The Charlie Kirk Show - A Song for Charlie + Trump vs. Bibi

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00:01:18.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:20.000 It is June 2nd.

00:01:21.000 I can't believe it's already June, and it's June 2nd.

00:01:23.000 We're here at the YREFI studios in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:01:26.000 How are we doing, Blake?

00:01:27.000 Yet my microphone remains flagless.

00:01:29.000 What's the.

00:01:29.000 Flagless.

00:01:30.000 Well, I'm going to call the folks at YREFI, see what we can get done for you, Blake.

00:01:34.000 It's time to escalate this matter.

00:01:36.000 I want to get right into it.

00:01:37.000 The big story last night was that President Trump and Bibi Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel, had a very tense conversation.

00:01:45.000 That story was first reported by Axios, and one of the reporters on that byline is Mark Caputo.

00:01:53.000 He's joining us now.

00:01:56.000 Mark, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:57.000 It's good to have you.

00:01:58.000 Oh, great to be here.

00:02:00.000 Your story yesterday in Axios caused quite the stir. 0.99

00:02:04.000 The headline is You're effing crazy. 0.93

00:02:07.000 Trump fumes at Netanyahu in Call on Lebanon. 0.99

00:02:11.000 The subtitle is You'd Be in Prison if It Weren't for Me.

00:02:15.000 I'm Saving Your Behind.

00:02:18.000 Mark, this, like I said, caused quite the stir yesterday.

00:02:21.000 Tell us about your reporting and do you stand by it now?

00:02:25.000 Oh, certainly.

00:02:26.000 We spoke to multiple senior administration officials with knowledge of the call who we have used as sources of accurate information before.

00:02:37.000 And the reason we were able to report this first is.

00:02:42.000 Over the weekend, my colleague Barack Ravid and I had done a story about how Trump had made an amendment, a change to the Iran peace plan that he's hoping to strike with the government there.

00:02:55.000 And during the reporting of that over the weekend, one of our sources had told us that Netanyahu wanted Lebanon to be included in the peace plan, but Trump thought it was too complicated.

00:03:09.000 Then the next day, on Saturday, or better said, on Sunday, the Israeli military just unleashed holy hell in Lebanon.

00:03:19.000 And knowing what I know of the administration and the fact that there have been some concerns for quite some time that Netanyahu himself might not be fully committed to the peace process the way the United States was, I figured that this would greatly upset President Trump.

00:03:36.000 So we began calling based on that hunch, knowing what we know.

00:03:40.000 And indeed, people told us that this was the contents of the conversation.

00:03:45.000 So it wasn't just one person we spoke to, it was two people who have.

00:03:51.000 Who are impeccable sources, as well as another person who was briefed more on the call and didn't have as much knowledge of it.

00:03:58.000 So, all of their accounts lined up.

00:04:00.000 They came in separately.

00:04:01.000 And that's why we ran the story.

00:04:03.000 Now, Mark, we don't always get a glimpse behind the scenes of President Trump's negotiations with world leaders.

00:04:10.000 We know he can be a very forward, aggressive individual.

00:04:14.000 So, setting the context for our viewers and listeners, is this a significant shift in how President Trump and Bibi Netanyahu have interacted in the past?

00:04:25.000 Does this seem like a significant development, or have they had some pretty fractious interactions like this before?

00:04:32.000 They have in the past.

00:04:33.000 We've reported them at the time that when Netanyahu unleashed some strikes in Syria last year, it really rankled President Trump.

00:04:40.000 And there have been other times, for instance, when the Gaza peace deal was being hammered out, Trump also had some very frank conversations with him.

00:04:48.000 They have a very long standing relationship.

00:04:51.000 They have shared political advisors in the past.

00:04:54.000 I would consider them to be sort of brothers, but brothers who sometimes fight not quite like Cain and Abel, but can sometimes come to some pretty serious.

00:05:06.000 Trading of words, let's say.

00:05:08.000 And so this is very consistent with that relationship.

00:05:11.000 So you didn't quite ask this question, but if someone would think that there's some sort of rupture between the two that would be permanent, I don't think so.

00:05:18.000 All right.

00:05:18.000 So, Mark, the issue then is Lebanon.

00:05:21.000 So you mentioned that they unleashed holy hell on southern Lebanon. 1.00

00:05:24.000 I have two questions. 0.97

00:05:26.000 It does feel reasonable to me that if Israel's getting struck from terrorist cells that are supported by Iran out of southern Lebanon, that that should be a separate peace.

00:05:37.000 Of the deal here, how is the administration looking at those two pieces now? 0.57

00:05:42.000 Israel has said that they're going to continue defending themselves and there's been no change.

00:05:46.000 Is that how you understand it?

00:05:48.000 That's how we understand it.

00:05:49.000 And let's face it, this is a complicated dynamic chessboard where the pieces just happen to be firing at each other with advanced weaponry. 0.64

00:05:57.000 And the complication in this entire matter is that Iran, certainly from the perspective of the United States, is a bad actor that is dedicated to the destruction of Israel. 0.58

00:06:08.000 And Hezbollah is one of its long standing proxies.

00:06:12.000 And there is a belief and an understanding by Trump himself, as well as a belief in the administration, that Iran is probably stoking Hezbollah, or some aspects or some factions in Iran are stoking Hezbollah to attack Israel, knowing it's going to promote or prompt this response from Netanyahu, which can then be used as an excuse to scuttle the entire peace talks.

00:06:37.000 And that is part of the sort of complications of figuring out what's really happening in the Middle East.

00:06:43.000 And how peace can happen.

00:06:44.000 Because the reality is, the dysfunction is such where there are a number of people and a number of factions and groups that just sort of want to stay in perpetual war.

00:06:53.000 And that's one of the things President Trump doesn't want to engage in.

00:06:57.000 However, the reality is the United States did launch these attacks initially on Iran.

00:07:01.000 So we're sort of in the thick of it now.

00:07:04.000 I mean, as we often say on the show, you can choose when to start a war, but you can't necessarily choose when to end it.

00:07:04.000 Yeah.

00:07:10.000 But this dynamic, you know, we think of.

00:07:15.000 Command and control in the terms of the United States, right?

00:07:18.000 Where we have a president and a secretary of war, and it flows down from there.

00:07:21.000 What is your reporting saying or showing, Mark, on the command and control structure of the Iranian regime at this point?

00:07:28.000 Is it possible there's rogue elements that are fueling this and the moderates are trying to, you know, keep them at bay?

00:07:35.000 Explain that dynamic, Mark.

00:07:36.000 That's a good question as to who's really in charge.

00:07:41.000 One of the problems that the United States is experiencing is it's become a victim of its own success.

00:07:47.000 One of the reasons they launched. 0.64

00:07:48.000 The attack, the way it was, the reason President Trump greenlit it was to decapitate a lot of the leadership in Iran. 0.96

00:07:54.000 That succeeded. 0.80

00:07:56.000 However, Iran was expecting this and has been wargaming this for some time and has formed what's called the Mosaic Doctrine. 0.95

00:08:03.000 It has a diffuse power structure that was designed to withstand a decapitating blow.

00:08:08.000 So you have sort of these independent or quasi independent operators in different factions in the IRGC and in the Iranian military proper.

00:08:18.000 And so different groups are probably acting in different ways.

00:08:23.000 Some want to have a peace deal, others don't.

00:08:27.000 And those who don't necessarily want a peace deal have a much easier time making sure that there's war.

00:08:33.000 Yeah, this is super fascinating.

00:08:35.000 So I just want to reiterate you know, this I tweeted out your story yesterday, Mark.

00:08:40.000 I got immediate blowback from, I would say, people that want to see the regime overthrown in Iran.

00:08:49.000 I just want to double check.

00:08:50.000 You stand by your reporting.

00:08:51.000 You also broke the day before that President Trump, okay, 100%.

00:08:55.000 You also broke the day before that President Trump was.

00:08:57.000 That they were getting rid of the weaponization fund, and that has proven to be accurate.

00:09:04.000 So, you know, I've known you for a bit, Mark.

00:09:06.000 You've reported on us, on Charlie.

00:09:09.000 You've always been pretty fact based.

00:09:11.000 And so I took it pretty seriously when you put this out there.

00:09:16.000 So we'll see what happens, Mark Caputo.

00:09:18.000 Don't trust me.

00:09:18.000 Understand, my colleague Barack Ravid has a very long and excellent track history in reporting both in the United States and in the Middle East on these matters.

00:09:30.000 I felt a little more nervous about putting out what turned out to be the accurate report about Trump scrapping the weaponization fund than I did about this report about the Trump BB phone call.

00:09:41.000 That is, the report that wound up being confirmed as true.

00:09:44.000 I initially had more concerns about it, whether it was true or not, but that was true.

00:09:48.000 And I'm very confident that my sources here are not lying to me.

00:09:51.000 Yeah.

00:09:52.000 Well, Mark, thanks for making the time.

00:09:54.000 I know you're traveling.

00:09:55.000 Thanks for calling in.

00:09:57.000 We will watch this situation closely and any new reporting we have on.

