The Charlie Kirk Show - A Much-Needed Message of Hope

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00:00:01.000 A conversation with my dear friend Elijah Stacey, who's a great American who has a great charity, Fighting the Disease Duchesne.

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00:01:02.000 Hey, everybody.

00:01:03.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show with a friend of mine, Elijah Stacey.

00:01:07.000 I met Elijah at Jack Kibbs Church, Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills, and I was so moved by his story and the nonprofit you've started and the group you're doing.

00:01:17.000 It's so inspiring.

00:01:18.000 Elijah, thanks for coming out to Phoenix.

00:01:20.000 Thank you for having me.

00:01:21.000 So introduce yourself.

00:01:22.000 Just tell us kind of what you're working on.

00:01:25.000 You have a great group called Destroy.

00:01:26.000 I always mispronounce it, Duchesne?

00:01:28.000 Deshen, Duchenne.

00:01:29.000 Yeah, people say either or, so we're good either way.

00:01:32.000 So tell us about that.

00:01:33.000 Yeah, so I'm Elijah.

00:01:35.000 I'm 19 years old and I started a nonprofit organization at 15 called Destroy Duchin, which aims at advancing gene editing and gene therapy technologies into human practice. 0.95

00:01:46.000 So that's really the goal, right?

00:01:47.000 We want to complete the cure. 1.00

00:01:49.000 That's the official slogan of Destroy Deshin. 0.97

00:01:52.000 So I spend a lot of my time doing that and creating awareness and stuff. 0.99

00:01:56.000 And that's the disease that I have in my little brother as well.

00:01:59.000 And my other little brother, Max, who he had the disease as well, but he passed away from it.

00:02:04.000 So that's what I spend a lot of my time on.

00:02:06.000 And then, you know, currently I'm also working on other things too, such as my book that's going to be published.

00:02:13.000 And then I also run a Bible study in my backyard every Monday.

00:02:17.000 You're a busy guy.

00:02:18.000 Yeah.

00:02:18.000 So let's talk about the disease.

00:02:21.000 Yes.

00:02:22.000 What is it?

00:02:23.000 It's a peculiar disease, right?

00:02:26.000 And it's not, it's rare, but it's still, you know, it's obviously genetic.

00:02:32.000 Yeah.

00:02:33.000 So Duchenne muscular dystrophy, right?

00:02:35.000 It's a muscle-wasting disease.

00:02:37.000 And people start to take notice of it when they're about five years old.

00:02:40.000 So they start falling on the floor frequently.

00:02:42.000 They can't keep up with their peers at recess, can't go up the stairs.

00:02:47.000 These are really the common signs.

00:02:49.000 And so that's what really starts to take notice.

00:02:52.000 But then when they're about 11 years old, at least for me, right?

00:02:55.000 When I was 11 years old, they become completely dependent on a wheelchair, right?

00:02:58.000 So they will have to use a power wheelchair, such as the one that I'm in right now.

00:03:02.000 And then in their teenage years, they'll start to lose mobility in their arms as well.

00:03:06.000 So, you know, currently I can't lift my arms above my chest.

00:03:09.000 I once, you know, threw the football run with my dad, who was a head football coach.

00:03:13.000 I love playing basketball at recess, right, in my wheelchair, right?

00:03:17.000 But, you know, I lost that ability.

00:03:19.000 And then the worst part about the disease is most patients pass away by the time they're 25, right?

00:03:24.000 Because the heart and lungs are muscles too.

00:03:27.000 So it's a fatal disease.

00:03:28.000 So very, very serious, very terrible disease.

00:03:32.000 Not super well known, but I'm hoping to change that.

00:03:34.000 Well, and you have a great attitude on life.

00:03:37.000 You know that you have this terrible disease, but you have a great, you know, approach to things and you want to come up with a solution and try to tell people about it.

00:03:48.000 So tell us about more about you.

00:03:50.000 So you're, you know, you have this, you have this disease.

00:03:54.000 You have more, I think, just like spirit and positivity than most people I meet because everyone's always complaining all the time.

00:03:59.000 Yeah.

00:04:01.000 And so just tell us what gives you the conviction to fight.

00:04:05.000 What matters to you?

