The Charlie Kirk Show - A Slight Head Tilt Saved Trump’s Life — LIVE at the RNC

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00:01:17.000 We are here live in Milwaukee, Wisconsin at the RNC.

00:01:22.000 We have Eric Prince joining us momentarily, but I wanted to steal Jack Posobiec, our very good friend here.

00:01:27.000 Jack, of course, I want to talk about your book and everything, but the breaking news.

00:01:31.000 You are an intelligence expert.

00:01:33.000 You have significant military experience.

00:01:36.000 What is your reaction to the failure to protect our president?

00:01:40.000 This last weekend in Butler, Pennsylvania.

00:01:43.000 Jack, just so our audience understands, you see that wide shot?

00:01:45.000 From here to about that red entry is approximately about 100 yards.

00:01:51.000 Yeah, Charlie, so that shot that you're talking about right there, 100 yards, 140 yards, that's the type of shot that you would make in boot camp.

00:01:59.000 That is a basic, simple, short-range kind of shot.

00:02:04.000 That is your basic field of fire.

00:02:06.000 So any basically trained soldier Basically trained trooper for any of the branches would be able to make that shot and not with scopes by the way or eotech or anything fancy That's a basic iron rails type of shot.

00:02:18.000 And so those are the sorts of things that basic security 101 not just for a presidential level visit, but any detail II any security official whether it when I was in the military if I had a commanding officer Those are the very basic things you're supposed to be looking out for.

00:02:36.000 And in fact, the counter-sniper teams, Charlie, they're not even supposed to be looking for stuff that close, because stuff that close is supposed to be secured.

00:02:44.000 So any facility, any rooftop, any ladder well, any seam between buildings, that's all supposed to be secured on the ground.

00:02:51.000 Those counter-sniper teams, those are set up for 500 yards, 1,000 yards, 1,500 yards.

00:02:57.000 So help me understand, Jack, and I don't want to get into speculation of motives.

00:03:01.000 Yeah, we'll do that as the investigation proceeds, okay?

00:03:04.000 But help me understand that if, for example, there's an elevated roof right here, if somebody saw, God forbid, somebody with a threat and said, hey, police, hey, police, why did nobody do anything for nearly three minutes?

00:03:16.000 And that's not just one hearsay report.

00:03:18.000 That is multiple reports and video footage that corroborate law enforcement and Secret Service did nothing.

00:03:24.000 Why was there, at the very least, why was there not a, hey, pull President Trump off stage?

00:03:31.000 Look, Charlie, there's going to have to be a serious investigation to the highest levels of the Secret Service for this.

00:03:37.000 And I can see them already playing the blame game, saying, oh, that was supposed to be local police.

00:03:42.000 No.

00:03:42.000 Secret Service has the lead for it.

00:03:45.000 And Charlie, you've done how many visits with a president or a nominee?

00:03:48.000 Secret Service always has the lead.

00:03:51.000 Secret Service runs the task force.

00:03:53.000 That goes directly to Secret Service.

00:03:55.000 The idea that lines of, direct lines of fire from a direct building immediately adjacent to where a presidential nominee, and let's not play this game of that he's not officially the nominee yet because we've been hearing as well that they were saying... He's a former president.

00:04:09.000 Former president is getting Secret Service protection for the rest of their life.

00:04:13.000 I've been told in some of my reporting, we've been doing it at Human Events, we'll be breaking more today when we get on, that one of the reasons that he was not given a full presidential detail is that he is not yet the official nominee.

00:04:25.000 So there is some truth to that in a sense, and by the way, it's ridiculous, where when we were in Detroit, we hosted him in Phoenix in Detroit, and we were talking a little bit about, you know, Secret Service issues, They said, well, we're not the nominee yet, so we are at the, quote, behest of the Biden Secret Service.

00:04:40.000 Right.

00:04:40.000 Jack, I'm going to tap you out and bring in Eric Prince here.

00:04:43.000 I see somebody here.

00:04:43.000 He outranks you a little bit here.

00:04:45.000 Just a, just a little bit.

00:04:47.000 So, Eric, good to see you, man.

00:04:48.000 Give it up for Eric Prince, everybody.

00:04:49.000 The legendary Eric Prince.

00:04:51.000 Good to see you.

00:04:51.000 It's been a while, man.

00:04:52.000 It's been.

00:04:53.000 So, Eric, you are an expert in all things protection, military intelligence.

00:04:59.000 Give us your initial reaction to what happened on Saturday.

00:05:02.000 It's an abysmal failure.

00:05:03.000 I think it's important for people to remember that world wars have started because of failed executive protection.

00:05:09.000 Think of the Francis Ferdinand killed at the beginning and started World War I. Imagine what America would be if the assassin was successful on Saturday.

00:05:21.000 Yeah, I mean two inches at most.

00:05:26.000 That anyone with any brain, with any training at all, would go to that site and say, that's the spot that's called the Sniper's Hotel.

00:05:34.000 It's the logical place where a sniper is going to set up and hang out from.

00:05:39.000 That much, the elevated position, overlooking the spot, with dead space, able to sneak in and get himself positioned.

00:05:48.000 That it wasn't covered is beyond grotesque incompetence.

00:05:52.000 And if people are not fired from this, then we know that they're actually trying to be this bad.

00:05:57.000 Well, we can get into the consequences, but I don't think anyone will be fired.

00:06:01.000 There might be some resignations where they keep their pension and all that.

00:06:04.000 But no one was fired after Afghanistan.

