The Charlie Kirk Show - April 04, 2024


A Detransitioner's Horror Story


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As things continue to develop live while we are on air, a D-Transitioner s horrific story of how the trans assembly line ruined her life, and what she s doing to fight back, on the Charlie Kirk Show with Malia Shirley.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show update from Nebraska with Malia Shirley as things continue to develop live while we're on air, a D-transitioner's horrific story of how the trans assembly line ruined her life and what she's doing to fight back.
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00:01:50.000 Nebraska has some of the best people in the country.
00:01:53.000 We're getting hundreds of emails saying, what in the fresh was that?
00:01:59.000 Oh, we got to wait till next year.
00:02:01.000 Man.
00:02:02.000 Well, joining us now is a total patriot.
00:02:06.000 She's a special person.
00:02:07.000 I've known her for quite a while.
00:02:08.000 She's a Turning Point alum, one of the original Turning Point leaders, and she is on the ground in Nebraska.
00:02:14.000 She knows her stuff.
00:02:16.000 Malia Shirley, Malia, welcome to the program.
00:02:19.000 Great to have you on.
00:02:19.000 You know your stuff.
00:02:21.000 What is the latest on the ground here?
00:02:23.000 I mean, so I heard, I heard, oh, we got to wait till next year.
00:02:26.000 This thing's not dead.
00:02:27.000 We're like one or two votes away.
00:02:29.000 I mean, and even if it fails, we dust ourselves off and we figure it out.
00:02:34.000 Malia, what's going on here?
00:02:35.000 Absolutely.
00:02:36.000 Well, thanks for having me, Charlie.
00:02:38.000 So we have multiple paths forward here.
00:02:41.000 We can add it as an amendment to a bill that's already on general file.
00:02:45.000 Governor Pillen can call a special session for it.
00:02:48.000 We can also encourage Speaker Arch to bring Lippincock's bill that is already in committee.
00:02:56.000 We have the votes to get it out of committee.
00:02:57.000 We can bring that to general file as well.
00:02:59.000 So there are a few different paths that we can take.
00:03:02.000 What we're trying to do right now is Senator Lippincott mentioned that we're three votes short to reach that 33 threshold to get it past the filibuster.
00:03:12.000 What no one has mentioned yet that I've heard is we only need 33 votes for cloture, but we need 25 votes for it to pass.
00:03:22.000 And we already have the 25 votes for passage.
00:03:24.000 So what we could do essentially is encourage some of those senators that might not want to vote for the bill to still vote yes on cloture, which is what senators have done for other pieces of legislation in the past.
00:03:36.000 Yeah, so you vote to allow it to go and then you vote against it.
00:03:38.000 That makes perfect sense for me.
00:03:40.000 So the filibuster rules, can they be changed?
00:03:45.000 So from what I have been told, I might need a fact check on this, but from what I have been told is the speaker has the ability to change the rules of the filibuster so long as he determines that sufficient debate has taken place.
00:04:00.000 And because Senator Julie Slama brought an amendment up on a bill last night, it was debated for a few hours.
00:04:11.000 And so he could essentially change the filibuster rules to say, you know, they've already debated on this.
00:04:17.000 We can change it to X number of hours and then put it up for a vote as well.
00:04:21.000 So, I mean, the reason I ask this, Malia, is this, you know how important this is.
00:04:24.000 You're on the front lines.
00:04:25.000 We've been texting like crazy.
00:04:26.000 She does a great job.
00:04:27.000 And this is turning points best in Nebraska, really incredible.
00:04:30.000 Nebraska Freedom Coalition, they do a great job.
00:04:33.000 Is that when we wanted to get a Supreme Court justice, McConnell, he got rid of filibuster.
00:04:38.000 And so there's a precedent.
00:04:40.000 So this speaker of the house, Arch, and again, we need to fact check it.
00:04:44.000 He potentially could waive the cloture rule and just go to an up or down majority vote.
00:04:48.000 I know that's unprecedented.
00:04:49.000 I know I don't need a lecture on precedence from all these people, but is it possible?
00:04:54.000 So from what I have been told, we'd have to, again, resort to what the rules are outlined on the page of the state legislature.
00:05:02.000 But the speaker does have the ability to change the rules.
00:05:06.000 Yeah.
00:05:06.000 Yes.
00:05:07.000 I mean, so here we go.
00:05:08.000 That's another path.
00:05:09.000 I know that's unprecedented and all this, but I just, Malia, where does this come from?
