The Charlie Kirk Show - A Dire Midterm Polling Update for Democrats with Richard Baris

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Tan the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:01.000 What are the new results out of Ohio mean for the midterms?

00:00:04.000 Are Democrats favored to win anything at all?

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00:01:20.000 I want to lead with this one thing.

00:01:21.000 I have a friend of mine who's a wonderful American from Dallas who's in real estate, probably one of the top private owners of apartment buildings in the country.

00:01:32.000 And he just said, hey, Charlie, I want you to see these rent inflation crazy numbers.

00:01:36.000 I'm not going to say his name just to, you know, for obvious reasons.

00:01:39.000 But so this is the last 30 move-ins.

00:01:42.000 Okay.

00:01:43.000 So Phoenix, for example, for the last 30, the average prior rent used to be $13.25 a month for his, and he owns apartment buildings all over Phoenix.

00:01:53.000 Now it's $1,693 a month.

00:01:55.000 That means that rent has gone up 27.8% on average in Phoenix in his last 30 move-ins.

00:02:03.000 Austin, 23%.

00:02:04.000 San Antonio, 21%.

00:02:06.000 Dallas-Fort Worth, 18%.

00:02:08.000 North Carolina, 16%.

00:02:10.000 Houston, 15%.

00:02:12.000 The real inflation rate, I said this the other day, and someone laughed at me, but when they laugh at us, that's how you know we're probably right.

00:02:19.000 I said the real inflation rate is 35%.

00:02:21.000 I said it's right near there.

00:02:22.000 For working people, that's about where it is.

00:02:24.000 If you count gas, you count food, you count travel, you count all that other stuff.

00:02:28.000 So Andrew and I were talking in the break.

00:02:29.000 He says, I don't know.

00:02:30.000 I don't know.

00:02:30.000 Have we peaked too early? Andrew said.

00:02:32.000 Have Republicans, are we going to be able to sustain this in November?

00:02:35.000 I said, look at these rent numbers.

00:02:36.000 You're trying to tell me people are going to keep the people in charge over this.

00:02:39.000 I don't know, but someone who does know is Richard Barris from the People's Pundit.

00:02:44.000 And he's wearing a tie just to make me look bad.

00:02:46.000 Big data polls, Richard Barris.

00:02:48.000 Richard, welcome back to the program.

00:02:51.000 Hey, thanks for having me back.

00:02:52.000 I appreciate it.

00:02:55.000 So a lot to unpack here.

00:02:57.000 Let's start with kind of what happened in Ohio.

00:03:00.000 What does that message send?

00:03:02.000 What does your polling show?

00:03:03.000 How big of a deal is what just happened in Ohio?

00:03:07.000 You know, it's a big deal, Charlie, for the future of the party, the direction of the party.

00:03:12.000 You know, the Trump endorsed candidates outside of JD Vance even did great.

00:03:17.000 There was the first congressional district in Indiana.

00:03:21.000 She won.

00:03:22.000 So, you know, I mean, there's, and, oh, and by the way, Ohio 9.

00:03:26.000 So that was a race the media definitely was watching and trying to take out, you know, take down the Trump endorsed candidate.

00:03:34.000 He did pull it off and he did incredible in the outside of Toledo, which is where a lot of people thought that Gabaroni would do better.

00:03:42.000 You know, so in the end, if you look at where Vance specifically got his support from, the reason I think a lot of these polls messed up outside of Vance is 100% correct.

00:03:52.000 Outside of Remington, which was polling for another campaign, they were just wrong.

00:03:57.000 Some of the other public polls didn't really catch Vance's full support because when a pollster does a likely voter model, I suspected this was happening and it did.

00:04:07.000 There were those new Trump lickings, they're not really Republicans.

00:04:10.000 Ohio has a lot of them.

00:04:12.000 And they'll tell you, I'm going to vote.

00:04:14.000 I'm likely to vote, or I'm certain to vote.

00:04:16.000 But then the pollster will go back and look at vote history.

