The Charlie Kirk Show - December 07, 2021


A Jan. 6 Standoff with Mark Meadows


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Today on the Charlie Kirk Show we remember Pearl Harbor and also we must recognize that we ve had a Pearl Harbor of our own the last couple years. We explain what that means and also Mark Meadows who says that he will not comply with the January 6th committee and he explains why.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, we remember Pearl Harbor.
00:00:03.000 And also we must recognize that we've had a Pearl Harbor of our own the last couple years.
00:00:08.000 We explain what that means and also we have Mark Meadows who at Break Some News.
00:00:12.000 He says that he will not comply with the January 6th committee and he explains why.
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00:03:39.000 I want to start.
00:03:40.000 It's December 7th.
00:03:42.000 If you were to go to most college kids, most college kids studying history.
00:03:50.000 And you just walked on a college campus today.
00:03:52.000 We should do this video, Connor.
00:03:54.000 It would be fascinating.
00:03:57.000 What historically happened on December 7th?
00:04:01.000 And they'd say, many would say, I don't know.
00:04:05.000 I would have no idea.
00:04:08.000 Well, December 7th, of course, was Pearl Harbor, 1941, a day which will live in infamy.
00:04:14.000 The man overseeing the base operations in Hawaii, if I remember correctly, his name is Admiral Husband.
00:04:21.000 Husband Kimmel.
00:04:22.000 My memory serves me right.
00:04:24.000 Now, it's this great metaphor, which is, and it's actually tragic.
00:04:29.000 He was a great guy.
00:04:30.000 He just decided to go golfing on the wrong day.
00:04:34.000 He went golfing on a beautiful Hawaiian morning.
00:04:37.000 And next thing you know, the preemptive strike against the United States occurred, which basically sunk our entire Pacific fleet.
00:04:46.000 Thousands of Americans died and left us so geopolitically and strategically vulnerable.
00:04:55.000 In the hours and days that followed, there was fear that the Japanese would attack California next, that an amphibious ground invade, amphibious invasion of the western part of the United States was imminent.
00:05:08.000 America's reaction to Pearl Harbor showed us the type of country we were.
00:05:13.000 We didn't tolerate it.
00:05:15.000 Even FDR, a left-wing Democrat, rallied the forces domestically and said, we are now going to go to war and we are going to win.
00:05:24.000 Franklin Delano Roosevelt in Cut 28 said, a day that will live in infamy.
00:05:31.000 Play Cut 28.
00:05:32.000 Yesterday, December 7th, 1941, a date which will live in infamy.
00:05:46.000 The United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.
00:05:59.000 As Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy, I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense.
00:06:09.000 But always will our whole nation remember the character of the onslaught against us.
00:06:19.000 I ask that the Congress declare a state of war between the United States and the Japanese Empire.
00:06:35.000 The speech is really good.
00:06:38.000 And it said a lot about who we were as a nation, what we were willing to do to defend the homeland.
00:06:48.000 In the days that followed, the happiest man after Pearl Harbor was, of course, the greatest man to live in the 20th century, Winston Churchill.
00:06:58.000 Winston Churchill said, quote, no American will think it wrong of me if I proclaim to have the United States at our side was to me the greatest joy.
00:07:10.000 I could not foretell the course of events.
00:07:12.000 I do not pretend to have measured the martial might of Japan, but now at this very moment, I knew the United States was in the war up to the neck and into the death.
00:07:21.000 So we had won after all.
00:07:24.000 Winston Churchill continued by saying, England would live.
00:07:27.000 Britain would live. 0.98
00:07:28.000 The Commonwealth of Nations and the Empire would live. 0.93
00:07:31.000 How long the war would last or in what fashion it would end, no man could tell, nor I at this moment care.
00:07:38.000 Once again, in the long history of our island, we should emerge.
00:07:41.000 However, mauled or mutilated, safe and victorious, we should not be wiped out.
00:07:46.000 Our history would not come to an end.
00:07:48.000 We might not even have to die as individuals.
