The Charlie Kirk Show - February 26, 2022


A New Axis of Evil


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What would happen if every Ukrainian had a gun? What if they had a Second Amendment? Would things happening in Ukraine look any different? And we re joined by Keith Rose to talk about that and so much more on today s episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, what would happen if every Ukrainian had a firearm? 1.00
00:00:04.000 What if they had a Second Amendment?
00:00:05.000 Would things happening in Ukraine look any different?
00:00:09.000 And we're joined by Keith Rose to talk about that and so much more.
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00:01:27.000 What does China have to do with Russia?
00:01:29.000 Well, one of the theories that we floated on this show is that Russia feels empowered and emboldened to do aggressive action, such as invading Ukraine, when they have China in their back pocket.
00:01:46.000 Is the Russia-China alliance something as strong as now we're seeing a new super alliance of dictators that want to go against the West?
00:01:54.000 Someone who knows China better than anybody else, knows the CCP and the geopolitics surrounding it, is my friend Gordon Chang, who's just terrific.
00:02:02.000 Gordon, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:04.000 Thank you so much, Charlie.
00:02:06.000 So, Gordon, walk us through what is the Russia-China relationship?
00:02:10.000 Why has China not denounced the invasion of Ukraine?
00:02:14.000 And connect the dots for us.
00:02:17.000 Well, first of all, Charlie, not only has Beijing refused to denounce the invasion of Ukraine, it actually refuses to call it an invasion, which shows you how close China and Russia are.
00:02:29.000 When Vladimir Putin went to Beijing for the opening ceremony of the Olympics, February 4, they had that meeting, Putin and Xi Jinping.
00:02:38.000 What happened is they issued that very long communique that announced the no-limits partnership.
00:02:44.000 But even more important, they announced $117.5 billion in new, new oil and gas deals.
00:02:54.000 And just a few days ago, Charlie, Russia announced the sale of 100 million metric tons of coal to China.
00:03:01.000 This means Beijing is actually financing Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
00:03:06.000 And we see China supporting Russia in other ways.
00:03:10.000 This is, as you say, a super partnership of really bad actors.
00:03:15.000 This is perhaps the end of the Cold War, post-Cold War period.
00:03:21.000 This really looks like the beginning of a general period of conflict.
00:03:26.000 So we buy all this cheap plastic from China after we deindustrialize our country.
00:03:32.000 And then China takes those U.S. dollars that we trade to them to then go buy energy from Russia that they need because China really has no access to energy even close to what we have or Russia has.
00:03:46.000 And then Russia takes that money to go invade Ukraine to finance the terror of a sovereign country.
00:03:56.000 So let me ask you, Gordon, with this new super alliance that has been formed, you know, one of the things that President Trump never got credit for was keeping China and Russia kind of in their own corner.
00:04:05.000 He made sure they never got too close together.
00:04:07.000 He made sure that the partnership was never really sealed.
00:04:11.000 He had the famous Xi Jinping summit at Mar-a-Lago.
00:04:14.000 He met with Vladimir Putin in Helsinki.
00:04:17.000 He did everything he possibly could to try to disrupt the cementing of that relationship.
00:04:23.000 Is this now going to be the new 21st century Axis? 0.99
00:04:26.000 Is Russia-China going to merge into kind of you do your ethnostate, we'll do our ethnostate, and the West is the enemy? 0.58
00:04:33.000 Is that the way this is playing out?
00:04:35.000 Oh, it certainly is.
00:04:37.000 China and Russia see their interests coincide, and they identify the same adversary, which is us.
00:04:44.000 And that is driving Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin together.
00:04:47.000 During the Trump years, as you point out, President Trump accomplished what the current National Security Advisor, Jake Sullivan, has been trying to do, which is, as they say in the White House, quote unquote, park Russia.
00:05:01.000 In other words, to get Russia to stay to one side. 0.71
00:05:04.000 Trump actually accomplished that.
00:05:06.000 And what we are seeing is that the Biden administration has undone all the good work of the Trump administration when it comes to China and Russia.
