The Charlie Kirk Show - A Country Founded on Critical Race Theory

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, what happens if a country was founded on critical race theory?

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00:03:13.000 We are here at the Turning Point USA Student Action Summit, the largest gathering ever of young conservatives.

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00:04:01.000 So, one of the themes that we have been talking about here at Turning Point USA is critical race theory.

00:04:08.000 What are the implications of critical race theory?

00:04:11.000 Article by a friend of mine was one of the best articles I've read in quite some time.

00:04:16.000 And I think it was done by the site itself.

00:04:20.000 In fact, let's have Darren back on the show.

00:04:22.000 Darren's great.

00:04:22.000 He's so smart.

00:04:23.000 It's revolver.news.

00:04:25.000 And as soon as I saw the headline, I put down my phone and I said, why didn't I think of that?

00:04:30.000 And that's when you know that's a really important thing.

00:04:33.000 I think it's really important.

00:04:34.000 I mean, to be fair, you have brought up South Africa a lot, just as a preface.

00:04:38.000 Oh, no, of course.

00:04:39.000 But the way this was articulated.

00:04:40.000 Yeah, no, the way it was constructed, the argument is really, really brilliant.

00:04:44.000 Yeah, here's the article headline: South Africa, the first country built on critical race theory, officially implodes. 0.53

00:04:50.000 And I thought to myself, that is so perfect. 0.85

00:04:53.000 What were to happen if we founded a country and built a country on all of these academic ideas that we see talked about in higher education?

00:05:04.000 What would that look like?

00:05:04.000 What would happen?

00:05:05.000 Well, the answer is South Africa.

00:05:08.000 South Africa is totally disintegrating.

00:05:10.000 Again, I'm reading from Revolver.news.

00:05:12.000 So what happened is that there was the jailing of this person by the name of Jacob Zuma.

00:05:17.000 And the supporters of the former president took to the streets to allegedly protest.

00:05:21.000 But what they really wanted to do was to plunder and steal at will.

00:05:26.000 Sound familiar?

00:05:28.000 The death toll already of all the riots are already into the dozens in South Africa.

00:05:34.000 Do you know there are 57 murders a day in South Africa?

00:05:37.000 That's almost American levels of murders.

00:05:40.000 That's why I said it's insane per capita, by the way.

00:05:43.000 That's what I mean.

00:05:44.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:05:45.000 I was.

00:05:45.000 Yes.

00:05:46.000 Well, I'm just saying that's America is probably, let me guess.

00:05:49.000 America probably has 200 murders a day.

00:05:52.000 That's just an interesting question, isn't it?

00:05:54.000 How many murders does America have a day?

00:05:56.000 We have 330 million people versus.

00:05:58.000 No, totally.

00:05:58.000 I'm just, I'm guessing.

00:05:59.000 I don't know.

00:05:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:06:00.000 The point is that the rioters have plundered shops and entire shopping malls.

00:06:04.000 If you have not seen what's been happening in South Africa, then you are living in a media simulation.

00:06:11.000 It's one of the most important stories happening in the world. 0.51

00:06:14.000 Now, South Africa, many people listening to this that are under the age of 30, myself included, have no real memory of how South Africa was the old Israel.

00:06:25.000 What do I mean by that?

00:06:26.000 South Africa used to be the trendy celebrity concert-filled issue that people would talk about to Virtue Signal for good reason, largely, because South Africa was living under legitimate legal apartheid.

00:06:43.000 Now, Andrew, do you remember this?

00:06:45.000 Because you're a little bit older than I am.

00:06:46.000 Do you remember when South Africa was a really big deal?

00:06:49.000 Oh, yeah.

00:06:50.000 I feel like when I was in grade school, I mean, all I heard about was Nelson Mandela.

00:06:54.000 And they were sort of the iconic civil rights leaders of the world at that time.

00:07:00.000 And if you could get a picture with Nelson Mandela, it was like everybody would travel.

