The Charlie Kirk Show - December 13, 2021


A Next Generation Conservative with "Based" Blake Masters


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Blake Masters is running for a U.S. Senate seat in Arizona and we're here to talk to him about why he's running and why he thinks it's the most important race in the country. He talks about his background in tech, family, and culture, and how he thinks about the state.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody, we're continuing with our series of people running for office that we think that we want you to learn about.
00:00:05.000 And in Arizona, we're interviewing all the Senate candidates.
00:00:07.000 Friend of mine, Blake Masters, is running for the United States Senate seat in Arizona.
00:00:11.000 Based Blake is what we call him.
00:00:14.000 And we're not endorsing an Arizona Senate race.
00:00:16.000 We have a lot of good friends all over the race, but Blake's a good man.
00:00:20.000 I think you'll really enjoy hearing from him.
00:00:22.000 And he understands the tech issue, the family issue, and the culture issue better than anyone else.
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00:01:34.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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00:02:07.000 Hey everybody, welcome to the episode.
00:02:08.000 This episode of the Charlie Kirk Show with us today is a friend of mine, someone i've known for quite a while.
00:02:12.000 He's a great American patriot and he's running for senate in Arizona.
00:02:17.000 We've had him on before.
00:02:18.000 Can't wait to explore these ideas further.
00:02:20.000 Blake Masters, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show.
00:02:22.000 Thank you Charlie, great to be here.
00:02:23.000 How's the trail going?
00:02:24.000 I'm actually having fun.
00:02:24.000 It's fun.
00:02:25.000 I think you can tell which candidates are having fun and which candidates are going through the motions.
00:02:30.000 What do you enjoy most about it?
00:02:32.000 Um, cliche as it sounds, just like meeting voters, meeting people and people.
00:02:36.000 Actually, it's really interesting.
00:02:37.000 Like after just three or four minutes of conversation um, you know, if people feel like they like me and trust me, they open up to me with stories.
00:02:45.000 You know my kid od'd um and I was in a dark place and you know it's Republican Party activism becoming a precinct committee man, that kind of put me, you know, like these stories.
00:02:54.000 Or my kid was shot in Afghanistan and is recovering and it's like it gets actually pretty emotional sometimes.
00:02:59.000 But just meeting people and and it's um, it's a real blessing to be able to do this.
00:03:03.000 Arizona is an awesome state.
00:03:04.000 It's my home state, your home state.
00:03:06.000 What do you think makes Arizona a unique kind of uh place Not just to live and all that, but kind of where America is right now.
00:03:15.000 It's somewhat split 50, 50 down the middle.
00:03:18.000 Almost every crisis has kind of come home to Arizona.
00:03:21.000 Immigration, tech, schools.
00:03:24.000 Yeah, it's fascinating too.
00:03:26.000 I mean, I feel like this is, I'm biased, but I think this is the most important Senate race, Arizona, 2022.
00:03:31.000 I mean, I totally agree.
00:03:32.000 That in Georgia.
00:03:33.000 Sure.
00:03:33.000 In the country.
00:03:35.000 Arizona is more important.
00:03:36.000 Arizona is more important.
00:03:36.000 For you.
00:03:38.000 And I think as goes Arizona.
00:03:40.000 Totally.
00:03:41.000 As goes the country, right?
00:03:42.000 It's the bellwether.
00:03:43.000 It's a real swing state.
00:03:44.000 You know, we have this huge interesting history, right?
00:03:47.000 Rich sort of conservative, maybe populist libertarian history.
00:03:50.000 This is the state of Goldwater, right?
00:03:52.000 And it's the Wild, Wild West.
00:03:54.000 So many people, like I grew up here, but I'm not quite from here.
00:03:56.000 We moved to Arizona when I was four, but most people aren't from Arizona.
00:04:00.000 You meet like a lot of seventh generation Arizonans, but then a lot of people who came here in the last 10, 20 years.
00:04:04.000 And so it's this, it's this real reflective mix of America and which way do we want to go here?
00:04:10.000 So I find that fascinating, but also dangerous.
00:04:13.000 Because like if we become California, right, then I think the whole country becomes California.
00:04:17.000 So I have a good friend who's in real estate and he owns apartments.
00:04:22.000 Do you know the average rent has gone up 33% in Phoenix the last year?
00:04:28.000 People are moving here from all across the country.
00:04:30.000 And that kind of is then a stress test.
00:04:33.000 Not just from an infrastructure standpoint, which I think actually Arizona's infrastructure is okay.
00:04:37.000 It's not awful.
00:04:38.000 Could be better.
00:04:39.000 But also from a political standpoint.
00:04:42.000 Like, what's the future of Arizona going to be?
00:04:44.000 Yeah.
00:04:44.000 Well, I meet so many people from California, right?
00:04:46.000 California refugees, I call them.
00:04:48.000 Some are conservative.
00:04:49.000 And some are conservative, right?
00:04:50.000 Because people forget there's a lot of conservatives in California.
00:04:52.000 That's right.
00:04:52.000 It's not only Democrats.
00:04:54.000 And look, it may be 30 or 40%.
00:04:56.000 So it's an electoral minority.
00:04:57.000 You get demolished in elections, whatever.
00:04:58.000 It's a one-party state.
00:04:59.000 But the conservatives there really are active and they move here and they register as PCs and it's all good.
00:05:05.000 And so I welcome them if they remember why they came.
00:05:07.000 But I also meet a lot of people who come from California, also refugees.
00:05:11.000 And I'm like, why'd you come?
00:05:12.000 And they say, well, the heroin needles were, you know, it's just getting a little much for me to find these things on the sidewalk and the homeless encampments were encroaching on my kids' school and taxes were sky.
00:05:21.000 So I say, great.
00:05:22.000 So you're going to be active in the Republican Party.
00:05:23.000 You're going to help me get elected.
00:05:24.000 And they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:05:26.000 I'm a Democrat.
00:05:27.000 And it's like, what are you doing?
00:05:28.000 So I don't know which way it breaks.
00:05:29.000 Yes.
00:05:30.000 But I'm cautiously optimistic, at least with our activism, that we can remind people why they left.
00:05:35.000 And part of what makes your candidacy different is you know how to use the Facebook.
00:05:41.000 The Facebook.
00:05:42.000 Well, you know, the internet, Charlie, is a series of tubes.
00:05:45.000 Did Al Gore put them together?
00:05:47.000 He invented them.
00:05:47.000 I'm joking because one of my favorite memes ever was seeing one of the old bulls in the Senate, like Chuck Grassley or whatever.
00:05:55.000 Yeah.
00:05:56.000 Basically, and they didn't say it, but they were asking Mark Zuckerberg if they could unlock their phone.