00:07:51.000 Churchill concluded by saying Hitler's fate was sealed.
00:07:54.000 Mussolini's fate was sealed.
00:07:55.000 As for the Japanese, they would have ground, they would be ground to powder. 1.00
00:08:01.000 All the rest was merely proper application of an overwhelming force.
00:08:05.000 United we could subdue everybody else in the world.
00:08:07.000 Many disasters, immeasurable cost and tribulation lay ahead, but there was no doubt about the end.
00:08:15.000 Winston Churchill, the greatest man to live in the 20th century.
00:08:19.000 What if I told you that as we remember Pearl Harbor and the greatest generation that stepped up to the plate to storm Normandy Beach, Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, the Battle of the Bulge, winning a two-front war against existential evil?
00:08:35.000 What if I told you that we had our own form of Pearl Harbor, an epidemiological Pearl Harbor that was launched by the Chinese Communist Party that we might have funded through gain of function research?
00:08:46.000 What if I told you that the Chinese coronavirus developed in a laboratory, intentionally or unintentionally unleashed, we may never know, on the Western world and eventually the entire world was a civilization-changing bioweapon to change our voting laws, our way of life, to have a $3.8 trillion wealth transfer. 0.97
00:09:06.000 And how did we react?
00:09:08.000 Did we have a day that will live in infamy?
00:09:11.000 Have we held China accountable for the damage, the death, the destruction that the epidemiological Pearl Harbor, that was the Chinese corona Fauci virus, inflicted on the American people? 0.90
00:09:23.000 No, instead, we've done the opposite.
00:09:26.000 Instead, China has only grown stronger.
00:09:29.000 And by the way, people are calling everything a new Pearl Harbor.
00:09:33.000 They say January 6th is Pearl Harbor.
00:09:34.000 They say the only appropriate Pearl Harbor analogy is the Chinese coronavirus that was unleashed on the entire world. 0.99
00:09:43.000 Instead of bombing the Pacific Fleet, instead of trying to cripple our military advantage, instead it was an invisible enemy, one that went to the hearts and the minds, the psyche, the fears, the anxieties of an ever anxious nation.
00:10:01.000 A rise in suicide, mental health, depression, triple masking, vaccinating children, an entire way of life completely and totally being remade by an invisible epidemiological Pearl Harbor by the Chinese Communist Party. 0.91
00:10:14.000 And so we look at Pearl Harbor, we look at the rallying cry and the unification that we had against the Japanese and we were ready for war and we won. 0.78
00:10:25.000 What happened?
00:10:27.000 Where is the commission to try to hold the Chinese Communist Party accountable?
00:10:32.000 Where is the widespread uniform agreement that the Chinese Communist Party should not be able to send their students to U.S. universities?
00:10:41.000 Where is the agreement that the Chinese Communist Party shouldn't be able to own farmland, especially near military strategic bases?
00:10:48.000 Where is the agreement that the Chinese Communist Party shouldn't be doing business with the National Basketball Association or with Hollywood or with Wall Street?
00:10:56.000 You want to see the difference between where America is today and versus 1941, December 7th, a day that will live in infamy?
00:11:04.000 The difference is that when we were attacked on December 7th, Americans couldn't care less about profits, momentary pleasure, or plastic being imported from other countries.
00:11:14.000 They prioritized their nation to be first.
00:11:18.000 But when the Chinese Communist Party launched an epidemiological Pearl Harbor against you, your loved ones, your family, and changed the American way of life and trying to change it permanently and shred and put the U.S. Constitution into destruction, why has that not been the same reaction? 0.98
00:11:37.000 That's an interesting question to explore.
00:11:41.000 Now, I do know there's a remnant of Americans that want to respond, that want to actually hold the Chinese Communist Party accountable and punch back twice as hard. 0.87
00:11:52.000 But that would require something that we've decided to destroy in America.
00:11:57.000 Courage, strength, amongst many other things.
00:12:03.000 We remember the sacrifices in Pearl Harbor.
00:12:06.000 But why are we ignoring the Pearl Harbor of our generation?
