The Charlie Kirk Show - A Special Message From Mrs. Erika Kirk

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.

00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.

00:00:14.000 If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable.

00:00:19.000 But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful.

00:00:24.000 College is a scam, everybody.

00:00:26.000 You've got to stop sending your kids to college.

00:00:27.000 You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.

00:00:31.000 Go start a Turning Point USA college chapter.

00:00:33.000 Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter.

00:00:35.000 Go find out how your church can get involved.

00:00:37.000 Sign up and become an activist.

00:00:39.000 I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade.

00:00:41.000 Most important decision I ever made in my life.

00:00:43.000 And I encourage you to do the same.

00:00:45.000 Here I am.

00:00:46.000 Lord, use me.

00:00:48.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:49.000 Here we go.

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00:01:17.000 You guys are welcome to ask anything.

00:01:18.000 Open mic.

00:01:19.000 Disagreement, most welcome.

00:01:20.000 If you disagree, come to the front of the line.

00:01:22.000 If you disagree, come to the front of the line.

00:01:24.000 If you disagree, go to the front of the line.

00:01:25.000 You guys know how it works.

00:01:26.000 You disagree, you can go to the line.

00:01:27.000 We'll have a great conversation here.

00:01:29.000 Who are you?

00:01:30.000 My name is Charlie Kirk, and I love America.

00:01:31.000 Why are you here?

00:01:32.000 Because I love talking with people I disagree with.

00:01:35.000 What have you done for your country?

00:01:36.000 Started an organization that's now in a thousand plus campuses to save the greatest culture and country ever to exist.

00:01:41.000 I loved talking to people I disagree with.

00:01:44.000 When people stop talking, that's when you get violence.

00:01:46.000 That's when civil war happens.

00:01:48.000 It seems to me that nothing will ever be enough for the evil in this world.

00:01:54.000 Our country has become unrecognizable.

00:01:57.000 These people have perverted the truth to the point that they motivated the murder of my husband.

00:02:03.000 They have continuously tried to assassinate the president.

00:02:07.000 And anyone who stands in their way is labeled hateful. 0.92

00:02:11.000 Racist, fascist, and every other trigger word that is grossly dishonest.

00:02:18.000 We want the best for our country.

00:02:21.000 They don't.

00:02:22.000 This is why Charlie started Turning Point USA in the first place.

00:02:25.000 He didn't trust the radicalized liberal teachers.

00:02:28.000 And this past Saturday, it was a school teacher, of all people, a school teacher, that attempted to change our history for the worst with bullets.

00:02:38.000 And everyone is asking why I even went to the White House Correspondence Center.

00:02:43.000 And it was because many of the journalists in that room have attempted to dehumanize me.

00:02:49.000 And I wanted to meet some of them face to face, quite frankly.

00:02:53.000 Why have a conversation about me when you can have a conversation with me?

00:02:58.000 So, for example, a journalist from the Daily Mail came up to me.

00:03:03.000 She introduced herself and she was saying, she was very gracious.

00:03:06.000 She was saying, You look so beautiful.

00:03:08.000 I'm so sorry for your loss.

00:03:12.000 To which I replied, It is so nice.

00:03:16.000 To put a name to the face, especially with all of the slander, the lies, accusations that are out there surrounding my husband's murder and myself.

00:03:26.000 And I said to her, You know what's so interesting?

00:03:30.000 This is my first time at the White House Correspondence Dinner.

00:03:34.000 And I find it so fascinating the dynamic that is going on right now because everyone is all dressed up and you guys are co mingling in and out of each other's cocktail parties.

00:03:46.000 And so for one night, You are able to put aside all of your differences for the sake of freedom of speech.

00:03:54.000 And then by Monday morning, things will go back to being an absolute bloodbath between all of you.

00:03:59.000 To which she replied, literally, she said, I know, isn't it special, right?

00:04:05.000 Isn't tonight so special?

00:04:10.000 And following that conversation, it was time to take our seats and we went into the big ballroom where the dinner was.

00:04:16.000 And one of the first things I noticed when I walked into that room was quite literally the proximity of the opposing outlets to one another.

00:04:24.000 So you have one table here that's Politico and another table here that's Fox and another table here that's WAPO, and you're all crammed together, elbow to elbow.

00:04:33.000 And to make the night even more of a spectacle, every single 10 person table had 10 bottles of wine.

00:04:40.000 And the president of the White House Correspondents Association did a great job of trying to make the evening have that feeling of Americana.

00:04:49.000 You know, we were in a room celebrating freedom of speech despite our differences.

00:04:54.000 And the U.S. Marine Band performed the national anthem so beautifully.

00:04:59.000 And then shortly thereafter, gunshots rang out and total chaos ensued.

00:05:05.000 And you guys have all.

00:05:08.000 Seeing what happened next because there are a thousand videos of it.

00:05:13.000 So let's discuss that fact for a second.

00:05:17.000 If you were in that room, you had no way of knowing what the status of the shooter was, how many there were, or honestly, really anything.

00:05:26.000 It was just utter chaos.

00:05:28.000 And so during an active shooting, these journalists are using their phones to find moments to capture for clips.

00:05:34.000 They were so concerned about getting a video in a room with an active shooter.

00:05:39.000 That they could have accidentally and quite literally filmed themselves being shot.

00:05:46.000 Many of those people have become so desensitized that fight or flight became secondary to the opportunity of putting themselves into the story, which ironically breaks the number one rule of journalism.

00:06:00.000 And again, ironically enough, the shooter was a teacher.

00:06:05.000 You have these people who are supposed to be teaching our children the future of this country.

00:06:11.000 And he's so unhinged that he is able to teach children by day and then attempt to murder the president of the United States by night.

00:06:23.000 And in his manifesto, he starts by contextualizing himself by saying, I am a citizen of the United States of America.

00:06:32.000 And while we may have big problems with illegal immigration in this country, I have to tell you, we have an even bigger problem when it comes to the systemic indoctrination and radicalization of our own citizens.

00:06:46.000 This is what got my husband killed.

00:06:50.000 This is what has led to three legitimate attempts on President Trump's life.

00:06:58.000 And I can speak firsthand to that unbearable toll that this must take on our First Lady.

00:07:05.000 There has never been a president who has faced this many assassination attempts in Americans' entire history.

00:07:13.000 And after each one, the reaction from the far left has been, at best, a shrug.

00:07:19.000 And in some cases, a sick disappointment that the shooter was unsuccessful.

00:07:25.000 We are all human beings.

00:07:28.000 And if you can just pause and just take a minute and ask yourself how would you feel if even just one person made cruel jokes about the attempted murder of your loved one? 0.82

00:07:47.000 That is what Jimmy Kimmel did to the First Lady.

00:07:50.000 He said that she had the glow of an expected widow. 0.99

00:07:59.000 The glow of an expected widow.

00:08:02.000 Just 48 hours before that nightmare almost became a reality.

00:08:08.000 And this culture we're living in absorbs disagreement as a form of personal betrayal.

00:08:15.000 It turns having an opposing viewpoint into a moral crime worthy of punishment.

00:08:21.000 And here's what I've realized through all of this.

00:08:24.000 Truly, having lived through quite literal hell these past seven months, if you strip someone of their humanity long enough, you will arrive at the chilling conclusion that they don't deserve to exist at all.

00:08:41.000 Every morning I wake up to a new headline lying about me.

00:08:47.000 I have comedians dressing up in whiteface, I have people saying I'm not fit to be CEO.

00:08:56.000 And I have Candace Owens claiming I murdered my husband.

00:08:59.000 And the list goes on and on and on.

00:09:09.000 There is a serious epidemic of dehumanization plaguing this country.

00:09:15.000 The most unthinkable tragedies have now become commonplace in our daily headlines, and yet the media finds a way to conveniently explain away violence.

00:09:27.000 This is what we're up against.

00:09:30.000 This is what we're up against.

00:09:33.000 What is happening right now is something none of us can afford to ignore.

00:09:36.000 The evil forces working to divide us, to distract us, and to pull us apart has never been stronger.

00:09:43.000 This is a moment for Americans to come together and decide what kind of country we are going to be before we lose our country altogether.

00:09:52.000 In Romans 12, verse 21, it says, Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

00:09:58.000 And this is why my husband created Turning Point USA, so we could have civil discourse and debate and open dialogue.

00:10:06.000 Because when we stop talking to each other, bad things happen.

00:10:11.000 I am choosing to fight for America, for my children, for your children, and for our humanity.

00:10:16.000 Because we all need to do our part.

00:10:19.000 And by the grace of God, we will succeed, and America will remain what she was always called to be a shining city on a hill, a light to the world.

00:10:30.000 So, let me give you a perfect example.

00:10:32.000 Of how it's done.

00:10:34.000 My husband did it best and left us the blueprint on how to have uncomfortable conversations with those who disagree. 1.00

00:10:42.000 Fuck a lot, everybody. 1.00

00:10:43.000 Here we go. 1.00

00:10:44.000 So, my stance today is on immigration.

00:10:47.000 I think that immigration contributes a lot to America.

00:10:50.000 So, my parents did come here legally and they right now are in the process again, and it takes a long time.

00:10:56.000 No, they came here legally, like they came with their visa and now they're renewing it, and it's a different process right now.

00:11:01.000 But, so I'm really religious, I'm Catholic, my parents grew me up that way.

00:11:06.000 And in Matthew 2, 13 through 15, it talks about how Jesus had to flee Bethlehem.

00:11:12.000 He had to flee because someone was going to die.

00:11:14.000 And they were looking to kill him.

00:11:16.000 And he had to flee his own country and leave everything behind because an angel spoke to Mary and Joseph that they should leave.

00:11:22.000 So a lot of people do that. 0.72

00:11:25.000 That's why they immigrate to the United States.

00:11:27.000 A lot of people have to leave everything behind because not everyone just wants to pack up all the things and leave. 0.99

00:11:32.000 Right now, I personally would hate if I had to sell my car, my house, leave my parents, leave my friends, and leave everyone.

00:11:38.000 So, I just want to know what your stance is on that, just because in the Bible it talks about that.

00:11:43.000 Right.

00:11:43.000 So, first of all, Jesus actually didn't emigrate.

00:11:45.000 He stayed within the confines of the Roman Empire because Egypt was actually under Roman jurisdiction.

00:11:51.000 That's a separate point.

00:11:52.000 But there are plenty of verses that say you should welcome the stranger, and so I will grant you that.

00:11:57.000 I guess the first point I would have to ask is should immigration always benefit the home country?

00:12:03.000 I think so, yes.

00:12:04.000 And that is one thing that I looked into.

00:12:06.000 So, there are immigrants right now working here, correct?

00:12:09.000 And they get some of their paycheck cut off, right, because of Social Security and all those benefits. 1.00

00:12:14.000 But they don't get those benefits because they're illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:12:16.000 So, do you mean legal or illegal immigrants? 0.93

00:12:18.000 That distinction is very important. 0.99

00:12:20.000 Illegal.

00:12:20.000 They don't get those benefits.

00:12:22.000 So, let's just be clear.

00:12:23.000 If they have a social security number, how'd they get that?

00:12:26.000 The right way.

00:12:27.000 They stole it.

00:12:29.000 You don't get a social security number as an illegal, period.

00:12:32.000 It does not happen.

00:12:33.000 They stole it.

00:12:34.000 So, that's an act of theft.

00:12:37.000 So, they stole an American social security number to be able to work here, which drives down wages, which drives down opportunity costs.

00:12:44.000 But even beyond that, we just have to look at their action. 0.91

00:12:47.000 They were not invited to come to this country.

00:12:49.000 They broke in line, they cut in line.

00:12:51.000 And we should not reward line cutters or border jumpers.

00:12:55.000 We should reward people like your parents that actually came here legally to this country.

00:13:03.000 Yeah, I understand that point.

00:13:04.000 I really do.

00:13:05.000 But sometimes people generally need to leave their country.

00:13:08.000 Because in my mother's case, for instance, there was a terrorist attack on my family. 0.95

00:13:13.000 And that's the reason my mom had to come.