00:06:06.000 No one was fired after the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:06:08.000 No one was fired after our handling of COVID.

00:06:10.000 So why should we believe all of a sudden that mass firings are going to occur here?

00:06:14.000 Eric, have we seen in the recent era, let me ask you this way, since Ronald Reagan was shot in the 1980s, has there even been a firearm discharge at a president, former or current, let alone one being actively shot?

00:06:28.000 No.

00:06:28.000 And the last one that had blood drawn was John F. Kennedy.

00:06:32.000 Think of that.

00:06:34.000 Reagan was... Sorry, you're right.

00:06:36.000 Maybe I'm... Nope, you're right.

00:06:36.000 My bad.

00:06:37.000 Nope, definitely Reagan.

00:06:38.000 You're right.

00:06:39.000 And that was a ricochet.

00:06:40.000 It wasn't even a direct impact.

00:06:41.000 It was the 6th round... He served out 7 more years of his term.

00:06:44.000 Correct.

00:06:45.000 But that was... And you witnessed how quickly that team got him off the X. It was the 6th round fired of a 6th round revolver by Hinckley that ricocheted off that hit Reagan in the lungs.

00:06:56.000 They drew blood on Donald Trump.

00:06:57.000 They killed someone standing right behind him.

00:06:59.000 It was a serious round.

00:07:00.000 Obviously able to pop someone's head.

00:07:04.000 Maximum sympathy to the family that lost their loved one, and totally unnecessary.

00:07:10.000 It's worth also asking, do they have a do not shoot rule?

00:07:13.000 Don't shoot first rule, because there is lots of evidence that they saw something they were looking at, they're not comfortable with, but no one engaged the shooter.

00:07:22.000 So I am the furthest thing an expert can be from this world is me, but I have Common sense and logic and reason, and I live in this world a lot.

00:07:31.000 Why was there not an immediate get Trump off stage order given when there was even chatter, commotion?

00:07:38.000 This is where I'm very confused.

00:07:39.000 Or at least suspend the rally, put him in a position of cover until the situation is addressed.

00:07:46.000 Again, it's grotesque incompetence.

00:07:49.000 I guess that's the answer.

00:07:50.000 We're going to find its incompetence after incompetence, I suppose.

00:07:53.000 Because they can say, well, we didn't have enough manning.

00:07:56.000 OK, there is a there is a team around the president.

00:07:59.000 And even after the shots were fired, how long did it take him to get him off the X?

00:08:03.000 The X is where the enemy has decided to attack you that day.

00:08:07.000 And you want to get your protectee as far away from that as quickly as possible.

00:08:11.000 And they took almost a minute.

00:08:13.000 And they didn't take it was it was leadership and decision making.

00:08:18.000 There's no excuse.

00:08:18.000 There's not a money issue.

00:08:20.000 It's not a manning issue.

00:08:21.000 It's a competency issue.

00:08:22.000 So secondly, according to reports, regular civilians were pointing out the shooter in real time and police officers, law enforcement and Secret Service didn't act.

00:08:34.000 Is that incompetence?

00:08:36.000 There's always going to be friction around that, right?

00:08:39.000 If someone's bringing you new information and there's not a way to get it, maybe they're on the wrong frequencies, all the rest.

00:08:44.000 But if you look at the decision made to not secure that perimeter, the obvious sniper hotel, right?

00:08:50.000 That's what the term of art is for someone that has had training to say, that's the logical place someone's going to set up.

00:08:58.000 That's not a money issue.

00:08:59.000 That's a competency issue.

00:09:01.000 Getting the president off the X?

00:09:03.000 Competency issue, not a money or a manning issue.

00:09:07.000 When you look at the level of fear and befuddlement in the agents, it's like they hadn't drilled that before.

00:09:13.000 It should be autonomic.

00:09:15.000 If X, then Y, then Y, then Z. It's machine-like, and they were anything but a machine that day.

00:09:21.000 The word autonomic is operative because it should be as if you are breathing, as if you're digesting food.

00:09:27.000 You don't think about it.

00:09:28.000 It's built into your being.

00:09:29.000 Your autonomic nervous system.

00:09:30.000 It's trained into being.

00:09:32.000 Should be.

00:09:33.000 Yes.

00:09:33.000 That is what I want to discuss now.

00:09:35.000 And Eric, I think you have enough time just to keep going a little bit, which, and I want to tease this out.

00:09:40.000 I'm thrilled that some of the agents put their life on the line and jumped on him immediately.

00:09:46.000 And however, again, I'm far from an expert.

00:09:50.000 I just want a quick answer.

00:09:51.000 Did you see the high level of expertise or professionalism from those people that you would say that's the type of people I would use to protect a president or former?

00:10:01.000 No, because some of them obviously were trying to execute a plan, and a lot of ours were standing around not knowing what to do.

00:10:07.000 And I don't care if they were temporary detailees, etc.

00:10:12.000 Then drill that morning.

00:10:13.000 Then drill the night before.

00:10:15.000 Drill, drill, drill, and practice, and dirt dive it, so that you know what to do, so that the whole thing could have ended so much worse.

00:10:25.000 And that's what's unacceptable.

00:10:27.000 We cannot have that again.

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00:11:44.000 So Eric, let me ask this more crisply.

00:11:48.000 One of the agents couldn't holster her weapon.

00:11:51.000 Is that something that is a typical response?

