The Charlie Kirk Show - A House Divided and Pelosi's Shampeachment 2.0

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00:02:04.000 Hello, everybody.

00:02:04.000 Charlie Kirk here.

00:02:06.000 What a great day it is to be alive.

00:02:08.000 And we're going to make it a great day because we are going to force ourselves into joy and positivity and optimism.

00:02:13.000 I'm here with Isabel Brown, who has been a champion the last week, as my voice has been, let's just say, worn down.

00:02:22.000 We did 12 hours of broadcasting last Wednesday, and I think we did six hours after that.

00:02:28.000 A lot happening in the news cycle right now.

00:02:31.000 The House of Representatives is doing kind of a first vote, a Robert Rules of Order vote, it seems, to try and introduce articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump.

00:02:44.000 The House resolution, I think this is technically H.R. 1.

00:02:48.000 This is the first thing they're doing as the new Congress, a resolution impeaching Donald John Trump, President of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors.

00:02:59.000 It goes on to say that the articles of impeachment exhibited by the House of Representatives in the name itself and of the people of the United States against Donald J. Trump basically are saying that in maintenance and support of its impeachment against him for high crimes and misdemeanors.

00:03:13.000 It goes on to say that the high crimes and misdemeanors are allegedly inciting the group last Wednesday that went into the Capitol building, which resulted in deaths from cops, deaths from people that went in, just a tragic, awful sequence of events.

00:03:32.000 It goes on to say that it quotes him, but it does not quote where he said that you should go to the Capitol peacefully and patriotically.

00:03:41.000 It does say that, quote, if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.

00:03:46.000 They are making the argument that President Donald Trump incited this form of violence.

00:03:51.000 Now, you might say, well, why are they impeaching him?

00:03:54.000 Can't they just wait literally a week?

00:03:57.000 Because in one week, there will be a transfer of power in our country.

00:04:02.000 As hard as it is to say, that is something that looks to be all but certain.

00:04:07.000 Why are they doing this?

00:04:08.000 Well, they're doing this for a couple reasons.

00:04:10.000 The Democrats are trying to turn anyone that was even remotely close to President Trump, his movements, and his ideas.

00:04:19.000 They're trying to completely banish them from all sort of political thought.

00:04:23.000 Congresswoman Liz Cheney from the state of Wyoming has come out and said that she supports impeachment.

00:04:30.000 There are five or six other Republicans as well.

00:04:33.000 Republicans are running for cover and they're running for cover quickly, mostly because a lot of them see a political opportunity right now.

00:04:41.000 So, Isabel, can you help build that out how some Republicans are kind of running for the Hills?

00:04:45.000 Ultimately, I think we're seeing a really clear schism in the Republican Party right now between individuals who are answering to their constituents who maybe are upset about the results of this last election, are rightfully concerned with some pretty credible allegations of voter fraud that were never followed up on in a court of law or by our Congress of the United States.

00:05:05.000 And then individuals who are trying to appease the establishment Republican Party, trying to keep good favor in the United States Congress.

00:05:11.000 Obviously, we know that things accomplished in Congress are usually done through party favors and from the top down when it comes to leadership within the individual parties.

00:05:20.000 So right now, you're seeing a lot of those Republican Party loyalists, maybe who've been in office for several years or several decades, start to align more with this idea of impeaching Trump, whereas individuals more responsible to their constituents are trying to hold the line a little bit there.

00:05:34.000 Andy Biggs has called for the removal of Liz Cheney as head of the Republican conference chair, as has Jim Jordan.

00:05:43.000 And we're starting to see there is kind of this schism happening.

00:05:47.000 Let's go to cut 71.

00:05:49.000 I've called for her resignation. 0.98

00:05:51.000 I don't think she should be the chair of the Republican Conference anymore.

00:05:55.000 The reality is she's not representing the conference.

00:06:00.000 And so what has really bothered me throughout this entire event post what happened tragically last Wednesday is you're starting to see who really supported President Donald Trump and his ideas and who just said they supported his agenda and his ideas.

00:06:18.000 You're starting to see at the first opportunity of trying to banish him and trying to eliminate his existence completely.

00:06:28.000 You're starting to see people like Liz Cheney and others really lean into that.

00:06:33.000 Let's go to Cut 70.

00:06:35.000 Representative McGovern says, I can't think of anything that would unify this country more than a bipartisan vote for impeachment.

00:06:40.000 Cut 70.

00:06:41.000 Do you want to talk about unity?

00:06:43.000 I can't think of anything that would unify this country more if there was a big bipartisan vote in favor of impeachment.

00:06:51.000 Every second that this president remains in office is a danger to this country and to the world.

00:06:57.000 So again, they can't wait seven days, but it's really not about seven days.

00:07:01.000 It is about trying to put not just a flag down, but also draw a line where they say, if you support him, you will no longer...

00:07:13.000 They are even saying you shouldn't be allowed to fly on airplanes, just so we're clear.

00:07:17.000 But you will not be allowed indecent or polite conversation at all whatsoever.

00:07:21.000 And we can all agree what happened last Wednesday was horrific and tragic.

00:07:25.000 In fact, I was watching some of the video last night, and it's really hard to watch some of the new videos that have been coming out.

00:07:32.000 And we're not going to show them here on this live stream.

00:07:34.000 But when you watch a police officer of the United States, the police officer, Washington, D.C., and we have those shirts that say police officers matter, and you see some people come up and just beat him from the back and he just collapses.

00:07:48.000 I mean, that's tragic.

00:07:50.000 And it's tragic if the people that did it there are on the left or on the right or on the radical right.

00:07:56.000 It's terrible.

00:07:57.000 And so there's a lot of understandable rage and there's a lot of understandable, let's say, discontent.

00:08:04.000 However, there are political opportunists now on the Democrats that are now using this event.

00:08:11.000 And I would like to say to try to accomplish pre-existing political goals.

00:08:15.000 On the live stream here, you can see on the bottom right hand of your screen, this is to agree to the resolution to impeach the president of the United States.

00:08:26.000 Every single Democrat voted yes.

00:08:31.000 It doesn't look like everyone has voted, though.

00:08:33.000 Does that add up to 435?

00:08:35.000 Oh, I guess there's some members missing.

00:08:37.000 It looks like the Republicans voted almost uniformly.

00:08:43.000 So this must just be to be agreeing to the resolution.

00:08:46.000 We'll see how Liz Cheney and these other folks vote.

00:08:48.000 It does look like it is like there's eight people that didn't vote and five people that did not vote for the Democrats.

00:08:53.000 They didn't show up for the vote.

00:08:54.000 So it looks like it's increasingly likely that this impeachment vote will come through today.

00:08:59.000 We're going to be monitoring that very closely.

00:09:01.000 And look, this is a full-throated attempt to try to recreate history, to try to destroy a president at all costs and try to destroy his movement alongside of it.

00:09:13.000 And Tucker Carlson brought up a great point last evening on Fox News.

00:09:18.000 If you really want to get rid of Donald Trump, just ignore him.

00:09:20.000 Stop talking about him.

00:09:21.000 He doesn't have a Twitter feed.

00:09:23.000 He doesn't have an Instagram profile.

00:09:25.000 He doesn't have a Facebook profile.

00:09:26.000 Not that we support all this.

00:09:28.000 We actually denounce that completely and categorically.

00:09:32.000 But instead, what they've done is the exact opposite.

00:09:37.000 Let's try to make him seem even bigger.

00:09:40.000 And this is the first time in the history of our country that a president is facing two impeachment resolutions within one calendar year, let alone at all, in any form of a presidency.

00:09:53.000 And all of this stems from what happened last week.

00:09:57.000 And we were here covering this live.

00:09:59.000 And it's also because former vice president, not former vice president, Vice President Pence was asked to invoke the 25th Amendment.

00:10:08.000 And he sent a letter that really, I think, summarized it nicely.

00:10:12.000 His letter is pretty good.

00:10:13.000 He said, invoking the 25th Amendment in such a manner would set a terrible precedent.

00:10:17.000 After the horrific events of this last week, our administration's energy is directed to ensuring an orderly transition.

00:10:23.000 The Bible says that, quote, for everything there is a season and for a time for every purpose under heaven, a time the heel time to build up.

00:10:30.000 That time is now.

00:10:31.000 In the midst of a global pandemic, economic hardship for millions of people and the tragic events of January the 6th, now is the time for us to come together.

00:10:38.000 Now is the time to heal.