00:04:18.000 And in a primary, if they're not a two out of four voter, meaning they voted in at least two out of the last four primaries, they'll get screened out.

00:04:27.000 And because these voters are newly Republican and it's closed primary, they didn't have much vote history.

00:04:34.000 And you could see it all over Mahoning, Albert Youngstown, Trumbull, the election day in Wood in the Northwest, just south of Toledo.

00:04:43.000 That was Trump vote.

00:04:44.000 That is Trump vote.

00:04:46.000 And then Vance did excellent, obviously, in Cleveland, Hamilton County, and the suburbs around it.

00:04:53.000 So at the end of the day, it sent a very clear message.

00:04:57.000 The president still has a very strong grip on the Republican Party, without a doubt.

00:05:02.000 So, okay, so heading into November, how do we feel?

00:05:05.000 There is this Washington Post story that says that Democrats have now taken the lead on the generic ballot.

00:05:09.000 Is that right?

00:05:10.000 What does that mean?

00:05:11.000 Do Republicans ever lead in the generic ballot?

00:05:14.000 How do you think things are trending?

00:05:15.000 It's still early, but where do you think we're ending?

00:05:17.000 We're kind of gonna things are gonna shake out coming into November. 0.97

00:05:22.000 That poll, along with the youGov poll, is garbage. 0.97

00:05:26.000 I'll just get more aggressive as time goes on here because they have no shame. 0.96

00:05:30.000 I mean, that is the poll that had Biden up by 17 points in the state of Wisconsin.

00:05:36.000 And they, even in their own polling, when they asked who do you trust more to handle on the issues on all of the top issues, Republicans have double-digit leads.

00:05:47.000 So I don't know how you have a 20-point lead for Republicans on trust to handle inflation, inflation being the number one issue in your poll, and yet Democrats have a one-point lead.

00:05:57.000 I mean, Charlie, it's just this is getting to the point of fraud.

00:06:00.000 It really is.

00:06:01.000 I mean, it's beyond.

00:06:02.000 We have polling disagreements.

00:06:04.000 This is fraud.

00:06:07.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that's, I think that's so smart.

00:06:09.000 And I mean, inflation.

00:06:10.000 So let's go through the issues.

00:06:11.000 What are the top three issues, Richard, that you're seeing?

00:06:13.000 Not in California, like whatever, but in like the districts that matter in the states that matter.

00:06:17.000 What are the top three issues for voters right now?

00:06:21.000 So we always ask, we say cost of living, you know, slash inflation, because it means different things to different people.

00:06:28.000 The economy and jobs, COVID is a single-digit issue now.

00:06:32.000 There was a time when crime and immigration were battling for number three.

00:06:37.000 We're in the field this week.

00:06:38.000 So we'll have brand new numbers soon.

00:06:40.000 For that past month, national security and national security and foreign policy did tie for number three because what happened is that some of those crime and immigration voters with everything that was going on in Ukraine became interested in that.

00:06:58.000 Now, strangely, that doesn't mean people favored more intervention in Ukraine, not at all.

00:07:04.000 In fact, many of them chose that issue because they were worried that Joe Biden may escalate it.

00:07:09.000 So even on that issue in our polling, Republicans had a 17-point lead on national security voters, on jobs in the economy.

00:07:18.000 It was 21 points for Republicans, but jobs in the economy, and about 19 points for inflation.

00:07:24.000 So, you know, again, this is the problem Democrats are going to have: COVID, healthcare, the environment, you know, things that people trust Democrats more on traditionally.

00:07:37.000 They're just not at the forefront of people's minds.

00:07:40.000 Even abortion, Charlie, which we've been hammering for 36 hours now, even abortion is not necessarily a Democratic issue anymore.

00:07:48.000 So it wasn't in Virginia, and they tried at the last minute to make that an issue.

00:07:52.000 Glenn Young carried those voters up by eight points.

00:07:56.000 So it depends what district we're in, but generally it's gas, it's groceries, it's housing and shelter.

00:08:03.000 You know, because we do ask specifically about cost of living, and that's it.

00:08:08.000 Yeah.