00:07:05.000 They would go on a pilgrimage to South Africa.

00:07:07.000 Lots of stories.

00:07:08.000 So South Africa was able to turn the page on apartheid.

00:07:14.000 But instead of founding themselves on American principles, they snuck in these academic theories of critical theory into their laws, and no one really ever said anything about it.

00:07:25.000 So South Africa, I think it was 1994, was their re-founding, was the first modern nation to be re-founded on specifically anti-white principles of critical race theory and is now reaping the whirlwind of that choice. 0.56

00:07:41.000 So smart. 0.68

00:07:42.000 What's happened in South Africa and what happened in South Africa is now being implemented in America.

00:07:49.000 So South Africa is the only country in the world that has a similar demographic portfolio as America.

00:07:57.000 It's the only country that has as diverse of a country as America.

00:08:01.000 I'm going to prove it to you.

00:08:03.000 So, in South Africa, it's about a 78% Christian country.

00:08:09.000 It's 80% black, 8% kind of other ethnic minority, 7.9% white, and 2.9% Asian.

00:08:17.000 So, it's a predominant of one racial group with other racial groups.

00:08:22.000 That other is probably a mix between black and white.

00:08:24.000 They call that there's a word for it.

00:08:24.000 That's right.

00:08:26.000 I'm not going to say it.

00:08:26.000 I'm not going to say it either, but it's considered to be a pejorative.

00:08:30.000 Very much so.

00:08:30.000 I know exactly the term you're thinking of.

00:08:32.000 Yeah, but it's just mixed race.

00:08:32.000 I'm not going to say it.

00:08:34.000 That's right.

00:08:35.000 Black and white.

00:08:36.000 And so South Africa was previously a Dutch colony.

00:08:41.000 And so South Africans speak a language called Afrikaans, right?

00:08:48.000 Which is this kind of mixture blend of different languages.

00:08:53.000 South Africa, just so you know, is natural resource rich.

00:09:00.000 Now, before the Dutch colonized it, the Portuguese explored it, but the Dutch were really, they ran the port right around 1647, where two employees of the Dutch East India Trading Company were shipwrecked at Cape Town, South Africa.

00:09:16.000 Now, all these guys with these Dutch names of Jean van Riebeck and all these people started to found a lot of cities in South Africa, Johannesburg, for example.

00:09:28.000 And you get a lot of these books that are written about South Africa.

00:09:32.000 So Winston Churchill actually fought in the Boer War all the way down in South Africa.

00:09:38.000 And so the Boer republics boarded and overlapped it.

00:09:42.000 And then eventually South Africa gained independence.

00:09:46.000 Now, racial segregation was previously mostly informal, but then it got actually formalized.

00:09:52.000 The Union of South Africa started in May of 1910, and the Natives Land Act of 1913 severely restricted ownership of land by blacks in South Africa.

00:10:08.000 This started decades of different movements, and segregation was institutionalized.

00:10:17.000 For example, there would be signs by order of provincial secretary, these public premises and the amenities thereof have been reserved for the executive use of white persons.

00:10:27.000 The segregation was all throughout South African society growing up and growing up if you grew up in South Africa.

00:10:35.000 So what ended up happening is when South Africa was re-founded in 94, they did not embrace a form of a constitutional republic like we had.

00:10:46.000 Instead, they considered to hyper-focus on race even more. 0.55

00:10:51.000 So the African National Congress Party is incredibly corrupt and ineffective. 1.00

00:10:56.000 And in fact, they are anti-white. 0.98

00:10:59.000 Now, people don't like talking about this, but remember back with the story during Donald Trump that got a lot of controversy, how white farmers had to give up their land to blacks based solely on the color of their skin.

00:11:11.000 Now, there was some misinformation around that story, but it was true in certain provinces across South Africa.

00:11:17.000 Now, you have to understand, though, that there's this idea in South Africa to always try and elevate the ethnic minority.