00:05:13.000 This whole idea, I just help me understand.
00:05:15.000 We got the eyes of the nation.
00:05:16.000 We've got millions of people watching.
00:05:18.000 We got emails that are flooding in.
00:05:19.000 This is the number one news story on the planet.
00:05:22.000 And we're told, oh, just next election cycle.
00:05:24.000 What is going on here?
00:05:26.000 So we have a big problem in Nebraska where people are just very complacent.
00:05:31.000 They're very comfortable.
00:05:32.000 They think, oh, you know, Nebraska, nice.
00:05:34.000 We're this deep red state.
00:05:36.000 We, nothing from the coasts are touching us.
00:05:39.000 And they're just completely oblivious to what's actually happening on the ground.
00:05:43.000 Now, over the past couple of years, we've really seen a groundswell of your average everyday patriots kind of tuning in and paying attention.
00:05:51.000 Last legislative session was absolutely unprecedented in the pieces of legislation that we were able to bring forward and get passed.
00:05:59.000 So the energy is there.
00:06:01.000 But the issue is that we don't have the elected officials that are able to harness that energy and utilize it to their advantage, which is kind of what you've been seeing and getting frustrated with.
00:06:11.000 So I mean, let's just, let's just say hypothetical.
00:06:14.000 Okay, so I can understand the argument.
00:06:15.000 You don't want to remove the filibuster while this session happens.
00:06:18.000 The governor calls a special session and the speaker of the house temporarily removes the filibuster rule for one vote.
00:06:25.000 They do the up or down vote.
00:06:27.000 You have the votes.
00:06:28.000 Thanks so much, guys.
00:06:30.000 Special session over.
00:06:32.000 Why is that so hard?
00:06:34.000 Simply because so many Republicans don't want to go against the status quo.
00:06:39.000 They're uncomfortable with change.
00:06:41.000 They don't want to rock the vote.
00:06:42.000 They see everyone as their friendly colleagues.
00:06:44.000 You have Julie Slama and Michaela Kavanaugh saying they trust each other on the floor.
00:06:49.000 They don't understand where we're at.
00:06:50.000 They don't know what time it is.
00:06:51.000 Yeah, they don't know what time it is.
00:06:52.000 I mean, just, I mean, I'm just kind of speechless here.
00:06:56.000 I mean, is Nebraska somehow not affected by like Joe Biden's terror campaign against the country?
00:07:02.000 I just, so let's bring together, I don't want to be too preemptive here because here's my other holding out hope that I know that there's a lot of disagreements with the governor on certain stuff and Senator Ricketts, but they've both voiced support.
00:07:15.000 And the eyes of the nation are now counting on them to get this done, not pun it to another cycle.
00:07:23.000 Do you think that if Senator Ricketts and Governor Pillen really put some muscle behind this, it could potentially move some votes to get this thing done?
00:07:32.000 I think that they absolutely could.
00:07:33.000 They do have a lot of influence over the people that are currently in the legislature.
00:07:38.000 And if, again, we don't need 33 votes for on the bill itself.
00:07:43.000 We just need 33 votes for cloture.
00:07:45.000 So if we can get a few of those people that are on the fence, say, look, we don't know what you want here.
00:07:51.000 We don't know what your game plan is, but you can vote no on the bill.
00:07:55.000 We just need you to come together for a cloture, especially for Senator McDonald, who just switched to the Republican Party.
00:08:01.000 Like we welcomed you with open arms when the entire Democrat Party turned their back on you.
00:08:05.000 Give us a sign of good faith here.
00:08:06.000 You don't have to vote for the bill, but let's put it up to a vote.
00:08:10.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:08:11.000 So then let's go through the names.
00:08:13.000 So how many people do we have to block to say no to cloture currently in Nebraska?
00:08:19.000 We need to switch three votes.
00:08:22.000 And from what I am hearing, that is Senator Tom Brandt, Senator Mike McDonnell, and the third is up in the air.
00:08:30.000 I've heard a lot of different names.
00:08:32.000 But from what it seems to be is Senator Merv Reapey, who has kind of flopped on a few other votes in the past.
00:08:40.000 He is a Republican.
00:08:41.000 He has voiced support for this bill already.
00:08:45.000 But he is also one of the ones that his name's been thrown around.
00:08:48.000 Got it.
00:08:49.000 And so if that doesn't happen, we just have to go to plan B, which is then to say, hey, Mr. Speaker, you can remove the filibuster, which he's probably unlikely to do.
00:08:59.000 Then plan C is call a special session.
