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00:02:26.000We spoke to multiple senior administration officials with knowledge of the call who we have used as sources of accurate information before.
00:02:37.000And the reason we were able to report this first is.
00:02:42.000Over the weekend, my colleague Barack Ravid and I had done a story about how Trump had made an amendment, a change to the Iran peace plan that he's hoping to strike with the government there.
00:02:55.000And during the reporting of that over the weekend, one of our sources had told us that Netanyahu wanted Lebanon to be included in the peace plan, but Trump thought it was too complicated.
00:03:09.000Then the next day, on Saturday, or better said, on Sunday, the Israeli military just unleashed holy hell in Lebanon.
00:03:19.000And knowing what I know of the administration and the fact that there have been some concerns for quite some time that Netanyahu himself might not be fully committed to the peace process the way the United States was, I figured that this would greatly upset President Trump.
00:03:36.000So we began calling based on that hunch, knowing what we know.
00:03:40.000And indeed, people told us that this was the contents of the conversation.
00:03:45.000So it wasn't just one person we spoke to, it was two people who have.
00:03:51.000Who are impeccable sources, as well as another person who was briefed more on the call and didn't have as much knowledge of it.
00:04:03.000Now, Mark, we don't always get a glimpse behind the scenes of President Trump's negotiations with world leaders.
00:04:10.000We know he can be a very forward, aggressive individual.
00:04:14.000So, setting the context for our viewers and listeners, is this a significant shift in how President Trump and Bibi Netanyahu have interacted in the past?
00:04:25.000Does this seem like a significant development, or have they had some pretty fractious interactions like this before?
00:04:33.000We've reported them at the time that when Netanyahu unleashed some strikes in Syria last year, it really rankled President Trump.
00:04:40.000And there have been other times, for instance, when the Gaza peace deal was being hammered out, Trump also had some very frank conversations with him.
00:04:48.000They have a very long standing relationship.
00:04:51.000They have shared political advisors in the past.
00:04:54.000I would consider them to be sort of brothers, but brothers who sometimes fight not quite like Cain and Abel, but can sometimes come to some pretty serious.
00:05:08.000And so this is very consistent with that relationship.
00:05:11.000So you didn't quite ask this question, but if someone would think that there's some sort of rupture between the two that would be permanent, I don't think so.
00:05:26.000It does feel reasonable to me that if Israel's getting struck from terrorist cells that are supported by Iran out of southern Lebanon, that that should be a separate peace.
00:05:37.000Of the deal here, how is the administration looking at those two pieces now?
00:05:42.000Israel has said that they're going to continue defending themselves and there's been no change.
00:05:49.000And let's face it, this is a complicated dynamic chessboard where the pieces just happen to be firing at each other with advanced weaponry.
00:05:57.000And the complication in this entire matter is that Iran, certainly from the perspective of the United States, is a bad actor that is dedicated to the destruction of Israel.
00:06:08.000And Hezbollah is one of its long standing proxies.
00:06:12.000And there is a belief and an understanding by Trump himself, as well as a belief in the administration, that Iran is probably stoking Hezbollah, or some aspects or some factions in Iran are stoking Hezbollah to attack Israel, knowing it's going to promote or prompt this response from Netanyahu, which can then be used as an excuse to scuttle the entire peace talks.
00:06:37.000And that is part of the sort of complications of figuring out what's really happening in the Middle East.
00:06:44.000Because the reality is, the dysfunction is such where there are a number of people and a number of factions and groups that just sort of want to stay in perpetual war.
00:06:53.000And that's one of the things President Trump doesn't want to engage in.
00:06:57.000However, the reality is the United States did launch these attacks initially on Iran.
00:07:01.000So we're sort of in the thick of it now.
00:07:04.000I mean, as we often say on the show, you can choose when to start a war, but you can't necessarily choose when to end it.
00:09:18.000Understand, my colleague Barack Ravid has a very long and excellent track history in reporting both in the United States and in the Middle East on these matters.
00:09:30.000I felt a little more nervous about putting out what turned out to be the accurate report about Trump scrapping the weaponization fund than I did about this report about the Trump BB phone call.
00:09:41.000That is, the report that wound up being confirmed as true.
00:09:44.000I initially had more concerns about it, whether it was true or not, but that was true.
00:09:48.000And I'm very confident that my sources here are not lying to me.