00:05:15.000 And it's no coincidence that Vladimir Putin has decided to go after Ukraine in the Biden administration, not in the Trump years.
00:05:24.000 That's exactly right.
00:05:25.000 And so I want to ask you, Gordon, about this story, which only further kind of proves the point.
00:05:31.000 So Joe Biden had this brilliant idea to go share with China the intelligence we had about Russia's military buildup, hoping that China would somehow tell Russia to back off.
00:05:43.000 Not that we were going to do it, but somehow relying on China.
00:05:46.000 The New York Times reports that then Chinese officials rebuffed the United States and then shared the information with Moscow.
00:05:54.000 It's unprecedented.
00:05:56.000 Yeah, and Biden should have known that was exactly going to happen because the two of them are working hand in glove.
00:06:02.000 We have seen, for instance, the Chinese and the Russian militaries exercise with each other since 2005.
00:06:09.000 But last year, they took that cooperation to a new level.
00:06:13.000 When you had Russian soldiers actually using Chinese weapons, that shows a desire to build interoperability.
00:06:21.000 And that means it's an integrated military at some point.
00:06:26.000 You know, the Biden team has these sort of unrealistic, ludicrous even notions of China.
00:06:32.000 And that's for a number of reasons.
00:06:35.000 But, you know, Biden should have known that the Chinese were going to do that. 1.00
00:06:39.000 To me, it's incomprehensible that they would actually share anything with China that was not supposed to go to Moscow.
00:06:47.000 So people are now contemplating what should our actions be to respond to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
00:06:55.000 Our country's war worry, myself included.
00:06:58.000 I don't think U.S. troops need to get in the way of this.
00:07:00.000 But now that this new super alliance is formed, and that's one of the big takeaways I hope our listeners really internalize from this, what is the proper course of action here, Gordon?
00:07:10.000 Because what you're telling me is China is basically they're backing up Russia.
00:07:15.000 Putin feels empowered and emboldened because he has a new ally, not new, but strengthened ally.
00:07:22.000 And will China take Taiwan next?
00:07:24.000 What's your opinion on that?
00:07:26.000 Yeah, I can tell you, if we were back two weeks ago, a lot of reasons why China would not invade Taiwan.
00:07:34.000 But right now, all the assumptions of that world with two weeks ago are now gone because we don't know what's going on.
00:07:42.000 Vladimir Putin has changed the world probably irrevocably, and he's changed it in such a way that we can't assume anything anymore.
00:07:51.000 So yeah, Xi Jinping has looked at the meek response of President Biden to Ukraine, and he's probably thinking, well, I could do something.
00:07:59.000 It could be Taiwan, could be Japan, could be the Philippines, could be India, could be Nepal, could be Bhutan, anywhere along China's southern and eastern peripheries.
00:08:10.000 We probably will see some sort of provocative, belligerent action again by China.
00:08:16.000 And this is thanks to the Biden administration's not being able. to deter Russia.
00:08:22.000 We're such a stronger country than Russia.
00:08:24.000 We're stronger than China and Russia together, but we can't deter them when you have incompetent leadership in the Oval Office.
00:08:33.000 Incompetent, corrupt, and also captured by the environmentalists that don't want us to be energy supreme or superior.
00:08:39.000 You wrote the book, The Coming Collapse of China.
00:08:42.000 With these latest developments, where does the collapse of China stand now?
00:08:47.000 Actually, China right now has a very dangerous situation.
00:08:50.000 It's got a debt crisis it can't solve.
00:08:53.000 The stagnant economy, worsening food shortages, and COVID outbreaks it can't control.
00:08:59.000 It's really in trouble, and that makes it even more dangerous, Charlie, because Chinese leaders see a closing window of opportunity. 1.00
00:09:07.000 We've got to be really concerned.
00:09:08.000 They can do things that'll take us by surprise.
00:09:12.000 The China expert himself, Gordon Chang, he knows more about the CCP and the geopolitics surrounding it than anybody else.
00:09:17.000 Thank you so much, Gordon, for joining us today.
00:09:19.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:09:19.000 Thank you.
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00:10:33.000 So you rarely get to see the reshuffling of the world order in real time, but it's here.
