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00:00:57.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:38.000 Joining us now is a fighter who I have said for quite some time, we need a Jordan Hawley committee the same way that we had a Church and Pike committee in the 70s and 80s where we put the pressure on the FBI.

00:01:50.000 What do you think about that, Congressman Jordan?

00:01:53.000 I think you're right.

00:01:54.000 We got to have pressure put on these folks who are just doing things that we never thought we'd see.

00:02:01.000 So, yeah, I think, and thank you for what you do.

00:02:03.000 And you bring the pressure every day on exposing just what's going on in our government, which is frightening to every American.

00:02:11.000 Think about this, Charlie.

00:02:12.000 In the last six weeks, the Joe Biden, the Democrats have raided the home of a former president, taken the phone of a sitting member of Congress, called half the country fascist and extremist, then to that same half the country.

00:02:22.000 Hey, we're going to make you pay the student loan debt of the, quote, good Americans who vote Democrat.

00:02:27.000 And if you don't like all that, don't ever forget, I signed legislation that's going to unleash 87,000 IRS agents on you, the American taxpayer.

00:02:36.000 That's what we're up against.

00:02:37.000 So yeah, we need to figure out ways to get the truth out for the American people and put conservatives and Republicans in office.

00:02:45.000 Amen.

00:02:46.000 It is mission critical.

00:02:47.000 So Congressman, you've really been leading the charge on the whistleblower front.

00:02:51.000 And there's a new one that shows that a new whistleblower reveals that the FBI is moving agents off of child sexual abuse investigations to instead pursue political investigations.

00:03:03.000 This is unbelievable.

00:03:04.000 Tell us about this.

00:03:06.000 Well, we're so focused on cooking the books and satisfying this narrative that the left has out there that there's an extremist behind every door that we first heard from whistleblowers who think we lost the congressman there for a second.

00:03:20.000 So we're going to get him back.

00:03:22.000 And so we're going to back in a second.

00:03:23.000 You guys can email us freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:03:25.000 Someone just emailed me here.

00:03:26.000 Charlie, love the idea of the Jordan committee.

00:03:30.000 I'll tell you what.

00:03:30.000 This is one of the reasons why we have to take back the House.

00:03:34.000 We have to take back the Senate. 0.99

00:03:35.000 So our superstars are able to be able to be in political power.

00:03:40.000 So right now, for example, we got this letter.

00:03:42.000 Congressman Jordan got this letter out.

00:03:44.000 Whistleblower comes to him.

00:03:46.000 And because of Pelosi, there's no subpoenas.

00:03:49.000 There's no hearings.

00:03:50.000 So all of these revelations, all of these whistleblowers, the moment we're able to take back the House and the Senate, which is just weeks away, everybody, the moment that happens, we'll be able to have a special committee hearings immediately.

00:04:04.000 And so right now, when we're in the minority, and all of you know this, just worthy of repeating, and also to encourage what needs to become a red wave coming into November.

00:04:14.000 If we are in the political minority, if we are not in power, then all these whistleblowers, nothing comes out of it.

00:04:22.000 But I'm telling you, I think there is something so deep and so sinister and so unchecked happening in the federal bureaucracy, the administrative state.

00:04:32.000 And it's going to take some courage, but the courage is only made possible because you could be in the minority with all the courage in the world.

00:04:39.000 And what good does that do?

00:04:41.000 But when you're in the political majority, when you're able to have actual political power, it absolutely changes it.

00:04:47.000 And we got Congressman Jordan right here.

00:04:49.000 Congressman, it seems we got zapped there for a second.

00:04:52.000 You were talking about the whistleblower.

00:04:53.000 Sorry about that.

00:04:54.000 No problem.

00:04:55.000 Yeah.

00:04:56.000 And so the first whistleblower, one of the first ones we got, we talked about the pressure they're under to label all cases as domestic violent extremism, cases when they're not.

00:05:04.000 And that pressure, interestingly enough, came from this guy, Timothy Teebald, who Senator Gressley had a different whistleblower tell him was the guy who was actually behind the whole suppressing evidence about the Hunter Biden story, which I find fascinating in and of itself.

