The Charlie Kirk Show - A Confirmation Battle for Charlie’s Legacy

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00:01:09.000 All right, hour two, the Charlie Kirk Show is underway.

00:01:12.000 Welcome back.

00:01:14.000 So excited to have Jeremy Carl back on the show.

00:01:17.000 Welcome to the show, Jeremy Carl.

00:01:18.000 You have been nominated for Assistant Secretary of State for international organizations.

00:01:25.000 I got it.

00:01:26.000 It's a bit of a mouthful of a title, but what an honor to be nominated.

00:01:30.000 Welcome back to the show.

00:01:31.000 It's so good to see you.

00:01:32.000 How are you doing?

00:01:33.000 I'm doing great.

00:01:34.000 I had a fun time in D.C. last week, despite all the fireworks.

00:01:38.000 I truly did.

00:01:40.000 And, you know, I've just was, as I said, as you said, it was an honor to be nominated and looking forward to hopefully being able to join.

00:01:48.000 Yeah, well, so, and Blake, I mean, feel free to chime in here, but you had one of the more eventful nomination hearings that we've seen in recent memory.

00:01:58.000 And boy, did they come after you with just, I mean, it was like hyperbole.

00:02:02.000 Which you knew was going to happen.

00:02:04.000 I talked to you before that hearing and you said, like, I'm going to have to sit there and just get, you know, raked over it for a couple hours.

00:02:12.000 And that's exactly what they did.

00:02:14.000 They called you very nasty.

00:02:15.000 Every name in the book.

00:02:16.000 I mean, this, this was just, it felt like, you know what?

00:02:20.000 It felt like a throwback to like 2020 or like 2019 or something like that, 2021.

00:02:25.000 And I just was like, have, like, are we really still, like, are you still going with these paddles?

00:02:31.000 Are we going to, yeah, are we going to let them do this sort of bad faith framing of everything?

00:02:36.000 And also, as we talked about last week, that bit where they just pretend to not know what people are talking about.

00:02:41.000 So they went after you, of course, for your book, which is a great book and people should read it.

00:02:46.000 And the unprotected class, they're going to rake you over the coal because you say America has anti-white discrimination in it. 0.72

00:02:54.000 Well, it does.

00:02:55.000 They brag about it and demand more of it all the time.

00:02:58.000 But yeah, you know, what do you have to say, Jeremy, about do you still, do you still stand by this idea, Jeremy?

00:03:05.000 Yeah, thanks.

00:03:06.000 And that was actually the most, the part I was most proud of about the hearing is there's, you know, it's a high-pressure environment when you go in there.

00:03:13.000 And even if you're somebody like me who's certainly spoken in public fora on many occasions, when you have a bunch of very hostile senators controlling the microphone and saying, you know, have you no decency?

00:03:27.000 You know, how dare you have that view?

00:03:30.000 It's very easy to kind of recant or go back.

00:03:33.000 And I didn't do that at all.

00:03:34.000 I stood by my beliefs, which I certainly do believe very strongly.

00:03:40.000 And so, you know, I kept my integrity.

00:03:42.000 That was really the most important thing to me going into the hearing.

00:03:46.000 And just the sort of avalanche of positive correspondence and comments that I got afterward really convinced me that obviously, not just morally, but practically, that was the right thing to do.

00:03:57.000 All right.

00:03:57.000 Well, we definitely wanted to have you on because Charlie fought for your nomination.

00:04:02.000 He was one of the people.

00:04:03.000 You were one of the people he really wanted to get into the government.

00:04:07.000 He was very excited about it, really fought for you.

00:04:09.000 But you're facing, obviously, a ton of opposition from Democrats.

00:04:13.000 But what's been frustrating to us to hear is there's been some skepticism from one of the Republicans on the committee, Senator Curtis from Utah.

00:04:21.000 And his expressed reason was very odd to us.

00:04:25.000 He believes you were not supportive enough of America's policy towards Israel.

00:04:31.000 And he basically said you would be bad for that role because you're going to the United Nations.

00:04:35.000 Now, that's shocking to us because we know Charlie was a huge supporter of Israel and us, you know, protecting them in the Middle East.

00:04:43.000 So the floor is yours to respond to Senator Curtis's concerns.

00:04:48.000 Yeah, and I want to be first sympathetic to Senator Curtis.

00:04:51.000 I mean, I think if you were primarily viewing this from the media oppo dumps that were happening in the weeks up to the hearing and then certainly the comments the Democrats were making, you know, maybe you would be skeptical.

00:05:06.000 But I certainly would point, as you note, to Charlie's support of me.