00:10:01.000 But, you know, First blush, you know, when I saw it, Mark, I was like, oh, you know, President Trump swearing on a phone call to a world leader doesn't strike me as extraordinarily, you know, groundbreaking, but man, oh man, did it cause a stir.

00:10:14.000 So thank you, Mark.

00:10:16.000 We'll talk to you soon.

00:10:17.000 Thank you.

00:10:17.000 Yes, sir.

00:10:17.000 I hope to talk to you soon.

00:10:18.000 All right.

00:10:18.000 Bye.

00:10:21.000 So I want to get into this story a little bit.

00:10:23.000 So we just had Mark Caputo on, who was one of the reporters that broke that story, Blake.

00:10:28.000 And instantly, I mean, I put it out there because I thought it was noteworthy and I saw Mark's name on it.

00:10:32.000 I know Mark to be a pretty.

00:10:34.000 Legit reporter. 0.98

00:10:35.000 He's, by the way, just so you know a little bit of Mark's backstory, he was working at NBC and he wasn't giving in to the woke crap. 0.97

00:10:43.000 He's not a Jew hater and they fired him. 0.97

00:10:46.000 So he's a great, intrepid old school journalist who just gets scoops.

00:10:51.000 That's his thing.

00:10:52.000 There's no, there's no like.

00:10:52.000 He just gets scoops.

00:10:54.000 He's like Mark Halpern.

00:10:55.000 Yeah, he's not trying to get the admin.

00:10:57.000 He's not trying to get BB.

00:10:59.000 I found it very interesting.

00:11:00.000 And I will tell you, as somebody that we talk to a lot of students, we have a lot of students on this show.

00:11:04.000 We're going to be doing a special from our.

00:11:08.000 CLS event with all our students.

00:11:09.000 We're going to interview a bunch of them, have them on the show, and get their thoughts again.

00:11:13.000 It's so important that this audience is in tune with what young Americans are thinking.

00:11:18.000 And they're telling us at Turning Point when they're tabling on campus, they don't know how to defend two things.

00:11:24.000 Two things.

00:11:26.000 And they have people come up and they challenge their ideas.

00:11:28.000 They want to debate them. 0.61

00:11:29.000 Those two things are Epstein and pedophiles and Israel and Iran.

00:11:35.000 And those attacks are, it's one thing, it's inevitable people are going to complain.

00:11:40.000 About the war with Iran.

00:11:42.000 There are people who dislike it.

00:11:43.000 There are people who think we shouldn't be having it.

00:11:45.000 But there's another dimension of these attacks, which is very crass.

00:11:51.000 And they'll just say, oh, Trump is Benjamin Netanyahu's puppet. 0.88

00:11:54.000 He's Bibby's puppet. 0.95

00:11:56.000 And those people are often, they tie it together with the Epstein thing where they'll say, President Trump protects pedophiles. 0.53

00:12:04.000 And so when you see a story like this where it's so clearly exposed the lie at the root that Trump is not Bibby's puppet, Bibby and Trump often are of one mind when it comes to things.

00:12:19.000 And when that happens, you will see them take collective action.

00:12:22.000 But there is a very serious flaw in the theory that President Trump's just getting dog walked into things.

00:12:29.000 Trump went, okay, so we go back to the New York Times report.

00:12:32.000 Everybody's in the situation room.

00:12:34.000 Bibi Netanyahu, which, you know, like Benny Johnson said Bibi shouldn't have been in the situation room. 0.60

00:12:39.000 I'm actually sympathetic to that.

00:12:41.000 It does seem odd that a foreign leader would be in there, but nevertheless, he was a guest of the president's.

00:12:46.000 So they're in there and they give an assessment, an intel assessment, of what's going to happen if you strike Iran. 0.95

00:12:53.000 And guys like JD Vance are publicly on the record saying, I think this is a dumb idea.

00:12:59.000 Marco Rubio said, Listen, if your goal is to take out the nukes and the missiles, sure. 1.00

00:13:04.000 But if your goal is to regime change, this is stupid. 1.00

00:13:07.000 This is a garbage report. 1.00

00:13:08.000 President Trump liked what he saw because he's always wanted to take out Iran. 0.99

00:13:11.000 He's always wanted to take out Iranian nuclear capabilities.

00:13:14.000 Okay.

00:13:15.000 So there is a misconception that Trump is getting dog walked into something when Trump sees intel that confirms what he wants already to do, which has already been his stated goal and purpose.

00:13:26.000 Then sure, he's going to find common cause.

00:13:28.000 But when it comes to the fact that Israel is not playing ball in Lebanon and he wants to see that conflict simmer down so it doesn't rock the boat with the Iranian peace negotiations, something he's very committed to, then they are at different ends of the policy.

00:13:46.000 So he's going to exert his position.

00:13:48.000 President Trump likes to get what he wants, shockingly.

00:13:51.000 Yeah, it doesn't matter if he's president of Russia.

00:13:54.000 That's why he's been president twice in part.

00:13:57.000 Because they almost said he couldn't do it.

00:13:59.000 And similarly, there's a lot of things he does because people say it can't be done or other people have failed to do it.

00:14:05.000 He's that kind of winner.

00:14:06.000 He likes to get wins that he thinks nobody else has been able to do.

00:14:09.000 And he doesn't fall back on common misconceptions or the foreign policy establishment perception or conclusion that X, Y, Z can't be done.

00:14:19.000 He's like, I can force this through by my sheer will and my force of personnel.

00:14:24.000 President Trump's self conception of himself is winner.

00:14:27.000 He is a winner who gets wins.

00:14:28.000 That's.

00:14:29.000 Whether you agree or not, that is how he sees himself.

00:14:31.000 That is how he wants to define his legacy.

00:14:34.000 Now, like we said, some people think the Iran war is a mistake.

00:14:39.000 I think starting the Iran war was a mistake on balance.

00:14:42.000 But it is something President Trump chose to do.

00:14:45.000 And I don't think he chose to do it because he has some guy in Tel Aviv or in Jerusalem dog walking him the whole time and calling him and saying, do this.

00:14:53.000 And he's like, yes, yes, master, which is the line that crazies are putting on the camera.

00:14:57.000 So let me just play this clip.

00:14:59.000 So this is, I consider Megan Kelly a friend.

00:15:01.000 I don't know Sean Ryan.

00:15:03.000 Obviously, there's been a lot of controversy around Megan with some of her Israel commentary and another thing.

00:15:08.000 She's on the other side of President Trump right now.

00:15:10.000 But they did a podcast where they talk about what MAGA is.

00:15:14.000 And I'm playing this clip because I think they recorded this before this Axio story broke.

00:15:18.000 But this is the misconception.

00:15:20.000 This is the messaging that's going out there to so many people.

00:15:24.000 SOT 31.

00:15:26.000 It's core MAGA now.

00:15:27.000 I have no idea.

00:15:28.000 I think I know.

00:15:29.000 Trump has said from the beginning.

00:15:30.000 Codophile supporting Israeli lobby?

00:15:33.000 I have no idea. 0.55

00:15:35.000 Need a different acronym.

00:15:37.000 But Trump has said from the beginning that he defines what MAGA is.

00:15:40.000 MAGA is what I say it is, he has said.

00:15:42.000 And he's not wrong.

00:15:43.000 It's his moniker, it's his campaign slogan.

00:15:48.000 And all along, he's defined what is and is not MAGA.

00:15:51.000 And he told me personally, MAGA will feel the way I want them to feel.

00:15:55.000 I'll tell them how to feel about this, that, or the other thing, and they will.

00:15:59.000 And he has been totally right on that.

00:16:03.000 The problem for Trump now is that he has defined MAGA literally to those who agree with Mark Levin.

00:16:10.000 If you don't agree with Mark Levin, you're not MAGA, which means you must be a neocon whose main issue is what's in the best interest of Israel.

00:16:20.000 So, I play that clip for you to explain how deep this narrative goes within like the internet circles and the dark, wet.

00:16:29.000 Like, if you support President Trump, they are trying to basically say, not just necessarily Megan, but Sean seems to say it pretty directly right there, that you are a neocon, that you are a pedo protector, that you are an Israel first or whatever sort of pejorative they're slinging at you.

00:16:45.000 When the truth is, probably much more closely aligned with the fact that President Trump wants what's best.

00:16:51.000 In the interest of America, and he has made the decision to attack Iran. 0.68

00:16:56.000 He made that decision himself. 0.78

00:16:58.000 Now, you can disagree with it.

00:16:59.000 Blake and I have been skeptical about this Iran war from the jump.

00:17:03.000 I think Charlie was very skeptical about going into Iran.

00:17:07.000 But Charlie also understood that we elected President Trump to make hard decisions, and he has proven not to get us into endless quagmires. 0.72

00:17:14.000 Now, Iran is the greatest challenge yet, and he's trying to get out, and he wants peace, and he's going to tell everybody in his way to get the heck out.

00:17:21.000 And that's what you're seeing in this Axios story reveal.

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00:18:51.000 All right, we have a very special segment.

00:18:56.000 Many of you in the audience are going to know that we had a guest, I guess about a month ago, just lit me on fire.

