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00:00:54.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:00:58.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:01:01.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:01:04.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:05.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:06.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:01:08.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:15.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

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00:02:16.000 It's great to be here in person.

00:02:17.000 Am I right?

00:02:18.000 It's terrific.

00:02:19.000 And I want to thank the Ahern here for opening up this wonderful facility.

00:02:25.000 Who would have ever thought it would be difficult to have an event right now?

00:02:29.000 The lockdown should have ended a long time ago.

00:02:31.000 We're going to talk about that tonight.

00:02:32.000 I want to thank our amazing purple shirt freedom lovers.

00:02:38.000 These young people, and we're going to go through this tonight, but if you really want to look at who is fighting for freedom and liberty where the cost is very high, it's young people like our members at Turning Point USA every single day.

00:02:55.000 It is harder than ever to be a conservative in our country, and it's especially hard to be a young conservative, especially on a college campus like some nearby.

00:03:04.000 But you know, V's okay.

00:03:05.000 I don't know.

00:03:06.000 You guys could tell me if it's okay or not.

00:03:07.000 But it's amazing what you guys are doing.

00:03:10.000 And I want to just say that they're under attack.

00:03:14.000 They get called names.

00:03:15.000 Many of them put their social status at risk.

00:03:19.000 They put their friendships at risk, all to be here and to help organize this event.

00:03:25.000 And so I hope that you understand that takes a lot of courage.

00:03:28.000 And courage is lacking in our country right now.

00:03:30.000 It really is.

00:03:35.000 There's a lot I want to get to, and I also want to spend extra time on questions tonight because that's the most fun.

00:03:40.000 And I feel like the last couple of events, we haven't had as much time as I would like there.

00:03:44.000 But I want to talk about less about kind of big picture ideas to begin with and more just about what's happening in the news cycle.

00:03:52.000 Because the last four or five days, there's been some things that have happened that are beyond disturbing and a big warning sign for those of us that love our country of exactly who's in charge of our country right now.

00:04:06.000 And if you're like me, I believe that voter reform and voting reform, I should say, is long overdue, especially in states like Georgia.

00:04:14.000 And so on our podcast, and I appreciate those of you that listen to our podcast and our radio show, we're on three hours here.

00:04:23.000 I don't know the numbers.

00:04:24.000 I'll get the, I think it's a.m.

00:04:27.000 Is it 670?

00:04:28.000 790.

00:04:29.000 Is it 790?

00:04:31.000 790.

00:04:34.000 Then 790.

00:04:35.000 You can hear me every day for three hours.

00:04:36.000 I apologize.

00:04:37.000 I have to know all the call signs of every market across the country, so I'm still learning it.

00:04:40.000 We've only been doing radio for about six months.

00:04:43.000 And I talked about this on the radio program in the podcast.

00:04:46.000 And those of you that have been listening know this, is that we've been following all the voter integrity bills across the country, and we've been following what's happening in Georgia.

00:04:55.000 And what was being debated and eventually got signed into law in Georgia was a very average voting reform bill.

00:05:04.000 Quite honestly, it's not very controversial.

00:05:07.000 It shortens the Senate primary from nine weeks to five weeks.

00:05:13.000 It requires you to prove who you are when you send in a mail-in absentee ballot.

00:05:19.000 What a concept, right?

00:05:21.000 That you must prove your identity through any means that you could possibly imagine.

00:05:25.000 Multiple are given to you.

00:05:28.000 Paid for by the taxpayer.

00:05:31.000 And it still allows you to give out water when people go vote.

00:05:35.000 Never knew that voting was such a dehydrating exercise, as if it was running a marathon or going through Navy SEALs training.

00:05:43.000 You could bring your own water too.

00:05:45.000 It says in the bill that water receptacles are allowed.

00:05:47.000 It's just an outright lie by our current president, where he said that giving water is illegal.

00:05:52.000 He's lying to you.

00:05:54.000 And even in the Washington Post said it was four Pinocchios.

00:05:58.000 That says something when they come out and say that.

00:06:00.000 And so the bill was okay.

00:06:02.000 I'd give it like a five out of 10.

00:06:05.000 I'm glad they passed it.

00:06:06.000 And the response, even for those of us that follow the media and these activist groups, was shocking.

00:06:14.000 And the response was they went immediately to the highest level of outrage imaginable, where the president decided to declare economic warfare on a state in our country.

00:06:24.000 So just so you understand, Joe Biden decided to put more economic pressure on a black county in Fulton County, Georgia, than on Iran.

00:06:36.000 That's where we're at.

00:06:38.000 There has been more economic damage done to our own people than to a foreign adversary. 0.96

00:06:43.000 And you know exactly what I'm talking about.

00:06:45.000 Major League Baseball threatened to move the All-Star game.

00:06:49.000 And I'm a baseball fan, or at least I used to be, because I'm not really interested in watching an entire organization that doesn't reflect my values.

00:06:57.000 And in fact, is at war with my values.

00:06:59.000 I guess you're the pastime or used to be.

00:06:59.000 So have fun.

00:07:01.000 And if you want to watch baseball, fine.

00:07:03.000 I'm not going to waste my time.

00:07:05.000 And I'm not going to tell you to stop doing it.

00:07:08.000 I'm not going to do what the left does and be like, we must go and demand, like, just make your own choices.

00:07:13.000 I tried to watch an ending of a baseball game.

00:07:14.000 I said, you know what?

00:07:15.000 The people in charge of this entire exercise don't share my values.

00:07:19.000 In fact, they're at war with my values.

00:07:20.000 So have a nice life.

00:07:21.000 That was kind of my, that's my message to Major League Baseball.

00:07:24.000 Good luck.

00:07:24.000 When 75 million people stop watching baseball, we're going to see how that actually ends up working.

00:07:29.000 And so I've been to Wrigley Field many times.

00:07:34.000 Any Chicagoans around here, Chicagoans?

00:07:37.000 Awesome.

00:07:38.000 Good luck going to Wrigley Field to the will call ticket and come up and say, I have first base tickets front row.

00:07:46.000 They say, okay, can you show some identification?

00:07:50.000 Every major league baseball stadium across the country go to will call tickets.

00:07:53.000 They're going to ask for some identification.

00:07:55.000 But now we have to be lectured by the head of major league baseball that you're a bad person if you dare demand that you verify your identity with a deluge of 1.2 million absentee ballots in Georgia.

00:08:08.000 And by the way, I don't even require ID for most in-person voting in Georgia.

00:08:12.000 No, we're just talking about mail and absentee balloting.

00:08:16.000 And so Major League Baseball then decides to actually make good on their promise.

00:08:19.000 They were pressured by Joe Biden, the economic warfare general himself, who decides to put more pressure on his own citizens to suffer than our foreign adversaries.

00:08:29.000 I want you to think about how just demented that is.

00:08:31.000 And I use that word intentionally, that you have a president that actually wants American citizens to suffer because he doesn't like a voting reform package that is passed.

00:08:40.000 And he doubled down today, and we'll get to that in a second.

00:08:42.000 And then you have Delta Airlines come out.

00:08:44.000 And I remember, I just got done with my podcast, and one of our team members came up to me.

00:08:48.000 They said, Delta issued a statement.

00:08:49.000 I said, so what?

00:08:50.000 They're an airline.

00:08:51.000 Who cares?

00:08:51.000 They said, well, they have this long, scathing statement.

00:08:54.000 And this guy, the CEO, I want to get his name right, Ed Bastion, comes out.

00:08:56.000 Have you seen this video?

00:08:58.000 It's like a hostage situation, right?

00:09:00.000 His eyes are wide open.

00:09:02.000 He just keeps on repeating the same thing over and over again.

00:09:05.000 This bill does not reflect our values.

00:09:06.000 Like, you mean the value to bore a Delta airline flight with an identification?

00:09:10.000 You mean that value?

00:09:11.000 Good luck working for Delta without proving who you are.

00:09:15.000 And he just keeps on repeating it.

00:09:17.000 And then Coca-Cola, which is also headquartered in Georgia, comes out.

00:09:20.000 James Quincy, a foreign national who's running the company of Coca-Cola, comes out and says over and over the same thing because some HR department intern, you know, who's like 28 years old and graduated from some ridiculous university just wrote this for them.

00:09:33.000 He doesn't even know what's in the bill.

00:09:34.000 Says, this is terrible.

00:09:36.000 It does not reflect our values.

00:09:38.000 What exactly about the bill does not reflect your values?

00:09:40.000 And so then Major League Baseball says, okay, we're going to make good on our promise.

00:09:43.000 So they go from a county that is 62% black to a county that is 12% black in Denver, mostly upper middle class white, removing a $100 million stimulus to black-owned businesses in downtown Georgia to go fight systemic racism.

00:10:01.000 It's not about that.

00:10:02.000 We all know that's not the case. 0.61

00:10:04.000 These people are frauds, and it's time that we start calling them that. 0.88

00:10:06.000 They don't care about that stuff. 0.99

00:10:07.000 They don't care about it.

00:10:08.000 They never matter.

00:10:11.000 And what's really going on here, and this is the point that needs to be repeated, is that they're trying to make a public example.

00:10:20.000 This is political deterrence.

00:10:21.000 This is all this is.

00:10:23.000 What they're trying to say, and they're trying to make it hurt.

00:10:26.000 They're trying to say if you try to reform your voter laws, if you try to fix the mess that we were able to benefit from, we are going to send the political enforcement squad after you.

00:10:38.000 And in a very bizarre turn of events, that's now corporate America.

00:10:42.000 That's the people that literally the Delta mission statement is taking people from one location to the other safely and securely.

00:10:48.000 They're not a political commenting organization, but now they feel the need to weigh in on this.

00:10:53.000 And this is part of the playbook of the left, which is take over functioning pre-existing institutions and use them for our own purpose.

00:11:00.000 And Coca-Cola, the mission statement of Coca-Cola is very simple.

00:11:03.000 Give as many people diabetes as possible.

00:11:04.000 Like, that's basically what they do, right?

00:11:07.000 And by the way, you should stop drinking that garbage anyway, whether or not they share your values.

00:11:13.000 Drink water, tea, and coffee.

00:11:14.000 Your life will be a lot better.

00:11:15.000 I mean that, seriously.

00:11:16.000 And if you drink it, fine, just whatever.

00:11:17.000 It's your own choice, I guess.

00:11:20.000 And so, but then you have a guy that has to lecture you about how bad of a person you are because you want to make sure that your elections are safe.

00:11:28.000 And so what's really going on here, and I want to reinforce this point, and this goes back to how the neoconservatives view foreign policy.

00:11:36.000 You guys might have learned, or maybe not, I don't even know if they teach this stuff.

00:11:39.000 I don't know what they teach anymore.

00:11:40.000 Domino theory.

00:11:41.000 Do you guys know what that is?

00:11:44.000 It was a belief back in the 1960s and 70s that you must stop communism in one country or else it's going to spread to more countries.

00:11:50.000 And I'm not going to take a position on that either way.

00:11:52.000 I think it's probably flawed and it got us into the Vietnam War, which I think was far too prolonged and protracted and probably a geopolitical mistake.

00:11:59.000 That's not why I'm here tonight to talk about the Vietnam War, and I'm open to be corrected on that.

00:12:03.000 The point is that the same theory that drove them for foreign intervention on domino theory, they're worried that all of a sudden Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada are going to start reforming their elections.

00:12:17.000 That's what they're worried about.

00:12:20.000 And so they immediately ratchet up the intensity and they say, we have to make this hurt and we have to call this Jim Crow on steroids.

00:12:30.000 And let me be very clear.

00:12:31.000 That is one of the most insulting statements for the people that actually lived under Jim Crow that had to fight to end Jim Crow in America.

00:12:37.000 It's so unbelievably insulting to compare that to it.

00:12:41.000 But we're getting smart to this.

00:12:44.000 I have to give the conservative movement credit, which I know many of you would consider yourself part of it.

00:12:49.000 We're not falling to this nonsense anymore.

00:12:52.000 Do you notice that finally on television, we have people that, without wavering an inch, believe that the bill didn't go far enough and we're able to push back against it.

00:13:02.000 But unfortunately, we don't control the channels of communication, majority of them.

00:13:06.000 I'm going to get to that in a second.

00:13:08.000 But I want to reinforce one point here.

00:13:10.000 I want you to think deeply about this.

00:13:12.000 That the Republican Party, and I'm not taking a position on Republican versus Democrat tonight.

00:13:17.000 We're a nonprofit and we're just here to talk about ideas and the best way to move the country forward ideologically.

00:13:23.000 But this is a fact that the Republican Party carried the water for corporate America the last 20 years.

00:13:28.000 That's a fact, right?

00:13:29.000 And you could clap, you could boo, whatever.

00:13:31.000 It's just a fact, right?

00:13:33.000 And Mitch McConnell in particular did whatever they wanted: cut their corporate taxes, deregulated them.

00:13:38.000 And generally, I'm in agreement with that.

00:13:41.000 Generally, I think they went way too far when they had the apparatus of power of the Congress and the Senate and the White House.

00:13:46.000 Their big picture idea is: let's go cut the taxes of the tech companies that hate us and want to destroy America.

00:13:52.000 Like, that was not exactly wise.

00:13:54.000 Like, let's make sure Google has a lower effective corporate tax rate.

