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00:01:45.000Libby Emmons, editor-in-chief of the post-millennial, is joining us, an absolute force in nature in the conservative movement, conservative media.
00:01:53.000Libby, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:43.000So Gavin Newsom put together this task force for reparations in 2021.
00:02:47.000I can't help but think that he was majorly influenced by the whole George Floyd situation at that time, which was, as we all remember, fiery but peaceful.
00:02:57.000So this reparations board has come out and they have determined that reparations, yes, are indeed necessary.
00:03:04.000Race-based redistribution of wealth is entirely necessary, they say.
00:03:09.000And they've approved 1.2 million per up to 1.2 million per eligible black person in the state of California.
00:03:19.000Watched our group said that this is something like 800 billion in costs.
00:03:24.000Meanwhile, California was not a slave state.
00:03:28.000It was a free state when it entered the union.
00:03:31.000So I don't know why California thinks that it's their responsibility to make reparations for the slave states that existed at the time of California's entrance.
00:03:42.000Not to interrupt you, Libby, but like, what does it matter if you were a slave state?
00:03:46.000Nobody alive today owns slaves and nobody alive today was a slave.
00:03:52.000I mean, unless they are being smuggled across the border or something.
00:03:58.000On top of everything else, it makes it more ridiculous.
00:04:01.000So, Gavin Newsom is already ridiculous.
00:04:04.000This entire reparations board, and you see these people on the news sitting in nice places, wearing nice clothes, talking about how oppressed they are.
00:04:11.000And then it turns out, on top of everything else, California has absolutely no liability in the history of slavery.
00:04:17.000So, that by itself just angers me even more.
00:04:21.000It makes me more annoyed about this whole thing.
00:04:23.000But, what this is, is a race-based redistribution of wealth, as I said before.
00:04:29.000And this is not something that America should stand by and accept, no matter what the race is of the people who claim to be oppressed.
00:04:38.000It's absolutely insane to take money from people who have earned it and give it to other people for no other reason than the color of their skin.
00:04:46.000And as you said, yes, no one alive today was enslaved.
00:04:51.000People are descended from people who were enslaved, but most white people in the United States weren't even here during the time of slavery anyway.
00:05:59.000But the point is that they want this racial redistribution of wealth because they hate whiteness.
00:06:06.000I mean, I think that's ultimately what this is.
00:06:08.000And that's why there's so many of us on the right that are scratching our heads and saying this is patently absurd on its face.
00:06:15.000Yet you guys are this committee for reparations.
00:06:18.000You're just going to rubber stamp this stuff and you're going to put a 2024 potential hopeful in a very interesting position, which is kind of why I want to tie that in in the next segment.
00:06:29.000But Libby, you know, okay, here we go.
00:06:46.000Well, what they've done here with this particular measure that I looked at, that they have tried to tie it into particular things.
00:06:52.000So, for example, if you lived in California for a set amount of years and you could have theoretically been redlined, which was an act done by the Housing Department, which discriminated against communities, you could receive money if you have been arrested within a certain range of years.
00:07:08.000You could have been a victim of mass incarceration, Incarceration, so to speak.
00:07:11.000I mean, the criteria for this is so sloppy.
00:07:25.000It's the red line, which I predicted, but I did not predict that if you had been the victim, the victim, now we're talking about the gaslighting of the American people.
00:07:34.000If you've been the victim of mass incarceration, Libby.
00:07:39.000Yeah, again, if you were incarcerated, you have served your time to society and nothing further should be asked of you because of that, nor should you be asking anything further from anyone else unless you actually were innocent, in which case there are ways to go about, you know, getting your record expunged or what have you and people sue about that.
00:08:00.000But that's not even what we're talking about.
00:08:04.000No, we're talking about taking money from one group of people and giving it to another group of people based entirely on their skin color, as though these people are the victims just across the board of everything.