00:19:02.000 I couldn't believe it.

00:19:03.000 The teachers' unions are running amok.

00:19:04.000 They're basically a super PAC.

00:19:06.000 For the Democrat Party, and they're protecting child abusers.

00:19:10.000 They're doing all kinds of terrible things.

00:19:13.000 And the way you break the back of the teachers' unions in this country is something called school choice.

00:19:17.000 It's very simple, and parents love it, students thrive on it.

00:19:21.000 And the Democrats and the progressives seem to hate it for some reason.

00:19:24.000 But we have two amazing guests here in studio that are going to help us unpack this and what you can do in the audience to take advantage of something that was inside the one big, beautiful bill.

00:19:34.000 And that is Norton Rainey, CEO of Ace Scholarships, and Natasha Harris, co founder of.

00:19:40.000 Colorado Christian Academy.

00:19:41.000 Welcome to you both.

00:19:42.000 Thank you.

00:19:43.000 Great to see you.

00:19:43.000 Norton, I've known you for a while now.

00:19:45.000 It's good to see you, sir.

00:19:46.000 You too.

00:19:46.000 All right.

00:19:47.000 So I want to make sure I got my facts straight.

00:19:50.000 There's something called the Education Freedom Tax Credit.

00:19:55.000 Okay.

00:19:56.000 Norton, I'm going to start with you.

00:19:57.000 What is the Education Freedom Tax Credit?

00:20:01.000 And how do people watching here, whether they're grandparents, parents, or their students themselves, how do they take advantage of this?

00:20:08.000 Well, first of all, what an honor it is to be on the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:20:11.000 It's such a big fan of you.

00:20:12.000 Thank you so much for just this flame, this light that you keep going in our country.

00:20:17.000 The Education Freedom Tax Credit is.

00:20:19.000 Truly an exciting opportunity for our country.

00:20:22.000 It's actually a groundbreaking opportunity.

00:20:24.000 Passed into law last year in the big, beautiful bill, President Trump signed this in, where every single state in America has the ability now and every person in America to claim a $1,700 federal tax credit when they donate money to a program like ACE scholarships or a scholarship granting organization.

00:20:42.000 And what that now means is that Americans have the ability to give money, receive a credit, so kids can go to a great private school, they can homeschool their kids.

00:20:51.000 And even children that are in a public school have the ability to use this money for before and after school programs.

00:20:58.000 So this is an all-encompassing program that is good for America.

00:21:02.000 And the reason why it's so critical to your point about the union stronghold we have in America is that we have a crisis in America.

00:21:10.000 We have kids right now that are being left behind.

00:21:12.000 It's a two-party system, so to speak. 0.78

00:21:14.000 You've got the haves and the have-nots.

00:21:16.000 You've got those with money, and those with money, they put their kid into a private school or live in a neighborhood where a good public school exists.

00:21:25.000 But if you're poor, you're oftentimes trapped in a school in a zip code that's not performing well for you.

00:21:32.000 So, what the Education Freedom Tax Credit will do, it will level the playing field now so that we can actually live the American dream for our children where they can be educated, they can graduate, they can go to college, the trades, the military.

00:21:45.000 But most importantly, whatever they decide to do, they are educated and they have a foundation that now prepares them for life.

00:21:52.000 I totally agree.

00:21:54.000 And by the way, I just want people to understand I met Norton through Charlie.

00:21:58.000 You know, Charlie.

00:21:59.000 Challenge Norton to grow ACE because Charlie identified this problem long ago.

00:22:04.000 He was ahead of the curve naturally.

00:22:07.000 And so, I mean, you guys have been around for what, 26 years, 121,000 scholarships, like $400 million delivered in scholarships.

00:22:16.000 So you got a proven track record.

00:22:18.000 And now this EFTC, this Education Freedom Tax Credit, comes along.

00:22:23.000 And so if I'm a parent, and you guys have seized the opportunity, I think it's so great because it's so important.

00:22:30.000 So if I'm a parent and I, I've got my kid in a failing public school.

00:22:34.000 I now, my state has opted in to this.

00:22:37.000 By the way, Arizona's not opting in because we have Katie Hobbs, another reason we need to get Andy Biggs elected here.

00:22:44.000 So the state opts in.

00:22:46.000 That then makes me eligible to take my kid out of a failing public school.

00:22:51.000 I can, the money that I paid for tuition, I then get a tax credit on.

00:22:54.000 Is that how it works?

00:22:55.000 Or maybe I can't afford it, but my parents want to chip in and help my kids.

00:23:00.000 Well, the way you leverage the tax credit is that you give the $1,700.

00:23:04.000 And then when you file your taxes the next year, that's where you receive a refund on your money when you file those taxes.

00:23:10.000 30 states to date have opted in the program.

00:23:13.000 And so that's the first thing that must happen.

00:23:15.000 A governor has to say, yes, we want this program in our state.

00:23:19.000 And to the credit of a couple Democratic governors, we have New York and also Colorado, where our home state, where ACE was founded, Governor Jared Polis was one of the first people to opt in this program because he saw the value in education, even in a state that tends to be blue.

00:23:35.000 So when the governor opts in beginning in January 2027, what we will start doing today is collecting donations of $1,700, and then the next year when they file their taxes, they get that money back.

00:23:48.000 What this will do is that we're going to go from a program that currently is serving 16,000 kids per year.

00:23:54.000 To hundreds of thousands of kids, to unlocking possibilities for kids to go to the school of their choice, to fill seats in private schools.

00:24:02.000 And what we really love is competition in America.

00:24:04.000 We think competition makes everyone better.

00:24:07.000 And through this program, now what's going to happen is that all boats will rise, including even public schools.

00:24:12.000 That's the beauty of this program.

00:24:13.000 By the way, I totally agree with that.

00:24:15.000 Well, yeah, it's like a lot of these unions that we've grappled with, they hate the idea of competition because as long as they have everyone stuck going with what they have to offer, they have.

00:24:15.000 Yeah, go ahead, Blake.

00:24:28.000 No expectations.

00:24:29.000 Yeah, it's a monopoly.

00:24:29.000 It's a monopoly.

00:24:31.000 And what can monopolies do? 0.78

00:24:32.000 They can jack up the prices effectively, taxes, their own pay. 0.98

00:24:36.000 They don't need to deliver a high quality product.

00:24:39.000 The pressure is very low on them.

00:24:40.000 I mean, look what happened during COVID where teachers could say, We demand you shut down schools.

00:24:45.000 And then we don't want to go back because we feel it's unsafe or whatever.

00:24:49.000 And you're going to learn through a laptop.

00:24:51.000 This is a great transition, Natasha.

00:24:53.000 So you have a massive background in private school.

00:24:56.000 So I have what Blake just described during COVID the public schools where I was at were all closed down.

00:25:02.000 But we were sending our kids to a Christian private school and they just got creative. 0.99

00:25:07.000 They took everything outside. 1.00

00:25:09.000 You know, this is early days.

00:25:10.000 We didn't, you know, so they were trying to be cautious, but all the education happened outside.

00:25:14.000 None of the kids wore a mask.

00:25:16.000 Our kids had no idea COVID was even happening because the Christian school got creative and they decided locally hey, we're going to keep learning, we're going to keep meeting in person.

00:25:25.000 And it benefited and blessed my children tremendously.

00:25:28.000 You have this background, you understand the power of private school.

00:25:32.000 Private education, Christian education.

00:25:34.000 So, explain that to the audience.

00:25:37.000 Yeah, thank you for that.

00:25:38.000 I think it goes back to the family, right?

00:25:41.000 It goes back to the parents who know their children most deeply.

00:25:45.000 They know their strengths, their weaknesses, right?

00:25:47.000 Their hopes, their dreams.

00:25:49.000 And so, when you look at our education system and you say, we live in the land of the free, but education, we don't have that choice most times, right?

00:25:59.000 There's financial barriers to making that choice for our kids to be able to go to private schools or another public school.

00:26:06.000 Right, that suits their kids' needs.

00:26:07.000 And so, this really, I'm excited about it because no different than COVID, right, where you have innovation that comes into play to really serve the child.

00:26:16.000 That's what we should be doing in education come where they are and what their needs are and what their hopes and dreams and academic goals are and meet them where they're at, right?

00:26:26.000 We can do that with this Freedom Tax Credit because we put the money back in the hands of the parents and the parents can make that decision of what school best suits their family and aligns with their value.

00:26:35.000 I love that.

00:26:36.000 And gosh, I can just tell you, I've lived it.

00:26:39.000 Arizona, they're trying to claw back the school choice that Governor Ducey, by the way, people disagree, love Ducey, hate Ducey, whatever.

00:26:47.000 Ducey is a freaking hero in my book because Arizona is leading the pack when it comes to school choice.

00:26:53.000 You get a $7,500 credit every year to send your kids wherever you want. 0.95

00:26:57.000 And the public teachers unions hate it.

00:27:00.000 But what has happened in Arizona?

00:27:02.000 You have this thriving entrepreneurial spirit around education.

00:27:06.000 You know, where my kids go, they've got like an 800 person waiting list.