00:10:39.000 This is not going to allow anyone to heal at all whatsoever.

00:10:44.000 Instead, this is going to try to poke the eye in the Trump supporters.

00:10:47.000 Basically, this is their revenge towards President Trump, towards everyone who supported him for not making Hillary Clinton president in 2016.

00:11:00.000 When Joe Biden becomes president next week, they're going to have a lot of ground to make up.

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00:11:13.000 They're not going to get rid of his amazing results internationally and geopolitically.

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00:11:19.000 And because of that, they're doing everything they can to try to rewrite history.

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00:13:04.000 Eric Swawell is trying to resurrect his career by saying that Donald Trump is America's Osama bin Laden.

00:13:15.000 So look, this is now the way the conversation is going.

00:13:20.000 When I was young, when Isabel and I were in high school, we were called prejudiced as conservatives.

00:13:27.000 A couple years later, they started to throw around racist.

00:13:31.000 Then they started to use National Socialist Worker.

00:13:34.000 You know what I mean by that.

00:13:36.000 I don't even like saying the term. 0.99

00:13:37.000 Like, you're the worst person ever. 0.94

00:13:40.000 Now they're using terrorist, and it's not going to stop. 0.69

00:13:45.000 Despite people that have denounced the violence, repudiated it, they are now going to group anyone that calls themselves a conservative that term.

00:13:55.000 Now, what's the significance of this?

00:13:57.000 This is not just cancel culture gone wild.

00:14:01.000 No, no, no, this is beyond that, okay?

00:14:03.000 Now that they control every single instrument of power in our country, that word, especially post-Oklahoma City bombing and post-9-11, is a word that carries a lot of significance in what the government can do to you, where they can all of a sudden make it that you don't get representation.

00:14:26.000 You do not get First Amendment rights.

00:14:28.000 You don't get the rights to counsel.

00:14:32.000 Let's play tape here of Eric Swalwell comparing President Donald Trump to the leader of Al-Qaeda.

00:14:39.000 Well, Osama bin Laden did not enter U.S. soil on September 11, but it was widely acknowledged that he was responsible for inspiring the attack on our country. 0.98

00:14:51.000 And the president, with his words, using the words fight with the speakers that he assembled that day who called for trial by combat and said we have to take names and kick ass. 0.91

00:15:04.000 That is hate speech that inspired and radicalized people to storm the capital. 0.99

00:15:10.000 All right.

00:15:11.000 So instead of getting too worked up about this, let's just look at this logically.

00:15:16.000 First of all, Osama bin Laden did not inspire the attacks.

00:15:21.000 Osama bin Laden was the chief architect. 0.63

00:15:24.000 I can't believe I'm even talking about this right now, but I guess I have to go back into a history lesson. 0.85

00:15:28.000 Maybe Eric Swallow is too busy with Fang Fang during the investigation of all of this.

00:15:32.000 He's minorly distracted. 0.63

00:15:34.000 Osama bin Laden was the international criminal, the architect that was overseeing wire transfers, movements of people, weaponry, training, To even equate a duly elected president who just received 75 million votes from the American people to our generation's most evil figure. 0.87

00:16:01.000 I think that's probably a fair way, right? 0.87

00:16:02.000 You think about our generation, who is the person we were told is the most evil person who's living.

00:16:08.000 It was Osama bin Laden, right?

00:16:10.000 Without a doubt. 0.68

00:16:11.000 And to even just compare that parenthetically, let alone directly.

00:16:17.000 It's not just reckless.

00:16:19.000 It's not just wrong.

00:16:20.000 It's going to have real consequences, and it has to be stopped now.

00:16:24.000 People that are saying this need to be confronted.

00:16:28.000 Congressman Swalwell, as he's an impeachment manager, I hope some other member of Congress will cross-examine him and say, Do you really believe that President Trump is moral equivalency to Osama bin Laden?

00:16:48.000 Do we have Cut 76 ready?

00:16:51.000 Let's play Cut 76.

00:16:54.000 For years, we have been asked to turn a blind eye to the criminality, corruption, and blatant disregard to the rule of law by the tyrant president we have in the White House.

00:17:09.000 We as a nation can no longer look away.

00:17:14.000 All of Elon Omar's, let's say, scandals have suddenly disappeared, and they probably will disappear because they control every single arena of government.

00:17:26.000 But going back to what Congressman Swalwell said, the left is not joking around anymore.

00:17:31.000 So you see, this stuff used to be just bluster.

00:17:33.000 This stuff used to be kind of CNN fodder, clickbait.

00:17:36.000 Now this stuff has real consequences.

00:17:40.000 And now they are going to use terrorism statutes that were used in the Patriot Act to monitor, infiltrate, and detain people that wear hats like this, that say conservative.

00:17:51.000 And don't take my word for it.

00:17:53.000 Eric Swalwell is calling the 45th president of the United States a leader of al-Qaeda.

00:18:03.000 And we'll get into whether or not the president inspired or incited what happened last week.

00:18:12.000 I don't believe he did at all.

00:18:16.000 And we'll go through all of that.

00:18:17.000 However, for Eric Swalwell to make that comparison, it's not a mistake.

00:18:23.000 Because Eric Swalwell is not a very bright person.

00:18:26.000 What this means is that other higher-up people are using this language as well. 0.99

00:18:30.000 Eric Swalwell is a very dumb person, but he's just repeating what other people are saying. 0.98

00:18:36.000 And that is scary. 1.00

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00:19:26.000 A lot happening right now as Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi goes on her speech about why we need to impeach the president of the United States. 0.96

00:19:37.000 She seems to be using up every single minute of this to try and abolish every single conservative imaginable. 1.00

00:19:46.000 Let's go to some tape here.

00:19:49.000 Are we loading 79?

00:19:50.000 Is that here yet?

00:19:51.000 Are we still loading that?

00:19:54.000 We're getting that one right there, where Steny Hoyer said MAGA stands for Make America Grieve Again, comparing January 6th to 9-11 in Pearl Harbor and Fort Sumter.

00:20:04.000 Let's play Cut 79.

00:20:07.000 MAGA Civil War.

00:20:12.000 They had the hats on of the Army of MAGA.

00:20:16.000 Which I refer to as Make America Grieve Again.

00:20:24.000 We grieved at Fort Sumter.

00:20:29.000 We grieved on December 7th, 1941, and we grieved on 9-11.

00:20:37.000 And yes, we grieved on December, excuse me, January 6th.

00:20:43.000 It's very dangerous, as we said on the night of this happening when Chuck Schumer started to compare what happened to Pearl Harbor.

00:20:51.000 It's an insult to Pearl Harbor.

00:20:54.000 And what they're trying to do, though, is create a narrative that the JV squad of wannabe, KGB, whatever, the guys that were parachuting down the side, like caravening down the side of the Capitol with zip ties, that somehow they are comparable to the Imperial fighting force of Japan.

00:21:18.000 Now, why are they doing this?

00:21:19.000 Well, first of all, some of them, I want to say, I don't know all of their intentions.

00:21:24.000 I'm sure some of them are, I'm talking about members of Congress, even some of the moderate Democrats are moderately disturbed by what happened, or they're disturbed.

00:21:33.000 Fine.

00:21:35.000 That's a take.

00:21:38.000 But other Democrats are seeing this as a political opportunity because it is the intersection of something that makes them feel good to talk about.

00:21:48.000 It achieves a political aim and objective.

00:21:52.000 And it gives them an excuse to expand the security state that they have been wanting to for quite some time.

00:22:00.000 Now, the Democrats are not just focused on President Trump.

00:22:04.000 They're also focused on other members of Congress that they believe helped with reconnaissance before the riot.

00:22:13.000 Let's go to Cut 77.

00:22:16.000 I also intend to see that those members of Congress who abetted him, those members of Congress who had groups coming through the Capitol that I saw on January 5th, a reconnaissance for the next day.

00:22:28.000 I'm going to see that they're held accountable and if necessary, ensure that they don't serve in Congress.

00:22:35.000 This is a massive accusation that the Congresswoman from New Jersey is saying.

00:22:40.000 Want me to tell you what probably happened?

00:22:42.000 You probably had freshman members of Congress that were giving tours of the Capitol to friends and family.

00:22:50.000 To say that members of the GOP conference were giving reconnaissance tours is basically she's calling other Republican Congress people traitors to the United States.

00:23:03.000 Now, that actually is what they're doing.