00:09:57.000We will watch this situation closely and any new reporting we have on.
00:10:01.000But, you know, First blush, you know, when I saw it, Mark, I was like, oh, you know, President Trump swearing on a phone call to a world leader doesn't strike me as extraordinarily, you know, groundbreaking, but man, oh man, did it cause a stir.
00:11:56.000And those people are often, they tie it together with the Epstein thing where they'll say, President Trump protects pedophiles.
00:12:04.000And so when you see a story like this where it's so clearly exposed the lie at the root that Trump is not Bibby's puppet, Bibby and Trump often are of one mind when it comes to things.
00:12:19.000And when that happens, you will see them take collective action.
00:12:22.000But there is a very serious flaw in the theory that President Trump's just getting dog walked into things.
00:12:29.000Trump went, okay, so we go back to the New York Times report.
00:13:15.000So there is a misconception that Trump is getting dog walked into something when Trump sees intel that confirms what he wants already to do, which has already been his stated goal and purpose.
00:13:26.000Then sure, he's going to find common cause.
00:13:28.000But when it comes to the fact that Israel is not playing ball in Lebanon and he wants to see that conflict simmer down so it doesn't rock the boat with the Iranian peace negotiations, something he's very committed to, then they are at different ends of the policy.
00:14:29.000Whether you agree or not, that is how he sees himself.
00:14:31.000That is how he wants to define his legacy.
00:14:34.000Now, like we said, some people think the Iran war is a mistake.
00:14:39.000I think starting the Iran war was a mistake on balance.
00:14:42.000But it is something President Trump chose to do.
00:14:45.000And I don't think he chose to do it because he has some guy in Tel Aviv or in Jerusalem dog walking him the whole time and calling him and saying, do this.
00:14:53.000And he's like, yes, yes, master, which is the line that crazies are putting on the camera.
00:15:43.000It's his moniker, it's his campaign slogan.
00:15:48.000And all along, he's defined what is and is not MAGA.
00:15:51.000And he told me personally, MAGA will feel the way I want them to feel.
00:15:55.000I'll tell them how to feel about this, that, or the other thing, and they will.
00:15:59.000And he has been totally right on that.
00:16:03.000The problem for Trump now is that he has defined MAGA literally to those who agree with Mark Levin.
00:16:10.000If you don't agree with Mark Levin, you're not MAGA, which means you must be a neocon whose main issue is what's in the best interest of Israel.
00:16:20.000So, I play that clip for you to explain how deep this narrative goes within like the internet circles and the dark, wet.
00:16:29.000Like, if you support President Trump, they are trying to basically say, not just necessarily Megan, but Sean seems to say it pretty directly right there, that you are a neocon, that you are a pedo protector, that you are an Israel first or whatever sort of pejorative they're slinging at you.
00:16:45.000When the truth is, probably much more closely aligned with the fact that President Trump wants what's best.
00:16:51.000In the interest of America, and he has made the decision to attack Iran.
00:16:59.000Blake and I have been skeptical about this Iran war from the jump.
00:17:03.000I think Charlie was very skeptical about going into Iran.
00:17:07.000But Charlie also understood that we elected President Trump to make hard decisions, and he has proven not to get us into endless quagmires.
00:17:14.000Now, Iran is the greatest challenge yet, and he's trying to get out, and he wants peace, and he's going to tell everybody in his way to get the heck out.
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00:19:06.000For the Democrat Party, and they're protecting child abusers.
00:19:10.000They're doing all kinds of terrible things.
00:19:13.000And the way you break the back of the teachers' unions in this country is something called school choice.
00:19:17.000It's very simple, and parents love it, students thrive on it.
00:19:21.000And the Democrats and the progressives seem to hate it for some reason.
00:19:24.000But we have two amazing guests here in studio that are going to help us unpack this and what you can do in the audience to take advantage of something that was inside the one big, beautiful bill.
00:19:34.000And that is Norton Rainey, CEO of Ace Scholarships, and Natasha Harris, co founder of.
00:20:19.000Truly an exciting opportunity for our country.
00:20:22.000It's actually a groundbreaking opportunity.
00:20:24.000Passed into law last year in the big, beautiful bill, President Trump signed this in, where every single state in America has the ability now and every person in America to claim a $1,700 federal tax credit when they donate money to a program like ACE scholarships or a scholarship granting organization.