00:04:06.000 Yeah.

00:04:07.000 See, a lot of people ask me this question.

00:04:08.000 I never know how to answer because there's so many things that I care about and so many reasons why I think I am the way I am.

00:04:14.000 But a lot of people with this disease, what I find, because I run a podcast where I interview them, what I find is that they all have the similar attitude, right?

00:04:24.000 And I just think that there's no benefit to being negative, right?

00:04:28.000 It doesn't do you any good.

00:04:29.000 Being positive helps you overcome the hardships of life. 0.96

00:04:32.000 So being negative, you know, it still doesn't change the fact that you're in a wheelchair, that you can't use your arms or that you have this terrible disease.

00:04:38.000 So it's better just to be positive and it helps you kind of adapt and just keep things going, right?

00:04:44.000 But I think, you know, really what I'm passionate about, I would say this, right?

00:04:48.000 I would say that my life cause, I would sum it up as this, which is to minimize human suffering and advance human prosperity so that humanity can have a better quality of life.

00:04:57.000 So any types of human suffering that I can minimize, that's what I'm all about.

00:05:01.000 And so curing my disease or helping people with anxiety, depression, or whatever type of challenge they may face in their life, that's what I want to do.

00:05:10.000 So there are advancements being made with this research.

00:05:14.000 Can you talk about that with this disease?

00:05:16.000 Yeah, so I think it's really fascinating stuff.

00:05:19.000 And these are really the two things that we focus on as an organization, which is gene editing and gene therapy.

00:05:25.000 So gene editing, I'm talking about things such as CRISPR, right?

00:05:29.000 And in short, basically what this allows us to do is to edit your DNA, right?

00:05:33.000 So if there's an error there, which is what genetic diseases are for the most part, they can go in and then cut that error out and then replace it with the correct DNA, the correct instructions, correct blueprints.

00:05:46.000 And so that's really, really promising.

00:05:47.000 There's a lot being done there.

00:05:49.000 And Destroy Duchenne actually just helped advance some science there.

00:05:53.000 We made a contribution there.

00:05:55.000 And then there's also gene therapy, which instead of editing the blueprint, the spelling error, you can just insert the gene itself.

00:06:03.000 And that gives the blueprint there.

00:06:06.000 The best way I can explain this is if you have a book and you have a page and there's a spelling error on the page, it's not going to make sense.

00:06:14.000 But instead of correcting the error on that page, that would be gene editing.

00:06:18.000 You could just insert a whole other page, the same page, but this one doesn't have that error in it.

00:06:22.000 So you can read it correctly.

00:06:23.000 Yes.

00:06:25.000 The problem with both of these is we need vectors, right?

00:06:27.000 A delivery vehicle to deliver this genetic information.

00:06:30.000 And that's really the challenge.

00:06:32.000 And that's really what I'm focused on is advancing the vectors too.

00:06:37.000 So you mean vectors by how to actually get the human body, yeah.

00:06:41.000 Got it.

00:06:41.000 And that science is moving very quickly.

00:06:43.000 Very quickly, yeah.

00:06:44.000 It's all very new stuff, but it's happening really, really quickly.

00:06:47.000 And there's a lot of money being poured into it.

00:06:50.000 And I think that nonprofits playing a role in it.

00:06:54.000 It's really cool, not just for people with Duchin, but all these genetic diseases.

00:06:57.000 And so I'm really excited about that.

00:06:59.000 So is it a recessive gene?

00:07:01.000 Is that right?

00:07:02.000 Yes, yes.

00:07:03.000 And so your siblings have it, your brothers?

00:07:05.000 Yes.

00:07:06.000 So my older brother, he's a paramedic.

00:07:09.000 He's in the Army Reserves.

00:07:12.000 Completely fine, right?

00:07:13.000 Doesn't have it.

00:07:14.000 But I have it.

00:07:16.000 My little brother Max had it when he was here.

00:07:19.000 And then my little brother Kai, he also has it as well.

00:07:22.000 And so, yeah, it's X-linked.

00:07:24.000 The mother carries it, and then she passes it down.

00:07:28.000 And that's what has it.

00:07:29.000 That's how it happens.

