00:00:47.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:55.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:32.000By Monday night, I was out of it, running fevers, disoriented, trembling.
00:02:36.000Wife rushed me to the ER, and they literally had to carve this bacteria out of my left upper torso.
00:02:44.000And if I'd not listened to her and gone to the ER, if this had gone on another 12 hours, you and I might be having a much different conversation right now.
00:02:52.000Or I might, you know, still be coming out of surgery and recovering and not able to talk to you.
00:03:03.000Why would the enemy be so bothered about your movie?
00:03:07.000If we had made a cheesy film, I think if we had failed in our mission to show that Christians can make sophisticated, gritty material that doesn't have to violate our values and honors our worldview, but relates to the level of storytelling that the average American is used to right now.
00:03:27.000I think if we had failed in threading that very difficult needle, I think we'd all be doing great.
00:03:34.000Our creative team, starting with Carrie Solomon and Chuck Concelman, who wrote God's Not Dead and then wrote and directed Unplanned, they wrote and directed this film, inspired by my book, A Nefarious Plot.
00:04:34.000I think we managed to do it and truly expose the enemy for who he is and not in a way that makes him humorous or anti-hero or appealing, but exposes him for the nihilist and the liar that he is.
00:04:46.000And I think, you know, that's why it's been so hard for us to get screens.
00:04:49.000That's why it's been hard on us physically.
00:04:52.000Our two directors both got COVID pneumonia during Delta variant.
00:04:55.000We had to shut down filming for several months.
00:05:38.000And, but what this, this film, you almost feel as if you're watching maybe Ozark or you're watching something with obviously using red cameras, you know, filmed 20, 30, 40, 50 times, really good writing, and with obviously a redemptive moral arc.
00:06:02.000So when you're trying to adapt a book, you know, my book, A Nefarious Plot, I wrote it as a sequel homage to the screw tape letters.
00:06:09.000And so, you know, this in screw tape letters, Lewis talks about, as your audience knows, because you guys just discussed it, taking down of us as individuals, deceiving us as people.
00:06:18.000And in a farious plot, the demon nefarious writes about how he took down an entire country called the United States.
00:06:25.000And so like a screw tape letters, the book's a 200-page polemic of a demon ranting at you.
00:06:31.000Hard to turn that into a movie, right?
00:06:33.000You can't just have a demon looking into the camera and dunking on you for an hour and a half.
00:06:45.000And by the time we get to the end of the movie, you'll know.
00:06:48.000And the MacGuffin for this is there is a cultic serial killer on death row named Edward Wayne Brady because there's a law, I think, that all great serial killers need to have three names.
00:06:57.000And so Edward Wayne Brady is on death row in Oklahoma.
00:07:02.000And on the day of his execution, he has tried one more emergency stay on the grounds that he is demonically possessed and therefore unfit to commit these crimes.
00:07:11.000The court is mandated by law to do a psychiatric eval.
00:07:15.000They appoint an atheist psychiatrist because unless you hire Jordan Peterson, there's like no other kind.
00:07:20.000And so he comes in, convinced this is all a scam and they're going to check the box and execute this guy tonight and move on.
00:07:28.000And he gets a lot more than he bargained for during his intimate individual encounter with this demon that causes him to reevaluate his entire worldview, find out that he's not as smart as he thought he was.
00:08:12.000We get them in the theater, and I promise you, this film is going to say to them in about 94 minutes everything you've ever wanted to say to them about, do you understand the stuff you're advocating?
00:08:23.000how crazy it is, where it's truly from, the line you want us to cross as a society.
00:08:27.000And we won't come back from it if you do.
00:08:29.000This is almost like the theatrical version of Scared Straight.
00:08:34.000We filmed it at an actual prison, a live prison, Granite State prison in Oklahoma, where the first movie to ever film in a live prison in the state.
00:08:42.000And so this film will show them without any F-bombs, no nudity, not a drop of blood in the film, nothing that deserves its R rating.
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00:12:59.000You have your head so twisted around you think you're the killer, not him, and give me something to make him believe you prove to me you're a demon.
00:14:46.000The other half though, is entertained, wants to see where the story goes, what happens to the characters.
00:14:51.000You know, Jesus said the children of men are more shrewd than the children of light, so we're gonna learn from them.
00:14:55.000Here we're flipping the script, we turn the tables.
00:14:58.000We now made a film that looks and sounds compelling to them to draw them in, but it's really uh, it's really uh, an advertisement for Our worldview.
00:15:08.000It just does it in more subtle ways than I think Christians have done in the past, which is why we have not always been successful at doing films.
00:15:15.000So, Steve, let me ask you, two minutes remaining, which is a bigger threat to America or the equal threats, people that worship the devil or people who do not believe the devil exists.
00:15:48.000As Augustine said, many, there are many sheep without, many wolves within.
00:15:52.000And, you know, that's the biggest issue we have right now, the comfort and cowardice within the Western population right now that won't either recognize or stand up and oppose the honestly and open demonic.
00:16:08.000If you can get people to acknowledge that there is a devil, then there might be an inverse, a God, a creator.
00:16:18.000Is that one of the things you're attempting to do with this film?
00:16:22.000They've heard from all the Hawaiian shirted guys, Charlie.