00:23:06.000 There's no hyperbole there.

00:23:07.000 There's no exaggeration.

00:23:10.000 The Washington Post has now said this.

00:23:15.000 Will the GOP turn into Hezbollah?

00:23:20.000 This is out yesterday from Daniel Dresner.

00:23:25.000 He is a professor at the international, of course, he's a professor, international politics of the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University.

00:23:36.000 He, by the way, he knows better than this.

00:23:40.000 He is doing an intentional disservice provocatively to try and compare one of America, you could argue it's a bigger political party in most states than the Democrats.

00:23:54.000 He doesn't say, will fringe people turn into Hezbollah?

00:23:57.000 He says the GOP, the infrastructure, the committee itself turn into Hezbollah.

00:24:05.000 He said here, are these armed protesters merely a radical fringe of the GOP?

00:24:12.000 Only if you think the president of the United States is also on that fringe.

00:24:17.000 And it's not just Trump.

00:24:19.000 The intercepts, Ryan Grimm and Ada Chavez reported that the head of the House Freedom Caucus helped organize last week's event.

00:24:26.000 Whoa, hold on a second.

00:24:27.000 No, If you're talking about the peaceful event at the ellipse and the one that was permitted by the United States National Park Service, maybe.

00:24:39.000 Says here, Madison Cawthorne spoke at the rally saying, quote, call your congressman.

00:24:43.000 You can lightly threaten them and say, if you don't start supporting election integrity, I'm coming after you.

00:24:50.000 Now, mind you, when the left uses charged speech, it immediately gets categorized as metaphorical and not literal.

00:24:59.000 When the right uses terms like fight, you know, like the Biden fight fund or fight for, you know, fight for Roe versus Wade, which are things that we talked about all yesterday, that's perfectly fine.

00:25:13.000 But when we say, let's go fight for our president, people say, you must mean physical combat.

00:25:20.000 Absolutely not.

00:25:21.000 That is nonsense.

00:25:24.000 And they know it is too, because I guarantee you that in the next couple of weeks, one of these guys is going to be on a cable television show, one of these Democrats, and they're going to all of a sudden say something that they've been saying for years, like, we need to go fight for affordable health care.

00:25:39.000 How many clips of Bernie Sanders could I put up right now of Bernie Sanders saying, we must fight for $15 minimum wage?

00:25:46.000 I just hear it in my head.

00:25:47.000 I've heard him say it.

00:25:48.000 And never once did I levy the accusation.

00:25:51.000 Now, some of you will say, well, but there wasn't a violent event that happened out of it.

00:25:58.000 That's exactly the point.

00:26:00.000 The point is that this language is used all the time without violent events occurring.

00:26:04.000 Therefore, the language is not particularly tied to people inciting violence whatsoever.

00:26:11.000 Now, if all of a sudden there was a pattern of language that was used with specifics of how to enact the violence or what to do, then that's a completely different conversation.

00:26:24.000 But all of a sudden trying to read into this, these statements that are used so often.

00:26:31.000 So for example, one person that they are going after very hard right now is Lauren Bobert from Colorado.

00:26:39.000 They are really going after her.

00:26:40.000 She's actually trending on Twitter as we speak with people calling for her expulsion from the United States Congress.

00:26:48.000 Yeah.

00:26:48.000 And so Congresswoman Lauren Bobert, what part of Colorado is she from?

00:26:53.000 She is from the western half of the state. 0.94

00:26:55.000 So her district is actually massive.

00:26:57.000 Population-wise, most of the population in Colorado, that's where I'm from, is centered around Denver and then along the I-25 corridor right in the middle of the state.

00:27:06.000 So she covers the vast majority of land mass of the state on the west side.

00:27:10.000 So she has tweeted this, calling 75 million Americans domestic terrorists is not unity.

00:27:16.000 But the left really doesn't care about that right now.

00:27:18.000 They don't care about their political strategy is this, is to try to intimidate and force basically people into following their political viewpoint.

00:27:29.000 They are going to try and marginalize anyone who is a conservative or a Trump supporter.

00:27:34.000 You know, no nuance, no detail at all whatsoever.

00:27:38.000 While, of course, calling it unity at exactly the same time, which is the left's playbook that we've seen.

00:27:43.000 It's projection gaslighting.

00:27:44.000 It is nothing that is surprising at all whatsoever.

00:27:47.000 And so this fight over the narrative is actually really important.

00:27:52.000 It's extraordinarily important because if we do not push back on this narrative, all of a sudden it is only going to empower the security state.

00:28:03.000 It's only going to empower the prosecutorial state to be able to push in directions that they otherwise would not be able to push.

00:28:11.000 For example, because the media, this is how powerful the media is.

00:28:15.000 This is what people have to realize that without shows like this, without radio programs pushing back, they would just dominate on this.

00:28:23.000 And again, I'm going to get into some of Governor Mike Huckabee's comments because I actually agree with part of them.

00:28:29.000 We'll get into that in a second.

00:28:30.000 But just to, if you have a one-party media state, then what they say ends up being the truth.

00:28:38.000 And so very few people know that BLM Incorporated almost penetrated the outer ring of the White House and injured 67 Secret Service members.

00:28:47.000 I was outraged by that.

00:28:49.000 I'm also just sickened when I see a police officer get bludgeoned to death outside of the Capitol.

00:28:56.000 And so the lack of detail or context when we're talking about these matters is super important.

00:29:09.000 It's really scary and chilling, but it's important in the sense that we get the actual message out because so many people are just taking the Democrat narrative as completely and totally true.

00:29:23.000 And now, look, I went through the New York Times article yesterday.

00:29:26.000 I thought they did some actually good reporting on part of it.

00:29:29.000 However, the way they described a lot of things I thought to be misleading.

00:29:32.000 But the biggest takeaway from the article is that there were people congregating on the eastern side of the Capitol already before that.

00:29:40.000 And let me be clear, if your intention when you go to any one of these things is to go seek violence or to go seek agitation.

00:29:48.000 I mean, I saw some pictures of people that were wearing the red Make America Great Again hat, and they came out and they were spraying Mace at the police.

00:29:58.000 Now, we don't know who that person is.

00:30:00.000 You know, the easy description is that's a Trump supporter because they're wearing the hat.

00:30:03.000 We don't know that. 0.92

00:30:04.000 But if you're spraying Mace at a police officer, like you're a thug.

00:30:08.000 You're not part of the Make America Great Again movement.

00:30:11.000 Now, instead of Democrats giving an opportunity for Republicans to say, that's not part of our movement, instead they're saying, you're all part of it.

00:30:19.000 Now, what do you think is going to happen?

00:30:24.000 Maybe the Democrats are doing this by design, or maybe they're recklessly running into something that they don't know about.

00:30:31.000 I don't know.

00:30:34.000 But 75 million people, let's just pretend it's 50 million people.

00:30:38.000 Okay, let's pretend there's 25 million people that reluctantly voted for Trump.

00:30:41.000 Let's just say it's 50 million people.

00:30:42.000 Okay.

00:30:42.000 That's a lot of people.

00:30:44.000 A lot.

00:30:44.000 Okay?

00:30:46.000 Let's say it's 50 million people.

00:30:50.000 They can't access social media like they used to.

00:30:54.000 They can't even see what the president is saying or what he's thinking.

00:30:58.000 They're migrating to new platforms that just suddenly disappear because of server space issues.

00:31:04.000 They're seeing friends and family members that they know that went to the events in Washington, D.C., like one of my dear friends, who's like the sweetest guy in the world, Pastor Rick Brown, who was here on this podcast.

00:31:19.000 He went to the ellipse.

00:31:20.000 He went to the Washington Monument, walked about a mile away from the Capitol, saw some of it, walked to Union Station.

00:31:26.000 Is that guy all of a sudden Timothy McVeigh?

00:31:29.000 Of course not.

00:31:31.000 But this guilt by association tactic is a unique Marxist tactic because they don't look at people as individuals.

00:31:39.000 They look at people as part of groups.

00:31:42.000 Therefore, if you were there in Washington, D.C. and you attended, you're guilty, you're part of the problem. 0.99

00:31:49.000 All of you must be eliminated.

00:31:52.000 Despite the fact that the events that happened before what happened tragically at the Capitol is disconnected, large in part, because a lot of people didn't even go to that.

00:32:05.000 Zoe Lofgren is speaking from the House floor, so we will definitely not cut to her.

