English is now the official language of the United States. Also, why should we care about Romania? Well, what's happening in Romania is scary and dark and disturbing. Victor Panta, former prime minister of Romania, joins the show to explain and discuss canceled elections, people being detained for no reason, and so much more.
00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Alex Marlowe joins us about how should I handle my upcoming appearance on Gavin Newsom's podcast.
00:00:08.000A very important Wisconsin Supreme Court seat is looming.
00:00:11.000We dive into the details and the implications and why you should care and get engaged and get involved.
00:00:32.000Victor Panta, former prime minister of Romania and wants to be the next president of Romania, joins the show to explain and discuss canceled elections, people being detained for no reason, that and so much more.
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00:02:01.000Today, breaking news, President Donald Trump is signing an executive order making English the official U.S. language.
00:02:10.000Did you know that we did not have a U.S. language in our country's history?
00:02:13.000Even though, of course, the Constitution, the Declaration, the Federalist Papers, all of our founding documents are written in English, our laws and our customs, we have not had an official language of the United States.
00:02:29.000The numbers are approximate, and they could put them in the chat, but based on my memory, I believe that Spanish is the dominant language for those under the age of 40 in the state of California, if I'm not mistaken.
00:02:43.000That Spanish is actually spoken more than English at home in the state of California.
00:02:49.000If you cannot communicate with your neighbor, you become a nation of strangers.
00:02:53.000You become foreigners in your own land.
00:02:57.000And more importantly, this is a symbol that we do have a certain tradition in this country and we are going to protect and defend it.
00:03:07.000Did you know that English is an official language in India, Pakistan, and the Philippines, but not in America?
00:04:09.000And I originally got that, by the way, from the great Michael Savage, just to be clear.
00:04:12.000I did not come up with that, but when I started listening to him back in 2010, 2011, he was always on borders, language, culture, borders, language, culture.
00:05:04.000And by the way, all of our, well not mine, because my family's been around since 1620, but all of people that have immigrated to this country, assimilate.
00:05:13.000If you do not assimilate to the land that you come to, then you don't have a nation.
00:05:19.000Assimilate through culture and through, most importantly, language.
00:05:40.000From what I understand, a lot of my friends were invited as influencers to some sort of an influencer gathering at the White House about meeting J.D. and meeting Caroline Levitt.
00:05:53.000They were given binders about some of the Epstein documents, but apparently all the Epstein documents that they were given were documents that were already made public and so went totally viral.
00:07:30.000Do you remember during the Mueller investigation?
00:07:33.000During the Mueller investigation, when the Mueller team intentionally inputted wrong passwords on their phones so many times that it triggered an automatic phone wipe, whoops, broke my phone, thus triggering a complete broke my phone, thus triggering a complete deletion of all the text messages and communications on the Mueller team.
00:07:59.000They should have been imprisoned just for that, the Mueller team.
00:08:03.000I want you to understand what the Mueller team did.
00:10:58.000There's a lot of excitement in Washington, D.C. as we start the year, but I wanted to talk to you about something just as exciting happening outside the D.C. Beltway.
00:11:10.000It's real, it's growing, and growing because some states, as they should, are putting parents in charge of the education of their kids.
00:11:18.000Everyone knows education has the power to change a kid's life, and anyone who raised a child knows each has different needs, learning styles, and God-given talents.
00:11:27.000The fact is parents know their own children best, knows what's best for their development and future.
00:11:33.000Education freedom legislation puts parents, not zip codes and politicians in charge of these important family decisions.
00:11:41.000It's why I strongly support making universal education freedom a reality for every parent in every state.
00:11:48.000To find out where your state legislature stands and to make sure your voice is heard, go to educationfreedomusa.com now.
00:13:21.000He is someone who's going to be very vulnerable to debate, and I would not necessarily debate him in a traditional sense because you're going to crush him and it might look weird.
00:13:30.000What I would love to see you do is actually probe his bad ideas because he's got a couple of parlor tricks.
00:13:35.000He uses vocabulary to make it sound like he's incredibly informed on stuff.
00:13:39.000He'll use words that you don't even know.
00:13:42.000If you ask him to find the words, he doesn't know what they are.
00:13:44.000And he doesn't have a good track record.
00:13:47.000He tends to know where to show up in places and how to speak nicely to people who might disagree with him.