00:05:09.000 And Charlie was really, of course, a great supporter of the U.S.-Israel relationship.

00:05:14.000 And I also, of course, worked as the right-hand man for a decade for the late Secretary of State, George Schultz, who was Ronald Reagan's Secretary of State and was also sort of second to none as a champion of the U.S.-Israel relationship.

00:05:28.000 So I'd certainly point to things like that and the fact that those two gentlemen chose to be in my corner over a number of years, Secretary Schultz and Charlie, of course, both sadly no longer with us.

00:05:40.000 But that sort of speaks to my views.

00:05:44.000 And then obviously, just personally within the UN system itself, I mean, there's no question it's a hotbed of anti-Semitism. 0.96

00:05:50.000 The focus on Israel they have there is absolutely absurd and ridiculous. 0.77

00:05:55.000 It wastes time from actual productive things that could be accomplished.

00:06:00.000 And there's no question that we are their biggest ally in that system where they often don't have other allies.

00:06:07.000 And we, just like any other close ally we have, we have to be very supportive of them in that context.

00:06:13.000 And I would certainly just say that not just because of Senator Curtis, but I would have said it if I could have gotten more than two words edgewise in the hearing itself.

00:06:22.000 Well, by the way, I mean, much has been made.

00:06:25.000 You grew up Jewish, apparently, but it's also, it doesn't mean that you don't have critiques of the status quo relationship or the way that money flows or any of that stuff.

00:06:36.000 All of that stuff is on the table, but to say, you know, you are broadly supportive of that ally and of that relationship, their right to exist, their right to defend themselves.

00:06:45.000 So I don't know what the, even what the to-do was about, to be perfectly honest.

00:06:49.000 It's like, yeah, you can have critiques without basically saying, hey, we need to blow up this whole relationship or something.

00:06:55.000 No, that's right.

00:06:56.000 And I mean, there's, I mean, I had a huge amount of support very publicly on the eve of the hearing and afterwards from prominent members of the pro-Israel community.

00:07:05.000 All of our UN ambassadors were supportive.

00:07:09.000 The global envoy we have for addressing anti-Semitism issues was supportive.

00:07:15.000 So that's there.

00:07:16.000 I have at times said some things that were critical of some sub-aspect of it, but none of that really impinges on what we're doing in the UN.

00:07:26.000 There's no question that for the actual job that I would be put in, if I'm confirmed by the Senate, that I would be forswear for every element of the U.S.-Israel alliance.

00:07:38.000 This is not a tough question.

00:07:40.000 It's not a close call.

00:07:42.000 It's really obvious that, frankly, the behavior toward Israel in the UN system is egregious, and we should be fully supportive of them in that context. 1.00

00:07:51.000 It's been so galling to me to see this happen because we have to have all these Democrats on stage posturing about this when they're the party that's allied with Mamdani. 0.72

00:08:00.000 They're the party that has people routinely demanding boycotts who are routinely saying like their own there's one big villain in the Middle East.

00:08:07.000 Genocide Word of course.

00:08:10.000 And they're endlessly using this as part of their wider front, as you're well aware, that they attack Israel basically because they see it as Western, because they see it as European, because they see it as they code it as white, as we say. 0.75

00:08:24.000 And as we see, this administration is standing up for those things.

00:08:27.000 That's why Secretary of State Marco Rubio, we were just touting his speech in Munich where he says, we are going to confidently stand for Western civilization.

00:08:36.000 And we have to be doing that at the UN.

00:08:39.000 And you're one of Charlie and President Trump's picked men to do that at the UN.

00:08:43.000 Yeah.

00:08:43.000 And so, Jeremy, your view on it right now is you have a sympathetic view towards Senator Curtis.

00:08:52.000 We got 30 seconds in this last segment.

00:08:54.000 Are we hopeful?

00:08:55.000 Are you meeting with him?

00:08:56.000 Is there any news there?

00:08:57.000 I'm hopeful.

00:08:58.000 I mean, obviously, the hearing just happened.

00:09:00.000 I've got, I don't want to sort of name names because the process is going on, but I've got some senators who are very strongly in my corner and who I think would love to make a meeting happen so that I could sort of clarify a bit more of my background and interests and in these sorts of issues to Senator Curtis.

00:09:21.000 I really do feel like if he gives me a little bit of time to speak with him, I think he'd be very reassured in this area.

00:09:27.000 So I hope to get the chance to do just that.

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00:10:46.000 So Jeremy Carl is with us.

00:10:48.000 He obviously was a version of the Salem witch trials at the Senate for Democrat counterparts there.