00:20:42.000And what that now means is that Americans have the ability to give money, receive a credit, so kids can go to a great private school, they can homeschool their kids.
00:20:51.000And even children that are in a public school have the ability to use this money for before and after school programs.
00:20:58.000So this is an all-encompassing program that is good for America.
00:21:02.000And the reason why it's so critical to your point about the union stronghold we have in America is that we have a crisis in America.
00:21:10.000We have kids right now that are being left behind.
00:21:14.000You've got the haves and the have-nots.
00:21:16.000You've got those with money, and those with money, they put their kid into a private school or live in a neighborhood where a good public school exists.
00:21:25.000But if you're poor, you're oftentimes trapped in a school in a zip code that's not performing well for you.
00:21:32.000So, what the Education Freedom Tax Credit will do, it will level the playing field now so that we can actually live the American dream for our children where they can be educated, they can graduate, they can go to college, the trades, the military.
00:21:45.000But most importantly, whatever they decide to do, they are educated and they have a foundation that now prepares them for life.
00:22:55.000Or maybe I can't afford it, but my parents want to chip in and help my kids.
00:23:00.000Well, the way you leverage the tax credit is that you give the $1,700.
00:23:04.000And then when you file your taxes the next year, that's where you receive a refund on your money when you file those taxes.
00:23:10.00030 states to date have opted in the program.
00:23:13.000And so that's the first thing that must happen.
00:23:15.000A governor has to say, yes, we want this program in our state.
00:23:19.000And to the credit of a couple Democratic governors, we have New York and also Colorado, where our home state, where ACE was founded, Governor Jared Polis was one of the first people to opt in this program because he saw the value in education, even in a state that tends to be blue.
00:23:35.000So when the governor opts in beginning in January 2027, what we will start doing today is collecting donations of $1,700, and then the next year when they file their taxes, they get that money back.
00:23:48.000What this will do is that we're going to go from a program that currently is serving 16,000 kids per year.
00:23:54.000To hundreds of thousands of kids, to unlocking possibilities for kids to go to the school of their choice, to fill seats in private schools.
00:24:02.000And what we really love is competition in America.
00:24:04.000We think competition makes everyone better.
00:24:07.000And through this program, now what's going to happen is that all boats will rise, including even public schools.
00:24:13.000By the way, I totally agree with that.
00:24:15.000Well, yeah, it's like a lot of these unions that we've grappled with, they hate the idea of competition because as long as they have everyone stuck going with what they have to offer, they have.
00:25:16.000Our kids had no idea COVID was even happening because the Christian school got creative and they decided locally hey, we're going to keep learning, we're going to keep meeting in person.
00:25:25.000And it benefited and blessed my children tremendously.
00:25:28.000You have this background, you understand the power of private school.
00:25:32.000Private education, Christian education.
00:25:49.000And so, when you look at our education system and you say, we live in the land of the free, but education, we don't have that choice most times, right?
00:25:59.000There's financial barriers to making that choice for our kids to be able to go to private schools or another public school.
00:26:07.000And so, this really, I'm excited about it because no different than COVID, right, where you have innovation that comes into play to really serve the child.
00:26:16.000That's what we should be doing in education come where they are and what their needs are and what their hopes and dreams and academic goals are and meet them where they're at, right?
00:26:26.000We can do that with this Freedom Tax Credit because we put the money back in the hands of the parents and the parents can make that decision of what school best suits their family and aligns with their value.
00:27:34.000Just you think of where, if you have a child, where are they going to spend most of their, like more hours than anywhere else in the first 18 years of their life?
00:27:54.000And for, as you say, I think Governor Ducey has to be considered a hero because he is freeing up what is by far the most important thing that your child is going to do.
00:28:05.000Oh, I was just going to say to your point about the K through 12 system, a child will be in school for 10,000 hours from kindergarten through 12th grade.
00:28:13.000And when you think about that, the book Good to Great, he talks about in that book, excellence actually is achieved by 10,000 hours of doing something really well.
00:28:20.000Well, the same is true if you're in a school system for 10,000 hours.
00:28:23.000And you're not being educated and you're in the wrong place that's not good for you, you're going to have an opposite effect and that child will not do well.
00:28:31.000Depression, anxiety, and suicide are greater than ever before.
00:28:35.000But the beauty is, we know that there is a choice.
00:28:37.000There is a hope right now where you can do something so that every child can be educated.