00:13:52.000But then he goes around and he's spending, you know, $50 million right now trying to Trump-proof California at the same time he's asking for Trump to spend $40 billion on fire relief.
00:14:03.000He's never really explained why the reservoirs have run dry and why we prioritize the Delta smelt over the human populations when it comes to the fires in California.
00:14:14.000But the main thing I would do, Charlie, if I were you, is just ask him to fully flesh out his positions.
00:14:19.000And what you'll find is he'll be using these words that are just trying to impress people as if he's an expert.
00:14:26.000He's not an expert in anything other than being a politician.
00:14:29.000You being a Californian, what would you say, an average non-political Californian, if they had an opportunity to challenge Gavin Newsom in an unfiltered way?
00:15:19.000And ask him why he thinks that he should be, he does not deserve any accountability considering he's been a fixture in California politics for that long.
00:16:08.000That was his ticket to have a chance of beating Trump, and I don't see how he could beat anyone in 2028, considering he blew all that, if we're able to make that case.
00:16:17.000Quickly, he's probably going to run to the middle and position himself more as a moderate.
00:16:22.000I'm just kind of inferring based on that trailer.
00:16:26.000Do you think something like that could end up being successful?
00:16:29.000Yeah, it's a great thing that he has a feel for being able to do this.
00:16:35.000He has a feel for being able to find a centrist position, but just know he's governed as a pure leftist, and it won't take you very long to bone up on some of his key proponents that he's taken up over the years, but they are...
00:16:48.000Across the board, left-wing Democrat, quote-unquote progressive politics without a single exception.
00:16:53.000He's never worked for a Republican or a moderate, which is why, again, I'm frankly surprised actually having you on because he's terrible in these situations because he's not used to debating people who disagree with him completely.
00:17:30.000One of the most important things happening in the country politically right now is the Supreme Court special election in the wonderful state of Wisconsin.
00:17:40.000And joining us right now is the candidate for the Wisconsin Supreme Court, Brad Schimmel, a great Wisconsinite.
00:19:26.000My opponent went on a Zoom call with billionaire donors across America, liberal ones, of course, and she offered up.
00:19:35.000That if she gets help getting elected onto the Wisconsin Supreme Court, they're going to take out two Republican congressional seats in Wisconsin and turn them Democrat.
00:20:05.000So let's go back to the previous Supreme Court race that we lost, I believe in 2023. What happened after we lost that?
00:20:15.000What were some of the decisions that ensued because of that lost election?
00:20:19.000You know, the candidate who ran, the liberal, she openly stated on the campaign trail how she was going to rule on cases.
00:20:26.000She told voters that the maps are rigged, referring to the state legislative district maps.
00:20:33.000She said they're rigged over and over again.
00:20:36.000No surprise, the day after she was sworn in, the lawsuit was filed to have those maps struck down, and within a matter of months, the leftist majority bypassed the trial court, bypassed the Court of Appeals, took the case directly up, and struck down the maps that were put in law by our state legislature so they could be redistricted and gerrymandered.
00:21:02.000They promised on the campaign trail that they're going to take out a thing called Act 10. Most people in America don't know what it is, but it's a reform in Wisconsin that limited some of the bargaining power of public employee unions.
00:21:16.000It has nothing to do with private sector unions, but limited some of the power of public sector unions.
00:21:22.000They're promising on the campaign trail to take that out.
00:23:12.000The trend of these elections has become unnecessarily more partisan.
00:23:17.000I imagine that 20 or 30 years ago, Wisconsin Supreme Court elections weren't this divisive.
00:23:24.000But it is those on the left or on the activist side that are deciding to rewrite the Constitution and contort state law towards their political aims and ends and purposes.
00:24:05.000The political branches should worry about the politics.
00:24:08.000On the court, we should set that aside.
00:24:10.000When you put the black robe on, that's symbolic of being objective, being impartial, not worrying about whether it's a good policy or a bad policy, but simply enforcing and implementing the law the way the legislature wrote it.
00:24:27.000If we don't do it that way, this all fails.
00:24:29.000If the court's going to get into writing the laws, then there's no reason to have a legislature.
00:24:35.000If the court's going to engage in political decisions, then there's no reason to have an executive branch.
00:25:54.000And I think they're all going to say, no, there's a lot more work to do.