00:13:57.000 And so, these same corporations that the Republican Party has gone out of their way to pander to are now basically saying, Oh, no, no, no, we serve a different master now.

00:14:10.000 We actually don't care about you.

00:14:12.000 We are now going to pander to the woke industrial complex.

00:14:15.000 And there's a lot of different reasons for this.

00:14:16.000 You have the CEO of Coca-Cola, James Quincy, and Ed Bastion, who are very weak people, and all they care about is the next $17 million bonus so they can get another yacht in the Bahamas.

00:14:26.000 They have no actual concern about America, the nation.

00:14:31.000 They have a concern about America, the colony.

00:14:33.000 You see the difference?

00:14:34.000 Like, we are a country that has an economy in it.

00:14:37.000 We're not an economy that happens to be in a country.

00:14:40.000 And so, I love free markets because it's the best thing for human beings.

00:14:44.000 I love free markets because it's the best thing for America.

00:14:47.000 When all of a sudden, we're supposed to like bow at the altar of free markets while our country is getting crushed by these corporations.

00:14:55.000 I'm going to call not, I'm going to call BS on that and say, No, like Coca-Cola and Delta, your tax breaks are ending.

00:15:01.000 And if you want to go play on team left, you're going to lose because good luck running an airline with the idea that there's no math is racist.

00:15:09.000 Like, try to land a plane with that belief.

00:15:11.000 Good luck.

00:15:12.000 No, seriously, like there's no such thing as math.

00:15:15.000 Like, go try and take off when it's 101 degrees outside here in Vegas.

00:15:21.000 Many of you have probably sat many hot days.

00:15:24.000 By the way, they're renaming your airport here to Harry Reid.

00:15:26.000 Is that right?

00:15:34.000 No, no, I heard this today.

00:15:36.000 I said, by the way, we need answers on the treadmill incident.

00:15:40.000 I'm still not convinced of why that's a total sidebar.

00:15:43.000 I heard that in, and I heard that he sued.

00:15:46.000 And then in Discovery on the stand, I don't know if this is true, it came out that it was all a lie and that it was actually his brother, total sidebar, but you want to talk about a corrupt guy.

00:15:55.000 My goodness.

00:15:56.000 And you guys deserve so much better than that.

00:15:58.000 Anyway, you guys have had many times in the middle of the summer, 104-degree heat, where you want to get out or go on vacation, and all of a sudden they're like, well, it's too hot to take off.

00:16:08.000 We've done the math.

00:16:08.000 We've done the weight limit.

00:16:09.000 We got to burn some fuel.

00:16:10.000 Everyone's been there, especially here in Vegas.

00:16:12.000 I've been there a couple times.

00:16:13.000 Well, if math is racist, Delta Airlines, just why don't you just feel your way to land the plane?

00:16:19.000 It's your truth.

00:16:21.000 Go find an airstrip.

00:16:22.000 Will it into existence?

00:16:24.000 Of course, they don't actually believe this nonsense, right? 1.00

00:16:27.000 The rubbish they're teaching your children. 0.99

00:16:29.000 And the same with Coca-Cola. 0.99

00:16:32.000 So just throw out all the recipes.

00:16:34.000 Just have a go at it.

00:16:37.000 Put whatever you want and try to sell it.

00:16:38.000 And of course, they don't actually believe that math is racist and scientific formulas are racist.

00:16:42.000 Their whole profit model is built on that stuff.

00:16:44.000 Of course not.

00:16:46.000 But the point is that we're now being lectured by weak and quite honestly morally compromised rich people that are in control of our mega corporations, trying to now be the muscle of the American left.

00:16:59.000 And I promise I wouldn't do too many mafia references in Vegas, but I just can't resist myself.

00:17:06.000 You guys all know how the mafia used to operate, right?

00:17:09.000 Intimidation tactics.

00:17:12.000 And some of you that have dealt with that form of a cartel know it's a real thing.

00:17:16.000 I'm sure that some of your grandparents would tell you stories about in the early days of Vegas.

00:17:21.000 That was a real thing that happened here, not just here.

00:17:23.000 It's all Chicago.

00:17:24.000 I grew up in Chicago.

00:17:25.000 Where if you cross the line, they'll first do a very, very stern warning.

00:17:31.000 You'll wake up with a horse's head in your bed or something.

00:17:34.000 Or they'll follow you home from work or you get like a disturbing thing in your mailbox, but you know they're going to make good on the threat.

00:17:40.000 That's the muscle.

00:17:41.000 That's called street justice, not actual justice, right?

00:17:45.000 And that's a bad thing for the country.

00:17:47.000 We tried to get away from that.

00:17:48.000 And we try to say that we don't like it when whoever has the biggest baseball bat or the most goons is able to actually dictate what's right for a country.

00:17:56.000 That's how we're now engaging our political discourse.

00:17:59.000 It's no different.

00:18:00.000 Delta and Coca-Cola are the mafioso enforcement thugs of American politics.

00:18:06.000 And it doesn't stop with them.

00:18:07.000 If you look at the list of people that are like, this Georgia law doesn't share our values, they don't even, they just keep on repeating the same thing over and over again.

00:18:15.000 What they're really saying, though, is that we take orders now from the current president, and we don't want, and this is the other thing, the cowardice.

00:18:23.000 And I will go toe-to-toe with anyone on this.

00:18:26.000 I think the most powerful threat in American politics, and all of you experience this, and it dictates almost all human behavior in this realm, is the fear of being called the R-word.

00:18:39.000 That is the number one fear that James Quincy and Ed Bastion have, is the fear of being called a racist.

00:18:47.000 So James Quincy, the CEO of Coca-Cola and Ed Bastion, they are willing to do whatever they are told to do, as long as they don't have a scathing editorial in the New York Times that says white silence is violence over at Delta.

00:19:01.000 For them, that's a horror show.

00:19:04.000 They're like, I don't care if the country has to burn.

00:19:06.000 I don't care if everything goes away.

00:19:08.000 And quite honestly, I can't think, I could probably think of some other.

00:19:11.000 That is one of the top levels and examples of cowardice and anti-patriotic behavior.

00:19:18.000 Have a little bit of respect for the American taxpayer that has subsidized Delta for years and bailed you out last year during the lockdown where we gave you hundreds of billions of dollars to fly empty airplanes around the country.

00:19:31.000 Have a little respect for that.

00:19:33.000 Instead, we have to be lectured by these people.

00:19:35.000 And so this is something that we as conservatives have to realize and recognize that corporate America is not your friend.

00:19:41.000 It's not.

00:19:42.000 I love free markets.

00:19:44.000 I love free markets because it serves human beings.

00:19:46.000 None of these companies actually believe in free markets.

00:19:49.000 They use our own phrases of free markets against us as a way to not act against these companies.

00:19:55.000 I love entrepreneurship.

00:19:56.000 I love small business.

00:19:57.000 I will not defend a corporate oligarchy.

00:19:59.000 I'm not going to do it.

00:20:00.000 I'm not going to say a sudden say, you know what?

00:20:02.000 We're not able to touch Google, Amazon, Facebook, Delta, and Coca-Cola because these are private companies.

00:20:08.000 I could debunk that in a second.

00:20:09.000 They're mostly private public partnerships made possible by government interference and U.S. taxpayers.

00:20:15.000 But more importantly, when you start acting like a Democrat super PAC and not like an airline, I'm all of a sudden supposed to just act like that's a normal thing.

00:20:24.000 Absolutely not Delta or Coca-Cola or the entire gauntlet of the list.

00:20:29.000 And so this is a learning moment for conservatives.

00:20:32.000 I think everyone's starting to get it.

00:20:34.000 And it's a little bit shocking because you're like, well, then who is on our side?

00:20:37.000 Because we always thought, well, at least the big companies are on our team, right?

00:20:41.000 20 years ago, if you would have said that Delta would be anything but on team right, it would be like, if anything, they'd be in the middle, at the very worst.

00:20:52.000 But these companies are afraid of the very same campus activists that you deal with at UNLV every day.

00:20:57.000 They're afraid of being smeared, targeted, and these CEOs who are, again, supposed to be the adults of our society are acting like petulant children and saying, just give me my $25 million bonus, and I'm going to do whatever I'm told.

00:21:11.000 I'm going to get into the action steps here.

00:21:13.000 And I want to talk about one other thing because I was, did anyone see Tucker Carlson tonight?

00:21:17.000 Anyone?

00:21:17.000 I know that you guys were on your, maybe you weren't here, so I'm going to tell you exactly what happened.

00:21:20.000 It really bothered me because I was watching it on the way here.

00:21:22.000 It's an unrelated but related note.

00:21:24.000 The governor of Arkansas decided to go on Tucker.

00:21:28.000 Here's just a piece of advice.

00:21:30.000 Anyone here, if it ever applies to you, if you're going through a national crisis and Tucker disagrees with you, bad show to go on.

00:21:36.000 Like, not smart, right?

00:21:38.000 Not exactly.

00:21:39.000 So this governor, Asa Hutchinson, vetoed a bill that would have made it illegal to chemically castrate children, right?

00:21:46.000 Probably a pretty agreeable thing saying that an eight-year-old should not be able to take puberty blockers and castrate God's design.

00:21:54.000 I think that's probably a 90-10 issue, right?

00:21:57.000 I don't exactly think that's a wedge issue.

00:21:59.000 And so, and I went after him briefly on the radio today, but we ran out of time.

00:22:07.000 And then Tucker had him on a show, and this guy, Asa Hutchins, it's a really important point for everyone here.

00:22:12.000 And I want to explore it with you tonight if anyone has questions about it.

00:22:15.000 Asa Hutchinson said, well, we as conservatives believe in limited governments.

00:22:20.000 Therefore, I'm cool with eight-year-olds chemically castrating themselves.

00:22:25.000 I don't take the issue of government force lightly.

00:22:28.000 However, if government's good for anything, it's probably good for making sure that nine-year-olds don't chemically castrate themselves. 0.95

00:22:36.000 Like, unless we're going to go full Somali libertarian, like that's probably an initial form of protection against this.

00:22:43.000 And so this governor and Tucker called him out on it.

00:22:47.000 It's all tied together here.

00:22:48.000 He said, have you talked to any corporate interests about this bill?

00:22:50.000 And he denied it.

00:22:51.000 You'll see the exchange in a little bit.

00:22:53.000 It's gone completely viral.

00:22:55.000 And the main point of it is that corporate America is now basically giving the marching orders.

00:23:03.000 The CEOs are the lawmakers of America now.

00:23:06.000 Now, why is that an important development?

00:23:08.000 We never voted for these people.

00:23:11.000 We never did petition drives for them.

00:23:13.000 No one turned out in big numbers to make sure that James Quincy has a disproportionate impact on the American political zeitgeist.

00:23:22.000 So the American constitutional system is being deconstructed without any of your say by this superstructure of corporations that are acting like a government in our own country.

00:23:33.000 That's a big problem.

00:23:35.000 By the way, if there's any socialists here tonight, I'm glad you came.

00:23:38.000 You should be worried about this too. 0.94

00:23:40.000 And this is what's so ridiculous. 0.93

00:23:41.000 And I just get so fired up about this. 0.85

00:23:43.000 Like the socialists are so quiet now that corporations are running the country.

00:23:48.000 You know why?

00:23:48.000 Because they're on their team.

00:23:49.000 For now, just wait.

00:23:52.000 They'll come after you.

00:23:53.000 However, the socialists are like, oh, the corporations like us now because we all can agree that in this woke industrial complex moment, we're not going to do anything about it when they're the ones always ranting and raving about a small group of people controlling a lot of power.

00:24:06.000 And so basically in Arkansas, he vetoed the bill.

00:24:08.000 I'm pleased to say that the legislator overruled his veto.

00:24:11.000 And in Arkansas, it's now going to be illegal to administer chemical castration material to eight and nine-year-olds.

00:24:19.000 And the governor says, Oh, you know, there are studies to show that it's better for mental health of children.

00:24:25.000 And Tucker pressed him.

00:24:26.000 He said, What studies are you talking about?

00:24:28.000 Wasn't able to name one.

00:24:29.000 You know what he said?

00:24:30.000 I trust the doctors.

00:24:31.000 And I just wish the only critique I had, I Tucker said, You really trust the doctors after this last year?

00:24:36.000 Especially the ones that are like in the public front facing like Dr. Fauci, I've been wrong about everything over the last year, people.

00:24:43.000 Like, that's who you are now designing public policy around.

00:24:47.000 The people that said, don't wear masks, wear two masks.

00:24:50.000 The people that said six feet apart, virus, nothing to worry about, back to normal by July, the whole thing, right?

00:24:57.000 And transmission rates, death rates, mortality rates, children, schools, they've been wrong about everything.

00:25:03.000 And yet, these are the people that we're now crafting public policy around it.

00:25:06.000 So basically, what this governor was saying is he was using all of our, he was trying to communicate to the audience and use a weakness of the conservative movement against us.

00:25:16.000 Basically, he was like, oh, everyone's going to love what I have to say as long as I say, and he said this on the show, I'm of the tradition of Ronald Reagan and Bill Buckley, and I like limited government interference.

00:25:25.000 I'm like, boy, are you misreading the conservative movement right now?

00:25:29.000 You're misreading the conservative movement because we have a prioritization of what government should actually do.