00:08:09.000 And so, and so how favored are Republicans on that particular issue?

00:08:14.000 Double digits, you know, around 20 points.

00:08:18.000 When, you know, anywhere between, it's usually around 18 to 22 points.

00:08:22.000 That's a fair, that's a fair range, month to month, and even district to district.

00:08:27.000 You know, there are districts out there right now.

00:08:30.000 We just, we're in one right now that's out in California.

00:08:33.000 Biden won this district by 12 points.

00:08:35.000 And voters, including Hispanic voters, overwhelmingly trust Republicans on the issues that they're citing as their top issues.

00:08:44.000 And it's a little bit different.

00:08:45.000 There's some local, local considerations in these races.

00:08:49.000 But at this point, it's like Charlie, they gave them time to prove their worth.

00:08:56.000 That's the way voters feel at this moment.

00:08:58.000 They gave them time to prove their worth, to keep things generally the same quality of living, only to change all of these things that they said was wrong under were wrong under Donald Trump.

00:09:09.000 And that didn't happen.

00:09:11.000 So at this point, there's so little Democrats can do to change the narrative of this election or the trajectory of this election.

00:09:21.000 There's so little.

00:09:22.000 You look at the results last night.

00:09:24.000 Look at the turnout disparity in Ohio.

00:09:26.000 Look at that.

00:09:27.000 And that's just unbelievable.

00:09:30.000 Unbelievable.

00:09:32.000 Yeah, I mean, I think it's only going to get worse.

00:09:34.000 I mean, the Democrats are going to try to do the Roe versus Wade thing, but we must understand that the turnout in Ohio will play Steve Karnaki, where Karnaki said that Republican turnout was up about 28%.

00:09:47.000 Democrat turnout was down significantly. 0.61

00:09:50.000 Those are good signs for any party. 0.99

00:09:52.000 You want your primary turnout up year over year, and you want the opposition party to be down.

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00:11:13.000 I want to play a tape here.

00:11:14.000 Do we have that Steve Karnaki tape?

00:11:16.000 Okay.

00:11:17.000 Play Cut 59.

00:11:18.000 What Ohio looks like.

00:11:20.000 Democratic turnout down 27% in their primary relative to 2018.

00:11:25.000 On the Republican side, turnout up.

00:11:28.000 South Jersey, you know, was the Republican area, the core Republican area in South Jersey where that red wave really hit.

00:11:34.000 The turnout dwarfed what you saw in North Jersey, which is, you know, which is the reason that was a three-point race.

00:11:41.000 Republican enthusiasm.

00:11:43.000 Yep.

00:11:43.000 And we've seen it in our polling.

00:11:45.000 You're starting to see it here again.

00:11:47.000 Two's not a pattern, but two is concerning if you're on the D side of the aisle right now, Steve.

00:11:54.000 Richard, your thoughts?

00:11:56.000 It hasn't been to.

00:11:58.000 I don't know what they're talking about.

00:12:00.000 You know, their polls showed in Virginia that Terry McAuliffe was going to win because the electorate was going to be D plus something.

00:12:07.000 In truth, the electorate was D plus barely won, which it should not have been, Charlie.

00:12:13.000 Out in California, even.

00:12:14.000 When you look at that first round for Devin Nunez's seat in that special, Connie Conway came in first. 0.62

00:12:22.000 Now, it's a Republican district, but Democrats are not supposed to get 22% of the vote.

00:12:27.000 They got clobbered in Texas.

00:12:30.000 We all forget about Texas because they want their polls to show that governor's race is going to be tight.

00:12:35.000 It is not going to be tight.

00:12:37.000 Greg Abbott's going to win there.

00:12:39.000 He's going to win in a landslide.

00:12:41.000 The turnout was incredibly disproportionate.

00:12:44.000 But this is what we would expect. 0.63

00:12:46.000 And again, when you think about that, when you look at those garbage polls we talked about in the last segment, like you gov, folks, that's a D plus nine poll.