00:10:57.000 So you didn't get to talk about the substance of the actual job and what makes you competent, which is, I think, the whole point.

00:11:04.000 They wanted to distract from the fact that you are one of the most articulate, competent, I would say, defenders of American values, of President Trump's platform, his foreign policy.

00:11:16.000 They didn't want you to talk about any of that.

00:11:18.000 So, you know, the floor is now yours, Jeremy.

00:11:22.000 Why do you want this job and what do you hope to accomplish?

00:11:26.000 Yeah, thanks so much.

00:11:27.000 And I was actually at the beginning of this process, which was further back than any of you would probably believe, even if I told you, I was given a choice of a few different portfolios that I might have had and really, after thinking about it a little bit, chose this one as a place where I could really make an impact.

00:11:45.000 Because look, the United Nations and certainly many other international organizations have been a longtime source of frustration to those of us who are America first, to those of us who believe in American sovereignty.

00:11:56.000 I mean, there's no question that as President Trump has said, they have great potential, but they have not lived up to that potential.

00:12:03.000 But I think there's a lot of things that we could be doing, need to be doing in these bodies.

00:12:08.000 There's sort of a horseshoe effect, I think, a little bit here, where the people who are sort of most opposed to the UN and the United States and the people who are actually inside the UN kind of want the same thing, which is to have a bunch of shop talk and not really a lot of useful concrete action on the things that the UN should be doing, which really primarily should focus around keeping the peace and certainly not being a global government.

00:12:32.000 What I want to do is have the UN do a limited set of things and actually do them effectively and advance U.S. interests in them.

00:12:39.000 So that means we want to be countering China and Chinese influence everywhere we can. 0.99

00:12:43.000 We want to be in the standards bodies and making sure we elect Americans in those standards bodies.

00:12:49.000 There's 56 different, I believe, standards bodies within the UN system, ranging from the International Atomic Energy Agency to the International Telecommunications Union.

00:12:59.000 People don't necessarily think about them in the U.S. that much, but they actually end up often having enormous influence on what we do.

00:13:06.000 So you start with things like that.

00:13:08.000 You start with the U.S.-Israel relationship, which I talked about there, and we need to be very good protectors of Israel and other allies.

00:13:15.000 And there's really just, you know, it's a huge organization.

00:13:19.000 There's so many different moving parts.

00:13:22.000 But I think aggressively moving on issues of U.S. sovereignty, trying to stop the migration abuse that we've seen that has led to open borders throughout the world, which is often enabled by the UN system.

00:13:36.000 Those would be kind of the priorities that I have if I'm confirmed for the job, which of course I didn't get to talk about during the hearing.

00:13:44.000 You know, there was that powerful moment in Secretary Rubio's speech where he says the UN has the ability to do a lot of good.

00:13:51.000 It could be a tool for good.

00:13:53.000 And then he goes through the list of instances where it actually was useless, but it took American might.

00:14:00.000 It took B-2 bombers in Iran.

00:14:02.000 It took special forces in Venezuela.

00:14:04.000 You know, it took those European partners coming together along with the U.S. to even get peace negotiations, a discussion to even begin between Ukraine and Russia.

00:14:15.000 What did you make of Secretary Rubio's speech?

00:14:18.000 And what are you pulling out?

00:14:20.000 What are the through lines that you're pulling out from that moment?

00:14:22.000 Yeah.

00:14:23.000 I mean, well, first of all, I'm glad you mentioned it was an absolutely terrific speech.

00:14:26.000 I'm not just saying that because he may be my boss at some point in the near future, but I thought it was outstanding.

00:14:33.000 I thought it did a great job of having a really hopeful vision and also really stressing the importance of American sovereignty and American power at the same time.

00:14:42.000 I thought the critique of the UN was right on, and it really gets to what I was just saying earlier, which is, well, okay, is the UN going to just sit there and be a place that talks shop and doesn't actually get anything done?

00:14:56.000 If I were in the UN, that wouldn't really strike me as something that would be enhancing my power and credibility.

00:15:02.000 And so what I want to do is to have, hopefully be able to effectuate under U.S. leadership some internal reforms so that we can act in places like Venezuela and we're not just sort of hamstrung by these infinitely kind of back and forth processes that are all just about virtue signaling.

00:15:22.000 Yeah, it's really great to emphasize this because it's already bad enough.

00:15:26.000 People might be asking, why are we having this hearing about you?

00:15:28.000 It's because you were nominated way back last spring and then the Senate's taken a while on a lot of nominees and thankfully they resubmitted you again.

00:15:37.000 The White House has really stood by you and that's one reason it's so important to get you in.