00:27:10.000 The school was only.

00:27:11.000 Formed a couple years ago.

00:27:12.000 And it's thriving, and the kids are thriving because they're doing things a different way.

00:27:16.000 They're getting back to classical education.

00:27:18.000 They're inspiring entrepreneurship, all this thing.

00:27:21.000 The public schools are trapped in like a hell of their own making, but then they control all this political power.

00:27:27.000 And when you break the back of that, you unleash the American spirit in this way, right, Norton?

00:27:32.000 I mean, that's what we're talking about.

00:27:33.000 It's such a huge win.

00:27:34.000 Just you think of where, if you have a child, where are they going to spend most of their, like more hours than anywhere else in the first 18 years of their life?

00:27:44.000 It's going to be in schools.

00:27:46.000 And you concede that to the state to, Actors like unionized teachers that we know are ideologically left wing.

00:27:52.000 We know what they love to push.

00:27:54.000 And for, as you say, I think Governor Ducey has to be considered a hero because he is freeing up what is by far the most important thing that your child is going to do.

00:28:04.000 Go ahead.

00:28:05.000 Oh, I was just going to say to your point about the K through 12 system, a child will be in school for 10,000 hours from kindergarten through 12th grade.

00:28:13.000 And when you think about that, the book Good to Great, he talks about in that book, excellence actually is achieved by 10,000 hours of doing something really well.

00:28:20.000 Well, the same is true if you're in a school system for 10,000 hours.

00:28:23.000 And you're not being educated and you're in the wrong place that's not good for you, you're going to have an opposite effect and that child will not do well.

00:28:31.000 Depression, anxiety, and suicide are greater than ever before.

00:28:35.000 But the beauty is, we know that there is a choice.

00:28:37.000 There is a hope right now where you can do something so that every child can be educated.

00:28:42.000 What Arizona has done is remarkable.

00:28:44.000 What 30 plus states around the country have done already opting in this program is awesome because that's good for children and it's good for America.

00:28:52.000 It now is going to enable people to be educated.

00:28:54.000 And that's good economically for our country so that children are not reliant on the government for their support.

00:29:00.000 Give us a story, Norton, to bring this home of how this actually is impacting lives.

00:29:06.000 Well, number one, the results are undeniable.

00:29:07.000 We have so many data points about how well our kids are doing.

00:29:10.000 But like you said, it really comes down to the stories of our kids and our parents and how they're being benefited by school choice.

00:29:17.000 And about three months ago, the president reached out to us and said that we're going to do a feature on school choice for Black History Month.

00:29:23.000 And we want a story.

00:29:24.000 And so I had the honor of going to the White House.

00:29:27.000 With a lady named Greta Alexander, who's a mother of a beautiful girl named Miracle in Dallas, Texas.

00:29:33.000 And her story is heartbreaking and it's also remarkable at the same time.

00:29:37.000 She had an older son and he was subjected to a school that wasn't working for him.

00:29:41.000 He got involved in the wrong audience and crowd.

00:29:44.000 And sadly, he committed suicide.

00:29:46.000 He lost his life.

00:29:48.000 And she said, I made a promise to make sure that my younger daughter, Miracle, would be educated and that she would be in an environment that was positive and affirming for who she is.

00:29:57.000 And because of ACE scholarships, her daughter, Miracle, was able to go to a great private school in Dallas.

00:30:02.000 And she truly is a miracle.

00:30:03.000 She turned her life around.

00:30:04.000 She's graduating from high school this year.

00:30:07.000 And when Greta stood on the stage with the president next to him and said, Mr. President, what you have done by signing this piece of legislation, the Education Freedom Tax Credit, is not just going to benefit me, it's going to benefit the hundreds of thousands of moms just like me who are looking for hope, who are looking for a school, but right now are subjected to a school that's not working for our children.

00:30:31.000 So you are literally saving lives, not just academically.

00:30:34.000 But also, you are changing lives for people now who have the ability to thrive.

00:30:39.000 These stories are real.

00:30:41.000 We see right now, once again, depression, anxiety, and suicide greater than ever.

00:30:45.000 But conversely, like you mentioned with your kids and how they're thriving, children who are in the right environment smile, they're happy, and they're also optimistic about their life.

00:30:55.000 And that's what we see at ACE with the more than 121,000 students who've been served and are close to 100% who graduate.

00:31:02.000 These are real lives of kids who now have a chance to make it in this world.

00:31:06.000 And that's a power school choice.

00:31:07.000 Our country's stronger for it.

00:31:09.000 Maybe, Natasha, talk about what this means to some of these private schools, too, right?

00:31:14.000 I mean, what a massive boon for them as well, right?

00:31:18.000 Yeah, it's an absolute game changer.

00:31:19.000 I mean, this is exponentially going to change the landscape of education in the United States.

00:31:24.000 You know, taking individual credit programs like ESAs, I know that Arizona has that program, and we have each of these individual states with these programs, but at a national level now, we're going to see the opportunity for hundreds of thousands of scholarships.

00:31:41.000 So let's say that 10% of taxpayers that have a $1,700 tax liability participate.

00:31:48.000 That's almost $10 billion that's going to flow into private scholarships.

00:31:52.000 Oh my gosh.

00:31:53.000 If you realize how big this problem is and what that can mean to change the landscape of education in this country, and listen, at Turning Point, we're so focused on the next generation.

00:32:02.000 You realize in a very innate way how young they're getting, the kids, in these indoctrination factories and just the dead end education.

00:32:11.000 So to hear potentially $10 billion, maybe more, right?

00:32:14.000 I mean, the more people that take advantage of this, the more money's going to flow into private education, classical education, hybrid education.

00:32:21.000 The opportunity is immense.

00:32:23.000 And you think about this kind of with Trump accounts, you know, like thinking about this next generation.

00:32:27.000 Some of the stuff in the big, beautiful bill is truly revolutionary for our country in the best of ways.

00:32:32.000 Okay, so we have to get down to it.

00:32:34.000 I like, you got to talk, Norton.

00:32:37.000 There's people in the audience that probably don't even really understand what the tax credit is, how to take advantage of it.

00:32:42.000 Like, the whole point of this, I want you in the audience to feel empowered with your kids' education, your grandkids' education, whatever that is.

00:32:50.000 You have to know what you're talking about.

00:32:51.000 So break it down in layman's terms.

00:32:55.000 Like, what's a tax credit?

00:32:56.000 How do they take advantage of it?

00:32:57.000 When can they take advantage of it?

00:32:59.000 How to do it?

00:33:00.000 Well, number one is that most families in America will qualify.

00:33:03.000 The qualifying metric is 300% of your median income in your neighborhood.

00:33:07.000 And that means a lot of families who make $400,000 or less per year will qualify.

00:33:12.000 So that means most Americans will have access.

00:33:14.000 This is not only for certain people, it is basically for everyone.

00:33:18.000 Secondly, is that your state has to opt in.

00:33:20.000 When they opt in, that means you now have the power.

00:33:22.000 So if you are a parent, encourage your governor to opt in this program.

00:33:27.000 In the beginning of January 2027, you can actually make a $1,700 gift to a program like Ace Scholarships.

00:33:34.000 You can make that a one time gift.

00:33:36.000 You can do multiple payments over the year to make it easier to spread those payments out.

00:33:39.000 So it's just you max out per person, per taxpayer at $1,700, though, right?

00:33:44.000 That's right.

00:33:45.000 Okay.

00:33:45.000 So, but I can use your feature at Ace Scholarships to do it, right?

00:33:50.000 That's right.

00:33:50.000 And then what's the website?

00:33:52.000 What's the website that they should go to?

00:33:54.000 It's educationfreedomtaxcredit.org.

00:33:57.000 And at that point, we will put you on our list and we will inform you.

00:34:01.000 And we will coach you how to make sure that you can take advantage of this beginning in January 2027.

00:34:06.000 It is a no brainer.

00:34:07.000 It's not like a traditional tax deduction for a charity.

00:34:10.000 You truly do receive this money back.

00:34:12.000 It costs you nothing.

00:34:14.000 And that means you're radically transforming America's kids will now have hope in their families.

00:34:18.000 And you personally may also benefit, not just financially, but also with your kids receiving money as well.

00:34:23.000 That's excellent.

00:34:24.000 I mean, so your promise to this audience is that through that website, educationfreedomtaxcredit.org, you make it super simple.

00:34:33.000 Absolutely.

00:34:33.000 So, like that person out there that hates paperwork and all that stuff, you make it.

00:34:38.000 This will be a seamless process.

00:34:40.000 And we're so proud we've developed a technology product, which is like an HSA program that will make it an end to end product, which is going to be seamless for you as a donor, a parent, and a school.

00:34:50.000 Also, if you're a school, sign up as well.

00:34:52.000 We can serve you and take care of the administrative support.

00:34:55.000 And then the other thing, too, which is really important for people to understand, because this is really critical, is that when you invest in education, you're investing in America, you're investing in a better country.

00:35:05.000 And without education, People don't have a chance for you to level the playing field.

00:35:10.000 This has been really informative, guys.