00:13:15.000 And thankfully, she did get it immediately.

00:13:17.000 But now I've heard of so many stories where people have to wait like 10 years, 20 years, even 30 years.

00:13:22.000 Like my grandma right now is trying to get the process, and thankfully she is now.

00:13:25.000 But it's taken her about 10 years now, and she makes enough money in her country, and she just wants to come here as a tourist.

00:13:31.000 That's the main reason.

00:13:32.000 And I do understand that.

00:13:35.000 I think that my main point is that how we should implement more money into the immigration system.

00:13:38.000 Because Trump's zero tolerance policy just felt cruel, because there's a lot of people here that are doing well, and zero tolerance, they just have to leave the country.

00:13:48.000 I feel like that was infamous of him.

00:13:50.000 Yeah, but it's not their country, though. 0.60

00:13:52.000 So let me just.

00:13:54.000 If I went to Mexico without being invited or allowed, and I took a job, and the Mexican government found out, what would the Mexican government do to me?

00:14:05.000 I'm not sure.

00:14:06.000 They would send me back to America.

00:14:08.000 And why was the reason you left the U.S. first?

00:14:11.000 So, reason that's an interesting thing.

00:14:13.000 Is there ever a legitimate reason, in your opinion, to commit a crime?

00:14:18.000 No.

00:14:19.000 Well, then the reason doesn't matter.

00:14:21.000 Because under that state, so let's look.

00:14:23.000 Can you rob a bank because you wish you had more money?

00:14:25.000 No, you work harder. 0.89

00:14:27.000 Then why doesn't that moral standard apply to immigration?

00:14:30.000 Because the system isn't doing its job.

00:14:33.000 That's why I think we should implement more money.

00:14:35.000 Because there is some people, like I do get it, you know, some people come here and then I do admit some of them commit crime, but not all of them.

00:14:41.000 No, no, but they're all criminals if they came illegally.

00:14:44.000 That's the distinction.

00:14:45.000 By definition, they're breaking federal law 8 USC 1312.

00:14:49.000 Just their presence here is against the law. 1.00

00:14:52.000 Would you be okay welcoming in 500 million people into America? 0.99

00:14:55.000 That's why we should implement the system to understand each individual case.

00:14:57.000 No, no, you've got to ask.

00:14:58.000 Do you think 500 million people would be too many people?

00:15:01.000 500 million, I don't even think that would fit the United States.

00:15:04.000 I agree. 0.98

00:15:04.000 And that's the point if everyone all of a sudden declared that their life was in danger, we'd have to let in like all of Nicaragua, all of Honduras, almost all of Venezuela. 0.98

00:15:14.000 The standard all of a sudden starts falling apart.

00:15:16.000 And we find that people lie about this, they deceive it.

00:15:19.000 Here's my perspective.

00:15:21.000 Why don't we try to empower those people to make the countries they're coming from greater and stronger, else this Problem will actually never be fixed at the root level.

00:15:29.000 Does that make sense?

00:15:31.000 It does make sense, and I wish it was that easy.

00:15:34.000 So, for instance, I am part Peruvian, and in Peru, so they were having a presidential election.

00:15:40.000 And the president who was going to win was better for the country and would help out a lot more.

00:15:45.000 But since it's corrupt, they made the other president win.

00:15:48.000 They sent him death threats, nearly almost killed him.

00:15:51.000 He had to fake his death and leave, and they jailed her.

00:15:54.000 They jailed her completely, and they let the guy win. 0.84

00:15:57.000 That is why it's corrupt.

00:15:58.000 It's hard to fix a country when there's no help towards it.

00:16:01.000 So, Peru was, they were rooting for the good president.

00:16:04.000 They were rooting to build their system back up.

00:16:06.000 But the other president.

00:16:08.000 It was rigged.

00:16:09.000 It was completely rigged.

00:16:10.000 So, does it make it better or worse if millions of people leave that country?

00:16:14.000 For Peru?

00:16:17.000 Can you, like, what do you mean by that?

00:16:18.000 If three million people left Peru, does Peru get greater or weaker?

00:16:22.000 Stronger or weaker?

00:16:26.000 Neither.

00:16:27.000 I mean, it's in a weak state right now.

00:16:29.000 I mean, it's pretty obvious. 1.00

00:16:30.000 I'm trying to even say that mass immigration is bad for everybody. 1.00

00:16:34.000 It's bad for America and it's bad for the country that people are leaving from. 0.98

00:16:37.000 The only difference is that they send back American money through remittances. 0.87

00:16:41.000 That actually subsidized this entire thing.

00:16:43.000 Let me ask one final question.

00:16:44.000 If somebody comes into America without invitation and they are illegal, what do you think the penalty should be?

00:16:52.000 I think it's humane to look at their case and why they had to leave everything they've ever known. 1.00

00:16:57.000 We believe that we should send them back to their country of origin. 1.00

00:17:04.000 I just want to make one more final point. 0.99

00:17:06.000 So I do understand that, but my final point is that do you agree that we should implement more money to the immigration system? 1.00

00:17:12.000 I think we should have no immigrants in the country for the next 10 years. 1.00

00:17:15.000 We have way too many people in this country. 1.00

00:17:17.000 And I'll prove it to you here in California.

00:17:19.000 Your hospitals are overrun.

00:17:21.000 Your schools are overrun.

00:17:22.000 Do you guys agree that you have a crowded state right now?

00:17:27.000 We are a.

00:17:28.000 California is a cluttered state with social services that are being strained. 1.00

00:17:34.000 And we need a pause on all immigration, in my opinion, to metaphorically digest the major meal that we just ate, or else we are going to have a. 1.00

00:17:45.000 Major, major assimilation problem, cultural problem, cohesion problem, all sorts of issues. 0.91

00:17:51.000 And I know this is a provocative thing to say, but immigration is something that you use as a way to benefit the homeland.

00:17:57.000 You don't have to have immigration.

00:18:00.000 But just as an example, my parents came here, like I said, legally zero dollars, and they have benefited so much of the country.

00:18:06.000 They have made so much, like hundreds and thousands of dollars.

00:18:09.000 Praise God, that's the American dream.

00:18:11.000 It is, and it's just like a hard thing to do.

00:18:12.000 And I want American born young people from UC Riverside to also have that American dream.

00:18:18.000 And not have to compete against foreigners for that.

00:18:21.000 Thank you for your time.

00:18:21.000 Can I say one point?

00:18:23.000 We have a long line.

00:18:23.000 Thank you.

00:18:24.000 Really quick, though.

00:18:25.000 Okay, again, what is it?

00:18:26.000 Sorry, okay.

00:18:27.000 I understand the American dream is hard.

00:18:29.000 My parents, my mom was pregnant, working two jobs one day, and she sacrificed everything, and now she has more money than the average American.

00:18:36.000 Praise God.

00:18:37.000 That is the American dream.

00:18:38.000 Thank you very much.

00:18:39.000 It's hard work.

00:18:40.000 Thank you.

00:18:40.000 I want to talk about the debate of abortion.

00:18:43.000 So I know that it's something very controversial.

00:18:47.000 Some people are pro choice, some people are pro life.

00:18:50.000 Before I start, I want to make sure that I understand your opinion fully so I don't take what I've heard online.

00:18:56.000 What is your stance on abortion?

00:18:58.000 Life begins at conception. 0.53

00:19:00.000 Okay.

00:19:00.000 So, where do you.

00:19:02.000 So, conception, so is that when sperm enters the egg?

00:19:04.000 Is that during.

00:19:05.000 When new DNA is formed.

00:19:07.000 Okay, when new DNA is formed.

00:19:09.000 So, the egg by itself, you don't think is anything?

00:19:12.000 Sorry? 1.00

00:19:13.000 The egg of a woman by itself, do you think it's anything? 1.00

00:19:15.000 Well, it's something, but it's not a life, correct. 0.99

00:19:17.000 Okay.

00:19:18.000 So, my question is when you talk about abortion and why you think you support it, Why you don't support it, sorry.

00:19:26.000 Why you don't support it, what do you use as your evidence?

00:19:29.000 Do you use scientific evidence?

00:19:30.000 Do you talk about the Bible?

00:19:31.000 Do you use both?

00:19:32.000 Mainly scientific and self evident reason.

00:19:35.000 Okay.

00:19:36.000 So, are you someone who's a follower of the Bible?

00:19:39.000 I am, but that's not relevant to this discussion.

00:19:41.000 But we could talk about it if you'd like.

00:19:42.000 I find it relevant because when I'm going to talk about abortion, there's quotes in the Bible that I think support pro choice, in my opinion.

00:19:54.000 Bible, Exodus, Exodus 21 22 through 25, when men strive together and hit a pregnant woman so that her child comes out. 0.77

00:20:07.000 So, miscarriage.

00:20:08.000 But there is no harm to the woman.

00:20:09.000 The one who hit her shall surely be fined, as the woman's husband shall impose on him, and he shall pay as the judges determine.

00:20:16.000 But if there is harm to the woman, you shall pay life for life, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

00:20:24.000 So, I know that that can be interpreted different ways.

00:20:26.000 The Bible is interpreted many ways, different.

00:20:28.000 There's different types, different interpretations.

00:20:31.000 But this says if a person causes a miscarriage through a woman, that they will pay.

00:20:39.000 For the abortion.

00:20:40.000 So they will pay, another one will punish them. 0.97

00:20:44.000 That is not what this law says, but let me just ask are you a Christian? 0.59

00:20:47.000 Yes.

00:20:48.000 Okay, then continue.

00:20:49.000 So, do you believe in the inerrant word of God?

00:20:53.000 Yes.

00:20:53.000 Okay, good.

00:20:54.000 Yes.

00:20:55.000 So, it says that as the woman's husband shall impose on him, and he shall pay as the judges determine.

00:21:02.000 So, the judges determine, and it's talking about the husband, so therefore it's talking about a person, not God himself, not his judgment. 0.56

00:21:09.000 So, it's saying.

00:21:10.000 If someone has an abortion, we have the right to choose what to do to them.

00:21:13.000 But didn't you say it was a miscarriage, not an abortion?

00:21:16.000 It says when men strive together and hit a pregnant woman, so that's causing her to lose the baby.

00:21:22.000 That's outside cause.

00:21:24.000 Outside cause.

00:21:25.000 Therefore, it could mean abortion because some people find that abortive abortion is through violence, such as hitting, because not everyone has access to medical abortion.

00:21:35.000 Was it the intent for them to kill the baby?

00:21:37.000 It's unclarified, so that I cannot tell you.

00:21:41.000 It's unclarified.

00:21:42.000 However, what I will say is that it says that it's the judges determine, the husband determines.

00:21:49.000 So, God's not making the choice for us what to do with a person who does that to someone's child, does that to their own child.

00:21:57.000 But it does say that if the woman is harmed, her or herself, not the child, then they are liable by God, their life for her life, their foot for her foot.

00:22:07.000 So, what I'm saying is if somebody needs an abortion for health care, let's say a woman. 0.97

00:22:13.000 Baby's not going to make it. 0.99

00:22:14.000 And if the baby stays in her womb, she will die. 1.00

00:22:17.000 And they refuse her an abortion. 0.97

00:22:19.000 They refuse her that health care and she dies. 0.84

00:22:21.000 Should the doctor be liable under God?

00:22:25.000 First of all, those instances don't happen.

00:22:28.000 So let's just be clear.

00:22:29.000 No, they do.

00:22:29.000 No, see, you guys are so propagandized by this.

00:22:31.000 That only happens in a very rare case of the breaking of the uterine wall.

00:22:34.000 So it does happen.

00:22:35.000 But no, but where the baby is already dead.

00:22:37.000 And that's where the point is that the baby is already dead.

00:22:39.000 That's a removal of a carcass of a baby.

00:22:41.000 So it's obviously still medically removed.

00:22:42.000 No, it's not.

00:22:43.000 That's incorrect.

00:22:44.000 No, it's not.

00:22:45.000 No, it's not.

00:22:46.000 A removal of a carcass of a baby is not an abortion.

00:22:49.000 Those are two technically different things.

00:22:51.000 It is not a DE.