00:11:26.000 For example, there's a thing called the Triple Boule scorecard, the broad-based black empowerment economic employment.

00:11:33.000 And there's nothing broad or based about it.

00:11:35.000 It is simply trying to achieve the equity or communitarian-style redistribution that we see in our country.

00:11:43.000 South Africa is something that you all listening to this right now have to become very familiar with.

00:11:49.000 Because when your friends have these coffee shop-style debates about critical race theory, you need to point to a real example.

00:11:56.000 Needed to point to the murders and the rioting and the looting and the unraveling of a society that is rich in natural resources, that was once going to be an economic superpower and is now on the verge of a civil war.

00:12:10.000 And that's what critical race theory gets us.

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00:13:26.000 What happens when you found a country on critical race theory?

00:13:29.000 And so we've gone through in great detail the ideas and the ideals of the American founding, which is at odds with everything critical race theory believes in.

00:13:39.000 But there are seven truths that are mentioned in the preamble of the Constitution.

00:13:44.000 There are seven aims and objectives of the United States Constitution.

00:13:49.000 Josh Hammer at our Turning Point USA Student Action Summit said this, and it was so obvious.

00:13:54.000 So I went back to my hotel room late last night and I reread it and I said, of course there is.

00:13:58.000 And it's beautiful.

00:14:00.000 And I want to read it for you because when you form a government, you're really forming a cooperation.

00:14:05.000 You're coming together with an agreed-upon purpose.

00:14:08.000 So in this short sentence, I think it's all one sentence.

00:14:12.000 There are seven things that we are trying to accomplish as a people.

00:14:15.000 We, the people of the United States, number one, in order to form a more perfect union, one, establish justice, two, ensure domestic tranquility, three, provide for the common defense, four, promote the general welfare, five, secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and posterity, do ordain this constitution for the blessings of the United States for the United States.

00:14:35.000 America might be six, actually.

00:14:36.000 Maybe I'm secure the blessings.

00:14:38.000 Six and a half.

00:14:39.000 Like six and a half.

00:14:39.000 Yeah, six and a half.

00:14:41.000 Yeah, we're ordaining.

00:14:42.000 I'm sorry.

00:14:43.000 You're right.

00:14:43.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:14:44.000 You're right.

00:14:44.000 We do ordain.

00:14:45.000 Seven.

00:14:45.000 That's a big deal.

00:14:47.000 That preambles our mission statement as a country.

00:14:51.000 Nicole Hannah Jones and Robin DiAngelo and the critical race theory people.

00:14:55.000 Do you know what they can't find in that preamble?

00:14:59.000 A skin color.

00:15:01.000 We, the people, which means the speaking beings.

00:15:04.000 If you're a human being, this applies to you.

00:15:06.000 It is by definition the Greek definition of equality.

00:15:09.000 By definition, the Greek definition.

00:15:11.000 It is by its own practice, by its existence, the Greek definition of equality, which means equality under the law.

00:15:20.000 More perfect union.

00:15:21.000 Establish justice.

00:15:22.000 Ensure domestic tranquility.

00:15:24.000 Provide for the common defense.

00:15:26.000 Promote the general welfare.

00:15:27.000 Secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and to our posterity.

00:15:30.000 Do ordain, which means that you only ordain things, by the way, when you believe in a transcendent order.

00:15:36.000 You do not ordain secular things.

00:15:40.000 People who are in the secular world don't believe in ordaining in the truest sense of where that word comes from.

00:15:46.000 So the country that's been built not on those seven truths, not on ordaining or securing or protecting or establishing.

00:15:54.000 Look at these action verbs.

00:15:55.000 Form, establish, and sure, provide, promote, secure, protect, and ordain.

00:16:03.000 Ordain and establish.

00:16:04.000 Those are seven verticals.

00:16:05.000 That's a great point.

00:16:06.000 Honestly, I'd never thought about the word ordain.