00:15:41.000 Admirably stood by their people, even where they faced some bad faith opposition.

00:15:47.000 And I want to make sure we get to this.

00:15:49.000 So, especially if you are in Utah, we want you to call Senator Curtis's offices.

00:15:55.000 Respectfully.

00:15:55.000 Respectfully, be Jeremy didn't know we were doing this.

00:15:58.000 Don't flip out.

00:15:59.000 Don't badmouth him.

00:16:01.000 Don't say anything nasty.

00:16:02.000 Just say, especially, call him regardless, but especially if you're in Utah, give him a call.

00:16:06.000 His DC office is 202-224-5251.

00:16:13.000 Let's repeat that for the podcast people: 202-224-5251.

00:16:20.000 Say you're calling your Utah voter if you're from there, and you say, I'm calling about Jeremy Carl's nomination to be Assistant Secretary of State for international organizations.

00:16:32.000 Mention that he was one of Charlie's favorites.

00:16:36.000 He really wanted him in that post, and you want the senator to honor Charlie.

00:16:40.000 I want to underscore, be respectful, respectful.

00:16:43.000 And I also want to underscore that Jeremy didn't know we were doing this.

00:16:45.000 So I just plan this.

00:16:48.000 I've got this.

00:16:50.000 Please know this could backfire, Jeremy, if handled poorly.

00:16:53.000 So just be very respectful to the senator.

00:16:56.000 And, you know, I'm still hopeful because, Jeremy, I know you're a man of great charm and whimsy.

00:17:02.000 And I know that.

00:17:03.000 But I'm hoping I can.

00:17:05.000 And, you know, I'm glad also you mentioned the degree to which the White House has stood by me, which I really appreciate.

00:17:10.000 I mean, all of this stuff that did come out came out since my initial nomination.

00:17:15.000 And some of it was kind of known, or at least it was out there.

00:17:17.000 So it wasn't a surprise.

00:17:19.000 Others of it, you know, sort of surfaced for the first time.

00:17:22.000 And the White House took all of that into account and just said, you know, hey, this is still our guy.

00:17:27.000 It doesn't change our view of him.

00:17:29.000 We know that he's a really strong guy and will be good in this.

00:17:32.000 And I'm just, you know, incredibly appreciative of the support of President Trump and Secretary Rubio to really stand strong at a time when a lot of others would have folded.

00:17:41.000 Yeah, well, and listen, the viewpoints that the Democrats were hitting you with, you know, whether that interchange you had with Corey Booker was hilarious to me.

00:17:50.000 He's like, really?

00:17:50.000 You believed that, you know, you held your ground?

00:17:53.000 But it was just amazing to me that this was like shocking to them.

00:17:56.000 These are down the middle, completely mainstream conservative beliefs that you hold.

00:18:03.000 And the more that they're going to try and gaslight the public in thinking that mainstream conservative beliefs, by the way, proven, we've got a billion clips that prove all of these positions, you know, whatever.

00:18:15.000 The fact that they're still trying to act surprised about them at this point, Jeremy, is really, that's why I said I felt like I was in 2021, 2019, something like that, 2014 even.

00:18:24.000 What's your final message?

00:18:26.000 Well, my final message, I think, is that I would love to have the opportunity to serve the president and the country in this role.

00:18:34.000 I really appreciate the support of you guys.

00:18:37.000 I mean, Charlie was such a huge, huge loss just personally, professionally.

00:18:42.000 But I love the fact that you guys are carrying on his legacy and really appreciative of your support now and over the years.

00:18:49.000 Absolutely.

00:18:50.000 Jeremy Carl, we have your back.

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00:20:54.000 Sean Davis, co-founder, CEO of the Federalists, good man, joins us now.

00:21:01.000 Sean, welcome back, my friend.

00:21:03.000 Good to see you.

00:21:03.000 Good to be back.

00:21:04.000 Thanks for having me.

00:21:05.000 So we have to start here.

00:21:07.000 We just found out that Robert Duvall died, who is an iconic American actor, kind of old Hollywood, and just, I think he was a winger.

00:21:16.000 Yeah, he was.

00:21:17.000 Yeah.

00:21:18.000 He was supporting McCain back in 2008.

00:21:21.000 But with him, okay.

00:21:23.000 Is it a sliding scale?

00:21:25.000 Well, I mean, he got old.

00:21:26.000 I think he was probably just less prominent because he was.

00:21:29.000 Well, he died at 95.

00:21:30.000 I mean, he lived a good long life.

00:21:32.000 And some of the most iconic clips, you have one pulled up, right?