00:11:55.000 That's not an ideal response and that's something that you you want to get through those nerves and that adrenaline rush while you're in training so that it is autonomic when you know you have to reholster your weapon you know exactly where that is and how that feels every time and that is just an evidence of the wrong people in the wrong circumstance and they're overwhelmed.

00:12:18.000 That's called condition black.

00:12:19.000 So let me ask this differently.

00:12:21.000 What should that have looked like?

00:12:22.000 Let's say that they let's say that they Didn't respond to the threat and Donald Trump's ear gets clipped.

00:12:28.000 From that point forward, what should that have looked like?

00:12:31.000 They should have had him off that stage in less than five seconds.

00:12:36.000 They should have created a protective barrier around him and then immediately moved him, whether he wanted to or not, off that X into a hard car and get him to a position of defense.

00:12:47.000 Here's where I'm going to ask something that I think is important.

00:12:50.000 Some of those agents were not strong enough to be able to hold Donald Trump back.

00:12:53.000 I'm sorry, Eric.

00:12:54.000 It's just the truth.

00:12:56.000 Yes.

00:12:56.000 Donald Trump is a big man.

00:12:57.000 He's almost, you know, I'm about as tall as he is.

00:12:59.000 He's 6'4".

00:13:00.000 You know, he's very broad-shouldered and he was emphatically, there should be no circumstance where the president- And I applaud him for his Teddy Roosevelt-like response.

00:13:08.000 I want to get into that because I think it was awesome.

00:13:10.000 It was one of the greatest moments in American history of Donald Trump saying, fight, fight, fight after being shot.

00:13:15.000 I think he was saying another F word too, but we're not going to say that on air.

00:13:18.000 By the way, CNN attacked him for saying he's got to tone down the rhetoric after he gets shot.

00:13:24.000 But, Eric, there should be no circumstance ever where a protectee is able to overwhelm the agents.

00:13:31.000 Am I wrong in thinking that?

00:13:32.000 No.

00:13:33.000 Again, it was clearly that team had not trained that drill, and they should have done that.

00:13:38.000 That's not incompetence.

00:13:39.000 That's a body mass issue, isn't it?

00:13:42.000 It's a body mass issue, but it's also if the right people, the right holds, whatever.

00:13:47.000 And if the president may have the confidence that of his agent in charge to say, we're leaving right now.

00:13:53.000 I've had, I've never had that circumstance, whether that's a big lead agent or a small lead agent with the command authority.

00:13:59.000 If they tell a person they will leave.

00:14:01.000 Yeah.

00:14:02.000 And it was clear that, I mean, Trump was defiant.

00:14:04.000 So even it, let me, so even if president Trump has shot the protocol, which he was, Is that correct?

00:14:09.000 don't administer first aid right there, you evacuate and then administer first aid, is

00:14:13.000 that correct?

00:14:14.000 It's situation dependent if it's a cervical spine issue or whatever, but the fact is they

00:14:20.000 gave Trump a long time to almost collect himself and it should have been over before Trump

00:14:26.000 even had a chance to realize what was going on.

00:14:28.000 Let alone be carried off and...

00:14:30.000 Yeah.

00:14:31.000 Again...

00:14:32.000 God forbid there could have been either another shooter...

00:14:34.000 A secondary shooter, an explosive device, or whatever.

00:14:37.000 Yes.

00:14:37.000 So again, that was the first feed.

00:14:39.000 If it was a multi-pronged attack, it's, again, get the protectee off the X. And they really failed at that as well.

00:14:46.000 I sense that.

00:14:47.000 And you even heard it in the radio chatter.

00:14:49.000 What are we doing?

00:14:50.000 What are we doing?

00:14:51.000 Where are we going?

00:14:52.000 It should not even be a discussion.

00:14:54.000 You know, if X, then Y, to move them off the X.

00:14:59.000 When you founded Blackwater, I imagine you had some former Secret Service that you employed and you worked with, and you know a lot of these guys.

00:15:04.000 The ones I talked to, they are so speechless over this.

00:15:07.000 It's a humiliation for their entire...

00:15:11.000 Community, sure.

00:15:12.000 It's a black mark on the agency.

00:15:13.000 It's the greatest humiliation in modern protectee history. 0.54

00:15:17.000 Because their role had really nothing to do with Trump being saved.

00:15:22.000 It was pure luck of bad marksmanship.

00:15:25.000 They made it worse.

00:15:26.000 And Trump turning his head and avoiding, you know, just his ear getting clipped.

00:15:30.000 Dare I say, fine providence.

00:15:32.000 Exactly.

00:15:33.000 The flutter of an angel's wings.

00:15:35.000 So those of you that do not know, Eric Prince, how do I best summarize your bio here?

00:15:40.000 Blackwater?

00:15:41.000 I was a SEAL for a few years.

00:15:43.000 I started Blackwater and we were the largest private weapons training facility in the world.

00:15:48.000 We did about 800 people per day.

00:15:50.000 We shot around 1.2 million rounds a month.

00:15:53.000 We trained hundreds of thousands of military, hundreds of thousands of law enforcement from protective details from some of the most dangerous countries in the world.

00:16:04.000 And we employed some very capable people.

00:16:07.000 And we did 100,000 protective missions in Iraq and Afghanistan, protecting ambassadors, diplomats, visiting presidents, all without anyone being injured under our care.

00:16:19.000 In all the protection that you've done, have you ever had a protectee be shot?

00:16:24.000 No.

00:16:25.000 And that's private security in active theaters of war?

00:16:29.000 Correct.

00:16:30.000 Yeah, not Butler, Pennsylvania.