00:05:17.000 And then the most recent whistleblowers have come to us and said they're not only pressuring us to juice the numbers, they're pressuring us to cook the books.

00:05:25.000 And what I mean by that is they are being, all the January 6th people that they're investigating, they're making it appear that those are coming from all over the country.

00:05:34.000 When in fact, there was about one event here.

00:05:36.000 And they're so focused on this narrative that they're willing to, as you pointed out, Charlie, pull agents off of child trafficking cases to focus on this narrative that Joe Biden and the left puts out there that half the country is extremist. 0.90

00:05:49.000 And it's just ridiculous. 0.69

00:05:50.000 And frankly, it's frightening that they're doing this.

00:05:53.000 How many whistleblowers have come forward to you personally or your office from the FBI?

00:05:59.000 We've had over 14.

00:06:01.000 They've come to our office.

00:06:03.000 They come to our lawyers on our judiciary committee, Republican lawyers on our staff.

00:06:08.000 We've met these folks.

00:06:09.000 We talked to them.

00:06:10.000 And we found them all to be very credible.

00:06:12.000 And as I said, brave individuals who are willing to go against.

00:06:15.000 Remember, the day after we first talked about this issue, the number of whistleblowers who have come forward, the very next day, Merritt Garland sends an internal memo out saying, now, here are the rules when you're talking with folks in Congress.

00:06:28.000 It was a way to look obviously like an effort to chill the speech and discourage brave whistleblowers in the FBI from coming forward and telling us what's really going on.

00:06:39.000 So it's unprecedented, this number.

00:06:41.000 And I'm just, that's just what's come to our office.

00:06:44.000 We know there have been several go to Senator Gressley's office and Senator Johnson's office.

00:06:49.000 So this tells you when they're willing to come to us when we're in the minority, this tells you how serious this is.

00:06:55.000 Because in the minority, all we can do is basically what we're doing now, begin to tell their story.

00:07:00.000 We can't really subpoena the people we need to and do the kind of investigation we need to, even though we're trying.

00:07:05.000 That tells you how serious this is.

00:07:07.000 So, I mean, I'm just going to send out a clarion call.

00:07:10.000 If any of you watching right now are working for the FBI or the Department of Justice, you guys can get in line as a whistleblower.

00:07:17.000 Maybe you got in contact with a document.

00:07:18.000 Maybe you heard something.

00:07:20.000 You're going to be well received, Congressman.

00:07:22.000 There are whistleblower protections, aren't there, if someone is afraid to speak out?

00:07:22.000 I'm just curious.

00:07:28.000 Yep, there sure are.

00:07:29.000 By law, there are.

00:07:30.000 And this is something Senator Grassley over his tenure in the United States Senate has worked very hard to make sure those protections are in place for people to come forward.

00:07:39.000 When they know there's wrongdoing going on in a federal agency, they can come forward and talk to Congress because it's the kind of information we need to know.

00:07:47.000 After all, the way our constitutional system works, we fund these agencies.

00:07:51.000 We need to know this stuff.

00:07:52.000 And so, yeah, they do have whistleblower protection if they want to come forward with their story.

00:07:56.000 Yeah, if we win, there could be a huge press conference with all of these whistleblowers.

00:08:00.000 And so, Congressman, if we take back the House, which I believe we will, and it's looking really, really good, can you talk about what we'll then be able to do?

00:08:08.000 What's the next step?

00:08:10.000 Let's say it's January 20th.

00:08:12.000 You have all these, you got sworn in in early January, and now we're cooking.

00:08:16.000 What does that look like now with the whistleblowers?

00:08:18.000 Not just a press release.

00:08:19.000 What are you then able to do?

00:08:21.000 Well, we're able to then, when we talk with these guys, we're able to go to the people that they know are part of this, and we can ask for, not just ask for, we can subpoena and depose these individuals.

00:08:31.000 That will be part of what we have to do.

00:08:33.000 And there's really two big investigations that I think have to happen, particularly in the Judiciary Committee, which hopefully we're going to have control.