00:35:12.000 I hope that you in the audience realize that you are empowered now to bless your kids, your grandkids, in ways that you have not been able to do before.

00:35:21.000 And you get $1,700 back.

00:35:25.000 $10 billion injected into the private school ecosystem in this country.

00:35:29.000 Help make it better, make it great again.

00:35:32.000 We're seeing it in Arizona.

00:35:33.000 I'm telling you, it is a breakthrough.

00:35:35.000 You can break the backs of the unions, and you can ensure that the next generation has the proper education that they need.

00:35:41.000 So thank you guys for coming.

00:35:42.000 Thank you.

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00:36:59.000 Our state to the west, you might have heard of it.

00:37:02.000 It's called California.

00:37:03.000 They got a big election today.

00:37:05.000 And listen, we're pulling out all the stops for the next governor of the great state of California.

00:37:11.000 And that's Steve Hilton, who joins us now.

00:37:14.000 Steve, welcome back.

00:37:16.000 Hey, guys.

00:37:17.000 Great to be with you.

00:37:18.000 Yeah.

00:37:18.000 Well, listen, you've got a lot going on today.

00:37:20.000 So thank you for making the time.

00:37:22.000 Give us the state of play.

00:37:24.000 I'm seeing, and I don't like it, Steve, I'm seeing polls with a certain former cabinet official of the Biden years up at the top.

00:37:35.000 And I don't like that at all.

00:37:38.000 What is the state of play?

00:37:39.000 So I think that the accurate way to say it is that we're now in a three horse race in California for two spots.

00:37:47.000 We have this insane system, the top two.

00:37:50.000 That means you could have two Democrats.

00:37:52.000 Because the other two are Democrats.

00:37:54.000 You've got Biden's useless former HHS Secretary, Javier Becerra, and you've got the billionaire climate fanatic, Tom Steyer, who spent now $200 million, more than that, $220 million trying to buy this election.

00:38:07.000 Now, here's what we're looking at with the polls.

00:38:09.000 In the last week, we've had a huge number of polls.

00:38:12.000 Most of them have shown me in the top two, some of them leading, some of them second.

00:38:18.000 One of them showed me actually third, one point behind Tom Steyer.

00:38:23.000 And the truth is, when we look at these polls, they're all telling the same story.

00:38:29.000 It's getting tighter at the top because the Democrats are consolidating.

00:38:33.000 Some of their lower count, you see it right there, Katie Porter, she was on 12 or 13 points about two weeks ago.

00:38:38.000 Now she's right down in single digits.

00:38:40.000 So that's what's going on.

00:38:42.000 The most important thing to bear in mind, though, is that when we look at our internal polls and some of the polls that have been out there run by campaigns, including a poll from a well respected Democrat pollster last Friday, that had me leading at 27.

00:38:57.000 Becerra at 26, Steyer at 22.

00:38:59.000 Here's the important point it had Chad Bianco, the other Republican, at nine.

00:39:04.000 And so the first point to make is that in this, if this was a regular primary, as we have in most other states, then I'll have won the Republican primary by a landslide.

00:39:14.000 In these polls, we're doubling Chad Bianco's vote in all the polls.

00:39:20.000 And that's the really important point here that I want to emphasize to everyone who's listening and watching in California.

00:39:26.000 We've got an amazing opportunity, actually, outside of California, wants to help turn our state around because it's so important for America.

00:39:33.000 We've got a really important opportunity this year, it's a golden opportunity.

00:39:36.000 Because you can see it in the energy around Spencer Pratt's campaign in LA.

00:39:41.000 You can see it on the road when we're going up and down the state, the crowds that are coming to our events.

00:39:45.000 There is real hunger for change in California this year.

00:39:49.000 That's not just hyperbole.

00:39:50.000 You can see it in the numbers.

00:39:51.000 There's in every poll a majority, a clear majority, sometimes as high as 60%, say that the state is going in the wrong direction.

00:39:58.000 In other words, in the general election in November, I truly believe we can win because the level of anger at what's gone on with the homelessness, the crime, the chaos, gas prices, housing costs, the taxes, the fraud, The level of anger is off the charts, and so we really can win this year, especially because the other Democrat candidates are so bad, they got nothing positive to offer, they're offering no change.

00:40:24.000 Yeah, that won't happen unless you get me in the top two.

00:40:27.000 So, actually, in some ways, I think the general election is going to be easier to navigate than this primary today.

00:40:35.000 The most important point people have to bear in mind if you're a voter in California and you're thinking, Steve looks like he's got this in most of the polls, he's in the top two.

00:40:44.000 Let's try and get Chad Bianco in the top two and vote for him.

00:40:48.000 That is a disastrous mistake.

00:40:50.000 He's too far behind.

00:40:52.000 It's not going to happen.

00:40:53.000 Every vote for him or for any other candidate than me actually makes it more likely we'll get two Democrats, which is a disaster.

00:41:01.000 So please take that very seriously.

00:41:03.000 Make sure you vote today and for the only candidate who can realistically get in the top two, and that's me.

00:41:08.000 Yeah, and I saw you were on Laura Ingram's show yesterday, last evening.

00:41:14.000 Directly, or you and Laura sort of collectively called for Chad Bianco to drop out.

00:41:20.000 I got nothing against Chad Bianco per se, but like he's got no chance here.

00:41:24.000 Okay.

00:41:25.000 So have you been in contact?

00:41:26.000 Is this, is he, is he signaling anything like throw your weight behind Steve?

00:41:31.000 Have we gotten any follow through here?

00:41:32.000 No, we've tried, believe me.

00:41:33.000 I mean, weeks ago I tried.

00:41:35.000 Many others have tried as well.

00:41:38.000 I think we've got to the point where it's clear that he's not going to do that.

00:41:41.000 So I'm really appealing directly to his supporters.

00:41:43.000 And I make the same point as you nothing personal.

00:41:45.000 I have the highest respect for the campaign he's run.

00:41:48.000 For the service he's given in law enforcement for many, many, many decades.

00:41:53.000 We agree on pretty much every policy area.

00:41:55.000 That was very evident during the TV debates.

00:41:58.000 We have a good relationship.

00:41:59.000 Very, you know, it's nothing personal.

00:42:01.000 It really isn't.

00:42:02.000 And in fact, I've said very clearly, I would love to have Chad on the team.

00:42:05.000 Let's work together to save California and whatever role he would like.

00:42:09.000 But that hasn't unlocked the path to a conversation, I'm afraid.

00:42:15.000 And so I'm just appealing directly to Chad's supporters.

00:42:19.000 And again, I want to say very clearly, I respect that.

00:42:21.000 I don't want to talk you out of that, except to say this.

00:42:25.000 We all want the same thing to save California.

00:42:28.000 Chad does.

00:42:28.000 That's why he's put himself out there this year, everyone who's supporting him.

00:42:32.000 And right now, it's not about the personalities or even the policies.

00:42:36.000 It's actually just about the math.

00:42:39.000 I hate that that's the case with this system, but it is.

00:42:42.000 And so let's not throw away this chance.

00:42:44.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:42:45.000 I have to play this.

00:42:47.000 I don't want to discourage anybody from voting.

00:42:49.000 So if you have a ballot, Or if you don't and you want to go vote, go vote in California today.

00:42:55.000 Go vote in person.

00:42:56.000 Drop your ballot off, whatever you got to do.

00:42:58.000 I don't care which way you do it, Steve.

00:43:00.000 I don't know if you have direct action items of how you prefer people doing this, but this story came out yesterday.

00:43:04.000 I just want to get your quick, it's a quick clip, get your reaction to it, and encourage voters, despite it, to get out.

00:43:11.000 SOT 27.

00:43:12.000 Vote by mail ballots were found burned inside a ballot box in Los Angeles just two days before the California primaries.

00:43:20.000 Election officials discovered the damaged ballots and they filed a report with the police department.

00:43:26.000 They say a separate voting center was also vandalized.

00:43:29.000 Okay.

00:43:30.000 Again, I only bring it up because I want you to address those people in the audience.

00:43:35.000 Steve, that are thinking why it doesn't matter or anything like that.

00:43:40.000 Tell them, give them the marching orders right now, Steve.

00:43:43.000 Yeah, thank you.

00:43:44.000 And look, there's so much wrong with the election system here.

00:43:46.000 This insane sending out ballots to everybody when we know that the voter rolls are so wrong. 0.95

00:43:53.000 But here's the, and these drop, the whole thing is ridiculous.

00:43:56.000 But of course, we can only change it if we actually get elected.

00:44:00.000 And that's why the most important message here is the president's words in 2024 make it too big to rig.

00:44:06.000 That's the most important thing to bear in mind.

00:44:08.000 Every single vote counts, every single one.

00:44:11.000 The other thing I'd just say is actually, even here in California, we're seeing some progress thanks to the Trump administration.

00:44:18.000 And in fact, my running mate, the Attorney General, which is that we've actually, because of lawsuits filed by the federal government, the cleanup of the voter rolls is really happening in California.

00:44:29.000 Millions and millions of incorrect names have been removed from the voter rolls just in the last year.