00:08:18.000And this is, of course, such a huge problem in our society right now, this grievance culture, this need to declare your level of oppression, this need to say that you have been victimized, to cross your arms over your chest and demand that people pay attention to you in exactly the appropriate way that you want them to pay attention to you.
00:08:36.000The level of pride that goes into demanding that everyone else treat you a certain way and bow down to the things that you have experienced in your life is just absurd and it's anti-American.
00:08:52.000America is a country where you have people coming here looking for a better life, looking to earn a living, raise their children in a free place without a lot of constraints.
00:09:03.000And this is the kind of thing that is getting in the way of that.
00:09:06.000And what I think too, I mean, we're not talking really about immigration, but as we look at the masses of illegal immigrants lining up at the border trying to get in, we have a progressive left demanding that all these people be let in so that they can have a better life, but also saying that the United States is so horribly, miserably racist that it's dangerous for black people to walk in.
00:10:46.000Libby, you guys were one of the first outlets that I saw yesterday.
00:10:50.000And I actually saw that Charlie tweeted this link, but here you have it from the post-millennial.
00:10:54.000Full footage reveals former Marine Daniel Penny putting Jordan Neely in recovery position, passengers complimenting him.
00:11:03.000You know, this is graphic footage, folks, but it's important because what you have here is you have AOC and her ilk wanting to stoke a race riot.
00:11:12.000They're taking over the subway system in New York City.
00:11:15.000And yet here, this footage, and we didn't play the audio because it's hard to hear, but just believe us that there are fellow passengers complimenting the former Maureen Penny for his handling of the situation.
00:11:27.000And you actually will see in this footage that...
00:11:32.000Neely is still moving and they are trying to resuscitate him or bring him back to consciousness.
00:11:37.000I mean, they keep saying, oh, he's going to be fine.
00:12:14.000I think it's important to note when you look at this footage that and what happened to Mr. Neely, it's really important to note that it takes a lot for New Yorkers to get out of their chairs on the subway and to actually deal with a crazy person on the subway.
00:12:35.000Being on the subway with crazy people, what you typically do, I mean, there's crazy, I've been on the subway with people running around the car with knives, screaming and yelling.
00:12:45.000And everybody just keeps their eyes down and hopes that the crazy person doesn't target you.
00:12:51.000I've been sat next to people on men on very crowded trains and had them do absolutely horrible things to themselves while rubbing up against me and trying to get people to move out of the way so that I could get out of the seat.
00:13:06.000So it takes an awful lot for New Yorkers to get up and do something.
00:13:11.000So this man must have been really behaving in a nuts and crazy way for New Yorkers to step up and try and subdue him.
00:13:19.000And I don't think that people who don't travel the subway every day really understand how common an occurrence it is to have lunatics on the subway screaming that they're going to kill everybody and sometimes they are armed.
00:13:34.000He said he was ready to go back to jail and he said that he was willing to hurt anybody in that train.
00:13:55.000It's not being censored because Elon owns Twitter now and we can actually speak the truth.
00:13:59.000So let me tie these two disparate storylines in together because I want to get your take on it.
00:14:03.000This Marine's life, former Marine's life, may be saved by the fact that the real truth and the information is now circulated on social media.
00:14:10.000And I think we're winning the messaging war on Jordan Neely.
00:14:13.000I think he looks like a guy who had 42 priors.
00:15:41.000And I think it's almost taken the conservative movement, maybe, you know, since Trump 2016, learning how to fight back loud, proud, bold without apology.
00:15:49.000And now you're seeing all of those efforts and all those wins come to fruition with this Jordan Neely thing and maybe with gun issues and many other things.
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00:20:14.000Um, and why is this case important and where were the controversies at?
00:20:20.000So, the bombshell, and I know people had a lot of difficulty, and they have had difficulty, Andrew, with my predicting and warning them for months that this Department of Justice and now special counsel Jack Smith, I use quotations, air quotations for him, will bring forward probably, well, it will be a multi-count criminal indictment against Donald Trump at some point this year.