00:16:09.000 And, you know, they talk about the founders and they say, oh, they were deists, or we don't know if they were Christian. 0.99

00:16:14.000 That's all garbage. 0.98

00:16:14.000 Anyways, we've talked about that on the show. 0.98

00:16:16.000 But regardless of if they were devout themselves, they were all so steep in the language and the thinking and the rhythms of the Bible that it completely saturates and permeates all of our financial ordination back then was a strictly religious thing.

00:16:32.000 And so this idea of ordaining, which is the second definition of the word, has a secular meaning, is a new kind of phenomenon.

00:16:39.000 Anyway, but you look at a country that doesn't have that.

00:16:42.000 What does it look like?

00:16:43.000 So South Africa is also a racially diverse country.

00:16:46.000 Very few countries are racially diverse, by the way.

00:16:48.000 France has recently become more racially diverse because of immigration.

00:16:52.000 The United Kingdom has recently become more diverse. 0.92

00:16:54.000 Well, very few are racially diverse and peaceful. 1.00

00:16:57.000 Well, that's the point. 0.50

00:16:58.000 This idea of a kind of multi-decade chapter in our country, mostly this 80s and 90s and early 2000s, for 30 years, we had plenty of problems and bad decisions made by our elites, but you really can't find outside of one incident, the Rodney King riots.

00:17:15.000 That's it.

00:17:16.000 You cannot find widespread racial disharmony in America in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s.

00:17:22.000 You can't.

00:17:22.000 I mean, you could find some movements here and there.

00:17:24.000 You can find, you know, Al Sharpton, the con man with Brawley, LaQuita, I get the name screwed up.

00:17:33.000 Tyana Brawley.

00:17:34.000 I think you.

00:17:35.000 Yeah.

00:17:36.000 Was that Andrew Gordon?

00:17:37.000 That's a good pull, Andrew Gordon.

00:17:37.000 Yeah.

00:17:39.000 You could find those things.

00:17:40.000 But for 30 years, yeah, you are from New York, Mr. Gordon.

00:17:43.000 That's a great poll.

00:17:45.000 Long Island.

00:17:45.000 Not from Long Island.

00:17:46.000 I think it didn't happen far from there. 0.89

00:17:49.000 For 30 years, we had this moment past civil rights era where you saw the black middle class have an opportunity to really grow, and some blacks took advantage of it. 0.73

00:17:59.000 You also saw the heavy hand of government from the great society.

00:18:02.000 But generally, this idea of race was being de-emphasized in American society.

00:18:07.000 Now we're deciding to go back to how we were in the 1960s, to go back to how it was in the 1800s. 0.51

00:18:12.000 And quite honestly, you look at South Africa, this is what this looks like in full implementation. 0.81

00:18:20.000 You know, we spend a lot of time in the clouds here, which is a good thing.

00:18:23.000 You should spend time in the clouds, which is ideas and principles and morals and philosophy, which means the love of wisdom.

00:18:29.000 Literally, go back to the Greek word of philosophy, it means love of wisdom.

00:18:33.000 But it's also important to see when these ideas are implemented.

00:18:37.000 What does that society look like?

00:18:40.000 And South Africa is a perfect example.

00:18:43.000 The Washington Post even has an article out that says South Africa's riots are a warning to the world.

00:18:50.000 Oh, okay.

00:18:51.000 So the Washington Post calls unrest in South Africa riots, but they call unrest in America mostly peaceful protesting.

00:18:59.000 Remember when, what's her name, Kurtz Weil, who wrote that piece that said the case for looting?

00:19:06.000 We're going to see the normalization of theft.

00:19:08.000 We're already seeing, by the way, did you know looting is legal in San Francisco if you steal less than $900?

00:19:18.000 Oscar Weil, they will not, I wasn't that far off, they will not charge you with a crime in South Africa if they steal if you steal less than $900.

00:19:29.000 So South Africa is a perfect example of what happens when the people in charge of America get their way and they implement it.

00:19:36.000 This is where we are headed.