00:25:34.000 And it starts with, I don't know, not allowing eight-year-olds to self-destruct God's design against them, which, by the way, will hurt them both chemically, psychologically, spiritually, for the rest of their life.

00:25:45.000 Like, if there's a role for government, it should probably say, this is not something we're going to put a stamp of approval behind.

00:25:51.000 And he thinks, like, oh, you know, we're going to believe in this kind of libertarian utopia where I'm against it, but I'm going to allow it to happen.

00:25:59.000 And I'm glad the libertarians came tonight.

00:26:01.000 I agree with you guys on speech, guns, and lockdowns.

00:26:03.000 That's about it.

00:26:04.000 We could talk about the rest of it.

00:26:05.000 No, seriously, I think that there should never have been any lockdowns. 0.93

00:26:07.000 And I could, it's the most ridiculous idea that we've ever had. 0.83

00:26:10.000 Seriously. 0.79

00:26:13.000 And but this idea that government should not exist at the very minimum to protect our children, let alone 20 and 30-year-olds, from making life-altering decisions when puberty starts to kick in, then don't call yourself a conservative, Governor Hutchinson of Arkansas.

00:26:34.000 I just use that example because I just watched this before, and I know a lot of you are confronted with that.

00:26:38.000 And then there's another question that we should ask ourselves: why do we love limited government?

00:26:43.000 We love limited government because we're afraid that maximum government will infringe upon your freedom, your liberty, and your lifestyle.

00:26:51.000 So we have to answer the question: why?

00:26:52.000 We don't just love limited government because it's just a catchphrase.

00:26:55.000 Well, therefore, when other actors, I don't know, like a predatory medical establishment, start to come in and deceive eight, nine, and ten-year-olds that you need unproven, highly potent chemicals being put in your body that cannot be reversed, then all of a sudden we should say to ourselves, wait a second, that's not going to make our country freer in any sense.

00:27:18.000 Actually, it'll probably do the opposite.

00:27:20.000 It'll probably make you more likely to be in a state of desperation, depression, or whatever it might be.

00:27:26.000 And so we could talk about that.

00:27:28.000 And I think that we have to get our priorities right of exactly why we are conservatives and what we believe in and how we operate.

00:27:35.000 So the Overton window.

00:27:38.000 You guys have heard it before.

00:27:39.000 We've done entire podcasts on it.

00:27:41.000 The Overton window is the spectrum of which all political ideas operate on.

00:27:46.000 And so it's a spectrum.

00:27:48.000 It was started by a guy by, I think, John Overton, was his first name, from the Mackinac Institute, of which ideas operate from unthinkable to eventually policy.

00:27:57.000 And so my thesis that I think you'll all agree with is that the most important thing we as conservatives can do is move issues along the Overton window.

00:28:06.000 And we have been awful at this.

00:28:08.000 The only person that's been good at this, in fact, the best was Donald Trump.

00:28:12.000 And by the way, he was terrific at this.

00:28:16.000 So think about it.

00:28:18.000 Donald Trump sourced the issue of immigration, trade, and ending endless wars.

00:28:22.000 Only he could have led on those issues.

00:28:25.000 And you remember how he was under attack the first press conference when he talked about the southern border. 1.00

00:28:31.000 People are coming into our country. 0.99

00:28:33.000 What did he say?

00:28:33.000 They're not always sending their best.

00:28:35.000 And people lost it.

00:28:36.000 What did he do?

00:28:37.000 He liberated a conversation on immigration that actually helped the country and helped us solve the problem.

00:28:43.000 And so for those of you that are asking, Charlie, what are our big picture aims of what we're trying to do?

00:28:48.000 We need to move the Overton window.

00:28:50.000 So it's a spectrum from something that's unthinkable.

00:28:52.000 I'll give you a great example of this.

00:28:54.000 Defund the police.

00:28:56.000 Right?

00:28:57.000 Five years ago, if I would have come up here and I would have said, defund the police is a bad idea, you guys would have been like, what are you, like Aldous Huxley, an asset or something?

00:29:06.000 Like, what's wrong with you?

00:29:07.000 Like, of course it's a bad idea, right?

00:29:08.000 And it's like, who are you?

00:29:10.000 Now you're like, yeah, it's a bad idea.

00:29:12.000 We have to stop it.

00:29:13.000 How did we go from something that was unthinkable to policy in a short period of time?

00:29:18.000 How do you move that window?

00:29:20.000 And the question is, how should we move the window positively for issues we care about?

00:29:26.000 Well, number one, you need vocal communicators, young people that are willing to unapologetically take stances on issues, not waiver against them, do it with charm and charisma, and say, you know what? 0.86

00:29:38.000 Our goal is to end abortion in America. 0.70

00:29:41.000 And then people will lose their mind, right? 0.57

00:29:43.000 Lose it.

00:29:44.000 Like, no, let's have a conversation on that.

00:29:46.000 And so, or our goal very strictly is that immigration should serve your fellow countrymen. 0.56

00:29:52.000 And when 20 million people are out of work in our country, maybe we should reform our immigration policies, have a moratorium on immigration in our country, and say college graduates should get jobs before foreign nationals. 0.80

00:30:02.000 Like, that should probably be a mission statement of the conservative movement. 0.87

00:30:06.000 The point is that we're not thinking broad enough or big enough at all.

00:30:09.000 And if there's one takeaway from the presidency of Donald Trump, there's many, and there's a lot of lessons, and there's things that could have gone differently, and I'm happy to talk about them.

00:30:18.000 But the big lessons, the positive lessons, is the bigger we think, the more likely we are to get big things done.

00:30:25.000 If our big picture vision for America is we're going to cut the estate tax for you, which is what the Senate Republicans did, they gave this long press conference two weeks ago on how they want to cut the estate tax.

00:30:36.000 By the way, I support cutting the estate tax.

00:30:38.000 I think it hurts farmers.

00:30:40.000 Fine.

00:30:41.000 Not exactly a compelling issue to go bring out the 75 million people that came and vote.

00:30:46.000 Instead, people want their country back because they feel it just feel it slipping from their fingers in a way that they can't control.

00:30:54.000 And by the way, there's nothing hateful, bigoted, or xenophobic to say that you feel like you're losing your country.

00:31:00.000 In fact, it's the opposite.

00:31:01.000 I believe that it's magnanimous, generous, benevolent, and open-minded to say that we've been given a gift and you want to preserve that gift.

00:31:09.000 Unlike the other people that have given a gift and they're like, there's nothing special about this, we're going to shatter it to pieces.

00:31:15.000 And so I want you guys to mull over that because I think that's a really important point that we don't talk about enough: how do we move the window of political discourse or any discourse in our country?

00:31:27.000 And that's partially what we're doing here tonight.

00:31:30.000 And I could say one person who's been better at this than anyone else on the left is Alexandria Casio-Cortez.

00:31:36.000 She's been really good at this.

00:31:38.000 You want to talk about, because here's why, let me prove it to you.

00:31:41.000 No one is saying $2 trillion is too much money.

00:31:45.000 Because for the last two years, we had to go run in circles saying that $127 trillion is too much money.

00:31:51.000 Right?

00:31:53.000 So what used to be considered an astronomical amount of money, all of a sudden the frame of reference completely changes because of AOC, who gets us thinking in the tens of trillions.

00:32:04.000 But then we say, yeah, $2 trillion is not that big of a deal.

00:32:06.000 Whatever, it's a bargain.

00:32:07.000 It's not that big of a deal.

00:32:09.000 And so the challenge for you is what issue matters to you most or matters most to the conservative movement.

00:32:14.000 I would submit to you would be family development, lowering the divorce rate, increasing the marriage rate, having more children, increasing church attendance, helping small businesses, and challenging the corporate oligarchy.

00:32:25.000 Those are things that matter to me, and they should matter to you.

00:32:29.000 How are we going to then make changes in that direction in our country and then communicate them?

00:32:36.000 Because the ideas that we're expressing today and our ability to defend them will manifest itself in bills tomorrow, in laws tomorrow.

00:32:45.000 And that's what the left has been really good at.

00:32:48.000 They have been non-stop on these issues, sometimes for decades.

00:32:52.000 And they're finally just reaping the fruit, I guess you could say, of that strategy.

00:32:59.000 So that's something to think about and something of why what you're doing is so important on these college campuses, because just the presence of a singular conservative idea on these university campuses is everything.

00:33:10.000 The fact that it's 99 to 1 is so important because I guarantee you there's at least another 20 or 30% of people that are afraid.

00:33:19.000 We'll talk about that too if people have questions about it because I guarantee there will be.

00:33:21.000 People afraid to speak out, people afraid to say something.

00:33:24.000 It's one of the number one problems in the country.

00:33:26.000 And that's why what you're doing and you being here is so critically important, so just imperative for our country.

00:33:32.000 And so this can happen in three ways.

00:33:36.000 And then we'll get to questions.

00:33:37.000 Number one is we must repeat our message and repeat it with charm every single day.

00:33:41.000 Number two, we must build new channels.

00:33:44.000 We have a distribution problem in our country, right?

00:33:47.000 We have a piping issue.

00:33:49.000 We cannot get an idea from point A to point B.

00:33:52.000 I think you'd all agree at that, right?

00:33:54.000 You probably say that if only my neighbors were able to see the correct news flow, if only my sister was able to see the correct news flow, the country would be in a better place.

00:34:05.000 Instead, they're propagandized by the media or by whatever it might be.

00:34:08.000 So the problem is first, obviously capturing their ideas in ways that can make sense, but then you, and here's your call to action, you must become a social network.

00:34:20.000 You must now do the work that you used to depend on Facebook on.

00:34:24.000 That's right.

00:34:25.000 You have to go text your friends articles, things to think about, podcasts, videos, memes, whatever it might be.

00:34:33.000 There was a way to communicate before Facebook.

00:34:34.000 I know that's an incredibly, yeah, my space.

00:34:37.000 Yeah, exactly right.

00:34:39.000 Or AOL Instant Messenger.

00:34:41.000 And so I know that's a hard thing for people to grasp, but that was a way.

00:34:45.000 You now need to become the new social network.

00:34:47.000 You start book clubs, coffee meetups, community gatherings.

00:34:50.000 If every person here did that, eventually we're going to create, we have to buy ourselves some time is what I'm trying to say.

00:34:58.000 Is that there's finally competitors coming up.

00:35:00.000 There's Rumble, R-U-M-B-L-E.com, YouTube competitor.

00:35:04.000 Everyone should go download the app and check it out.

00:35:06.000 If you really want to crush Google, they're finally getting started.

00:35:09.000 They're doing a great job, rumble.com.

00:35:11.000 We have to support the competitors.

00:35:13.000 I'm afraid that we lost an opportunity to crush these companies when we should have.

00:35:16.000 I'll get it.

00:35:17.000 I can get into that.

00:35:18.000 So we have to build new channels.

00:35:19.000 And the third thing is this, which is perseverance, which is, I know it's hard right now.

00:35:25.000 I get it.

00:35:26.000 However, we're barnstorming the country.

00:35:29.000 Our turning point USA team is doing an unbelievable job.

00:35:31.000 We are in Oklahoma, Missouri, Kentucky, Nashville.

00:35:33.000 We're here in Vegas.

00:35:34.000 Why are we here?

00:35:36.000 We're here for a lot of different reasons.

00:35:37.000 But more than anything else, I'm trying to send a statement to anyone who wishes to watch that disagrees or wants us.

00:35:44.000 It's like, no, we're going to keep gathering.

00:35:46.000 We're going to keep thinking.

00:35:47.000 We're going to keep organizing.

00:35:48.000 We're going to keep our spirit up and our chin up.

00:35:52.000 And we're actually happier than they are despite them winning everything.

00:35:55.000 You notice that?

00:35:56.000 They're the angriest winners in the history of the planet.

00:36:00.000 And as long as they have not, and don't get me wrong, there's plenty of problems, right?

00:36:05.000 Plenty of things to be upset about.

00:36:06.000 I could talk about it now.

00:36:08.000 Insofar that you don't allow them to take your charm from you, then they're never actually going to win.

00:36:16.000 Because that's the one thing that you have that they don't have.

00:36:19.000 You go watch the late night comedy shows.

00:36:21.000 They are the angriest people.

00:36:22.000 There's no comedy.

00:36:23.000 You notice no one laughs in their live audience.

00:36:25.000 Everyone just claps.

00:36:26.000 That's why Greg Gutfeld's show is going to do so well because it's finally someone who's, I have a whole speech on comedy I could do that I'm not going to do, but comedy is the true pursuit of truth because you laugh when something is true.

00:36:38.000 You laugh when all of a sudden it touches home and it confirms something you know in a way that you never would have thought of before.

00:36:42.000 And the reason why no one laughs anymore is no one's saying things that are true anymore.

00:36:46.000 Instead, they say a bunch of stuff they agree with that aren't true and you clap.

00:36:49.000 So Jimmy Kimmel has become a political commentator instead of a comedian.

00:36:53.000 And that model is easily disrupted.

00:36:55.000 And this town has plenty of comedians.

00:36:57.000 And so something you guys would know about.

00:36:59.000 Okay, I want to get to some questions.

00:37:01.000 I want to just tie that all together, though, is that in order for us to actually make a meaningful difference, you have to stop delegating the responsibility to other people.