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00:13:15.000 The Democrats call everything Pearl Harbor nowadays.
00:13:18.000 Cut 33, Chuck Schumer compared January 6th to Pearl Harbor.
00:13:21.000 Play Cut 33.
00:13:23.000 President Franklin Roosevelt set aside December 7th, 1941 as a day that will live in infamy.
00:13:32.000 Unfortunately, we can now add January 6th, 2021 to that very short list of dates in American history that will live forever in infamy.
00:13:45.000 Bernie Sanders says that the climate war that we're in, we've already experienced Pearl Harbor.
00:13:52.000 Climate war?
00:13:53.000 What?
00:13:54.000 Play cut 34.
00:13:56.000 But what I don't agree with you, Chris, on, is whether or not we have seen Pearl Harbor.
00:14:02.000 I think you've seen the Bahamas.
00:14:04.000 You've seen Katrina.
00:14:05.000 You've seen drought and floods all over the world.
00:14:10.000 And Steve Cohen said that, well, January 6th, we are under attack just as much on January 6th as Pearl Harbor.
00:14:18.000 Play Cut 35.
00:14:19.000 January 6th is a day like that.
00:14:22.000 It's a day that should be remembered in America because our democracy was at stake.
00:14:26.000 This was an attack on our democracy as much as Pearl Harbor was an attack on our country. 0.54
00:14:33.000 So I guess, yeah, next to Fredo Cuomo, he's no longer employed.
00:14:37.000 I suppose the real question here is, if the Democrats Schumer, Sanders, and Cohen are so generously describing everything as Pearl Harbor, from what happened on January 6th to climate change, why are they hesitant to call the Chinese coronavirus an epidemiological Pearl Harbor against America?
00:14:58.000 What is it about America that makes them so hesitant, or what is it about China that makes them so hesitant to try to draw the line when it comes to America?
00:15:07.000 Something that Americans do not want to admit is that we're already in a non-kinetic war with China.
00:15:14.000 They're not an adversary.
00:15:16.000 They are not a competitor.
00:15:17.000 They're not a rival.
00:15:19.000 It's not like Alabama versus Auburn.
00:15:21.000 It's not like Oklahoma State versus Oklahoma.
00:15:24.000 They're an enemy.
00:15:25.000 They're a sworn enemy of America. 0.55
00:15:27.000 And they knew that we would react in a very passive way.
00:15:30.000 And part of this, of course, is we have decided in our tone, in our language, in our posture, to become far less, I mean, the politically correct way to say it is strong, but let's just call it what it is, less masculine and more feminine in the way that we approach geopolitics.
00:15:50.000 And I've said this before, a country can become too masculine.
00:15:54.000 You need a balance of both.
00:15:56.000 You need a balance between bullheadedness and a dedication and a focus on a goal and also on patience and hopefully it's a little nuance.
00:16:08.000 For example, a country that becomes too masculine ends up being autocratic.
00:16:13.000 A country that ends up becoming too feminine ends up being chaotic, ends up being there's no strength at all whatsoever. 1.00
00:16:20.000 There's no direction.
00:16:22.000 That balance is incredibly necessary.
00:16:25.000 And I'm not saying either our pejorative or a negative or a positive.
00:16:29.000 I am saying, though, is if we did not have this all-out assault on the American male, which has been happening in the last 30, 40 years, I wonder if our response to the Chinese Communist Party would be any different. 0.95
00:16:46.000 The Chinese coronavirus has killed more Americans than did the combat deaths in every single war America has ever fought combined.
00:16:53.000 Now, by the way, I think that the deaths from COVID could have been massively mitigated, not from mask wearing or lockdowns or vaccines, but from vitamin D levels.
00:17:04.000 We did a whole episode on that.
00:17:05.000 You guys should check it out on the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.
00:17:08.000 Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, is zithromycin.
00:17:11.000 But if you just look at the numbers, 787,000 people have died from the Chinese coronavirus.
00:17:18.000 Yet Steve Cohen and Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, they don't want to call China for what they've done.