00:12:55.000 In no universe, outside of poorly designed panel polls, is there such thing as a D plus nine elector.

00:13:02.000 It simply doesn't exist.

00:13:04.000 So it shows you.

00:13:06.000 So tell us there is a trend.

00:13:08.000 So tell us Richard, really quick, what.

00:13:09.000 What's your polling on?

00:13:10.000 The Roe Versus Wade abortion deal.

00:13:12.000 Tell us what you got. 0.96

00:13:14.000 Yeah, so we're gonna.

00:13:15.000 We're doing this again right now just to get it updated.

00:13:19.000 But Charlie, we've been looking at abortion in detail for a long time and the truth is, is simple, Democrats and some of the weaker weak you know Republican leaders that that follow and believe it.

00:13:31.000 They want Republicans to stay in this constructed box they created for this debate back in the 1990s.

00:13:39.000 The pro-life versus pro-choice designation is very close.

00:13:43.000 Um, we normally have it a point or three points in in any direction any given month.

00:13:49.000 So maybe it's pro-choice.

00:13:51.000 Uh last, you know, two months ago, it's pro-life.

00:13:54.000 That buy one or two points the next month.

00:13:56.000 It's very close.

00:13:57.000 Uh, now it was not.

00:13:59.000 It's not like it was in the late mid to late 90s and then early 2000s.

00:14:04.000 Uh, science has.

00:14:05.000 I've said this a million times, but it's true.

00:14:08.000 Science has not been kind to the pro-choice movement, and here's the problem.

00:14:12.000 They have a lot of people, which benefits.

00:14:15.000 The Democrats don't really understand what Roe V. Wade Does.

00:14:18.000 So when we ask them about it, the ignorance level is quite high.

00:14:21.000 But we know this on all of these different state bills, the Heartbeat Bill, the Pain Protection Act, the 20 weeks, late-term abortion bans, the pro-choice voter, meaning voters who identify as pro-choice, still support restrictions on abortion.

00:14:38.000 And ironically, you know, the liberal man has been using American women on this issue for years because women who identify as pro-choice are much more likely than men who identify as pro-choice to support these restrictions.

00:14:54.000 Overall, if you look at something like late-term abortion, two-thirds, Charlie, overall support a ban on late-term abortion.

00:15:03.000 Among those who identify as pro-choice, 60% of women versus a bare majority of men.

00:15:10.000 And then even on the Pain Protection Act, it's much more for women are by majority, even those who identify as pro-choice by majority still support banning abortion after a baby can feel pain in 20 weeks.

00:15:23.000 So we've, every time there's a state who releases their own version of it, we've tested it over the years.

00:15:29.000 And Americans don't support unfettered abortion.

00:15:32.000 They don't.

00:15:35.000 It's really out of control.

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00:18:47.000 So tppac.com.

00:18:49.000 Is that the better way to say it, Andrew?

00:18:50.000 Right?

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00:18:55.000 We'll talk about what we're actually going to be doing.

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00:18:57.000 And with us is the mastermind, chief strategist, and chief troublemaker for Turning Point PAC, Tyler Boyer.

00:19:03.000 Tyler, how's it going?

00:19:06.000 Charlie, we're doing great.

00:19:08.000 Today's a great day for America because we're going to be fighting for America's first candidates to actually hear their voice in a much more strong way for the election cycles and years moving forward.

00:19:19.000 And so I'm excited to be partnered with you and going out and promoting the best people for the highest offices that we have in the land.

00:19:27.000 And it's a big deal.

00:19:28.000 It's a really big deal.

00:19:30.000 It's a big deal.

00:19:31.000 And so I know a lot of you guys are tired of giving money to the Republican establishment and all that.

00:19:35.000 We have our endorsements listed at tppac.com.

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00:19:43.000 You can see who we endorse in all the major races.

00:19:45.000 So Tyler, tell the story of JD Vance, though.

00:19:48.000 I mean, I was the one that was really aggressively pushing for this.

00:19:51.000 This.

00:19:51.000 You totally agreed from the beginning.

00:19:53.000 You said he's 100% with us.