00:06:00.000 Right.
00:06:00.000 Yeah.
00:06:01.000 Yeah.
00:06:01.000 So my staff tells me the Facebook.
00:06:04.000 Yes.
00:06:04.000 But all kidding aside, you would be one of the youngest senators ever, if not the youngest senator ever.
00:06:09.000 You're right near there, right?
00:06:10.000 Close.
00:06:11.000 Yeah.
00:06:12.000 And, but you would also be prepared to actually talk about some of these incredibly complex yet important tech issues that honestly confuse most U.S. senators.
00:06:26.000 Right.
00:06:26.000 And you see it.
00:06:27.000 You see it in these hearings that you're talking about.
00:06:28.000 You get Zuckerberg on the hot seat and it's like, what an opportunity that is.
00:06:32.000 Totally.
00:06:32.000 And then just they flop.
00:06:34.000 And like Hawley does a great job.
00:06:36.000 Holly, it's Cotton.
00:06:37.000 Even Ted Cruz gets in the good questions.
00:06:39.000 It's the younger ones, actually.
00:06:40.000 But the older ones, it's just there's a lot of, there's a language barrier too, though, right?
00:06:44.000 Right.
00:06:44.000 Where just from what is an algorithm to kind of social media manipulation, a lot of it, it would be as if I was sitting on some sort of hearing around some sort of super wonky, like pharmaceutical issue.
00:06:56.000 Right.
00:06:57.000 And I would be confusing kind of like proteins to gene sequencing, right?
00:07:01.000 Right.
00:07:02.000 It's just not.
00:07:03.000 And there is a sense in which if you don't have the basic vocabulary, then like you're not, God help you.
00:07:07.000 You're not.
00:07:07.000 That's a really important point, though, isn't it?
00:07:09.000 It's a, you could call it a starting point.
00:07:11.000 Yeah.
00:07:12.000 Yeah.
00:07:13.000 So, no, a lot of work to do.
00:07:14.000 And some of this stuff is complex.
00:07:15.000 Some isn't, like the censorship issue.
00:07:17.000 I think a lot isn't.
00:07:18.000 It's pretty simple.
00:07:19.000 They ripped President Trump off these platforms while he was president.
00:07:22.000 That should be illegal.
00:07:23.000 You can treat them as common carriers.
00:07:24.000 Like, that's not a technologically innovative solution.
00:07:26.000 That just takes political will.
00:07:28.000 I think we know how to do that.
00:07:29.000 But what do you do when Facebook is, yeah, basically serving targeted advertising to teenagers and kind of addicting?
00:07:35.000 You know, you see, they have the data on what it does to teenage women and their brains, and it makes them more depressed and suicidal to have the endless scroll feed, right?
00:07:43.000 It's manipulating them in these ways that are very profitable for Facebook, but very bad for the children involved.
00:07:48.000 And regulating that the right way is probably going to be harder, right?
00:07:52.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:07:52.000 I'm saying the R-word, regulation, which some Republicans don't want to say.
00:07:56.000 Right.
00:07:56.000 Which I appreciate.
00:07:58.000 So Da Nang Dick, who's from Connecticut, Richard Blumenthal.
00:08:02.000 Okay.
00:08:02.000 Right?
00:08:03.000 Never served in Vietnam.
00:08:04.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:08:04.000 Total liar. 0.99
00:08:05.000 I was working out and he came on Anderson Coop. 0.75
00:08:08.000 He came on Cuomo's old show, Wolf Blitzer, was hosting.
00:08:11.000 R.I.P. Cuomo, yeah.
00:08:12.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:08:12.000 Very sad.
00:08:13.000 What a loss to the American project. 0.80
00:08:16.000 And so here's Richard Blumenthal, and the Chiron is super interesting, which is that we can no longer trust Facebook.
00:08:23.000 So I went back and I found the clip.
00:08:25.000 Basically, Richard Blumenthal was saying, we now have to regulate Facebook because of some of the stuff you said.
00:08:32.000 Now, of course, but there's a different agenda when Richard Blumenthal wants to regulate.
00:08:37.000 Can you talk a little bit about that?
00:08:38.000 Well, and like I permitted myself to be cautiously optimistic about Lena Khan being appointed to the FTC, right? 0.95
00:08:44.000 It's like she'd written some intelligent things about maybe we need to restrain some of these companies.
00:08:49.000 And look, I'm not naive.
00:08:51.000 I'm not like some, let's work in a bipartisan fashion.
00:08:54.000 I think you can't work with most Democrats, but I'm happy to work with Democrats if they're actually going to be commonsensical and reasonable.
00:08:59.000 So I'm like, maybe there was some sort of left-right alliance on meaningfully restraining big tech.
00:09:04.000 And I've just come to believe so far, no, the left wants to hold the antitrust threat out over Facebook to extract compliance.
00:09:11.000 Yes.
00:09:11.000 Right.
00:09:11.000 It's like Facebook, we will break you up if you don't take out that and that and that piece of COVID misinformation from your platform, right?
00:09:18.000 So Facebook plays along and you get this sort of fusion of I think left-wing corporate power with the Biden administration.
00:09:24.000 We just call that fascism.
00:09:26.000 They don't want to call it that anymore, but that's basically what it is, right?
00:09:29.000 And so I don't think the left is meaningfully serious about restraining these companies for the benefit of the normal American.
00:09:35.000 They just want to co-opt these companies to become Democrat super PAC public utilities.
00:09:40.000 That's right.
00:09:40.000 Which they basically are.
00:09:41.000 Which they already are, but they're not enough to them.
00:09:43.000 That's right.
00:09:43.000 The fact that Charlie Kirk still has a Facebook account is a threat to democracy.
00:09:50.000 Capital D.
00:09:51.000 And if the threat to democracy goes unchallenged, then we must do something about it.
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00:10:49.000 And so when Richard Blumenthal goes on CNN and starts to bash Facebook, he's not doing that because he wants Facebook to become a free and open platform or Facebook to actually become a place where you and I can talk.
00:11:02.000 He wants it for it to become a one-party utility, even more so than it already is.
00:11:06.000 That's right.
00:11:06.000 And that's an important distinction, right?
00:11:08.000 Because when you say that we want to restrain Facebook, you actually don't want, you actually would love to break it up.
00:11:14.000 I think it would be phenomenal to break up these companies.
00:11:17.000 They don't go as far to do that.
00:11:18.000 They want the threat of that to get what they want.
00:11:20.000 That's right.
00:11:21.000 Nope.
00:11:21.000 That's exactly right.
00:11:22.000 And that's why I don't think we can work with them on it.
00:11:25.000 This is why I think we need a real majority.
00:11:27.000 Do you think that the Republican Party is there as far as the voters?