00:19:38.000 So the prime minister of South Africa might as well be Ibram X. Kendi.

00:19:43.000 Ibram X. Kendi or Robin D'Angelo or Tahanisi Coates or Nicole Hannah Jones.

00:19:47.000 You notice how weird all these people's names are?

00:19:50.000 Wasn't Tahanisi Coates born with like a very normal Ibrahim X. Kendi was like Henry Rogers or something.

00:19:58.000 And he just created this name.

00:19:59.000 Maybe it was his ancestral name.

00:20:01.000 I don't know.

00:20:02.000 Not going to spend too much time on that.

00:20:05.000 But what does this sound like?

00:20:07.000 South Africa has the BBBE organization of government.

00:20:13.000 It is called the Economic Freedom Fighting Alliance, otherwise known as the broad-based economic employment.

00:20:22.000 Now, there's nothing based about this. 0.88

00:20:23.000 Instead, the policy is used to try and achieve equity, broad-based black economic inequality, equality. 0.89

00:20:30.000 That sounds like something that was workshopped in BLM. 0.92

00:20:34.000 Now, I'm going to be very honest with you guys, and we have a great relationship together with our audience.

00:20:39.000 I should have talked earlier about South Africa in regards to critical race theory.

00:20:43.000 The BBBE, which is a racist institution in South Africa, is a government agency that relies openly and explicitly on injecting racial preferences throughout the economy.

00:20:54.000 And again, I'm reading from Revolver.news.

00:20:57.000 Companies who receive a BBBE scorecard based on hiring black workers, elevating black management, and giving black South Africans a share of ownership.

00:21:10.000 Companies with a high score are given favorable tax treatment.

00:21:13.000 Corporate actors are strongly incentivized to give contracts to high scorers as well.

00:21:18.000 So what are the results then? 0.96

00:21:20.000 What happens when you start organizing society based on black preference?

00:21:26.000 Remember the rolling blackouts that you've seen in South Africa?

00:21:30.000 ESCOM in particular, which is called, they are South Africa's public electric utility company.

00:21:36.000 They are one of the most intense adapters of this idea.

00:21:41.000 Gwen Nagadia, I'm sorry, Nagawanaya described the outcome of this approach where she said, why is ESCOM in trouble?

00:21:49.000 Because it has high operating costs and it cannot meet its debt obligations.

00:21:52.000 Why?

00:21:53.000 Well, its ambitious program to build two big power stations has incurred substantial cost overruns and technical faults.

00:21:59.000 In part, it was flawed from the beginning with a small bidding pool, meaning it was likely not cost competitive from the start.

00:21:59.000 Why?

00:22:05.000 Why?

00:22:06.000 There was political meddling.

00:22:07.000 Chancellor House.

00:22:07.000 Why?

00:22:08.000 Why? 0.99

00:22:09.000 Contractors needed to have black partner in order to secure contracts. 0.99

00:22:13.000 Why? 1.00

00:22:13.000 The BE. 1.00

00:22:16.000 In order to do business in South Africa, you must win over the anti-racist division of the government.

00:22:24.000 But there's more going on than just racial discrimination.

00:22:30.000 There's also, when you have rampant affirmative action, this is so obvious, it is an invitation to cronyism and corruption.

00:22:38.000 All these racial quota laws to try to hire blacks in South Africa is the heaviest on small businesses, where large mega corporations, they have no problem complying to this. 0.80

00:22:50.000 Now, we talk a lot up in the free market space, of which, you know, Turning Point is part of and we spend a lot of time in, about burdensome regulation.

00:22:59.000 And remember, we love markets as a means to an end, not as an end to a means, meaning we're not trying to get to a place of free markets.

00:23:07.000 We're trying to use free markets when useful to expand human flourishing, protect private property, rebuild the American family.

00:23:14.000 And if we have to insert ourselves into a market when there's not a desirable outcome, like families getting obliterated because of some corporation that did something, then we should be happy to do that.