00:07:30.000 So since you've been 11, you've seen advancements as far as how treatment and awareness around it?

00:07:38.000 You know, that's interesting.

00:07:39.000 So when I was 11, right, for the longest time, I really didn't want anything to do with this disease or organizations.

00:07:46.000 I kind of just like, you know, I'm not defined by this disease.

00:07:49.000 I don't want to put my identity in that.

00:07:51.000 You know, I'm just, I love sports.

00:07:53.000 I love following my dad on the football field, stuff like that.

00:07:55.000 So I really didn't pay too much attention.

00:07:58.000 And my parents, I wouldn't say that they paid a great deal of attention either.

00:08:02.000 They're more just like, hey, let's make the best out of life.

00:08:05.000 But since I was 15 and started Destroy Deshin, oh, definitely, like, you just see it every year. 0.63

00:08:10.000 There's something new.

00:08:11.000 So new advancements and new breakthroughs.

00:08:14.000 So you and I were talking off camera about this, and your faith is very important to you.

00:08:20.000 And a growing movement on a certain kind of, let's just say, I don't want to overly politicize this, but on the left is trying to say that if there is a genetic malfunction found in, let's say, a pre-born child, that you should have the right to abort that child.

00:08:39.000 What is your stance on that?

00:08:41.000 Absolutely not.

00:08:43.000 There's no moral justification, no grounds to do that.

00:08:47.000 I think it's really wrong.

00:08:48.000 And really, not so much that.

00:08:51.000 I think you're underestimating what someone with a genetic disease can really do, right?

00:08:56.000 I mean, I think that because I have the suffering that I've gone through, I'm still able to have a really good life, but I'm able to use that suffering to help other people with their suffering.

00:09:05.000 Perhaps it's not being able to walk or not being able to use your arms, but it's able to relate to them and help them overcome their challenges of life.

00:09:15.000 Like, I understand adversity because I live it every single day, you know?

00:09:19.000 So I don't think that, yeah, I think that's incredibly wrong.

00:09:24.000 And there's other problems that I have with that as well, philosophically.

00:09:28.000 Sure.

00:09:29.000 You can go into that if you want.

00:09:30.000 Well, I just think that, you know, as you said, the left and really, really anyone.

00:09:35.000 Pro-abortion people.

00:09:36.000 Just anyone for that matter.

00:09:37.000 If you make a moral claim, right, I'm fascinated with the moral argument for God's existence.

00:09:43.000 And really, if you think about morality, it's like, well, how do you justify it, right?

00:09:47.000 If you say that this thing is right or wrong and you think it's true for everyone, objectively true, why is it objectively true?

00:09:54.000 Or you'd have to ground it into something that is higher than us, right?

00:09:58.000 And that has been done by God's existence.

00:10:01.000 People are normally trying to ground it there.

00:10:03.000 If you take a naturalist view, I don't believe that you can do it, right?

00:10:06.000 You won't.

00:10:07.000 It'll just be a subjective moral claim.

00:10:10.000 I agree with you.

00:10:11.000 And so just so that we're specific, there is a growing movement of people that believe that if they find any form of genetic defect, that should be a reason for immediate abortion.

00:10:28.000 Basically implying that your life is just like a...

00:10:32.000 A burden.

00:10:33.000 A burden.

00:10:33.000 Can you help unpack that?

00:10:35.000 Like, do you feel like your life has been, like, can you talk to someone who would have otherwise been eliminated?

00:10:42.000 Yeah.

00:10:43.000 I think that, well, as you said earlier, and my faith is really important.

00:10:51.000 I think that every single person has moral worth, right?

00:10:55.000 Every life has value.

00:10:56.000 And so I think that no matter your circumstances, regardless if you believe in God or not, no matter your circumstances, I think that there's a lot that you can do to help the world in a positive way.

00:11:08.000 And you're not a burden necessarily because you may have this disease or you may need special help in certain ways because you're still able to provide things in other ways.

00:11:17.000 And so no one's a burden or they shouldn't be eliminated because they have a genetic disease, right?

00:11:25.000 And it's a growing claim on the left there.

00:11:29.000 So talk about your faith.

00:11:33.000 There's a lot of people that are saying that God isn't real or it doesn't matter.