00:11:32.000 Let's start there to restrain the corporate oligarchy, especially in the tech space. 0.61
00:11:37.000 Yes.
00:11:38.000 The voters are.
00:11:38.000 So you're traveling a lot.
00:11:39.000 I speak to a lot of voters.
00:11:40.000 You speak to a lot of voters.
00:11:41.000 Talk about that.
00:11:42.000 Well, I mean, I tell people, like, look, I'm a pro-market guy.
00:11:45.000 Like, I have this sort of libertarian, you know, classic background.
00:11:49.000 Like, I was deep in the Austrian school in college, right?
00:11:51.000 Like, we're into this stuff.
00:11:52.000 We don't want to regulate it.
00:11:54.000 Was.
00:11:54.000 Yeah.
00:11:54.000 I mean, I'm sympathetic.
00:11:55.000 I think it's important to start.
00:11:56.000 And some of it's really interesting.
00:11:58.000 Some of it's really interesting.
00:11:59.000 A lot of it's sort of directionally right.
00:12:01.000 And then I think it's the right place to start from.
00:12:03.000 And then you inch towards like looking at how is it actually working with prudence.
00:12:06.000 Exactly.
00:12:07.000 With prudence.
00:12:08.000 And I tell people, like, when I invest in a startup, I want it to do well.
00:12:13.000 I don't want to regulate businesses willy-nilly.
00:12:14.000 I don't even mind if a company becomes big.
00:12:16.000 If Caterpillar, the tractor company, wants to like buy another tractor company for $50 billion and merge, like great.
00:12:21.000 As long as they're not going to like, you know, jack up the prices.
00:12:25.000 That's great.
00:12:25.000 But it's especially big tech.
00:12:27.000 And it's, you know, these huge multinationals that control the flow of information.
00:12:31.000 And I'm sorry, but like when these companies have left-wing politics, they're censoring sitting presidents.
00:12:36.000 They're, I think, engaging in all sorts of election interference.
00:12:39.000 When they do that, we have to be able to treat them differently than like a local bakery or local hair salon. 0.93
00:12:43.000 Yes.
00:12:43.000 And that's still pro-market.
00:12:45.000 It's precisely because you want markets to be free and open that you need to break some of these companies up.
00:12:50.000 Well, markets are supposed to serve us.
00:12:51.000 We don't serve markets.
00:12:52.000 That's right.
00:12:53.000 Yeah.
00:12:53.000 They're tools for human flourishing.
00:12:54.000 They're not the end-all.
00:12:55.000 And too much of the Republican Party, of course, is always just focused on GDP.
00:12:58.000 And we have to sacrifice ourselves so that we can hit some sort of number on a chart.
00:13:02.000 Right.
00:13:02.000 And the byproduct of that, just, I mean, the tech space, it's so obvious, is that you have tech companies that are worth more than ever before that are doing so much damage and they're largely untouchable.
00:13:12.000 They're basically governments of themselves.
00:13:14.000 Yep.
00:13:14.000 More powerful than most national governments.
00:13:17.000 And so the voters are there.
00:13:18.000 Voters are there and they get it.
00:13:20.000 They get it.
00:13:20.000 They're like, and I think they're happy to have a messenger and me and like a candidate who's getting up and saying like, no, I'm pro-business, but this is out of hand.
00:13:28.000 Of course.
00:13:29.000 And that's just common sense.
00:13:30.000 Do you think the Republican Party is there?
00:13:31.000 Not quite.
00:13:32.000 Or that's the battle.
00:13:33.000 What are you hearing or seeing?
00:13:34.000 Or what's your I think there's a whole lot of establishment forces in the Republican Party that just want to go back to Paul Ryanism.
00:13:40.000 What is Paul Ryanism for you?
00:13:41.000 Just as long as you have a corporate tax cut, you don't need anything else in your platform.
00:13:45.000 Don't talk about any social issues.
00:13:47.000 Those are unpopular.
00:13:48.000 People just want high GDP and low tax cuts, and that's it.
00:13:51.000 And I think that is, you're basically just controlled opposition for the left at that point.
00:13:56.000 You're an ostrich with your head buried in the sand, and it doesn't work.
00:14:00.000 That's actually not what voters care about.
00:14:02.000 I mean, I want low taxes.
00:14:04.000 Sure.
00:14:04.000 But I'd rather have a country.
00:14:06.000 I'd rather have a country.
00:14:07.000 And maybe we can have a country and low taxes.
00:14:10.000 My God.
00:14:10.000 We need a country first, though.
00:14:11.000 Yeah, country first.
00:14:12.000 We're a country that has an economy in it.
00:14:14.000 Yep.
00:14:14.000 We're not an economy that has a country in it.
00:14:17.000 Totally right.
00:14:17.000 Two totally different things.
00:14:18.000 Totally right.
00:14:19.000 We're a people, a tradition, a history, a culture, not just a bunch of people that are trading products.
00:14:24.000 Like, oh, yeah, the flag, that's nice.
00:14:26.000 The economy is a byproduct of civil society, actually.
00:14:29.000 Right.
00:14:29.000 It's the economy is something that we get to participate in if you have a country first and foremost.
00:14:34.000 So I want to ask you, there's a lot of different issues out there.
00:14:39.000 What do you think are first and foremost on the voters' minds as you travel Arizona?
00:14:42.000 Border, border security.
00:14:44.000 People are just, I mean, I tell people it's the biggest crime scene in the country, biggest crime scene.
00:14:49.000 Joe Biden just created it.
00:14:50.000 It's 225,000 people coming here illegally, right?
00:14:52.000 Just in Arizona.
00:14:53.000 Just in Arizona.
00:14:55.000 So, I mean, we spend a lot of time talking about the border, even though, again, the solution there is not innovative.
00:15:01.000 It's just like finish the wall, reimplement all the old trust policies.
00:15:06.000 And we should, yeah, have new technology stuff, triple on reconnaissance, triple the size of Border Patrol, but like, it's just do it.
00:15:10.000 Like, it takes the will.
00:15:12.000 We know how to do it.
00:15:13.000 We just need to do it.
00:15:14.000 Other things, I mean, obviously, like where to start, right?
00:15:18.000 Inflation is going out of control.
00:15:20.000 Vaccine mandates, everybody's up in arms about that for good cause, right?
00:15:24.000 It appears that we at least have a reprieve now.
00:15:26.000 The federal courts are finding those unconstitutional, putting stays on those, but it's kind of everything, honestly.
00:15:32.000 So you add up all these issues, and I quickly, in like, you know, the campaign talks, get to this meta-issue where we're just losing the country.
00:15:39.000 Like, the left has taken over every single institution in our country, even formerly neutral ones, like the military or the FBI, DOJ.