00:17:24.000 Imagine, imagine for a second, Japan bombs Hawaii and you have a bunch of members of Congress in 1941 and say, hold on a second, we might have deserved it, okay? 0.99
00:17:34.000 Some people did something.
00:17:37.000 The Japanese needed oil.
00:17:39.000 We shouldn't have done an embargo against them.
00:17:41.000 Do you see how far we have fallen and how much things have changed?
00:17:47.000 I think this is an 80% issue.
00:17:49.000 I think 80% deep down people want America to be self-sufficient.
00:17:49.000 I really do.
00:17:53.000 And I think they want the Chinese Communist Party to suffer for the damage they have done to them.
00:17:58.000 Every story needs a bad guy.
00:18:01.000 Every story needs a villain.
00:18:02.000 And do you notice that we have been telling the Chinese coronavirus story from the CDC, the FDA, and the White House without the true villain, the true culprit?
00:18:10.000 This virus came from China.
00:18:12.000 It was created in their laboratory.
00:18:13.000 They lied about it and whether it was unleashed intentionally or unintentionally, it's irrelevant.
00:18:17.000 It was an attack on America. 0.71
00:18:22.000 Look, we all complain about the woke industrial complex.
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00:21:12.000 With us right now is the author of The Chiefs Chief, a friend of mine, chief of staff to President Donald Trump.
00:21:19.000 They call him former Chief of Staff, but Chief of Staff in my book, Mark Meadows.
00:21:23.000 Mark, how are you doing today?
00:21:25.000 I'm great, Charlie.
00:21:26.000 It's great to be with you.
00:21:28.000 And thank you for always bringing freedom to the American people.
00:21:32.000 It's great to be with you.
00:21:33.000 Of course.
00:21:33.000 And you can come on anytime, Mark.
00:21:35.000 You're a great friend and you do a wonderful job.
00:21:37.000 The book is The Chiefs Chief.
00:21:39.000 Everyone, go check it out.
00:21:40.000 It's terrific.
00:21:40.000 Mark, you made some news this morning.
00:21:43.000 If I'm reading it correctly, I want to hear it in your words because I saw it in some untrusted New York Times thing that you're making a decision not to cooperate with the January 6th committee.
00:21:55.000 Please tell us what's going on.
00:21:57.000 Well, we've been working for weeks, as you know, Charlie, trying to find an accommodation so that I could share and talk to the committee about certain non-privileges.
00:22:07.000 And I want to stress that non-privileged information.
00:22:11.000 I've always told the president and Congress that the executive privilege that President Trump has claimed would be honored.
00:22:22.000 It's not mine to waive.
00:22:23.000 Quite frankly, it's not Congress's to waive either.
00:22:26.000 And so we've been working with them over the last several weeks.
00:22:30.000 It became very apparent over the last couple of days, even after we given them some documents, that not only did they plan to continue to ask about areas that should be covered under executive privilege, but then they sent a subpoena unbeknownst to us, sent a subpoena to a third-party telephone provider seeking documents, all of my documents on my phone.
00:23:00.000 And we just came to a point where we felt like that our spirit of accommodation was not being reciprocated on an equal fashion.
00:23:11.000 And some of the comments that the committee has made about others, whether they're claiming other witnesses or potential witnesses and their claims, it sounds like they've already made up their mind on what the outcome will be.
00:23:25.000 And so reluctantly, our counsel recommended that we don't show up for a voluntary interview this week.
00:23:36.000 Well, and so just our audience might be wondering, what does that mean then, right?
00:23:43.000 Will there be a contempt vote?
00:23:45.000 And then also just talk about, in your opinion, does this have precedent, what this committee is trying to do?
00:23:52.000 Well, I don't think this committee, the precedent that is before us is certainly anything that's being embraced by this committee.
00:24:01.000 When we see it, it appears to be more of a partisan out, you know, outgoing effort from a partisan standpoint.
00:24:12.000 We know that we've had everyone on the committee has voted for Donald Trump to be impeached.
00:24:19.000 And yet somehow they're supposedly going to have an open mind as it involves all these other questions coming in.