00:19:55.000 We did it. 0.98

00:19:56.000 You and I got more messages from these numbskulls ever, text messages and phone calls.

00:20:00.000 You're on the RNC. 0.99

00:20:01.000 You're the committeeman for Arizona.

00:20:03.000 You had all these people kind of barking in your ear, being like, What is Charlie lost his mind?

00:20:07.000 And now he's the candidate.

00:20:08.000 Tell the story of the power of what Turning Point PAC can do via the story of JD Vance.

00:20:13.000 Well, he's the next senator for the state of Ohio.

00:20:16.000 And it's pretty exciting.

00:20:18.000 You know, it was a little more than a year ago.

00:20:21.000 We were down at our office, and JD had come down to Arizona and visited.

00:20:26.000 And we got to spend some time with him and sit with him.

00:20:30.000 And after you spent about five minutes with JD Vance, you know that this guy is exactly what we need to send to Washington.

00:20:37.000 And so I will tell you this: this is what helped us at Turning Point PAC, you know, launch this and Turning Point Action is launched the PAC here because we realized that an individual like JD that has the background, the understanding of what's happening in America, and the friends and financial supporting, the interest to run, the time commitment, you can't say no to somebody like that.

00:21:06.000 So there were some good candidates in the race.

00:21:08.000 But as you mentioned, people thought we were kind of crazy to stick our neck out.

00:21:11.000 Over a year ago, we stuck our neck out for JD and we said, JD's the guy, right?

00:21:15.000 And this is what you need in an organization like a PAC that actually knows what they're talking about is to actually go out and say, these are the people that need to go forward to Washington.

00:21:26.000 We did that.

00:21:27.000 We did that early.

00:21:28.000 Charlie, you were great with JD.

00:21:30.000 You've been helping JD.

00:21:32.000 I know he's got some other friends too and other networks that are super friendly with him and have been really great in helping promote him, but doing it the right way.

00:21:41.000 And he got out there, busted his butt, knocked doors, which is what we want, talked to the general public.

00:21:47.000 And, you know, he won the election and won Trump's endorsement, which is really critical, obviously, right now in politics. 0.92

00:21:53.000 So that's, we're proud.

00:21:55.000 We're proud of the work that we did to put the inputs in last year and proud that we were right and that we're seeing some change starting to happen across America.

00:22:05.000 And it's going to start right in Ohio.

00:22:08.000 So let's talk about some of the endorsements.

00:22:10.000 Turning Point PAC is getting behind, or some of the people, the candidates that we're going to support, some of the races I think that are really important.

00:22:16.000 Georgia, we have the wonderful Herschel Walker.

00:22:20.000 We have, of course, Bo Hines in North Carolina.

00:22:22.000 We have Caroline Levitt in New Hampshire. 0.96

00:22:26.000 Younger type candidates.

00:22:27.000 This is kind of the rise of the new right, if you will, the wonderful Ron Johnson from Wisconsin, who is amazing on the vaccine and on COVID and all these different types of issues.

00:22:37.000 Talk about the type of candidate that Turning Point PAC will be deploying resources for and talk about what kind of how necessary is this, Tyler?

00:22:44.000 You sit on the RNC board, right?

00:22:46.000 You're one of the more conservative members.

00:22:48.000 In fact, you actually hosted a screening of 2000 Mules with Dinesh, and a lot of people didn't like that.

00:22:55.000 How necessary is this in kind of the political landscape right now?

00:23:00.000 I mean, there seems to be a lot of establishment type PACs.

00:23:03.000 PACs.

00:23:04.000 How rare is it to actually have a conservative America first one?

00:23:08.000 Well, I don't know if there really is a true conservative America first PAC that's not attached to Donald Trump himself.

00:23:14.000 So, you know, I think what's the exciting part about what we're doing is: look, I mean, there's not very many organizations that are out there recruiting candidates, recruiting individuals into the conservative movement.

00:23:25.000 And, you know, Charlie, you know, we've been the ones out there doing it.

00:23:29.000 We kind of know the space.