00:37:10.000 No more spectator sports stuff.

00:37:11.000 I get these emails and I love our listeners.

00:37:14.000 I learned so much from our listeners.

00:37:15.000 I could actually, I could do a podcast every week of what I learned from our listeners.

00:37:19.000 We have the smartest listeners on the planet, truly.

00:37:21.000 And I actually mentioned some of the stuff here, but I get some emails of people that say, Charlie, I'm counting on you.

00:37:27.000 I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, what?

00:37:30.000 No, no, no.

00:37:30.000 This is not a spectator sport, okay?

00:37:33.000 This is not all of a sudden you're placing a sports bet at Caesar's Palace and hoping Baylor beats Gonzaga, right?

00:37:40.000 Like, that's not how this works.

00:37:41.000 You're in the game, okay?

00:37:43.000 You're an active participant in this.

00:37:45.000 Some people are going to be more involved than others, right?

00:37:48.000 Some people will be more vocal.

00:37:52.000 Some people are not able to be as vocal.

00:37:54.000 But you have to do something in this together.

00:37:56.000 And so you got to cut out the spectator sport idea and then also understand that your salvation is not just going to come on Air Force One one day.

00:38:04.000 And I have to say this, and I mean this as well. 1.00

00:38:08.000 You guys got to cut out this hopium stuff, okay? 0.99

00:38:10.000 The stuff that you're reading on these message boards, none of it came true. 0.96

00:38:13.000 I got more emails about this stuff.

00:38:15.000 Like, Mike Pence is in Gitmo.

00:38:16.000 Like, no, he's not.

00:38:17.000 Trump's not becoming president in August.

00:38:19.000 Trump's not becoming president next week.

00:38:21.000 Some of you guys might know these things.

00:38:23.000 You just got to stop it and just focus on what is real and true.

00:38:26.000 Like, Charlie, what's real and true?

00:38:27.000 We spend six hours a day researching and going through this stuff.

00:38:30.000 When we get something wrong, we'll correct it.

00:38:32.000 But I actually believe we were less active as a conservative movement because people believe like, you don't understand there's a plan and there's massive arrests happening.

00:38:39.000 Like, no, there isn't.

00:38:40.000 These are written by leftists trying to convince you to stay at home and do nothing when none of this stuff was ever going to happen.

00:38:48.000 None of it.

00:38:49.000 And it's tough love that I have to give a lot of people, but it's written by psychopaths sometimes that quite honestly want to manipulate you into inaction so they can then dominate the country.

00:38:59.000 So, and if some of you are like, what are you talking about?

00:39:02.000 Some of you are nodding your head.

00:39:03.000 Some of you completely disagree and you think that Trump's going to be president next week.

00:39:07.000 And okay.

00:39:10.000 I hope you're right.

00:39:11.000 Let's put it that way.

00:39:13.000 Okay, let's do some questions.

00:39:15.000 And thank you guys.

00:39:15.000 This was a lot of fun.

00:39:16.000 That was just my opening remarks.

00:39:17.000 So thank you.

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00:40:23.000 Hey, good afternoon, Charlie.

00:40:24.000 My name is Marcos.

00:40:25.000 I'm a first-generation American and proud veteran of this country.

00:40:28.000 Thank you for your service.

00:40:30.000 Thank you.

00:40:31.000 So, you know, we talk about taking action.

00:40:34.000 We talk about how these corporate leaders are afraid of the R-word.

00:40:38.000 But honestly, being, you know, a person of color, you know, the only racist remarks I hear every day in the media are coming from the white liberal who thinks I can't do math. 0.99

00:40:49.000 I can't get a freaking driver's license. 0.99

00:40:51.000 I can't read. 0.97

00:40:52.000 And somehow I made it to college by being a victim.

00:40:54.000 All right. 1.00

00:40:55.000 So if we want to take action, how do we wake up these minorities and how do we get our conservative people who are colorblind? 0.89

00:41:04.000 And I trust them more than any white liberal any day to not be racist.

00:41:08.000 How do we team up and fight back against these white liberals with these ideas that we're all illiterate, can't get a driver's license, and we're somehow victims just because I was born a little bit darker?

00:41:18.000 So I want you guys to listen to that closely.

00:41:21.000 It's already happening.

00:41:23.000 And you being here and talking with this much force, they're very worried.

00:41:27.000 And they should be because I'm telling you, if we do our job in 10 years, the Latino community will be a majority conservative community in our country.

00:41:35.000 It won't even be close.

00:41:38.000 And I have the same sort of hope and optimism in black America.

00:41:44.000 Candace Owens, phenomenal, doing a great job with this.

00:41:50.000 And she was our communications director for a couple of years.

00:41:53.000 So here's the one piece of advice I have for you: you need to get louder and noisier because whether we like it or not, identity politics is what drives a lot of this conversation in our country.

00:42:06.000 And you, being a first-generation immigrant, do you speak Spanish or speak Spanish?

00:42:11.000 And you served our country because they value arguments from identity over truth. 0.99

00:42:20.000 I'm not a big fan of that.

00:42:21.000 Then we need to get you a bigger platform and you need to speak out even more.

00:42:25.000 It's hard though because you're going to be called the nasty. 0.98

00:42:27.000 He will be called nastier stuff than anyone in this room will if you're a white conservative, just to be very blunt, because they'll say you're a race traitor. 0.98

00:42:35.000 You've probably been called that. 0.94

00:42:36.000 All these different things.

00:42:37.000 And so what do we do to help break it up?

00:42:40.000 We need to be very serious about not allowing the media to convince us that the way things are is the way things will be, that we can make serious movements in that in one direction.

00:42:53.000 And I'll be very honest with you. 0.58

00:42:54.000 The white upper middle class liberals, I think, are the most sanctimonious, self-righteous people in the country. 0.97

00:43:03.000 That if there was a group of people that are actually the most racist, as you say, they are the most racist people in the country. 0.97

00:43:11.000 It's not even close.

00:43:13.000 And they're on this kind of never underestimate the power of white guilt ever. 0.52

00:43:19.000 It's one of the most powerful things in the country that dictates so much public policy.

00:43:25.000 But I have hope and optimism because we are getting more questions like this.

00:43:29.000 Charlie, what can I do?

00:43:30.000 What can I do?

00:43:32.000 Man, let's make more noise.

00:43:33.000 Let's get our message out.

00:43:34.000 Let's communicate again. 1.00

00:43:35.000 We have to fix the distribution problem because a lot of the portals of communication in the Hispanic community tend to be very, very far to the left.

00:43:43.000 And Telemundo, Univision, just to name a couple.

00:43:46.000 So we've got to fix that problem.

00:43:47.000 But people like you are the solution. 0.99

00:43:49.000 And so we have a Latino summit coming up in Phoenix next week.

00:43:54.000 So I hope you're there and we're trying to do our part to that.

00:43:57.000 But I want to thank you for being here tonight.

00:43:58.000 And thank you again for your service.

00:43:59.000 It's terrific.

00:44:02.000 And if anyone disagrees, feel free to cut in line.

00:44:06.000 So yeah, just whatever.

00:44:08.000 Yeah.

00:44:09.000 Okay.

00:44:09.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:44:10.000 At any time, it's fine.

00:44:11.000 You can get your stuff prepped and then come up.

00:44:13.000 So.

00:44:13.000 Sweet, sweet.

00:44:14.000 Hey, Charlie, I just want to say I'm a huge fan.

00:44:16.000 Just want to say congrats on your engagement.

00:44:18.000 Thank you.

00:44:18.000 Erica's right here.

00:44:20.000 Hey.

00:44:23.000 Awesome.

00:44:24.000 So I don't know if you heard recently, but Joe Biden said, and I quote, in a few years, I have no idea if there will be a Republican Party.

00:44:32.000 Do you think that's a gaffe or a threat?

00:44:34.000 Boy, that is a really good question.

00:44:36.000 I heard him say that too, and it kind of almost sent a chill down my spine, to be perfectly honest with you.

00:44:43.000 So I said, Was he told to say this?

00:44:45.000 Is there some sort of plan that we don't know about?

00:44:48.000 Was this just kind of a typical Joe Biden moment where he's like falling upstairs, the first person ever to fall up the stairs in the history of the country?

00:44:55.000 It's never happened.

00:44:56.000 I've never seen it actually.

00:44:57.000 It was an act of anti-gravitational just three times, two, three times.

00:45:03.000 Someone's got to get that guy life alert really soon.

00:45:05.000 You know, that's, and by the way, I wouldn't make fun of him if he wasn't destroying the country.

00:45:10.000 Let me just be very clear, okay?

00:45:12.000 I don't just make fun of people lightly, but when you're taking a meat cleaver to Western civilization, the bets are off when you fall up the stairs and then all of a sudden no one talks about it.

00:45:23.000 Okay.

00:45:24.000 So do I think it's a threat?

00:45:27.000 I mean, look, do I think that there's a plan that they're trying to unfold to silence all of us, intimidate you, and suffocate us, pass HR1, and create a one-party state in this country?

00:45:38.000 Absolutely.

00:45:39.000 And I just want to be very clear.

00:45:43.000 I've said this a lot, and I need to say it every event.

00:45:46.000 And people on the live stream are going to say, oh, we've heard him say this a thousand times.

00:45:49.000 Well, repetition is a solo memory.

00:45:51.000 How many times have you heard this phrase?

00:45:53.000 We all want the same thing.

00:45:55.000 We just have different ways to get there.

00:45:58.000 From conservatives say that too, right?

00:46:00.000 I was taught this in high school.

00:46:03.000 I think to myself, what an effective lie to have us all of a sudden yield the terrain of good intentions to people that bitterly want to burn America.

00:46:13.000 Let me be very clear. 0.94

00:46:14.000 They want a million abortions a year, which we currently have. 0.97

00:46:17.000 I want zero. 1.00

00:46:18.000 They want women's sports abolished. 1.00

00:46:20.000 I want women's sports to be preserved. 0.62

00:46:22.000 They want open borders. 1.00

00:46:24.000 I want a border wall.

00:46:25.000 They want confiscation of weapons.

00:46:27.000 I want you guys to be able to buy a weapon and protect yourself. 0.68

00:46:30.000 We want different Americas. 0.94

00:46:31.000 We don't want the same thing. 0.99

00:46:32.000 They want a completely different thing.

00:46:35.000 And so they don't mean well.

00:46:38.000 And this is-I don't mean individual liberals.

00:46:41.000 There are good individual liberals.

00:46:44.000 There are good individual leftists.

00:46:47.000 There's a difference between liberals and leftists.

00:46:49.000 Happy to build that out for you guys if there's interest in that.

00:46:54.000 But the main difference is liberals value free speech, leftists don't.

00:46:57.000 Liberals are like Alan Dershowitz, or in that tradition, leftists are like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:47:02.000 That's the best kind of juxtaposition I could give there.

00:47:06.000 So I don't know, but you guys better take that threat very seriously.

00:47:10.000 That there is even, I guess what you understand the significance.

00:47:13.000 Could you imagine if Donald Trump gave a press conference and said, oh, yeah, if the Democrat Party, if it even exists?

00:47:20.000 There would have been, I kid you not, a front-page New York Times article that said, Donald Trump's trying to mobilize the military against Democrats.

00:47:27.000 I guarantee you.

00:47:28.000 Like that would have been the front page of the New York Times.

00:47:31.000 And we just got to say, it's like, oh, yeah, it's like a not, no, that's a really, that's half the country.

00:47:38.000 And again, maybe he's just doing what Joe Biden does and he just kind of slips and does whatever.

00:47:43.000 I'm not so sure.

00:47:44.000 I think that they're trying.

00:47:45.000 I am a believer, and I'll go with anyone.

00:47:49.000 I think that they're trying to go for the jugular.

00:47:51.000 I think this is their moment.

00:47:53.000 They've waited long enough.

00:47:54.000 They want a one-party state like California where we're just the annoying minority.

00:47:59.000 And, you know, they throw us a crumb every once in a while.

00:48:01.000 And we have no chance to ever get back into serious power.

00:48:06.000 This is their big attempted final blow.

00:48:08.000 If we could steer it off, the Republic can survive.

00:48:12.000 But I think that's what they want to do politically.

00:48:14.000 That's their big driving force.

00:48:15.000 Thank you for being here.

00:48:16.000 Thanks.

00:48:22.000 Good evening, Charlie.

00:48:23.000 Thank you so much for being here.

00:48:25.000 My name is Angel, and I am actually a first-year immigrant from China.

00:48:28.000 I moved here when I was 12.

00:48:30.000 And I think my question for you is: how can people who are like me, who's fled actual socialism and communism, to start speaking up about our experiences?

00:48:39.000 And are there any tips and pointers for how do we start utilizing the platform and start letting our voices be heard?

00:48:45.000 So why don't you expand on that for the audience?

00:48:48.000 How is what you're seeing here similar to what you saw in communist China?

00:48:53.000 So a lot of times in China, actually growing up is really tough for me because there's a lot of conformities going on and they want to shape all of the kids into a really good student who is able to ace every single test.

00:49:05.000 And obviously I was not one of those, unfortunately.

00:49:07.000 And I have too much individuality.

00:49:09.000 So I was, you know, hideaway from everybody.

00:49:12.000 I was judged a lot.

00:49:13.000 I was called many of names.