00:25:58.000Well, then we've got to convince them that part of that work is to get out and vote April 1st.
00:26:02.000If I get 60% of the voters who voted for Donald Trump in Wisconsin for November 5th, if I get 60% of them to come out and vote for me on April 1st, I win.
00:26:13.000That's our message to people, is get out there and vote.
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00:28:41.000Okay, everybody, there is a lot going on in a certain Eastern European country, and it's not Ukraine.
00:28:48.000We will talk about Ukraine, but it's Romania.
00:28:52.000Growing up in Chicago, there were some amazing Romanian-Americans that I was raised with, really great people that were passionate about America, and of course, also the country of origin of Romania.
00:29:08.000But what's going on in Romania is of international significance that everyone here should care about.
00:29:15.000Canceled elections, people being detained for differences of opinion, and so much more.
00:29:23.000To help us understand this is the former prime minister of Romania.
00:29:28.000He's a member of the Chamber of Deputies and also a candidate for a new term for the president of Romania, Victor Ponta.
00:29:37.000Mr. Prime Minister, thank you so much for joining the program and for making time for us today.
00:29:43.000Please take a second to introduce yourself and welcome to the program.
00:29:46.000First of all, good morning in America.
00:29:50.000It's not morning in Romania, but we are really looking for sunnier weather here in terms of politics, and we have great hopes after the new Trump administration came.
00:30:03.000Yes, I was Prime Minister a long time, ten years ago, when Romania was trying to become a real strategic partner for the United States.
00:30:14.000When Romania was making big economic advances.
00:30:19.000But in the last years, unfortunately, a sort of network of, like you say, you call it in America, the deep state, took over the power.
00:30:30.000It was strongly supported by some people in Brussels and even some people in your former administration.
00:30:38.000Romanian people, they just want to live peacefully, to be a part of Europe, but to have a special relationship with the United States.
00:30:51.000There was a lot of hope with the new administration, with Trump administration, that we will go back to our shared values.
00:30:59.000But as you mentioned, and I'm sure you want to get to the point, what happened in the elections showed us that the former system do not surrender, do not accept the vote of the people.
00:31:12.000Last year in November it was the first round which was cancelled based on some allegation never proved.
00:31:20.000And since then we are in this turmoil.
00:31:23.000Officially we will have new elections in May, but every day something new is happening.
00:31:29.000And I think that what is happening in Romania is significant for the whole fight for freedom of speech, for the will of the people, and the change of the former system in the US, in Europe, and all over the and the change of the former system in the US, in So, thank you for that.
00:31:49.000I know you're running for president again, which is of high consequence and also potential risk given all of the different factors.
00:31:56.000So, let's just repeat what you said and further explain this.
00:31:59.000So, Romania is part of NATO and part of now the Western democratic traditions.
00:32:53.000It was obvious, according to all the polls and the public mood, that Mr. Georgescu was going to win.
00:33:02.000And then the Supreme Council of Defending the Country, which is a body chaired by the former president of Romania, who finished his mandate, they recommended the Constitutional Court to cancel the elections based on they recommended the Constitutional Court to cancel the elections based on an allegation that it was Russian and foreign interference in support of one of the
00:33:27.000We were all shocked first because in our democratic experience in the last 35 years, it was first time that an election is canceled.
00:33:40.000Second, because the allegations coming from the former president were so, let's say, really shocking.
00:33:49.000Russia interference with just us and the US and Europe and the independent observers, they just said, show us the proof, show us the evidence.
00:34:02.000We've seen that also in your election, so many allegations of Mr. Trump being supported by Russia.
00:34:10.000And we haven't seen any evidence up to now.
00:34:13.000The election was still cancelled by the Constitutional Court.
00:34:17.000And the turmoil, the angriness of the people, it's going towards the idea you don't accept our vote unless our vote is the direction that you wish.
00:34:31.000Something that Vice President Vance underlined in the recent Munich conference speech, and which our political establishment rejected, but the majority of the people consider it right and true regarding our situation.
00:34:48.000So I have to stay on this for a second.
00:34:51.000So this sounds very similar to what happened in America in 2017. So the main allegation was that the TikTok campaign of one of the candidates has
00:35:21.000been massively supported from outside of the country and by a state entity.
00:35:31.000This is called in this Supreme Council of Defense statement.