00:28:44.000What 30 plus states around the country have done already opting in this program is awesome because that's good for children and it's good for America.
00:28:52.000It now is going to enable people to be educated.
00:28:54.000And that's good economically for our country so that children are not reliant on the government for their support.
00:29:00.000Give us a story, Norton, to bring this home of how this actually is impacting lives.
00:29:06.000Well, number one, the results are undeniable.
00:29:07.000We have so many data points about how well our kids are doing.
00:29:10.000But like you said, it really comes down to the stories of our kids and our parents and how they're being benefited by school choice.
00:29:17.000And about three months ago, the president reached out to us and said that we're going to do a feature on school choice for Black History Month.
00:29:48.000And she said, I made a promise to make sure that my younger daughter, Miracle, would be educated and that she would be in an environment that was positive and affirming for who she is.
00:29:57.000And because of ACE scholarships, her daughter, Miracle, was able to go to a great private school in Dallas.
00:30:04.000She's graduating from high school this year.
00:30:07.000And when Greta stood on the stage with the president next to him and said, Mr. President, what you have done by signing this piece of legislation, the Education Freedom Tax Credit, is not just going to benefit me, it's going to benefit the hundreds of thousands of moms just like me who are looking for hope, who are looking for a school, but right now are subjected to a school that's not working for our children.
00:30:31.000So you are literally saving lives, not just academically.
00:30:34.000But also, you are changing lives for people now who have the ability to thrive.
00:30:41.000We see right now, once again, depression, anxiety, and suicide greater than ever.
00:30:45.000But conversely, like you mentioned with your kids and how they're thriving, children who are in the right environment smile, they're happy, and they're also optimistic about their life.
00:30:55.000And that's what we see at ACE with the more than 121,000 students who've been served and are close to 100% who graduate.
00:31:02.000These are real lives of kids who now have a chance to make it in this world.
00:31:19.000I mean, this is exponentially going to change the landscape of education in the United States.
00:31:24.000You know, taking individual credit programs like ESAs, I know that Arizona has that program, and we have each of these individual states with these programs, but at a national level now, we're going to see the opportunity for hundreds of thousands of scholarships.
00:31:41.000So let's say that 10% of taxpayers that have a $1,700 tax liability participate.
00:31:48.000That's almost $10 billion that's going to flow into private scholarships.
00:31:53.000If you realize how big this problem is and what that can mean to change the landscape of education in this country, and listen, at Turning Point, we're so focused on the next generation.
00:32:02.000You realize in a very innate way how young they're getting, the kids, in these indoctrination factories and just the dead end education.
00:32:11.000So to hear potentially $10 billion, maybe more, right?
00:32:14.000I mean, the more people that take advantage of this, the more money's going to flow into private education, classical education, hybrid education.
00:32:37.000There's people in the audience that probably don't even really understand what the tax credit is, how to take advantage of it.
00:32:42.000Like, the whole point of this, I want you in the audience to feel empowered with your kids' education, your grandkids' education, whatever that is.
00:32:50.000You have to know what you're talking about.
00:34:40.000And we're so proud we've developed a technology product, which is like an HSA program that will make it an end to end product, which is going to be seamless for you as a donor, a parent, and a school.
00:34:50.000Also, if you're a school, sign up as well.
00:34:52.000We can serve you and take care of the administrative support.
00:34:55.000And then the other thing, too, which is really important for people to understand, because this is really critical, is that when you invest in education, you're investing in America, you're investing in a better country.
00:35:05.000And without education, People don't have a chance for you to level the playing field.
00:35:10.000This has been really informative, guys.
00:35:12.000I hope that you in the audience realize that you are empowered now to bless your kids, your grandkids, in ways that you have not been able to do before.
00:37:54.000You've got Biden's useless former HHS Secretary, Javier Becerra, and you've got the billionaire climate fanatic, Tom Steyer, who spent now $200 million, more than that, $220 million trying to buy this election.
00:38:07.000Now, here's what we're looking at with the polls.
00:38:09.000In the last week, we've had a huge number of polls.
00:38:12.000Most of them have shown me in the top two, some of them leading, some of them second.
00:38:18.000One of them showed me actually third, one point behind Tom Steyer.
00:38:23.000And the truth is, when we look at these polls, they're all telling the same story.
00:38:29.000It's getting tighter at the top because the Democrats are consolidating.