00:23:31.000 We know the people.

00:23:31.000 We know the players.

00:23:33.000 And so it's really important.

00:23:35.000 I almost feel like it's incumbent on us, you know, as we're seeing these people come up, is to be able to call BS on those who are trying to come up and take advantage of the general public and run for office, even though they may not be prepared and they may not be America first.

00:23:53.000 And it's important for us also to help move along activists, which I believe that we need to have a much more activist-oriented Congress.

00:24:01.000 We need to have a much more activist-oriented legislature in your state. 0.96

00:24:05.000 We need to have a much more activist-oriented school board in your community.

00:24:09.000 And so, our job is: let's take people, make them smarter, make them loyal to the American people rather than leadership in Congress, rather than lobbyists, and send them up the ladder here until they get into higher office.

00:24:25.000 And so, nobody's doing that in the same way that we are in the way that we are identifying these people really at the birth of their activism.

00:24:34.000 And we know who they are at an early age because we're youth-oriented.

00:24:37.000 We're a youth-oriented organization.

00:24:39.000 So, we've known these people since they're 17, 18 years old, right?

00:24:42.000 So, it's really important for us to do that work for the American people, for the conservative movement.

00:24:51.000 Talk about some of the races that you're most excited about.

00:24:53.000 Talk about, I know Ana Paulina is running in the Sarasota-Pinellas County area. 1.00

00:24:59.000 We have Bo Hines.

00:25:00.000 What are some of the races where you have your eye and you say, This is a chance to really get some rock stars elected?

00:25:04.000 Anthony Sabatini is another one.

00:25:06.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:25:06.000 Tell us about that.

00:25:07.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:25:08.000 There's so many cool places that we're focused on right now.

00:25:11.000 Florida, obviously, is so important for the future of this country.

00:25:15.000 Because Ron DeSantis has completely turned Florida over on his head.

00:25:15.000 Why?

00:25:19.000 Had it not been for Ron DeSantis, like it had not been for Trump in 2016, I think we would have lost Florida maybe forever.

00:25:26.000 And Texas needs this, and Arizona needs this, and Georgia needs this.

00:25:31.000 And Tennessee, by the way, needs this because they're heading in the direction of Georgia.

00:25:35.000 And so I'm really excited because we have some really great candidates that we supported.

00:25:40.000 You mentioned a few from Florida.

00:25:42.000 Byron Donalds, who's currently in Congress, is incredible.

00:25:45.000 She's been with us for a long time.

00:25:47.000 Anna Paulina, we knew we talked Ana Paulina out of going to medical school.

00:25:53.000 So this is our relationship with Anna.

00:25:56.000 She came over, worked for Turning Point USA, was actually our Hispanic engagement director for a couple of years, and then moved on and decided to run for Congress. 0.84

00:26:05.000 And she came, she won the nomination last time, went up against Charlie Crist in a like a plus 10 Democrat district.

00:26:13.000 And now redistricting is happening.

00:26:15.000 And thanks to Ron DeSantis, she's going to be running in what looks to be a plus seven, plus eight Republican district.

00:26:22.000 So she's, as long as things go correctly here, she's going to be the next Congresswoman from Pinellas County there.

00:26:29.000 And we're really excited about that.

00:26:30.000 You brought up Anthony Sabatini.

00:26:33.000 Anthony Sabatini is one of our rock stars that we've endorsed as well on the action and PAC side.

00:26:39.000 He is probably the most, I wouldn't say probably he would be offended by that.

00:26:43.000 He is the most conservative member of the legislature in Florida.

00:26:47.000 Young guy is going to be awesome.

00:26:49.000 So, I mean, look, we're identifying these young, incredible conservatives who are going to go into Congress and they're not going to get bought off by lobbyists and leadership.

00:26:58.000 And they're going to listen to the grassroots activists.

00:27:00.000 They're going to work hard.

00:27:02.000 And, you know, that's what we're going to find more of.

00:27:05.000 And they're going to be leadership for the movement forward here.

00:27:08.000 So we're really excited for that.