00:15:46.000 I mean, these things have been like weaponized against, I think, like average Americans.
00:15:51.000 It's really dangerous.
00:15:52.000 And I think if we don't get them back in the next two or three years, it's all over.
00:15:55.000 And so part of it is that we need people that are willing to go to D.C. and not just write letters, but actually reframe what Republicans are supposed to be.
00:16:04.000 Is that right?
00:16:04.000 Yep.
00:16:05.000 Absolutely.
00:16:05.000 Which is a legitimate opposition party to every institution now being controlled by diversity, equity, inclusion, wokeism, whatever.
00:16:13.000 Yep.
00:16:14.000 That's it.
00:16:15.000 And I'm not naive.
00:16:15.000 I know that's going to be really hard.
00:16:17.000 And people say, like, so when I, when I finish speaking on the campaign trail, people say, like, Blake, that sounds great.
00:16:22.000 And, and, okay, you're the guy, but like, you're one vote, you're one vote in the Senate.
00:16:27.000 How do we fix this?
00:16:28.000 And I'm sympathetic to that because like I am one vote in the Senate.
00:16:30.000 I can't just like legislate unilaterally.
00:16:32.000 Like, that's the constitutional design, right?
00:16:34.000 For better or worse, and mostly for better.
00:16:36.000 But I also tell people you got to get a new generation.
00:16:40.000 You've got to get people in there who understand that we're playing for all the marbles.
00:16:43.000 We're playing for the future of the country.
00:16:44.000 And so I spend a lot of time talking about cultural issues or talking about the unfair treatment of the January 6th protesters.
00:16:51.000 Contrast that with the people who were burning down police precincts in the summer 2020, the left-wing Antifa people who did not get arrested.
00:16:58.000 And if they did get arrested, then Kamala Harris was right there to bail them out of jail, right?
00:17:01.000 Like this two-tier justice system.
00:17:03.000 We are very close to losing it all.
00:17:05.000 And yeah, it's going to be hard for me as one senator to get in and clean up the FBI.
00:17:09.000 And I think 2022 and 2024, they go together, right?
00:17:12.000 Unfortunately, when I take office in January 23, we'll still be playing defense a little bit because Joe Biden or whatever, Harris, maybe they have their regime will be in power and it'll take until 2024, January 25, to get a strong Republican back in the White House.
00:17:28.000 But we just have to start playing offense and take back these institutions.
00:17:31.000 And it takes oversight, too.
00:17:33.000 Yeah, it takes oversight.
00:17:34.000 It takes wisdom, responsibility, and mainly courage.
00:17:36.000 It's like people go to D.C.
00:17:38.000 And look, I know D.C. is going to try to get its hooks into me.
00:17:40.000 You know, I know they'll try to compromise me right away.
00:17:42.000 This is how it works.
00:17:43.000 You want a long career in D.C., you fall in line.
00:17:47.000 You just go along to get along.
00:17:49.000 And I'm in a privileged position, frankly, where I like, I don't have to do that.
00:17:53.000 And I think I've just seen decades of that.
00:17:55.000 And it leads to this point where we're about to lose the country.
00:17:57.000 So I have no interest in doing that.
00:17:58.000 And I intend to find out how much one person in opposition can actually do.
00:18:02.000 Yeah.
00:18:03.000 And maybe more than one.
00:18:04.000 JD's also running.
00:18:05.000 You get me and JD in.
00:18:06.000 Josh Hawley's already there.
00:18:08.000 Tom Cotton.
00:18:08.000 I think Senator Cruz's politics have gotten better.
00:18:10.000 Like we have a good and cohort.
00:18:12.000 Rand Paul's been great on the foul.
00:18:13.000 Rand Paul's great, right?
00:18:14.000 So many things.
00:18:15.000 Especially also civil surveillance.
00:18:17.000 He's probably been the best.
00:18:18.000 Yep.
00:18:18.000 Like as far as spying on people.
00:18:20.000 And there's coalitions, right?
00:18:21.000 Coalitions.
00:18:22.000 And so you can imagine five or six people.
00:18:23.000 Cotton on the war stuff might not be as good as Rand, but you know what I mean.
00:18:27.000 All of a sudden, you can snowball and you can change the balance of power.
00:18:31.000 There's a new sheriff in town, right?
00:18:32.000 Because if you ask an average American, name five U.S. senators, it'd be like Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, like Mike Lee, Josh Hawley, right?
00:18:38.000 Maybe Marco Rubio and maybe McConnell.
00:18:41.000 But like there's kind of that middle cohort of like the old bulls that really they don't say much.
00:18:45.000 They don't go on TV much.
00:18:46.000 They don't really move public opinion.
00:18:49.000 They're good guys and they it would work in a high trust country that would work in a 1950s America.
00:18:56.000 It doesn't work when you have a progressive onslaught and the left is just capturing.
00:19:00.000 And I don't think any of I think some of them are nice people. 0.94
00:19:02.000 Some of them are super corrupt.
00:19:03.000 But the nice people, some of whom have, you know, joined our program, and I try my best to, you know, be respectful, but still firm, is like, I don't think they realize we're kind of on war footing domestically.
00:19:12.000 Right.
00:19:13.000 And I don't use that as like, you know, civil war, but you know what I mean?
00:19:17.000 No, and David Brooks just wrote this column and I lashed out a little bit on Twitter about it.
00:19:21.000 But he wrote this column bemoaning the lost conservatism.
00:19:24.000 Like, I fell in love with conservatism as a young man, as like a gentleman.
00:19:27.000 And what happened?
00:19:27.000 Yeah, it's like I liked it better when I had my cozy books and we just listened to whatever huge corporations on the left did, you know, whatever they want to do.
00:19:34.000 But it's like he failed.
00:19:35.000 And I think he's got this quote where like, my preferred perch is on the rightward edge of the leftward trajectory or something.
00:19:41.000 And he like, he says the quiet part out loud.
00:19:42.000 It's like, you just, he just wants to be a, you know, a Democrat that goes the speed limit or something.
00:19:49.000 Yes.
00:19:50.000 And that doesn't, that doesn't work.
00:19:52.000 And he basically has this.
00:19:53.000 He wants to be the doorman at Drag Queen Story Hour.
00:19:55.000 Totally.
00:19:56.000 I'm not participating.
00:19:57.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:19:57.000 But I'll put it all right to do that in this public space.
00:20:01.000 And it's the argument is a little bit of sophistry.
00:20:04.000 He, he, he basically says, like, America is pluralism, right?
00:20:09.000 We've never had just one monolithic cult.
00:20:11.000 Like, you know, there's some individual freedom here.
00:20:13.000 And because America is pluralism, it is conservative to love pluralism.
00:20:16.000 He defines pluralism as like anything that progressives want to do.