00:22:52.000 It is not.

00:22:52.000 A DE is something completely different.

00:22:54.000 But then, if you want to talk about Scripture, do you think we are bound to all 613 Levitical laws?

00:23:03.000 Yes.

00:23:03.000 If you're a follower of the Bible, you cannot pick and choose what you follow.

00:23:06.000 Oh, so you eat kosher?

00:23:08.000 You cannot pick and choose.

00:23:09.000 Do you eat kosher?

00:23:10.000 No. 1.00

00:23:10.000 Well, I thought you were bound to all 613 laws. 1.00

00:23:13.000 I'm not perfect.

00:23:14.000 I'm a sinner.

00:23:15.000 Everyone here is a sinner, but if you choose.

00:23:16.000 Well, are we bound to it? 1.00

00:23:17.000 Do you think Christians should eat kosher?

00:23:20.000 To follow the Bible, you cannot pick and choose what you follow.

00:23:23.000 Of course, but we do believe in a new covenant and old covenant.

00:23:25.000 So there's three types of Old Testament laws, right?

00:23:28.000 They're ceremonial, they're civil, and moral.

00:23:30.000 So, ceremonial laws we do not honor, civil we consider, moral we absolutely do.

00:23:35.000 Why do humans decide what to follow when God's word is not God's word?

00:23:39.000 It's not us, it's not humans.

00:23:40.000 So, Paul actually authored in the book of Colossians.

00:23:43.000 That's a human.

00:23:44.000 Right, inspired by the Holy Spirit, which wrote the Bible.

00:23:47.000 The ordinances of Moses are nailed to the cross.

00:23:51.000 Secondly, Christ our Lord repeated nine out of ten of the Ten Commandments.

00:23:56.000 And he said, All the laws of the prophet hang upon the two teachings of Leviticus 19 and Deuteronomy 6.

00:24:02.000 But now I equally have to challenge you with Scripture.

00:24:05.000 In Luke 1, when Elizabeth came in contact with Mary and both were babies, what did it say that John the Baptist did?

00:24:16.000 I cannot tell you that.

00:24:17.000 He leapt.

00:24:19.000 Okay. 1.00

00:24:20.000 Do non babies leap? 0.99

00:24:25.000 I don't understand the question. 1.00

00:24:26.000 I'm going to be honest.

00:24:28.000 Isn't it a baby then worthy of protection if they're leaping?

00:24:32.000 I suppose.

00:24:34.000 Yes.

00:24:34.000 And it was the Greek word brephos, which literally means baby.

00:24:38.000 Intentionally used throughout.

00:24:39.000 In Jeremiah, it says, I knew you before you were in the womb.

00:24:39.000 Hold on.

00:24:42.000 In Psalm, I think, 139, it's one of the most intricate verses about the detail of our formation process as human beings.

00:24:49.000 And finally, because of science, because of biology, we know that human life begins at that spark of new DNA.

00:24:56.000 And God says, do not murder.

00:24:58.000 And it's incumbent on Christians to therefore protect that life.

00:25:01.000 Okay. 0.80

00:25:01.000 So, my biggest question is I'm not saying that all abortion is valid. 0.80

00:25:07.000 I feel like that's up for everyone to decide.

00:25:09.000 But in the most, even if it's a very small percentage, in the very small percentage that a baby is alive, but it has to be aborted for the sake of the mother, what do you think is the best thing? 0.59

00:25:19.000 C section. 0.96

00:25:20.000 What is a C section? 1.00

00:25:22.000 A C section is when you cut a mother's throat. 1.00

00:25:24.000 Why don't they do that instead of the abortion? 1.00

00:25:26.000 Because it could be equally as dangerous.

00:25:28.000 Wrong.

00:25:28.000 It's much safer than an abortion and quicker.

00:25:30.000 Do you have evidence?

00:25:31.000 I mean, yes, it's self evident.

00:25:34.000 Can you tell me?

00:25:35.000 I mean, again, there's plenty of people.

00:25:38.000 He has plenty of people that are in medicine can tell you, but like, to be very clear, think about it.

00:25:43.000 Every hospital is equipped to do c-sections.

00:25:46.000 You have to go to a specific place for an abortion.

00:25:48.000 And a c-section, one-third out of everyone in this audience was born by c-section.

00:25:53.000 C-sections save lives, they do not terminate lives.

00:25:56.000 And so when they say we must abort the baby, thanks to modern technology, that's actually a false choice.

00:26:01.000 You could take the baby out of the environment and try to save its life as a cesarean section.

00:26:06.000 What if when the c-section happens, the baby's not able to survive on its own no matter what?

00:26:10.000 Okay, well, then that's a separate circumstance.

00:26:11.000 It's like saying if the baby has a heart attack after the c-section, that's not a reason not to terminate it.

00:26:17.000 What do you mean?

00:26:19.000 You have to give everybody a chance at life.

00:26:22.000 You don't kill the baby in the womb just because you think that it's going to, well, it could hurt the mother.

00:26:27.000 You take it out of that environment.

00:26:29.000 Okay.

00:26:30.000 But what I'm saying is if they take the baby out and they know it's not going to survive regardless.

00:26:35.000 How do they know that post 22 weeks?

00:26:37.000 You don't know that.

00:26:39.000 There's miracles that happen every day in the neonatal intensive care unit.

00:26:44.000 There's miracles that happen every day in NICUs.

00:26:47.000 There's definitely, they don't know 100%.

00:26:47.000 And I agree.

00:26:49.000 For sure, but there's definitely probability through science, through biology, that they know, hey, this is more likely going to happen.

00:26:55.000 We don't do morals on probability.

00:26:59.000 I'm not saying it's morality.

00:27:01.000 I'm saying probability of a baby is going to survive or not.

00:27:03.000 Doesn't matter.

00:27:04.000 You don't terminate a life based on a probability of survival.

00:27:08.000 Oh, you do?

00:27:10.000 Interesting. 0.94

00:27:11.000 You guys murder people based on probability of survival? 0.92

00:27:15.000 Interesting. 0.97

00:27:16.000 So somebody on a ventilator should just be murdered?

00:27:19.000 I mean, it's such incredible morality.

00:27:20.000 Would you keep someone on a ventilator for the entire night?

00:27:23.000 Everything else, then?

00:27:24.000 It depends.

00:27:25.000 There's two different things.

00:27:26.000 There's no more and not yet.

00:27:27.000 Once you reach the level of no more human interventions can improve this person's life or bring them back to a full life, that is a separate moral decision than not yet.

00:27:37.000 When a human being is at not yet, which they are in the womb, you must do everything you can to make sure they get life.

00:27:42.000 When a human being is at no more, it's a completely separate moral dimension and decision to make.

00:27:47.000 No more and not yet are the ways to look at pro life decisions.

00:27:49.000 Does that make sense?

00:27:50.000 Yes, that makes sense.

00:27:51.000 Well, thank you for debating with me.

00:27:52.000 Thank you very much.

00:27:53.000 I don't agree to disagree.

00:27:54.000 I have a friend named Thomas Sheedy, he is the founder of a Organization called Atheist for Liberty.

00:28:00.000 He is openly conservative, but he's mostly interested in atheist activism and normalizing atheism in all sects, including the conservative movement.

00:28:09.000 He seems to be under the impression that a lot of conservatives, including you, are more hesitant to work with atheist organizations.

00:28:15.000 Is there any truth to that?

00:28:17.000 Yes and no.

00:28:18.000 I mean, if you're an atheist and you want to be part of the conservative movement, go ahead, but you must be an honest atheist and acknowledge that morality is definitionally subjective without a belief in God.

00:28:29.000 That you cannot be an atheist and believe in objective morality, it is an impossibility.

00:28:33.000 And true atheists will acknowledge this at some point.

00:28:36.000 You have an ought claim. 0.97

00:28:38.000 Well, things ought to be a certain way.

00:28:40.000 We, as Christians, or we that believe in the divine, we have is claims that murder is wrong.

00:28:46.000 Whereas an atheist will say, Well, murder ought to be wrong because you can't have an objective definition if there is not a divine eternal power over you.

00:28:54.000 So, look, if an atheist wants to fight alongside of us to end abortion or to try and end the massacring of our kids.

00:29:01.000 That's called gender affirming care.

00:29:03.000 If an atheist wants to march alongside of us to say no men and female sports, they're more than welcome to be able to do that.

00:29:09.000 But atheist for liberty is an interesting phrase because I don't believe you can have liberty without God because liberty is not man's idea, it is God's idea. 0.66

00:29:18.000 That's just my own personal belief, and it's also the belief of everything that built this nation.

00:29:22.000 But yes, I know a lot of good atheists.

00:29:25.000 The question, though, is how do you know they're good?

00:29:27.000 It's because you're appealing to a moral authority above just the secular material realm, one that is transcendent, we would believe, given by God.

00:29:38.000 Well, I don't believe in objective morality.

00:29:40.000 I do know there are plenty of atheists who are moral objectivists.

00:29:43.000 Are you an atheist? 0.53

00:29:43.000 Sorry to interrupt. 0.53

00:29:44.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:29:45.000 Okay, cool.

00:29:45.000 So let me just, can I ask you a question?

00:29:47.000 And I don't mean, I know this is your first time at the mic, so I'm just going to try to be tender in doing this.

00:29:51.000 Okay, I appreciate that.

00:29:52.000 So you don't believe in objective morality, right?

00:29:54.000 I personally don't.

00:29:55.000 Okay. 0.97

00:29:55.000 Was the Holocaust objectively wrong? 0.97

00:29:58.000 Objectively, no, but it would have been better if it didn't happen because most people wouldn't want that to happen. 0.88

00:30:03.000 So that's where we are on different planets.

00:30:08.000 And that's okay.

00:30:08.000 I'm not trying to make fun of you.

00:30:09.000 I'm trying to be graceful in the way that we're going about this.

00:30:12.000 Do you think Hitler was objectively evil?

00:30:16.000 No, because it's subjective.

00:30:18.000 But I just hope all of you guys understand he's being an honest atheist to your credit because as an atheist, you're not allowed to say anything is objectively right or wrong.

00:30:27.000 I come from a worldview that when you butcher six million people, that is objectively wrong no matter what.

00:30:35.000 And it's a very important truth claim because when you do not have objective truth anchoring your society, Then it becomes a power struggle.

00:30:43.000 If you do not have truth, then power will reign.

00:30:46.000 Whoever can get the most amount of power then ends up having the most amount of say over society.

00:30:52.000 We believe what is objectively right, true, good, and beautiful should be transcended over society.

00:30:57.000 Your thoughts?

00:30:58.000 So, do you believe objective morality specifically comes from the Bible?

00:31:01.000 Yes, and no.

00:31:03.000 It's in nature, and the Bible explains nature.

00:31:05.000 So, objective morality can be discovered in many different cultures and societies, pointing towards what we believe is the ultimate objective truth Jesus Christ.

00:31:13.000 C.S. Lewis explained this the best in his book, Abolition of Man, which is that almost every religion talks about a certain way to live, a Tao or a path that we should be on.

00:31:24.000 And so, more simply than just the Bible, we believe in what the founders believed, which is an ethical monotheism that there is one God, he has a general way that he wants you to live.

00:31:36.000 For example, murdering is bad, kidnapping is wrong, defense of the innocent, and we should do our best to try to live alongside of that path.

00:31:45.000 Okay, well, I think those are very interesting examples. 0.90

00:31:47.000 You bring up the founders, you bring up Hitler, but Hitler was a self proclaimed Catholic and he called Nazism a Christian movement. 0.98

00:31:54.000 Yeah, I would be careful saying that. 0.77

00:31:56.000 He was not.

00:31:57.000 That's okay.

00:31:58.000 He called himself a Catholic.

00:31:59.000 He specifically said in 1927, our movement is Christian.

00:32:02.000 They had on the belt buckles God on our side.

00:32:04.000 They had to swear to the Almighty God, atheists were not trusted to be in the SS. 0.92

00:32:10.000 Even if I grant you that, despite the fact that he killed a lot of pastors and priests and. 1.00

00:32:15.000 Of course, you can pervert things in the name of God.