00:44:36.000 That's real progress.

00:44:38.000 The second thing that's a big deal.

00:44:40.000 Is that this insanity that we have in California, which is they count the votes even if they arrive up to seven days after Election Day.

00:44:49.000 And there's been so many reports of shenanigans around that.

00:44:53.000 People writing the date on the ballot that's actually cast after Election Day and pretending it was sent in before.

00:45:00.000 Well, the Supreme Court is now looking at a case.

00:45:02.000 We expect a ruling, it could be any day, that will make that illegal nationwide.

00:45:07.000 Election Day is Election Day, and that's it.

00:45:10.000 I'm sure it will be in effect for our general election in November in California.

00:45:14.000 And so the system is getting better.

00:45:17.000 But the only way to be sure we can get in a position to change it is to go vote today if you haven't already.

00:45:22.000 Yeah.

00:45:23.000 And guys, I just thank you for that, Steve.

00:45:25.000 The system's getting better.

00:45:26.000 There are changes.

00:45:27.000 The voter rolls have been cleaned up.

00:45:29.000 Some still work to do.

00:45:31.000 But these are all wind in our sails right here to get Steve over the finish line and get him in the top two.

00:45:36.000 So do not lose faith.

00:45:37.000 The worst thing you could do, whether you're a big Pratt supporter or you're a big Steve Hilton supporter, In California, it is to give in to nihilism, into doomerism.

00:45:46.000 Just get out and get it done today.

00:45:47.000 Get your ballot in the box, go in person, hand it off in person, whatever it is you got to do.

00:45:52.000 Tell your boss you got to take a long lunch, whatever.

00:45:56.000 Get your ballot in today.

00:45:58.000 Get behind Steve Hilton.

00:45:59.000 We have to have a viable Republican candidate in the state of California.

00:46:04.000 That is step one.

00:46:05.000 Step two, Steve, and you know this well, we've got voter ID on the ballot in November.

00:46:09.000 That's going to be more wind in our sails.

00:46:11.000 The base is going to be motivated to get out, and California needs to change desperately.

00:46:16.000 Steve Hilton, we got your back.

00:46:17.000 Vote Steve Hilton today.

00:46:19.000 Do it.

00:46:19.000 Do it now.

00:46:20.000 Do it for California.

00:46:21.000 Do it for the country.

00:46:22.000 Steve, we got your back.

00:46:23.000 We're praying for a great result tonight.

00:46:25.000 Thank you, guys.

00:46:25.000 Appreciate it very much.

00:46:27.000 Thanks.

00:46:27.000 All right.

00:46:30.000 I want to get into something because I've been texting back and forth with Rich Barris, who we have on the show a lot.

00:46:35.000 He's a pollster.

00:46:36.000 And he keeps sending me these signals.

00:46:38.000 He's like, Andrew, you don't understand.

00:46:40.000 They're getting more and more radical.

00:46:42.000 The Democrat Party of the last generation is dead.

00:46:48.000 They are beholden to the activist base and slowly are being transformed into DSA.

00:46:53.000 Most Democrats essentially ascribe to socialism.

00:46:57.000 100%.

00:46:58.000 So, they're not like, you know, capitalists that like to distribute the wealth.

00:47:03.000 No, they're actually legitimately socialists now.

00:47:08.000 So, when you get black pilled on President Trump, if you're tempted to give in to nihilism or doomerism, do you not understand that what we're up against is a socialist behemoth that is growing in size and they're becoming more and more radicalized?

00:47:24.000 I mean, if you want to comment on that.

00:47:25.000 It's a tremendous crisis because, yeah, we.

00:47:30.000 But we lucked out in America, frankly, that the Democrat Party has always been left wing, but we dodged having this very large socialist, overtly Marxist party the way it's very common in Europe.

00:47:42.000 It's very common throughout the third world. 0.92

00:47:44.000 Unfortunately, we have imported the third world to America and we've imported third world ideologies. 0.91

00:47:49.000 And that means we have young people, the Hassan Piker followers of this world, the AOC followers of this world, the, as we're about to see, Bernie Sanders followers of this world, who, Actually, just embrace socialism, government ownership of the means of production, and abolishing private ownership of things, abolishing private property. 0.95

00:48:08.000 Yeah. 0.71

00:48:09.000 So let's just go ahead and play this.

00:48:10.000 This is Bernie Sanders.

00:48:11.000 This is a big new idea, millions of engagements.

00:48:15.000 It's not a new idea.

00:48:17.000 This is as old as Marxism itself, but nevertheless, he's presenting it as a new idea.

00:48:22.000 32.

00:48:22.000 In the coming weeks, I will introduce the American AI Sovereign Wealth Fund Act.

00:48:30.000 This legislation would give the public a direct ownership stake in the largest AI companies in America through a one time 50% tax, not on profits, but on stock.

00:48:45.000 It would guarantee that the trillions potentially created by AI are used to improve the lives of all of us, not simply to make the richest people on earth even richer.

00:48:58.000 So, Blake, you're a.

00:49:01.000 Scholarly man, and you know the Constitution.

00:49:04.000 Where in the Constitution does it say you can just seize the means of production?

00:49:08.000 Well, so you actually, the sad thing is, is you could, you would just have to compensate them for it.

00:49:13.000 Although that's why he's clearly framing it as a tax.

00:49:16.000 If he says, if I frame it as a tax, then it's not a takings the way it usually would be.

00:49:21.000 If the government's going to seize your house, then they have to pay you for the house through things like eminent domain.

00:49:26.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:49:27.000 They have to pay you for the house for public purpose.

00:49:29.000 But if he's framing it as a tax, clearly his gambit is, We can just take 50% of your company and it's a tax.

00:49:35.000 It's not a taking.

00:49:36.000 You don't have to pay them $500 billion or whatever it would be for it.

00:49:41.000 And it's also, besides being a scholar of the Constitution, scholar of history, it's a very sinister thing that he's doing.

00:49:47.000 Because if you want to look, it's very easy to spin this on people.

00:49:51.000 Oh, AI is big, it's rich.

00:49:52.000 We're taking it for the public good.

00:49:54.000 But so many countries' declines begin when you decide to have the government take over what is a thriving private sector endeavor.

00:50:02.000 Britain.

00:50:03.000 Britain used to be as rich as the United States.

00:50:06.000 Britain used to be the world's most powerful empire.

00:50:08.000 They did it on the backs of free enterprise.

00:50:10.000 They were the Silicon Valley of their day with central England.

00:50:14.000 And then they nationalized everything after World War II.

00:50:17.000 They went in a very socialist direction.

00:50:19.000 Britain's never been the same since they did that.

00:50:22.000 And you can just say, America, there's a reason America generated all these big AI companies that, however you feel about them, have been tremendously successful and innovative.

00:50:32.000 And they're not coming up out of Latin America.

00:50:34.000 They're not coming out of Europe. 0.91

00:50:36.000 Those are countries that don't have.

00:50:37.000 Our successful private sector.

00:50:39.000 Exactly.

00:50:40.000 So, America legitimately has all these advantages that are baked into the cake that we fail to understand and appreciate now.

00:50:48.000 And then these new wave of DSA, Democrat Socialists, or whatever, which is just code for basically socialists to communists, they're somewhere on the spectrum, they are misrepresenting our history.

00:51:00.000 They don't appreciate the capital markets and the way they move with such ease and fluidity and how massive a boon that is to entrepreneurs.

00:51:07.000 And guys like Mamdani, you know, Bernie Sanders was the forerunner of a lot of this stuff.

00:51:12.000 I mean, he vacationed, he honeymooned in Russia.

00:51:15.000 Okay, let's just put Bernie Sanders in a certain.

00:51:17.000 And by the way, you think Russia is all this great?

00:51:19.000 Like, listen, Russia is.

00:51:21.000 Putin's right about some things.

00:51:22.000 That does not mean that Russia.

00:51:24.000 Well, he didn't honeymoon in Russia.

00:51:25.000 He honeymooned in the Soviet Union. 0.70

00:51:28.000 Fair enough.

00:51:29.000 But this is why it's nerve wracking to me, because you got Mamdani saying the same things Bernie is.

00:51:34.000 Sot 33.

00:51:35.000 We have to continue to elect more socialists, and we have to ensure that we are unapologetic about our socialism. 0.57

00:51:44.000 There are also other issues that we firmly believe in, whether it's BDS, or whether it's the end goal of seizing the means of production, where we do not have the same level of support.

00:51:55.000 At this very moment.

00:51:56.000 And what I want to say is that it is critical that the way that we organize, the way that we set up our work and our priorities, that we do not leave any one issue for the other, that we do not meet a moment and only look at what people are ready for, but that we are doing both of these things in tandem.

00:52:15.000 It's not as sexy to talk about free markets and why it's important compared to the past, even on the American right, but it's still incredibly important.

00:52:24.000 Go.

00:52:25.000 Go look at average incomes in the United States since the Great Recession in 2008 versus how it's gone in Europe.

00:52:30.000 Europe used to be pretty comparable to us in incomes.

00:52:33.000 Now we're lapping them.