00:32:11.000 And Tom LaClintock from California just gave a great speech.

00:32:14.000 I want to give him credit for that.

00:32:17.000 It was really well done.

00:32:19.000 So the sequence of events that is taking place seems to be, could be argued as an intentional provoking exercise to 50 million people.

00:32:36.000 Now, if I was trying to provoke more outrage, if I was trying to provoke more unrest, I would eliminate the president of the United States from Twitter.

00:32:54.000 I would collude with three $1 trillion companies to try to basically eliminate parlor and its distribution, its distribution and its hosting.

00:33:05.000 I would call the president of the United States, who is still loved by tens of millions of people, Osama bin Laden.

00:33:16.000 I mean, why not reach for the star swale? 0.99

00:33:18.000 Call him Stalin.

00:33:20.000 Just get it over with.

00:33:25.000 If I was trying to keep the unrest going, I would talk like this and I would do this.

00:33:31.000 Now, maybe that's not their intention.

00:33:33.000 Intentions are hard to pinpoint.

00:33:37.000 However, there is no way that you can say that you're trying to achieve unity and healing when acting in this manner.

00:33:46.000 Speech is always the answer.

00:33:49.000 And Democrats have decided to not even allow us to speak or have our viewpoint be heard.

00:33:56.000 And all of the media articles and the clippings that you see about what those of us are saying are completely and wildly inaccurate.

00:34:04.000 I had a friend of mine text me the other day.

00:34:06.000 They said, Charlie, why haven't you condemned the riots?

00:34:09.000 I said, what are you talking about?

00:34:10.000 I said, have you not watched one of our live streams?

00:34:12.000 He sent me one of these news clippings because they took one, two sentences that I said of a nuanced statement where I said, not everyone at the ellipse went to the Capitol, and those people are not insurrectionists.

00:34:28.000 They say some sort of crazy thing that I'm validating it.

00:34:28.000 What do they say?

00:34:33.000 And so unless you watch this program uninterrupted, just the perception of how the media is portraying us is as if we're justifying this.

00:34:46.000 And so what's the consequence of all this?

00:34:49.000 The consequence is you're going to see more discord.

00:34:53.000 You're going to see more unrest and less civility.

00:34:58.000 I hope that doesn't happen, by the way.

00:35:00.000 I hope things remain peaceful.

00:35:02.000 And I hope things remain human.

00:35:07.000 What the Democrats are doing, though, is all the different metaphorical ways you can fill in the phrase, kicking you when you're down, poking you, spitting on you once you fall, have fallen.

00:35:22.000 And The tens of millions of Trump supporters across the country, the biggest question that I get at freedomatcharlikirk.com is, what can we do anymore?

00:35:35.000 I can't speak.

00:35:37.000 I can't go outside.

00:35:40.000 My whole county's locked down.

00:35:41.000 What can I do?

00:35:43.000 And we're going to help unpack that.

00:35:46.000 But the Democrats know that they have removed almost all activist toolkits, tools from the toolkit for you to be an effective messenger.

00:35:55.000 They've obliterated hundreds of thousands of Twitter accounts from Twitter.

00:35:59.000 I started with 1.9 million followers on Twitter, 1.927,000 followers on Twitter last week.

00:36:07.000 We're now down to 1.7.

00:36:09.000 Magically, 200,000 people were just eliminated from Twitter.

00:36:15.000 Speech has always been the answer.

00:36:17.000 And even if you think it's grotesque speech, that speech needs to be protected.

00:36:23.000 There are a lot of people at the Capitol that, guess what?

00:36:26.000 Hate me.

00:36:28.000 There are people at the Capitol that have followed me around the country, followed me through airports.

00:36:35.000 And they're trying to loop me into these people.

00:36:37.000 They hate me.

00:36:38.000 If you don't believe me, just look at their message boards.

00:36:41.000 Look at what they talk about on social media. 0.72

00:36:46.000 And so to try and loop everyone into guilt by association is no different than a Soviet-style kulak program.

00:36:57.000 And it's incredibly important. 0.92

00:37:00.000 Mitch McConnell's office called Schumer's people today, told them McConnell would not consent to reconvening immediately under the 2004 emergency authorization.

00:37:11.000 So the Senate will not have a trial before January 19th.

00:37:17.000 I just want to tell you what is happening.

00:37:20.000 Look, we need to pause and recognize that Democrats are fast-tracking a narrative to lay groundwork to eliminate dissenting voices and install a one-party state.

00:37:33.000 There is wave legislation in the pipeline that will systemically change the fabric of our nation.

00:37:39.000 That was sent to me by a friend of mine, and I think that's exactly right. 0.96

00:37:42.000 So Lauren Boebert is under fire for what exactly?

00:37:46.000 Allegedly, everyone is saying in Congress from the Democrat side of the aisle that the freshman congresswoman from Colorado, Lauren Bobert, should be expelled from Congress simply because she dared to tweet, this is 1776, or today is 1776, last Wednesday before the debate happened in the United States House of Representatives.

00:38:07.000 I find this interesting because people must not understand the historical significance of 1776 if they mean by it.

00:38:13.000 This is some violent insurrection against the government.

00:38:17.000 That was simply the year the Declaration of Independence was written and ratified.

00:38:21.000 So I find that very interesting.

00:38:23.000 Well, and we celebrate, that is a federal holiday.

00:38:25.000 It is.

00:38:26.000 So we do commemorate and celebrate something that happened in that year.

00:38:30.000 And some people might hijack the meaning of 1776, but what do we mean by that when we say it?

00:38:37.000 Well, we mean it that that historical turning point, no pun intended, was when people decided to make the peaceful, hopefully the peaceful separation against the monarchy.

00:38:50.000 Now, what happened after was obviously not peaceful, mostly because Britain declared war on us, not the other way around.

00:38:57.000 If you read the Declaration of Independence, it is not a declaration of war.

00:39:01.000 It says very clearly that they wanted to dissolve ties, that King George was not the supreme or superior force over the citizens of the colonies.

00:39:15.000 Instead, God is mentioned four times in the Declaration of Independence, and it says very clearly that they want to be, that want to be basically live under the laws of nature and nature's God.

00:39:27.000 And so what you're going to start to see is this misrepresentation of history trying to say that anyone who uses 1776 in any form whatsoever must be talking about something violent.

00:39:40.000 That is not true at all whatsoever.

00:39:42.000 And if that was the case, then all of the Democrats commentators over the summer that were praising the mobs calling like Don Laman back cut six when he said our country was started because the Boston Tea Party rioting.

00:39:57.000 Let's go back to cut six.

00:39:59.000 So if they were to attack Lauren Boebert on it, why weren't they attacking Don Lemon for saying this?

00:40:05.000 And let's not forget, if anyone is judging this, I'm not judging this.

00:40:09.000 I'm just wondering what is going on because we were supposed to figure out this experiment a long time ago.

00:40:16.000 Our country was started because this is how the Boston Tea Party rioting.

00:40:26.000 So do not get it twisted and think that, oh, this is something that has never happened before.

00:40:32.000 And then this is so terrible.

00:40:33.000 And where are we?

00:40:34.000 And these savages and all of that.

00:40:36.000 This is how this country was started.

00:40:38.000 Now, mind you, that's wild footage was on his screen of people walking into an electronic store, looting, and in graffiti it says I for I, which is not legal.

00:40:48.000 Okay, that is not legal.

00:40:50.000 So, but Don Lamon says, oh, this is how our country was started.

00:40:54.000 So cut it out with the kind of misrepresentation of our country's founding.

00:40:58.000 I don't want to hear it anymore.

00:40:59.000 It's an intentional gaslighting tactic to try to achieve a 1619 agenda for our country.

00:41:05.000 Jeff Van Drew, who's a former Democrat, has decided to oppose the impeachment and basically saying this is disenfranchising half the country, which is exactly right.

00:41:16.000 And they're just not rushing through this.

00:41:19.000 They are going at a blitz speed.

00:41:23.000 And just so you know, this goes to show where how much outrage there is right now on the left.

00:41:31.000 And they're not thinking rationally and they're not thinking analytically.

00:41:34.000 Louis Gohmert right now is trending on Twitter because he said, quote, I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country.

00:41:41.000 Maybe there will be.

00:41:43.000 He was quoting Nancy Pelosi.

00:41:47.000 God bless Louis Gohmert.

00:41:48.000 He's the best.

00:41:49.000 I love that guy.

00:41:50.000 He's been on our program.