00:08:40.000 And Lord William, I'll be able to chair.

00:08:42.000 But those investigations revolve around the political nature of the Justice Department, what we're talking about here, and also the border situation.

00:08:49.000 And those two issues are within our committee's jurisdiction.

00:08:52.000 They're two of the biggest issues our nation faces.

00:08:55.000 That's where we will go.

00:08:56.000 We want to talk to some agents.

00:08:59.000 Who was telling you to do the things on the border?

00:09:02.000 How did that come down from my orchestra?

00:09:04.000 And all kinds of things we have to look at on that issue.

00:09:07.000 And of course, this issue where we know there was, here's a great example, Charlie.

00:09:12.000 We know that the politics go to the school board issue.

00:09:15.000 We know there was coordination between the White House, the DOJ, the Department of Education, and the National School Boards Association prior to the initial letter sent on September 29th from the School Board Association to the Biden White House.

00:09:28.000 We know they were talking.

00:09:30.000 Here's a great question for these people.

00:09:32.000 Did you talk about putting in the reference to using the Patriot Act, using domestic terrorism statutes against moms and dads?

00:09:39.000 Did the White House knew about that?

00:09:41.000 So those are the kinds of things that will happen on day one if, in fact, we get the majority.

00:09:45.000 Congressman Jim Jordan, we're 100% behind you.

00:09:48.000 Everybody, we need a red wave.

00:09:49.000 You give you the red wave.

00:09:50.000 You give Congressman Jim Jordan the power and the platform to restore constitutional sanity to our government.

00:09:58.000 We're 100% behind him.

00:09:59.000 Congressman, thanks so much for joining us as always.

00:10:02.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:10:03.000 Take care.

00:10:03.000 Thank you.

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00:11:12.000 I remember being at our Turning Point USA Summit, our Young Women's Leadership Summit, and I made a prediction that this story was going to take off.

00:11:18.000 And boy, did that prediction not turn out to be true.

00:11:21.000 It is a massive story that deserves repeated attention.

00:11:26.000 And it is a story of cruelty. 0.92

00:11:29.000 It's a story of gender radicalism.

00:11:33.000 It's a story almost of Quasi-attempted starvation of children if you don't agree with a radical, baseless, non-scientific, torturous gender ideology. 0.73

00:11:47.000 We talked about on our show, and I thought it was going to go viral.

00:11:50.000 And honestly, Republicans missed one on this big time over the summer.

00:11:54.000 What am I talking about?

00:11:56.000 Well, the USDA, back in June, remember back in June, they announced that the national school lunch program offered to low-income students will no longer be provided to schools who do not allow men to go into women's bathrooms. 0.57

00:12:15.000 So they were literally not, they were no longer going to offer school lunch assistance if a school said actually only men are allowed in men's bathrooms, boys and boys' bathrooms, girls and girls' bathrooms.

00:12:25.000 And this should have been a bombshell story. 0.99

00:12:27.000 Biden regime withholds school lunch if you do not adopt their radical anti-scientific gender ideology. 1.00

00:12:37.000 Let's just refresh ourselves on the story, play cut 95.

00:12:40.000 Reporting finds the U.S. Department of Agriculture announced the national school lunch program for low-income students would not be available to schools who do not adopt the Biden administration's interpretation of Title IX.

00:12:54.000 Under the new plan, schools that do not allow students who identify as a different gender than their biological sex to use their preferred bathrooms would not qualify for the funding, which in part is used to fund those school lunches.

00:13:07.000 This story totally slipped through the cracks.

00:13:10.000 And any influence all of you have on social media, any that you have through lawmakers, let's get this message out.

00:13:19.000 The fact that the Biden regime is actively withholding school lunch money, how is this ever acceptable?

00:13:26.000 And it's, it's, look, there's a lot of tyranny. 0.93

00:13:28.000 There are a lot of cockroaches out there. 0.98

00:13:30.000 There's a lot of nonsense happening.

00:13:33.000 But the fact the Biden regime is starving children, not totally starving, but they're potentially saying we can't give you lunch assistance for kids.

00:13:42.000 That's a form of starvation.