00:38:33.000Some of their lower count, you see it right there, Katie Porter, she was on 12 or 13 points about two weeks ago.
00:38:38.000Now she's right down in single digits.
00:38:42.000The most important thing to bear in mind, though, is that when we look at our internal polls and some of the polls that have been out there run by campaigns, including a poll from a well respected Democrat pollster last Friday, that had me leading at 27.
00:38:59.000Here's the important point it had Chad Bianco, the other Republican, at nine.
00:39:04.000And so the first point to make is that in this, if this was a regular primary, as we have in most other states, then I'll have won the Republican primary by a landslide.
00:39:14.000In these polls, we're doubling Chad Bianco's vote in all the polls.
00:39:20.000And that's the really important point here that I want to emphasize to everyone who's listening and watching in California.
00:39:26.000We've got an amazing opportunity, actually, outside of California, wants to help turn our state around because it's so important for America.
00:39:33.000We've got a really important opportunity this year, it's a golden opportunity.
00:39:36.000Because you can see it in the energy around Spencer Pratt's campaign in LA.
00:39:41.000You can see it on the road when we're going up and down the state, the crowds that are coming to our events.
00:39:45.000There is real hunger for change in California this year.
00:39:51.000There's in every poll a majority, a clear majority, sometimes as high as 60%, say that the state is going in the wrong direction.
00:39:58.000In other words, in the general election in November, I truly believe we can win because the level of anger at what's gone on with the homelessness, the crime, the chaos, gas prices, housing costs, the taxes, the fraud, The level of anger is off the charts, and so we really can win this year, especially because the other Democrat candidates are so bad, they got nothing positive to offer, they're offering no change.
00:40:24.000Yeah, that won't happen unless you get me in the top two.
00:40:27.000So, actually, in some ways, I think the general election is going to be easier to navigate than this primary today.
00:40:35.000The most important point people have to bear in mind if you're a voter in California and you're thinking, Steve looks like he's got this in most of the polls, he's in the top two.
00:40:44.000Let's try and get Chad Bianco in the top two and vote for him.
00:43:44.000And look, there's so much wrong with the election system here.
00:43:46.000This insane sending out ballots to everybody when we know that the voter rolls are so wrong.
00:43:53.000But here's the, and these drop, the whole thing is ridiculous.
00:43:56.000But of course, we can only change it if we actually get elected.
00:44:00.000And that's why the most important message here is the president's words in 2024 make it too big to rig.
00:44:06.000That's the most important thing to bear in mind.
00:44:08.000Every single vote counts, every single one.
00:44:11.000The other thing I'd just say is actually, even here in California, we're seeing some progress thanks to the Trump administration.
00:44:18.000And in fact, my running mate, the Attorney General, which is that we've actually, because of lawsuits filed by the federal government, the cleanup of the voter rolls is really happening in California.
00:44:29.000Millions and millions of incorrect names have been removed from the voter rolls just in the last year.
00:45:37.000The worst thing you could do, whether you're a big Pratt supporter or you're a big Steve Hilton supporter, In California, it is to give in to nihilism, into doomerism.
00:47:08.000So, when you get black pilled on President Trump, if you're tempted to give in to nihilism or doomerism, do you not understand that what we're up against is a socialist behemoth that is growing in size and they're becoming more and more radicalized?
00:47:24.000I mean, if you want to comment on that.
00:47:25.000It's a tremendous crisis because, yeah, we.
00:47:30.000But we lucked out in America, frankly, that the Democrat Party has always been left wing, but we dodged having this very large socialist, overtly Marxist party the way it's very common in Europe.
00:47:42.000It's very common throughout the third world.
00:47:44.000Unfortunately, we have imported the third world to America and we've imported third world ideologies.
00:47:49.000And that means we have young people, the Hassan Piker followers of this world, the AOC followers of this world, the, as we're about to see, Bernie Sanders followers of this world, who, Actually, just embrace socialism, government ownership of the means of production, and abolishing private ownership of things, abolishing private property.
00:48:22.000In the coming weeks, I will introduce the American AI Sovereign Wealth Fund Act.
00:48:30.000This legislation would give the public a direct ownership stake in the largest AI companies in America through a one time 50% tax, not on profits, but on stock.
00:48:45.000It would guarantee that the trillions potentially created by AI are used to improve the lives of all of us, not simply to make the richest people on earth even richer.