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00:21:36.000 We have that ready to go.

00:21:37.000 Let's make sure we have that number.

00:21:39.000 All right.

00:21:40.000 I say you have a clip ready.

00:21:42.000 Well, yeah, so let's do 298.

00:22:05.000 Nothing else in the world smells like that.

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00:22:27.000 Smell!

00:22:27.000 You know that gasoline smell?

00:22:30.000 Oh, hell smells like victory.

00:22:38.000 I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

00:22:40.000 Sean, I don't know if you saw the news, but if you have any thoughts on Robert Duvall, feel free.

00:22:45.000 Yeah, so my favorite role of his, it wasn't on the big screen, it was in the TV mini-series of Lonesome Dove, which I think is the greatest American novel ever written.

00:22:55.000 And he played Gus McRae.

00:22:57.000 I think it's one of the greatest roles he ever played.

00:22:59.000 It's one of the greatest characters ever written, and he was just spectacular.

00:23:03.000 He's a great role in my personal favorite film.

00:23:07.000 At least I used to always say this.

00:23:09.000 I'd have to rewatch it.

00:23:10.000 It's been a while, but Thank You for Smoking.

00:23:12.000 Oh, yeah.

00:23:12.000 The movie about the tobacco lobbyist.

00:23:14.000 He's the tobacco baron.

00:23:16.000 Oh, interesting.

00:23:16.000 He tells you how to make a perfect mint and julep, taught to him by Fidel Castro.

00:23:21.000 All the obviously the Godfather series, Open Range, little appreciated movie of his, Days of Thunder, which is where Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman met and ended up getting married.

00:23:34.000 But Rubin's racing, son, because Tom Cruise is complaining that they keep bumping his car.

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00:23:41.000 They didn't hit you.

00:23:42.000 They're rubbing you.

00:23:43.000 Rubbin's racing.

00:23:44.000 Anyways, so many good movies.

00:23:46.000 John Q, The Great Santini, Jack Reacher, The Apostle.

00:23:51.000 This guy is legitimately one of just the most, I mean, he's got movies in the 70s with Clinton Eastwood, The Network.

00:24:01.000 I mean, he played Bobby Lee and Gods and Generals.

00:24:04.000 Yeah, okay.

00:24:04.000 I didn't see that.

00:24:06.000 Secondhand.

00:24:06.000 I forgot about Days of Thunder, which is the second greatest racing movie ever made after Talladega Knights ballot Ricky Bobby.

00:24:13.000 Yeah, well, of course.

00:24:14.000 Everybody knows this.

00:24:15.000 And you're a southern gentleman at this point, Sean, so you can appreciate it.

00:24:19.000 I'm actually supposed to go to my first NASCAR race in March, I think.

00:24:24.000 Maybe I've got that mistaken.

00:24:25.000 Anyway, I've never been, but a lot of people love it.

00:24:28.000 A lot of people are saying.

00:24:29.000 All right, that's not why we had you on, but the news just broke.

00:24:32.000 And, you know, I love lifting up actually a talented actor that didn't disgrace himself, that died of natural causes.

00:24:39.000 There wasn't some crazy story involved.

00:24:41.000 So, you know, God bless him.

00:24:44.000 God bless you.

00:24:45.000 He loved this country.

00:24:46.000 He did.

00:24:46.000 He's a real American.

00:24:49.000 What I wanted to bring in.

00:24:51.000 Sorry, I'm still getting over something.

00:24:52.000 I need all-family pharmacy to help me out here.

00:24:55.000 So what I wanted to get in here, Sean, is there was a couple of clips that I couldn't help noticing and drawing a pattern.

00:25:02.000 First one up, let's just start with Obama because he went on this podcast, made a little bit of news.

00:25:07.000 242.

00:25:08.000 The same would be true, let's say, here in Los Angeles around the homeless issue.

00:25:13.000 The average person doesn't want to have to navigate around a tent city in the middle of downtown. 1.00

00:25:22.000 And that we're not going to be able to build a working majority and support for the resources that we need to help folks like that.

00:25:33.000 We're not going to be able to generate support for it if we simply say, you know what, it's not their fault.

00:25:39.000 And so they should be able to do whatever they want.

00:25:41.000 Because that's a losing political strategy.

00:25:46.000 Okay, so my ears perked up when I heard that.

00:25:48.000 But then I heard another clip, Sean, from Hildebeast, 241.

00:25:55.000 I think we need to call it for what it is.

00:25:58.000 There is a legitimate reason to have a debate about things like migration.

00:26:03.000 It went too far.

00:26:05.000 It's been disruptive and destabilizing.