00:13:45.000 This story is getting broader and broader around, as Tucker Carlson beautifully put it yesterday, the medical mutation of children for profit.

00:13:57.000 I thought that was beautifully put.

00:13:59.000 That there's an entire industry that is centered and makes tons of money off of medically mutilating children.

00:14:11.000 Monetize the mental anguish of children.

00:14:14.000 Boy, is that just beautifully put by Tucker?

00:14:16.000 It monetizes the mental anguish of children.

00:14:22.000 So it was revealed yesterday on Tucker's program, thanks to the work of Matt Walsh.

00:14:28.000 Cut 106, 2018.

00:14:30.000 This is a physician at Vanderbilt, new video, discussing how they perform top surgeries on children because they make Vanderbilt a lot of money.

00:14:41.000 Play Cut 106.

00:14:44.000 Some of our UMC financial folks in August of 20, I'm sorry, October of 2016, starting a couple years ago, put down some costs of how much money we think each patient would bring in.

00:14:55.000 And this is only including top surgery.

00:14:57.000 This isn't including any bottom surgery.

00:15:00.000 And it's a lot of money.

00:15:02.000 These surgeries make a lot of money. 0.80

00:15:04.000 So female to male in chest reconstruction can bring in $40,000.

00:15:10.000 A patient just gotten routine hormone treatment who I'm only seeing a few times a year can bring in several thousand dollars without requiring a lot of visits and labs.

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00:16:19.000 Susan emailed us, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:16:22.000 Charlie, for the person who thinks that schools and colleges aren't horrible and creating crazy woke lib kids, here's my story.

00:16:30.000 I have a daughter that was the most caring and loving child.

00:16:33.000 She even helped work for me at the Republican National Committee when she was nine years old.

00:16:38.000 And now she's gone.

00:16:40.000 It's so sad.

00:16:41.000 She's a Greta Thunberg lover and so woke.

00:16:44.000 I know she is gone. 0.91

00:16:45.000 Anything we try to do to bring her around is met with vehement climate change anger and blame that we have ruined her planet and nothing will be left for her generation. 0.96

00:16:56.000 Also, she thinks all these illegal migrants deserve to be here. 1.00

00:16:59.000 She went to a BLM meeting in our very sweet little bedroom, outside bedroom community outside of Atlanta on Transgender.

00:17:04.000 Don't get me started.

00:17:05.000 The high school had a trans homecoming queen and she was so proud. 0.50

00:17:08.000 And she cried when Roe v. Wade was overturned and announced.

00:17:12.000 We absolutely dropped the ball, and I know we are to blame for this horrible creation.

00:17:16.000 I see that she'll have to learn the hard way.

00:17:19.000 Thank you, Susan.

00:17:22.000 It's really sad.

00:17:24.000 Everyone listening, please take that as a warning.

00:17:27.000 Joining us right now is Russ Vogt from the wonderful Center for Renewing America.

00:17:32.000 He's one of the few fighters out there.

00:17:33.000 It's a great organization.

00:17:34.000 Russ, welcome back to the program.

00:17:36.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:17:36.000 Appreciate it.

00:17:37.000 All right, Russ, let's talk about the FBI.

00:17:40.000 You guys are involved in many different ways of trying to stand up for the good guys.

00:17:44.000 Tell us the latest.

00:17:46.000 Yeah, our belief is that we need to have a permanent standalone committee, or not permanent, but a standalone committee outside the normal committees that provides an institution that actually gets at the bottom of all of the deep state agencies, starting first and foremost with the FBI, which is weaponized against the American people.

00:18:05.000 And it's not just the elements of the Russia hoax.

00:18:07.000 It's, you know, them being weaponized against parents concerned about CRT at school board meetings.

00:18:13.000 And so we're pushing very hard right now for Republicans to make a commitment to stand this up and have people on this committee like Jim Jordan and Dan Bishop and others who will not buckle in the face of a deep state that will be opposed to that kind of oversight.

00:18:27.000 But our hope is that that leads to establishing the full case to the American people.

00:18:31.000 So we have a supermajority out there that can inform the next presidential race.