00:09:02.000 And no one knows if the filibuster exists in the special session or not.
00:09:07.000 But plan C is, okay, even if they have the filibuster in the special session and we're in the special session and we have the filibuster, then just wait it out.
00:09:19.000 Just be like, hey, we're going to keep, we're going to do a vote carousel.
00:09:22.000 We're going to do it like the Speaker of the House with Kevin McCarthy and Speaker Johnson.
00:09:26.000 We're going to go all night, all day, and just every time, just, and then the constituents will get engaged and get involved.
00:09:33.000 So what is just, I, I want, Malia, you spend a lot of time with the people of Nebraska, not the politicians.
00:09:41.000 The people are some of the greatest in the country.
00:09:43.000 They're patriotic.
00:09:44.000 Absolutely.
00:09:45.000 They're faithful fighters.
00:09:47.000 Why, why are their leaders saying we have to wait till next year and we should just let Joe Biden become president?
00:09:54.000 Again, I think it just stems down to the fact that they're so complacent.
00:09:57.000 They're so comfortable.
00:09:58.000 They're so afraid of rocking the boat and going against the status quo.
00:10:02.000 We have a unicameral, so we only have one house in the body.
00:10:06.000 And the second house really is the people of Nebraska.
00:10:10.000 That's what we always tout.
00:10:11.000 And when we lobby together, we really have accomplished some amazing things.
00:10:15.000 We were able to call for a special session to vote against the vaccine mandates that went through successfully.
00:10:21.000 Let me interrupt.
00:10:22.000 So there's been special sessions called recently.
00:10:24.000 Yes.
00:10:25.000 Okay, so it's not unprecedented.
00:10:27.000 So how many special sessions have been called recently in the last five years?
00:10:30.000 I'm not sure.
00:10:31.000 I'm not sure about how many, but I know the last big one was definitely the vaccine mandates one.
00:10:38.000 And we had over a thousand people show up on the steps of the Capitol and demand that they call a special session.
00:10:45.000 And as that was happening.
00:10:46.000 We're going to have to do that again.
00:10:47.000 Sorry to interrupt, Malia, but you know, hey, what if we get 2,000 people to demand for a special session?
00:10:52.000 And I get Don Jr. and all this.
00:10:54.000 I'll come back the next week.
00:10:54.000 We have our event next week.
00:10:56.000 I'll come back the next week after that.
00:10:58.000 I mean, this is not child's play.
00:10:59.000 We're not dealing with happy talk.
00:11:01.000 And they're not used to this.
00:11:03.000 No, well, I'm not used to this whole thing.
00:11:06.000 And the whole thing is just something.
00:11:09.000 Malia, stay right there.
00:11:10.000 She's a superstar.
00:11:11.000 So that's great news.
00:11:12.000 So in 2021 or whatever, a thousand people go to the Capitol and they get a special session.
00:11:18.000 So, okay.
00:11:19.000 Let's say it fails through all this stuff.
00:11:21.000 We have our event next week.
00:11:22.000 Then we'll schedule another event the week after that.
00:11:25.000 I'll try to bring out Don Jr.
00:11:26.000 We'll try to bring out the whole folks and we'll try to do a whole thing at the Capitol.
00:11:30.000 Now, our event next week is in Omaha, where some of the swing districts are.
00:11:33.000 But if I have to come back to Nebraska, I will.
00:11:36.000 We're just going to keep on increasing the intensity here.
00:11:38.000 Look, the only way is forward or through.
00:11:41.000 I know that some people say, oh, you know, I want my country back.
00:11:43.000 You take your country back.
00:11:44.000 It doesn't come to you out of the skies like some stork drops your country at your doorstep.
00:11:49.000 Here's your country.
00:11:51.000 You got to take it back.
00:11:52.000 You got to seize it.
00:11:53.000 You got to use political power.
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00:13:17.000 Malia is with us.
00:13:18.000 She's great.
00:13:19.000 And I know we're dedicating a lot of time to Nebraska.
00:13:21.000 And unapologetically, this is this, look, we could talk about, you know, Ukraine and all that stuff.
00:13:25.000 We got civilizational defining stuff right now.
00:13:28.000 And we're right over the target.
00:13:30.000 So here's the one, two, three list.
00:13:32.000 And Malia, correct me if I'm wrong.
00:13:34.000 Number one is let's try to get this done by getting culture switching over.
00:13:40.000 Let's try to get that over, right?
00:13:41.000 Let's try to get culture switching, which is going to be tough, right?