00:35:39.000And then, yes, the Constitutional Court in Romania, it has the general right, like it is the Supreme Court in the United States, of defending the Constitution.
00:35:50.000It doesn't say in any provision that they can cancel the election or they can It's just guarding the Constitution and also the Constitutional Court is supposed to certify the result of the presidential election.
00:36:16.000We had good results and bad results depending on which candidate we supported.
00:36:22.000But it has the Constitutional Court, if you ask me very specifically, it's the first time in 35 years when it takes such a decision of examining and the cancellation of presidential election.
00:36:37.000That's why we are all so frustrated and so worried about the real democratic rules, because the majority of us, we feel that this is not democratic, that if the people vote, So let me just ask,
00:37:02.000The fellow European countries that are defenders of democracy, that are relentlessly lecturing America and Romania about the need for elections and we can't have autocracy.
00:38:41.000How do you want to give us, your partners, clear messages that you will respect the will of the people?
00:38:50.000But December, as you regarding your very direct question, the European establishment and the Biden administration, they just took it for granted the short communication of the Romanian authorities.
00:39:08.000They just supported without getting too deep into this.
00:39:12.000All in the name of democracy, the Western governments who constantly are telling us that that autocracy is growing, that for some reason we have to cancel elections.
00:39:24.000So I know that you're going to be running for president again.
00:39:27.000But let me just ask a more broad and general question.
00:39:32.000Of course, Romania was in the Eastern Bloc for decades and lived under a form of totalitarianism, outsourced totalitarianism, and communism and Marxism.
00:39:45.000I know you're running for the presidency again, and you were former prime minister.
00:39:49.000Are you concerned that the country that you love, that you want to serve again, is becoming more like a Soviet top-down dictatorship?
00:40:03.000I am very concerned because I've seen what happened in Romania in the last years.
00:40:10.000And because you mentioned, yes, we come from the communist bloc, but even during the Soviet time, we succeeded to preserve our national values, which is loving our country, religion, family, traditional values, which are very close to our mentality.
00:40:30.000And in the last years, we felt like coming from Brussels this time, not from Moscow, it was the same effort of trying to change our values, our mentality, our traditions.
00:40:47.000And the reaction of the people, including myself, it was like, look, we want to be in Europe.
00:40:53.000We feel well in Europe, but we want to be Romanians.
00:41:49.000And this is how I explain why the two candidates coming from the government, from the main parties, They did not even qualify for the second round.
00:42:00.000It was the first time in our democracy, and it gave a very, very strong message about what Romanian people really want.
00:42:08.000A big change, not changing the Moscow times with the Brussels times.
00:42:16.000We are afraid of Russia, but we see the United States as being our ally, which will guarantee not only our military safe.
00:42:26.000But also our values and our democracy and our freedom of speech and everything that we and our parents have fought for.
00:42:35.000So I want to continue on that, which is if you are elected prime minister again, how would you position yourself with the incoming Trump administration?
00:42:47.000Because the new German government seems to be saying we must decouple from the United States.
00:42:53.000You're running for president, not prime minister, I'm sorry.
00:42:59.000And so if you are president, again, how would you position your country with the United States when it comes to not just international and geopolitical matters, but also ones of domestic concern?
00:43:12.000How should Romania and the United States work cooperatively?
00:43:16.000I strongly believe that, first of all, the values, most of the values that we have The Trump administration is trying to reinstate in the United States are not only acceptable, but are feeling very familiar to Romanians.
00:43:34.000Once again, to put your country on first position, you put United States, and President Trump is doing this.
00:43:40.000We should put Romania on the first position always, and to fight for our sovereignty and our national interest.
00:43:55.000But we have a tradition, we have a religion, we have our values which should be respected and in Europe we just have to be a member of a club but not surrendering our tradition and our national interest.
00:44:14.000Being more concrete regarding this new...
00:44:20.000Let's call it a conflict between the US and the European establishment.
00:44:27.000First of all, I think that the idea of change is more than necessary for Europe like it is for America.
00:44:37.000Whatever is important about reducing bureaucracy, getting back to the real values, cutting off the Soros fake values that were imposed, it's something good for Europe and it's something good for Romania.
00:44:54.000Besides that, in terms of security, Romania wishes to contribute more.
00:45:00.000We understand that we cannot just say, "We don't care.
00:45:05.000America will defend us against Russia.