00:26:08.000 And it needs to be fixed in a humane way with secure borders that don't torture and kill people.

00:26:15.000 And she even, Sean, you noticed she was doing the thumb thing, the Clinton thumb point. 0.68

00:26:20.000 So I really, yeah, my ears perked up.

00:26:23.000 And then it all came together.

00:26:24.000 It all crystallized with Andy Bashir, the touted, renowned moderate from Kentucky.

00:26:32.000 PlayCut 240.

00:26:33.000 How do you respond to a Democratic voter who might say, I like you.

00:26:37.000 I like your track record in a red state or red commonwealth, but you're too soft-spoken.

00:26:42.000 Yes, that message is working.

00:26:43.000 Look at Abigail Spanberger and Mikey Sherrill, who ran great campaigns in races that should have been structurally difficult.

00:26:51.000 And they both won by double digits.

00:26:53.000 The DGA and our candidates are winning everywhere.

00:26:56.000 Many Americans feel like the pendulum swung too far during the Biden administration, and it swung way too far during the Trump administration.

00:27:04.000 And what they want is an America where they can wake up every morning and not be worried about its future.

00:27:10.000 Ah, so, okay.

00:27:12.000 So Virginia is the model. 0.72

00:27:15.000 Sean, you know all about Virginia and you know all about Spamberger.

00:27:19.000 What are you gleaning from that series of clips we just played?

00:27:23.000 Yeah, it's fascinating to watch, especially all of them together.

00:27:26.000 To me, it's obvious what they're doing.

00:27:28.000 And they understand these Democrats.

00:27:31.000 They understand they cannot get elected saying the things that they believe.

00:27:36.000 So now there's a long campaign to get them to say things that they don't believe but that sound good in the hopes that they can get elected and then not do any of those things.

00:27:44.000 So you have Obama talking about dealing with the homeless problem.

00:27:48.000 Democrats don't care about dealing with the homeless problem.

00:27:51.000 But you have to say that because people are sick of it. 0.81

00:27:53.000 They don't like being accosted by crazy drug addicts on the street.

00:27:56.000 So yeah, we'll pretend to care about that.

00:27:58.000 With Hillary, you have to pretend to care about the borders because that sounds sane.

00:28:03.000 No, they don't care about the borders at all.

00:28:05.000 And then you had Bashir, who's really, I don't even want to say he's a left-wing nut job. 0.96

00:28:10.000 He's kind of a nothing.

00:28:11.000 He's the son of a popular former Kentucky politician, and that's the only reason he's in office.

00:28:17.000 But he let the mask slip there, especially with Spanberger, who's a total left-wing nut job, saying, look, we just have to pretend to believe these things and say things that sound nice.

00:28:26.000 And then when we get in office, we don't have to do any of it.

00:28:28.000 It's a total con job.

00:28:30.000 Yeah, well, and remind folks about Virginia.

00:28:33.000 I mean, Virginia, like when I say you're going full Virginia in 28, like that's full, basically radical leftist communist DSA, certainly.

00:28:44.000 I mean, they are taking Virginia a D6 state.

00:28:47.000 I mean, Kamala held it by six points. 0.99

00:28:49.000 They are taking it into a direction like it's a D40 state.

00:28:53.000 This is absolutely radical stuff, and this is the playbook.

00:28:56.000 Go.

00:28:57.000 So, what are they doing in Virginia?

00:28:59.000 Yeah, so I mean, they're all but banning ICE.

00:29:03.000 They're undoing everything Youngkin did to reform schools and on the trans issue.

00:29:08.000 But I will have to say, in a certain real politics sense, I admire the Democrats for what they're doing because they don't get stuck in this trap that Republicans get in.

00:29:18.000 When they get in office, if they only win by a single vote, they do 100% of their agenda.

00:29:24.000 And it's why they're able to make such massive sweeping cultural and political gains in the country.

00:29:29.000 You look at Obamacare, that thing was a political disaster.

00:29:32.000 They didn't care.

00:29:33.000 They wanted to remake the country and they had to do it by remaking health care.

00:29:37.000 And so I think Republicans actually can learn a little something from this: if you get in and you use power for your ends to reward your friends and constituency, you will be rewarded long term.

00:29:50.000 And so Democrats lie and they cheat and they steal, but it works for them.

00:29:54.000 Yeah, I mean, this was just a few days after getting sworn in.

00:29:58.000 New 4.3% sales tax on Uber Eats, Amazon, et cetera.

00:30:02.000 New sales tax on admissions to a wide variety of businesses.