00:13:45.000 It is, it's going to be tough, but we could try to do that.
00:13:48.000 And, but that's, that is the path of least resistance right now.
00:13:51.000 That right there.
00:13:52.000 The second option is let's nicely request, hey, governor, can you please do a special session on this if the session ends, right?
00:14:02.000 And then the third one is we go do the largest capital event in history and do what they try to do.
00:14:07.000 So tell me the story about the vaccine mandates.
00:14:09.000 I think that actually is a really interesting precedent.
00:14:12.000 So this was in 2022, I believe.
00:14:12.000 Yeah.
00:14:15.000 And they were, you know, they were still trying to pass all this crazy vaccine mandates between the hospital systems and even private, private practices and things like that.
00:14:27.000 And there really was a big medical freedom movement swell in Nebraska that brought out a lot of grassroots and people who had not previously been engaged.
00:14:37.000 So we really capitalized on that.
00:14:39.000 We coordinated with a lot of other grassroots organizations and the state grassroots leaders.
00:14:44.000 And we, on a day, and it was cold.
00:14:48.000 I know that it was in like the middle of winter.
00:14:50.000 And we had over a thousand people show up on the steps of the Capitol.
00:14:54.000 We had people emailing their senators.
00:14:58.000 And we had two legislative aides come out from the Capitol that day, hand us a handwritten note and say the session's being called.
00:15:06.000 And so senators can forward a special session.
00:15:10.000 Or the governor can as well.
00:15:12.000 I'm sorry, I interrupted you.
00:15:12.000 So say that again.
00:15:13.000 The second part, who else can call a special session?
00:15:15.000 The senators can call for a special session.
00:15:17.000 80% vote or something, right?
00:15:19.000 I'm not sure.
00:15:20.000 I know that you have to have one senator to call it.
00:15:22.000 And I think there has to be another one of support.
00:15:24.000 And then they do have to vote on it.
00:15:25.000 Yes.
00:15:26.000 I'm not sure on the numbers on it, but the senators can call.
00:15:29.000 So it's 80% to extend.
00:15:31.000 We'll find the exact numbers.
00:15:32.000 So it could be the governor or it could be this.
00:15:34.000 So we're not.
00:15:35.000 So since we are now of the mentality, we're not going to take no for an answer.
00:15:39.000 We are not going to allow that.
00:15:40.000 So, okay, let's just say the session evaporates and you guys didn't have priority.
00:15:43.000 The next moment that constitutionally provided session is over, we want to go into special session.
00:15:51.000 And so any senator could propose it.
00:15:53.000 Does it require the filibuster rules or is an up or down vote?
00:15:56.000 Or we'll have to look into that.
00:15:58.000 I think it still requires the filibuster rules.
00:16:00.000 We'll have to check on that.
00:16:01.000 But to my knowledge, the filibuster rules are applicable to every session, every vote.
00:16:06.000 So then the governor can still call the session outside of the vote to get a session.
00:16:12.000 He could just unilaterally call a session, right?
00:16:12.000 Is that correct?
00:16:15.000 Yes.
00:16:15.000 So that would be the easier way to do it.
00:16:18.000 And he can do it without having the votes for cloture.
00:16:18.000 Yes.
00:16:21.000 But historically, they haven't done so because it uses a lot of taxpayer dollars to cause or to call for a special session.
00:16:29.000 Well, yeah, I mean, saving the country might cost you a couple bucks, right?
00:16:32.000 I think people would likely be okay with that.
00:16:35.000 So the filibuster rules are not infinite.
00:16:38.000 It just requires waiting them out.
00:16:40.000 So if they have only one bill to pass, but they still have to get 33 for cloture.
00:16:44.000 That's why I'm not.
00:16:45.000 So, but if it's one bill, can't you just wait it out?
00:16:51.000 So the way that it works is depending on the round of debate that it's in, it can be if the speaker doesn't change it, it's eight hours, four hours, or two hours of filibuster, depending on the round.
00:17:02.000 At the end, they can run out the clock.
00:17:04.000 At the end of the clock, they have to vote on cloture and they need 33 votes for cloture.
00:17:10.000 If they don't attain that 33 votes, then the bill dies.
00:17:14.000 Yeah, I just, that rule seems so silly to me.
00:17:17.000 Just you got to change that rule.
00:17:18.000 I just, it doesn't make any sense to me.
00:17:21.000 Why in a red state would we have such a rule like that to give such a power to the minority?