00:23:24.000 We should be reluctant to do it at times, but markets should work for us.

00:23:28.000 We should not work for market.

00:23:30.000 This puritanical view of free markets is a libertarian idea.

00:23:34.000 That's fine.

00:23:35.000 I agree with libertarians on guns and lockdowns and against mandatory vaccines.

00:23:39.000 I do not agree with them on a quasi-religious view of markets.

00:23:43.000 That's a different podcast for a different time.

00:23:46.000 But we talk a lot about regulation.

00:23:49.000 Red tape is what we call it.

00:23:51.000 What about the red tape of racial quotas?

00:23:54.000 Do you want to crush the small business in Tampa, Florida?

00:23:58.000 Do you want to crush the laundromat in Spokane, Washington?

00:24:03.000 Do you want to crush the cobbler in Riverside, California? 0.57

00:24:08.000 Then all of a sudden tell them that they have to comply with this top-down racial demographic edicts. 0.81

00:24:18.000 That's going to raise the cost of doing business.

00:24:21.000 And that is precisely what has happened in South Africa.

00:24:25.000 South Africa's unemployment rate is at a record 32.6%.

00:24:34.000 That is not just a quirk of the Chinese coronavirus.

00:24:37.000 The country's unemployment was at 32.5% in early 2020.

00:24:43.000 Now, as the country has continued to deteriorate, race hate against white people is not stopping, but it's only going to increase.

00:24:52.000 The same thing that's happened in America.

00:24:56.000 And one of the richest families in South Africa is the Gupta family.

00:25:02.000 They are an Indian immigrants who arrived in 1993 to try and start businesses after the end of apartheid.

00:25:09.000 They had nothing to do with apartheid, not ancestrally or not directly.

00:25:15.000 So what ended up happening?

00:25:17.000 Well, the Guptas built a relationship with the now-jailed Jacob Zuma.

00:25:23.000 Zuma became president and his actions benefited the Guptas to such a degree, it constituted state capture.

00:25:30.000 The Guptas owned a portfolio of companies that enjoyed lucrative contracts with South African government departments and state-owned conglomerates.

00:25:38.000 Public officials responsible for various state bodies say they were directly instructed by the Guptas to take decisions.

00:25:44.000 Basically, South Africa is run by a ruling class.

00:25:47.000 But you know who is immune from that? 0.51

00:25:49.000 Indians, because it's inherently anti-white legislation and the Indians aren't involved in that. 0.99

00:25:55.000 Loophole. 1.00

00:25:56.000 Found a loophole, but then they use that loophole to exploit the rest of the country of South Africa.

00:26:03.000 Now, South Africa isn't the only country that has done this. 0.73

00:26:06.000 Zimbabwe also in March of 2020 started to give land back to white farmers after they wrecked the economy because Zimbabwe took it from white farmers.

00:26:17.000 In fact, one of our board members at Turning Point USA, when it used to be called Rhodesia, had land stolen from the evil communist-funded Mugabe. 0.62

00:26:28.000 Mugabe was a Soviet-funded dictator.

00:26:32.000 Very few people know that.

00:26:33.000 In fact, people don't even know, people don't know this, obviously, that the World Council for Soviet Expansion, you know, the last conference they ever held was held in Zimbabwe?

00:26:45.000 The last conference they ever held.

00:26:49.000 And so, what does this mean for us in America?

00:26:54.000 This means when you elect a president, a congressman, or a senator that talks the way that Ibram X. Kendi does or Corey Booker does, you're going to get South Africa, a rather independently and otherwise rich nation, by the way.

00:27:10.000 It was the standard bearer in all of Africa.

00:27:12.000 It's called the crown jewel of Africa.

00:27:14.000 Botswana, actually, is Zimbabwe, Botswana is considered the crown jewel, but that's all the same region, by the way, just so we're clear.

00:27:20.000 South Africa is on what's called the central plateau.

00:27:24.000 Very, very fertile land.

