00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, Phil Klein from the Amistad Project joins us about the most interfered with corrupt election of my lifetime, maybe in American history.
00:00:09.000We have a lot of discussions about Wisconsin and ballot drop boxes and what the people can do.
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00:03:05.000With the latest state of play and Sarah Ferris and Marianne Levine and Nancy Vu.
00:03:11.000Well, my goodness, a lot of authors of that article.
00:03:13.000Democrats are starting to come to grips with the, quote, looming election reform defeat, and quote, grapple, openly grappling with what to tell their voters when they come up short.
00:03:27.000Frontline House Democrats, eager to boost their prospects in November, are urging their party leadership to break up Build Back Better into a series of votes on popular planks.
00:03:38.000Even if that means giving up one grand bill, even if those bills have no shot of becoming law.
00:03:44.000The Washington Post's Mariana Sotomayor reports that leadership has been cool to this idea so far.
00:03:51.000While some frontliners want to focus more on selling the infrastructure law and other accomplishments.
00:03:56.000And Stenny Hoyer says, quote, the tension was surfaced in a meeting earlier this month.
00:04:01.000And the second highest ranking member of their caucus, Susan Wilde from Pennsylvania, says, I don't care, telling Hoyer that House Democrats should spend the year sending bills to the Senate with the hope of bipartisan deals that could be reached on issues important to a broad range of voters.
00:04:20.000These Democrats are talking more like Japanese kamikaze pilots than politicians.
00:04:28.000They seem far more focused on trying to run the country into the ground.
00:04:31.000And it does kind of feel as if they all know, whether they say it out loud or they say it in private or they don't say it at all, that this is the last dance.
00:04:42.000They know that they're never going to be back in leadership again.
00:04:45.000Stenny Hoyer, not exactly on the front nine.
00:04:51.000Stenny Hoyer is being challenged from every possible direction from AOC and Ayoda Presley.
00:04:58.000And yes, if AOC continues to stay in the House, one day AOC will be in leadership of the House Democrat caucus.
00:05:05.000However, will they be in the majority or not?
00:05:09.000The Democrats know that they barely squeaked by this last election.
00:05:15.000They barely squeaked by when it came to mass mail and voting, when it came to the Center for Technology and Civic Life putting in $400 million into this last election.
00:05:28.000And House Democrats are basically saying, we know this ship is going down.
00:05:41.000And the consensus amongst the septogenarian and octogenarian ruling class of the Democrat Party is: well, we might as well get everything we possibly can get done to help accelerate the destruction of the country.
00:05:56.000The Democrats, in a lot of different ways, are less interested and less focused on any sort of political consequence.
00:06:10.000In fact, they're coming into this believing we're going to lose 50 or 60 or 70 seats in the House no matter what.
00:06:17.000Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer is forcing votes on Democrats' election reform proposals and the Senate filibuster this week in a move to draw a line between Democrats and Republicans on voting rights, saying, but one that will also shine a spotlight on Democrats' intra-party divisions.
00:06:35.000Quote, we will be postponing recess so the Senate can vote on voting rights.
00:06:40.000We will return on Tuesday to take up the House passed message containing voting rights legislation.
00:06:46.000Quote, members of this chamber were elected to debate and to vote, particularly on issues vital to the beating heart of our democracy as this one.
00:07:34.000It could be the death of the Democrat Party for this generation, where AOC, Ayanna Presley, Corey Bush, they get used to being in the minority like Republicans are used to being in the minority in California.
00:07:50.000It is more than possible that Democrats lose so horribly coming up in November and the subsequent years that they're going to struggle to get back into power in Congress in the foreseeable future.
00:08:04.000Now, if Democrats were smart, they would embrace kind of a Matthew McConaughey energy.
00:08:09.000Kind of like, do what you want to do with your life, and we're not going to tell you what to do.
00:08:14.000And if you want to get the vaccine, whatever, and we'll give you kind of some universal basic income, and we need universal health care.
00:08:23.000Democrats used to really understand that kind of voter.
00:08:29.000Barack Obama was an expert in winning over that community of kind of socially liberal, economically moderate.
00:08:38.000They think the whole system is kind of broken, but don't tell me what to do type of liberal.
00:08:45.000They've completely disenfranchised that entire community.
00:08:49.000In fact, now you have people like Joe Rogan, amongst others, that are trending in the not just conservative direction, but the anti-institutional, anti-pharma, people-centered direction, people-centered direction.
00:09:06.000Democrats, we know they're a dumpster fire, but in some ways we have to wonder: are they saving something for the end?
00:09:15.000Are they saving something that might surprise us or shock us as we're heading towards this November midterm election?