00:41:51.000 He came down to our turning point USA Student Action Summit.

00:41:54.000 So they're really angry that Louis Gohmert was quoting something that the Speaker of the House said.

00:41:59.000 He wasn't actually saying it himself.

00:42:01.000 But of course, for the radical Democrats, that is not good enough.

00:42:06.000 For them, for them, they want only the Democrats are able to support violence.

00:42:13.000 And so I want you guys to continue to email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:42:20.000 The question that I think a lot of you have here is, what is the point of all of this?

00:42:26.000 And the point is this.

00:42:27.000 One word, punishment.

00:42:30.000 That's the point.

00:42:31.000 Is that in their mind, they have had to sit through their own concocted version of Benito Mussolini over the last couple years.

00:42:41.000 Of course, that is not true, but that's actually how they view Donald Trump.

00:42:45.000 Now that they have total and complete control, basically, of the United States government, or soon to be in about seven days, their goal is now to not try to legislate.

00:43:01.000 They are trying to exile and punish anyone that was involved in this at all whatsoever.

00:43:08.000 And exile is a very interesting thing.

00:43:10.000 Exile and banishment.

00:43:13.000 Instead of trying to remove this 50 million people, they want that 50 million people to go down to 30 million because they're going to try to marginalize it.

00:43:24.000 There'll be a couple Republican congresspeople here and there.

00:43:27.000 There'll be controlled opposition.

00:43:29.000 And anyone that actually speaks the truth or pushes back will either be deplatformed, will be marginalized, or just continually under massive pressure from the United States government security state, which is exactly what is happening here in this country right now.

00:43:45.000 And so because the Democrats perfected how elections are done in this country through the mail-in balloting process, through signature verification, relaxing of standards, all these sorts of things, they control now.

00:44:01.000 Basically, they control the United States Senate.

00:44:03.000 We lost both the seats in Georgia.

00:44:04.000 They control the House of Representatives by a slim margin, and they're going to control the presidency.

00:44:09.000 And so people are now saying, a lot of people are reaching out to us.

00:44:12.000 What can we do?

00:44:13.000 Where can we go from here?

00:44:14.000 Here's one lesson.

00:44:15.000 If there's only one thing you take away from here, support the good guys.

00:44:19.000 Okay?

00:44:19.000 Find people that are truth tellers and just get behind them and pray for them.

00:44:24.000 Think about them.

00:44:25.000 Stay in contact with them.

00:44:27.000 And it really, I mean, whether it's our program or other programs like Mark Levin or what Candace Owens is doing, because I'm telling you right now, the future of our movement and whether or not we're going to have a movement will depend solely and wholly on our ability to be able to support the courageous folks in this moment.

00:44:45.000 That's really the big takeaway right now.

00:44:47.000 And the other parts we'll get into of exactly what you can do and how you'll be able to handle all that.

00:44:53.000 There's Congressman Ken Buck, also from Colorado.

00:44:56.000 We got a lot of Colorado representation.

00:44:59.000 If I were to venture a guess, though, I think they're going alphabetically through states because all the California folks spoke and now all the Colorado folks spoke.

00:45:07.000 So we'll get to Congressman Ken Buck in a second who is opposing this impeachment.

00:45:12.000 And by the way, they are going so quickly through an impeachment.

00:45:15.000 Just so you know, traffic court takes a couple days to try to figure out whether someone had a fender bender or not.

00:45:22.000 They're trying to impeach a president in half a day.

00:45:25.000 Congressman Kevin McCarthy is speaking from the House floor right now.

00:45:31.000 He has said he opposes impeachment, but he believes that the president does bear some responsibility for what has happened.

00:45:38.000 The question is, does he bear legal responsibility?

00:45:42.000 Governor Mike Huckabee said something that I think is pretty widely accepted, that the president could have chosen some of those words more carefully.

00:45:51.000 I don't think, I don't know what the president thought would happen or not.

00:45:54.000 That's up for, you know, that's an internal discussion and conversation that's going to need to happen.

00:46:00.000 However, to say clearly that you know that the president knew it was going to happen, he was inciting the former Attorney General of Washington, D.C., Shapiro, wrote a long piece in the Wall Street Journal saying that he believes that he bears no legal responsibility at all for speaking at that rally.

00:46:15.000 And so Congressman McCarthy is continuing to speak here.

00:46:18.000 But Isabel, you brought up a great point in the break here about how words are changing, about how when you control words, then you're able to control an entire society.

00:46:30.000 Absolutely, Charlie, and I'm glad you brought that up.

00:46:32.000 We're seeing this rhetoric dramatically evolve right before our eyes.

00:46:36.000 Last Wednesday, we said, just you wait, they'll say this.

00:46:38.000 And lo and behold, that all came true in just a few days.

00:46:42.000 And now I think it's gone beyond our expectations with Representative Eric Swalwell obviously equating President Trump to Osama bin Laden.

00:46:49.000 I believe that was earlier today.

00:46:50.000 And then now following that up with a statement on the House floor saying that President Trump is leading thousands of what he calls radicalized terrorists in this country.

00:47:00.000 First of all, there was only a few hundred people in the Capitol Rotunda last Wednesday, so it's pretty safe to assume that statement is a blanket statement across Trump supporters.

00:47:09.000 We've seen this rhetoric on the left of violence and division for many, many years.

00:47:13.000 Obviously, we saw that with Madonna threatening to blow up the White House, Kathy Griffin holding up the severed, bloody head of President Trump. 0.97

00:47:20.000 You saw Eric Holder saying we're going to kick them while they're down.

00:47:22.000 Maxine Waters encouraging people to confront administrative officials in this administration where they are.

00:47:28.000 But those words fight, confront, and even blow up, didn't seem to be taken literally in the past.

00:47:33.000 And yet, today we've discussed that fight has somewhat become the new F-word when it comes to American culture.

00:47:39.000 Congressman Gates said it best just now in his speech on the floor: words matter.

00:47:43.000 And when you can effectively control, from a government and a cultural perspective, 100% of the words by silencing all of your opposition, you control 100% of society, history, and what's happening right before your eyes.

00:47:56.000 That's really well said.

00:47:58.000 And so, when you're able to control the language that people use when they describe certain circumstances and how they communicate values, then you're able to control basically everything, which is exactly what is happening right now in our country.

00:48:13.000 And so, you know, an analysis, I think, what happened here at the Capitol is that you had some really guys that were trying to make some trouble.

00:48:22.000 You had some troublemakers that were there before the president even started speaking.

00:48:26.000 That's according to the New York Times.

00:48:28.000 They were there wearing bulletproof vests, helmets.

00:48:33.000 They had very similar-looking goggles.

00:48:35.000 They had mace on them.

00:48:36.000 They looked like they were there ready for a fight.

00:48:39.000 They did not look like they were just kind of the normal Trump supporter where they're kind of just wearing, you know, a Make America Great Again shirt and kind of waving the flag, right?

00:48:48.000 Those were different-looking folks.

00:48:50.000 What I think ended up happening is that some of the instigators and some of the troublemakers, and quite honestly, the ones that assaulted the police officers, the criminals, started to attack and attack and attack.

00:49:04.000 I think that Trump supporters that never would have been caught up in something like that did get caught up in it.

00:49:10.000 And a lot of them have expressed sincere and total regret.

00:49:14.000 However, for the people that had come into Washington, D.C. with schematics that planted pipe bombs at the RNC and the DNC that were coming and were acting in forces of violence against police officers that killed the police officer, yeah, I mean, I find that very hard not to call that domestic terrorism.

00:49:34.000 However, looping in every single person that was there in Washington, D.C. into that category is extraordinarily dangerous.

00:49:41.000 And here's the one thing that I'm struggling to figure out: which is if we knew those instigators were there and if we knew this was happening and the FBI and the DOJ had advanced notice of this, did they tell the president about that?

00:49:56.000 I don't know.

00:49:57.000 I'm just asking a question.

00:49:59.000 If they did and the president still gave his remarks, that's a different story.

00:50:03.000 But I think the question is of this: I think the deeper question is: why are the Democrats intentionally not talking about these events with zero nuance at all whatsoever?

00:50:15.000 And the reason is that they do want permanent political banishment.

00:50:19.000 They see here this is their great power grab.

00:50:22.000 They see this as an opportunity to remain in almost permanent political power under this by because of this event.

00:50:30.000 They're almost making it seem as if that half the country justifies and supports what happens there, happened there.