00:27:26.000 It should be the breadbasket of Africa.

00:27:29.000 You know, people think of Africa, they just think it like a bunch of sand. 0.99

00:27:31.000 They think of like Aladdin or like Lawrence of Arabia, which is not even in Africa, which is hilarious, right? 0.71

00:27:35.000 Well, yeah, Northern Africa versus Southern Africa.

00:27:37.000 Well, Lawrence Arabia is on the Arabian Peninsula.

00:27:39.000 I'm just saying that's what people think. 1.00

00:27:40.000 Like a bunch of these like never-ending.

00:27:42.000 Or they think jungles and gorillas, but actually, South Africa is actually, it's more like California.

00:27:47.000 Yeah, it's precisely.

00:27:48.000 And in fact, there's a lot of wines that come from South Africa.

00:27:52.000 And so you have in South Africa Botswana, which is a country that has actually embraced private property and markets more than most.

00:28:01.000 Then you have a country like Zimbabwe, which was formerly Rhodesia, total disaster.

00:28:05.000 And then Namibia out to the west, Mozambique out to the east.

00:28:08.000 And South Africa, by the way, South Africa has like city-states within its own country.

00:28:14.000 You want to talk about a divided nation.

00:28:15.000 That's South Africa.

00:28:17.000 In fact, there was an alien movie that was done that was playing off of apartheid.

00:28:21.000 What was that movie called?

00:28:22.000 It was called like Section 6 or something.

00:28:24.000 You remember that movie, Terry?

00:28:25.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:25.000 You know what I'm talking about?

00:28:28.000 Yeah, they filmed it in South Africa.

00:28:31.000 District 9.

00:28:31.000 That's exactly right.

00:28:32.000 And so it's.

00:28:33.000 Incredibly successful movie, but yeah, they spilled it on the cheap in South Africa.

00:28:37.000 It's super successful.

00:28:38.000 And I liked it a lot.

00:28:40.000 And I think they were, I don't remember how it was.

00:28:43.000 I don't even remember if it would politically apply today, but it actually did a good job of explaining kind of like this idea of an outsider coming and governing an insider because literally aliens were governing humans.

00:28:52.000 Is that a fair way to say it?

00:28:53.000 Yep.

00:28:54.000 And the humans were like on lockdown.

00:28:56.000 What I think is interesting in South Africa is it's an example of scapegoating culture.

00:29:02.000 Yes.

00:29:02.000 Like run amok.

00:29:03.000 And what happens is they seem to all end up in the same place, right?

00:29:08.000 Right now, it's interesting because we all grew up learning about the Holocaust and all of these stories that are tragic and they're sort of ingrained in us. 0.64

00:29:16.000 But that was the ultimate scapegoat, right?

00:29:18.000 This was heaping all of your grievances and all of the problems that you thought about your culture and your society and your economy onto one people group, right?

00:29:27.000 And how does that end in a terrible, terrible way?

00:29:30.000 And I'm not saying that these are equal by any means, but it's the same.

00:29:33.000 It's the same thought process.

00:29:35.000 It's the same ideology.

00:29:36.000 It's a scapegoating culture.

00:29:38.000 And that's what's being implemented now.

00:29:40.000 You read this one article in the Washington Post says, riots in South Africa are a warning to the rest of the world.

00:29:45.000 Thanks, Washington Post.

00:29:45.000 You guys have been right on top of the riots.

00:29:47.000 Or how about Al Jazeera of all people?

00:29:49.000 South Africa's unrest and ANC's many failings.

00:29:54.000 Now, they call South Africa the rainbow nation because they're supposed to all get along.

00:30:01.000 But isn't this the false promise of liberalism?

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00:30:41.000 Okay, cut 14.

00:30:43.000 South Africa's radical political party, Black First, Land First.

00:30:49.000 This is what sounds exactly and identical to the very ideas that are being proposed by the Democrat Party.

00:30:59.000 And I think this is important.