00:45:08.000So it's U.S. concern to bring here military." No, we want to share.
00:45:15.000We want to have a very pragmatic approach, saying, Look, Romania can afford now to pay, to invest more, as long as we have a strong and reliable partner in the United States.
00:45:27.000And I strongly believe that Europe is going to be weaker without the United States.
00:45:36.000I strongly believe that NATO without the United States doesn't exist and doesn't work.
00:45:42.000And it's the interest of Romania, and it's in the good interest of Europe, To strengthen the relationship, military, politically, economically with the United States, not to look for a conflict which will totally be in disadvantage of my country and Europe.
00:46:05.000During your premiership, the Romanian economy grew quite significantly.
00:46:12.000What was your proudest achievement when you were Prime Minister?
00:46:18.000And what would you have done differently, maybe in hindsight, from 2012 to 2015?
00:46:22.000So when I was Prime Minister, this is something that, to my big surprise, my enemies and my friends are sharing.
00:46:30.000The Romanian economy was growing based on very low taxation and less reglementation.
00:46:39.000And also, we strengthened the partnership with the United States.
00:48:38.000Let's dive a little bit deeper, if that's okay.
00:48:40.000George Soros is well known here in American circles for pumping billions of dollars into our communities, our neighborhoods, our district attorney races, trying to thwart the will of the people and trying to turn America into an open border, no crime enforcement, weakened, disastrous country.
00:48:58.000What specifically has George Soros and his foundation Open Society Foundation done in your country.
00:49:05.000And if you win the election, what would you do about it?
00:49:09.000The worst thing that people financed and supported, not only by Soros NGOs, but sometimes even from your USAID funds.
00:49:24.000We were so happy to see that you started in America to unveil how those funds were used and how those funds were used against the interest of the people, but rather to control different countries and different nations.
00:49:41.000So maybe the worst thing that they do, they try to control the judiciary.
00:49:48.000And a lot of prosecutors and judges They just persecuted people because we were promoting different political ideas.
00:50:00.000They prosecuted people for having different opinions on social networks or in the media.
00:50:08.000The Soros network built up a sort of network of analysts, reporters, journalists, influencers who are just telling us This is the truth.
00:50:26.000Or otherwise, our prosecutors will prosecute you for something else.
00:50:31.000And now, just crossing my mind, I remember that the biggest protesters against all energy and natural resources projects that we started with big American companies.
00:51:43.000Kind of educate our audience, the separate visions that are being presented to the Romanian people.
00:51:50.000So I would just wish to take this great opportunity to talk to you.
00:51:55.000You have so many followers, so many people in America, first of all, to tell you that the majority of American people, they really look to the United States like the model for democracy and for freedom, and even my parents.
00:52:21.000And I also wish to tell you that all the Romanians, most of the Romanians who are working in America or with U.S. companies, they tried to prove that...
00:52:35.000We are good partners and reliable partners.
00:53:47.000Now we're at the point, of course, that the situation has gotten so bad that this December...
00:53:53.000Romania straight-up canceled the results of a presidential election based on the flimsy suspicions of an intelligence agency and enormous pressure from its continental neighbors.
00:54:04.000Now, as I understand it, the argument was that Russian disinformation had infected the Romanian elections.
00:54:12.000But I'd ask my European friends to have some perspective.
00:54:16.000You can believe it's wrong for Russia to buy social media advertisements to influence your elections.
00:54:24.000You can condemn it on the world stage even.
00:54:26.000But if your democracy can be destroyed with a few hundred thousand dollars of digital advertising from a foreign country, then it wasn't very strong to begin with.
00:55:00.000Then if we are a strong democracy, we don't use undemocratic tools to cancel election.
00:55:07.000We have to prove if Russia has been involved or not.
00:55:11.000Otherwise, The people went to vote, you have to respect that vote.
00:55:16.000That was the message that I got from Vice President Vance and I think it was what the majority of Romanians were wanting to hear and they were pleased to see that our big partner finally has such a strong voice supporting the Romanian people's will.
00:55:38.000Very good to have you on the program, sir.
00:55:45.000As a Westerner, I don't know, under current leadership, if I were to come to Romania, I might be arrested under the direction that it's going.
00:55:53.000So we need you to win the presidency or whomever, whatever party, and then I would imagine I would be welcome in your country.