00:17:26.000 See, and that's something that the grassroots have really been pushing for quite a few years now is trying to get that changed because that's one of the reasons that we can't get anything passed.
00:17:35.000 This year has been one of the first years where we've had a, quote, Republican majority.
00:17:40.000 That's with Senator McDonald switching his voter registration yesterday.
00:17:43.000 And even still, as you're seeing, we're struggling to attain that 33 stronghold vote.
00:17:48.000 It is remarkable.
00:17:50.000 Okay, Malia, a final marching hours here, orders.
00:17:53.000 We are on the case.
00:17:54.000 What are the following marching orders?
00:17:56.000 So if everyone can reach out to Senator McDonnell and Senator Grant and encourage them, even if they don't want to vote for the bill itself, vote yes on cloture.
00:18:06.000 Put it up for vote in the legislature on the floor.
00:18:10.000 We'll pass it without them.
00:18:11.000 Additionally, we have a rally with you coming up on Tuesday.
00:18:15.000 We'll have some America first candidates.
00:18:18.000 Dan Fry, he will be there.
00:18:19.000 He's running for CD2.
00:18:22.000 He is an amazing candidate.
00:18:23.000 He has been all over this while other congressional candidates have been pretty quiet about this.
00:18:29.000 So he'll be there as well.
00:18:31.000 And we want all hands on deck.
00:18:33.000 We want everybody involved.
00:18:34.000 Reach out to Speaker Arch.
00:18:36.000 Ask him to prioritize this, whether it's the bill, whether it's the amendment, and encourage him to change the rules on the filibuster.
00:18:43.000 See you next week, Malia.
00:18:44.000 Thanks so much.
00:18:46.000 We talk about all the problems of the country, and I'm a solution guy.
00:18:49.000 Solution, solution, solution.
00:18:51.000 And we have this opportunity for a solution.
00:18:53.000 And we got to seize it.
00:18:55.000 Yeah, it might be unprecedented or whatever.
00:18:58.000 Imagine if we just, I mean, imagine if at turning point, I just said, well, I don't know if we could do that.
00:19:02.000 You know, here's a good one.
00:19:03.000 Imagine if we just said back in October, well, I guess Rana's just going to be chair forever.
00:19:08.000 You know, maybe we can get rid of her in the future.
00:19:11.000 And we were relentless on that.
00:19:13.000 It wasn't just because of us.
00:19:14.000 There were other groups too.
00:19:15.000 President Trump deserves credit.
00:19:17.000 But according to the Associated Press, they said we get 10% credit for getting rid of Rana.
00:19:21.000 All right, 10% credit.
00:19:22.000 I'll take it.
00:19:23.000 You got to be relentless.
00:19:24.000 And I don't know if the Nebraska folks know just how relentless the turning point team could be on this stuff.
00:19:32.000 And relentless is not a bad thing.
00:19:33.000 It's just, we're just not going to stop talking about it.
00:19:36.000 All right.
00:19:36.000 And it's not about credit.
00:19:37.000 All right.
00:19:38.000 I don't care about that.
00:19:38.000 I want to win.
00:19:40.000 You know who deserves credit?
00:19:41.000 The governor deserves credit.
00:19:43.000 President Trump deserves credit, especially if we're able to get this thing across the finish line.
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00:20:52.000 There's very few people that are heroes in this country that deserve that title.
00:20:56.000 I have become an admirer of the tenacity and of the courage of this individual, Chloe Cole.
00:21:03.000 Chloe Cole is a victim, and I don't use that term lightly.
00:21:06.000 She's a victim of the transgender industry, the assembly line, the conveyor belt.
00:21:14.000 They put her through it.
00:21:15.000 They butchered her.
00:21:16.000 And Chloe Cole is one of the most outspoken detransitioners that talks about how the transgender industry harmed her.
00:21:26.000 And she speaks for the welfare of children across this country.
00:21:30.000 I'm going to play cut 91 of Chloe Cole telling part of her story, in particular in regards to Disney.
00:21:37.000 Let's play cut 91.
00:21:38.000 I am Chloe Cole, patient advocate for do no harm, a group that seeks accountability in the medical profession.
00:21:44.000 I am presenting proposal number seven titled Report on Gender Transitioning Compensation and Benefits, sponsored by National Legal and Policy Center.
00:21:52.000 Disney pays for gender transition interventions, but not detransitioning care.
00:21:57.000 Therefore, the company discriminates based on gender identity under EEOC regulations.