00:16:32.000 No, the only, right, correct.

00:16:34.000 And the fact that if we had not secured, so what's 140 yards?

00:16:40.000 Yeah, you tell me, I was estimating.

00:16:43.000 About where the A of the Trade Hotel is.

00:16:45.000 Okay, that's about what my estimate was.

00:16:47.000 So if we had not secured that, and we were going to have a public air event with our guy standing here, and we didn't know what the hell was in that building?

00:16:53.000 We're like a former Prime Minister or President.

00:16:55.000 Exactly.

00:16:56.000 High profile.

00:16:57.000 We would expect to be fired.

00:16:59.000 Because it's, it's professionally, it's an absolute and complete failure. 0.93

00:17:03.000 So it's, um, it's ludicrous.

00:17:06.000 It's unacceptable that the lead agent of that detail that day should, absolutely should be fired.

00:17:12.000 Especially the advance agent, whoever set that thing up.

00:17:15.000 And they're blaming local police.

00:17:16.000 Do you?

00:17:17.000 No, that's a cop out.

00:17:19.000 Look, is the Secret Service responsible or are they not?

00:17:22.000 Who is responsible?

00:17:23.000 The Secret Service is supposed to be responsible for protecting Donald J. Trump.

00:17:26.000 And they totally failed.

00:17:28.000 So I now want to get into, there's so much to unpack here.

00:17:32.000 So President Trump was defiant in his response.

00:17:36.000 Magnificently.

00:17:37.000 He really mirrored Teddy Roosevelt because Teddy Roosevelt was stopped at a campaign stop on a train.

00:17:43.000 He was shot by an anarchist in the chest with a small caliber bullet.

00:17:45.000 Right down the street by the way.

00:17:47.000 Really?

00:17:47.000 Okay.

00:17:48.000 It happened blocks from here.

00:17:51.000 He, the speech, the bullet went through his, went through his, uh, through his chest and he sat there bleeding, but he gave his speech for the next hour and a half.

00:17:58.000 And he said, it takes more than a bullet to stop a bull moose.

00:18:01.000 And, uh, God bless Donald Trump for having the same level of spirit resolve.

00:18:05.000 And, and I will remember that.

00:18:07.000 And I think every American should as well.

00:18:10.000 In your professional opinion, should Donald Trump continue to allow Secret Service to protect him?

00:18:16.000 Well, that's the option he has right now.

00:18:19.000 He could hire people like you.

00:18:20.000 And there's, and yes, and there's a lot of complexities that go with that because, you know, the left and big government hates competitors and they hate to be shown up.

00:18:30.000 I gotta interrupt.

00:18:31.000 In the ideal, could you guys do a better job?

00:18:34.000 There's a lot of very talented people that could protect Donald Trump or could supplement Secret Service to make sure that those gaps are filled and that the questions are being asked and to call nonsense when they miss the blatantly obvious place where the sniper's gonna hang out.

00:18:49.000 Um, so for example, President Trump could have five or six guys like you that five hours before he arrives, they double check the work at the Secret Service.

00:18:59.000 Sure.

00:18:59.000 Yes.

00:19:00.000 Hey, who's on that roof there?

00:19:01.000 Oh, even to properly coordinate.

00:19:02.000 Look, most of the, the, the best part of, uh, the, the most important part of executive protection is the advanced work so that you have a proper plan and you remove the, the, the, um, the gaps.

00:19:14.000 The problem with law enforcement doing that is there tend to look backwards.

00:19:19.000 And you want predators. 0.67

00:19:20.000 You want to hire the most lethal predators to protect you because they're going to find, they're going to look at it from the outside in to say, how am I going to get that guy?

00:19:28.000 And they figure out how to close those doors.

00:19:29.000 People that are a little paranoid too.

00:19:31.000 I mean, every possible threat imaginable.

00:19:33.000 Yeah.

00:19:33.000 It's just people that think offensively.

00:19:35.000 Also the part of this situation that I'm sure we'll soon learn, he somehow got to the roof.

00:19:41.000 A officer encountered him and then went back down because the rifle was- And I saw reports that the officer backed away when the gun was pointed at him.

00:19:48.000 Again, that's malfeasance.

00:19:49.000 Terribly. 0.98

00:19:50.000 If you're a law enforcement officer and you get to- you're issued the badge and a gun, you're there to be a sheepdog.

00:19:57.000 And you better protect the flock.

00:19:58.000 And there he had very clear direction to protect the flock.

00:20:01.000 Not just the president, but the entire crowd.

00:20:04.000 And if that guy really backed away in cowardice, he should lose his badge and his pension and all the rest.

00:20:09.000 I think it's time to bring back public shaming for people that completely screw up and fail to do their jobs.

00:20:14.000 And Eric, this is one of the reasons why they hate you, is because you talk about better and more efficient ways of doing this.

00:20:20.000 Let me ask this in a politically correct way, which is not my reputation.

00:20:27.000 Has DEI infused into personal protection and the military potentially put President Trump's life at risk?

00:20:34.000 As I said in a Twitter post that has certainly gotten some attention, anything that detracts away from merit and mission execution is an unnecessary distraction.

00:20:45.000 Clearly, the Secret Service is not the level they should be performing right now.

00:20:49.000 That was blindingly obvious on Saturday.

00:20:53.000 Let's fix these issues before it becomes blindingly obvious and people die unnecessarily again.

00:21:02.000 Being a protective agent is not for everyone.

00:21:04.000 And there needs to be standards.