00:49:15.000 And so far, I'm seeing the same thing for conservatives, too.

00:49:18.000 People who are different, people who celebrate individualities are actually getting discriminated against everything else or, you know, what they're believing in.

00:49:25.000 And that is one similarity that I am seeing.

00:49:27.000 And I am freaking out about it.

00:49:29.000 And I have no way how to educate other people about this because I fled there.

00:49:32.000 I've experienced it firsthand.

00:49:34.000 My family has suffered.

00:49:35.000 And I want people to start realizing and waking up about all these lies they're being fed into.

00:49:40.000 First of all, we're glad you're here and not there.

00:49:41.000 I'll tell you that.

00:49:47.000 I will repeat what I said.

00:49:49.000 Was it Marcos?

00:49:50.000 Did I get that right?

00:49:51.000 That name right?

00:49:52.000 Your wonderful comments.

00:49:54.000 We need to have more people listen to you.

00:49:56.000 My biggest frustration in America is the statement: it can't happen here.

00:50:05.000 Alexander Soshenitsyn, who's a man that every single person should know, let alone every conservative should know, wrote a book called the Gulag Archipelago.

00:50:15.000 And he famously had a quote: he said, the biggest lie fed by communists to Westerners is this idea that it can't happen here.

00:50:22.000 Show me a place where it couldn't happen in the 20th century.

00:50:25.000 Everyone said that. 0.99

00:50:26.000 That can't happen in Cuba.

00:50:28.000 Can't happen in mainland China.

00:50:30.000 Can't happen in Russia.

00:50:32.000 And it happened in every single place.

00:50:34.000 There was a Soviet dissident.

00:50:35.000 I was just reading this the other night.

00:50:37.000 And she had a phenomenal quote that is more timely than ever.

00:50:41.000 She said, you know, you're entering soft totalitarianism when you don't know if what you do today could mean the end of your lifestyle or your life or career tomorrow.

00:50:53.000 Think about that.

00:50:54.000 Where that you're judged on something you did a decade ago, like reading a Dr. Seuss book or having gone with the wind in your curriculum.

00:51:04.000 That's pure totalitarianism.

00:51:06.000 And quite honestly, I meet so many people like you, and they all have the same intensity.

00:51:12.000 I just wish Americans would listen.

00:51:15.000 I have a glowing, just a little bit of a flare of optimism because I think Americans are late to the game and we eventually wake up.

00:51:21.000 Call myself foolishly optimistic, and that's optimistic. 0.99

00:51:24.000 That's fine. 1.00

00:51:24.000 I'll say this: is that when I talk to immigrants that have seen communism and socialism, they'll say one of them, they'll say one thing, which is that Americans won't realize it until they lived it. 1.00

00:51:38.000 That's something you probably feel to yourself. 1.00

00:51:40.000 Like, you guys are all idiots. 1.00

00:51:41.000 You don't get it. 1.00

00:51:42.000 You're going to have to all of a sudden see it for yourself.

00:51:44.000 I hope that's not the case.

00:51:46.000 And the second thing, I think it's such an unbelievable disservice for those of us that live in America to not listen to the warnings of the people that almost died under these ideologies.

00:52:00.000 And so the question is: what do we actually do about it and how do we get the message out?

00:52:08.000 And again, you being here and spreading truth is so important.

00:52:12.000 It's the most important thing.

00:52:14.000 And they don't want your story to be able to get out.

00:52:17.000 They want to kind of hypnotize Americans into inaction.

00:52:21.000 But I'm going to repeat, I'm going to tell you one story.

00:52:23.000 Americans are almost always late to the game. 0.99

00:52:26.000 It's our charming attribute.

00:52:30.000 When World War II was raging, Winston Churchill did everything he could.

00:52:35.000 The greatest man of the 20th century, by the way, Winston Churchill.

00:52:38.000 And every young person should know they're Winston Churchill, and the fact they're removing them from schools is such an unbelievable disservice.

00:52:44.000 It's just beyond.

00:52:45.000 He wrote 50 books, Saved Western Civilization, twice British Prime Minister, more knowledge of the classics and philosophy than any other person.

00:52:53.000 The guy was unbelievably brilliant.

00:52:55.000 We're supposed to believe that.

00:52:56.000 We're just supposed to toss him out.

00:52:57.000 But Winston Churchill famously said, I said this last night at Calvary Chapel, when Pearl Harbor happened, he was sitting with his war cabinet and comes in and his messenger says, Sir, Imperial Japan just bombed the port in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.

00:53:14.000 And he turns up to his war cabinet and he says, Well, we just won the war.

00:53:19.000 So, what are you talking about?

00:53:21.000 Said, start planning what we're going to ask for when we win.

00:53:25.000 Said, the Americans are mad.

00:53:27.000 We're going to win.

00:53:28.000 He walked out of the room.

00:53:30.000 Once we wake up, watch out.

00:53:33.000 And it might take a lot.

00:53:34.000 I don't know what it's going to be.

00:53:35.000 As the great Ernest Hemingway said, things happen gradually than suddenly.

00:53:40.000 He was so great.

00:53:41.000 Again, do they even teach Hemingway anymore? 0.84

00:53:43.000 He was a white male. 0.67

00:53:43.000 No, of course not. 0.67

00:53:44.000 Why would you teach?

00:53:45.000 You know, nothing nice to say. 0.96

00:53:46.000 No Shakespeare, no Hemingway, no Mark Twain, but I'm sure you get Angela Davis and Robin DiAngelo and all that garbage.

00:53:53.000 Ernest Hemingway had such an amazing ability to say so much and so little.

00:53:57.000 Brevity is the soul of wit.

00:53:59.000 And gradually then suddenly.

00:54:01.000 And I think that there is going to be a moment, and again, I'm praying for this, when all of a sudden we're going to have this where we say, that's it.

00:54:10.000 We are now awake.

00:54:11.000 I think we've gotten close to it in certain moments, but they will push too far.

00:54:17.000 And as long as there's gatherings like this of standing room only, of people that are listening and they're sharing information, it can happen very quickly.

00:54:24.000 And hold out that hope, everybody, because what they want you to do is they want you not to attend events like this tonight.

00:54:31.000 They want you to instead watch, what is that ridiculous show, Bridgington or whatever on Netflix?

00:54:36.000 Whatever.

00:54:37.000 I don't even follow that stuff.

00:54:38.000 You should have a Netflix subscription.

00:54:39.000 They want you to do that instead of coming here and waiting for that moment.

00:54:43.000 Because when it cracks, we don't even know what it looks like.

00:54:46.000 But tyranny is a very tricky thing.

00:54:50.000 But as soon as there's a response and a rebellion to tyranny, of course, peacefully, because that's who we are, then all of a sudden they're going to lose.

00:54:57.000 Do you have a follow-up comment that you want to make?

00:54:59.000 Unfortunately, I do.

00:55:00.000 I'm actually from California too.

00:55:02.000 My chapter is a little bit different.

00:55:03.000 You went from one communist place to the other.

00:55:05.000 I know. 0.97

00:55:05.000 It's so unfortunate. 0.97

00:55:07.000 And I actually want to point it out that my chapter leader, Raul, actually is an immigrant as well.

00:55:12.000 And people like us have stories I want to share.

00:55:14.000 But in California, we're always being shut down about the things that we want to bring to the table.

00:55:19.000 And I think it's just really tough for all of us to, especially people like us who've seen it firsthand, who's experienced it, and families suffer from it.

00:55:26.000 And I just want to ask you one really quick follow-up.

00:55:28.000 Like, what is there for us to do in California specifically?

00:55:31.000 Because it is so tough on liberal campuses right now, especially for me.

00:55:35.000 I've actually been discriminated a lot.

00:55:36.000 And people question me if I'm actually an immigrant.

00:55:39.000 And like, what is there for us to do to actually be able to take it off in California, a place where socialism is literally growing every single corner?

00:55:47.000 Yeah, look, boy, California's got its own problems.

00:55:49.000 I'm actually more optimistic about California.

00:55:50.000 And again, I'm going to say this not on behalf of Turning Point because this is a political thing.

00:55:54.000 The fact that there's a political referendum against Gavin Newsom gives me hope.

00:56:00.000 And so this is a really good thing.

00:56:03.000 And which is, and this is where we should take a page out of this.

00:56:09.000 I know so many of the California people that were behind it, including my pastor, Rob McCoy, and many others.

00:56:14.000 It's time for us to play offense, everybody.

00:56:17.000 It's time for us.

00:56:18.000 We might lose the recall.

00:56:19.000 Who cares?

00:56:21.000 Gavin Newsom is waking up, shaving, showering, and eating, thinking about the fact that he might lose power.

00:56:27.000 We've already won if that's the case, okay?

00:56:29.000 The fact that we're living in his head is an awesome thing.

00:56:33.000 And that's where you should field candidates for every position.

00:56:36.000 I'm talking personally here.

00:56:37.000 And so, California, you want to talk about a long-term project?

00:56:42.000 That's California.

00:56:43.000 But guess what?

00:56:44.000 California was a long-term project for them.

00:56:47.000 California used to be the state of the future. 0.93

00:56:49.000 California was one of the reddest states in the country that had Nixon and Reagan from it.

00:56:54.000 You're Belinda and Reagan as governor.

00:56:57.000 Not that way anymore.

00:56:58.000 Change for a lot of reasons, immigration being one of them.

00:57:01.000 But they were relentless. 0.91

00:57:02.000 They took over the civil service.

00:57:03.000 They took over the teacher unions, took over all of it.

00:57:05.000 So you have to be relentless against it.

00:57:07.000 And you have to win the small ones to win the big one.

00:57:10.000 So you're going to win a school board race.

00:57:12.000 You're going to win a mayor's race, right?

00:57:14.000 You're going to get more people activated.

00:57:16.000 But again, the worst thing you can do is play into the attitude of despair.

00:57:20.000 The worst thing.

00:57:21.000 No shot.

00:57:22.000 Forget it.

00:57:24.000 I'm going to at least get a nice beach house when they burn everything to the ground.

00:57:27.000 I hope they eat me last.

00:57:29.000 I have no patience for that attitude, by the way.

00:57:31.000 Move to France.

00:57:32.000 That's what they do really well. 1.00

00:57:34.000 No, the French are known. 0.99

00:57:35.000 Anyone's French, I don't mean to insult the French, but I kind of make fun of them because they make fun of us. 0.99

00:57:39.000 They're known for two things: the white flag and the tourniquet. 1.00

00:57:41.000 That's it.

00:57:42.000 So if you want to go surrender, go to France.

00:57:45.000 We fight here in America and we win and we're going to win this battle.

00:57:50.000 So nice to see you again, Charlie.

00:57:52.000 So the question I have is simple.

00:57:55.000 The media organizations out there, I'm not going to name any for respect, that often when they put clips on YouTube and social media, they often have this person destroys, annihilates, et cetera, et cetera.

00:58:10.000 Do you think that helps Turning Point and other organizations reach out to those who oppose with opposing views?

00:58:18.000 Because they might feel alienated because they feel like they're going to be put on viral and sort of with these, I don't know how to say it, but do you think this sort of aggressive rhetoric of, you know, this person just destroys this young college student who just had a simple question and may be misguided?

00:58:41.000 Do you think that helps, you know, I guess all of us come together?

00:58:45.000 Yeah.

00:58:46.000 Well, I don't know if our goal is to come together.

00:58:48.000 Let me be clear.

00:58:49.000 Our goal is to win, right?

00:58:50.000 So I know, no, but you're right.

00:58:53.000 And you have a really good question.

00:58:54.000 No, look, I think, and look, we do those posts all the time.

00:58:58.000 And for a couple of reasons.

00:58:59.000 First of all, I want the most amount of visibility in eyeballs possible.

00:59:02.000 And we're in a huge competition for attention online.

00:59:05.000 And so, and we're not misrepresenting, I don't think we're misrepresenting the clip.

00:59:09.000 You guys can, you know, judge for yourself.

00:59:12.000 Probably a reason why we don't have many people volunteering to go disagree tonight.

00:59:15.000 Go figure that one out.

00:59:16.000 It's like a winnowing and winnowing pool.

00:59:17.000 But I think that's probably a fair point that you make, which is that, you know, what is the intent and the purpose?

00:59:23.000 And I think I'd have to look at it from a piece-by-piece type thing, but generally, I'll stand by our strategy, which is if you publicly want to come up and say something really dumb in front of millions of people, then I'm not going to be shy in publicizing that exchange.

00:59:41.000 In fact, I'll make the argument it's actually really helpful for people to see how to properly respond to these things and how to be able to debate against it.

00:59:48.000 And so, but yeah, I think it's a well-intentioned comment.

00:59:51.000 Do I think generally it helps?

00:59:53.000 I think it's a strategy that absolutely works because we are in a position right now that we want to see our ideas win.

01:00:01.000 And let me tell you why those videos do well.

01:00:03.000 Because whether you realize it or not, when you log onto the internet and you search anything political, you're like, all I see is my ideas losing.

01:00:11.000 I see my ideas losing on the Washington Post.

01:00:13.000 I see my ideas losing in MSNBC.

01:00:15.000 Can anyone win, please?

01:00:18.000 And that's why those videos do well, because it's actually an opportunity there.

01:00:22.000 Is the language destroys and all that?

01:00:24.000 Again, that's more internet lingo, right?