00:50:03.000Britain used to be as rich as the United States.
00:50:06.000Britain used to be the world's most powerful empire.
00:50:08.000They did it on the backs of free enterprise.
00:50:10.000They were the Silicon Valley of their day with central England.
00:50:14.000And then they nationalized everything after World War II.
00:50:17.000They went in a very socialist direction.
00:50:19.000Britain's never been the same since they did that.
00:50:22.000And you can just say, America, there's a reason America generated all these big AI companies that, however you feel about them, have been tremendously successful and innovative.
00:50:32.000And they're not coming up out of Latin America.
00:50:40.000So, America legitimately has all these advantages that are baked into the cake that we fail to understand and appreciate now.
00:50:48.000And then these new wave of DSA, Democrat Socialists, or whatever, which is just code for basically socialists to communists, they're somewhere on the spectrum, they are misrepresenting our history.
00:51:00.000They don't appreciate the capital markets and the way they move with such ease and fluidity and how massive a boon that is to entrepreneurs.
00:51:07.000And guys like Mamdani, you know, Bernie Sanders was the forerunner of a lot of this stuff.
00:51:12.000I mean, he vacationed, he honeymooned in Russia.
00:51:15.000Okay, let's just put Bernie Sanders in a certain.
00:51:17.000And by the way, you think Russia is all this great?
00:51:35.000We have to continue to elect more socialists, and we have to ensure that we are unapologetic about our socialism.
00:51:44.000There are also other issues that we firmly believe in, whether it's BDS, or whether it's the end goal of seizing the means of production, where we do not have the same level of support.
00:51:56.000And what I want to say is that it is critical that the way that we organize, the way that we set up our work and our priorities, that we do not leave any one issue for the other, that we do not meet a moment and only look at what people are ready for, but that we are doing both of these things in tandem.
00:52:15.000It's not as sexy to talk about free markets and why it's important compared to the past, even on the American right, but it's still incredibly important.
00:52:40.000And we frankly should not abandon that.
00:52:42.000And another thing to highlight, especially with AI, you think a government that owns 50% of AI and then we might have a Democrat administration again eventually.
00:52:51.000Inevitably we will because we have elections.
00:53:04.000Let's make sure these weights are, you know, liberalism is embedded in this system.
00:53:08.000They will do that if they get their way.
00:53:12.000Something that's on everyone's mind right now is the housing market.
00:53:16.000Whether you're looking to buy your first home, purchase your dream home, wondering if your current mortgage is still the best fit for you, or you're considering using your equity to pay off other high interest debt with double digit rates, the wait and see approach may.
00:53:54.000Just a professional review of your current situation to see whether you may be able to lower your payment, improve cash flow, consolidate debt, or better leverage your home equity.
00:54:02.000Don't leave your biggest investment to chance.
00:55:49.000You get stripped bare of what you think you're supposed to say, and you just say what you actually mean and feel, what's real, how you kind of end up arriving at a deeper truth.
00:56:01.000I've seen this song everywhere now on X.
00:56:39.000It really speaks to just what a figure he was around the world.
00:56:44.000We saw memorials in Britain, we saw them in Serbia, we saw them in Japan and Korea.
00:56:50.000And even in groups you wouldn't expect, I remember a religious service in Charlie's honor was at a, I'm not sure what they call it, but like a Sikh temple.
01:01:22.000What has it been like writing this song and the reaction from people?
01:01:25.000And, you know, in a bigger question, what does Charlie sort of mean, do you think, as you've toured this song around and you've seen people's reaction?
01:01:37.000Yeah, Charlie, I mean, he was obviously so gifted and intelligent and charismatic and all these things.
01:01:45.000But I really think the biggest thing about him was his courage.
01:01:48.000And I think that that's what resonates with people.
01:01:51.000It's certainly what resonated with me.
01:01:52.000Because I think the thing about courage is you don't need to have all those gifted, you don't need to be gifted like Charlie to have courage.
01:02:00.000You can have the ordinary person can have courage.
01:02:03.000And so to see a Christian man who had courage, the courage of his convictions, and I think that's what resonated with me, that's what I think resonating with other people with the song.
01:02:16.000Yeah, he said he wanted to be remembered for courage for his faith, and he always talked about courage and said, the crazy good thing about courage is that you don't.