00:32:18.000 No one denounces that.

00:32:20.000 Just as a side note, though, far more people died under the banner of atheism than Christianity in the 20th century.

00:32:26.000 Mao was an atheist.

00:32:27.000 Stalin was an atheist.

00:32:28.000 Pol Pot was an atheist.

00:32:30.000 Believing in no God actually led to the destruction and the murder of well over 100 million people. 0.98

00:32:35.000 And that's fine.

00:32:35.000 So, again, if atheists want to come alongside us as conservatives and fight for what is good, that is great.

00:32:42.000 But I will never acknowledge that atheists can tell me what is objectively good, they can only give me a preference. 0.98

00:32:48.000 They cannot tell me what is right. 1.00

00:32:50.000 And preferences eventually will lead you towards moral and societal decline.

00:32:55.000 Okay, so I think you just listed a bunch of communists, and it's worth acknowledging the vast majority of atheists are not communists, just like the vast majority of Christians are not theocrats who don't support the divine right.

00:33:05.000 It's also worth acknowledging that the founders were actually inspired by Enlightenment values, not by the Bible.

00:33:11.000 America was founded as a second nation.

00:33:13.000 We were the first, quote unquote, godless constitution.

00:33:17.000 Yeah, again, I've done this so many times, so I don't know if we want to waste our time doing this, but 55 out of 50. 1.00

00:33:22.000 56 of the signers of the Declaration were Bible believing church attending Christians.

00:33:26.000 Nine out of 13 of the states at the time of ratification required a declaration of faith in order for you to serve in the states.

00:33:31.000 We were our birth certificate, which is the Mayflower Compact, said explicitly, We are here to spread Christianity throughout the land.

00:33:37.000 It was the first great revival that led to the American Revolution of Jonathan Edwards and Jonathan Mayhew and George Whitefield that preached all across the Eastern seaboard.

00:33:45.000 John Adams famously said, The Constitution is written solely for a moral and religious people, it's wholly inadequate for the people of any other.

00:33:51.000 We were a Christian nation that was able to embrace the idea of a free society.

00:33:55.000 God is mentioned four times in the Declaration of Independence.

00:33:57.000 Not only that, Jesus Christ is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence, where it says we appeal to the divine judge of the universe, which of course is a direct appeal to Jesus in the book of Revelation. 0.95

00:34:06.000 Yes, there were rationalist Enlightenment values that informed some of the founders, but it irrefutably was a Christian nation. 0.78

00:34:12.000 Maryland was Catholic, Pennsylvania was Quaker. 0.69

00:34:15.000 Almost every state had their own specific type of Christian preference.

00:34:20.000 The idea of an atheist or not believing in any God was an idea that was so foreign to the founders, even Thomas Jefferson, the great deist.

00:34:27.000 He revered the Bible, albeit with some significant edits.

00:34:30.000 However, the idea of believing in no cosmological or no axiological or no teleological or no ontological being would be a concept that our founding fathers would not just find foreign, they would find it extraordinarily dangerous.

00:34:43.000 Why?

00:34:44.000 Because the French Revolution was happening simultaneously as the American Revolution, which was explicitly atheist.

00:34:50.000 They actually recreated their own gods and said, We are going to appeal to what?

00:34:55.000 The God of reason. 0.94

00:34:56.000 And this is my final contention is that when I talk to atheists, The French Revolution is a great example. 0.79

00:35:01.000 They literally tried to change the Gregorian calendar to a 10 day week. 0.95

00:35:04.000 They went and imprisoned people of faith.

00:35:06.000 They put priests in jail, all these different sorts of things.

00:35:08.000 They said, We are going to appeal to the God of reason.

00:35:11.000 Well, how did that work out?

00:35:12.000 It worked out with the guillotine and the slaughter of tens of thousands of people.

00:35:15.000 The French Revolution was one of the greatest disasters in human recorded history.

00:35:19.000 Contrast that with the American Revolution. 0.55

00:35:21.000 Why did the American Revolution create the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world?

00:35:25.000 And the French Revolution resulted in a lot of blood and even the killing of their own once leader, Maximilien Robespierre.

00:35:30.000 It's because we were anchored on Christian ideas.

00:35:33.000 If you are not anchored on Christian ideas, then don't be surprised and all of a sudden there is no fruit to the harvest that you're trying to create.

00:35:40.000 I'm an atheist, so I disagree with your religious claims.

00:35:43.000 Do you believe in absolute truth?

00:35:47.000 I'm not sure you can provide me just positive evidence that there is absolute truth.

00:35:50.000 So the answer would be I'm not sure.

00:35:53.000 Are you absolutely not sure?

00:35:54.000 I'm not sure if I'm absolutely not sure.

00:35:56.000 See, this works if you say no, but it doesn't work if you bottom out in the I'm not, I don't know question.

00:36:00.000 Right, no, but saying you're not sure, you are not even sure if you're not sure.

00:36:04.000 So at some point, you just always have to make a truth claim, yeah?

00:36:07.000 No, you can just be not sure about everything all the way down.

00:36:09.000 I don't see why you can't.

00:36:10.000 And my answer would be I think truth is instrumentalist in theory.

00:36:13.000 I think it's a thing we choose pragmatically.

00:36:15.000 For the purposes of discussion, I think you can say, yeah, I think truth exists pragmatically.

00:36:19.000 Regardless of that, I don't see how you get to God.

00:36:21.000 Are you alive?

00:36:22.000 Huh?

00:36:23.000 Are you alive?

00:36:24.000 I think I'm alive, yeah.

00:36:25.000 Think you're alive?

00:36:26.000 Yeah.

00:36:28.000 Is the sun shining?

00:36:30.000 I think it's shining, yeah.

00:36:32.000 From my frame of reference, it is shining.

00:36:35.000 Notice how none of this.

00:36:37.000 I mean, notice how you've gotten no steps closer to proving God.

00:36:41.000 No, I'm asking questions, man.

00:36:43.000 Are you sure we did it?

00:36:45.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

00:36:46.000 Are you sure we did it close to God?

00:36:49.000 I'm sure in the pragmatic and spiritual world.

00:36:50.000 How sure are you that we did it?

00:36:52.000 In the pragmatic instrumentalist sense, absolutely sure.

00:36:54.000 I see truth as a utility.

00:36:55.000 So there is a truth that's absolute?

00:36:57.000 No, it's instrumentally true.

00:36:59.000 But you just said it was absolute.

00:37:00.000 No, absolutely sure in the instrumentalist sense of the word truth.

00:37:03.000 This is a philosophical tradition that dates back hundreds of years, instrumentalism.

00:37:07.000 Yeah, which of course we don't subscribe to.

00:37:09.000 Obviously.

00:37:09.000 So do you believe that murder is objectively wrong?

00:37:13.000 Epistemologically objective or ontologically objective?

00:37:16.000 Morally.

00:37:19.000 See, you didn't answer the question, but either.

00:37:21.000 Both, both, epistemologically and ontologically.

00:37:23.000 But for the purpose of discussion, for the.

00:37:24.000 Okay.

00:37:25.000 So, by what you mean, no, I don't think it's objective. 0.57

00:37:28.000 Was Hitler a bad person objectively?

00:37:31.000 No, if you mean by.

00:37:33.000 By the way, by the way.

00:37:34.000 Dude, dude, dude.

00:37:35.000 Wait, no, but he's being honest.

00:37:39.000 At its core, atheists cannot say that Hitler was bad.

00:37:42.000 Can I make the claim now?

00:37:43.000 Notice who here is relying on feelings and not facts. 0.95

00:37:47.000 Your argument is I feel that Hitler was objective. 0.92

00:37:49.000 No, no, no, I know.

00:37:50.000 No, no, you feel that way.

00:37:51.000 Can you provide me evidence of how you know?

00:37:53.000 Can you provide me evidence that morality is objective?

00:37:55.000 No, of course I can.

00:37:57.000 Because.

00:37:58.000 Well, first of all, morality is both reason and revelation, and it's built within us that murder is wrong.

00:38:03.000 Yeah.

00:38:03.000 Okay, where's your evidence of that?

00:38:04.000 Wait, wait, I'm so sorry.

00:38:06.000 That's a claim, not evidence.

00:38:07.000 That's a claim.

00:38:08.000 Okay, we could spend multiple hours, but in the Western tradition.

00:38:12.000 So notice how you're saying by tradition, by the standards, these are all claims of non truth value.

00:38:18.000 Hold on, yes, they are.

00:38:18.000 We believe that truth was revealed to us.

00:38:21.000 We believe, claim.

00:38:22.000 By God.

00:38:23.000 Hold on, but let me.

00:38:24.000 We can get there.

00:38:25.000 You can keep on interrupting us.

00:38:26.000 Okay, keep on. 0.99

00:38:27.000 But let me prove to you how silly your viewpoint is and how self evidently wrong. 0.99

00:38:31.000 Okay. 0.99

00:38:32.000 Is it objectively wrong to kids?

00:38:35.000 When you say objective, what I mean by objective.

00:38:42.000 Once again, once again.

00:38:51.000 Dude, can I ask you something?

00:38:52.000 No, no, no.

00:38:53.000 Notice how you still haven't given me dispositive evidence that morality is objective.

00:38:56.000 You're merely saying, my answer is, I feel that way.

00:38:59.000 Sure, I feel that way.

00:39:01.000 No, no, that's all I can tell you.

00:39:02.000 It's objectively wrong to the laws of nature.

00:39:04.000 What law of nature?

00:39:06.000 The self evident nature of existence.

00:39:08.000 Where's your proof that it's self evident?

00:39:09.000 Show me the logical proof that it's self evident.

00:39:11.000 Okay, it's in your reason that God gave you and the consciousness of the soul.

00:39:14.000 Prove that God gave it to me.

00:39:15.000 Prove that God gave it to me.

00:39:16.000 Okay, but again, your existence is proof of that.

00:39:20.000 Again, We can get back down to the first principles of this, but again.

00:39:24.000 You can, but you don't want to because you know it doesn't look good.

00:39:26.000 No, it looks actually really good because built within.

00:39:28.000 Well, because you have evidence for it.

00:39:30.000 Built within, again, interrupting does not make you right.

00:39:33.000 Because you keep repeating your point.

00:39:34.000 I get your point.

00:39:35.000 No, I don't.

00:39:35.000 So let me ask you a question in closing.

00:39:37.000 Since you can't objectively say that Hitler was bad or that child is wrong, so how did the universe come into existence? 0.65

00:39:46.000 I don't know.

00:39:47.000 Okay, but science says that it was a big bang or a beginning point, right?

00:39:50.000 Okay.

00:39:51.000 So using logic, which you believe in.

00:39:52.000 This is the Kalam cosmological argument.

00:39:54.000 Well, hold on.

00:39:54.000 Again, you keep interrupting.

00:39:56.000 Using logic, if space, time, and matter had a starting point, then logically, shouldn't something outside of space, time, and matter have started those things?

00:40:06.000 How do you know that cause is personal?

00:40:07.000 How do you know that cause is worth praying to?

00:40:09.000 How do you know that cause is personal?

00:40:10.000 That's not the question.

00:40:10.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:40:11.000 Okay, sure, there is a cause.

00:40:12.000 Oh, that cause is God because it's outside of space, time, and matter.

00:40:15.000 No, no, no, no.

00:40:15.000 By definition.

00:40:16.000 You believe in different things about God.

00:40:17.000 You think that God is personal.

00:40:19.000 That's not what we're debating.

00:40:20.000 No, we are arguing about God.

00:40:22.000 First of all, we're debating is there a reason?

00:40:22.000 We're arguing about God.

00:40:24.000 Hold on, no, no, we're not debating that.

00:40:25.000 We're debating whether or not there's a God or not. 0.88

00:40:27.000 No, the Christian God.

00:40:28.000 I said religion.

00:40:29.000 You're a religious person.

00:40:30.000 You're a Christian in nature.

00:40:31.000 You follow a religious tradition. 0.97

00:40:32.000 Calm down.

00:40:32.000 You said you're an atheist.