01:00:25.000 And again, I'm happy to discourse to anyone about that.

01:00:27.000 But I think that's a very good question.

01:00:28.000 I appreciate it.

01:00:29.000 Thank you.

01:00:34.000 Thank you, Charlie.

01:00:35.000 Big time.

01:00:35.000 But one question is: what do you think is the best path forward to 2024?

01:00:42.000 Is it Trump?

01:00:43.000 Is it Trump Jr.?

01:00:45.000 Candace Owens?

01:00:47.000 So I will, I'll talk personally, not on behalf of Turning Point here.

01:00:52.000 No.

01:00:54.000 So I think it's way, way, way too preemptive to even be talking about it.

01:01:00.000 People say, who do I like?

01:01:01.000 I think Ron DeSantis is acing every single test that's thrown at me, right?

01:01:05.000 But it's early, right?

01:01:07.000 I've known him for a while, and he's been terrific.

01:01:10.000 And the way CBS went after him the other day was just so despicable, and he handled it brilliantly.

01:01:14.000 But I think we got to get a couple other things right before we even talk about that.

01:01:18.000 Number one, we have to fix the way we do elections in our country.

01:01:21.000 We have to fix the way that we have mail-in absentee balloting.

01:01:23.000 We have to fix the way we do elections in our country.

01:01:26.000 Then we have to have a really, really good 2022, right?

01:01:29.000 A really good 2022.

01:01:32.000 And we have to take back the House and hopefully the Senate.

01:01:36.000 We have to take back Chambers of Power and hopefully disrupt their kind of uniparty that they have running in Washington, D.C.

01:01:43.000 And beyond that, I hope we have a really spirited debate.

01:01:45.000 If Trump ends up running, that'll be the right decision.

01:01:48.000 And if he doesn't end up running, that'll be the right decision.

01:01:51.000 It's all on what he believes he can offer.

01:01:54.000 He comes with a ton of positives.

01:01:57.000 And the positives are obviously his ability to draw crowds.

01:02:00.000 He's a former president.

01:02:01.000 He has a record to run on.

01:02:02.000 He's a brilliant communicator.

01:02:04.000 And we all know the negatives.

01:02:06.000 There's a portion of the country that no matter what he does, they will not entertain voting for him.

01:02:10.000 So we have to weigh that, you know, that cost and that benefit way too early to tell.

01:02:15.000 But I could tell you this: that if we don't fix the way we do elections, if we don't broaden our movement and get better at articulating our ideas, it's kind of irrelevant, right?

01:02:24.000 Which is partially one of my main focuses and mission on that.

01:02:27.000 And also, we have to fix the tech landscape.

01:02:30.000 We have to have a YouTube competitor.

01:02:31.000 Hopefully it's Rumble.

01:02:32.000 We have to have a Twitter competitor.

01:02:34.000 Maybe Parlor will be back online.

01:02:35.000 We have to have a search engine competitor.

01:02:37.000 By 2024, if we're still operating in this triangle of tyranny, the triangle of tyranny is Facebook, Google, and Twitter.

01:02:46.000 Forget it.

01:02:46.000 We're done.

01:02:48.000 We have to create our own infrastructure of distribution, or else we're just going to have the same thing happen again, where you have the next president's son who mysteriously drops off a laptop at a computer repair shop with X-rated material that's now on the Chinese internet of stuff that if anyone in this room did, you'd be in a place without bail.

01:03:08.000 Let's just put it that way, right?

01:03:10.000 And allegedly, I have to say, whatever.

01:03:12.000 And so, but then you're not even allowed to talk about it on Twitter, Facebook, or these other places.

01:03:17.000 And if you do, you lose access to your accounts.

01:03:19.000 That can never happen again.

01:03:21.000 That is direct election interference.

01:03:23.000 And so we have to think more, less about who and more about what does the landscape and the infrastructure look like.

01:03:30.000 Does that make sense?

01:03:31.000 We have to fix the way that we actually mechanically go about administering our elections and doing these sort of processes.

01:03:38.000 And then the rest, I think, will figure itself out.

01:03:39.000 And the other thing is this.

01:03:40.000 People say, who do we support all this?

01:03:42.000 Just be active in the primary and clear.

01:03:45.000 This is actually a really important state for it, obviously.

01:03:48.000 Just when they come through here, which by the way, their little whistle-stop tour is going to start a year from January here, maybe even earlier.

01:03:56.000 So you just look at them in the eyes and you ask them very clear questions about things that matter to you.

01:04:01.000 And if you smell nonsense, call them out on it.

01:04:03.000 So thank you.

01:04:04.000 I appreciate it.

01:04:10.000 Hey, how are we doing, Charlie?

01:04:11.000 We just flew out from Grand Canyon University just to be here.

01:04:14.000 So yeah.

01:04:14.000 Awesome.

01:04:15.000 Yeah.

01:04:15.000 It's a great school.

01:04:18.000 So my question was just about social media.

01:04:20.000 You actually just started talking about it, which is crazy because I was going to ask about that.

01:04:24.000 But pretty much my opinion or my question is, what is your opinion on, for example, like Justice Thomas talking about Twitter being a public forum compared to it being a private company?

01:04:36.000 I know you were talking about the private company earlier or the private companies and how they're, how, how much of a private company are they if they're being helped by the government and all that stuff.

01:04:44.000 So do you think it's better that we go for things like section or 230 and things like that?

01:04:51.000 Or is it better to pretty much go and like try to make our own social media platforms privately, even though the other ones are so big, is that even going to work?

01:04:59.000 I think it has to be an all of the above strategy.

01:05:02.000 And so we have to get them in the courts.

01:05:05.000 We have to hopefully get some rulings that will break them up that say it's not good for a country that all search results, which is the ability to go find information, 92% of them is controlled by one company.

01:05:17.000 That's not a good thing or a healthy thing for the country.

01:05:19.000 And so Justice Thomas just wrote an unbelievable piece.

01:05:24.000 It was kind of, I think it was an opinion on a case.

01:05:27.000 I couldn't quite figure out.

01:05:28.000 He just kind of meandered into this issue and just wrote about it for like six pages.

01:05:32.000 And he said, and it was so brilliant.

01:05:34.000 He said, these companies, you know what they do?

01:05:36.000 All they do is connect point A to point B.

01:05:39.000 These are carriers.

01:05:41.000 They don't pour over creating content.

01:05:44.000 They don't have massive production costs.

01:05:47.000 They simply connect people from point A to point B. Therefore, they should be regulated like communication carriers.

01:05:52.000 And I sympathize with that argument.

01:05:54.000 And so here's the argument that I make.

01:05:54.000 I do.

01:05:57.000 From a natural rights doctrine perspective, anytime our First Amendment rights are violated, that should bother us, especially by companies that are more powerful than our own governments.

01:06:09.000 And these companies are more powerful than our own government.

01:06:12.000 And so I'll use the Chicago example, and I've used it before, and it's so funny.

01:06:17.000 Clarence Thomas used a very similar example, unrelated in his dissent.

01:06:22.000 So from Chicago, if anyone was in South Bend, Indiana, where Pete Buttigedge was a failed mayor, by the way, if you want to see Pothole City, go to South Bend, Indiana.

01:06:30.000 I've never seen so many potholes in my life.

01:06:32.000 This guy's running the Department of Transportation.

01:06:34.000 It's like you can't make this up.

01:06:35.000 It's unbelievable.

01:06:36.000 And so if you drove from South Bend, Indiana to downtown Chicago, you have to travel on what's called the Chicago Skyway.

01:06:43.000 Anyone drive on it before? 0.99

01:06:45.000 It's a piece of garbage, yes. 0.98

01:06:46.000 But it's a privately owned highway, okay? 1.00

01:06:49.000 And it's a public-private partnership.

01:06:51.000 That's an interstate highway.

01:06:53.000 And it's illegal if they put up a sign that said Christians and Trump supporters are not allowed to drive on the Chicago Skyway.

01:07:00.000 It's against the law.

01:07:02.000 These are information highways.

01:07:04.000 So the same way that you have a right to travel.

01:07:07.000 So here's the argument that people used to make about the interstate highway.

01:07:11.000 I should be able to have whoever I want.

01:07:13.000 I do not, this is what they used to say about black people in the South, by the way. 1.00

01:07:17.000 I don't want black people to be able to ride on my highway. 0.96

01:07:19.000 And you know what the Supreme Court said? 1.00

01:07:21.000 They said, sure, they have a choice.

01:07:23.000 They could swim in a river.

01:07:25.000 They could ride a bike, but they don't have a comparable choice.

01:07:28.000 So the Supreme Court authored an opinion that if there is not a comparable choice, like another Google or another Twitter or another Facebook, then you're violating the First Amendment rights and the free speech rights or the constitutional rights of your citizenry.

01:07:41.000 The Supreme Court's already ruled on this before.

01:07:43.000 And so, yeah, as far as what we do, we have to start competitors.

01:07:47.000 We have to sue them.

01:07:48.000 We have to keep pressure on them.

01:07:50.000 We have to hopefully change public opinion against them.

01:07:53.000 But these companies have way too much power.

01:07:55.000 Those of you that follow our podcast, you know, I've been obsessed about this issue for quite some time.

01:08:00.000 And it's just a matter of time before we're all kicked off social media and we're governed by a couple tech companies that, quite honestly, hit our country in some sort of corporate fascist environment.

01:08:10.000 And so the solution, I'm already starting to see it change.

01:08:13.000 Here's what we have to say.

01:08:15.000 By 2024, we are no longer using Google.

01:08:19.000 We're no longer using Facebook.

01:08:21.000 And we're no longer using Twitter.

01:08:23.000 That has to be the big picture mission statement for every conservative across the country.

01:08:28.000 How we get there, I don't care.

01:08:30.000 Thank you.

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01:09:40.000 Awesome.

01:09:41.000 Thank you so much, Charlie, for being here and taking questions.

01:09:43.000 So I'm an undergraduate student from Arizona and I'm studying business.

01:09:47.000 GCU.

01:09:48.000 GCU, yeah.

01:09:48.000 Yeah.

01:09:49.000 So a very big entrepreneur, love free markets, love that whole ideology.

01:09:52.000 But it's very concerning when I see some of my peers who are very big advocates for universal pay.

01:09:58.000 And it's been concerning four or five years ago when Bernie Sanders was saying theoretical ideas about, oh, we should have universal pay in America.

01:10:05.000 And now you have Andrew Yang, who was first place running for the mayor of New York City, advocating for universal pay.

01:10:11.000 So if you were in my shoes, what would be your advice to try to reason with my peers for free markets?

01:10:18.000 Yeah, look, the argument against free money is a tough one.

01:10:20.000 And so you have to, look, just so everyone's clear, do you know how easy my job would be if I just came up and I just said everyone gets free money, you get free weed, free housing, you're debt forgiven.

01:10:32.000 And I just walked off stage, like a five-minute speech, right?

01:10:36.000 Instead, I have to make arguments about why earned success is important.

01:10:39.000 And so here's basically the argument.

01:10:41.000 And it's more of a moral argument than anything else.

01:10:43.000 By the way, we already have universal basic income in one form or fashion in our country.

01:10:47.000 We're already losing that argument because the last couple trillion-dollar stimulus bills were that way.

01:10:52.000 Here's the more important argument: which is, do you believe in earned success or do you believe in redistributed money?

01:11:00.000 Basically, that's the question.

01:11:02.000 And you're going to lose that argument most time because here's what the lockdown taught me.

01:11:07.000 People don't actually necessarily want to be free.

01:11:10.000 They want to be taken care of.

01:11:12.000 And so you have to teach them that wanting to be free is actually a better way to live, a more meaningful, a way to live a more meaningful life.

01:11:23.000 And that's a harder argument.

01:11:25.000 So I'm not saying that you're going to be able to win more people over.

01:11:28.000 This is one of the reasons, by the way, the church is so important in our country.

01:11:34.000 Here's why.

01:11:37.000 It was either Madison or Adams that said that is Madison, that if all men were angels, I'm going to screw this quote up.

01:11:44.000 You guys know the quote.

01:11:45.000 If all men were angels, government would not be necessary.

01:11:47.000 If angels ran our government, then I'm going to screw it up.

01:11:51.000 But you guys know the quote.

01:11:52.000 The point is that if you come from a belief, and the even better quote about this, I think, was from Adams, which is that you can only have a republic if you have a moral people in a republic.

01:12:02.000 And the church, if you do not have a vibrant church or some religious institution in the country communicating what is right, what is wrong, the moral, correct course of action in a country, especially when it comes to what's the moral case of take against taking free money from the government?

01:12:17.000 Well, absent some moral order or authority, you just take the money and it's whatever serves your purposes in that moment.

01:12:23.000 And we're going to lose that argument time and time again, absent a strong moral backbone in our country where, no, actually, if a man does not work, he does not eat.

01:12:32.000 It's a biblical principle and it's a truthful principle.

01:12:34.000 It's a harder teaching and it's tougher to communicate.

01:12:37.000 So thank you.

01:12:39.000 How you doing, Charlie?

01:12:40.000 Thank you for coming out today.

01:12:41.000 I think I'm going to be the first disagreement.

01:12:43.000 So thank you.

01:12:47.000 My question is, so during the presidential campaigns, Trump and Republicans criticized Biden by saying that he was going to be soft on China.