00:22:03.000 I speak from personal experience as someone who was deceived and physically harmed at a young age by gender ideology, validated by the medical industry and pushed to the masses by corporations like Disney.
00:22:15.000 Disney has become the Ursula that is stealing the voices of thousands of little aerials across the world by telling us that we can be something that we can never become.
00:22:23.000 The lawsuits are coming, sir.
00:22:25.000 It's only a matter of time before current or past employees whose bodies and lives have been irreversibly harmed will show up at your door looking for justice and restitution.
00:22:34.000 Chloe Cole is with us now.
00:22:35.000 Chloe, welcome to the program.
00:22:37.000 Tell us what you are doing with Disney, and thank you for your courage.
00:22:42.000 Thank you for having me, Charlie.
00:22:44.000 So the National Legal and Policy Center gave me the opportunity to speak at their annual shareholder meeting, which the NLPC is a shareholder.
00:22:52.000 So that means that they get to propose these measures.
00:22:55.000 And they gave me the opportunity to present this measure to cover insurance for detransitioning measures like they do with these gender interventions.
00:23:06.000 So Disney, so Disney pays for gender interventions for the transgender care, but not for detransitioning.
00:23:14.000 And then they voted this down.
00:23:16.000 Now, this was a very high-profile Disney shareholder meeting, largely because there was an effort to try to get rid of Bob Iger as CEO led by Nelson Peltz.
00:23:25.000 But this was not as reported.
00:23:27.000 Disney shareholders reject anti-trans policy in high-stakes annual meeting.
00:23:32.000 Tell us more about it.
00:23:33.000 Yes, and of course the measure was not passed, but I mainly wanted to raise awareness of the existence of young men and women and boys and girls like me who are harmed by these treatments and end up detransioning, as well as the harms of this ideology to corporate America.
00:23:49.000 So Chloe, tell our audience about your story and about how you were captured into the transgender butchering industry and the damage it did to you and why you continue to speak out about this topic.
00:24:04.000 So my experience with gender ideology began when I was about 12 years old.
00:24:10.000 I started feeling after years of experiencing autistic symptoms, of going through an early puberty and having body image disorder, that I just would be happier if I was a boy.
00:24:23.000 That I wasn't supposed to be born in the body that I was.
00:24:26.000 And I started calling myself by a boy name.
00:24:28.000 I started identifying as a boy.
00:24:31.000 And I was fast-tracked onto the path of medically transitioning at 13 with puberty blockers and testosterone.
00:24:38.000 And at 15 years old, I underwent a double mastectomy to surgically remove my breasts.
00:24:42.000 And it took less than a year for me to realize that all of this, every single part of this, I regretted it.
00:24:48.000 That I wanted my breasts back, that I wanted to be able to grow up into a woman, that I wanted to have children of my own.
00:24:54.000 And just what all this was taking from me.
00:24:57.000 You were 15 years old when they did a double mastectomy to you under the guise of gender-affirming care?
00:25:03.000 Yes, it was just the summer after my sophomore year had ended, actually.
00:25:08.000 And what was the promise that they made to you and these doctors that did that, that you would be happier and more comfortable in your own body?
00:25:17.000 Yes, the idea was that I would be closer to this identity that I had as my true self, as a man, through undergoing these treatments.
00:25:25.000 So now you have lifelong irreversible damage because of this.
00:25:30.000 And I know you're on the forefront.
00:25:33.000 Is there a way we can legally hold these butchers accountable?
00:25:36.000 And do you feel as if you were lied to by the American medical industry?
00:25:40.000 I absolutely was lied to.
00:25:43.000 My entire family was lied to.
00:25:45.000 There was no way that I could actually become a man through undergoing these treatments that would modify my body.
00:25:51.000 I would only become a woman with less parts and less function in my body.
00:25:57.000 And they told my mother and father that there was no other choice for me.
00:26:00.000 They were not given any other choice, not even to allow me to just grow up fully as a woman.
00:26:07.000 They were told that I would be at risk of committing suicide when I had not had been suicidal at all before.
00:26:13.000 And we have to hold these doctors accountable by introducing legislation to protect children and also through the lawsuits against these doctors.
00:26:20.000 Yes.
00:26:21.000 Are you involved in any current lawsuits against the doctors that did you harm?
00:26:25.000 Yes, I filed suit against my doctors who were involved in my transition and Kaiser Permanente, which was my healthcare provider.
00:26:31.000 What is the status of that legal complaint?
00:26:34.000 Right now, we are still in the preparatory phases.