00:18:36.000 And then that can also help us know specifically what reforms are needed to break up the FBI as we know it.

00:18:43.000 How realistic do you think that is?

00:18:44.000 We take back the House, we take back the Senate.

00:18:46.000 What can we do to actually hold the FBI accountable soon?

00:18:49.000 I think it's very realistic, Charlie, because there's a historical precedent for this committee.

00:18:53.000 The reason we call it a church committee is because we're building off of the precedent of Frank Church's committee that brought the CIA and the FBI for a brief moment to its knees.

00:19:03.000 Now, the reforms that came out of that were not sufficient and/or enduring, but it was a historical precedent that Congress often looks to.

00:19:12.000 And so I think that's very important.

00:19:14.000 And I think it'll be critical that we be able to leverage the appropriations process throughout this to get the oversight and the documents and the information from a stonewalling administration that we know will be coming our way.

00:19:27.000 But I think we've got to take a larger step back from it to make this successful.

00:19:32.000 And we've got to say to these agencies, we are going to fundamentally dismantle you unless you participate and help us get to the bottom of what we know is wrong and weaponized against the public.

00:19:43.000 And if we establish the moral high ground, the leverage that that would give us, we will be able to get the information that's needed to take it to the country.

00:19:52.000 And I think that's really important, but it has to start with oversight and it has to start with real changes, structural changes.

00:19:57.000 Do you think Republicans have the stomach for this?

00:20:00.000 Do you think Republicans really have the wherewithal and the fortitude to go after this fourth branch of government?

00:20:05.000 Because, Russ, the alignment constitutional, you know this better than anybody, but it's been totally inverted.

00:20:09.000 It's not co-equal branches of government.

00:20:11.000 You have a superstructure that oversees all the other four branches, which is the administrative state, the leviathan, this albatross of bureaucracy, which literally calls the shot for Congress, executive, and judicial.

00:20:24.000 We never should have had the FBI created the way it did, which was basically a blackmail operation against any politician or dissident in the country.

00:20:31.000 How do you change that?

00:20:32.000 Because the Constitution is currently upside down.

00:20:36.000 It is.

00:20:36.000 I like to say that we're living in a post-constitutional time and where there's no separation of powers.

00:20:42.000 And people who are kind of simplistically talking about Article 1 returns or Article 2 are not realizing that what the branches, the administrative state that we're talking about, goes over the lines of demarcation of the branches in the Constitution.

00:20:58.000 That's the level of institutional change.

00:21:00.000 But to get to your question specifically, not yet.

00:21:03.000 I do not believe that Republicans have the stomach for what will be required, but I think this is quickly becoming a cartel-busting issue in that their voters know that the FBI is weaponized against them.

00:21:16.000 They know that if they show up at a school board meeting, there is a possibility that they will have to spend $100,000 of dollars on a lawyer, and yet they're going anyway.

00:21:25.000 And I think that will change the Republicans' appetite to take this on.

00:21:30.000 And so we've got to make sure that the church committee has the support and the presence of those who already have backs of steel, but we've got to make sure that the entirety of the Republican Party knows the threat.

00:21:41.000 I still come into contact people, Charlie, and you probably do as well, who don't even know the basic facts of the Russia hoax.

00:21:48.000 I mean, have you guys been paying attention?

00:21:50.000 And so we're still dealing with that with members of Congress, let alone getting to what's going on with January 6th.

00:21:56.000 I mean, just the level of saturation in the information world where people just won't read what is in plain sight.

00:22:04.000 We're fighting that, but I will think we will get there by January.

00:22:08.000 Yeah, it's just, I think some Republicans actually support it, though.

00:22:11.000 I think some Republicans in some bizarre ways actually support it.

00:22:15.000 Can you talk about what you're doing with the woke IRS?

00:22:17.000 I know of several examples of conservatives that are being targeted, that are being totally treated unfairly.

00:22:23.000 We need to go after the IRS and everything we have.

00:22:26.000 Your thoughts?

00:22:27.000 I agree.