00:09:22.000And I've said this for quite some time: that do not underestimate and do not discount the Democrat Party to try to have some sort of surprise as it comes into the midterms.
00:09:37.000It could be something with Roe versus Wade.
00:09:42.000It could be a variety of different things.
00:09:45.000But what's happening right now on Capitol Hill, it seems as if their attempts to revolutionize and nationalize our voting systems are not just coming up short, they're failing miserably.
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00:11:19.000James Madison famously said, if men were angels, no government would be necessary.
00:11:24.000The quote actually continues to say something of the sort that men are not angels, and that's why we must limit government.
00:11:31.000We have an amazing system, a constitutional system, a constitutional republic.
00:11:36.000It recognizes that rights are given to us by God, not from government.
00:11:41.000It recognizes that in the state of nature, we have the right to privacy, the right to speech, the right to protect ourselves.
00:11:49.000And the founding fathers, the framers, did an amazing job of creating a contract, a partnership that was unique in its structure that allowed for the separation of powers, checks and balances, that allowed for an independent judiciary.
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00:13:40.000Now, one of the promises of the Constitution is to recognize that the states created the federal government.
00:13:48.000The federal government did not create the states.
00:13:52.000This is an incredibly important dynamic.
00:13:54.000Everything the Democrats are trying to do is try to destroy state sovereignty, centralize power.
00:14:01.000And there's a lot of reasons why this is dangerous and immoral.
00:14:04.000When you centralize power, you better be right.
00:14:08.000When you centralize power, there is no room for error.
00:14:12.000This is why not only is liberty a better moral idea, the pursuit of virtue, but also it allows for customization, individuality.
00:14:22.000It allows for individuals, for families, for people, for communities to associate the way they see fit.
00:14:29.000That the people in Manhattan are going to have a lot of different lifestyle choices and demands than the people in Enid, Oklahoma.
00:14:38.000However, Mayor Bowser, who is the mayor of Washington, D.C., is making a bizarre argument saying that we cannot talk about voting rights without talking about the disenfranchisement of 700,000 taxpaying Americans right here in Washington, D.C. All the racial argument is going to come home to all of a sudden trying to give statehood to Washington, D.C.
00:15:03.000Now, despite the fact that the Constitution explicitly prohibits Washington, D.C. from becoming a state, Mayor Bowser continues.
00:15:26.000Because we cannot talk about voting rights without talking about the disenfranchisement of 700,000 taxpaying Americans right here in Washington, D.C.
00:15:38.000A legacy of slavery in Jim Crow America.
00:15:42.000Today we're talking about the filibuster, but consider this.
00:15:46.000We wouldn't even be in this situation if Washington, D.C. had two senators, the two senators we deserve.
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00:18:20.000You have been unafraid to tell the truth about every single one of the dynamics surrounding this.
00:18:26.000I just want to compliment you and congratulate you because you talked about for quite some time there was some action that was going to happen in Wisconsin.
00:18:35.000Thank you, Charlie, and thank you for all that you do.
00:18:38.000Wisconsin and the decision of the court confirms what we've been saying for some time now, and that is that private monies of leftist interests hijacked government campaign offices to get government involved in partisan efforts to benefit Mr. Biden.
00:18:56.000And they did that by violating the laws.
00:19:00.000And here in Wisconsin, it was at the behest of the left-leaning Wisconsin Election Commission, who worked with Zuckerberg and all these private interests and all these nonprofits to inject efforts for the government office to target Biden voters in the Democratic urban core and turn out those voters.
00:19:21.000And it didn't just happen in Wisconsin.
00:19:23.000It happened in Michigan, in Georgia, in Pennsylvania, and all the swing states.
00:19:28.000And the drop boxes, the judge says, were illegal in Wisconsin.
00:19:33.000Zuckerberg money and leftist money put drop boxes illegally in the urban core.
00:19:40.000So in these Democrat strongholds, you can hardly walk down the street without voting.
00:19:44.000Meanwhile, through leftist governors and others in these swing states, they were making it harder to vote in person and harder to vote in Republican strongholds or rural areas by shutting down in-person polling places claiming COVID.
00:19:58.000So the government got involved in the Biden campaign in 2020, and they're planning to do it again.
00:20:06.000So, Phil, I have so many questions about this, and I want to just congratulate you and compliment you.
00:20:13.000You have really went all in, and you've decided not to let this go, and you deserve to be really thanked for that.
00:20:20.000So, my first question is: how is it possible that during the 2020 election, let's say August, September, and October of 2020, the Republican Party or the Trump campaign or any of the Senate campaigns that were going on, why was there no legal activity or challenging what now judges are admitting is illegal?