01:12:56.000 So so far, I just wanted to list out some things that he's done against China and then get your opinion on that.

01:13:01.000 So he condemned Uyghur genocide right off the bat, Secretary Blinken did.

01:13:07.000 And he's waging a tech war with China right now by reevaluating our supply lines of microchip production so we're not relying on China.

01:13:15.000 As of five hours ago, they've raised the idea of boycotting the Olympics in China. 0.81

01:13:22.000 And he's raised the idea of a conference of democracies to curb Chinese expansion, whether that be military or influential, like what they're doing in neocolonialism in Africa.

01:13:32.000 And this isn't something that's different for Biden.

01:13:35.000 He has a history of supporting genocide victims.

01:13:38.000 So if you take a look at what he's done with the Bosniaks in Bosnia when he supported them in the war or the Albanians in Kosovo, I mean, he has a really strong history of standing with oppressed people.

01:13:49.000 So do you think these criticisms now, now that you know all these things that he's doing, do you think they're sort of falling flat, at least with the China thing?

01:13:56.000 Is that the whole list?

01:13:58.000 No, there's more.

01:13:59.000 I just wanted to pick like as many as I could in 20 minutes.

01:14:02.000 Okay, yeah.

01:14:04.000 Has he called China our enemy?

01:14:06.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:14:06.000 Well, I mean, I think it's a good idea. 1.00

01:14:08.000 No, he hasn't.

01:14:08.000 He said he's his rival.

01:14:10.000 I think it's implied that if he wants to stop Chinese expansion, they're an adversary of the United States.

01:14:15.000 But he said they're a rival.

01:14:17.000 Has he called China our enemy?

01:14:19.000 I think that's just a semantic argument.

01:14:20.000 No, it's not.

01:14:21.000 He said, I refuse to call them an enemy because they're an economic rival.

01:14:23.000 Let me ask you another question.

01:14:25.000 Has he signed an executive order trying to close Confucius Institutes in America?

01:14:29.000 The Confucius Institutes is an ongoing debate right now, so we'll have to.

01:14:32.000 No, no, it's a very simple debate.

01:14:33.000 They're military institutions on college campuses, and Joe Biden supports them in America.

01:14:37.000 Let me ask you another question.

01:14:38.000 Does he support tariffs on imported Chinese goods, yes or no?

01:14:41.000 He supports a tech war.

01:14:42.000 Tariffs?

01:14:42.000 No, no, no, no tariffs.

01:14:43.000 Answer the question.

01:14:45.000 Probably not.

01:14:45.000 No.

01:14:46.000 Okay, right.

01:14:46.000 That's soft on China.

01:14:48.000 When Blinken went up to Alaska to meet with China, did he even respond when China made a fool of our country and said we're a bunch of racist bigots according to our own language? 0.95

01:14:56.000 Did he respond to that? 0.92

01:14:58.000 Yes, they did.

01:14:58.000 How?

01:14:59.000 Well, they replied to it. 0.85

01:15:00.000 By admitting it and basically saying to China, you know what, you're right. 0.80

01:15:03.000 We have a lot of problems to correct.

01:15:05.000 But we always correct them. 0.98

01:15:06.000 For example, the civil rights.

01:15:07.000 I mean, look how far we came from the civil war.

01:15:10.000 Are you comparing what was happening right now to Jim Crow of the 1960s?

01:15:13.000 No, I'm saying we have a dark history, but we've come far from it.

01:15:18.000 I agree with that. 0.84

01:15:18.000 So let me just ask another couple of questions because has Joe Biden supported military movements in the South China Sea or stood with the people of Taiwan as the Chinese Communist Party has threatened Taiwan to obliterate them off the face of the earth? 0.84

01:15:32.000 No, they haven't.

01:15:33.000 No, they haven't. 0.67

01:15:34.000 So Taiwan has been singled out for destruction.

01:15:38.000 And Joe Biden has done nothing to stand with the people of Taiwan.

01:15:41.000 Let me ask you another question.

01:15:43.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:15:44.000 Has Joe Biden explained the now revealed emails that show that he's probably a 10% holder in a Chinese Communist Party company, thanks to Tony Bobulinsky?

01:15:53.000 Has Joe Biden explained that?

01:15:54.000 If they want to go to court for that, they can.

01:15:56.000 No, no, no.

01:15:56.000 I'm asking a very simple question.

01:15:57.000 Has Joe Biden explained that he's probably a minority partner in a Chinese communist party?

01:16:01.000 He doesn't have to explain it until he's formally accused of it in a court of law.

01:16:04.000 I think unsubstantiated claims shouldn't be entertained.

01:16:07.000 No, no, it's substantiated.

01:16:08.000 It's a laptop that was owned by his son.

01:16:10.000 Why don't they take it to court?

01:16:11.000 Well, they are.

01:16:12.000 And so let me ask you another question, though.

01:16:15.000 So your basic premise is Joe Biden's totally tough on China.

01:16:18.000 Everything, yeah, that's basically your concern.

01:16:20.000 No, I'm not saying that.

01:16:21.000 I'm saying the premise was that he's going to be extremely soft.

01:16:24.000 No, he's not soft. 0.98

01:16:25.000 He's owned by China.

01:16:26.000 He's not just soft on China.

01:16:27.000 He's a subsidiary of the Chinese Communist Party.

01:16:32.000 He's an employee of the Chinese Communist Party.

01:16:36.000 So everything Xi Jinping wants, we are doing.

01:16:39.000 He is pandering to racial division in our country.

01:16:42.000 He's emasculating our military.

01:16:44.000 He's caring more about wokeism than military excellence.

01:16:48.000 He does nothing in the South China Sea.

01:16:50.000 He's not putting any additional tariffs.

01:16:52.000 In fact, he's trying to repeal them that Donald Trump put on steel and solar panels for imports into America.

01:16:58.000 Joe Biden is doing the bidding of Xi Jinping at every single turn.

01:17:01.000 So let me ask you just another couple questions.

01:17:04.000 Has Joe Biden, in any way, shape, or form, condemned the Belt and Road Initiative, or has Joe Biden admitted that the virus came from China?

01:17:11.000 The Belt and Road Initiative would be covered under that curbing Chinese expansion, which I mentioned earlier.

01:17:16.000 I think you're trying to play a very semantic game right now with expansion.

01:17:22.000 What you call semantics, I call truth, because language is the way that we communicate values with one another.

01:17:28.000 So let me ask you this question.

01:17:29.000 Has Joe Biden admitted that the Chinese coronavirus came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology?

01:17:34.000 If evidence shows that, he will admit.

01:17:36.000 No, has Joe Biden even mentioned the fact that this virus came?

01:17:39.000 You're wearing a mask up to your eyeballs.

01:17:41.000 Is that because of China or not?

01:17:45.000 Well, I think it did come from China, but where it came from originally in China, whether it was a problem.

01:17:48.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:17:49.000 What has Joe Biden done to hold China accountable for the greatest epidemiological Pearl Harbor in American history? 0.81

01:17:54.000 We'll have to see. 0.51

01:17:55.000 It's only like presidency.

01:17:57.000 So let me get this straight. 0.89

01:17:58.000 China invokes an epidemiological Pearl Harbor, and we'll have to see. 0.71

01:18:02.000 I have to, I have a question for you, though, over that.

01:18:04.000 Trump, in return, in the Taiwan, two questions.

01:18:08.000 Taiwan.

01:18:09.000 We're talking about the virus.

01:18:10.000 I would like to know.

01:18:10.000 The virus is really important.

01:18:12.000 Yeah, right?

01:18:13.000 Obviously, you take it seriously.

01:18:14.000 And so is China to blame? 0.97

01:18:17.000 I think China is to blame.

01:18:19.000 Why can't Joe Biden say that?

01:18:20.000 Because it's a very diplomatic issue.

01:18:22.000 You have to wait until the evidence is there.

01:18:23.000 It's freaking.

01:18:24.000 It's a diplomatic issue.

01:18:25.000 Could you imagine after Pearl Harbor Franklin Dono Roosevelt?

01:18:29.000 You know, it's a diplomatic issue that Pearl Harbor was bombed. 0.94

01:18:33.000 I think it was clear that the Japanese intentionally attacked Pearl Harbor, but whether the Chinese intentionally, which I believe they did, by the way. 0.98

01:18:39.000 I believe they did. 0.97

01:18:40.000 But until there's evidence to support that, that can be globally spread, I think it's irresponsible of Biden to make a statement on it.

01:18:46.000 I think he's waiting for the facts to get out.

01:18:48.000 Okay.

01:18:49.000 Yeah.

01:18:51.000 That's stunning.

01:18:54.000 So you wanted to make a point about Taiwan?

01:18:56.000 Yeah.

01:18:56.000 So you said, has he condemned the Chinese aggression against Taiwan?

01:18:59.000 And yes, in the town hall, he mentioned that he condemns the Chinese trying to violate the one China or the two China policy with China and Taiwan.

01:19:07.000 He condemned it in the town hall.

01:19:08.000 And then I also wanted to ask you one follow-up question with Trump.

01:19:11.000 Trump, in an Axios report, reportedly, allegedly, gave the Chinese a green light for their actions in Hong Kong and the Uyghur genocide in exchange for better leverage in his trade deal, which ultimately flopped, I believe.

01:19:28.000 It's not true.

01:19:28.000 What do you think about that?

01:19:29.000 Well, I mean.

01:19:30.000 Well, Faurcy, I said, allegedly and reportedly, and Donald Trump was more tough on China than any other president in American history, and he was unafraid to call it the China virus.

01:19:43.000 Joe Biden has always been very close to China. 0.99

01:19:46.000 He said that, quote, China's rise is a good thing for America. 0.87

01:19:50.000 Can you explain?

01:19:51.000 I'm curious, take as much time as you need, if you have any problem with the president's son flying on Air Force 2 with Chinese bank officials and returning on Air Force 2 with $2 billion in an investment fund.

01:20:05.000 Does that bother you?

01:20:06.000 So when I just mentioned, allegedly and reportedly, you denied it as being fake.

01:20:10.000 It's not true.

01:20:11.000 That's not true.

01:20:12.000 I agree.

01:20:13.000 Joe Biden's president.

01:20:14.000 So let's focus on who's in charge of it.

01:20:15.000 Exactly.

01:20:16.000 Exactly.

01:20:16.000 So is Hunter Biden.

01:20:17.000 Like, can you explain that for me?

01:20:18.000 Because I'm really interested.

01:20:19.000 Yeah.

01:20:19.000 So all of those things are also allegations, right?

01:20:22.000 And it's kind of a critical thing.

01:20:23.000 I just said facts.

01:20:24.000 I didn't say that there was pay to play.

01:20:25.000 I said, we know, because of flight logs, Air Force 2, Chinese bank officials go on with Hunter Biden and Joe Biden.

01:20:31.000 They're not facts.

01:20:32.000 They fly to China, and two days later, he returns with $2 billion.

01:20:36.000 Does that bother you?

01:20:37.000 But that's not a fact.

01:20:39.000 What a thing would happen.

01:20:40.000 You're tied up to your own opinion, not your own facts.

01:20:42.000 So tell me where I was wrong with that.

01:20:44.000 Out of good faith, if that is allegedly true, I have a problem with that.

01:20:47.000 Yes.

01:20:48.000 Well, then you should do a lot more research, man, because that's just the tip of the iceberg of the Biden crime fan.

01:20:52.000 They should bring it before courts.

01:20:54.000 I'm sorry?

01:20:55.000 They should bring it before a court of law and test it in court.

01:20:58.000 I don't know why they're so afraid of courts.

01:21:00.000 I mean, they lost.

01:21:01.000 Well, they lost all of their election votes.

01:21:02.000 First of all, they're not afraid of courts.

01:21:04.000 Second of all, we have a weaponized and politicized Department of Justice in our country.

01:21:08.000 By the way, Hunter Biden is under active federal criminal investigation right now.

01:21:12.000 We'll see how that one works out.

01:21:13.000 So I have another question.

01:21:16.000 You call it semantics.

01:21:17.000 I call it very important that he doesn't call it a rival or an enemy.

01:21:22.000 You say the Confucius Institutes is something that is yet to be debated, even though Joe Biden has done nothing against it.

01:21:29.000 The bigger question I guess I have when it comes to the Chinese issue: do you think Joe Biden is better equipped to handle China than Donald Trump was?

01:21:38.000 Yeah.

01:21:44.000 I would love to ask another question.

01:21:46.000 Did you vote for Joe Biden?

01:21:48.000 Yeah, but I was a Republican for four years.

01:21:51.000 Okay.

01:21:51.000 I switched to Democrats.

01:21:52.000 No, no, don't do it.

01:21:52.000 Don't go.

01:21:53.000 Don't do it.

01:21:54.000 No, no.

01:21:54.000 Yeah, let's.

01:21:56.000 Yeah, I know.

01:21:57.000 Okay, that's fine.

01:21:59.000 Why did you vote for Joe Biden?

01:22:01.000 This is important.

01:22:03.000 It's important.

01:22:04.000 Specifically for his foreign policy, foreign policy, and because I believe that Donald Trump was doing a lot of damage to the country.

01:22:10.000 Okay.

01:22:11.000 So foreign policy.