00:27:10.000 Yeah, I mean, look, if you have Ana Paulina, Anthony Sabatini, Madison's in a tough race. 0.80

00:27:15.000 We're going to talk about that one.

00:27:16.000 You and I are going to talk about that later, but that's a separate.

00:27:19.000 I think we're going to have Madison on the program in two weeks.

00:27:22.000 We're going to ask him about everything, right?

00:27:24.000 Exclusive AMA.

00:27:25.000 And I love Madison.

00:27:26.000 And he's going to kind of just.

00:27:27.000 talk to us plainly about what's happened and there is a coordinated attack against Madison Cawthorne.

00:27:31.000 I can tell you right now.

00:27:32.000 Bo Hines, who's great.

00:27:33.000 Caroline Levitt, who's great.

00:27:35.000 I mean, you talk about it.

00:27:36.000 I mean, imagine the kind of disruption that this will cause.

00:27:39.000 I mean, this will make the squad look like nothing, right?

00:27:43.000 And I mean, but also, Tyler, we're also not going to just involve in primaries.

00:27:46.000 We're also going to try to oppose Democrats, right?

00:27:49.000 So talk about Arizona.

00:27:50.000 Is Mark Kelly, can we beat him?

00:27:52.000 What will it take to beat Mark Kelly coming in November?

00:27:54.000 Well, here's like a cool example that you're bringing up in Arizona where I'm from.

00:27:58.000 And we're, you know, we're there.

00:28:00.000 And, you know, Charlie, half of Charlie's life now is Arizona.

00:28:04.000 He's a, he's a.

00:28:05.000 I live in Arizona now.

00:28:07.000 He's an Arizona resident.

00:28:10.000 We've got, I think, three candidates that can beat Mark Kelly right now in Arizona.

00:28:16.000 We've got a couple that I think are the most conservative.

00:28:20.000 And that's going to play out.

00:28:21.000 And Turning Point Action is going to play a role, I think, in helping isolate the field, if you will.

00:28:27.000 And then Turning Point PAC, you know, will potentially play in this race as well.

00:28:32.000 But you mentioned it.

00:28:33.000 Mark Kelly is a well-funded bot of a Democrat who they just wanted to plug him in to take advantage of a weak Republican class, which is what basically happened in Arizona.

00:28:47.000 I mean, the reality is this, is that John McCain died and his replacement was a failed election of a U.S. Senator in Martha McSally.

00:29:00.000 And that's how we ended up with Mark Kelly.

00:29:02.000 We shouldn't have Mark Kelly today.

00:29:04.000 If the Republican Party knew what they were doing, we wouldn't have that.

00:29:06.000 And so I'm really excited because I think we have a handful of candidates.

00:29:09.000 We have at least one or two candidates I think that can beat Mark Kelly, have the support of Mark Kelly, the support to beat Mark Kelly and be a long-term great example of what the future of the Republican Party should look like.

00:29:22.000 And, you know, that starts with punching Mark Kelly back in the mouth, so to speak, here, because he is the most anti-gun, anti-freedom legislator that we have in the U.S. Senate.

00:29:36.000 That's exactly right.

00:29:37.000 And we're going to, so we don't have any immediate plans to get involved in Arizona, the Senate race, but we definitely have plans to oppose Mark Kelly out of the gate.

00:29:46.000 We got to try to get his favorables down, right?

00:29:49.000 And that's part of what the PAC needs to do is also oppose these Democrats and expose their record, right?

00:29:55.000 Very, very early on.

00:29:56.000 The website is tppac.com.

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00:31:31.000 Tyler, tell us about redistricting.

00:31:33.000 You were one of the few voices warning us about the war on the maps.

00:31:36.000 Two developments have happened since we last talked.

00:31:39.000 They threw out the maps in New York, saying they were too partisan, and Ron DeSantis decided to sign in pretty awesome maps in Florida.

00:31:45.000 Give us the update.

00:31:47.000 Yeah, I mean, so for everybody that's been kind of semi-paying attention, we won't get into too much of the weeds here or too much backtracking, but redistricting happens every 10 years.