00:11:38.000 It's obviously a central point part in your life.

00:11:40.000 I never want to hear anyone complain about their life anymore because when I meet people like you, there's a different set of cards.

00:11:47.000 You didn't ask for this, right?

00:11:50.000 You didn't make a bad choice that all of a sudden you got this, right?

00:11:52.000 This is the ultimate, you know, God had a different plan for you.

00:11:56.000 Can you talk about how you're able to dig, not even dig deep, but just like maximize every single day and what that looks like for you?

00:12:07.000 What do you mean by that?

00:12:08.000 Like maximize every day in terms of for faith or just both.

00:12:11.000 Just what does it mean to live a full life for you?

00:12:14.000 And just a lot of, there's a lot of pessimism and a lot of negativity out there right now.

00:12:20.000 Yeah, I think that living a full life.

00:12:25.000 Really, I think, you know, as you said, starting with faith, it starts with God, right?

00:12:29.000 And everything kind of trickles down there.

00:12:31.000 So if I'm doing things that glorify him and that lives in moral excellence, right?

00:12:37.000 I think that that's really important.

00:12:39.000 Like, you know, in a hierarchy of values, I think that you can place, you know, materialism and like these superficial things.

00:12:46.000 But I think that the most important thing that we should prioritize is our character.

00:12:49.000 And so if I'm doing things every single day that are a good character, then I consider that a day well spent, right?

00:12:56.000 Because that's living in accordance to God's laws.

00:13:00.000 And the other thing, too, about characters that it's good under all circumstances, right?

00:13:06.000 Like if you're healthy, you need to, you know, good character is going to allow you to do good stuff with your health.

00:13:12.000 If you're not healthy, good character is going to allow you to endure the pain and suffering that you have because you have poor health, right?

00:13:17.000 So character is good under all circumstances.

00:13:21.000 So I think that's a super important thing.

00:13:22.000 And then I also think too that one more thing on the character point is that when you do face the suffering, it allows you to exercise your character and to improve it, to strengthen it.

00:13:31.000 So I think that, you know, if you want to say maximize each day, I would say that it's working on your character, right?

00:13:38.000 That's a good day at a minimum, right?

00:13:42.000 So you went to, did you go to public high school?

00:13:45.000 Were you homeschooled?

00:13:46.000 I went to public high school, yeah.

00:13:47.000 So did it bother you when people were complaining about, you know, how awful their life was and or just, you know, what yeah, I mean, I mean, if I'm being really honest, I think that some people, yeah, they complain about things that are just, like, they're not real problems, to be quite frank.

00:14:04.000 But I think that, you know, a lot of times when people had problems, I would try to help them.

00:14:08.000 And let's fix it.

00:14:10.000 The one thing I do not like is when people talk about problems, but they do not want to fix them.

00:14:14.000 That drives me nuts.

00:14:15.000 I want to solve the problem, right?

00:14:18.000 Like, my disease, have disease, okay?

00:14:20.000 Well, I'm going to try and complete the cure for it now, right?

00:14:23.000 Like, let's not just complain about it.

00:14:24.000 Let's do something about it.

00:14:25.000 So that's kind of my view on when I heard other people in high school or just in general today complain about their problems.

00:14:32.000 So tell us more about your faith.

00:14:34.000 Tell us, you know, does, you know, tell us about your journey and your walk.

00:14:39.000 Have you ever had doubts and struggles?

00:14:42.000 And you go to Jack Kibbs Church, right?

00:14:44.000 Yeah.

00:14:44.000 Who's the man?

00:14:45.000 So tell us about that.

00:14:46.000 So when I was 11 years old, I mean, I was always raised Christian.

00:14:46.000 Yeah.

00:14:49.000 But when I was 11 years old, I definitely started going, okay, well, why is God real?

00:14:53.000 Why is this stuff true?

00:14:54.000 And really started to think about it.

00:14:57.000 And so I really got into apologenics and studying people like Dr. William Lane Craig or Lee Strobel or these brilliant people who have given rational and evidential arguments for God's existence.

00:15:14.000 And so that has really helped me, and I really still love that today.

00:15:18.000 I really love philosophy and just studying that.