00:22:27.000 I think the first thing we've got to do in January is, well, starting right now, we cannot let them pass a continuing resolution that creates a lame duck and then a lame duck coming back after a Congress or after the election to come and pass a full year spending bill that takes away all of our leverage points for when the cavalry comes in January.

00:22:46.000 So that fight is right now, it's ongoing.

00:22:48.000 There's no way the Senate Republicans can give Joe Biden a full year spending bill.

00:22:53.000 Secondly, the first thing order of business in January needs to be to defund that $80 billion that they were given for 87,000 new IRS agents and all of the audits as far as the eye can see that that will promote.

00:23:07.000 So that needs to be critical.

00:23:08.000 And then today we put forward two complaints to the IRS asking them to go and investigate what went on in the last election where Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan spent $400 million over to go to three institutions, nonprofit C3 institutions that are supposed to not engage in partisan intervention in the election, and yet they were privatizing the election process to Democratic Party operatives, the same people that were trying to win the election.

00:23:38.000 So this is something that we believe needs to be investigated.

00:23:41.000 Those entities should lose their C3 tax deductible status.

00:23:45.000 Zuckerberg and Chan should lose their tax deduction for it.

00:23:49.000 And this is something that if the IRS wants to get their credibility back, we will see an investigation on this in response to our complaint.

00:23:58.000 If not, it will add to our evidence in the case that they need to be broken up as well.

00:24:03.000 And we will, in the future, have a conservative administration that picks up these complaints anew and investigates.

00:24:09.000 Yeah, it's the Center for Technology for Civic Life $400 million grant from the Zuckerberg family.

00:24:14.000 Also, there's that Good Info Foundation, which is in total violation of their 501c3 status that came out a couple of days ago, $65 million budget paying people online to go after MAGA Republicans and Trump Republicans to have midterm impact.

00:24:29.000 Can you believe this, Russ?

00:24:30.000 I mean, you run a C3, I run a C3.

00:24:32.000 And what planet would we ever be able to pay people for a midterm election going after Republican or MAGA?

00:24:40.000 Russ, can you educate our audience on how big of a violation that is?

00:24:44.000 It's a death sentence.

00:24:45.000 You lose your C3 status if you engage in partisan electioneering activity, and that is a death sentence for your C3.

00:24:52.000 It's not allowed.

00:24:53.000 And that's something that the left is hiding behind the fact that no one's ever called him on it.

00:24:59.000 And we are here to say if this is legal, then nothing is illegal in this space because he weighed in.

00:25:05.000 Forget what he did with the big tech platforms that he was in control of.

00:25:09.000 Forget that for a second.

00:25:10.000 He weighed in to the tune of a half a billion dollars, he and his wife, to rig the election at the very locus of where you do the voting.

00:25:19.000 I mean, it's just insane.

00:25:20.000 It's insane that no one has come before us and said this is a huge problem that needs to be investigated.

00:25:27.000 People like Molly Hemingway have raised the awareness on it, but no one has said the IRS needs to take action.

00:25:34.000 And I think that's the important leverage point for them to be able to get their credibility back.

00:25:39.000 And I think that we will continue to say, use this as a scorecard of sorts with the IRS to see whether they are making progress or whether they are still the same old IRS that we've been dealing with since 2010.

00:25:51.000 Yeah, I'm afraid it's worse than ever.

00:25:53.000 And I've heard report after report of people coming up to me.

00:25:56.000 And I'm going to encourage a lot of these lawmakers, you better do something about this.

00:26:01.000 It's one of the scariest things.

00:26:02.000 87,000 new IRS agents.

00:26:05.000 Just for example, I want to play this piece of tape here.

00:26:07.000 This is a young lawyer, Preston Moore, making a, he's a whistleblower who got an email from a 501c3 funded by George Soros, Reid Hoffman, and Lorene Powell Jobs saying, I was offered $400 to make an anti-Trump video.

00:26:19.000 This is funded directly from the Good Info Foundation with tax deductions.

00:26:23.000 The left, they violate these all day long.

00:26:25.000 All day long, they're violating 501c3 laws.

00:26:28.000 Let's play cut five.