00:30:06.000 Create two new higher tax brackets of 8% and 10% on people making over $600,000.

00:30:11.000 A new 10% bracket for anyone making over a million, 3.8% investment tax on top of state income taxes.

00:30:16.000 Raise the hotel tax, new personal property tax on landscaping equipment, ban gas-powered leaf blowers.

00:30:23.000 Of course, because California has just paved the way on so much of this.

00:30:26.000 Guarantee illegal aliens free education. 0.86

00:30:28.000 Make it illegal to approach somebody at an abortion clinic.

00:30:30.000 Extend the time absentee ballots can be received after election day to three days.

00:30:35.000 Allow people to cast their votes electronically through the internet.

00:30:38.000 I mean, on and on and on it goes, not to mention their redistricting fight where they're going to have a single Republican district.

00:30:45.000 Now, it looks like that one has at least been stayed for a little while.

00:30:50.000 They'll probably get it, what, in 2028, but it's not going to make it in time for the midterms.

00:30:53.000 I mean, they just went full radical to your point.

00:30:56.000 But here's what's crazy: now you see the leaders of the party signaling to the base saying, hey, go a little bit lighter, a little lighter touch, fly under the radar, don't be so radical.

00:31:08.000 And guess what?

00:31:09.000 If you do that, you get to go full Virginia in 26 and 28.

00:31:13.000 I mean, it just to me, it seems about the most clear thing I've seen in a long time.

00:31:18.000 And to see, you know, Obama and Hillary still out front leading the charge.

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00:32:24.000 The Justice Department has just released a number of names.

00:32:31.000 So over the weekend, it was a six-page letter from the DOJ signed by Pam Bonnie and Todd Blanche.

00:32:38.000 And it released a series of names.

00:32:40.000 And this is apparently all keeping with this Transparency Act.

00:32:45.000 And it gave them a 30-day statutory guideline to get this stuff out.

00:32:50.000 And they have, and it feels like all hell's breaking loose.

00:32:53.000 If you just look on X, it's like allegations are flying everywhere.

00:32:56.000 People like Janice Joplin's in there, Elvis.

00:32:59.000 Like, if you've been mentioned at all in a link of an article, in an email from Jeffrey Epstein or somebody else, you are mentioned in this.

00:33:09.000 What do we make of this?

00:33:11.000 And like, how should we think about it?

00:33:13.000 Yeah, it's been really interesting looking at all the stuff that's coming out.

00:33:16.000 And yeah, there's a bazillion names in there, but there are some very key trends that we see.

00:33:23.000 The main one is that through kind of his entire career of all this influence stuff, Jeffrey Epstein was a tried and true Democrat.

00:33:32.000 The people who were talking to him the most often and going to his island were Democrats.

00:33:37.000 You had people like Reed Hoffman.

00:33:39.000 This is a guy who's been funding hoax after hoax on behalf of the Democrats.

00:33:43.000 You had Reid Hoffman, who is BFF with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:33:46.000 You had Kathy Rummler, who is Obama's ethics czar and his White House counsel, who is Epstein's fixer, who is involved in working with him to help mitigate scandals facing the Obama administration, even a secret service scandal.

00:34:02.000 And you look at all this and you're like, man, this is a pretty common theme here.

00:34:06.000 Like, Democrats were completely in bed with this guy.

00:34:09.000 And it's been really interesting to watch the media cover this and do everything they can to not mention Reed Hoffman, who is in up to his neck in Epstein nonsense and now wants to pretend, oh, he was just a casual pen pal with the guy.

00:34:23.000 Yeah, so this is from Kanakoa the Great.

00:34:26.000 He said, Reed Hoffman stayed at Jeffrey Epstein's ranch, private island, in Manhattan apartment.

00:34:31.000 He bought ice cream for the girls.

00:34:34.000 That one's real fun.

00:34:35.000 A metal sculpture for the island.

00:34:38.000 Hoffman donated over $100 million to Democrat causes.

00:34:41.000 He funded the fake Russian bots on Twitter and financed the Egyptian Carroll lawsuit.

00:34:46.000 People forget that one.

00:34:48.000 He funded Clear Choice PAC, which used Lawfare to remove Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Cornell West from the ballot in Battleground States.

00:34:57.000 So he's literally used his, so they emailed each other over 1,700 times.

00:35:03.000 I don't think I've emailed anybody 1,700 times.

00:35:06.000 Like legitimately.

00:35:07.000 They emailed each other 1,700.

00:35:09.000 They called each other very close friends, discussed the visits to Epstein's properties, private jet shopping, gift exchanges, and talked about how much they missed each other.

