to be able to hold the Chinese government responsible for their illicit activity, not replicate the Chinese model with the Restrict Act by restricting Americans' freedoms and Americans' liberties.
00:21:14.000They're trying to get other people to falsely testify against Trump on something above and beyond the Stormy Daniels case.
00:21:20.000The problem with the Stormy Daniels case is, first, Trump committed no crime.
00:21:23.000You're allowed to contribute however much you want to your own campaign, if that's the allegation, when the evidence is it had nothing to do with the campaign.
00:21:31.000It's not like people didn't know that Trump was Trump in certain respects.
00:21:35.000He wasn't running for pastor or Sunday school teacher.
00:21:38.000He was running for president, as Jerry Falwell long described about Ronald Reagan, who also didn't have necessarily a perfect ideal personal life in some respects.
00:21:50.000Problem two is, of course, violates statute limitations.
00:21:52.000Problem three is it appears the prosecutor violated due process rules in what was allowed to be presented to the grand jury.
00:21:58.000So my guess is he is second-guessing his own decision to move forward.
00:22:01.000Trump did a good job saying, look, this nutjob wants to indict me.
00:22:05.000And that caused a public backlash that led the prosecutor to second guess his own actions because the professionals in his own office, a bunch of lefties, by the way, said, hold on a second, this looks a little insane even for us.
00:22:17.000So my guess is he's searching and seeking for something else, some little tax charge, something else he can tag on, even though there'll be no factual grounds for it, no legal basis for it, a clear political weaponization in violation of the selected prosecution prohibitions of the Constitution.
00:22:34.000It's not going to stop him because the left is so absorbed with the idea of indicting Trump.
00:22:39.000Trump's enemies are so absorbed with the idea of indicting Trump.
00:22:42.000And this is a George Soros appointed DA.
00:22:44.000And Soros has said Trump is his number one adversary and enemy.
00:22:48.000And so I think that they are obsessed with indicting him.
00:22:58.000One of the most innocent New York City real estate developers.
00:23:00.000I mean, you're trying to tell me any New York City real estate developer with 40 years of business examined with this scrutiny, you're not going to be able to, you'll find a lot.
00:23:15.000And the best they have is a payment to Stormy Daniels that Michael Cohen actually did, was not reimbursed for, that is against no New York law.
00:23:33.000I mean, to survive in New York, I mean, the folks who controlled the construction industry for a long time in New York and now he controlled certain other industries in New York were kind of difficult people to deal with.
00:23:42.000And yet Trump somehow managed to do so.
00:24:21.000It was but made weaker when Biden was exposed to have actually committed issues, crimes with classified conduct as a vice president and senator because he did not have declassification authority, unlike President Trump, who did.
00:24:32.000So the Mar-a-Longo case was always bogus.
00:24:34.000It was more show and theater than substance.
00:24:37.000And I think they know there's nothing there.
00:24:39.000They also know there's nothing there connected to January 6th.
00:24:42.000They couldn't get anybody to even fabricate or falsify testimony.
00:25:09.000But no, you have an actual wicked witch of the West in the grand jury chair in Georgia.
00:25:15.000How do you let a case go forward with that nut?
00:25:17.000And I represented the president in Georgia.
00:25:19.000He did nothing wrong at all in Georgia.
00:25:21.000He asserted his constitutional rights and remedies, which was his prerogative and his principled role to do as president of the United States.
00:25:30.000The only question is, does a prosecutor that's so politicized bring a fake case instead?
00:25:36.000Even the media's own polls show that most Americans would reject it as being a politically motivated prosecution.
00:25:41.000So this continued effort to persecute the president, which is really an effort to go after his base of support, to go after them through him, to silence them by silencing him, has never worked with Trump, and it's not going to work ultimately.
00:25:55.000But it doesn't mean we don't all have more legal headaches to deal with in the interim.
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00:27:38.000It seems to be a group of high school kids, again, who are just proxies of the regime, who are told that their purpose in life should be activists, being activists, very unfulfilling life, have stormed the Nashville state capitol, this Tennessee state capital, I should say.
00:27:55.000And basically, have started to push, started to push back police, have started to push back the troopers there.
00:28:44.00095 shows the high school students staging an insurrection in Tennessee.
00:28:49.000You know, over a thousand people have been arrested or charged for January 6th.
00:28:52.000How many of these high school kids are going to be charged with unlawful entry, unlawful occupation, assaulting police officers, harassment?
00:29:25.000Yeah, I mean, they're acting like children because they are children, but they're being raised by adults who are also children, just screaming, enough is enough.
00:29:40.000So we've been bashing the Restrict Act that gives all this power to the federal government via the Commerce Secretary, part of the federal government.
00:29:49.000So part of this is really disturbing because the Commerce Secretary has a lot of power as well.
00:29:58.000New story out today shows that the U.S. Census Bureau or the agency under the Secretary of Commerce is debating whether or not to add a question to blacks of are you a descendant of slaves?
00:30:15.000And I am not a pessimist, but I want to be very clear that the pace that we're moving right now, you are going to live in a country where there is reparations.
00:30:30.000You're going to live in a country where white people are going to be forced to give money to black people for something you did not do, for something you are not connected to, just because you look like somebody who did something bad.
00:30:43.000So I have some very simple questions for the reparation crowd.
00:30:49.000Do white people get money because our ancestors, 600,000 of them, died in the Civil War so that blacks could be free?
00:31:32.000It is evil and Racist to ask a black to go show ID when you vote, but somehow you're going to be able to have a black show all of the paperwork that they're the descendant of slaves.
00:31:49.000So can't ask for voter ID, but somehow blacks are going to have to show that.
00:33:26.000We are quickly going into a set of policies where whites are going to have to pay money for something they did not do, for something their ancestors might not even have done, because they look like the bad thing.