00:20:19.000 And therefore, it's conservative to just like go with progressivism.
00:20:22.000 You know, it's like this is where the lie of that argument is: is that it's always, despite any of the racial demographics and all that, whatever, it's that actually it's not been pluralistic of the love of the country.
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00:22:02.000 This idea that we must allow the soundbite of pluralism for the sake of it, that's actually super, that's a that's a small L liberal idea gone wrong.
00:22:13.000 That's right.
00:22:14.000 Yeah.
00:22:15.000 No, and I think liberalism contains the seeds of its own destruction.
00:22:18.000 And it's just, I mean, we're seeing it.
00:22:19.000 We're seeing it happen right now.
00:22:20.000 That's why conservatism has always been necessary for a counterbalance because we're not going to say that every fruit the enlightenment is wrong.
00:22:27.000 Like free speech is nice and individual rights, but absent any sort of anchoring of tradition and order, you start to get Drag Queen Story Hour everywhere.
00:22:37.000 And I use that as like a provocative example, right?
00:22:39.000 But, or you get pedophilia books in Loudoun County schools, or you get kids that have to put condoms on cucumbers in California.
00:22:46.000 That's right.
00:22:47.000 Right.
00:22:47.000 Or you get people that have to cast out spells every time they hear All Lives Matter in California schools.
00:22:53.000 Where it's like this liberalism actually really quickly turns into authoritarianism, really quickly.
00:22:58.000 Well, yeah, and you're not free to criticize any of those practices.
00:23:00.000 That's right.
00:23:00.000 You just mentioned, right?
00:23:01.000 You'll get deplatformed from the modern town squares, right?
00:23:03.000 You'll get a Twitter mob raged up against you to go to your employer and demand yourself.
00:23:08.000 This is the question I ask of like James Lindsay and Peter Boghogian, who are liberals I really respect, who do want to live in that liberal America.
00:23:15.000 And I think you would agree.
00:23:16.000 That's really nice.
00:23:16.000 You know, go to coffee with your left-wing friend.
00:23:18.000 Like, don't tell my kid what to do.
00:23:20.000 It's like, okay, it's really ideal.
00:23:21.000 I think they're starting to realize that the left violated the liberal peace treaty.
00:23:27.000 Yep.
00:23:28.000 The domestic liberal priest.
00:23:30.000 That's right.
00:23:30.000 I mean, I think conservatives at this point, we believe in free speech and the left doesn't.
00:23:34.000 Yes.
00:23:35.000 It's just that simple.
00:23:38.000 They seem very and eerily focused on shutting up political dissidents.
00:23:43.000 Yep.
00:23:43.000 And again, we could go deeper into kind of how liberalism sowed its own destruction starting with Machiavelli.
00:23:49.000 But anytime you allow liberalism to go its own devices without the restraint of order, tradition, and kind of a push on modernity, you will go to French Revolution, Russian Revolution super fast.
00:24:00.000 Totally.
00:24:00.000 And this is, as far as I can tell, the biggest difference between the conservative mindset and the progressive mindset is how they deal with imperfection.
00:24:07.000 So I think like the founding fathers knew they weren't perfect, right?
00:24:10.000 Like they were conscious of the slavery debate.
00:24:12.000 And even if many were wrong, obviously.
00:24:14.000 But they knew they weren't perfect.
00:24:15.000 We know they weren't perfect.
00:24:16.000 Our society is not perfect now, but they knew it was like about an ever more perfect union, right?
00:24:22.000 That's right.
00:24:22.000 You're supposed to make it better slowly over time.
00:24:24.000 This is the Burkean conservatism that David Burks purports to love.
00:24:27.000 Yes.
00:24:27.000 Russell Burkeism, yes.
00:24:29.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:24:30.000 And the left-wing or the progressive, it's that Bolshevist mentality. 0.87
00:24:34.000 It's no, because the founding fathers own slaves, you know, the Constitution and Declaration of Independence, they're irredeemable and you must throw them out, right?
00:24:41.000 Because society is not perfect.
00:24:42.000 You either see some actual injustice or often it's a trumped up injustice, fake, you know, hoax.
00:24:48.000 We have to talk about Justice Smollett, but that's beside the point.
00:24:51.000 They want to throw the baby out with the bathwater and say, burn it all down.
00:24:54.000 It's this revolutionary rage.
00:24:56.000 And I think that's childish.
00:24:58.000 I think it's...
00:24:59.000 And so they call us reactionary.
00:25:01.000 I actually don't mind it that much to be called that.
00:25:04.000 I know that's like a pejorative, but I do think there's something that said that, yeah, we're actually going to be a little bit more dramatic in our counter move because you guys are deciding to just destroy everything.
00:25:14.000 Yeah.
00:25:15.000 And playing defense against someone who's just attacking you.
00:25:17.000 Like, yeah, you got to do it, but you got to find some way to stop playing.
00:25:21.000 Ultimately, you'll lose.
00:25:22.000 Ultimately, it'll just kill you and our backs are against the wall.
00:25:24.000 So it's like, you got to play offense.
00:25:26.000 And if they want to call that reaction instead of conservatism, it's like fine.
00:25:29.000 But actually, no, we want voter ID and we want a border and we want your kids to be the national language in the United States.
00:25:36.000 This stuff is like common sense.
00:25:37.000 And like 70% of Americans agree on this.
00:25:39.000 That's right.
00:25:39.000 And there is something that's the trope of the silent majority.
00:25:42.000 But like, I think if the Democrats keep pushing the way they're pushing, the silent majority is about to become very, very vocal.
00:25:47.000 And it's a tyrannical minority, extremely small, by the way, but very, very influential.
00:25:52.000 Was it David Sachs who said someone said the greatest trick the progressives ever pulled was convincing the population that they were more than 5%?
00:26:00.000 Yes.
00:26:00.000 It's actually just a small tyrannical majority, but again, they own the Academy and Hollywood and sort of all the opinions.
00:26:07.000 They propagandize on these ridiculous fringe issues.
00:26:10.000 But I think that's actually starting to.
00:26:13.000 I think it's unwinding.
00:26:14.000 I think so.
00:26:15.000 They're also going to start to fight amongst themselves.
00:26:16.000 You're seeing that a little bit, especially because, and again, this is the hilarious part of kind of utopianism.
00:26:24.000 Let's just call it that, is that the road to utopianism is filled with a lot of needles and dead bodies.
00:26:28.000 Yep.
00:26:29.000 It's just like, it really doesn't smell nicely.
00:26:32.000 That's the thing.
00:26:32.000 Conservatives know it's not perfect.
00:26:33.000 It's not going to be perfect.
00:26:34.000 I think it can be better.