00:15:20.000 And so I did have my doubts, but now that has really strengthened my faith.

00:15:23.000 And I think that when you have those questions, it's not that you're questioning God, but it's you're trying to better understand him.

00:15:29.000 And so when you have a problem, you don't understand something, you're trying to fix that question.

00:15:35.000 That just lets you understand God better and get closer to him.

00:15:38.000 And so I would say that, yes, I have had doubts, and that's how I got stronger.

00:15:43.000 And Jack Kibbs, you know, he definitely has a lot of people that come speak there at his church that are into defending the faith and arguing for it and everything like that.

00:15:53.000 Yeah.

00:15:54.000 And so what has really helped strengthen your faith more than anything else?

00:16:01.000 I mean, to be honest, I really think that apologenics is definitely just the way that I work, right?

00:16:06.000 I like to have a rational reason for believing in God.

00:16:09.000 But I would say that in terms of believing in God, but in terms of growing my relationship, praying, fellowship, and reading the Bible, it's just, there's nothing like those three.

00:16:21.000 You have to have all three.

00:16:22.000 And that really helps me grow, especially fellowship, because you see other people going through different walks in their life.

00:16:27.000 And they got your back, I got their back, and it just, you grow together.

00:16:31.000 Yeah.

00:16:32.000 So you are moving ahead with your nonprofit, Destroy Duchesne.

00:16:38.000 Tell us about how people can get behind it and support it.

00:16:41.000 And just tell us more about that.

00:16:42.000 Yeah, so people can follow it on social media, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, all that, LinkedIn.

00:16:51.000 And then they can also just check out the website, www.destroyduchin.org, and just check it out.

00:16:58.000 And if they would like to donate, that would be great too.

00:17:02.000 And yeah, that's how they can get behind it.

00:17:03.000 Awesome.

00:17:04.000 So what else are you working on or else on your mind that you wanted to explore or make our audience aware about?

00:17:12.000 I'm currently about to publish a book which is written about when I was, yeah.

00:17:16.000 So I wrote it when I was like, I started at 16, finished it when I was 17.

00:17:21.000 I'm finally getting it published now.

00:17:24.000 But the book is basically a memoir of my life.

00:17:27.000 And so I tell a story of each part of my life, a significant part.

00:17:31.000 And at the end of each chapter, there's a life lesson that I learned.

00:17:34.000 So some of those is self-image, how you view yourself.

00:17:36.000 Some of it is worrying about what you can and can't control, the dichotomy of control, adapting, if you have this challenge in your life, you're just going to have to adapt to it.

00:17:48.000 So there's all these different lessons and stuff like that in the book.

00:17:51.000 And it's just really about all the adversity and overcoming suffering.

00:17:56.000 And really, I think the title explains it best.

00:17:59.000 It's called A Small If.

00:18:01.000 And so the story behind that is, when I was 16, my back muscles were getting so weak and I was getting scoliosis in my back.

00:18:09.000 And so my doctor wanted to, he started really pushing for me to have spine surgery where they would insert a metal rod in your back to straighten out your spine, right?

00:18:19.000 I really didn't want that.

00:18:20.000 I don't think anyone does.

00:18:22.000 And so I was really trying to push back.

00:18:23.000 And me and him went back and forth in the doctor's office and he was saying that, you know, as a doctor, I can't give you any false hope.

00:18:29.000 I really got to start to push.

00:18:30.000 I said, okay, well, let's just say if I were able to straighten out my back, could I avoid having the surgery?

00:18:35.000 Because I don't want to have the surgery.

00:18:37.000 My mom's crying, my dad's all sad.

00:18:39.000 I'm sitting there.

00:18:40.000 And he said, once again, as a doctor, I can't give you false hope, but because I know you, I will give you a small if, you know, if you were able to do it.

00:18:48.000 So for the next four months, I went to physical therapy, lost some weight, was eating healthy, totally zoned in on making this happen.

00:18:57.000 And then four months later, it happened.

00:18:58.000 And you avoided surgery.

00:18:58.000 Wow.

00:18:59.000 Yeah.

00:19:00.000 And so that was like, you know, I don't want to say it's an impossibility, but it was like, whoa, like, you're not supposed to do that.