00:24:27.000 And so I think, Charlie, the real tough part of that, what does it mean?
00:24:32.000 We'll have to cross that bridge when we come to it.
00:24:35.000 Will they hold me in contempt?
00:24:37.000 There have been members who have suggested that they will do so.
00:24:41.000 I believe that ultimately this is something that the courts will and should have to weigh in on.
00:24:48.000 And certainly when there's a disagreement between parties, the courts have been the proper place to resolve that.
00:24:54.000 So hopefully that will happen here before they take a strong action of contempt.
00:25:01.000 But that's Congress's purview.
00:25:03.000 And honestly, I'm sure having those discussions as we speak.
00:25:10.000 Yeah.
00:25:10.000 And so I suppose the issue that a lot of people are trying to work through is what is the check on a committee potentially that might abuse their power.
00:25:24.000 And that's a question that hasn't always been kind of sorted out in the courts, at least from my understanding.
00:25:31.000 There was a ruling way back in the 60s, if I'm not mistaken, around a veterans group around draft dodging.
00:25:39.000 And the courts basically ruled that Congress can get whatever it wants.
00:25:43.000 What have the courts decided in regards to this?
00:25:46.000 Because in some ways, this is unprecedented.
00:25:50.000 Well, it is unprecedented.
00:25:52.000 And I think, Charlie, probably the biggest thing is that with a chief of staff and somebody that is that close to the president, and honestly,
00:26:02.000 those discussions that a president and his chief of staff would have, whether it's me or any other president with any other chief of staff, it would be a real chilling event to think that every new president can waive the executive privilege that came before them.
00:26:24.000 I don't know that really any chief of staff and a president would want to have candid conversations if they're going to be subject to a very broad, and I would stress a very broad congressional subpoena.
00:26:40.000 The subpoena to the third party carrier that I received over the weekend honestly didn't have really any balance.
00:26:50.000 It was every communication, every provider, every person.
00:26:55.000 And obviously there are conversations that even now I would have with attorneys.
00:27:03.000 And so there are other privileges invoked other than just executive privileges.
00:27:07.000 So I think the scope of where they're going is far broader.
00:27:11.000 The good thing is, I'm not an attorney, but I've hired attorneys to look at this.
00:27:18.000 And hopefully the court will be glad to weigh in on this.
00:27:23.000 Yeah, I hope so.
00:27:24.000 So also, Mark, and again, Mark Meadows has a great new book out.
00:27:28.000 The Chief's Chief, everyone check it out.
00:27:31.000 You've been kind of teasing that Trump might run in 2024.
00:27:36.000 What do you have to share with the audience?
00:27:38.000 You know, I can tell you, I don't speak for the president or his campaign.
00:27:43.000 So, this is not official.
00:27:45.000 But if you read the book in the final chapter, I think you only draw one conclusion that I'm expecting another four years of Donald Trump's amazing accomplishments and that I believe that he's going to run.
00:27:58.000 Certainly, the things that he's doing would suggest that he's putting together not only the team, but he's putting together really the policy initiatives, staying engaged in the debate.
00:28:09.000 I mean, you know it, Charlie.
00:28:11.000 You were just with him over the weekend, staying involved in the debate and basically making sure that America and the American people are top priority.
00:28:21.000 And what a change it would be from Joe Biden and what we've been seeing for the last 10 months.
00:28:27.000 Yeah, no kidding.
00:28:28.000 And so let's talk about the midterms.
00:28:30.000 We talked about this last time you were on, Mark, and I think that might have been before Virginia.
00:28:34.000 I can't remember the timing.
00:28:36.000 What have you seen recently, kind of on the ground grassroots that's giving you hope that this Congress is going to turn over, we could fire Nancy Pelosi and take back the Senate?
00:28:48.000 Listen, I'm getting more and more bullish each day, and it has nothing to do with Kamala Harris's or Joe Biden's sinking poll numbers, although indeed those are welcome barometers of what may have happened.