00:52:34.000 And the reason we're lapping them is we have a more free market system.

00:52:37.000 They have stagnated.

00:52:39.000 We have grown.

00:52:40.000 And we frankly should not abandon that.

00:52:42.000 And another thing to highlight, especially with AI, you think a government that owns 50% of AI and then we might have a Democrat administration again eventually.

00:52:51.000 Inevitably we will because we have elections.

00:52:53.000 Everything is subordinate to leftism.

00:52:56.000 For the left, you think they're going to maybe demand, oh, your AI models.

00:53:00.000 What sort of world do we want you to build?

00:53:02.000 How much hate speech do you allow?

00:53:04.000 Let's make sure these weights are, you know, liberalism is embedded in this system.

00:53:08.000 They will do that if they get their way.

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00:54:21.000 Without further ado, I will introduce our guest in studio, and that's Mike Kavanaugh.

00:54:26.000 Welcome to the studio.

00:54:27.000 Thank you, guys.

00:54:28.000 Yeah.

00:54:28.000 So I first connected with you just like on Twitter DM, actually.

00:54:33.000 And I noticed you had written a song after Charlie was assassinated.

00:54:38.000 And I thought it was so beautiful.

00:54:39.000 And I could tell that your heart was just so in this, like, in the right space.

00:54:44.000 In your heart was to tell Charlie's story and to lift up a great man in a world that is unaccustomed to doing so.

00:54:52.000 But that was my perception.

00:54:53.000 Why did you write a tribute song to Charlie Kirk, Mike?

00:54:56.000 Yeah.

00:54:58.000 Well, the day it happens, like many of us, I had a lot of emotions.

00:55:02.000 Anger was one of them.

00:55:03.000 And, you know, I didn't consider right away writing a song.

00:55:07.000 I actually, a friend of mine had written a song about Charlie Kirk, and I happened to see it on X, and I commented on it.

00:55:14.000 I said, Like, good job, good song.

00:55:17.000 And then you said, Your turn.

00:55:18.000 And that put the idea in my head.

00:55:20.000 And then everything was still very raw.

00:55:23.000 I mean, I think it was only a few days after it happened.

00:55:25.000 So my emotions were still very raw.

00:55:27.000 And I remember picking up the guitar and thinking, All right, maybe I do have something to say.

00:55:31.000 And about 10, 15 minutes of like strumming around, I remember just like saying out loud, I don't really have a song today.

00:55:40.000 And then I said, Well, that could be a line of a song.

00:55:43.000 And then it kind of went from there.

00:55:46.000 Yeah.

00:55:47.000 Yeah.

00:55:47.000 Isn't that interesting?

00:55:48.000 Kind of when you.

00:55:49.000 You get stripped bare of what you think you're supposed to say, and you just say what you actually mean and feel, what's real, how you kind of end up arriving at a deeper truth.

00:56:01.000 I've seen this song everywhere now on X.

00:56:04.000 It's really blown up.

00:56:05.000 And one of the people that have been promoting it is our friend Tommy Robinson over in the UK.

00:56:10.000 You went over to the UK to sing this song live in front of tens of thousands of people.

00:56:16.000 What was that like?

00:56:17.000 It's incredible.

00:56:18.000 And how did you get connected with Tommy?

00:56:20.000 Yeah, same thing on X. X can be an amazing place.

00:56:23.000 It can be a crazy place, too.

00:56:24.000 But yeah, he heard my music and he's like, mate, you've got to come over and sing it.

00:56:29.000 I can't really do it.

00:56:32.000 And so, yeah, we connected.

00:56:33.000 And yeah, he's like, we're doing a Charlie Kirk tribute.

00:56:35.000 We'd love you to sing the song.

00:56:37.000 And the rest is history.

00:56:39.000 It's incredible.

00:56:39.000 It really speaks to just what a figure he was around the world.

00:56:44.000 We saw memorials in Britain, we saw them in Serbia, we saw them in Japan and Korea.

00:56:50.000 And even in groups you wouldn't expect, I remember a religious service in Charlie's honor was at a, I'm not sure what they call it, but like a Sikh temple.

00:56:59.000 They had a service in honor of her.

00:57:00.000 I heard stories out of Iran, believe it or not, of like missionaries in Iran, these Iranian kids are getting converted.

00:57:08.000 And when Charlie was killed, they were just filled with the Holy Spirit and they went out proclaiming the gospel.

00:57:13.000 And they said, if Charlie was courageous enough to do this, you know, we want to be courageous like Charlie.

00:57:18.000 I just say, I've never seen that many people be silent before, too, during the tribute footage.

00:57:23.000 I mean, it was really something.

00:57:25.000 I do believe God was honored in that memorial.

00:57:28.000 I know it.

00:57:29.000 I know it.

00:57:30.000 As one of our friends said, the Holy Spirit was humming like a tuning fork in that memorial.

00:57:37.000 Why don't we play this song?

00:57:40.000 And this is tell us the name and all of that.

00:57:45.000 Yeah, the name of the song is called The Voice of the Age.

00:57:48.000 You can find it on iTunes if you enjoy it, and it is a tribute to Charlie Kirk.

00:58:06.000 I don't have a song today, Can't seem to find the right words to say.

00:58:17.000 I remember a time when Freedom would ring.

00:58:26.000 Now, talking to your neighbor ain't the same.

00:58:43.000 Now we lost the voice of the age.

00:58:48.000 Gotten down in a murderous rage.

00:58:53.000 I don't want a civil war, no.

00:58:58.000 Only God knows what it's for, though.

00:59:04.000 Gonna say his name.

00:59:09.000 Charlie Kirk died a martyr, not me.

00:59:29.000 Christ is Lord on the lips of every woman and man.

00:59:33.000 A widow cries out, I forgive you. 0.97

00:59:40.000 Now, men, let's go first.

00:59:43.000 You're gonna say his name.

00:59:49.000 Charlie Kirk.

01:00:09.000 Yeah that,

01:00:48.000 that chorus man.

01:00:52.000 Charlie Kirk died a martyr, not in vain.

01:00:55.000 Amen.

01:00:57.000 Wish he was here with us, but only God knows, right?

01:01:04.000 Yeah, that was beautiful, man.

01:01:07.000 Thank you so much.

01:01:10.000 We played some of the clips that you put together.

01:01:14.000 Studio did a great job actually syncing it up with your lyrics, so good job, studio.

01:01:20.000 What is.

01:01:22.000 What has it been like writing this song and the reaction from people?

01:01:25.000 And, you know, in a bigger question, what does Charlie sort of mean, do you think, as you've toured this song around and you've seen people's reaction?

01:01:34.000 Yeah, it's a great question.

01:01:37.000 Yeah, Charlie, I mean, he was obviously so gifted and intelligent and charismatic and all these things.

01:01:45.000 But I really think the biggest thing about him was his courage.

01:01:48.000 And I think that that's what resonates with people.

01:01:51.000 It's certainly what resonated with me.

01:01:52.000 Because I think the thing about courage is you don't need to have all those gifted, you don't need to be gifted like Charlie to have courage.

01:02:00.000 You can have the ordinary person can have courage.

01:02:03.000 And so to see a Christian man who had courage, the courage of his convictions, and I think that's what resonated with me, that's what I think resonating with other people with the song.

01:02:16.000 Yeah, he said he wanted to be remembered for courage for his faith, and he always talked about courage and said, the crazy good thing about courage is that you don't.

01:02:28.000 Need to be skilled to have it.

01:02:29.000 It's a choice.

01:02:31.000 And I think I ripped him off with my quote just then.

01:02:33.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:34.000 It's fair though.

01:02:35.000 I mean, he would tell that to people.

01:02:37.000 It's like, okay, you don't have a degree.

01:02:38.000 Okay, you don't have any special skills, at least not yet.

01:02:41.000 Do you have courage?

01:02:42.000 You can choose to have courage.

01:02:44.000 And I think like when I first met Charlie, that was the thing that stood out to me too, was that how boldly he said things.

01:02:51.000 He didn't couch things in sort of I think or I believe or you might disagree or what.

01:02:57.000 Like he just said it.

01:02:58.000 Yeah, I think too, just self reflection after the song, after Charlie died, I had realized like in my own life, I hadn't shown a whole lot of courage.

01:03:07.000 And I think when he died, something did change within me.

01:03:11.000 And I said, you know, because I think if more of us were courageous and speaking the truth boldly, it wouldn't have had to have happened, you know?

01:03:20.000 And so I felt partly like.

01:03:23.000 Man, that's part of it.

01:03:24.000 Yeah.

01:03:25.000 That's really, I mean, that's quite a thing you just said.

01:03:31.000 Yeah.

01:03:33.000 Yeah, that's an encouragement, I guess, to me and to Blake, to all of us, to everybody watching, listening.

01:03:39.000 If more of us were courageous, you know, people like Charlie wouldn't have to live in fear that some crazy person, you know, could do something so heinous.

01:03:50.000 If all of us were courageous, I don't think the entire world couldn't stop.

01:03:55.000 Yeah.

01:03:56.000 The gospel, the movement.