00:50:38.000 And that is not true.

00:50:39.000 And there have been people that have been listening to our program that have emailed us that have been calling for this kind of some of this nonsense.

00:50:46.000 And I can tell you what's been really interesting to see, though, is that some of the people that were emailing us saying, you know, time for a civil war, many of them have emailed me since and say they regret emailing that.

00:50:56.000 They no longer feel that way.

00:50:58.000 And we were pushing back against it in real time.

00:51:01.000 And I think that when emotions are running high, some people do things that they really, really regret.

00:51:06.000 What makes the argument that they're making on the House floor categorically different is that they're comparing President Trump to Osama bin Laden.

00:51:16.000 Osama bin Laden did not launch the attack because he just got suddenly angry. 0.73

00:51:20.000 Correct.

00:51:21.000 It was patiently and specifically and strategically planned over a long period of time.

00:51:28.000 That's what they're acting as if this was, and that everyone was involved in that.

00:51:33.000 That is just not true.

00:51:34.000 In the legal community, they refer to that as crimes of passion, right?

00:51:38.000 You get taken away by the moment.

00:51:39.000 Your emotions get the better of you.

00:51:41.000 And honestly, you kind of lose your ability to think clearly and have logical rationing to help you get through those situations.

00:51:47.000 Clearly, we know that this was not a crime of passion that happened at the Capitol last week.

00:51:52.000 There were people there hours and hours and hours before President Trump's speech.

00:51:55.000 So even to suggest that the language in his speech, which we've gone through over and over and over again with his statement saying peacefully and patriotically demonstrate at the Capitol, even to say that speech would have incited any violence on Capitol Hill is completely wrong.

00:52:09.000 It's false and it's a lie.

00:52:12.000 But similarly, what happened on 9-11 and throughout history, really, with radicalized terrorist groups is that these weren't crimes of passion.

00:52:20.000 These were very carefully and meticulously planned out.

00:52:22.000 So their narrative is very obviously conflicting in and of itself.

00:52:27.000 I'm so shocked to see Maxine Waters support impeachment.

00:52:32.000 I'm floored, honestly.

00:52:32.000 Shocking, really.

00:52:34.000 You know, I found it interesting.

00:52:35.000 She said from the first day of his presidency, he's been trying to undermine democracy and has been dangerous.

00:52:41.000 But they've tried impeaching the president since the first day of his presidency.

00:52:44.000 That's exactly right.

00:52:45.000 They tried to peach him during the transition.

00:52:47.000 That's right.

00:52:47.000 Yeah.

00:52:48.000 So I'm not exactly shocked at Maxine Waters' take there.

00:52:51.000 And her language, again, you can start to see parallels between how the Democrats are wrongly describing this, that President Donald Trump is capable of starting a civil war, that President Donald Trump will continue on this path.

00:53:06.000 And so they made it very clear that they don't want to just criminalize Trump supporters.

00:53:10.000 They want to go after him.

00:53:11.000 And that's what this is trying to do as well.

00:53:13.000 This is trying to create this narrative.

00:53:16.000 And so, look, the Democrats' policies are awful.

00:53:20.000 You might say, Charlie, what does it have to do with anything?

00:53:22.000 Bear with me.

00:53:22.000 The Democrats' policies are unpopular.

00:53:25.000 They don't work.

00:53:26.000 And they're awful.

00:53:27.000 And deep down, Democrats actually know this. 0.97

00:53:28.000 Cortez hasn't learned this yet.

00:53:30.000 She'll learn this in maybe a decade.

00:53:31.000 But the policies Democrats have, it's actually really hard to stay in long-term political power in close elections when you endorse the Democrat policies.

00:53:39.000 How do you stay in political power then?

00:53:42.000 You stay in political power if you're not the worst thing in the world.

00:53:45.000 That's what.

00:53:46.000 The Democrats know this.

00:53:47.000 The Democrats, now that they control all of government, that they're actually going to be blamed for the awful policies that are about to happen.

00:53:54.000 Tax increases, abolition of oil and natural gas, regulatory requirements, shutting down the country, all of that.

00:54:06.000 So the Democrats are looking strategically, how can they stay in positive light in the public while also having these awful policies on display?

00:54:22.000 And the answer that they have is by creating a narrative that half the country is actually Timothy McVeigh.

00:54:30.000 And if you don't know who Timothy McVeigh is, we can go into that, I guess, in a future episode of the program, but he was the Oklahoma City bomber, one of the worst acts of domestic terror in the country.

00:54:41.000 Now, Timothy McVeigh did not do that as an act of passion, right?

00:54:46.000 That was plotted, that was planned.

00:54:48.000 Some people would even say that he did that in response to the Waco Branch Davidian massacre.

00:54:54.000 Anyway, we can get into that at a different time.

00:54:55.000 The point is that that is an archetype of what the left considers to be what they call a far-right wing domestic terrorist.

00:55:03.000 How do you stay in permanent political power?

00:55:06.000 You convince people in the middle and your base that the other half of the country is always trying to plan an insurrection.

00:55:13.000 And that's why it's so important that we make this abundantly clear of who exactly is behind this, who exactly is condoning this, who exactly is supporting this, what actually happened.

00:55:23.000 Because if the Democrats are successful here, they're going to create a very, very troublesome political narrative.

00:55:30.000 I don't know if you guys remember this or not.

00:55:32.000 This is actually where I got my political start.

00:55:34.000 Back in the Tea Party movement, the Democrats were very threatened by the Tea Party, and they did call every Tea Party person, anti-government, Timothy McVeigh.

00:55:46.000 There was a moment where a black congressman was leaving the House of Representatives, and he alleged that a Tea Party person spit on him and called him a very, very bad name.

00:55:57.000 That actually ended up not being true, ended up being unproven.

00:56:01.000 But we have dealt with these sorts of accusations before.

00:56:04.000 What obviously makes this different and very, you know, it's just not going to go away is because, yeah, people did go and break windows, and thugs did go and assault police officers.

00:56:18.000 And people did go plant pipe bombs.

00:56:21.000 And these JV, whatever you want to call them, domestic terrorists, whatever, came with zip.

00:56:27.000 They have these zip ties.

00:56:29.000 I mean, what do you think you're doing?

00:56:31.000 And that's just wrong, and it's just reprehensible, quite honestly.

00:56:35.000 And so it does make the framing of this different, but this playbook is not necessarily anything new.

00:56:43.000 We saw a lot of this language back in 2010 and 2011.

00:56:47.000 And the reason the Democrats resorted to this language back in 2010 and 2011 is when Barack Obama was president, they started to realize that his policies were not actually helping people and they were incredibly unpopular.

00:57:02.000 And so, believe it or not, a lot of what's happening today in the House of Representatives floor, driven by Democrats, is trying to buy them some time.

00:57:11.000 They actually know that President Donald Trump had a pretty amazing track record of success, policy-wise, and he did.

00:57:19.000 They also know that they soon are not going to be able to shift the blame if vaccines aren't getting delivered.

00:57:27.000 They're not going to be able to shift the blame any longer if all of a sudden that lockdowns continue.

00:57:32.000 They're no longer going to be able to have these long morning show diatribes at how Donald Trump is intentionally infecting people and all that sort of stuff.

00:57:42.000 They're going to be in charge.

00:57:43.000 Now, what's the one thing that could give them an excuse, though?

00:57:48.000 The one thing that could give them an excuse is if they're focusing their time and energy on a multi-million person potential insurrection, that would give them potential public support.

00:58:02.000 It would give them media support.

00:58:04.000 It was already given them social media support.

00:58:07.000 And so just look at this strategically.

00:58:09.000 The Democrats have never wanted to actually govern.

00:58:13.000 Democrats are awful at governing.

00:58:15.000 They actually don't like it. 0.96

00:58:17.000 Democrats care much more about politics than government.

00:58:20.000 I know that sounds strange.

00:58:22.000 Democrats like personnel, but everything Democrats do is always viewed through the lens of politics.

00:58:29.000 Everything.

00:58:30.000 You look at states where they actually have to govern, they're all catastrophic.

00:58:34.000 They're catastrophes.

00:58:36.000 Look at California when they had to govern.

00:58:38.000 I mean, it's a disaster. 0.86

00:58:39.000 When Democrats don't lose power, is if they can caricature the other side as being a terrible, awful, horrible person.