00:26:35.000 I think it'd be better progressively over time.
00:26:38.000 This is why they're willing to put their foot on the accelerator, though.
00:26:41.000 Right.
00:26:42.000 Despite the empirical evidence and everything around them is unwinding because they say, oh, yeah, it's okay.
00:26:46.000 After we destroy the currency, open up all the borders and have 35 million Central Americans and everyone just works for a collection of three companies. 1.00
00:26:54.000 It's actually going to be perfect.
00:26:55.000 Then we can have real socialism, which, as you know, has never been tried.
00:26:59.000 Yes.
00:26:59.000 And it's just it is this belief, though, in this kind of Rousseauian view of human existence.
00:27:07.000 We're just one revolution away from perfection.
00:27:09.000 Right.
00:27:10.000 And it requires you to go to a college campus to believe something like this.
00:27:14.000 Yes.
00:27:14.000 But the whole Democrat Party is actually largely embracing this.
00:27:18.000 And so let's talk about what, you know, we call you based Blake around here because you're willing to say the one line that drove people nuts.
00:27:27.000 What is that line?
00:27:28.000 What is it?
00:27:29.000 You tell me.
00:27:30.000 You should be able to have.
00:27:31.000 Yeah.
00:27:32.000 In America, you should be able to raise a family on one single income.
00:27:35.000 People lost their mind.
00:27:36.000 People lost their mind.
00:27:36.000 Everywhere.
00:27:37.000 Like from every corner of the political spectrum.
00:27:42.000 It's so funny, but it's really revealing.
00:27:44.000 Everyone hated you for a different reason for it, by the way.
00:27:46.000 Like, why would you want to have families?
00:27:50.000 And it's fascinating.
00:27:51.000 I got two sort of principal pushbacks.
00:27:53.000 One was like a good faith, like skepticism, like, okay, that's a good goal, but like, how do we get there?
00:27:59.000 Right.
00:27:59.000 And that's fair.
00:28:00.000 And I should explain policies that, you know, increase wages and decrease costs and stuff.
00:28:04.000 But to the left-wing response was sort of like, oh, yeah, it's on a transcript.
00:28:09.000 It would look the same.
00:28:10.000 You know, it's the same words, but it's like, oh, yeah, Blake, how are you going to get there?
00:28:12.000 Like, you can't possibly get there.
00:28:14.000 And they don't want to get there.
00:28:16.000 That's right.
00:28:16.000 They don't want to get there.
00:28:17.000 Meanwhile, they get $100 trillion for the Green New Deal.
00:28:19.000 And get rid of all fossil fuels.
00:28:22.000 Yeah.
00:28:22.000 But the fact that you can affordably have a family.
00:28:24.000 Yeah.
00:28:24.000 Forget.
00:28:25.000 But I do think even the left finds it inconvenient to attack the family because actually most people love their family and want families if they don't have them.
00:28:34.000 Like it's obviously a good goal.
00:28:35.000 The left can't dispute the goal.
00:28:36.000 So they have to invent some.
00:28:39.000 They basically have to squirt up a bunch of squid ink about how that's hard.
00:28:42.000 And well, the best attack they had against me was that was sexist.
00:28:47.000 And that's what they default to.
00:28:48.000 This is sexist.
00:28:49.000 Well, because they assumed that I was saying it wouldn't work for them until 345 or something.
00:28:54.000 It's like.
00:28:56.000 Well, women should think long and hard about that. 1.00
00:28:58.000 Jordan Peterson has a great riff about it.
00:28:59.000 Of course.
00:29:00.000 Yeah.
00:29:01.000 But I didn't say like, who should do what?
00:29:02.000 Like, laissez-faire, man, do what you want, but like, we ought to have a society where you should be prosperous enough to have to get married and have kids.
00:29:08.000 Well, most do.
00:29:09.000 And most on the margin would prefer to raise their kids.
00:29:12.000 You can go leave JP Morgan and take the mask off of like, you know, making change for a $100 bill for some weirdo and Nihalis and like go raise a family. 1.00
00:29:21.000 Turns out most people aren't actually so fortunate to have some job that they love and some boss that they love.
00:29:26.000 And, you know, most people find fulfillment through family and through hobbies and through spirituality, through the religion.
00:29:32.000 That's why markets are immensely listening to your boss.
00:29:35.000 Yeah.
00:29:35.000 That's why, okay, you go to work.
00:29:36.000 Hopefully it's not miserable.
00:29:38.000 Right.
00:29:38.000 Hopefully there's something you enjoy with it.
00:29:40.000 But the best part of the day is when you go home to the things that are eternal and beautiful.
00:29:43.000 Right.
00:29:45.000 Yeah, man.
00:29:45.000 I think more people would choose to raise children and have more children if they could.
00:29:51.000 They can't.
00:29:51.000 We used to be able to do it in this country, raise a family on one income, can't do it anymore, but politicians don't.
00:29:56.000 So let's talk about what it means, what that looks like.
00:29:58.000 I say it very bluntly, I'm not running for office.
00:29:59.000 We should pay people to have kids. 1.00
00:30:01.000 People say, well, Charlie, you're going to be subsidizing single motherhood. 0.99
00:30:03.000 I say, well, then we should have a component where you have to have a man in the home. 0.81
00:30:08.000 I'm not rejecting that there will be externalities.
00:30:12.000 Thomas Sowell's terrific at this.
00:30:13.000 I'm just saying the externalities are worth it.
00:30:16.000 What from a public policy perspective?
00:30:17.000 I think directionally right, like actual generous family policies are interesting.
00:30:21.000 I know Republicans are increasingly interested in exploring this stuff, and I am too.
00:30:24.000 I don't think we can just tweak around a little bit at the marketing.
00:30:27.000 We need a Marshall plan. 0.74
00:30:28.000 It's not just, yeah, more like that.
00:30:30.000 It's not just like $750 extra and child tax credits will on the margin solve our fertility crisis.
00:30:35.000 It won't.
00:30:36.000 And there is a fertility.
00:30:37.000 And there is.
00:30:38.000 I think it's more of a Marshall plan.
00:30:40.000 I think also it's just, it's policies that raise wages and reduce costs.
00:30:44.000 Right.
00:30:44.000 And raising wages, it's like you can reduce immigration.
00:30:47.000 I think the left used to be able to talk about this.
00:30:49.000 Now they don't really talk about it.
00:30:50.000 It's legal and illegal.
00:30:51.000 Legal and illegal.
00:30:52.000 Illegal immigration. 1.00
00:30:53.000 Which is easy.
00:30:53.000 Everyone agrees on the right.
00:30:54.000 But the work you start to get people's eyes raised.
00:30:57.000 Well, sure.