00:40:33.000 Wait, no, God, historically, Aquinas even defines it this way, is a personal God.

00:40:37.000 You still haven't gotten to me to prove that it's personal.

00:40:39.000 I'm happy to get to that.

00:40:40.000 Okay, then get to it.

00:40:41.000 Look, here's what I find with atheists they don't want to worship or acknowledge God because many atheists think they are God.

00:40:48.000 And you embody that really well.

00:40:50.000 I didn't know you were a mind reader, Charlie.

00:40:51.000 This is news to me.

00:40:52.000 It's not a mind reader.

00:40:53.000 I can tell by your behavior.

00:40:55.000 I will say this.

00:40:55.000 I hope that you give your life to Jesus Christ.

00:40:58.000 I hope you do.

00:40:58.000 I hope you can find evidence.

00:41:00.000 I hope you can find evidence.

00:41:01.000 You know what's interesting?

00:41:02.000 There is evidence.

00:41:03.000 There is evidence that Jesus.

00:41:04.000 Hold on, last thing.

00:41:05.000 Do you believe Jesus Christ was a real historical figure?

00:41:08.000 Do you believe that the Gospels are historically accurate and we can prove them with archaeological evidence?

00:41:08.000 Yes.

00:41:13.000 Some parts are, some parts are metaphors, some parts are allegories, some parts are literal.

00:41:19.000 It depends.

00:41:19.000 Some parts are attempts at history.

00:41:21.000 It depends which book or gospel.

00:41:23.000 Using rational analysis, why would the disciples lie about the resurrection of Christ?

00:41:28.000 Okay, we can talk about this.

00:41:29.000 People, they can be mistakenly wrong about it.

00:41:32.000 So they would be mistakenly wrong up to the point where they get martyred and then crucified.

00:41:36.000 The whole point of being mistakenly wrong about something is you believe it's true.

00:41:39.000 All the way up until the point of death.

00:41:41.000 The whole point of being mistakenly wrong about something is you believe it's true.

00:41:44.000 I just want to make sure I understand your position.

00:41:45.000 Your position is that the 12 disciples who knew Christ best saw him die and then they all believed a mistaken conspiracy for the rest of their life.

00:41:52.000 Yes.

00:41:53.000 All of them together as a conspiracy.

00:41:55.000 Yes.

00:41:57.000 Yes.

00:41:57.000 There is no first-hound account from the 500.

00:41:59.000 Yes.

00:41:59.000 The Gospels are all written by these people.

00:42:01.000 People have died for crazy claims in the past that we know aren't true.

00:42:04.000 These are all facts about history.

00:42:06.000 That's not correct.

00:42:07.000 Okay, one of the Gospels was written by one of his closest associates, Matthew the tax collector.

00:42:11.000 Luke was a fact fighter that was hired by.

00:42:13.000 No, I didn't say the Gospels weren't written by them.

00:42:15.000 I said there's no evidence from the 500 that he appeared to.

00:42:17.000 There's no first hand accounts.

00:42:18.000 Again, that's not correct.

00:42:19.000 Thank you for your time.

00:42:20.000 We'll get to the next question.

00:42:21.000 Okay, you can not answer it.

00:42:22.000 We will pray for you.

00:42:23.000 Thank you.

00:42:24.000 Be respectful, guys.

00:42:25.000 He can do what he wants.

00:42:28.000 Oh, can I start now?

00:42:30.000 Nice to meet you, Charlie.

00:42:31.000 I'm a big fan.

00:42:33.000 I think you're a very beautiful man.

00:42:34.000 I admire you physically. 1.00

00:42:35.000 No homo, no homo, no homo. 1.00

00:42:41.000 I did have a question. 0.97

00:42:42.000 Something I don't find very interesting about you, something I find kind of repulsive, is that I believe you said that the Civil Rights Act was bad and that we shouldn't have that.

00:42:52.000 Okay.

00:42:53.000 Thank you.

00:42:54.000 I appreciate that.

00:42:55.000 I don't like you as much as Charlie, though.

00:42:56.000 First of all, what's your name?

00:42:58.000 Oh, sorry.

00:42:59.000 I don't want to be filmed and stuff.

00:43:01.000 I'm anonymous, number one.

00:43:03.000 Anonymous guy.

00:43:04.000 Okay.

00:43:05.000 Well, hello.

00:43:06.000 Nice to meet you, Anonymous guy.

00:43:07.000 Thank you.

00:43:08.000 Nice to meet you, too.

00:43:08.000 Yeah.

00:43:09.000 I believe in part of the essence of the Civil Rights Act, it went way too far, way too wide.

00:43:14.000 Oh, how'd it go too far? 0.69

00:43:15.000 Well, for example, it created an entire civil rights leviathan that gave us affirmative action. 0.64

00:43:18.000 Civil rights leviathan? 0.58

00:43:19.000 What do you mean? 0.89

00:43:20.000 Yeah, so if you can let me finish three words in.

00:43:22.000 Sorry. 0.91

00:43:23.000 It allowed the Department of Justice to go after people that have different skin color, aka white people, and prevent them from getting jobs and college admissions. 0.99

00:43:31.000 You have a job.

00:43:32.000 I'm sorry?

00:43:32.000 You have a job.

00:43:33.000 No, you're right.

00:43:34.000 I do.

00:43:35.000 Right.

00:43:35.000 But just until Trump came around, until the Supreme Court decision, thanks to the Civil Rights Act, if you have white skin color, it's much harder to get into a college than if someone has black skin color.

00:43:45.000 Much harder.

00:43:45.000 You have to have higher test scores.

00:43:47.000 It's a much harder pool, largely thanks to the precedent set by the Civil Rights Act. 1.00

00:43:51.000 Not to mention all the trans stuff that we're seeing. 0.99

00:43:54.000 We're seeing men be able to win trophies and medals from women across the country, and they use the Civil Rights Act to justify it. 0.91

00:44:00.000 Okay, I think I see where you're coming from. 0.72

00:44:02.000 So you think that it's harder for white people because black people could have lower tech scores.

00:44:07.000 It's not what I think, it's the facts.

00:44:09.000 That's what you're saying.

00:44:10.000 Okay.

00:44:10.000 Well, I guess what I would say too, I think perhaps you're familiar with the term equity, right?

00:44:15.000 Where different people have different.

00:44:17.000 It's circumstances, it's parties that's in the market.

00:44:19.000 I reject the system.

00:44:21.000 Whether you reject it or not, I think it's a prescient concept in this argument. 1.00

00:44:27.000 Because what you have to understand is that when you're, for example, you're born in a black neighborhood, you're born in Oblock or something, like a very, very. 0.94

00:44:34.000 You don't know what Oblock is? 0.75

00:44:37.000 Oh, well, if you're born there, if you're born in a very poor area like that, with very low economic opportunity, very, very poor schools, very low ratings, with average test scores much lower, when you're in that environment, you have the whole system up against you, right?

00:44:51.000 So, when you say in that kind of circumstance, when you're facing the whole, I guess, leviathan of systemic racism, would you say that?

00:44:57.000 Sorry, let me just finish it.

00:44:59.000 Would you say it's fair to, for example, lower the standard because knowing that their circumstances were like that, perhaps based on what they had, what was presented to them, they had the correct amount of merit to get into a school?

00:45:11.000 Okay, so are you a student here?

00:45:12.000 I'm guessing you are.

00:45:13.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a student here.

00:45:14.000 Are you a pretty good student?

00:45:15.000 Oh, yeah, I would say I'm a good student.

00:45:16.000 I have a pretty high GPA.

00:45:17.000 Okay. 0.62

00:45:17.000 Can you give your GPA to her because she's a woman of color, please? 0.62

00:45:20.000 Oh, I'm going to give you a.

00:45:22.000 I mean, I can.

00:45:22.000 Would you be willing to do that?

00:45:24.000 Sure, yeah, sure.

00:45:25.000 You'd be cool with that?

00:45:26.000 Yeah, I'm fine.

00:45:27.000 Wait, you mean you can go with the tail hair or like you?

00:45:29.000 No, by force.

00:45:30.000 So we're swapping.

00:45:30.000 Let me tell what I'm going to do.

00:45:32.000 By force, white man, I'm going to take your GPA, I'm going to give it to a woman of color. 0.89

00:45:37.000 Okay. 0.86

00:45:37.000 You're cool with that? 0.86

00:45:39.000 I mean, yeah, I can just work back up.

00:45:40.000 No, there's no working back up.

00:45:43.000 I can pull myself up by my bootstraps.

00:45:44.000 No, there's no working back up.

00:45:45.000 What do you mean you can't work back up?

00:45:46.000 That's the whole point of conservatism, isn't it?

00:45:48.000 I'm going to keep on taking it from you because that's equity.

00:45:50.000 And you're cool with that.

00:45:51.000 What?

00:45:52.000 But that's not equity in practice.

00:45:53.000 Equity isn't taking.

00:45:54.000 Equity is applying the equal standard.

00:45:56.000 If you give, how do you get?

00:45:57.000 You must take and then you give.

00:45:58.000 Wait, what do you mean?

00:46:00.000 That which is given must first be taken.

00:46:02.000 What's being taken?

00:46:03.000 Well, in this case, grades from you to grades to her.

00:46:06.000 No one's taking my grades, though.

00:46:07.000 That's not what affirmative action is.

00:46:09.000 Hold on a second.

00:46:10.000 No one takes your grades.

00:46:11.000 Hold on a second.

00:46:12.000 If you only have so many positions at the University of South Florida to come in, right?

00:46:17.000 There's a set number.

00:46:18.000 Let's say it's 20,000 people, okay?

00:46:21.000 And we're going to say we're going to lower the test standards. 1.00

00:46:24.000 So, that somebody that's a woman of color can come in, and therefore it's harder for you. 1.00

00:46:28.000 So, it's a higher bar for you, lower bar for them. 1.00

00:46:31.000 Definitionally, that's a redistribution of test scores to somebody else, just by the definition.

00:46:35.000 And you're okay with that.

00:46:37.000 Well, I guess I would ask then, if we were to do what you're doing, I guess that's what's happening under Trump, right?

00:46:42.000 Well, no, it's actually been happening the last 40 years.

00:46:43.000 Okay, actually, yeah, whatever. 0.96

00:46:45.000 Okay, so when you say that, if you do that, then, well, black people aren't going to get into school, and then they won't be able to uplift themselves. 0.92

00:46:50.000 They won't be able to have prosperous families. 0.81

00:46:52.000 They won't be able to equalize the economic status because you need to give them a little jump start.

00:46:57.000 You know, you have a car, right?

00:46:58.000 How is that?

00:46:59.000 Well, no, now I know who you are.

00:47:00.000 No, It's good.

00:47:02.000 But no, how has that worked the last 40 years?

00:47:03.000 We've had robust affirmative action.

00:47:05.000 Oh, no.

00:47:05.000 We've had hiring practices.

00:47:06.000 Has it made black America more successful? 0.97

00:47:08.000 I can answer that easily.

00:47:10.000 It's because.

00:47:11.000 Oh, sorry.

00:47:12.000 It's because, um, uh, sorry, what am I going for?

00:47:15.000 I don't know.

00:47:18.000 You're a funny guy.

00:47:19.000 Um, so what happened is, even after the Civil Rights Act, you understand, you know what, uh, I believe the term is massive resistance. 0.62

00:47:26.000 It was a movement in, uh, after the Broad versus Board of Education in Virginia, where essentially the legislature, which was still white supremacist, which is still extremely racist, they decided that no, we're going to do everything that feasibly possible within our means to stop black people from going to white schools.

00:47:42.000 You even see this in, uh, Was, I believe it was the Little Rock Nine, right?

00:47:45.000 Even after it was legalized at the state level, white supremacist mobs still mobilized to prevent it.

00:47:51.000 So even if it de facto is gone, de jure, it still exists.

00:47:54.000 Let me ask you a very simple question, a term you keep on throwing around.

00:47:58.000 Got you.

00:47:59.000 What is racism?

00:48:00.000 What is racism?

00:48:02.000 That's a very complicated question.