00:58:47.000 This is how they beat Mitt Romney back in 2012. 0.93

00:58:50.000 They said he's a corporate raider and he puts dogs on the roof of his car.

00:58:54.000 A lot of you don't even remember this, but we went through this sort of stuff and we defended Mitt like you wouldn't believe and whatever.

00:59:01.000 We all know how that one played out.

00:59:02.000 You remember that, Isabel?

00:59:03.000 The dogs on the roof of the car?

00:59:04.000 I don't remember that.

00:59:05.000 And when they used to make Mitt Romney, you want to know what a political scandal used to be?

00:59:10.000 A political scandal used to be a candidate at a fundraiser saying, you know, only 47% of the people pay taxes in this country, and 51% don't.

00:59:21.000 And they're going to have to subsidize the other side.

00:59:23.000 He's the worst person ever.

00:59:25.000 That used to be a political scandal eight years ago.

00:59:27.000 The point is, the media will make anything into a political scandal.

00:59:30.000 We are talking about this 47% remark endlessly.

00:59:34.000 So the question is, why are the Democrats really doing this?

00:59:38.000 And the answer is obviously they see a political opportunity in this, but they're actually really scared that they're going to soon be blamed for governance.

00:59:46.000 And they're not good at it.

00:59:48.000 So when the next tax bill comes up and Senator Bernie Sanders is in charge of the budget committee, they don't like that.

00:59:54.000 They're like, oh, no, no, no.

00:59:56.000 However, if all of a sudden he's in charge of the budget committee and he's going to say, I need $100 billion to go fight insurrection, people are going to not focus on the other side of it.

01:00:07.000 And so that's why it's so incredibly important that we make our position clear of who is actually there, how they have no support at all whatsoever of the people that committed those heinous crimes, and how we put the Democrats hopefully on defense of some of this.

01:00:21.000 Right, Charlie.

01:00:22.000 And let's not forget that in two very short years, that sounds like a long time away, but it's really not because campaigning for that starts very, very soon.

01:00:30.000 These individuals in Congress are going to have to defend their seats again and prove to the American voter that they are the right choice to send back to Washington, D.C.

01:00:38.000 They don't have to worry about that so much if they completely eliminate the opposition.

01:00:43.000 So what does that mean?

01:00:44.000 It doesn't necessarily mean taking President Trump out of office.

01:00:46.000 It means identifying the ideology that put him there to begin with and squashing that to the highest extent possible.

01:00:53.000 They are looking specifically, if you pay attention, at these new age conservatives that have just come into Congress as the first people who have to go.

01:01:01.000 It's just like firing in a corporate structure.

01:01:03.000 The first people in are the first people to go because they represent this newfound resurgence of conservative ideas.

01:01:09.000 That's why they're going so hard against Lauren Boebert, Madison Cawthorne, against Matt Gates, who's not necessarily new, but he's been there for a couple of years.

01:01:18.000 They want them gone.

01:01:19.000 They don't like the energy.

01:01:20.000 And this is all about 2022.

01:01:22.000 Remember, Democrats don't like governance.

01:01:24.000 They like politics.

01:01:25.000 And they're just as focused on erasing this narrative from the president as they are in completely erasing the color red by 2022.

01:01:32.000 So I think that's going to be a lot of fun.

01:01:33.000 I don't know. 0.97

01:01:33.000 Yvette Clark was wearing a lot of red. 0.97

01:01:35.000 She's a red dress. 1.00

01:01:36.000 Yeah, with a red mask, too.

01:01:38.000 So I don't know.

01:01:39.000 That's going to be a tough thing to do.

01:01:41.000 Yeah.

01:01:42.000 But I think that's really an important point that I think we need to mention and talk about, which is that the Democrats are doing everything they possibly can right now to try and rewrite history and trying to misrepresent half the country.

01:01:58.000 And even just, and we've been through this many times, but even just the people that were in D.C., even just the people that were within a mile of the Capitol, not all of them even stepped foot on the Capitol steps, let alone into the rotunda.

01:02:10.000 There's a lot of different gradations of difference here that I think are super important to this.

01:02:19.000 And so you look at this debate that's happening.

01:02:24.000 I don't know who that is right now in the impeachment of President Trump.

01:02:27.000 And we're going to be monitoring this all day on our streams here.

01:02:32.000 The Democrats have made their position very clear.

01:02:36.000 They almost don't want to live with the other half of the country.

01:02:38.000 They don't.

01:02:39.000 And this is their second impeachment of this president.

01:02:42.000 They very well could have just let the term expire.

01:02:46.000 And instead, we are seeing the exact opposite of that right now.

01:02:51.000 Right.

01:02:51.000 We're hearing a lot of this word unity from the most outspoken individuals in the Democrat Party.

01:02:56.000 But from what I can tell, unity does not actually mean reconciling our differences and coming together as one United States of America.

01:03:03.000 It means get in line or else.

01:03:04.000 And if you're not part of our agenda, we are going to do absolutely everything we can to destroy your existence.

01:03:10.000 You have no digital footprint online.

01:03:12.000 They're trying to take away legal licenses from people associated with President Donald Trump.

01:03:17.000 We're seeing that with Rudy Giuliani in the New York State Bar.

01:03:19.000 They're trying to put outspoken conservatives who weren't even in Washington, D.C., such as yourself, on no-fly lists, saying that you shouldn't be able to commercially fly airlines.

01:03:28.000 That'll be tough for me to do my job. 0.86

01:03:30.000 Ridiculous. 0.54

01:03:30.000 I mean, the level of insanity that we've reached while also simultaneously calling it unity just mind-boggles me. 0.54

01:03:36.000 Also, where was I on the day of all of this?

01:03:39.000 This room.

01:03:40.000 We were both right in the world.

01:03:41.000 What was I doing?

01:03:41.000 I was denouncing.

01:03:43.000 Over and over and over again.

01:03:44.000 I can't tell you how many people have sent me emails or DMs saying, How come you haven't denounced this?

01:03:48.000 How come you haven't said anything?

01:03:50.000 We're here.

01:03:51.000 Everyone.

01:03:53.000 Jeez.

01:03:53.000 Okay, let's get to a question here.

01:03:54.000 Hi, Charlie and Isabelle.

01:03:56.000 I appreciate both of your insights.

01:03:58.000 They spelled it insight.

01:03:59.000 I don't think they meant that on what's happening in America.

01:04:04.000 Longtime listener, big-time fan.

01:04:05.000 Are the Democrats even making any valid constitutional points to impeach the president?

01:04:09.000 To me, it sounds like they're just having a big wine party about what they don't like.

01:04:13.000 What are your thoughts on this?

01:04:15.000 Great, great question.

01:04:16.000 Alana from New Hampshire.

01:04:17.000 We appreciate that you listen.

01:04:19.000 We were just talking about this during the break because now we are hearing from Mitch McConnell that they're likely not going to schedule a trial before the termination of President Trump's first term by inauguration day.

01:04:30.000 So, what does that mean?

01:04:31.000 Can you impeach a prior president that's not currently sitting in publicly elected office?

01:04:36.000 It's sort of a constitutional gray area, which I find interesting because we were just talking about constitutional gray areas last week, and all of a sudden this is being pushed full steam ahead.

01:04:46.000 But essentially, what the Constitution says is that the only individuals that are eligible for impeachment are called civil officers.

01:04:53.000 So, that's people currently sitting in elected position or within the executive branch.

01:04:58.000 President Trump becomes a private citizen here in just a few days.

01:05:01.000 He's no longer a civil officer.

01:05:03.000 So, in a very plain black and white text reading of the Constitution, I would say that that's not constitutionally permitted.

01:05:10.000 Yeah, and so some people say you can impeach once someone is out of the office.

01:05:14.000 We don't know yet.

01:05:15.000 Right.

01:05:15.000 It's a very, I mean, they also want to bar President Trump from ever running again.

01:05:21.000 Now, I'm going to talk in metaphors here, but metaphorically, what they want to do is they want to try to get the top of a movement that threatens their political power.

01:05:31.000 They want to try to remove it.

01:05:32.000 They want to metaphorically try to, at all costs, make an example of President Donald Trump, which is exactly what we predicted and tragically what is happening here.

01:05:44.000 Email us your questions as well here: freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:05:50.000 I'd be really interested to kind of hear what your thoughts and what your feelings are of what's happening right now and your thoughts on it.

01:05:57.000 I know a lot of people are quite honestly outraged at what's happening in our country, and a lot of Republicans are going along with this.