01:02:58.000Yeah, I think too, just self reflection after the song, after Charlie died, I had realized like in my own life, I hadn't shown a whole lot of courage.
01:03:07.000And I think when he died, something did change within me.
01:03:11.000And I said, you know, because I think if more of us were courageous and speaking the truth boldly, it wouldn't have had to have happened, you know?
01:03:33.000Yeah, that's an encouragement, I guess, to me and to Blake, to all of us, to everybody watching, listening.
01:03:39.000If more of us were courageous, you know, people like Charlie wouldn't have to live in fear that some crazy person, you know, could do something so heinous.
01:03:50.000If all of us were courageous, I don't think the entire world couldn't stop.
01:04:14.000We want to chart, we want to go off the charts and support Mike as he's just telling the truth, which is a rarity in the artistry world these days, it seems.
01:04:25.000How long have you been playing music and what's your background?
01:05:46.000Sort of around the time I wrote this song, is in a four or five month period, there is really when I started experimenting, putting my toe in the water, and writing songs that were about the issues of the day more specifically.
01:05:59.000And it's been sort of like this polarization some people are just like, that's great.
01:06:06.000And then some of the worst hate you can imagine, as you guys, I'm sure, understand.
01:06:11.000But yeah, I think, like, you know, that Charlie helped push me into that.
01:06:18.000Because what I realized is like nobody cares if you're just.
01:06:21.000I mean, as a Christian, like I sing about sin.
01:07:13.000And that's what you guys do every day.
01:07:14.000That's, I'm glad you said that because that actually is so similar to what Charlie would talk about.
01:07:20.000You can't separate the two because everything relates to the gospel, everything relates to questions of sin and moral righteousness.
01:07:29.000And also, I think getting back to courage, that's what made Charlie such an icon.
01:07:36.000He was an icon to young people, even though he was routinely going on campuses, going on TikTok, going on X, and saying, Here's all these things I know all of you love to do.
01:08:28.000Powerfully for the wrong ends, so much.
01:08:31.000And I just, when I get to heaven, God willing, I'm going to ask the Lord why music has been so bastardized and corrupted and used for such.
01:08:42.000I mean, I think it's because it is so powerful.
01:08:45.000And the enemy of goodness understands the power of music.
01:08:49.000So when somebody chooses to use that art form in a powerful way to sing truth, to speak truth, it's incredibly powerful.
01:08:59.000And I think that's ultimately why some of the memorial people remember it.
01:09:15.000I mean, being in the room, yeah, and there's some B roll of it.
01:09:19.000It was profound because, you know, we all go to, not we all, but those of us who go to church on Sundays and we worship, like sometimes your head's in it, sometimes you're not.
01:09:29.000And in this moment, it was like we were all so gutted and so traumatized by what had just happened.
01:09:34.000So to be in that room, Like the Lord had our full attention.
01:09:42.000And it really, truly was a powerful, powerful moment.
01:09:46.000To see so many prominent people in government and other places get up in the mic and proclaim the gospel was, I never thought I would see.
01:09:57.000And you could see that they were moved by the Holy Spirit as well.
01:09:59.000Like I've told this story before, but JD Vance, I'm backstage, I'm watching his speech because they had it, you know, it's on the teleprompters.
01:10:07.000And he ad libbed the best line out of his speech, which is, I've talked about Jesus Christ more in the last two weeks than I have in my entire political career, public life.
01:10:26.000And one of the reasons I love having you here is because there's been some debate about whether the revival's been blunted or if it's been hijacked.
01:10:33.000And I say no because I believe what God has unleashed, man cannot stop.
01:10:50.000So if you want to see God's revival continue, if you want to see Charlie's legacy continue to spread and become more and more important, back this song, back Mike Kavanaugh and the truth that he's singing in it.
01:11:16.000What do you want people to take away from this and what's your encouragement for them?
01:11:20.000Yeah, I mean, as much as I want to honor Charlie in the song, I want to honor our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, above all.
01:11:27.000And so I would just want to say if you don't know the Lord, repent of your sins and believe in Him and you can have eternal salvation because that really is the message.
01:11:38.000And that is what the truth of everything that Charlie spoke, the truth all pointed to.
01:11:43.000Going toward that, and that was what I know what he wanted the most, and that's what that's what I want the most as well.
01:11:48.000Yeah, it's not necessarily popular to say, but it's the most powerful thing you can say repent and be saved, turn to Jesus.