00:21:06.000 They need to be adhered to.

00:21:08.000 And I don't care what color people are or who they sleep with or which bathroom they use. 0.92

00:21:13.000 I want someone that will protect the President of the United States and lay their life down when necessary.

00:21:18.000 Eric, how can people support you or follow what you're doing?

00:21:21.000 I am on X at Real Eric D. Prince.

00:21:25.000 And they could buy an unplugged phone.

00:21:27.000 Because we're here to compete with Big Tech.

00:21:29.000 Plug that. 0.97

00:21:30.000 You were on the program before.

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00:21:54.000 Eric Prince, God bless, man.

00:21:56.000 Thank you.

00:21:59.000 Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:23:06.000 walk us through what happened with your nephew, is that correct? Yeah. This

00:23:09.000 last weekend. Yeah, so you know, they went to the rally and I got them tickets to

00:23:13.000 family to get tickets and they were in the friends and family section and

00:23:16.000 they were enjoying the rally just like everybody else and they heard the shots.

00:23:19.000 At first, they didn't realize that they were shots and then they realized, you know, what's going on.

00:23:23.000 Everybody kind of hit the deck and took cover.

00:23:26.000 And as they were getting up, one of the gentlemen in the row behind him saw that he had blood on his neck.

00:23:32.000 And he was like, oh my gosh, it looks like you got hit with a bullet or a frag or something.

00:23:36.000 So he just had a superficial wound on his neck.

00:23:38.000 They took him to the medical clinic, the medical tent that was there, the triage tent they had set up.

00:23:43.000 He's totally fine.

00:23:44.000 He's not seriously injured.

00:23:46.000 I think the more traumatic thing was that he ended up in the tent, unfortunately, with the gentleman who ended up passing away, and I think that was probably more of a trauma than anything.

00:23:54.000 But a bad day for a lot of folks, and a lot of folks saw some stuff that was pretty horrific, and, you know, hopefully they're going to be okay.

00:24:02.000 So, Doctor, you've dealt, I'm sure, with a lot of people that have experienced either being shot at or in those circumstances.

00:24:11.000 What is your reaction to President Trump defiantly In that split-second moment?

00:24:15.000 Well, I tell you, Charlie, I told everybody this right off the bat.

00:24:18.000 I have never, ever been prouder of my president than that day.

00:24:22.000 When he went down and he stood up with blood all over his face, and he instinctively raised his fist in defiance and yelled, fight, that is the warrior spirit spontaneously coming out.

00:24:33.000 You don't practice that, and that's not at all staged.

00:24:36.000 That just is who he is, and I think that It's incredible.

00:24:39.000 It's really, really unfortunate that that happened and certainly unfortunate that someone died in the process and people were critically injured.

00:24:46.000 But I think that his response and the leadership he showed in light of that horrible situation has sent an overwhelming message to all of America that this man is a leader, this man is a warrior, and this is who we need to be, our 47th president.

00:24:59.000 Amen.

00:25:01.000 So doctor, there have been a fair amount of chatter up until Donald Trump got shot about the mental condition of Joe Biden.

00:25:11.000 As a physician, how should we think about this?

00:25:14.000 Well, you know, we still can't, we can't lose sight of that.

00:25:16.000 I mean, I think there's this push right now to become a little bit more civil in, in, in what we're saying, you know, in, on the campaign trail, but it doesn't negate the fact that we have a commander in chief that's cognitively impaired, right?

00:25:28.000 And that's something that, regardless of what the other circumstances in this country are right now, that's something that has to be taken very seriously.

00:25:35.000 He's our commander-in-chief.

00:25:35.000 He's the head of state.

00:25:36.000 He carries the nuclear codes.

00:25:40.000 I mean, this man is not competent to work as a Walmart greeter right now.

00:25:44.000 And we just need to remember that.

00:25:45.000 And it begs the question that a lot of people have been asking for years now.

00:25:49.000 Who is running this country, right?

00:25:50.000 Because it's obviously not Joe Biden.

00:25:52.000 So I think that we still have to address that issue.

00:25:54.000 That's something that's still a big deal.

00:25:55.000 I think that the Democrats have stopped talking about it now because of what happened, you know, with the assassination attempt.

00:26:02.000 But he will continue to do the stuff that he did at the debate.

00:26:05.000 It's going to happen again.

00:26:06.000 He's going to continue to say the same kinds of crazy things and get lost and confused.

00:26:11.000 Do you believe, just looking out from a distance, Dementia, Alzheimer's.

00:26:18.000 I mean, what characteristics does Joe Biden embody of prior patients that you've diagnosed?

00:26:24.000 I know that's a difficult question.

00:26:25.000 Yeah, it's something I've avoided, like assigning a diagnosis to him, you know, because, you know, I am a physician and we try not to do that.

00:26:31.000 But, you know, you don't need to be a doctor, Charlie.

00:26:34.000 You certainly don't need to be a physician to the president.

00:26:36.000 You know, I was a physician for three presidents, so I know exactly what it takes mentally and physically to do that job.

00:26:40.000 But everyone in America sees it.

00:26:42.000 Everyone's had a family member, whether it's an uncle or an aunt or a parent, That's gone through the same things that Joe Biden is going through.

00:26:48.000 I don't know what it is, if it's Parkinson's or if it's Alzheimer's or.

00:26:51.000 multi-infarct or vascular dementia of some sort, but he's got something going on that has a huge cognitive component.