00:19:05.000 The doctor, you know, he even said that I've never seen anybody do that.

00:19:08.000 Like, I don't think you can do it, but like, go ahead and try.

00:19:12.000 But like, that's not supposed to happen.

00:19:14.000 So, you know, that's really what the book's about.

00:19:16.000 It's like, if you have a possibility to do something, you put everything behind it, you can make it happen even if it's a small if, right?

00:19:23.000 Yeah.

00:19:24.000 That's such a good lesson.

00:19:25.000 So when is the book coming out?

00:19:28.000 The official date, I'm not totally sure.

00:19:29.000 Yeah, I know it's like after March.

00:19:30.000 So sometime around then.

00:19:32.000 What are some of the other lessons in there?

00:19:36.000 Well, I mean, the first one is about doing things that seemed impossible.

00:19:40.000 The second one is called Stay Ambitious, right?

00:19:43.000 The lessons about staying ambitious, which I believe that really the lesson here is that if you're not chasing after anything in life, right?

00:19:51.000 You're not going after anything, you don't have any goals, then you're really just existing, right?

00:19:55.000 It's when you're ambitious, when you're really in that constant state of staying ambitious, that's when you really come to life and that you develop the passion and energy and everything that you need, right?

00:20:05.000 That's when I, for me at least, that's when I find myself to be the most energized.

00:20:09.000 Yeah.

00:20:11.000 And yeah, there's just, you know, third lesson is self-sacrifice.

00:20:14.000 You know, there's all kinds of lessons that I learned, and they come from different parts.

00:20:19.000 You know, like self-sacrifice comes from my brother Max, you know, constantly going to the hospital with him.

00:20:24.000 He's a whole other story.

00:20:25.000 There's two chapters on him.

00:20:27.000 He's a whole lesson himself.

00:20:29.000 But yeah, I learned a lot through my young 19 years.

00:20:34.000 Wow.

00:20:35.000 So last couple questions.

00:20:37.000 What's your favorite Bible verse?

00:20:38.000 Favorite Bible verse.

00:20:39.000 Wow.

00:20:40.000 That's a hard one.

00:20:41.000 Hmm.

00:20:48.000 I think it would probably be, I believe it's, it's either first or second.

00:20:54.000 It's first or second Corinthians 10, 5, which basically says that.

00:20:58.000 I'll paraphrase, but it basically says that we tear down any argument or pretension that sets itself against the knowledge of God.

00:21:07.000 So Paul was writing there.

00:21:08.000 He was basically talking about how they're just going around and making every thought obedient to Christ.

00:21:14.000 And so I really like that as someone that likes to debate about the existence of God and give good reasons for becoming a Christian.

00:21:22.000 Yeah, that's well said.

00:21:24.000 So, well, I'm inspired by you, Elijah, and the work you're doing.

00:21:27.000 So it's destroyduchain.com.org.org.

00:21:30.000 How do you spell Duchesne?

00:21:32.000 Yes. 1.00

00:21:32.000 So it's D-U-C-H-E-N-N-E. 1.00

00:21:36.000 Awesome. 1.00

00:21:37.000 And I have my wristband in the other room.

00:21:40.000 And you give me a nice sweatshirt.

00:21:42.000 Yes.

00:21:42.000 And I'll be at Jack Kibbs Church next week.

00:21:44.000 Yes.

00:21:45.000 And I'll see you there.

00:21:45.000 Awesome.

00:21:46.000 And you're doing great work, man.

00:21:47.000 I want to be supportive of what you're doing and how you're doing it.

00:21:50.000 And so I have a feeling you're going to make a huge breakthrough on this.

00:21:52.000 Thank you.

00:21:53.000 Very soon.

00:21:53.000 So God bless you, man.

00:21:54.000 I appreciate it.

00:21:55.000 Thank you.

00:21:55.000 You bet.

00:21:59.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:22:01.000 Email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

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00:22:07.000 Thank you guys for listening, and I encourage you to get involved with Turning Point USA.

00:22:11.000 Go to tpusa.com.

00:22:13.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:22:14.000 God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - January 17, 2021

A Much-Needed Message of Hope

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