00:48:04.000 No, it's not.

00:48:05.000 I mean, there's a simple answer and then there's the highly theoretical answer.

00:48:08.000 Give me the simple answer.

00:48:09.000 The simple answer will essentially be because we have different skin colors.

00:48:15.000 That he's treated a different way than me.

00:48:16.000 He has like a different upbringing than me.

00:48:19.000 No, no, no, but what is racism?

00:48:20.000 It's a different, oh, it's discrimination based on the color of the skin.

00:48:24.000 Got it, thank you.

00:48:25.000 So, isn't it racist then to penalize white people to come into college or to get jobs based on the color of their skin?

00:48:31.000 Wouldn't that be racist?

00:48:34.000 So, you're arguing for a very racist policy, which is that we should actively discriminate against people based on the color of their skin, which is affirmative action and DEI in practice.

00:48:42.000 I just don't, I just disagree with the premise that you can do like anti white racism.

00:48:47.000 Because, uh, because.

00:48:48.000 Wait, can you be racist against white people? 0.97

00:48:52.000 No, bro, I'm a cracker, bro. 1.00

00:48:53.000 What the f? 0.99

00:48:53.000 No, you can't be racist towards white people. 0.99

00:48:55.000 Bro, there's so many crackers here, bro. 0.71

00:48:59.000 There's your clip, bro.

00:49:00.000 There's your clip.

00:49:00.000 What are you gonna do?

00:49:07.000 You're gonna do political violence to me, bro?

00:49:09.000 Like, why are you saying that to me?

00:49:11.000 You're making me scared.

00:49:15.000 Okay.

00:49:15.000 So let me tell you what we believe, because you tell us what you believe.

00:49:18.000 Okay.

00:49:18.000 Your worldview is indistinguishable from the KKK.

00:49:22.000 That you want to organize the world based on skin color.

00:49:25.000 We want to organize the world based on merit and character, based on how hard you work, what you bring to the table.

00:49:32.000 I believe it's destructive and wrong to say that people are going to be organized or have their future set based on the color of their skin.

00:49:40.000 I think it's tribalistic, I think it is divisive, and I think it hurts the excellence of a country.

00:49:46.000 You asked a question well, how are we going to help other communities?

00:49:49.000 You know how you help other communities?

00:49:50.000 Stop pandering to them.

00:49:51.000 And start treating them like individuals made in the image of God, not tribes to be organized for political purposes.

00:49:58.000 Okay, so do you think, like, when Trump is now, now he's president, now that racism is gone now, because Trump is back and we're no longer pandering, right? 0.91

00:50:05.000 Do you think that the conditions of black people have, like, do you think Oblock is going to become, like, a much nicer place?

00:50:13.000 Do you think that these very downturned, sort of, black neighborhoods that have been sort of left behind, do you think they're going to become revitalized now? 1.00

00:50:20.000 Is that what you think is going to happen? 1.00

00:50:21.000 Yeah, they'll do better for sure.

00:50:22.000 Do you think they're going to do better?

00:50:24.000 Now that we've stopped helping them, they're going to do better.

00:50:27.000 Well, see, that's an interesting thing.

00:50:28.000 Because it seems like contradictory to me, just on basic logic.

00:50:30.000 Well, actually, black Americans under Donald Trump in the first term saw the greatest economic renaissance that they saw since the 1950s.

00:50:37.000 Highest oil increases, lowest unemployment, revitalization, amazing investment in their communities, opportunity zones. 0.65

00:50:45.000 But that's when we had affirmative action. 0.65

00:50:46.000 So, wouldn't that be bad?

00:50:48.000 Well, again, we actually got rid of affirmative action now.

00:50:49.000 It's no good.

00:50:50.000 It's bad.

00:50:50.000 I'm talking about before.

00:50:51.000 Those are unrelated things, though.

00:50:53.000 They don't seem unrelated to me. 0.94

00:50:55.000 Well, affirmative action is. 0.65

00:50:57.000 They seem unrelated to me.

00:50:58.000 So, I'm sorry.

00:50:59.000 I don't mean to interrupt you.

00:51:00.000 No, you are.

00:51:01.000 That's okay.

00:51:01.000 I'm sorry.

00:51:02.000 Affirmative action is largely federal government hiring practices and the adjacent institutions.

00:51:07.000 I think that all communities will do even better when we stop living under the soft bigotry of low expectations.

00:51:14.000 Inherent in your argument is that we have to pander to certain communities based on the color of their skin because they can't do as well as white people.

00:51:21.000 I reject the premise.

00:51:23.000 I think that we should try to say, I don't care about the color of your skin.

00:51:26.000 I care about what you bring to the table and stop pandering to people based on special criteria, points, and acceptance to college, saying that we're going to make it easier for one group and harder for another group.

00:51:35.000 I don't think it's pending, though.

00:51:36.000 I think it's understanding.

00:51:38.000 Okay, but like, do you think that, do you think that we should have black only dormitories in America? 1.00

00:51:44.000 No, why would I want that? 0.99

00:51:45.000 Okay, well, there's hundreds of schools that have those, actually. 0.65

00:51:48.000 And you say black only, like, they're not, white people are not allowed in. 0.98

00:51:50.000 No, white people are not allowed in. 0.99

00:51:51.000 White people, yeah, that's why I said white people are not allowed in. 1.00

00:51:53.000 Correct. 0.99

00:51:53.000 We have black only graduation ceremonies across the country. 0.99

00:51:56.000 Well, those are from, well, I believe those are most likely like HBCUs, right? 0.99

00:52:01.000 No.

00:52:01.000 Like, the University of Michigan has one, Yale has one, Harvard has one.

00:52:04.000 So we're agreeing that that is wrong.

00:52:06.000 That is the furthest extension of hyper race obsession.

00:52:10.000 So you can choose one or the other.

00:52:11.000 You can be race obsessed or merit obsessed.

00:52:14.000 We as conservatives decide to be merit obsessed, to build a country based on how hard you work and what you're able to deliver.

00:52:22.000 Okay, well, so wait, here, just I wasn't.

00:52:26.000 Final point?

00:52:26.000 Yeah, final point, sure, okay.

00:52:29.000 This thing's a little close.

00:52:30.000 Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend your wonderful setup here.

00:52:34.000 Yeah, so I guess I'll just restate my point that. 0.59

00:52:38.000 I don't believe you mentioned like all black dormitories, right?

00:52:42.000 I mean, I don't really comment on that.

00:52:44.000 I mean, I don't know if that's real.

00:52:45.000 To me, that sounds fake, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here.

00:52:48.000 It's very real.

00:52:49.000 Oh, okay.

00:52:49.000 But I just think it's a very irrelevant kind of like aesthetic focus thing.

00:52:53.000 It doesn't really affect the material conditions of like black people. 0.93

00:52:56.000 If there were white only dormitories, there'd be marching in the streets, right? 0.99

00:52:59.000 Oh, well, because, okay. 0.87

00:53:01.000 What's the difference? 0.64

00:53:02.000 The difference is, like, for example, if you want to go back to segregation, the all white dormitory was nice as s and the all black one was s. 0.61

00:53:07.000 So if that's. 0.78

00:53:09.000 If that was brought back, okay, if we were to do an all white dormitory and all black people. 1.00

00:53:12.000 I'm not recommending it. 0.81

00:53:13.000 I think actually segregation is wrong and evil, and we're heading, until Donald Trump, we were heading in that direction.

00:53:18.000 Until Donald Trump.

00:53:19.000 But like, okay, I'll go back to, because I did let it slip by, but you mentioned that like in the early years of the Donald Trump presidency, right, that the conditions for the employment and stuff were going up for black people.

00:53:30.000 What I would say is the economy works slow, it works at like a time dilation for when the policies initially enacted.

00:53:35.000 So what I would probably assume, based on what you said to me, is that it was the Obama era policies.

00:53:40.000 That actually led to that, not the Trump policies, because stuff like tax cuts to the rich doesn't really help.

00:53:45.000 In a year from now, we're going to have the greatest economy ever.

00:53:47.000 They're going to say it's all Biden.

00:53:49.000 It's all Biden.

00:53:50.000 Well, I mean, I don't think that's going to happen.

00:53:52.000 Personally, I think the economy is going to s with what all Elon Musk is doing.

00:53:55.000 But if that was to happen, I mean, s, I guess my whole worldview, but I'm pretty certain it's not going to happen.

00:54:01.000 What about Elon?

00:54:02.000 What Elon's doing bothers you?

00:54:03.000 Do you not want to see the government efficient?

00:54:06.000 The government is efficient.

00:54:06.000 He's just firing everybody, just like he did to Twitter, bro.

00:54:09.000 Y'all see what happened?

00:54:09.000 The Twitter brats raced us s now.

00:54:11.000 It's just a Nazi haven. 0.75

00:54:12.000 It went from like a pretty accepting place to like where like the average blue check mark is saying Hail Hitler. 0.88

00:54:19.000 Like Elon Musk himself has replied to like, well, he did the Nazi salute.

00:54:23.000 Like, we're not going to forget about that, are we?

00:54:24.000 No, he didn't.

00:54:25.000 What do you mean?

00:54:26.000 Y'all didn't see that clip, bro?

00:54:27.000 Y'all didn't see when he did that?

00:54:29.000 All right.

00:54:30.000 Oh, okay.

00:54:30.000 Thank you.

00:54:30.000 And by the way, I just want to thank you for something.

00:54:32.000 You're welcome.

00:54:33.000 Well, I want to thank you.

00:54:33.000 Do I get a portion of the TikTok revenue you're going to get from this?

00:54:37.000 I want to thank you for something.

00:54:39.000 Oh, yeah.

00:54:39.000 You are a perfect reminder why we won in November.

00:54:43.000 So thank you for that.

00:54:44.000 I really appreciate it.

00:54:45.000 Thank you.

00:54:45.000 So you would say, I'm a misinformation machine.

00:54:47.000 That's fine.

00:54:48.000 Yeah.

00:54:48.000 It's fine.

00:54:49.000 You're a teacher.

00:54:49.000 Yes.

00:54:50.000 What is a woman? 1.00

00:54:51.000 What is a woman? 0.99

00:54:54.000 Oh, buddy. 1.00

00:54:55.000 All right.

00:54:56.000 So we define gender as a set of preferences that you have.

00:55:00.000 Excuse me.

00:55:08.000 Gender is a set of preferences we have. 0.80

00:55:12.000 Woman is a social construct that we've agreed upon.

00:55:15.000 Typically, we imagine womanhood as makeup or whatever.

00:55:23.000 There is a difference between the word woman and being a biological female. 0.99

00:55:29.000 Woman is a social construct that we use. 0.56

00:55:32.000 Listen for a second. 1.00

00:55:34.000 I'm telling you what it means. 1.00

00:55:36.000 Woman is a social construct. 1.00

00:55:38.000 We agree on these set of preferences. 1.00

00:55:40.000 If I tell you that I'm a man, it's because I want you to know that I like these set of preferences.

00:55:45.000 If I tell you I'm a woman, it's because I want you to know that I agree with these set of preferences. 0.85

00:55:49.000 Can men give birth?

00:55:51.000 Can men or can males?

00:55:53.000 Because males can't.

00:55:57.000 Listen for a second.

00:55:59.000 If you listened to your bio professors, you'd understand there's a difference between biology and what we think about.

00:56:04.000 So I want to thank you for proving a great point.

00:56:06.000 You are why we should eliminate the Department of Education.

00:56:09.000 Thank you very much.

00:56:10.000 I love it.

00:56:11.000 You are here making a pro Trump speech for you.

00:56:16.000 This has nothing to do with genders or children.

00:56:18.000 I'll talk about it.

00:56:19.000 You're sitting here telling me how much you love children.

00:56:21.000 Thank you.

00:56:21.000 Have a great day.

00:56:22.000 God bless you.

00:56:24.000 I'll pray for you.

00:56:25.000 Oh, my goodness.

00:56:26.000 That will help a lot.

00:56:28.000 Prayer is a powerful thing.

00:56:29.000 Yes, it is.

00:56:30.000 It has done horrendous things to this planet.