00:26:57.000 He's cognitively in deep decline and he's got all the physical signs that go along with things like Parkinson's as well.

00:27:03.000 So whatever it is, the one thing that all of those illnesses have in common, they all get worse with time.

00:27:09.000 None of them get better and at some point you can't do anything to even slow them down or cover them up and so that's where we're at right now.

00:27:15.000 So help me understand, you said something interesting, what the job requires.

00:27:21.000 What president was it?

00:27:22.000 Bush, Obama, and Trump?

00:27:23.000 Is that correct?

00:27:24.000 And so, what does that job do to you over a period of time, health-wise?

00:27:29.000 Well, it takes a toll on your health, but to do the job, you have to have incredible physical stamina.

00:27:33.000 You know what I mean?

00:27:34.000 You have to be able to work 14, 16, 18-hour days.

00:27:37.000 You have to be able to get on a plane and leave D.C.

00:27:40.000 at 9 o'clock in the morning and fly 16 hours across countless time zones, land, and it's 9 o'clock in the morning where you landed and you have a 14-hour day ahead of you.

00:27:50.000 That happens all the time.

00:27:51.000 And the president has to be able to do that.

00:27:53.000 They have to be able to multitask.

00:27:54.000 You know, they have to have, be able to deal with domestic issues and foreign

00:27:57.000 policy issues and war and, and all kinds of stuff simultaneously.

00:28:01.000 And it's, it's just absolutely obvious that Joe Biden doesn't come anywhere

00:28:06.000 close to having that capability.

00:28:07.000 And so, uh, president Trump lived up to high health standards.

00:28:13.000 President Trump is, I mean, I've never worked for anybody who has as much energy as that man.

00:28:17.000 I mean, we all know he sleeps like, you know, five hours or less a night and he's just, he is on all the time.

00:28:22.000 I mean, fully on.

00:28:25.000 It's remarkable.

00:28:26.000 So I want to ask you from a congressional oversight standpoint, the Secret Service, Speaker Johnson has announced that the head of the Secret Service will come and there will be hearings.

00:28:37.000 What will your role be and what do you anticipate?

00:28:42.000 We're in the same situation with the Secret Service that we were with the FBI, and it's basically the leadership issue.

00:28:50.000 The Biden-appointed leadership is our problem right now, okay?

00:28:54.000 And just like I've said about the FBI, I'll say about the Secret Service, and I know the Secret Service better than most because I spent 14 years in the White House working side-by-side with them every day.

00:29:04.000 Some of the hardest working, best professionals I've ever been around in my entire life.

00:29:08.000 So the people, the bread and butter folks that are doing the work, they are just incredible law enforcement people with unbelievable capabilities, including the President's current detail.

00:29:17.000 I know them well, and they are very, very competent, very good detail.

00:29:21.000 The problem, Charlie, is they haven't been resourced properly.

00:29:23.000 I talked to folks in his detail eight months or more ago and I asked them how things were going and they told me at that time, this is long before the assassination attempt, that the biggest problem they had right now is they were under-resourced and they couldn't get the bodies and the resources they need to do their job.

00:29:38.000 They pointed out to me that they were the smallest of the former details.

00:29:41.000 So Bush and Obama had bigger details, better resource details than President Trump.

00:29:46.000 That makes absolutely no sense.

00:29:48.000 The size of your details should be based on the threat.

00:29:50.000 He travels, does way more events than the other formers do, and the threats against him are astronomically higher than they are against the other formers.

00:29:58.000 For that reason and that reason alone, he should have a huge detail that's close to the detail of the same size as the sitting president.

00:30:04.000 He's not just the former president.

00:30:06.000 He's trying to become the next president.

00:30:07.000 That's right, I mean... So it's two boxes there.

00:30:09.000 That's right.

00:30:10.000 Bill Clinton is not trying to become president, nor could he, right?

00:30:13.000 Right.

00:30:13.000 So it's a far lower risk profile, correct?

00:30:16.000 Absolutely.

00:30:16.000 The risk for Donald Trump is higher than anybody on the planet right now as far as assassination.

00:30:22.000 We've seen it just recently, unfortunately.

00:30:24.000 So House Republicans are going to be tasked with overseeing this?

00:30:28.000 Do you think there might be a rare moment of bipartisanship where even Democrats are saying we need to have firings and a real, almost a Warren Commission report?

00:30:38.000 We were two inches minimum away from having JFK.

00:30:43.000 I mean, what would you say?

00:30:44.000 I would say it was less than an inch.

00:30:46.000 It was three quarters of an inch or less.

00:30:48.000 And if he had not started the turn of his head at the exact millisecond that he started turning his head, it would have entered his head.

00:30:54.000 I mean, that's how close.

00:30:56.000 And he knows it, too.

00:30:57.000 You can watch him.

00:30:58.000 He turned his head to look at a chart.

00:31:01.000 He turned his head to look at a chart, and he leaned backward to do it.

00:31:04.000 And when he did, he moved just enough that the bullet grazed his ear instead of going into his head here or going into his head here.

00:31:11.000 I don't even want to speculate what our lives in this country would be like.

00:31:15.000 We would be in complete turmoil and chaos right now.

00:31:17.000 That's right.

00:31:18.000 We were less than three-quarters of an inch.

00:31:22.000 Um, there needs to be the greatest mass resignations, firings, and pensions taken away from people responsible.

00:31:29.000 But I'm not optimistic, doctor.

00:31:30.000 I'm not optimistic either.