00:10:37.000 And Russia has made a decision to go into the arms of China.
00:10:40.000 We never should have allowed that to happen.
00:10:42.000 We should have kept Russia neutral and built a coalition against China. 0.98
00:10:47.000 China has everything that Russia needed, which is dollar bills that we gave them because we buy a bunch of plastic garbage from China. 0.99
00:10:54.000 It's the new axis that has been created.
00:10:57.000 And we went from peace in the Middle East under Trump and having Israel and UAE agree on many different things to now new axis where people do whatever they want.
00:11:08.000 And this is now getting quickly out of control.
00:11:11.000 Iran is going to just basically do whatever they want. 0.95
00:11:14.000 Iran is going to enrich uranium up to 20%, even after a nuclear deal.
00:11:18.000 Iran will continue to enrich uranium from 20% purity, even after sanctions on it are lifted.
00:11:23.000 A 2015 nuclear deal with world powers is revived.
00:11:27.000 And the Iranian news agency quoted the country's nuclear chief on Friday.
00:11:32.000 Quote, uranium enrichment continues with a maximum ceiling of 60%, which led Westerners to Russia negotiations.
00:11:39.000 And it will continue with the lifting of sanctions by both 20% and 5%.
00:11:44.000 So they're going to do whatever they want.
00:11:47.000 When America is weak and we do not have a president, bad actors will do whatever they want.
00:11:53.000 Now, what should Biden do right now?
00:11:58.000 I'll tell you what a leader would do.
00:12:00.000 A leader doesn't sleep in while war is happening.
00:12:04.000 Biden had the opportunity to be a peacemaker here, and he very well could have flown to Minsk and said, I demand a meeting right now with Putin and with Zelensky, or else there will be consequences.
00:12:19.000 You think Trump would sit idly by while Putin is invading?
00:12:19.000 Trump would do that.
00:12:22.000 Of course not.
00:12:23.000 Any active president wouldn't do that.
00:12:25.000 We don't have an active president.
00:12:26.000 We have a passive president.
00:12:28.000 Let's play Cut 87.
00:12:30.000 Jam-Pack, two hours coming up, and here is a Fox News alert live look at Ukraine's capital as U.S. officials are warning that city could fall in hours to days as Putin's forces breach the city limits.
00:12:43.000 Cut 87.
00:12:45.000 The Ukrainian people need help at this hour.
00:12:48.000 They don't have a month to wait to see if sanctions will affect the behavior of Russian President Putin.
00:12:53.000 There are people dying in the streets of this country today.
00:12:56.000 And if there aren't heavier sanctions imposed on the Russians, and if this country doesn't receive more defensive weapons, it will completely fall into the hands of Russian President Putin, and it will be occupied by Russian forces.
00:13:09.000 And Biden has said, let's just let these sanctions put them in and see how they work out.
00:13:13.000 He could fly into the region right now, fly into Minsk, fly into wherever, fly into Budapest, flying to Warsaw, and demand a meeting, and all of a sudden change the entire geopolitics of all this.
00:13:26.000 The pursuit of peace is always an admirable venture, always.
00:13:32.000 And America has an opportunity to be a peacemaker of what's happening right now in Ukraine and Russia.
00:13:38.000 And it doesn't seem like we're even entertaining that.
00:13:41.000 No, instead, Hillary Clinton says we should just counter-attack Russia.
00:13:43.000 That's what we should do.
00:13:44.000 They attack Ukraine. 0.89
00:13:45.000 We should just go to war. 0.99
00:13:46.000 Hillary Clinton calls for open cyber attacks against Russia.
00:13:50.000 Play Cut 69.
00:13:52.000 There were reports overnight that anonymous, a group of hackers took down Russian TV.
00:13:59.000 I think that people who love freedom could be engaged in cyber support for those in the streets in Russia.
00:14:08.000 I think we could be also attacking a lot of the government institutions and, again, the oligarchs.
00:14:17.000 And when Biden was asked, hey, do you think there might be a nuclear strike?
00:14:20.000 This was his response.
00:14:21.000 Cut 64.