00:30:57.000 But I've seen in the Silicon Valley context, the H-1B visa system, it's just sort of corporate welfare for Facebook at this point.
00:31:03.000 No shoot would rather pay like legions of coders from India way less money to do these software programs. 1.00
00:31:09.000 I think that's a good thing.
00:31:09.000 I'm not sure if I can do it.
00:31:10.000 Who they now they don't have to train, or if he is trained, they don't have to hire him for all this money, right?
00:31:15.000 That's pretty bad too.
00:31:16.000 Like, that's actually just bad.
00:31:18.000 And not saying we should have absolutely zero legal immigration.
00:31:22.000 Obviously, there should be some.
00:31:23.000 I want the world's best and brightest people who are not displacing Americans because they're truly exceptional.
00:31:28.000 But I don't think we should just import hundreds of thousands of software engineers.
00:31:33.000 Look, stocks are at all-time high.
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00:31:38.000 Interest rates are at zero, and the government just printed $5 trillion.
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00:32:27.000 And just to give an idea, people don't know we have 1.2 million legal green cards that come in every year.
00:32:32.000 Is that right?
00:32:32.000 Yeah, that doesn't count the 1.7 million invasion.
00:32:36.000 That's right.
00:32:36.000 And then they want to do a mass amnesty on top of that.
00:32:39.000 That's right.
00:32:39.000 It's out of control.
00:32:40.000 We're importing nearly 3 million people every season.
00:32:43.000 And I think the best asset that so many Americans own actually is monopolistic or opt to be monopolistic access to a tight domestic labor market.
00:32:50.000 And if you throw open all borders and you just say, congratulations, like your son is now competing with 7 billion people.
00:32:57.000 Welcome to globalism.
00:32:58.000 Like, that doesn't actually work for the median American wage earner.
00:33:01.000 But that also violates a promise, isn't it?
00:33:04.000 And a social contract.
00:33:05.000 Yeah, totally.
00:33:06.000 You're supposed to have benefits by being an American.
00:33:08.000 It's like you have access.
00:33:09.000 Well, let's just look at it from a super like technocratic side, which I don't like doing, that you pay taxes for 18 years.
00:33:15.000 Right.
00:33:15.000 You funded the schools.
00:33:16.000 You bought in.
00:33:17.000 You bought in and you didn't commit horrendous crime.
00:33:20.000 And you're still buying in and they're giving your country away.
00:33:22.000 And then some person from, you know, wherever Panama City can just come into the country and be like, no, actually, I'm entitled to that. 0.95
00:33:31.000 Like, no, you actually didn't pay your property taxes.
00:33:35.000 You seem like a nice person, but that's a violation of the social contract, isn't it?
00:33:39.000 I can't go to Germany or Madagascar or China and just like demand to vote in their elections.
00:33:44.000 You see, New York City.
00:33:45.000 800,000 people.
00:33:47.000 Yeah.
00:33:48.000 I mean, the immigration is illegal and non-citizens can now vote in local elections.
00:33:52.000 In New York.
00:33:53.000 Yep.
00:33:53.000 It's nuts, which is like actually unconstitutional.
00:33:57.000 Always been something they said, oh, we're not going to go there.
00:33:59.000 This is what they did.
00:34:00.000 They wrote an op-ed one year saying, like, you know, non-citizenship.
00:34:03.000 It's all Overton window.
00:34:04.000 And then they just shift it.
00:34:05.000 They just shift it over time.
00:34:06.000 So the immigration thing is crazy. 0.99
00:34:08.000 We need to focus on onshoring and stopping offshoring, right? 1.00
00:34:11.000 And there's a carrot and stick approach to take.
00:34:12.000 But I find it crazy that we invented computer chips in Silicon Valley.
00:34:16.000 That's why it's called Silicon Valley.
00:34:18.000 We shipped all that productive industrial capacity.
00:34:20.000 All the semiconductors to Southeast Asia, half the good stuff, the low nanometer stuff has made in Taiwan. 1.00
00:34:24.000 Obviously, that's like a national security threat too at this point.
00:34:27.000 We need to reonshore it.
00:34:28.000 We're doing some of that in Arizona.
00:34:29.000 That's good.
00:34:31.000 But yeah, we need to make things here again.
00:34:32.000 And if you make things here again and you sort of, you know, in intelligent and wise and humble ways, protect American industry, that's half the equation.
00:34:40.000 The other half of the equation is healthcare, education, housing.
00:34:42.000 Why does this stuff keep getting so expensive every year?
00:34:44.000 We've become so habituated to this that we think it's like an iron law of physics.
00:34:49.000 Like, of course, housing has to get more expensive every year.
00:34:51.000 But like, what if it didn't?
00:34:52.000 You know, I met with the Arizona Home Builders Association, and they were telling me like they had some project that they were aware of.
00:35:01.000 It was like a $10, $20 million building project in Arizona, and it was next to a wash.
00:35:05.000 And the wash is bone-dry.
00:35:06.000 It's not a river, it's a wash.
00:35:08.000 But and the whatever EPA classification, that was like a wet river that had some endangered fish in it.
00:35:13.000 And so, like, this project, $20 million, you can't build houses, even though there's like tons of demand for it, uh, because the EPA over in DC is worried about some non-existent endangered fish in this wash that will probably never be a river again, you know.
00:35:26.000 And we're just drowning in bureaucracy.
00:35:28.000 You look at housing, education, healthcare, these systems, they have like monopolies, it's cardinalization, it's regulatory capture, right?
00:35:35.000 You got to get in there with a proverbial machete and hack away at some of this stuff to get some dynamism back in these industries so that people can innovate and prices can come down.
00:35:43.000 Yes.
00:35:44.000 And then also just being honest with young people about what's actually a virtuous life.
00:35:50.000 And it's not renting in downtown Denver and doing weed all day long.
00:35:55.000 Yeah.
00:35:55.000 It's enjoy your postmates, enjoy your Netflix.
00:35:58.000 Yeah, and you own the bugs.
00:35:59.000 And you own nothing and you're going to like it.
00:36:01.000 That's the 2033 reset.
00:36:03.000 Arizona's a unique state.
00:36:04.000 Like you know this because it's one of the more horizontally expansionist states in the country and it's it's actually ceasing to be that way.
00:36:12.000 Where for years, Arizona, if you wanted to add more development, you would go outward, east or west.
00:36:19.000 And that's why Maricopa is so expansionist, right?
00:36:22.000 From Queen Creek all the way to Glendale, it's this massive development.
00:36:26.000 But now, because of the EPA and government lands, developers are like, yeah, we can't do many more of these.
00:36:32.000 We can't do any more Del Webb communities. 0.99
00:36:34.000 And so if you see in Scottsdale, you know, North Scottsdale, especially, they're going up.