00:31:31.000 You know, there's all this talk about, you know, getting together a bipartisan commission and doing something about fixing this problem right now.

00:31:37.000 But I don't think that'll last long from the Dems.

00:31:39.000 I think they'll go back to their partisan ways.

00:31:41.000 You see how they've defended Mayorkas? 1.00

00:31:42.000 I mean, good Lord, if they're not going to back down from Mayorkas, they're not going to back down from this. 0.99

00:31:48.000 I mean, it's just, I think you're right.

00:31:50.000 No one got fired from the Afghanistan withdrawal.

00:31:53.000 No one got fired from the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:31:55.000 No one got fired from the handling of COVID.

00:31:57.000 I don't think there will be massive firings from this at all.

00:32:00.000 But if there is a time for House Republicans to put up a fight, It would be now. And the reality is we have to because it's

00:32:06.000 not just here, it's happening all over the place, including in our military. But the reason

00:32:10.000 this is an issue is because the Secret Service Director was appointed, she was put in that job for 1.00

00:32:15.000 diversity purposes. She was a diversity hire. Her experience was protecting Pepsi cans and potato 0.94

00:32:21.000 chips. Right. And she was put in that position for diversity reasons. And since she's got there, 0.61

00:32:27.000 it's been nothing but woke DEI garbage, including if you talk to the Secret Service agents, they 0.83

00:32:33.000 say if they ask for resources, they need she's more concerned about the color of the tie 0.88

00:32:37.000 that they wear, not wanting them to wear red ties. Yeah, I can attest to

00:32:41.000 this. So we hosted President Trump at two events in the month of June, one in Phoenix, one in

00:32:46.000 Detroit.

00:32:47.000 And, for example, in Phoenix, we called the Secret Service days ahead of time.

00:32:51.000 And the audience knows this.

00:32:52.000 We said, hey, it's going to be 108 degrees.

00:32:55.000 If you guys don't give us more mags, a bunch of people are going to pass out and potentially die.

00:32:58.000 They said, too bad, so sad, not our problem.

00:33:00.000 Yep.

00:33:01.000 So they only gave us two mags.

00:33:02.000 One of them failed.

00:33:03.000 So we had to fit thousands of people through a single mag.

00:33:06.000 And thousands of people that were in their 80s, we had 10 people pass out.

00:33:10.000 It was 100% on the U.S. 0.89

00:33:12.000 Secret Service.

00:33:13.000 They couldn't care less about the American people.

00:33:15.000 I don't even think they care about the protectees.

00:33:17.000 I would tell you that the actual Secret Service agents and uniformed division folks do care, but the leadership didn't care, Mayorkas didn't care, and the Biden administration didn't care.

00:33:26.000 I mean, honestly, until this happened, every time they referred to somebody who went to a Trump rally, they referred to him as an extremist or domestic terrorist, right?

00:33:33.000 Or as a Nazi. 0.56

00:33:34.000 That's why we ended up where we're at with the assassination attempt.

00:33:36.000 They compared everybody like you and I that support the president, they called us Nazis and they called him Hitler.

00:33:42.000 What do you think's going to happen?

00:33:44.000 I mean, I was texting with the great Dennis Prager over the weekend, who's incredible.

00:33:48.000 And we were texting and he said, Charlie, he said, of course they tried to kill him.

00:33:53.000 They said he's Hitler. 0.99

00:33:54.000 It's moral to try to kill Hitler. 0.96

00:33:56.000 And so they've justified in their head So why would they protect that person?

00:34:00.000 That's the same thing they've done.

00:34:01.000 Why would they protect him?

00:34:02.000 They wouldn't, and they've done this across the board, not just with the, you know, with the inability to physically protect him, but with the lawfare stuff.

00:34:08.000 We've got people everywhere, prosecutors, and they're breaking the law, but they're doing it because they think it's justified for the bigger cause of getting rid of Donald Trump.

00:34:16.000 Doctor, in closing, my strong encouragement to you Is to keep pushing because there's more and more peripheral evidence, we don't know if it will get to the essence, that there might have been stand down orders, that there might have been not just incompetence, but gross negligence and turning a blind eye saying, if something happens, he's a Nazi. 0.62

00:34:37.000 Yeah.

00:34:38.000 And so I hope you guys are on that.

00:34:40.000 You can count on me, Charlie.

00:34:41.000 I'm all in.

00:34:42.000 Thank you.

00:34:42.000 God bless you, doctor.

00:34:43.000 God bless you.

00:34:43.000 Thank you.

00:34:43.000 Give it up for Dr. Ronny Jackson.

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00:35:41.000 Where were you on Saturday when you first heard the news?

00:35:48.000 I had just come off the campaign trail.

00:35:50.000 We're on a bus tour and I was talking to Arizonans, just drove up, you know, started to pack for coming to this event and a friend of mine called and said the president's been shot.

00:36:01.000 And I was on Twitter, I was just working around the house getting ready to come here, and I was just absolutely scared to death.

00:36:09.000 I didn't know anything about it other than the president had been shot.

00:36:12.000 I got online immediately trying to look for information, and at the time, you know, I didn't know for about, you know, two or three minutes, I didn't know if he was alive or what had happened.

00:36:21.000 I assumed the worst.

00:36:23.000 And then I was so relieved to see that video.

00:36:25.000 So relieved.

00:36:26.000 The media is mocking this.

00:36:28.000 I believe it was divine providence.

00:36:29.000 Truly.

00:36:30.000 It was, according to Dr. Ronny Jackson, who says about three-fourths of an inch that otherwise would have killed President Trump.