00:20:38.000I mean, according to this story right here, it says Waukesha County Circuit Court Judge Michael Bowrin determined, quote, there is no statutory authority to allow for either practice of ballot drop boxes.
00:20:52.000Why is it, Phil, that in January of 2020, we have to get a ruling on this?
00:20:57.000Why couldn't we get it in October of 2020?
00:21:10.000One is the unprecedented nature of this structure, but they shouldn't have been caught flat-footed.
00:21:17.000And the real weakness here, Charlie, is state legislatures.
00:21:22.000All around the nation, state legislatures who have the constitutional responsibility to determine the time, place, manner of elections, and the manner in which presidential electors are selected for the Electoral College have delegated all their authority to the executive branch of government, which is under the direction of the governor or and or the Secretary of State.
00:21:47.000And they in turn have delegated all that authority down to local election officials and have set up a process where whatever the count is, it is verified.
00:21:58.000In other words, nobody's really checking the election and how it's managed.
00:22:05.000And in fact, the legislature, which has the authority in most of these states, doesn't even meet between election day and the certification of election.
00:22:14.000So what we've done is we've separated political responsibility, which is in the legislature, from political actual authority, which is now at local officials that nobody knows, from political accountability.
00:22:29.000And when you do that, you always get bad government.
00:22:33.000I spoke with more legislators over the past couple of years who don't know their own authority, don't know their own responsibility than I ever have or anticipated I would in my entire life.
00:22:45.000We don't have anybody minding the shop.
00:22:48.000And the courts are reluctant to get involved in reversing elections.
00:22:55.000You can understand the problem that you might face if the American people believe the popular vote was overturned by a group of unelected, unaccountable, appointed for life judges.
00:23:07.000So essentially what the Supreme Court is saying is one, it's very, very rare for us to get involved.
00:23:13.000And it's hard to be able to prove sufficient evidence to get involved between election day and the day that elections are certified.
00:23:21.000And the responsibility is with state legislators.
00:23:29.000We still haven't passed the laws we need.
00:23:31.000We still haven't gotten them engaged in the management of elections in the way that we need to.
00:23:36.000So that was kind of lengthy, but in the short explanation, our leaders in this nation like the ability to claim credit and cast blame.
00:23:46.000And so we've set up systems where we can blame somebody else for the problem without having to take the responsibility for it, and we can take credit for it.
00:23:56.000And that's what we've done with elections.
00:23:58.000We've given the authority to people who have no political accountability.
00:24:01.000In CUT 44, I want to play some tape of you talking to the Wisconsin legislature in December of 2020.
00:24:09.000With a launch of litigation, primarily initiated by organizations tied to the left, their viscerite protections of the absentee ballot and its integrity.
00:24:21.000They attacked even delivering the election or the ballot to the clerk.
00:24:26.000They claimed that drop boxes were mandated by the Constitution.
00:24:30.000And soon afterwards, in March of 2020, a man by the name of David Plouffe published a book called The Citizen's Guide for Defeating Donald Trump.
00:24:40.000That guy, by the way, and David Plouf, was the former campaign manager of President Obama.
00:24:45.000At the time, he was working for Mark Zuckerberg and his wife, Priscilla Chan.
00:24:49.000And in that book, he said that this election will be determined by a block-by-block street fight to turn out the vote in Detroit, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia.
00:25:00.000And so this was back in December of 2020.
00:25:03.000I want to read it in part from this Federalist article.
00:25:07.000In Wisconsin, the law states that no person can, quote, receive a ballot from or give a ballot to another person other than the election official in charge.
00:25:15.000Despite this, the Wisconsin Election Commission sent a memo to clerks, municipal clerks ahead of the election saying, quote, a family member or another person may also return the ballot on behalf of a voter.
00:25:27.000That sure looks like an illegally conducted election, Phil.
00:25:30.000And you're right, the state legislatures, they typically don't do their job.
00:25:35.000We're trying to push for them to do their job and try to make kind of get them into gear.
00:25:42.000Well, we need to pass legislation that requires a standing committee of the legislature with equal membership of both parties that is charged with the responsibility of reviewing the election process and making a recommendation as to whether the election should be certified and identifying any violations of law or statute.
00:26:04.000And one of the keys to a successful election is transparency.
00:26:08.000And 2020 was the least transparent election in United States history because America was kicked out of the counting room and a billionaire invited in or multiple billionaires invited in.
00:26:18.000So the legislature needs to get engaged.