00:14:22.000 This statement that he gave last night that the threat that he gave, the West will face consequences greater than any you have faced in history.
00:14:30.000 Is he threatening a nuclear strike?
00:14:34.000 I have no idea what he's threatening.
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00:15:43.000 With us right now is Dr. Keith Rose.
00:15:45.000 He has, let's say, extensive experience in the intelligence world.
00:15:49.000 He has sources all across the planet and is someone that we are honored to call a friend.
00:15:53.000 Keith, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:15:55.000 Charlie, it's good to be here.
00:15:57.000 Keith, what's going on in Ukraine that we might be missing that you are hearing from your sources through the Intel community?
00:16:04.000 Well, Charlie, what's going on in Ukraine right now is a very well-executed plan by Putin to take that country.
00:16:13.000 And while he's doing that, at the same time, he has had people in the country before Russia ever invaded it.
00:16:23.000 I believe there are probably Speznets there, GRU, FSB, their intelligence services.
00:16:28.000 And they've been recruiting a lot of people, including teenagers in the major cities that they have been paying to protest and riot to kind of soften the city before they get there.
00:16:42.000 So tell us about Chernobyl and tell us about some of the other activity that is happening in Ukraine and something that we might be missing as far as the incursion here.
00:16:53.000 Well, there's been some very interesting activity in Chernobyl.
00:16:57.000 I've talked to a few people I know that have been on the ground there.
00:17:02.000 And they're seeing a lot of movement in and out of Chernobyl, which is normally like a tomb or a sarcophagus.
00:17:11.000 No one goes in, no one goes out.
00:17:13.000 There's no reason to.
00:17:14.000 Yet, since Russia invaded, there have been Russian helicopters and trucks.
00:17:19.000 We don't know what they're doing, but we know they're there and we know they're going in and out of that area.
00:17:25.000 And that area is full of nuclear weapon precursors.
00:17:29.000 You have plutonium.
00:17:31.000 You have a lot of nuclear material that you don't want anyone running around with.
00:17:39.000 So I think that at least someone needs to ask the question, not only here in this country, but on the international stage and ask Russia what they're doing.
00:17:49.000 Yeah, so what are you hearing from your sources and seeing on the ground?
00:17:52.000 What is the Russian endgame here? 0.86
00:17:54.000 Because it seems to be irrational in many different ways.
00:17:58.000 What's really going on here?
00:17:59.000 Well, Charlie, to understand what's going on now, you really need to look back at Putin and why and what he's doing.
00:18:05.000 Putin was not happy.
00:18:07.000 I mean, Putin was KGB prior to the wall falling and the Soviet Union breaking apart.
00:18:15.000 And he worked his way to the presidency.
00:18:17.000 He's been president basically for life the last 20 years.
00:18:20.000 And he's always said, I want to get Ukraine back. 0.88
00:18:23.000 Ukraine has a lot of natural resources.
00:18:26.000 And more importantly, it's a large producer of food.
00:18:31.000 It's a place that Russia really needs and wants.
00:18:35.000 Putin has always wanted it.
00:18:36.000 If you understand that, you understand Putin's personality and his personality is he doesn't want to be his fears to be taken advantage of.
00:18:43.000 He feels like when they gave up Ukraine, he was taken advantage of.
00:18:47.000 So then fast forward, 2014, Obama's president, Putin says he's going to go there and he goes there and he takes Crimea.
00:18:55.000 Now, President Trump comes in then.
00:18:58.000 He doesn't do anything.
00:18:59.000 President Biden comes back in and he goes ahead and reinvades the country.
00:19:03.000 He wrote a 5,000-word paper talking about how he was going to do this.
00:19:07.000 And I think one of the biggest mistakes that we made as a country and NATO made on foreign policy is we gave Putin the fig leaf to invade Ukraine.
00:19:18.000 He always wanted to.
00:19:19.000 And the reason he's using is, I don't want them to become part of NATO because then I would have NATO at my border.
00:19:27.000 And while we talked about it in our nation and while NATO talked about it, it was never a thing.
00:19:32.000 It was never going to happen.