00:36:39.000 Yep.
00:36:40.000 Now, going up is great for developers.
00:36:43.000 I personally think they're beautiful buildings.
00:36:45.000 But what's the problem with that is you create more renters or more displaced high-income people coming from California that might not be rooted to the ground.
00:36:54.000 Talk a little bit about the like this BlackRock thing, renting versus owning.
00:36:58.000 And should we as conservatives even care about it?
00:37:00.000 Who are we to care about?
00:37:01.000 Who are you to have an opinion, right?
00:37:02.000 Yeah, just let the pre-market.
00:37:03.000 Like, just blind yourself.
00:37:04.000 That's right.
00:37:05.000 Whatever happens is puritanical.
00:37:06.000 Yeah.
00:37:08.000 No, I think, look, homeownership has always been the path to the middle class.
00:37:11.000 I mean, not always, maybe, but in recent memory, it's been the path to the middle class.
00:37:15.000 And it's bad to overdo it.
00:37:19.000 It's bad to just qualify everybody for a bad loan, right?
00:37:22.000 Then you get 2007 all over again.
00:37:24.000 But it is good to pursue wise policies that actually allow people to own some piece of dirt, right?
00:37:30.000 Some equity that, yeah, maybe appreciates over time.
00:37:33.000 I'm very, I mean, I know, you know, when the BlackRock thing blew up a few months ago, all these people wanted to point out and say, oh, well, BlackRock only owns like, you know, point whatever, 05% of the U.S. housing stock.
00:37:44.000 But I think like now is the time to pay attention to that.
00:37:46.000 Like all these private equity interests and hedge funds are pursuing these strategies to buy up single-family homes.
00:37:51.000 And okay, maybe that's not like meaningfully reflective.
00:37:54.000 And rent them back, though.
00:37:56.000 Rent them back.
00:37:56.000 And, you know, and then they're just in control, right?
00:37:58.000 Like, I think you want decentralization in society.
00:38:01.000 I think you want individual Americans to own their homes.
00:38:03.000 I don't think you want 10 or 20 firms to control half the housing stock in 15 or 20 years.
00:38:09.000 And if that's the way the economics are breaking in this world that we have, I think wise policymakers should be paying attention to that and putting the brakes on it because it's bad.
00:38:18.000 Like you want people to be able to own stuff.
00:38:20.000 And it's becoming increasingly hard to do that.
00:38:22.000 Yeah.
00:38:22.000 And I, I want like a nation of 70 million capitalists, not like seven or even seven million.
00:38:29.000 Like it's, you know, we don't want to become a Latin American country where like, I and Republicans don't talk about the wealth inequality.
00:38:35.000 They have no understanding.
00:38:36.000 We don't want to just have a few wealthy people repo.
00:38:38.000 We have $3.8 trillion wealth transfer in the last 18 months.
00:38:41.000 $3.8 trillion.
00:38:42.000 Over 100 new billionaires.
00:38:44.000 Yep.
00:38:44.000 Billionaires have seen their wealth increase by 62% since the pandemic.
00:38:48.000 Yep.
00:38:49.000 And we're supposed to be told it's a wonderful thing.
00:38:50.000 No, it's actually awful.
00:38:52.000 It's not good.
00:38:52.000 But let's pretend they all earned all their money that Bezos didn't game the system and pay zero in tax.
00:38:57.000 What do they do with their resources?
00:38:59.000 Well, most don't do anything at all.
00:39:01.000 Let's put it this way: they're not building classical education schools or giving money to Hillsdale College, Zuckerberg, or Turning Point USA, right?
00:39:08.000 420 million in Zuckbucks.
00:39:10.000 Or for a Center for Technology Civic Life, or they're giving money to Black Lives Matter, or they're giving money to woke curriculum.
00:39:15.000 And so I would turn a blind eye to some of this wealth expansion.
00:39:18.000 If it was actually reinvested, it's not Carnegie building libraries.
00:39:22.000 No, it's not.
00:39:23.000 Or it's not hospitals that allow ivermectin to be prescribed, right?
00:39:28.000 Instead, it's if someone wants it.
00:39:30.000 Instead, it's this basically ATM nonstop flow of capital to stuff that's destroying the country.
00:39:37.000 NGO Grift.
00:39:38.000 Yeah.
00:39:39.000 So let's close with this.
00:39:40.000 First, your website, blakemasters.com.
00:39:42.000 Is that right?
00:39:42.000 Yes.
00:39:42.000 Give a little pitch, and then I'm going to ask you about wealth.
00:39:44.000 One question about wealth inequality.
00:39:45.000 Yeah, go to blakemasters.com.
00:39:47.000 You know, I mean, I think I'm getting traction in my campaign.
00:39:49.000 There's a lot of momentum.
00:39:50.000 A lot of momentum.
00:39:51.000 I'm up and to the right in the polls, and certainly anecdotally, people are excited to finally have like a non-politician who's smart and capable and actually understands these problems.
00:40:00.000 So that's why I'm doing well.
00:40:01.000 And if you can afford to chip in $10, $5, just get on blakemasters.com and do it.
00:40:07.000 If you want to see something new in politics, here it is.
00:40:09.000 Definitely new.
00:40:10.000 Why should we care about wealth inequality?
00:40:12.000 I think that at the current clip, we look more like Brazil in 20 years than America.
00:40:17.000 This is what the Dems want.
00:40:18.000 They want a thin slice of elite at the top.
00:40:20.000 And surprise, surprise, they get to control the elite.
00:40:22.000 They want a hollowed out middle class, and then they want a permanent underclass that's on the dole, whether it's conventional welfare or UBI or stimulus checks or whatever.
00:40:30.000 And I think that that's A, dystopian and bad.
00:40:33.000 Like, I don't want the United States to look like Brazil. 0.72
00:40:35.000 I want it to look like the United States as we know it and love it.
00:40:37.000 And B, it's not even stable, right?
00:40:39.000 That's actually how you get some sort of crazy, you know, Bolshevist left-wing revolution.
00:40:43.000 The elite might be complacent that they can manage that resentment and manage the under.
00:40:47.000 No, like that'll turn really ugly.
00:40:49.000 And I just don't want to be, I don't want to be any part of that.
00:40:53.000 So you need a strong middle class.
00:40:55.000 You need a restrained sort of, you know, political class responsive to that middle class.
00:40:59.000 And you need mobility so that people can actually live normal lives and yeah, raise a family, hopefully on one income in this country.
00:41:07.000 Very good.
00:41:07.000 BlakeMasters, blakemasters.com.
00:41:09.000 Thanks so much, Blake.
00:41:10.000 Great to see you.
00:41:13.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
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00:41:17.000 Thank you so much for listening.
00:41:18.000 God bless.
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