00:26:21.000And the other thing here, Charlie, that is real important, and it's more of a cultural issue, something that you address all the time, and it is our deconstruction of truth.
00:26:30.000And in that testimony before the legislature, right before it, I heard an election clerk testify, a leftist election clerk.
00:26:39.000And he said, the reason we have drop boxes is because the law is vague.
00:26:43.000You look at the language of the law and it says the ballot must be delivered to the clerk.
00:27:05.000What is happening in this country is when you deconstruct language, you are lawless.
00:27:11.000America is a nation of laws, but we're one of the most lawless nations in elections on the face of the earth now because we've deconstructed the meaning of language to the point that you can manipulate the words and use the law to do what you want rather than seeing the law as a proscription against what you cannot do.
00:27:32.000So this deconstruction of culture, deconstruction of words, the elimination of truth, and you know this, you've spoken to this often, leads us at a place where it's just might make s right.
00:27:44.000Whoever has authority can make the rules, however they want to make the rules.
00:28:13.000We have to get it back to a clear understanding of the language that we use and the purpose of government being to respect individual liberty and see the intrinsic value of every human being.
00:28:25.000And if we don't get there, we're in a circular firing squat right now in this country.
00:28:40.000I'm sure a lot of people right now are now connecting the dots and they are connected.
00:28:44.000And you're not allowed to say this out loud, but as soon as you have a 14-year-old that's told that there's no difference between a man and a woman, then what's a clerk?
00:28:53.000You could be trans-election, like just whatever you want.
00:28:57.000And a human being is to be valued one second after it leaves the birth canal, but could be destroyed for any reason right prior.
00:29:06.000This moral relativism destroys the rule of law, and it all becomes about power.
00:29:12.000I can't possibly think of a better way to word that.
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00:30:37.000Phil, are you optimistic or pessimistic that coming into November, we are not going to have a repeat?
00:30:44.000What is to prevent Zuckerberg or Bezos or any one of these kleptocrats to come in with $400 million and do what they did in 2020 in the 2022 midterms?
00:31:00.000The laws that have been passed are putting the finger in the dike and not engaged in the fundamental structural reform we need to make sure we have transparent, inclusive, and accountable elections.
00:31:20.000What they did is say, you can't use private money unless it's appropriated by a city, a county, or the state.
00:31:25.000Well, that's exactly what Zuckerberg and the left did with their nonprofit money.
00:31:30.000They gave it to cities who don't even have the responsibility of managing the election, but were leftists and in Democrat strongholds, and those cities appropriated the money.
00:31:40.000So a lot of people are taking credit for changing things.
00:31:47.000And the American Voters Alliance, which is affiliated with us, and it's the Amistad Project, Charlie, and American Voters Alliance, which is engaged in this.
00:31:57.000And we've got policy proposals, best practices that we hope will be adopted.
00:32:03.000And so I'd encourage your listeners and viewers to go to the AmericanVotersAli.org and sign up and get involved.
00:32:10.000And we're going to be announcing the reform package here pretty soon.
00:32:18.000Zuckerberg was only a funder, and he wasn't even the largest funder of the effort.
00:32:24.000We've tracked over $1.7 billion of services and monies that were moved through leftist nonprofits that dictated the way the election would be run to benefit a candidate.
00:33:04.000Well, people need to sign up and be educated.
00:33:07.000And at the American Voters Alliance, we will help inform you, we will help engage you, and we will teach you the language to use to try to have an impact at the local level.
00:33:19.000I believe that conservatism generally wins at the local level.
00:33:26.000It's written upon our heart what fairness means, that elections ought to have everybody in the counting room making sure that things are operated quickly, that in elections across the state, every voter and every ballot should be treated the same.
00:33:41.000It's just at the leadership level where it's about power that we lose those things.
00:33:47.000So if we break it down at the local level and you get engaged, you learn what is a key to an election that respects every valid vote and every valid voter, then you can make a difference at the local level, at the state level.
00:34:04.000We have to stop nationalizing all these issues, which the Democrats are trying to do right now with the passage of their voter rights bill, which is nothing but really taking what they did that was unlawful and improper in 2020 and codifying it into federal law and then shoving it down the state's throats.
00:34:22.000We need to get involved at the state level.
00:34:24.000And conservative politics ought to be about local control.
00:34:29.000And every issue, pretty much, except equal treatment, ought to be across the nation.
00:34:33.000Education is where a parent, a teacher, and a child interact, not in Washington, D.C. Elections are run at the local level, and they need to treat every voter and ballot equally.
00:34:43.000Funds are best spent at the local level where people experience the problems and can identify solutions.
00:34:49.000That's where we need to go philosophically, consistently.
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