00:19:34.000 And the mere fact that the Biden administration implied that Zelensky and Ukraine could possibly be a member of NATO gave President Putin the fig leaf in the world's eyes to go ahead and invade.
00:19:49.000 And now we have a real problem.
00:19:50.000 You have Chernobyl. 0.82
00:19:52.000 You have the countries going to fall.
00:19:54.000 Right now, Kiev is under siege.
00:19:57.000 I just got that report right before I came on air.
00:20:00.000 And so they're doing everything they can to take Ukraine. 0.98
00:20:04.000 They have the fig leaf with the international community.
00:20:07.000 And now you have India talking about supporting Russia to help them around the sanctions.
00:20:12.000 And we are not doing anything as a nation to stop Russia as far as sanctions that would be effective as far as opening our natural resources here, which could cut off a huge economic supply to Russia because they really don't have the ability to wage a prolonged incursion. 0.53
00:20:31.000 So how much fight do you think the Ukrainians have in them? 1.00
00:20:34.000 How long do you think this conflict will last?
00:20:36.000 Because if it's not just kind of a, if it takes a week or two weeks or three weeks to take over Kiev, they're saying it could happen in days, but then what?
00:20:43.000 What if there are millions of Ukrainians in the woods and in the rural parts of Ukraine that aren't going to live under this?
00:20:50.000 This potentially could get very messy.
00:20:52.000 It could if we look at it from the optics of how we fought in Afghanistan, how we were handcuffed in Afghanistan.
00:21:00.000 If they take over Ukraine, I think they'll take it over fairly quickly. 0.74
00:21:05.000 The Russians don't play by any rules. 1.00
00:21:08.000 They've moved fast.
00:21:09.000 They've moved with great precision.
00:21:10.000 I'm sure they had a lot of their special forces.
00:21:13.000 The Speznets were already there. 1.00
00:21:15.000 GRU, their military intelligence people, were already there.
00:21:19.000 My understanding is they're hunting Zelensky and his family.
00:21:22.000 And what most likely we're going to see is a setup where you have a government in exile.
00:21:28.000 Now, will the Ukrainians fight?
00:21:29.000 They don't have much to fight with because back when we had the opportunity to arm them in 2014, the Obama administration, the Obidin, that's a Freudian slip, would not give them lethal aid.
00:21:44.000 And then when President Trump was in, there was no reason to.
00:21:48.000 And now you have the situation where we could have armed them and we could have given them the support that they needed.
00:21:54.000 So I don't know if they have the ability to wage a prolonged incursion.
00:21:58.000 They might if Russia shows great restraint, if Russia just has a large military industrial complex that wants to build bases and pass out contracts and make money.
00:22:09.000 But since I don't think they have the financial resources for that in their country, they're going to have to move quickly, move fast, replace the government, and move on.
00:22:21.000 And we're in a unique position right now in our nation because our allies don't trust us and our enemies don't fear us.
00:22:29.000 And so you have India helping Russia or at least helping them financially potentially by helping them skirt sanctions, which would have never happened before.
00:22:39.000 But then, of course, we left Afghanistan abruptly, put Pakistan in charge, and India and Pakistan are not exactly friends.
00:22:47.000 Yeah, so that was my final question.
00:22:48.000 I wanted to ask you, Keith, is how much did the Afghanistan debacle, the way that we handled that withdrawal, play into what we're seeing right now in Ukraine?
00:22:56.000 Charlie, the Afghanistan debacle laid the foundation for the complete implosion of not only the Biden administration's foreign policy, but it also opened the door for a lot of countries to become aggressive and to recognize that we have a real problem in our own country.
00:23:18.000 Basically, we supported the Afghans for almost two decades, and then we left them high and dry, but we left $80 plus billion dollars of lethal aid there.
00:23:29.000 We did that.
00:23:30.000 Pakistan filled the vacuum. 1.00
00:23:31.000 You have Siraj Hakani as their defense minister, who is a proxy for the ISIS directorate.
00:23:37.000 And the Indians, India knows this, and they see what happened.