01:06:04.000 They're just trying to duck for cover.

01:06:07.000 But Liz Cheney has also come along with this, which is, you know, pretty incredible.

01:06:14.000 Yeah, I was a little shocked reading some of that and the language that she used.

01:06:18.000 I think this really goes back to what we were talking about a few days ago on this stream, Charlie, and that is we're seeing a great divide politically on both sides of the aisle.

01:06:26.000 You're seeing that on the left between socialism and more classically liberal ideas.

01:06:30.000 And then, obviously, you're starting to see that now between establishment republicanism and what I like to call new age conservatism, people like Madison Cawthorne and Lewis Boebert, who feel much more directly responsible for the American people rather than the political party that they're adhering to.

01:06:45.000 So I'm curious to see how that might ride out.

01:06:48.000 I anticipate that the two-party system is really going out of style here pretty quickly.

01:06:52.000 I think you're right.

01:06:53.000 Here's a question from Michelle.

01:06:54.000 If Trump is impeached and removed from office, will he be facing criminal charges for inciting violence?

01:07:00.000 We don't know.

01:07:01.000 There's been a lot of stories written about this.

01:07:03.000 It could be that the Attorney General of D.C., which actually files in federal court, who has the jurisdiction of whatever happens in Washington, D.C., might be coming after him for inciting violence.

01:07:14.000 That's going to be a tough threshold beyond a reasonable doubt to hit.

01:07:19.000 But that's not to say that's going to be necessarily impossible for them to be able to achieve.

01:07:25.000 But I will say that they're going to try to do everything they possibly can.

01:07:28.000 And I think there were some remarks done yesterday that goes to show that.

01:07:32.000 And they're not being shy with that at all, whatsoever.

01:07:36.000 So, just in a crowd with expel all fascist signs seen outside of the United States Capitol.

01:07:44.000 So that is probably an Antifa group, is my best guess.

01:07:49.000 And that is they are wearing lots of masks and they are congregating outside of the United States Capitol.

01:07:56.000 So we will be monitoring that in real time.

01:07:58.000 As it happens, it looks like the Capitol Police are much better prepared.

01:08:03.000 And so there's a couple of competing theories of, and I think that, again, this is the nuance that's really important: is that at certain points of entry, the police were letting people through.

01:08:18.000 At other points of entry, police were getting dragged and beat with fire extinguishers.

01:08:22.000 Other parts of entry, I'm talking about in Congress, barricades are being overrun and Mesas being spread.

01:08:27.000 So there was almost like 15 different areas that were happening.

01:08:32.000 And whether or not there was a central command structure of this, you know, needs to be found out because I don't know if there was someone that was trying to oversee all this or what the operation of it all was.

01:08:44.000 But I can say this, that the police, some of which seemed they did not want to give an inch, right?

01:08:53.000 Other police said you can come all the way through.

01:08:56.000 But I think it's very fair to say that the police were not prepared at all.

01:09:00.000 And so there's a couple theories on this.

01:09:02.000 Were they was just requests denied because they just underestimated it?

01:09:06.000 Or did the police just think that in rallies in the past with Trump supporters, they're mostly, you know, they're basically always, always, always peaceful.

01:09:13.000 And so there won't be any problems here.

01:09:14.000 We don't know.

01:09:15.000 But that investigation is going to continue on.

01:09:18.000 And we're going to find out exactly what happens here.

01:09:20.000 Isabel, any other thoughts?

01:09:21.000 I do have a thought as we're waiting for some of your guys' questions.

01:09:24.000 The word fascism I have seen more frequently in the last week than the last four years combined.

01:09:29.000 And if you're watching this program and you don't inherently understand what fascism is, it's time to start looking these things up.

01:09:35.000 Fascism centers around complete control of a population from the highest levels of government and culture and society down.

01:09:43.000 It involves eliminating your opposition, restricting free speech.

01:09:46.000 None of that is upheld within the conservative movement or the Republican Party.

01:09:50.000 So don't believe the headlines that you read from the mainstream media, this sign of expel all fascists from government outside the U.S. Capitol right now.

01:09:59.000 They're saying that's in reference to conservative individuals in Congress.

01:10:02.000 But in reality, if you actually break down ideology, it has nothing to do with one another whatsoever.

01:10:07.000 I agree completely whatsoever.

01:10:09.000 And fascism was originally coined in the 1930s.

01:10:14.000 Antonio Gramsci played a role in that more in kind of cultural Marxism.

01:10:17.000 They actually go into what fascism means.

01:10:19.000 It means a bundle of sticks because it's all very tightly bound in the control.

01:10:24.000 The actual term is what it comes from.

01:10:26.000 So continue to email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

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01:10:44.000 Let's get to this question here.

01:10:45.000 Hey, Charlie and Isabel, I really like your show.

01:10:47.000 It's very insightful and informative.

01:10:49.000 So we have the 25th Amendment for the president, but how can we remove a congressperson besides an election to vote them out?

01:10:55.000 Some of these congresspeople are very divisive and dangerous with their violent rhetoric, best Doug.

01:10:59.000 So it's my belief that only fellow congresspeople can remove them.

01:11:02.000 Is that right?

01:11:02.000 Yeah, I believe it's called expulsion.

01:11:04.000 It's not called impeachment.

01:11:05.000 So they can essentially vote together by majority vote in either the Senate or the House to expel a fellow member of their body.

01:11:12.000 And the next question is here.

01:11:14.000 Let's say, hi, Charlie and Isabella.

01:11:16.000 I've studied a decent amount of European history for a long time.

01:11:19.000 The East has looked to the West for advancement.

01:11:21.000 But do you think the time has now come where the West has looked to the East for wisdom on how to break through this spiral of socialism and communism?

01:11:26.000 From what I've read, the only way that this evil can be removed from our country is through the persistent cultural change, never through violence.

01:11:32.000 I completely agree.

01:11:33.000 I would definitely not look to China, though, right now to actually how to solve totalitarianism.

01:11:39.000 I don't know if they'll actually have a very good playbook for that.

01:11:42.000 Let's get to this question here.

01:11:43.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:11:43.000 Just wanted to say I love your show and we'll continue to support it.

01:11:46.000 I have a couple of questions.

01:11:48.000 What is the Insurrection Act?

01:11:50.000 And did Trump sign it?

01:11:51.000 Do you think he'll declare martial law?

01:11:53.000 I do not.

01:11:54.000 There's a lot of fake internet rumors out there that a lot of good people are believing.

01:11:59.000 The Insurrection Act was not signed.

01:12:01.000 The Insurrection Act is in place to help quell mobs and violent uprisings in the country.

01:12:06.000 It was last used by President H.W. Bush to quell the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles.

01:12:12.000 Many of us were calling for the president to use the Insurrection Act over the summer, but no, the President has not signed the Insurrection Act.

01:12:18.000 He has declared Washington, D.C., a state of emergency, but he has not signed the Insurrection Act.

01:12:26.000 Let's go to one more here.

01:12:30.000 After 30 years of trying to talk to our representatives to follow the Constitution and protect our God-given rights, how many more years do we have to talk?

01:12:36.000 Citizens talked up until 1770, 75.

01:12:40.000 1775, Lexington and Concord.

01:12:42.000 I'm just asking, how much longer do you think we have to talk before we realize it's a wall?

01:12:45.000 Jeff Kay from Clarkson, Michigan, P.S., they'll never stop hunting Trump.

01:12:50.000 That's true.

01:12:51.000 They're never going to stop going after Trump.

01:12:53.000 Look, as soon as you go to violence, there's no going back.

01:12:57.000 And there is no good playbook for how violence plays itself out well.

01:13:03.000 That's why we have time and time again condemned and pushed back against violence, especially violence that tries to engage in any form of going after elected officials.

01:13:13.000 But look, the question is rooted in basically, I'm running out of patience.

01:13:17.000 And look, the conservatives held a lot more cards 10 or 15 years ago.

01:13:22.000 And I know that a lot of people said, I did a lot back 15 or 20 years ago.

01:13:25.000 Maybe you did.

01:13:26.000 But I can tell you right now that the left was relentless.

01:13:31.000 The left was relentless for years.

01:13:33.000 And they took over institutions.

01:13:35.000 They took over every form and fashion of our country and our government.

01:13:41.000 Now it's us for us to build new things and to take over things as well back in our country.

01:13:48.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - January 14, 2021

A House Divided and Pelosi's Shampeachment 2.0

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