00:20:44.000What happened Thursday was the conviction of four of five members of the Proud Boys, including their leader Enrique Tario, on charges of seditious conspiracy.
00:20:56.000This is a post-Civil War statute, Andrew, that had to apply to Confederate soldiers or members of the Confederacy who still wanted to overthrow the government of the United States.
00:21:08.000It has nothing to do with people who walked into the Capitol building, who committed no violent crime.
00:21:13.000Enrique Atario wasn't even in Washington, D.C.
00:21:17.000But the reason why these convictions pose such great legal peril for Donald Trump is because President Trump was a key figure throughout this case and throughout the trial.
00:21:29.000And as I explained in my piece at Am Greatness last week, I went to closing arguments last week, and the very first clip that Assistant U.S. Attorney Connor Mulro played for the jury was not of the Proud Boys committing seditious conspiracy.
00:21:43.000It was Donald Trump's comment in the presidential debate in September of 2020 when, after being goaded by Fox News host Chris Wallace and Joe Biden, who specifically told him to say Proud Boys, Donald Trump said, Proud boys stand back and stand by.
00:22:01.000That, according to this DOJ, was sort of a call to arms, enlisting these Proud Boys to commit seditious conspiracy, insurrection, whatever you want to call it.
00:22:55.000Well, no, because nothing was even really on the table.
00:22:58.000Of course, January 6th wasn't even a thought yet, as you know.
00:23:02.000What was happening was Donald Trump was being very successful in condemning Joe Biden and the Democrats for their support of BLM and Antifa riots, which of course rocked the country, including Washington, D.C., for months.
00:23:17.000And so he kept pointing to Joe Biden, the Democrats' support of this, you know, bending the knee, etc.
00:23:23.000And Chris Wallace interrupted, as of course, Chris Wallace loves to do, ran defense for Joe Biden and said, Well, Mr. President, but why don't you condemn white supremacist, violent militia groups who committed crimes in Kenosha and Portland?
00:23:42.000Like the Proud Boys are comparable to what Antifa was doing in Portland or anything that happened in Kenosha.
00:23:49.000And so Trump said, Okay, fine, I will give me a name.
00:23:53.000He didn't even know who they were talking about.
00:23:55.000Joe Biden, standing right next to him, says the Proud Boys.
00:23:59.000So Trump says reflexively, Okay, Proud Boys, stand back and speak.
00:25:37.000And that's why it was so important for these Proud Boys to go to trial.
00:25:41.000Because what the government stipulated, and that means they admit it, is that they had at least eight FBI informants involved in the Proud Boys months before January 6th.
00:25:52.000We know at least two of them were on the ground with the Proud Boys during the first breach point, which you may recall another person was there with them too, Ray Epps, who to this day remains uncharged.
00:26:06.000He was just there, though, Julie, to keep the peace.
00:26:10.000I'm just, you know, don't mean to correct the record here, but no, keep going.
00:26:13.000So you're saying two, at least two of these FBI informants were at the initial point of breach.
00:26:37.000There's no evidence or texts that lays out an attack on the Capitol.
00:26:43.000Fact, Andrew, the one document that the government said for months was responsible that was sort of this roadmap for the Proud Boys seditious conspiracy plan was called 1776 Returns.
00:26:56.000What comes out in trial is not only did none of the Proud Boys author it, Enrique Terrio, the leader who it was emailed to, never even opened it or saw it.
00:27:07.000And it was sourced back to a one-time or perhaps current intelligence official who wrote that, sent it to a friend of Enrique Tario, told her to send it to Terrio.
00:27:24.000But it doesn't matter, Andrew, because they're going before DC jury, right?
00:27:27.000I mean, you had the juror interview that came out on Friday.
00:27:30.000This juror said on the first day they decided these guys, four of five of them, were guilty of treason, basically, by opposing by force the government of the United States.
00:27:42.000How do you do that with no weapons, Andrew?
00:28:07.000Obviously, we're not condoning the events, all the events of January 6th, but that is not what a right-wing militia.