01:22:13.000 I'm just curious because I don't get actually a chance to talk to Biden voters very often.

01:22:17.000 So it's kind of like meeting some, like, wow.

01:22:22.000 Did you think Donald Trump did a good thing with the Abraham Accords, the historic peace deal with Israel, UAE, Bahrain, and Sudan?

01:22:28.000 Was that a good thing?

01:22:30.000 For the governments of the Gulf states and for the government of Israel, it might have been a good thing, but I don't think it solves any issues with people in the region.

01:22:38.000 Okay.

01:22:38.000 Was it a good thing that Donald Trump was the first president of both of you and my lifetime to end endless wars and not declare a new war?

01:22:45.000 I think the idea of an endless war is something that's pushed by more isolationist groups.

01:22:55.000 I don't agree with ending endless wars.

01:22:57.000 I think the United States has a duty to the world to act as the quote-unquote global policeman and to stop things like active genocides going on. 0.78

01:23:05.000 So you're okay with Afghanistan just perpetually happening? 0.73

01:23:10.000 No discussion.

01:23:12.000 Guys, show some respect.

01:23:15.000 Guys, please.

01:23:17.000 Guys, come on.

01:23:18.000 Don't act like college campus leftists, please, okay?

01:23:21.000 Seriously.

01:23:22.000 Let him an opportunity to speak.

01:23:24.000 I'm letting him finish his thoughts.

01:23:25.000 I'm curious.

01:23:27.000 So you think that you voted for Joe Biden for foreign policy.

01:23:30.000 So not starting new wars was not... like a game changer.

01:23:35.000 I mean, I come from a country.

01:23:36.000 I came here as a refugee.

01:23:38.000 From the Balkan Peninsula, I'm guessing.

01:23:39.000 From what he's described.

01:23:41.000 Yes.

01:23:42.000 Because there was a war there.

01:23:43.000 And, you know, it was McCain, Lieberman, Biden, and Dole that were the advocates of sending U.S. troops to Bosnia.

01:23:50.000 And if it wasn't for the U.S. sending airstrikes to Bosnia, I wouldn't be in the United States.

01:23:53.000 I'd be in a mass grave.

01:23:55.000 So I don't think wars are inherently bad when they're fought against bad people.

01:23:59.000 Yeah, I probably agree with that.

01:24:01.000 I would also contest that.

01:24:04.000 What does victory look like in Afghanistan?

01:24:06.000 A stable democratic government.

01:24:08.000 Okay.

01:24:09.000 That's where you and I are going to have clarity, but not agreement tonight.

01:24:12.000 The role of the United States military is not to institute democratic governments across the world.

01:24:18.000 It's to protect the American people.

01:24:20.000 That's mission number one.

01:24:22.000 I want to get some other questions.

01:24:23.000 Let me just ask one other thing, though.

01:24:25.000 I'm interested.

01:24:26.000 Did I say anything in regards to the Chinese issue that you have never heard before with Joe Biden and Donald Trump?

01:24:31.000 No, I know about all of the issues.

01:24:33.000 I just haven't really looked into the Confucius Institute stuff yet.

01:24:36.000 But I'm waiting to see more stuff come up.

01:24:39.000 So I want to thank you for coming and asking these questions.

01:24:42.000 I'm going to say this, though.

01:24:43.000 When you look objectively at how Hunter Biden received cash payments from Chinese state bank oligarchs, the $2 billion, Joe Biden probably owning a 10% of a Chinese Communist Party company based on Tony Bobulinsky, former business partner's own remarks, Joe Biden saying it's a good thing with China gets stronger.

01:25:03.000 If you actually cared about holding China accountable, I think a fair reading of the facts, you'll realize that Joe Biden is a wholly owned subsidiary of our greatest enemy, the Chinese Communist Party.

01:25:16.000 But I do want to thank you for your boldness in being here tonight, and I appreciated the conversation. 0.68

01:25:20.000 Thank you.

01:25:23.000 Okay.

01:25:25.000 I think we've got time for one more.

01:25:28.000 One or two more.

01:25:29.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:25:30.000 My name's Jacob.

01:25:31.000 Do you mind if I add a small point to the diplomatic issue with the Chinese virus?

01:25:36.000 He said it's a diplomatic issue, calling it the Chinese virus, but why is left-leaning media, when they found a brand new strain of it from India of the coronavirus, why are they now calling it the Indian coronavirus?

01:25:49.000 Why is it okay to do that, but it's not okay to call it the Chinese virus where it originated from?

01:25:55.000 So that's my, and they're doing it for multiple different countries.

01:25:59.000 It's not just India.

01:26:00.000 They're doing it for everywhere that's got some type of mutation.

01:26:04.000 But my question is, as you know, we've just lost our energy independence.

01:26:08.000 We've been set back 60 years because Biden decided to close the pipeline.

01:26:13.000 And now we're back in the Middle East doing, God knows what, getting oil again when we shouldn't even be there in the first place.

01:26:21.000 So one of the world's largest oil reserves was just found offshore in Vietnam.

01:26:28.000 What do you think the chances of Biden getting his grubby little fingers in it and intervening and going to Vietnam and trying to do something with that?

01:26:37.000 What do you think the chances of that are?

01:26:38.000 And what do you think the outcome of that could be?

01:26:40.000 Well, probably low.

01:26:43.000 I don't know.

01:26:44.000 I mean, never put it past the neoconservatives who run our foreign policy to try to go declare war in another country.

01:26:51.000 And so, yeah, I think that would be a huge mistake.

01:26:54.000 But I think this, look, energy independence, what kept us out of wars and actually kept us safe.

01:26:58.000 Donald Trump made us energy independent for the first time in American history, where we were exporting more oil than we were importing, which is a national security issue.

01:27:06.000 And something we don't talk about enough.

01:27:10.000 I can't comment on the Vietnamese issue in particular, but what I can say more than anything else is that the more that we explore our own assets here, the less we have to go explore them abroad.

01:27:21.000 And we have been blessed in this country with oil and natural gas so abundant that we can export it to the rest of the world, make a ton of money, employ our own citizens.

01:27:30.000 We are now losing voluntarily our own energy independence for some environmental, radical, obscure, undefined agenda.

01:27:37.000 And that's a bad thing for the country, bad thing for American workers, bad thing for tax revenue, so on and so forth.

01:27:41.000 So thank you for your question.

01:27:43.000 Thanks.

01:27:44.000 I think we have time for one or two more?

01:27:45.000 Yeah.

01:27:48.000 Hello, Charlie.

01:27:49.000 So I have a question.

01:27:51.000 I love markets, and I know you said you love markets just as me, you know, like the rest of the audience, because capitalism has brought a lot of great things to the world.

01:27:59.000 And I don't think that's undeniable.

01:28:01.000 So seeing how the world, you know, after especially the Paris climate agreement, has moved more towards green energy, like as a whole, you know, you had around, I think, 190 countries sign the treaty.

01:28:13.000 The United States, right?

01:28:14.000 Obviously, we care about our energy and independence.

01:28:17.000 Obviously, we have huge coal and oil and natural gas infrastructure that obviously I don't think anyone with the right mind would dismantle right now. 0.52

01:28:26.000 But nonetheless, I think that the United States is kind of losing a chance to become competitive in the world by leading with green technology because China is taking advantage of this vacuum.

01:28:39.000 I mean, someone just talked about the Belt and Roden Initiative.

01:28:43.000 And that's basically what China's doing, is it's disseminating all this technology to all these places.

01:28:48.000 And I feel like America should be the one doing that.

01:28:51.000 I feel like we should be the one taking the lead in the world, disseminating all this technology, getting these patents, so then we can be competitive and we can be dominant, even more dominant.

01:29:02.000 So thank you.

01:29:04.000 I think you're coming at it from the right place.

01:29:08.000 I'd be curious to hear why you think we should be doing the green thing outside of the fact that China's doing it.

01:29:14.000 So why should we be doing the green thing?

01:29:16.000 Well, there's several key reasons, obviously.

01:29:19.000 Depending on what your opinion is on climate change, obviously, if you don't believe in climate change or if you see it kind of in a skeptic way, I'm not going to touch that conversation.

01:29:28.000 But I don't think it's undeniable that, like, for example, if you look at like India, right, or if you go to parts of China that have a lot of coal, you see that they're very polluted.

01:29:37.000 They're very dark, right?

01:29:38.000 And I think, one, pollution is a very, very, pollution is very dangerous.

01:29:44.000 And I know a lot of people around the world die from like air pollution.

01:29:47.000 I think that's one, if we don't even want to address the climate change thing, I think it's a very convincing point.

01:29:53.000 Okay, fair enough.

01:29:54.000 Yeah, and let me stay away from the climate change thing.

01:29:57.000 And so, but you would agree more natural gas is good because it's the most, it's the least pollutant of all fossil fuels by far.

01:30:04.000 Well, yeah, natural gas in the interim would be the preferable thing because obviously, you know, I think coal is pretty bad, unfortunately.

01:30:13.000 I know that a lot of people in the United States have been coal miners historically, especially like in West Virginia where people really relied on it.

01:30:19.000 But as we've seen, the market has been shifting.

01:30:22.000 I think I read something that like 90% of coal industry has kind of like was losing its market capitalization.

01:30:29.000 So I do believe that natural gas is a good in-between.

01:30:33.000 Yeah.

01:30:33.000 So I don't want to put you on the spot.

01:30:35.000 What part of our grid do you think is green currently?

01:30:38.000 Just take a guess.

01:30:40.000 If I had to take a guess at what part of our green grid is green, it's probably California.

01:30:45.000 No, no, no.

01:30:45.000 Like out of 100%, what percentage do you think is green?

01:30:48.000 Oh, I think the United States relies on 5% or 10% of...

01:30:53.000 It's right around there. 0.99

01:30:53.000 That's a good guess. 0.99

01:30:54.000 So we're about 11% coal, about 22% petroleum.

01:30:58.000 These are rough.

01:30:59.000 And then a little bit less of that of natural gas.

01:31:01.000 Here's the only concern I have with your question.

01:31:05.000 We have to ask the question, what's the purpose of our energy plan?

01:31:08.000 And it should always be to serve humanity and serve human beings, always.

01:31:11.000 And so when we have cheap, affordable, and reliable energy that is able to transport people, power our hospitals, then we should be able to pursue that.

01:31:20.000 The environmentalists want to go so far and shut down hydroelectric, something that you guys are very familiar with here because you've got a lot of energy, obviously, from hydroelectric right down the street.

01:31:29.000 So I guess we don't need to belabor it or prolong it.

01:31:33.000 I was just very curious kind of where you're going after it.

01:31:35.000 Here's my biggest problem with the green issue is that there's a lot of unanswered questions.

01:31:40.000 Number one, you're not able to power an entire 21st century economy on solar and wind.

01:31:48.000 It's not possible.

01:31:48.000 Number two, you got to answer where you're going to do with all the batteries because that's a major issue, especially with these electric power vehicles.

01:31:53.000 Number three, natural gas and nuclear are the best solutions to this.

01:31:57.000 And you probably agree, but the environmentalists want to destroy those altogether.

01:32:01.000 And there's a lot of different reasons for this.

01:32:03.000 And I know we're running really short on time, but I think we have to be really careful about this rush to green because actually it could make us less competitive.

01:32:13.000 And you have parts of the country that are so wholly dependent on cheap, affordable, and reliable energy.

01:32:18.000 And yeah, one last point.

01:32:20.000 So I agree with you. 0.83

01:32:22.000 Nuclear.

01:32:22.000 I think nuclear, a lot of people are scared of it.

01:32:24.000 You know, obviously you see Chernobyl, you see the three-mile accident, but nuclear is actually one of the best ways for us to reach independent, energy independence, like entirely.

01:32:33.000 Like it produces like not that many emissions and everything compared to petroleum.

01:32:36.000 But I will say this.

01:32:37.000 Well, you know, obviously a lot of these green technologies are going to be expensive in the very beginning, right?

01:32:42.000 Because they're still in development.

01:32:44.000 There's been, I know there's been some government subsidies overall, but I don't maybe it hasn't really been enough.

01:32:49.000 And but I think, I mean, if we're talking about cheap, affordable energy, like I've seen, I've seen, I've heard plenty of stories of people who don't have to use a grid anymore because they have solar panels in their house.

01:32:59.000 You know, it's a very attractive thing.

01:33:01.000 And I think it kind of, it kind of takes away power from the government.

01:33:05.000 If anything, it takes power away from a lot of institutions like the pneumatic energy.

01:33:10.000 I hear you.

01:33:11.000 So I got it.

01:33:12.000 I see where you're coming from.

01:33:14.000 We've been blessed with such unbelievable natural resources and energy that are easy to transport, quite honestly, easy to convert to human flourishing.

01:33:21.000 And I think not you, but a lot of people in the green movement, their intention is to try to actually set us backwards through a place where we would not be able to have access to combustible energy.

01:33:29.000 But that's a different discussion for a different time.

01:33:31.000 So I think that we're low on time, right?

01:33:34.000 So I want to just end with this.

01:33:35.000 Thank you guys.

01:33:36.000 Sorry, we ran out of time because we had a lot of fun.

01:33:39.000 I want to thank all of you guys for coming tonight.

01:33:41.000 Remember what I said, that this is not a spectator sport.

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01:34:18.000 Keep gathering.

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