00:31:58.000 It's a complete nightmare in every state.

00:32:00.000 It has to happen very quickly.

00:32:01.000 It puts it delays us in basically what are our first elections for the decade because we don't find out lines until very late.

00:32:09.000 And basically, how it works in most states is that it's up to the legislature to draw new lines, and the governor has to pass it, you know, sign off on it like it's a bill, right?

00:32:19.000 And so that's how they, that's how they do it.

00:32:21.000 Now, some states like Arizona and California and some other states, they have what they've instituted is called an independent redistricting commission.

00:32:30.000 And they've done this intentionally.

00:32:32.000 The Democrats have done this intentionally because they found it's a better way to control the process and then work on maps that benefit Democrats, obviously, right?

00:32:42.000 And so, you know, I'm not a big fan of gerrymandering.

00:32:45.000 You're not a big fan of gerrymandering, no matter who it is.

00:32:48.000 But one thing that is for certain is what we've seen is that the Democrats have been much more focused, much more encouraged by their processes that they've taken with these independent redistricting commissions.

00:33:00.000 And they've gone into the states where they control like states like New York and New Jersey and Washington and Oregon and California.

00:33:10.000 And they've completely dominated Republicans in the redistricting process.

00:33:14.000 And so what happens along the way is that it's totally disenfranchised Republicans in those states.

00:33:19.000 And so it's making them more blue through redistricting.

00:33:22.000 That's why we've ended up in the place that we are today, where it's not like the old days where like you would see states go back and forth.

00:33:28.000 There'd be a Democrat and Republican and Democrat. 0.93

00:33:30.000 Part of the reason why they're not any longer is because of this redistricting process that they've instituted that's made these states impossible for Republicans to regain any kind of control in Congress, any kind of control in their community.

00:33:42.000 And so, you know, very few Republicans, unfortunately, in most states, even where we have monumental control, like Texas and other places, they just didn't go to the wall and trying to claim back territory.

00:33:57.000 And so the only person that I can really speak to who's done this is Ron DeSantis in Florida, who the moderate people in the legislature tried to send him a pretty moderate map.

00:34:08.000 And he was like, absolutely not send it back.

00:34:11.000 I don't want to see it until it comes back more conservative.

00:34:14.000 And he got his way.

00:34:15.000 And it looks like that we're going to have extremely conservative maps, which is why we're going to have more conservative legislators in Congress meeting congressmen, right?

00:34:24.000 So we're really, really grateful to Ron DeSantis for that.

00:34:27.000 But everybody needs to follow Ron DeSantis' leadership.

00:34:30.000 And the big question that I have is: you know, where is the Republican Governors Association and all this?

00:34:36.000 Where are our leaders coming out and speaking up and holding accountable our Republican governors we have in Democrat states?

00:34:43.000 You know, we have some Northeastern Republican governors in blue states who could have really screwed the Democrat Party by playing hardball and they just have chosen not to.

00:34:55.000 So for that reason, the maps today that are being developed look pretty similar, if not maybe potentially worse than they were 10 years ago.

00:35:03.000 And we viewed 10 years ago as a total loss from a redistricting standpoint.

00:35:09.000 Yeah.

00:35:09.000 And so Ron DeSantis on the line in Florida was generally very good.

00:35:12.000 And the fact that the New York maps have been put in jeopardy is also very good.

00:35:17.000 Okay.

00:35:17.000 Tyler, thanks so much.

00:35:18.000 tppac.com.

00:35:19.000 That is tppac.com.

00:35:22.000 It's going to be.

00:35:23.000 News on the wire very soon.

00:35:25.000 So check it out.

00:35:26.000 And if you guys have any resources to give to it, it'll go to America First Candidates and helping us move the dial.

00:35:31.000 So tppac.com.

00:35:33.000 Thank you, Tyler.

00:35:34.000 Directly to them, Charlie.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 05, 2022

A Dire Midterm Polling Update for Democrats with Richard Baris

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