00:29:02.000 Let me tell you what I'm seeing is a whole lot of buyers' remorse out there from unaffiliated voters and even Democrat voters who voted for Joe Biden, believing that he was going to be able to be a leader.
00:29:18.000 And what they're seeing now on the world stage is not only that he's not a leader here domestically, but he's not a leader internationally as well.
00:29:27.000 You know, when you see what's happening with Russia and China and just the very, very aggressive behavior that we're seeing, that's not the kind of thing that you would have seen with President Trump.
00:29:41.000 Yeah, no kidding.
00:29:42.000 And so what I'm hearing from a lot of people on the front lines is they are optimistic that Republicans can take back control, but they want to really focus on the primary campaigns.
00:29:56.000 Are there any candidates in particular that you and the president are really focused on, especially when it comes to some of these impeachment votes?
00:30:03.000 Could talk about some of the endorsements President Trump has made recently.
00:30:07.000 I want to make sure our audience is aware of that.
00:30:09.000 Yeah, so President Trump is staying unbelievably laser-focused on making sure that we take back both the Senate and the House.
00:30:18.000 And I think that we will take back both.
00:30:22.000 Obviously, the Senate is a much closer call.
00:30:25.000 You've got to encourage, hopefully, Senator Johnson to run again.
00:30:30.000 You've got to look at Nevada.
00:30:33.000 You've got to look at Arizona, Georgia.
00:30:36.000 But I do believe that we can essentially get one seat additional.
00:30:42.000 Here's the thing: if you look at President Trump and those that have voted either for the January 6th Commission or those that have voted for impeachment and more on the impeachment vote than anything else, they've sent a very clear signal that they are not really for the America First Agenda.
00:31:03.000 I know that you've been involved.
00:31:05.000 I know that you, from your standpoint and outreach, have been trying to make sure that we get those MAGA candidates there.
00:31:15.000 But the president, when he was in, whether it's in Washington state or in North Carolina or Florida or any of the others, what he's doing is he's sending a clear message.
00:31:29.000 Not only is he all in personally with his endorsement, but what he is doing is trying to make sure people like you and me are willing to engage and willing to make sure that they have a backbone of steel.
00:31:44.000 And I'm confident, in fact, very, very confident that Speaker Pelosi will have to retire her gavel.
00:31:53.000 That's why you're seeing so many Democrats, senior Democrats.
00:31:57.000 Normally, you get one or two senior Democrats, but you've got people that are leading committees that are actually retiring.
00:32:06.000 And when you see some of the most powerful Democrats here in Washington, D.C. retiring, they see the handwriting on the wall.
00:32:14.000 The American people can't be fooled for too long.
00:32:17.000 And so I think 2022 will be a resounding success, much like Virginia and much like the truck driver from New Jersey.
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00:33:58.000 So Mark, how could Republicans screw this up?
00:34:00.000 It just looks so good.
00:34:03.000 If it goes wrong, basically the other way, the question is, what must we do to make sure this continues?
00:34:09.000 And what must we make sure that does not happen, if that makes sense?
00:34:14.000 It does make perfect sense.
00:34:15.000 Here's what we need to do is two things.
00:34:17.000 We can't screw it up.
00:34:18.000 And by screw it up, here's how we would do that.
00:34:22.000 All of a sudden, think that now because we have polls that are leading our way, that we need to somehow moderate.
00:34:29.000 I can tell you, I saw this in a race with Congressman Dan Bishop in North Carolina.
00:34:35.000 He was in the polls.
00:34:37.000 He was actually behind some.
00:34:39.000 Many of the advisors were saying, distance yourself from Donald Trump.
00:34:43.000 You're in the Charlotte area.
00:34:46.000 And yet that was not who he was.
00:34:48.000 He was actually more of someone who was willing to embrace not only the America First agenda, but all the conservative values that you and I hold dear.
00:34:58.000 And so, you know, I told him, I said, you know, it's better that you lose engaged in embracing something that you like and you believe in than it is to pretend like you're somebody else because people will vote for those that are authentic.
00:35:13.000 That's why Donald Trump got elected to be president of the United States.