00:26:29.000 I was just offered $400 to make an anti-Donald Trump propaganda post related to the January 6th investigation.

00:26:37.000 That is completely not true.

00:26:38.000 I should start out this video by saying I'm not a Donald Trump supporter, so that should give a little bit of context to where I'm coming from.

00:26:44.000 I'm an attorney.

00:26:45.000 I post legal news and analysis on related topics.

00:26:48.000 Okay, here we go with the story.

00:26:49.000 So first thing first, I get an email from somebody but the Good Info Foundation.

00:26:53.000 We'll talk about them a little more in a minute.

00:26:55.000 I'm going to refer to this person as Jane.

00:26:56.000 Jane sent me a message letting me know she represented the Good Info Foundation and that she was willing to offer a paid collaboration to discuss some topics related to January 6th.

00:27:04.000 I said, sure, why not?

00:27:05.000 I'll learn some more.

00:27:06.000 Jane says the Good Info Foundation will give me $400 to make a post on my page and then share it to Instagram.

00:27:12.000 And then it's a minute-long clip, cut six, he talks about what they wanted him to say, play cut six.

00:27:17.000 These are the specific requirements in order to obtain that $400 of how I should refer the January 6th capital rate.

00:27:24.000 Number one, I must call this a criminal conspiracy.

00:27:26.000 Number two, I must say Trump Republicans were responsible.

00:27:30.000 Number three, I must frame it as an attack on my country, an attack on America or Americans, a criminal conspiracy and a committed crime.

00:27:40.000 I must attribute the matter to MAGA Republicans.

00:27:43.000 I must make clear that this was ongoing and unresolved.

00:27:47.000 And most importantly, that I must channel all of this unto the manipulation of voter agencies so that I could turn their anger around this event into defiance that would make people more likely to vote in midterms.

00:28:00.000 And the thing that struck me the most was this part where I was told to talk about the aspects of the Trump campaign's plan.

00:28:06.000 And I was supposed to say that the Trump campaign paid literally millions of dollars to make January 6th happen.

00:28:14.000 Yeah, I mean, this is the kind of thing we're up against.

00:28:16.000 They flagrantly violate the rules.

00:28:19.000 We comply with the rules and they steal elections.

00:28:22.000 And at some point to get their credibility back, they need to investigate their own side.

00:28:27.000 I hope so.

00:28:30.000 Russ, looks like Trump is going to run again.

00:28:32.000 If he runs, I believe he will win.

00:28:35.000 And this idea of Schedule F is in the clouds and it drives journalists bananas.

00:28:40.000 What is Schedule F and why should we use it?

00:28:44.000 Schedule F is an authority that we discovered and developed at the end of the Trump administration to give the president the ability to reclassify career civil servants who normally have permanency within the bureaucracy to turn them into essentially at-will employees.

00:29:01.000 And it's something that he signed an executive order to do.

00:29:05.000 I classified 90% of the Office of Management Budget as Schedule F employees.

00:29:11.000 It lit off great, great protest within my agency, but it was critical because you would get a sense from them.

00:29:19.000 Even in mine, we're pretty good.

00:29:22.000 They would say, well, we work for the office of the presidency.

00:29:24.000 We don't work for the president who was duly elected.

00:29:26.000 And there you get the sense of the cultural problems and the roots of the problem that cause you not to be able to implement your agenda.

00:29:34.000 And so this needs to be a day one initiative.

00:29:36.000 You know, the president's very supportive of it.

00:29:39.000 He's already done it once before.

00:29:41.000 If he's given that opportunity, I hope he is.

00:29:44.000 This would be one of those first things that I can imagine that he would do.

00:29:47.000 So Russ, I want to thank you for discovering that.

00:29:50.000 But I'll be very honest.

00:29:51.000 I'm sure our audience is, why didn't we have this on day one?

00:29:56.000 Yeah, I mean, that's the kind of work that never really got done.

00:29:59.000 And when we took office, there were those of us who were trying to figure this stuff out while we were doing the jobs that had a lot of different responsibilities.

00:30:09.000 And so my hope is that we don't have to do that again because we're laying the groundwork now to be able to have whoever goes in there on day one has the tools and the plans and the paradigms.