00:26:37.000 Well, I'm glad you're doing that.
00:26:39.000 And so, I mean, these doctors, when they go through it and they remove your breasts and they put you on these chemical castration drugs, they say that's the only option.
00:26:53.000 What about watchful waiting?
00:26:55.000 You know what watchful waiting?
00:26:56.000 You know what it is.
00:26:56.000 Most gender-confused children grow out of it.
00:26:59.000 Landmark 15-year study concludes, as critics say it shows, being trans is usually just a phase for kids.
00:27:07.000 So, Chloe, we are butchering our children because of a social contagion.
00:27:13.000 I mean, it absolutely is a social contagion.
00:27:15.000 It's the amount of children, particularly young girls who have been referred to gender clinics, has increased exponentially just within the last decade by about 2,000 to 4,000%.
00:27:26.000 We need, it's obvious that the cure is just puberty.
00:27:29.000 By allowing these kids to grow up without any intervention, without modifying their bodies, they will grow out of this.
00:27:37.000 They will be okay.
00:27:38.000 They deserve to know that they are okay as they were born, that the way that they're made is beautiful, that that is a gift.
00:27:47.000 And by changing that, we are not allowing them to accept themselves.
00:27:52.000 And it is so the part you also mentioned, which is so cruel.
00:27:57.000 I hope people understand how widespread this is, by the way.
00:27:59.000 This is happening to tens of thousands of families.
00:28:01.000 And there's easily over 100,000 that are on hormone blockers or cross-hormone therapy on testosterone replacement therapy.
00:28:11.000 But the blackmail is a real thing where parents are said your kid is going to kill themselves if they don't get butchered.
00:28:20.000 Yet, according to a new study, attempted suicide rates more than double after gender reassignment surgery.
00:28:27.000 It's the opposite, actually, Chloe.
00:28:29.000 Your thoughts?
00:28:30.000 I mean, I had only, I was not suicidal at all until after I had been put on these treatments.
00:28:36.000 And it was after that I realized that this could potentially have taken away my ability to have kids, that I had lost years of my life off of my adolescence, which should have been some of my best years, that I became intensely suicidal.
00:28:52.000 Yes, I just, it is, it's, here's some of the numbers.
00:28:57.000 Rates of attempted suicide who identified as transgender more than doubled after receiving a vangioplasty, surgically turned one's private part into a vagina, according to a peer-reviewed study published in the Journal of Urology.
00:29:12.000 It's remarkable.
00:29:13.000 Chloe, final thoughts here.
00:29:15.000 What are, how could people support you and get behind the great work that you're doing?
00:29:19.000 So I'm active on Twitter and Instagram, and I also run a YouTube channel where I'm conducting interviews of other men and women who have detentioned as well.
00:29:27.000 And my username on all those platforms is the same.
00:29:29.000 It's C-H-O-O-C-O-L-E.
00:29:33.000 C-H-O-O-O-C-O-L-E.
00:29:35.000 Chloe, keep fighting.
00:29:36.000 You're a hero.
00:29:37.000 I know you receive a lot of death threats and a lot of opposition for what you're doing, but please continue fighting and God bless you.
00:29:45.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:29:46.000 Thank you.
00:29:48.000 Here she is at 12 years old, started to get put through the factory, the assembly line.
00:29:52.000 At 15, they put her down under general anesthesia to remove her breasts.
00:29:57.000 She still has gaping holes in her chest.
00:29:59.000 This is so cruel.
00:30:00.000 And Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer, Governor Inslee, they're all in support of this.
00:30:06.000 Zero speed bumps, no questions asked.
00:30:09.000 Oh, you're trans?
00:30:10.000 Let's get you scheduled for surgery.
00:30:12.000 And their life is altered permanently.
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00:31:19.000 I want to just, I don't do this as fear-mongering.
00:31:23.000 But if you live in Nebraska right now, or if you're in the Nebraska legislature, what would you tell your kids if all of a sudden the breaking news alerts come?
00:31:33.000 Donald Trump wins the state of Ohio.
00:31:35.000 Donald Trump wins the state of Iowa.
00:31:37.000 Donald Trump wins the state of North Carolina.
00:31:39.000 Donald Trump wins the state of Florida.
00:31:41.000 Donald Trump flips the state of Georgia.
00:31:43.000 Donald Trump flips the state of Arizona.
00:31:45.000 Donald Trump flips the state of Nevada.
00:31:47.000 Joe Biden wins Pennsylvania and Joe Biden wins Michigan and Joe Biden wins Wisconsin.