00:36:39.000 And I think we all, all of us, breathed a sigh of relief and then went, okay, he's okay.

00:36:46.000 But the next morning, I don't know about you.

00:36:49.000 That story, what happened, I sat with that and I went, we almost lost President Trump yesterday.

00:36:56.000 If not for the hand of God being on his shoulder, if not for him turning his head, if not for a whole bunch of things that are just too miraculous, we would have lost him.

00:37:07.000 And this is what is just so sickening, that there's so much hate out there in this world, that somebody was willing to try to kill him in front of all those people.

00:37:16.000 I can't believe that kind of evil exists, Charlie.

00:37:19.000 And our movement is stronger than ever, despite this.

00:37:21.000 And he is alive and well, I can tell you.

00:37:23.000 He was up late last night, meeting with friends, meeting with donors.

00:37:27.000 You know, he's got his vice presidential selection today.

00:37:29.000 We're going to find out who that is.

00:37:32.000 And Carrie, I want to now emphasize and focus your race. 0.94

00:37:35.000 Your race has tightened.

00:37:37.000 You are in a dead heat, tied against communist Ruben Gallego.

00:37:41.000 We need you to be the U.S. 0.79

00:37:43.000 Senator from Arizona, right?

00:37:44.000 We need Carrie Lake to be the U.S. 1.00

00:37:46.000 Senator from Arizona.

00:37:49.000 You are running up against a communist.

00:37:51.000 Tell us about him.

00:37:51.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm glad you put it that way.

00:37:53.000 I was calling him a Marxist, but let's be honest, the things he's pushing for are actually communism.

00:37:58.000 That's where the Democrat Party has gone, but he's the most radical, Charlie.

00:38:02.000 I mean, he's, how many people out there, I know nobody here thinks Joe Biden has any good ideas.

00:38:07.000 I can't think of anything great that they've accomplished.

00:38:10.000 They've actually driven our economy down into the toilet, the borders wide open.

00:38:15.000 And Ruben Gallego has voted 100% of the time with Joe and Kamala.

00:38:20.000 You can fact-check it.

00:38:22.000 The fake news actually fact-checked me.

00:38:24.000 He voted against the SAVE Act.

00:38:25.000 He voted against the SAVE Act.

00:38:26.000 He wants non-citizens to vote in this upcoming election. 0.60

00:38:29.000 We all know that's wrong.

00:38:30.000 He's voted for sanctuary cities, open borders.

00:38:33.000 He wants everyone who's poured across to get amnesty and asylum.

00:38:38.000 And also have voting rights.

00:38:39.000 And we're funding it also.

00:38:41.000 Even AOC hasn't voted with Biden 100% of the time.

00:38:44.000 But Ruben Gallego is, we call him, Biden's best friend in Congress.

00:38:48.000 And we need to actually retire him, get him out of DC, and actually get some common sense solutions.

00:38:55.000 And those are America First solutions.

00:38:56.000 The people of Arizona are really eager for a Republican Senator and for Donald Trump.

00:39:02.000 Tell us what you're hearing on the ground.

00:39:04.000 Absolutely.

00:39:05.000 The people are, you know, I want to say one thing, and you always give everybody the truth, but the fake news media, they only are able to stay in business if they tell us we're divided and we hate each other.

00:39:17.000 The fact of the matter is we don't.

00:39:19.000 We love our fellow citizen.

00:39:20.000 We are not divided.

00:39:21.000 I mean, there's a small section of people that are really pushing for a communist agenda,

00:39:26.000 but I think the majority of people are together, united, they want to solve these problems,

00:39:31.000 and they keep pushing these lies that were at each other's throats.

00:39:33.000 And I think that we have the greatest solutions to the problems.

00:39:37.000 And what you're going to see the next few days in here, I was just inside, I was on

00:39:41.000 Remarkable, right?

00:39:42.000 I'm speaking on Tuesday.

00:39:44.000 I think you're going to see our solutions for the problems laid out so the American people can say, wow, we're suffering right now and they have a plan to get us out of this trouble.

00:39:55.000 They have a plan to make our streets safer.

00:39:58.000 The Republicans have a plan to make our kids' education better.

00:40:01.000 The Republicans have a plan to make sure our border is secure.

00:40:05.000 Living in peaceful times, not starting wars, and the American people are going to have a really great choice.

00:40:11.000 Do we want to continue down this track where we're off the tracks, frankly?

00:40:15.000 We're going over the cliff, our economy's a wreck, our kids don't have a bright future, or do we want the solutions to all those problems and a bright future?

00:40:23.000 It's KariLake.com, right?

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00:40:25.000 Everyone, chip in if you can.

00:40:26.000 That is KariLake.com.

00:40:27.000 K-A-R-I-L-A-K-E. 0.99

00:40:30.000 Very good.

00:40:32.000 I'm looking forward to speaking tomorrow.

00:40:34.000 I'm looking forward to hearing who President Trump's Vice President pick is.

00:40:38.000 I think the thing that we need to remember, because they're always trying to say, who should it be?

00:40:42.000 Whoever it is, I support him 100%.

00:40:44.000 I support President Trump.

00:40:46.000 I will say, but I hope it's J.D.

00:40:47.000 Vance.

00:40:47.000 Let's see.

00:40:48.000 Carrie, God bless you. 1.00

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The Charlie Kirk Show - July 15, 2024

A Slight Head Tilt Saved Trump’s Life — LIVE at the RNC

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