00:30:21.000 A lot of these are thinking about things anew and not on 200 years of bad precedent and bad statesmanship.

00:30:28.000 We want to make sure that the people who go in can hit the ground running from day one.

00:30:33.000 And that, you know, there's a lot of reasons for why that didn't happen.

00:30:36.000 the reliance on more party officials, the staffing of the agencies with people that didn't ever want to buy into America First cultural changes, agenda setting issues.

00:30:47.000 And so like that, there's a lot of reasons for why that didn't happen.

00:30:51.000 We want to make sure that can never happen again and make sure that from day one, we can ensure that the agenda is being done.

00:30:59.000 That's exactly right.

00:31:00.000 That's what we need.

00:31:02.000 And so can you just give our audience a little bit of a read in the couple minutes we have remaining on how ideological some of these agency employees are and what percentage are ideological versus just they just want to paycheck and they say whatever.

00:31:15.000 Can you give us an idea of the makeup of a federal agency?

00:31:19.000 Yeah, I would say that within my agency, we had, you know, 80% of it was left-leaning.

00:31:30.000 Many of them were people who cared about budgets and cared about cost-benefit analysis and regs, but their paradigms were all rooted in this permanent class, ruling class that defines the milieu of Washington, D.C.

00:31:42.000 And you can reason and work with that crowd, but there is about a 10% of activists that are animated by the wokeism, the anti-racist movement to be able to come into these agencies.

00:31:56.000 And they're just activists.

00:31:58.000 Are they growing, Russ?

00:31:58.000 Sorry to cut you off.

00:31:59.000 We're low on time, but are they growing?

00:32:00.000 Are they multiplying in number, the wokeys? 1.00

00:32:04.000 Yes, they are.

00:32:04.000 I mean, they are increasingly prevalent.

00:32:08.000 And so you don't have as many of the folks that have been there for a long period of time that, you know, probably worked under Bill Clinton or George Bush.

00:32:17.000 These are folks that were really came and radicalized by the politics of Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

00:32:23.000 And really quick, the colleges are sourcing a lot of this, right?

00:32:28.000 The wokest part of America then becomes a feeding agency for all these different agencies. 0.89

00:32:33.000 Is that right?

00:32:34.000 Pipeline.

00:32:35.000 Now, real quickly, I had my HR department person say, Russ, we're just committed anti-racists.

00:32:41.000 Yeah.

00:32:41.000 And where do you think they learned that?

00:32:43.000 They learned that.

00:32:44.000 Ibram Kendi.

00:32:45.000 That's right, Ibram X. Kendi.

00:32:46.000 And they probably learned it at Rutgers.

00:32:48.000 They learned it at University of Maryland or Ohio State, wherever they went.

00:32:52.000 And that's been a theme we've been hitting the last couple hours.

00:32:54.000 Obviously, it's an issue close to my heart.

00:32:56.000 So that's so interesting.

00:32:57.000 I want everyone to understand that.

00:32:58.000 What agency was that again, Russ?

00:33:00.000 This is OMB.

00:33:01.000 This is one that's the more conservative of the organization.

00:33:03.000 So it's one of the more conservative organizations with incredible power over the federal government, Office of Management and Budget.

00:33:10.000 And there within the federal government is an HR director who says, I'm a committed anti-racist.

00:33:15.000 That is a sleeper cell of a woke communist ideology who's just right there within our federal government.

00:33:22.000 Sourced from the colleges.

00:33:23.000 I hope everyone understands that.

00:33:24.000 You're going to have to figure out how to solve that.

00:33:26.000 I don't know.

00:33:27.000 But ideological purity tests are an interesting approach. 0.87

00:33:30.000 But let's break up the federal government first and then we'll go from there. 0.95

00:33:34.000 Move it to Kansas.

00:33:34.000 Russ, thank you so much.

00:33:35.000 Great work.

00:33:36.000 You bet.

00:33:40.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:41.000 Email me your thoughts.

00:33:42.000 It's always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:44.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:33:45.000 God bless.

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