00:31:01.000 I want to complete this point because you are going to hear from people that this has never been tried, that this is just theory.

00:31:09.000 It's so important to use reference points to show that these ideas will destroy civil society.

00:31:16.000 Play Cut 14.

00:31:18.000 In order to learn more about why anti-white racism is thriving in the country, I spoke to the deputy president of Black First Land First, one of South Africa's more radical political parties.

00:31:33.000 Last year, Andilem Kitama founded the Black First Land First, which he says aims to put land and the economy back in the hands of black South Africans.

00:31:46.000 BLF is taking their entire political party is founded on redistribution.

00:31:55.000 Their entire political party is founded on equity. 0.93

00:31:59.000 That's where we're going. 0.87

00:32:01.000 There will soon be a major tenant in the Democrat Party to just say we need black first land first. 0.98

00:32:09.000 South Africa should be a warning instead. 0.95

00:32:12.000 It's a playbook. 0.93

00:32:14.000 Instead, it's a roadmap.

00:32:16.000 Sure, it's actually an awful place to live. 0.97

00:32:19.000 You might get shot. 0.81

00:32:19.000 Your kids might get mugged. 0.81

00:32:21.000 Your daughters might get kidnapped.

00:32:23.000 The ruling class calls the shots in South Africa.

00:32:26.000 There's no touching the people in charge of South Africa.

00:32:29.000 Not going to happen.

00:32:30.000 If you live in Port Elizabeth, East London, Durban, Newcastle, Pretoria, and you have money, you won't get shot by a stray bullet.

00:32:40.000 You're in a bulletproof car and your kids will be just fine.

00:32:43.000 Again, it's an awful place to live.

00:32:44.000 You can't walk the streets at night.

00:32:45.000 Can't be around your fellow citizens.

00:32:48.000 Kind of sounds almost where America is headed.

00:32:51.000 And the 55 million person experiment of critical race theory is one of the most murderous, chaotic, and now it's on the verge of a legitimate civil war.

00:33:04.000 As South African society falls apart, it's going back now to levels of violence we have not seen since the end of apartheid, where some people feared that full-blown genocide was imminent.

00:33:18.000 And I have a lot of friends in South Africa, a lot, that I've met throughout the years at gun conventions and hunting conventions, and they say they have not seen this kind of outrage in a long time.

00:33:32.000 South Africa has one police officer for every 400 people.

00:33:39.000 The police are borderline useless at actually protecting the nation's law-abiding citizens who are forced to rely on private security or their own devices to keep themselves safe.

00:33:51.000 And by the way, that's a lot higher number than in America.

00:33:54.000 One police officer per 400 people.

00:33:56.000 That's a lot higher than America.

00:33:58.000 And you were talking about just, you know, you're not even able to go out at night. 0.87

00:34:02.000 Well, if you've ever been to Africa, you know that a lot of these white compounds, you know, from expats that are living there, everything's fenced, gated, private security, the whole thing. 0.91

00:34:14.000 So we talk about, we dream of an America where you don't have to lock your doors again. 0.93

00:34:19.000 Most people in Africa are dreaming about in South Africa specifically, but Kenya's the same way, many places the same way.

00:34:25.000 They're dreaming about a place where they don't need to have private security and fences and gates and barbed wire.

00:34:30.000 This goes back to the sociopathic nature of the American ruling class.

00:34:33.000 I don't think our billionaire class actually enjoys people.

00:34:36.000 I think they actually enjoy their people and they want to be away from them.

00:34:40.000 They want to be elevated.

00:34:41.000 They want to be fenced in.

00:34:42.000 And that is a psychological kind of exploration for a different episode.

00:34:49.000 Because if you don't love people, then you wouldn't care for their welfare.

00:34:52.000 They love themselves and they love their own power.

00:34:54.000 I think they love power and I think they love what it gives them.

00:34:58.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - July 20, 2021

A Country Founded on Critical Race Theory

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