00:23:42.000 So one of our best allies with over a billion people watched us walk away from an ally and leave lethal aid that the country that they are actually fighting in Kashmir, they got that lethal aid.
00:23:57.000 So India sees it.
00:23:59.000 China sees it.
00:23:59.000 You're having incursions into Taiwan airspace.
00:24:02.000 And again, I can't state this enough.
00:24:05.000 When your allies don't trust you and your enemies don't fear you, that sets the stage for people to get their inner Maduro on or their inner Mussolini on.
00:24:16.000 And you see tyrants move or you see large nation states take territory because they know that right now America is a paper tiger, unless, of course, you were involved in January 6th, and then you got to be very careful.
00:24:31.000 But we seem to be so focused on clamping down on free speech and misinformation by their definition in our nation.
00:24:42.000 And there are very real world consequences to this.
00:24:45.000 And we're seeing this play out right now in Ukraine.
00:24:48.000 And we may see it play out in Taiwan.
00:24:51.000 It's just, it's hard to watch.
00:24:52.000 And so in closing here, Keith, the U.S. response will probably be nothing.
00:24:57.000 And I don't think troops are the answer.
00:24:58.000 And you agree with that.
00:25:00.000 And so I suppose we're watching this kind of new axis created between Russia and China.
00:25:04.000 Is that the new state of affairs globally?
00:25:07.000 It's the new state of affairs, Charlie, if and only if we have inaction as far as real policy that we could push right now.
00:25:18.000 If the United States suddenly pivots, opens up our energy sector, opens up drilling, opens up fracking, opens up the production of oil and liquefied natural gas, increases our export to Europe, we could use this moment to immediately reduce Russia's ability to expand their power by shutting them down economically. 0.78
00:25:45.000 We could have done this back with the Kurds opening up the Ambar, the Ambar fields and running a pipeline from Kurdistan into Europe would have hurt Russia too. 0.94
00:25:53.000 But Russia's always been two steps ahead of us on the chessboard. 0.98
00:25:57.000 But this would be a time to do something they wouldn't expect, like take the foot off the energy sector in America, open that up.
00:26:05.000 And then we also need to clean up some of these foreign policies that we currently have around the world.
00:26:13.000 And the first I think we can do.
00:26:15.000 The second, I don't believe right now in leadership we have it in the DOD and in this administration to do the necessary changes that could help that.
00:26:26.000 Keith, always a pleasure to have you on.
00:26:27.000 Thank you for your clarity and your wisdom.
00:26:29.000 We really appreciate it.
00:26:30.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:26:31.000 God bless.
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00:27:53.000 I'm watching video after video of Ukrainian citizens get in line and try to figure out what a firearm is.
00:28:01.000 I'm actually here at Big Daddy Unlimited Guns here in Gainesville, Florida, a great Second Amendment supply company.
00:28:09.000 And as you watch these Ukrainian citizens, I'm laughing because they really have no idea how to handle a firearm. 1.00
00:28:16.000 It really makes you appreciate the wisdom of the founding fathers and to take a step backwards and to say, wait a second, if Ukraine had a robust Second Amendment, would Putin invade?
00:28:33.000 This is a very legitimate question.
00:28:36.000 I'm not saying this tongue-in-cheek.
00:28:37.000 Would Putin have invaded Ukraine if Ukraine had widespread gun ownership and a skilled citizenry that knew how to use those guns?
00:28:47.000 If the 45 million people of Ukraine were able to own weapons and had a gun culture similar to America, would Putin feel emboldened to invade that country?
00:28:57.000 Ukraine does not have a Second Amendment like we do in America, highly controlled firearms.
00:29:02.000 We could look into the specifics of it, but they do not have widespread gun ownership.
00:29:07.000 There are cars and trucks arriving full of weapons for citizens, and they're pulling out these guns and they're trying to figure out how to use them.
00:29:15.000 I was just thinking, man, if a hypothetical, if Mexico or Canada decided to try to invade America, there'd be millions of people that would immediately have lots of weapons at their home and they would know how to use them.
00:29:27.000 They'd be familiar with them.
00:29:28.000 They'd be comfortable with them.