00:28:15.000You know what that says to me is that these people that are claiming it is that have been living in some blue city bubble their entire lives with metropolitan like ice lattes and all of this stuff.
00:28:25.000If you grew up in the country, if you grew up in rural America and Red America, you know that's not what it looks like.
00:28:32.000That was absolutely, I mean, this is how I know how insane it all is.
00:28:53.000But are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha and as we've seen in Portland?
00:29:08.000Are you prepared to specifically do it?
00:29:11.000I would say almost everything I see is from the left wing, not from the right wing.
00:29:44.000I know you said that before, but watching him do it, you know, Trump's like, of course I, you know, white supremacists, I don't want anything to do with white supremacists.
00:29:55.000Stand, you know, stand by, stand down.
00:29:58.000But what's crazy here, and I was texting you, it's a total setup.
00:30:01.000So then you find out that you've got at least eight FBI informants embedded within the Proud Boys who have become like, you know, the poster child for like insurrection or something, which is hilarious if you know anything about the Proud Boys.
00:30:14.000But what's crazy is it feels like a setup to me, Julie.
00:30:20.000How would, if it was a setup, and you could start your idea here, I want to take it on the other side of the break.
00:30:30.000Well, what was happening in 2020 was the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers were supposed to be sort of the antidote to BLM and Antifa.
00:30:37.000And the Proud Boys were showing up in areas where BLM and Antifa were ransacking cities, destroying the Portland courthouse, attacking, assaulting people in Kenosha and other, and in Washington, D.C., by the way.
00:30:52.000And there was a joke that came out during the trial.
00:30:56.000One of the witnesses said, I can't decide if the Proud Boys is a drinking group with a political problem or a political problem with a political group with a drinking problem.
00:31:07.000So they're just kind of rapport browsers, but they were really there to protect people.
00:31:46.000And if so, how did he know the Proud Boys would be useful to him later?
00:31:50.000It was, I don't suspect it was necessarily a setup for January 6th, but the setup was then to tie Donald Trump to what the media, Department of Justice, FBI, Democrats consider this right-wing domestic violent extremist group called the Proud Boys.
00:33:32.000They just assume that I, you know, and it's, it's just, it's the tell that they're more obsessed with it than we are.
00:33:39.000I mean, we, we want some pretty common sense things: closed border, no reparations, uh, rule of law, criminals to go to jail and not be released the next day.
00:33:48.000I mean, we're not, you know, the vast majority of the conservative movement is not obsessed with these issues.
00:33:53.000But, Julie, I mean, tie it back into what's going to happen next, right?
00:33:58.000So, we've got this special prosecutor.
00:34:01.000What should the American people be looking toward next?
00:34:05.000What is what are the next dominoes to fall?
00:34:08.000The next dominoes to fall outside of what's happening in Georgia in terms of out of this Department of Justice will be indictments for two areas that special counsel Jack Smith's office/slash DOJ is looking into, and that is the handling of classified documents, possibly obstruction of justice related to the movement or housing storage of those documents.
00:34:33.000But his greatest legal liability is going to be for January 6th, obstruction of an official proceeding, conspiracy, tampering with evidence, and witnesses, but now seditious conspiracy.
00:34:46.000And this is a charge, a felony charge that is up to punishable by up to 20 years in prison.
00:34:53.000So now that he's tied to these convictions and this case as a key figure in the government's case against these Proud Boys, Jack Smith, and you could see it over the weekend.
00:35:05.000And I'll have a column up tonight about this.
00:35:06.000You had everyone from Adam Schiff to Jamie Raskin to other, I'm trying to think who is that?
00:35:32.000I can't wait for that column to come out.
00:35:34.000We'll talk about it on the show probably tomorrow.
00:35:36.000But just real quick, we got a minute before the hour.
00:35:40.000So give it just a, is there any way that you, any evidence that you've seen that would actually tie the Trump administration to marching orders delivered to the Proud Boys or any of these other groups?