01:03:59.000 We just got a live studio performance from Mike Kavanaugh, who just wrote a beautiful tribute song to.

01:04:07.000 Charlie Kirk.

01:04:07.000 Mike, how long have you been?

01:04:09.000 By the way, it's called The Voice of the Age.

01:04:11.000 I want to make sure everybody has the name.

01:04:12.000 Go to iTunes, buy it today.

01:04:14.000 We want to chart, we want to go off the charts and support Mike as he's just telling the truth, which is a rarity in the artistry world these days, it seems.

01:04:25.000 How long have you been playing music and what's your background?

01:04:27.000 Tell us a little bit about yourself.

01:04:28.000 Yeah, I've been playing music my whole life.

01:04:31.000 My parents started me on the piano when I was five.

01:04:33.000 Where are you from?

01:04:34.000 I'm from Boston, Massachusetts originally.

01:04:37.000 Living in North Carolina now.

01:04:39.000 But yeah, I started early.

01:04:41.000 Like most young boys, I was more interested in basketball than I was in piano when I was younger.

01:04:45.000 But when I was older, I started to get into it more and started writing my own stuff.

01:04:51.000 And so I've been doing it for a long time.

01:04:53.000 Is that your full time gig?

01:04:54.000 And like, are you kind of mix and match?

01:04:56.000 Trying to.

01:04:56.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:04:58.000 So we need to support Mike so that he can do this full time and write more beautiful music like this.

01:05:03.000 So, you know, politics, especially for an artist, it can be tricky.

01:05:10.000 Obviously, when you put your name to something like this with Charlie.

01:05:14.000 There are ramifications, right?

01:05:16.000 Especially in music, because, you know, you've seen it with the America 250, all the artists dropping out.

01:05:22.000 We should get you to go sing a song.

01:05:23.000 Honestly, that's not a terrible idea.

01:05:25.000 You should sing the song at America 250.

01:05:28.000 We'll put a word in.

01:05:29.000 But, I mean, you know, explain that dynamic.

01:05:33.000 Like, you know, we put on concerts at Turning Point, it's hard.

01:05:38.000 Like, a lot of artists are scared of that.

01:05:41.000 What's it like for you?

01:05:43.000 Yeah.

01:05:44.000 Yeah.

01:05:46.000 Sort of around the time I wrote this song, is in a four or five month period, there is really when I started experimenting, putting my toe in the water, and writing songs that were about the issues of the day more specifically.

01:05:59.000 And it's been sort of like this polarization some people are just like, that's great.

01:06:06.000 And then some of the worst hate you can imagine, as you guys, I'm sure, understand.

01:06:11.000 But yeah, I think, like, you know, that Charlie helped push me into that.

01:06:18.000 Because what I realized is like nobody cares if you're just.

01:06:21.000 I mean, as a Christian, like I sing about sin.

01:06:23.000 I sing, I use the word sin.

01:06:25.000 I use the word.

01:06:26.000 And everyone's kind of like, that's great, good for you.

01:06:29.000 Once you start naming the actual sins of the age, that's when it pricks everybody.

01:06:35.000 But in order for the Holy Spirit to convict a person, they can't just be.

01:06:41.000 Understand that there's sin in general.

01:06:43.000 You have to understand what the sin is in order to turn and be saved.

01:06:47.000 So I kind of like.

01:06:49.000 That just kind of clicked with me somewhat recently.

01:06:52.000 God kind of showed that to me.

01:06:55.000 And so, but like all of these issues are wrapped up in politics, but they're also all just biblical issues.

01:07:02.000 They're not, there's not this separate category of politics and this other category is like God's stuff.

01:07:07.000 Like God's, all truth is God's truth.

01:07:09.000 God cares about all these things.

01:07:11.000 And we should be talking about that.

01:07:13.000 And that's what you guys do every day.

01:07:14.000 That's, I'm glad you said that because that actually is so similar to what Charlie would talk about.

01:07:20.000 You can't separate the two because everything relates to the gospel, everything relates to questions of sin and moral righteousness.

01:07:29.000 And also, I think getting back to courage, that's what made Charlie such an icon.

01:07:36.000 He was an icon to young people, even though he was routinely going on campuses, going on TikTok, going on X, and saying, Here's all these things I know all of you love to do.

01:07:45.000 All of them are bad.

01:07:46.000 You should stop doing them.

01:07:47.000 You should just get married.

01:07:48.000 You should have kids. 0.99

01:07:49.000 Yeah, just no premarital sex, no drugs, no debauchery. 1.00

01:07:54.000 We call it licentiousness.

01:07:55.000 Our founders called it licentiousness.

01:07:57.000 He named it.

01:07:57.000 He preached a gospel against this time, and yet he was loved by millions of people who, many of them, didn't necessarily follow him.

01:08:05.000 Many of them, if they did, very imperfectly so.

01:08:08.000 But they recognized how tremendous he was and that he 100% lived what he preached and believed.

01:08:15.000 We are temples of the Holy Spirit, and we are designed to recognize truth when we hear it.

01:08:20.000 It resonates in our spirit.

01:08:22.000 And music is very powerful for that purpose.

01:08:25.000 And it's been used for.

01:08:28.000 Powerfully for the wrong ends, so much.

01:08:31.000 And I just, when I get to heaven, God willing, I'm going to ask the Lord why music has been so bastardized and corrupted and used for such.

01:08:42.000 I mean, I think it's because it is so powerful.

01:08:45.000 And the enemy of goodness understands the power of music.

01:08:49.000 So when somebody chooses to use that art form in a powerful way to sing truth, to speak truth, it's incredibly powerful.

01:08:59.000 And I think that's ultimately why some of the memorial people remember it.

01:09:02.000 It was exposing.

01:09:04.000 Millions of people to actual worship and to like prostrated worship.

01:09:10.000 It was amazing.

01:09:10.000 Yeah, that event was incredible.

01:09:12.000 Did you watch it live?

01:09:14.000 Yeah, I did.

01:09:15.000 I mean, being in the room, yeah, and there's some B roll of it.

01:09:19.000 It was profound because, you know, we all go to, not we all, but those of us who go to church on Sundays and we worship, like sometimes your head's in it, sometimes you're not.

01:09:29.000 And in this moment, it was like we were all so gutted and so traumatized by what had just happened.

01:09:34.000 So to be in that room, Like the Lord had our full attention.

01:09:42.000 And it really, truly was a powerful, powerful moment.

01:09:46.000 To see so many prominent people in government and other places get up in the mic and proclaim the gospel was, I never thought I would see.

01:09:52.000 I know.

01:09:53.000 Even like five or six years ago, I never would have thought I'd see something like that.

01:09:56.000 But it was incredible.

01:09:57.000 And you could see that they were moved by the Holy Spirit as well.

01:09:59.000 Like I've told this story before, but JD Vance, I'm backstage, I'm watching his speech because they had it, you know, it's on the teleprompters.

01:10:07.000 And he ad libbed the best line out of his speech, which is, I've talked about Jesus Christ more in the last two weeks than I have in my entire political career, public life.

01:10:15.000 And that wasn't on the script.

01:10:16.000 He just, it came to him and he proclaimed Jesus' name loudly and without shame or embarrassment.

01:10:23.000 And that was powerful.

01:10:24.000 It was powerful for our nation.

01:10:26.000 And one of the reasons I love having you here is because there's been some debate about whether the revival's been blunted or if it's been hijacked.

01:10:33.000 And I say no because I believe what God has unleashed, man cannot stop.

01:10:37.000 And you are living proof of that.

01:10:39.000 And that this song is gaining traction and gaining attention from guys like Tommy Robinson in the UK.

01:10:45.000 And Real America's Voice is now getting behind what you're doing as well.

01:10:48.000 And we want this thing to chart.

01:10:50.000 So if you want to see God's revival continue, if you want to see Charlie's legacy continue to spread and become more and more important, back this song, back Mike Kavanaugh and the truth that he's singing in it.

01:11:03.000 Go to iTunes, pick it up.

01:11:05.000 The Voice of the Age.

01:11:06.000 I love that title, by the way.

01:11:08.000 Thanks, man.

01:11:09.000 It took a while to come up with.

01:11:10.000 It's It's so apropos for Charlie.

01:11:13.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:11:14.000 Final 30 seconds to you, Mike.

01:11:16.000 What do you want people to take away from this and what's your encouragement for them?

01:11:20.000 Yeah, I mean, as much as I want to honor Charlie in the song, I want to honor our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, above all.

01:11:27.000 And so I would just want to say if you don't know the Lord, repent of your sins and believe in Him and you can have eternal salvation because that really is the message.

01:11:38.000 And that is what the truth of everything that Charlie spoke, the truth all pointed to.

01:11:43.000 Going toward that, and that was what I know what he wanted the most, and that's what that's what I want the most as well.

01:11:48.000 Yeah, it's not necessarily popular to say, but it's the most powerful thing you can say repent and be saved, turn to Jesus.

01:11:56.000 Thank you, Mike.

01:11:57.000 Yeah, thank you guys.

01:12:02.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 02, 2026

A Song for Charlie + Trump vs. Bibi

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