00:29:29.000 So it's one thing to have the willingness to fight.
00:29:31.000 A lot of Ukrainians right now have the willingness to fight Vladimir Putin, but they don't have the capacity to fight. 0.64
00:29:38.000 And the second amendment has so many different implications.
00:29:42.000 It's helpful for self-defense, but it was really built to be able to protect freedom and liberty against usurpatious and tyrannical governments.
00:29:49.000 Now, the Ukrainian government is super corrupt.
00:29:51.000 It's not like they're the greatest country ever. 0.85
00:29:54.000 What's happened to them is awful.
00:29:55.000 And what's happening to the Ukrainian people is even worse.
00:29:58.000 My heart goes out to the Ukrainian people.
00:29:59.000 The Ukrainian government's really corrupt and has made a lot of mistakes.
00:30:02.000 Not a fan of Zelensky, but I do think he's actually standing in pretty brave for the situation, all things being equal.
00:30:08.000 He's no, what is the guy?
00:30:10.000 Ghani.
00:30:11.000 He's no Ghani who just fled.
00:30:13.000 However, it reminds me of this quote by Isoroku Yamamoto, who was one of the most famous generals of the Imperial Project of Japan.
00:30:23.000 He said, quote, you cannot invade the mainland of the United States.
00:30:27.000 There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.
00:30:31.000 Isoroko Yamamoto was a Japanese Marshal Admiral of the Imperial Japanese Navy and was the commander-in-chief of the Combined Fleet of World War II until his death.
00:30:39.000 And so I think this is a question, which is, if America really wanted to help Ukraine, why didn't we try to have widespread gun ownership in Ukraine?
00:30:49.000 I don't know if that would have helped anything.
00:30:51.000 Putin might have just rolled his eyes and be like, yeah, okay, whatever peasant, you have a gun, I don't care.
00:30:54.000 Or maybe it might have made a difference.
00:30:55.000 We know it did with Japan's own writings.
00:30:59.000 If Ukraine would have at least been allowed to have widespread gun ownership, but again, remember the people who were running the Ukrainian desk?
00:31:05.000 It was people like John Kerry and Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton who don't believe in anyone to be able to own weapons except their own armed guards.
00:31:14.000 So now Ukraine has a pretty weak military compared to Russia.
00:31:18.000 They're doing everything they possibly can to hold the line.
00:31:20.000 They're trying to train people how to use weapons.
00:31:22.000 It's kind of a mess and a circus.
00:31:25.000 And but remember, it was a citizen-led revolution that helped topple the Soviet Union.
00:31:30.000 And it makes you think that the principle of the Second Amendment very well could have been a fundamental point of keeping Ukraine sovereign and protect the citizens.
00:31:41.000 Be very thankful we have a Second Amendment, everybody.
00:31:45.000 It is something that is a bulwark and a hedge and a firewall against any form of tyranny.
00:31:52.000 If people are not able to defend themselves, if you do not have the capacity or the technology to be able to defend what you love personally, not just civilizationally, then you're inherently less free.
00:32:03.000 You are then held hostage to the person who has the guns.
00:32:09.000 Ukraine could have converted their entire citizenry into a standing army.
00:32:12.000 They're trying to do that right now.
00:32:14.000 And it makes you think: why didn't you give people the liberty, the freedom to do that previously?
00:32:18.000 If they were so worried about Putin invading for the last 20 years, which is all we're told, oh, yeah, Ukraine was worried, why didn't they allow the people of Ukraine to have a Second Amendment?
00:32:26.000 Oh, maybe because the government of Ukraine was also super corrupt and they didn't want the people to own guns because they wanted to control those people.
00:32:31.000 There's your answer.
00:32:34.000 They really wanted to protect against Putin.
00:32:36.000 They should have trusted their citizens with freedom and liberty.
00:32:39.000 But they didn't because the government of Ukraine was corrupt and they didn't want them to own weapons either because they might have been displaced or toppled.
00:32:46.000 Keep people obedient.
00:32:47.000 And now Ukraine will likely be taken over by whoever has more guns and more power.
00:32:55.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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