00:56:32.000 Prayer has done horrendous things to this planet.

00:56:34.000 It has.

00:56:35.000 Through Christianity and through a lot of other religions. 0.64

00:56:39.000 Narrow minded religions have caused a lot of.

00:56:42.000 Pain and suffering on this planet.

00:56:43.000 More people have died over the last 100 years under the guise of Marxism and statism than any other ideology, not even close.

00:56:50.000 More people have died.

00:56:51.000 100 million people died under communism the last 100 years.

00:56:55.000 100 million?

00:56:55.000 Yeah, 60 in Mao's China, 30 in Stalin's Russia, 2 million in Pol Pot's Cambodia, at least 200,000 in Cuba.

00:57:04.000 I can keep going.

00:57:04.000 I'm not preaching communism here.

00:57:06.000 No, but I'm saying more people have died under statism.

00:57:08.000 You're telling me nothing about children.

00:57:10.000 You're telling me how much you support Trump and how much communism.

00:57:13.000 I'll talk about whatever you want to talk about.

00:57:15.000 It's your conversation.

00:57:16.000 So, what do you believe?

00:57:19.000 I believe that there's a remedy for situations and not a political battle.

00:57:24.000 I believe that if we work together and open our minds instead of militarizing ourselves, we could come up with a solution.

00:57:31.000 Isn't talking how we come to solutions?

00:57:32.000 Sure.

00:57:33.000 But getting mad and making political stances on who you love and what the president's doing is so great and what the communists are doing is so bad is not a conversation, it's a statement.

00:57:42.000 Well, I'll have a conversation when I think of it.

00:57:44.000 Awesome.

00:57:44.000 Maybe we could have a conversation in the history building sometime.

00:57:47.000 About what?

00:57:48.000 Maybe we could have a conversation in the history building sometime.

00:57:52.000 Yes, history will tell us that when government grows too big, people suffer and die.

00:57:57.000 Yes.

00:57:57.000 That's what the history building should tell you.

00:57:59.000 History will also tell you that we live in the greatest country ever to exist.

00:58:04.000 History will also tell you that Western civilization is the greatest miracle that humans ever did.

00:58:10.000 Western history will tell you that.

00:58:12.000 Any history will tell you that.

00:58:13.000 Western history will tell you that.

00:58:15.000 Tell me.

00:58:16.000 Any history is a false story.

00:58:17.000 I have to be in class, so I would really love to continue.

00:58:19.000 God bless you.

00:58:20.000 Thank you.

00:58:20.000 Do you say it's a lie?

00:58:24.000 We're just kind of talking.

00:58:27.000 Yeah.

00:58:29.000 It's similar.

00:58:34.000 America is the greatest country ever to exist.

00:58:37.000 Not even close.

00:58:40.000 What country would you say is the greatest?

00:58:45.000 Most productive, most accepting, most generous, most benevolent.

00:58:48.000 Most accepting?

00:58:49.000 Yes.

00:58:50.000 We take in half the world's immigrants every single year.

00:58:53.000 How is this not accepting?

00:58:55.000 What does that have to do about not being accepted?

00:58:57.000 Who are you?

00:58:58.000 My name is Charlie Kirk and I love America.

00:59:00.000 Why are you there?

00:59:02.000 Because I love.

00:59:02.000 Talking with people I disagree with.

00:59:04.000 What have you done for your country?

00:59:05.000 Started an organization that's now on a thousand plus campuses to save the greatest culture and country ever to exist. 0.97

00:59:10.000 Hires vets.

00:59:12.000 And hires vets.

00:59:14.000 And I've had thousands of hours of conversation about these ideas.

00:59:19.000 What's with the cameras?

00:59:21.000 Is it necessary?

00:59:22.000 Well, considering I've been assaulted, followed, stalked, and had things thrown at me, the greatest protection I have is cameras.

00:59:29.000 It's a public space.

00:59:35.000 One second, I want to wrap this up.

00:59:41.000 It's all good.

00:59:44.000 But what country would you say is greater than this one?

00:59:49.000 I just said, I mean, we take in half.

00:59:51.000 Your definition of great?

00:59:54.000 I mean, we are the.

00:59:55.000 Can you say that the United States of America has always done, has always made the greatest decision?

01:00:01.000 Because nobody's perfect, right?

01:00:03.000 I never said America was a perfect country, ever.

01:00:06.000 Nor have we.

01:00:07.000 We've made a lot of mistakes.

01:00:07.000 Can you say that any other country has done anything?

01:00:09.000 No, That's not what I've said.

01:00:13.000 Because from an objective analysis, correct, of world history, hello, how are you?

01:00:23.000 We are the most creative, the most accepting, the most benevolent, the most generous, most forward-thinking and productive country ever to exist. 0.78

01:00:32.000 We are a country that sent 37,000 of our own citizens to die on the Korean Peninsula so South Korea could exist, and we asked for nothing in return.

01:00:40.000 No country's ever done anything close to that.

01:00:42.000 We sent the milk.

01:00:45.000 Reading history.

01:00:47.000 How is that not true what I just said?

01:00:49.000 Reading what history?

01:00:52.000 What kind of bias stuff?

01:00:53.000 No, but what am I saying that's untrue?

01:00:55.000 Americans gave away $500 billion to charity last year, voluntarily. 1.00

01:01:00.000 We've taken half of the world's immigrants. 1.00

01:01:02.000 Half. 1.00

01:01:02.000 Do you know how those trusts work? 1.00

01:01:04.000 Do you know that only 5% of the money that you put into a nonprofit or a charity even has to be used?

01:01:13.000 So most.

01:01:15.000 So most charities and most foundations will use 90 plus percent of the net assets they get every single year.

01:01:21.000 What?

01:01:24.000 Now you can look at the IRS website.

01:01:26.000 I understand what I'm saying might bother you.

01:01:28.000 But we're also the most accepting, least racist, most diverse, multiracial country in the world by far.

01:01:33.000 We've been in.

01:01:35.000 Okay, how?

01:01:37.000 Look at the United States. 1.00

01:01:39.000 We've taken half the world's immigrants every single year. 1.00

01:01:42.000 So?

01:01:47.000 Most America's not living in poverty.

01:01:50.000 Yes, really.

01:01:51.000 We're the richest country in the world, by far.

01:01:54.000 We have an American middle class, it's a uniquely American concept.

01:01:58.000 You mean?

01:01:59.000 Excuse me, I grew up in a gang-infested neighborhood.

01:02:01.000 So you want to talk to poor people, I'm talking, and we're talking to you from a perspective of people that make sense.

01:02:08.000 You know that America's poor, actually, and the richest 1% in the world.

01:02:12.000 A remarkable amount.

01:02:14.000 The richest 1% of what?

01:02:16.000 Of people in the world.

01:02:21.000 No, what I'm saying is that a very poor person in America is relatively extraordinarily rich by world standards.

01:02:26.000 Yes.

01:02:28.000 Hello, how are you?

01:02:29.000 I'm good.

01:02:29.000 I don't want to play with it.

01:02:30.000 I just want to understand why can you hear how, what's this been called?

01:02:34.000 I go around universities and have challenging conversations because that's what is so important to our country to find our disagreements respectfully.

01:02:45.000 Because when people stop talking, that's when violence happens.

01:02:49.000 You could see that happen all across the world.

01:02:51.000 So, and I'm not really interested in being filmed.

01:02:53.000 So, I understand I'm in America and that's what you used to do that.

01:02:56.000 But I prefer to.

01:02:57.000 Where are you from, Tanayas?

01:02:59.000 Oh, great, okay.

01:03:00.000 And I just want to get an understanding of how people do that.

01:03:03.000 So I've been in Tennessee, different universities.

01:03:05.000 I've never seen someone do this.

01:03:07.000 Yes, well, it's a growing trend because people like me are facing violence, assault, the left.

01:03:14.000 The left?

01:03:15.000 Yes, the campus, Antifa.

01:03:17.000 I've been stormed out of restaurants, I've been assaulted publicly, multiple death threats.

01:03:21.000 Why do you think, what do you think's happened in the country?

01:03:25.000 Well, the campus left has been incited by Democratic leadership and trained.

01:03:31.000 To go after people like me.

01:03:33.000 Okay, so that part of the society, what motivates you to come at you?

01:03:37.000 Well, because I love talking to people I disagree with.

01:03:41.000 Because in America, we have a tradition for public discourse and dialogue.

01:03:46.000 Going back to the Lincoln Douglas debates, going back to Teddy Roosevelt screaming at political opponents, going back to how the U.S. Congress should exist.

01:03:54.000 Okay, so what's your goal in all of this?

01:03:57.000 To.

01:03:57.000 Are you cold?

01:03:59.000 Could you shoot me? 1.00

01:03:59.000 I'm freezing. 1.00

01:04:00.000 We're in the shade.

01:04:00.000 I'm freezing.

01:04:01.000 Could you pop yourself out in the sun?

01:04:02.000 No, this is where we have to be.

01:04:04.000 My goal is to.

01:04:05.000 Why do you have to be here?

01:04:07.000 Well, because you have to have permits and stuff to do this.

01:04:09.000 Yeah, this is a.

01:04:10.000 Despite the First Amendment, they relegate you to a certain area.

01:04:14.000 But also, number two, there's more people that agree with me than some people would actually believe, and they come out of the woodwork when I do stuff like this.

01:04:22.000 And finally, we record all of it so that we put it on the internet so people can see these ideas collide.

01:04:27.000 When people stop talking, that's when you get violence.

01:04:30.000 That's when civil war happens.

01:04:31.000 Because you start to think the other side is so evil and they lose their humanity.

01:04:35.000 Marriages break apart when you stop talking, churches fall apart.

01:04:37.000 Businesses, companies, friendships, relationships.

01:04:40.000 Can I just say one thing?

01:04:42.000 Because I have to go.

01:04:42.000 Sure.

01:04:43.000 Yes.

01:04:43.000 There's some people from the university here.

01:04:45.000 There's just one thing that I've seen as you've been sitting here shivering in the cold is that you really, you probably have some really good points to say, and that's fine.

01:04:53.000 And I'm trying to listen, understand as I'm here.

01:04:55.000 Because I'm going to go home on Saturday and I'm away from all of this.

01:04:58.000 But you really quickly slip into a rhetoric.

01:05:00.000 Into what?

01:05:01.000 Into a rhetoric.

01:05:02.000 I don't know what that word means.

01:05:03.000 Rhetoric.

01:05:04.000 Oh, rhetoric.

01:05:04.000 I didn't hear it right.

01:05:05.000 Oh, yeah, I hear that.

01:05:05.000 Okay, yeah.

01:05:06.000 That makes you, you kind of start to tip off.

01:05:07.000 Things and the points that you're trying to make, but I'm sure you know your arguments really well.

01:05:12.000 But from the people I watch standing here, they kind of get to face a common sense.

01:05:16.000 Do you think they hear that stuff commonly, though?

01:05:18.000 Well, I don't know if they hear the way you present it, that's all.

01:05:21.000 But I think you become quite lecturing to people.

01:05:24.000 And it's not a criticism, you have your style and you're comfortable with it.

01:05:27.000 But if it's a conversation that you want, I think your approach might be kind of good.

01:05:31.000 Yeah, but at least 10 or 12 things I told that I said that were factual.

01:05:36.000 Yes.

01:05:39.000 But they can walk away at any time.

01:05:40.000 Conversation takes two people.

01:05:43.000 Yes, but they didn't hear it.

01:05:45.000 For example, I said 90 plus percent of Border Patrol agents support building the wall.

01:05:49.000 They immediately dismissed it.

01:05:50.000 They've never heard that before.

01:05:52.000 So I'm saying things that are not commonly discussed at a university.

01:05:54.000 All I'm saying is if it's right, you say it sometimes, right?

01:05:57.000 Okay, I appreciate that.

01:05:58.000 Thank you so much.

01:06:00.000 I appreciate it.

01:06:00.000 Thank you.

01:06:02.000 I'm technically a Democrat, but I have very conservative views because I'm faith based all the way.

01:06:10.000 So I have a question, which is also kind of a disagreement.