00:16:24.000They've heard from all the sweater-vested guys, everybody in khaki pants, the nice guys with their giant auditoriums and their slamming praise teams.
00:16:33.000For the last 30-plus years, they've just rejected all that and turned away from it.
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00:18:20.000How can people learn more about the film and support it?
00:18:24.000And is it going to be in theaters, Steve?
00:18:26.000We're going to be in about a thousand theaters to open this weekend, despite the fact there are six movies opening this weekend on top of all the other films that are out there.
00:18:36.000But the theaters have seen so much activity, demand for the movie, so many pre-sale tickets sold that we're still going to be in close to a thousand theaters.
00:18:45.000You can find out which theater near you and get tickets at nefarious tickets.com.
00:20:03.000And we don't recognize it in Christianity anymore because we don't really respect God's authority, let alone ecclesiastical or scriptural authority.
00:20:11.000We're kind of just, you know, reducing God down to a buddy and what makes us feel good.
00:20:16.000So we don't really recognize this sort of commitment, conviction, and zeal any longer in our Pleasant Valley Sunday experience.
00:20:40.000And the money they've lost, the billions they've lost, those are sacrifices that you make, whether it's in the Valley of Ben Hidden to Molech or whether it's to the spirit of the age of woke corporatism.
00:20:52.000But you do this to show that you are one of the special.
00:23:17.000Number two, it's interesting you say that, Steve.
00:23:19.000There was, I was struck once by a private conversation recently, the last six months, of a Christian parent that came up and they said, Charlie, there is an issue, but I'm actually really relieved.
00:23:28.000You know, my, I happened to stumble upon my 19-year-old watching pornography, but at least it wasn't gay pornography.
00:23:45.000This is where we go beyond the base sin in its natural form is a warp is a warping of the desires that God puts instilled in us, right?
00:23:55.000Separated from his will, the desire for the other sex, the desire for sexual pleasure, the desire to perpetuate the species.
00:24:02.000Separated from his will, we use that to sin.
00:24:06.000The desire for achievement, the desire for significance, the desire to provide and protect for my family, separated from him and his will, that can become green and materialism, right?
00:24:17.000Those are basic manifestations of human sin.
00:24:21.000What I'm talking about now is when you take the next step now, and you are embracing a whole different ethical system, a whole different morality, because you are worshiping a different God, a different value system, meaning that you're not in conflict with God's will any longer.
00:25:37.000And so, what today's progressives really are, they're regressives.
00:25:41.000Their desire really is to take us not forward in time, but back in time to a pre-biblical, pre-Pentateuch, pre-canon, pre-Judeo-Christian understanding of the world, before God raises Moses up to call a nation to himself apart from the rest of the world, before God sends his son for a new covenant now to bring all the nations to him, separate from the rest of the world.
00:26:06.000What was the world like it was like this?
00:26:10.000The world and the 10 plagues, each one of them was a middle finger to a fake repudiation of the Egyptian religions.
00:26:18.000Yeah, there was a fake God, the fake God of Ra, the sun god, you know, the fake worshiping of the Nile when the Nile turned blood red.
00:26:28.000And so, so, Steve, this is a fascinating conversation I don't think most Christians grasp.
00:26:33.000Some will say that we're in a spiritual war, but do they not quite recognize that it's the return of the old gods?
00:26:39.000Now, let me be very clear: we mean small G, not big G God.
00:26:42.000I was watching the Daily Wire with Jordan Peterson and Dennis Prager, and they spent they wasted 10 minutes, in my opinion, debating whether or not we think they're gods.
00:26:50.000We don't think they're gods, we think that they are not omniscient, they're not omnipresent, they did not create the world, but we think people treat them as gods.
00:27:53.000He just re-racks the same songs over and over again.
00:27:56.000One of the things that I point out in a nefarious plot is that all the things that was done to America is what they've done to other civilizations.
00:28:03.000They just had to do it differently to America because America was structured different than other civilizations.
00:28:09.000Instead of a government that declared it was God or had the right to rule you from God, America said our rights come from God and therefore government has to honor that same God.
00:28:18.000So they had to structure how they deceive and tempt differently, but it was all the same monikers they have used in the past because all these are things that appeal to our own vanity, to our own desires, to our own sins.
00:28:32.000James says you're not tempted by anything except that which you actually want.
00:28:54.000Because here's the thing that Nefarious reveals in both the movie and in the book.
00:28:59.000Hell's desire, Satan's desire to say, I am like God.
00:29:05.000I will be like the most high is rivaled only by our own.
00:29:11.000That's really the great contest between us and the enemy is in our sinful state, who is the most vain.
00:29:18.000And when people say, well, you know, I get to pick and choose which part of a religion I want to worship and which part I don't, which part I want to obey and which part I don't, which part of the Bible I think is still true and which part is not.
00:29:30.000You are anointing yourself into Godhood.
00:31:11.000And so when we get into unreality, the undoing, I mean, as much of an atheist as Ayn Rand was, she created her own philosophy called objectivism because she recognized something has to be objectively true.
00:33:08.000No, Anne Petunia is not going to hijack next Thanksgiving with the latest lower third from MSNBC that she largely doesn't even can't even pronounce.