00:35:16.000 They wanted somebody who was authentic.
00:35:18.000 And so here's the candidates need to be authentic.
00:35:22.000 They need to be transparent.
00:35:23.000 But the other part of it is they need to have a business plan.
00:35:26.000 They can't just show up and think that a good stump speech is going to work it.
00:35:30.000 They've got to actually work a plan.
00:35:32.000 How are they going to do the outreach?
00:35:34.000 They need to do more podcasts, honestly, where you're talking policy, real policy, like you and I do right here, where they actually engage.
00:35:43.000 How else can we make sure that it happens?
00:35:46.000 Is my good friend Jim Jordan has a book that says, Do what you said you would do.
00:35:50.000 You know, it's a great book, but it's also a great concept.
00:35:55.000 When you campaign, you actually have to actually work in Washington, D.C. that same way.
00:36:01.000 And we're starting not only to see that from so many House members, but we're also seeing that when you do what you said you would do, the American people will reward it.
00:36:12.000 Even some Democrats who don't agree with your policy admire the fact that you're willing to say what you believe and act on.
00:36:19.000 I will also add that we have to make sure Republicans do not broker an amnesty deal this spring.
00:36:28.000 That's in the cards.
00:36:29.000 I'm hearing it.
00:36:30.000 And that would be a disaster. 1.00
00:36:32.000 I mean, it would be the dumbest thing they could possibly do. 0.85
00:36:35.000 And also, I want to end with people are emailing us like crazy right now, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:36:41.000 Mark, what about election integrity?
00:36:42.000 Are we seeing some improvements?
00:36:45.000 What's going on with that?
00:36:46.000 How can we trust that they're not going to do the shenanigans again?
00:36:49.000 Well, we need to still stay engaged.
00:36:51.000 And they're right to be emailing you in a big way.
00:36:54.000 I can tell you that a number of us are working on election integrity.
00:36:57.000 I continue to work on election integrity to make sure that not only does your vote count, but that that ballot is sacred from your hand to the ballot box.
00:37:06.000 And what we've done is, sadly, we've kind of ignored it.
00:37:11.000 We've looked at past elections and some are encouraging just to move on.
00:37:16.000 We need to make sure there's an audit process that's there, not just for the states that we want to call into question, but for every single state.
00:37:25.000 So when somebody votes, that they can make sure that their vote is legitimate and that it counts.
00:37:32.000 And I can tell you there's real progress being made, but we've got a long way to go, Charlie, and the work is not done.
00:37:40.000 So we need to be vigilant leading up to 2022 and 2024 on election integrity.
00:37:45.000 Yeah, and the other side, they were so strategic.
00:37:48.000 I mean, you look at Georgia, and I mean, Brian Kemp deserves the primary challenge he's getting against a really good man who is a former senator.
00:37:56.000 You knew David Perdue.
00:37:57.000 He was a great guy.
00:37:58.000 He's a great guy.
00:37:59.000 Yeah, and he should have been a senator.
00:38:01.000 And honestly, if we would have taken election integrity as seriously as Stacey Abrams took election corruption, Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue would have been senators and Trump would have won Georgia by 60, 70, 80,000 votes.
00:38:15.000 When you go from 240,000 mail-in ballots to 1.2 million mail-in ballots, with no infrastructure and a lower signature verification threshold for a consent decree that was privately signed, that no one knew in March of 2020.
00:38:27.000 Meanwhile, you have ballots going everywhere because of the COVID stuff.
00:38:30.000 It's a tragedy and I'm glad the base is not losing focus on that.
00:38:34.000 That's a really important thing.
00:38:35.000 Mark, we're out of time.
00:38:36.000 Thank you so much for joining us.
00:38:37.000 The Chiefs Chief everyone, go check it out.
00:38:40.000 I enjoy always talking to you, Mark.
00:38:41.000 You're a great American.
00:38:42.000 Thank you, same here.
00:38:43.000 Thanks Charlie, take care, God bless.
00:38:45.000 Talk soon.
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