00:31:54.000 And they'll have that news alert across screen that Joe Biden is reelected with an electoral vote of 270 to 268.
00:32:05.000 But what if I told you that exact same outcome, that exact same result could happen if Nebraska were to change their rules?
00:32:17.000 We'll get them next time.
00:32:19.000 There's a low energy malaise that has infected the Republican Party that doesn't play to win.
00:32:29.000 I will say this, though.
00:32:31.000 You know, this is not even from Bush.
00:32:33.000 This is from something else.
00:32:35.000 And I know we have a call rove tape that we want to play here.
00:32:38.000 Dick Cheney would have got this done.
00:32:40.000 Let me say that again.
00:32:42.000 Dick Cheney would have got this done.
00:32:44.000 Dick Cheney played to win.
00:32:47.000 Dick Cheney played for keeps.
00:32:49.000 Dick Cheney would have had his whole political operation out in Lincoln.
00:32:54.000 They would have been playing hardball, hard to the wall, getting it done.
00:32:59.000 They wouldn't have been messing around.
00:33:01.000 And so, look, I got a lot of stuff going on.
00:33:03.000 I got a little one at home.
00:33:05.000 I got 450 employees.
00:33:07.000 We got 300,000 donors.
00:33:08.000 We got three hours of radio here.
00:33:10.000 I'm not saying this to complain, but we have the event now.
00:33:13.000 We're going.
00:33:14.000 We're going to Nebraska next week.
00:33:16.000 We have it all announced.
00:33:17.000 We're going to be promoting it.
00:33:18.000 I'm going to do this intentionally to provoke you, but I hope every lawmaker in Nebraska watches this tape right here of this grandma that very well might go to federal prison because she walked into the Capitol on January 6th.
00:33:32.000 And every lawmaker in Nebraska, are you guys comfortable with more of this happening?
00:33:36.000 It's in your hands potentially.
00:33:38.000 Play cut 94.
00:33:44.000 My own country is treating me like a criminal because I believe that my, they stole my rightful president.
00:33:55.000 And just standing up for my country, it makes me a criminal.
00:33:59.000 That's not right.
00:34:00.000 It feels so weird to be here.
00:34:04.000 Over three years ago, I was here.
00:34:06.000 Her country is treating her like a criminal, but you know what?
00:34:09.000 I'll be honest, the Republican Party doesn't have her back yet.
00:34:12.000 It should, and it can.
00:34:15.000 We don't treat illegals like the criminals that they are, but we treat our MAGA grannies, the grandmothers that went into the Capitol nonviolently.
00:34:26.000 We treat them like they're terrorists.
00:34:29.000 We need a complete and total mindset shift in the Republican Party.
00:34:34.000 We need to change our perspective, change our attitude.
00:34:38.000 Because I'll be honest, you want to know why we're losing the country.
00:34:41.000 We are not losing the country because of George Soros.
00:34:43.000 We are not losing the country because of Barack Obama.
00:34:46.000 We're not, no, no, no.
00:34:48.000 We're losing the country because the Republican Party has an attitude of losing, has an attitude of defeat, has an attitude of surrender.
00:34:59.000 And we're here to try to lead a right-wing revolution.
00:35:01.000 I understand what we've tried to do this week is historic, unprecedented, accelerated, but here we are.
00:35:07.000 This attitude that we're going to try again next year, cut that out.
00:35:13.000 That is not how Americans think.
00:35:15.000 We have a grittiness.
00:35:16.000 We have a resolve.
00:35:17.000 We have a solution-focused can-do attitude in this country that we could do anything that we put our mind to.
00:35:24.000 Anything.
00:35:25.000 We're the toughest in the world.
00:35:27.000 We need our leaders to start to reflect that.
00:35:30.000 That urgency is necessary.
00:35:33.000 So we're not going to lay off.
00:35:34.000 We are going to be relentless.
00:35:36.000 Okay, the bill might fail.
00:35:37.000 We're going to do it again.
00:35:38.000 Oh, the bill might fail, special session.
00:35:39.000 Oh, they're not going to call it rally on the Capitol.
00:35:42.000 Oh, they're going to ignore us.
00:35:43.000 2,000 people.
00:35:44.000 Oh, they're going to ignore us again.
00:35:45.000 Try to get Trump involved.
00:35:47.000 Okay, we're going to keep on upping the ante.
00:35:49.000 We've just started to fight because this country is worth it.
00:35:55.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:35:56.000 Everybody, email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:35:59.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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