00:35:20.000 That is five years of emails if they emailed once every day.

00:35:24.000 Wow.

00:35:24.000 I mean, so this is apparently the craziest email.

00:35:28.000 Again, shout out to Kanakoa the Great on X. In January 2015, as allegations that Epstein trafficked Virginia Roberts to Prince Andrew went global, Hoffman offered to help Epstein with his negative press coverage.

00:35:44.000 Hmm, very, very fascinating.

00:35:46.000 This is from CNN here.

00:35:47.000 It says this new DOJ document.

00:35:49.000 It also mentioned prominent individuals who had previously been linked to Epstein, including President Donald Trump, former President Bill Clinton, former Trump advisor Steve Bannon, former White House counsel Kathy Rumler, and billionaire business magnate Les Wexner.

00:36:05.000 There's 3.5 million documents.

00:36:07.000 People are still pouring through them, Sean.

00:36:10.000 So we're still getting new details.

00:36:12.000 People keep coming up with new kernels and new allegations.

00:36:16.000 And it just seems like it's a freaking mess out there.

00:36:20.000 And it feels like everything that our friend Mike Davis warned about earlier in the year, last year, has basically become true.

00:36:28.000 That there is so much lack of context.

00:36:31.000 There's so much, there's a lot of stuff.

00:36:34.000 There's a lot of information.

00:36:35.000 And there's not a whole lot of guidance on what's true, what's mere hearsay, what's out of context, just mentioning of names.

00:36:44.000 And it does feel like a lot of the people, you didn't want to listen to him at the time, have been proven right that people are just getting smeared.

00:36:51.000 And like out of nowhere, innocent people are getting hurt.

00:36:55.000 And some of the victims are getting hurt too.

00:36:57.000 Yeah, well, you had Ro Khanna, another Reed Hoffman Democrat ally, go to the floor, you know, along with Thomas Massey, and they outed, you know, six people who were on there as people who were doing stuff with Epstein.

00:37:10.000 They were random people in a lineup that was tangentially related to Epstein.

00:37:16.000 These were random people.

00:37:17.000 They didn't do anything wrong.

00:37:19.000 They apparently just had their photos taken at the wrong time.

00:37:22.000 The thing that I find so exasperating is, yes, we have a bazillion documents now and we're able to learn a lot.

00:37:28.000 The one thing that I want to know is which Intel agencies was he working for?

00:37:33.000 Which ones?

00:37:34.000 I don't believe anyone when they tell me, oh, he wasn't doing anything with the CIA.

00:37:38.000 He wasn't doing anything with Mossad.

00:37:40.000 He wasn't doing anything with the Saudis.

00:37:41.000 Nope, he was just a weird guy doing stuff.

00:37:44.000 No one believes that.

00:37:45.000 And I guess my frustration is after all this time, after all these years, I just assume all the documents they had, if they ever even had them, that tell us those things, that answer those questions, are gone.

00:37:57.000 And I just find the whole thing maddening and frustrating because I feel like that's the one thing people want to know.

00:38:02.000 Tell us who he was working for.

00:38:04.000 And that's the one thing apparently we're never going to get to know for certain.

00:38:07.000 Well, and it's like, why does he FOIA himself?

00:38:10.000 Why does he FOIA the CIA twice?

00:38:12.000 I know Blake's is a nascent.

00:38:14.000 I'm the big skeptic on that.

00:38:16.000 I think I'm completely with you.

00:38:17.000 I don't believe it.

00:38:18.000 I think it was soft power.

00:38:20.000 Yeah, he's not like, here's your W-2 for the CIA.

00:38:23.000 It wasn't like that, guys.

00:38:25.000 This was all soft power and behind the scenes.

00:38:28.000 If that's what it was, then the question is like, how far does it go?

00:38:30.000 Because if it's a much more casual arrangement where he just deals in information sometimes, that's, I guess, then you ask, what's the big scandal there?

00:38:40.000 Because the claim is, of course, that he was doing intel ops that might blackmail people and trap people, get really involved in the family.

00:38:45.000 I think he was running money.

00:38:46.000 I think he was doing financial transactions. 0.99

00:38:49.000 And I think they let him do the kinky sex crap because he was valuable for them with the financial laundry and all that. 1.00

00:38:55.000 But I don't think we'll ever know. 0.99

00:38:57.000 Gotta leave.

00:38:58.000 Gotta leave it there.

00:38:59.000 We'll see you guys tomorrow.

00:39:00.000 Thank you, Sean Davis.

The Charlie Kirk Show - February 17, 2026

A Confirmation Battle for Charlie’s Legacy

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