01:06:13.000 But I want to build it up, okay?

01:06:16.000 So, of course, you just said Jesus is the most important thing for everyone out here.

01:06:20.000 And so, can you please explain to everyone out here what Jesus stood for, and especially the qualities of love, how to love your neighbor even if they don't agree with you?

01:06:31.000 So, what is your name again?

01:06:32.000 Talise.

01:06:33.000 Talise, that's a beautiful question.

01:06:34.000 I'm glad you came up to ask it.

01:06:35.000 But I want to also just add something because you're right.

01:06:38.000 Jesus fully embodied two things simultaneously that showed his divine and his godly nature.

01:06:45.000 Because not just Jesus said good things, Jesus is Lord, Christ is King, and Jesus is God, on top of just being a guy with a lot of good ideas.

01:06:53.000 Yeah.

01:06:54.000 So, John 8, if I'm drawing from memory correctly, best embodies both Christ's mercy and love, but also his commitment to truth.

01:07:03.000 And sometimes in the modern gospel, we overemphasize the grace and we underemphasize the truth.

01:07:11.000 And so we are far too willing to say, hey, Jesus loves everybody, but we don't get to the second part of the conversation that says, Jesus doesn't want you to live in sin.

01:07:19.000 So, in John 8, it's best embodied, right?

01:07:22.000 Almost every Christian in this audience will be able to tell you the first part of this. 0.95

01:07:25.000 Which is a bunch of Sadducees and Pharisees are sitting around, standing around with rocks, and they're about to stone the prostitute woman.

01:07:31.000 And Jesus comes up and says, Let the first among you without sin cast the first stone.

01:07:36.000 And everyone starts dropping the rocks.

01:07:38.000 But what comes next shows that Christ is not just grace focused, he's simultaneously truth focused.

01:07:44.000 He goes up to the woman who had a career in selling herself for sex and said, Sin no more.

01:07:52.000 Now, imagine today how much trouble you would get in if you would go up to somebody and say, Stop sinning.

01:07:59.000 Oh, you're being too judgmental.

01:08:01.000 No, no, you're actually being Christ like.

01:08:03.000 So Jesus stood.

01:08:04.000 He was 100% grace and truth.

01:08:07.000 And that tension is very hard in a modern world because we want to overemphasize grace when in reality, Christ loves us too much to have us continue to live in sin.

01:08:17.000 He wants us to try to elevate our actions to glorify God in all that we do.

01:08:21.000 I agree 100%.

01:08:23.000 And so to build on my question, I really want to talk about DEI.

01:08:27.000 And so, with our Christian, I will agree with you a lot of.

01:08:31.000 I read the Bible for myself, so I knew what that scripture said.

01:08:34.000 But my question is how can Christian teachings on love, equity, and justice inform and shape discussions on diversity, equity, and inclusion in today's society?

01:08:43.000 And so, to also, Jesus hung out with sinners.

01:08:47.000 He did not judge, he told the truth.

01:08:49.000 And so, I think that a lot of people in society today, when we talk about political views that are opposition, we judge them because we think, oh, because you voted for Trump, you agree on everything, when that's not the case, right?

01:09:03.000 And I want you to talk about that.

01:09:05.000 I'll start with DEI.

01:09:05.000 So, and then I'll connect it to DEI.

01:09:07.000 And I'm going to make a case, and I don't know if it'll be persuasive to you, why I think DEI is unbiblical.

01:09:12.000 And I'm going to try to make that case, okay? 0.82

01:09:14.000 But first, let me talk about, let me comment on your astute point, which is that Christ wants us to be around people that are not like us.

01:09:22.000 This is why I go to college campuses.

01:09:24.000 But more and more, I go to college campuses, and I'm getting a lot of big crowds.

01:09:26.000 So it's kind of unusual.

01:09:28.000 I used to go here and, you know, get heckled and have very small crowds.

01:09:31.000 But let me demonstrate this in an unusual way.

01:09:33.000 Almost every person in this audience would say, Christ wants us to be salt and light.

01:09:38.000 Now, what are the two characteristics of salt and light?

01:09:40.000 They change the environments that they come in contact with.

01:09:43.000 They do not affirm, they do not conform, they change for the better.

01:09:48.000 It's very important, everybody.

01:09:50.000 We as Christians are called to change the environment that we come in touch with.

01:09:54.000 How's it going?

01:09:55.000 So, I'm a born again believer in Jesus.

01:10:02.000 But I want to hear your thoughts, Charlie, because sometimes I really struggle to align myself with the conservative side of the.

01:10:10.000 Issues in our country and multiple experiences in my life, whether it be it was just a conversation that somebody picked up or whatever, how I look, whatever it may be, assumptions, my political views or where I'm leaning have blocked and gotten in front of what I really believe in, which is advancing the gospel.

01:10:29.000 And so my issue sometimes is that I want to be patriotic, I want to vote for and be public about that which I think is best for my country.

01:10:40.000 But I don't want it to get in front of my main goal, what I feel like I've been placed here on this earth for, which is advancing the gospel to all people, not just conservatives, not just people who are comfortable walking in the church, but the far left of the left who are in their season of life for reasons I don't know.

01:10:56.000 And I don't want what I believe to be best for this country to get in the way of what's going to ultimately grow the kingdom of God.

01:11:05.000 It's a great question.

01:11:06.000 What's your name?

01:11:06.000 Matt.

01:11:07.000 Matt, thank you.

01:11:08.000 Let's repeat what you said because it's correct.

01:11:10.000 The most important thing in the world is to know Christ and make him known.

01:11:15.000 The second most important thing, though, is to make sure you can do the first thing.

01:11:20.000 That's where I come in.

01:11:21.000 You're focusing your life on number one.

01:11:24.000 I'm focusing a majority of my life on number two.

01:11:25.000 What I mean by that?

01:11:26.000 During COVID, they called the church non essential, yet they left strip clubs open, marijuana dispensaries, Home Depot, and Lowe's, but they said the bride of Christ was non essential.

01:11:35.000 They always say separation of church and state.

01:11:37.000 Why is it then that the state could come in and shut down the church?

01:11:40.000 You see, what we see is that when we stop caring about politics, the government gets so big, it starts persecuting.

01:11:46.000 Our religious liberty and our freedom.

01:11:47.000 And it's not a contradiction.

01:11:49.000 In fact, if you look at the conservative agenda, it is far, it's a far greater fit with a biblical worldview than anything on the left.

01:11:57.000 And I'm sure you agree with that, right?

01:11:59.000 God created man and woman.

01:12:00.000 When does life begin?

01:12:01.000 Strong borders.

01:12:02.000 It says in the scriptures, Jeremiah 29 7, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in, because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.

01:12:10.000 So we should care about our nation.

01:12:11.000 In fact, Daniel fasted and prayed for his country.

01:12:14.000 Esther, Mordecai, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, Joseph.

01:12:17.000 In fact, we are called to be counselors to the king.

01:12:20.000 We're called to be the moral conscience of a nation.

01:12:23.000 And so, if we want to know Christ and make him known, we must have one ingredient a free society.

01:12:30.000 It is hard to know Christ and make him known in countries where the gospel is not allowed to be told on the side of the street, like China or North Korea.

01:12:37.000 And that's not an exaggeration. 0.85

01:12:39.000 When Christians fail to care about politics, politics will start caring about Christians. 0.74

01:12:44.000 And we must understand that we are the recipients and the inheritors of a country that was founded by Christians. 0.51

01:12:50.000 So, the gospel can spread.

01:12:52.000 And so, I don't think it's a contradiction at all.

01:12:54.000 I don't think that it's what's best for the country.

01:12:56.000 I think it's actually best for the kingdom.

01:12:58.000 And let's pretend America falls.

01:13:00.000 Let's say America collapses.

01:13:02.000 Do you know that well over 90% of all international mission funding comes from the United States?

01:13:07.000 Yeah, I can believe it.

01:13:08.000 That most missionaries come from 5% of the world's population here.

01:13:12.000 We are populating the earth and Africa and South America with people who love the Lord, that come with money, that come with resources, that come with clean water equipment.

01:13:20.000 If America were to fall, The gospel would not spread as far.

01:13:23.000 In fact, the world is becoming more Christian because of America's wealth, our generosity, and our track record to say that we're going to stand for our fellow man and love our neighbor as ourselves.

01:13:33.000 So I don't see any contradiction. 0.92

01:13:35.000 I just see a difference in the same mission.

01:13:37.000 Your mission is first and foremost to win people to Christ.

01:13:40.000 I try to do that every day.

01:13:41.000 But my mission is to make sure that you can do that without being arrested or thrown in a gulag.

01:13:46.000 Thank you.

01:13:47.000 God bless you.

01:13:48.000 And I just wanted to ask you, because I'm a big Catholic, I wanted to ask you how important do you think religion is in this day and age?

01:13:53.000 Very important.

01:13:54.000 Yeah, I mean, as America becomes more secular and as the country becomes less godly, we become less free, more miserable, more depressed, more suicidal, more anxious, et cetera.

01:14:03.000 Yeah.

01:14:04.000 So, is this so?

01:14:05.000 I see that you really do try to push religion.

01:14:09.000 You're a Christian, right?

01:14:10.000 Yeah, I am a Christian.

01:14:11.000 Did you grow up that way?

01:14:13.000 Yes, and no.

01:14:14.000 Or did you just recently kind of.

01:14:15.000 No, I mean, I grew up in a passive Christian home, gave my life to the Lord when I was in fifth grade.

01:14:19.000 Yeah.

01:14:21.000 Hi.

01:14:21.000 I'm wondering what your intentions are.

01:14:24.000 Sorry, I'm new to you in this, and I was just intrigued.

01:14:27.000 Sure.

01:14:28.000 Hear from different ideas and see where we agree and disagree.

01:14:31.000 Yeah.

01:14:32.000 What's like your purpose, though?

01:14:34.000 Like communication, yes, but like what ideas are you trying to bring or like help people understand?

01:14:41.000 Conservative ones, traditional American ones.

01:14:43.000 Okay, like traditional conservatism or like modern conservative right wing?

01:14:47.000 Because they like switched.

01:14:48.000 I don't like labels, so you can ask me about a topic.

01:14:50.000 Oh, cool.

01:14:51.000 So, yeah.

01:14:51.000 Okay.

01:14:53.000 I think there's only two sexes, no genders, infinite personalities.

01:14:56.000 Life begins at conception. 1.00

01:14:58.000 We should deport all the illegals, right? 1.00

01:15:00.000 The mRNA gene altering shock called the vaccine killed a lot of people and is currently poisoning a lot of people. 1.00

01:15:05.000 Yeah.

01:15:05.000 So these are just some of my opinions.

01:15:07.000 So you think it'll like make the country better?

01:15:10.000 Like, what are you.

01:15:11.000 Yeah, I mean, I hope that number one, I want to support our amazing Turning Point USA chapter here.

01:15:15.000 Where they feel outnumbered and isolated.

01:15:17.000 Number two, we're promoting our event tonight, so I hope you guys show up.

01:15:20.000 Where's our event?

01:15:20.000 It's like in the Montezuma Hall or something.

01:15:23.000 Yeah, it's great.

01:15:24.000 Montezuma Hall, whatever.

01:15:26.000 And number three is, I want to see where I might be wrong, strengthen my arguments, and anybody can say anything to me.

01:15:32.000 I think that free speech is the last best hope we have in Western society.

01:15:35.000 Nice. 1.00

01:15:36.000 Okay, then I have a question about women's rights in America. 0.54

01:15:41.000 I just want to hear what you think, like where you think we're at, how you think we could better them. 0.99

01:15:46.000 Yeah, just so I know where you're coming from, can you tell me what a woman is?

01:15:51.000 Oh, that's a great question. 1.00

01:15:53.000 I would classify a woman as somebody with a womb and/or a vagina. 0.98

01:15:59.000 Sometimes people are born with either one or the other. 1.00

01:16:03.000 Good, we agree, yes. 0.96

01:16:04.000 So, as far as woman's rights, I don't separate rights based on sex.

01:16:10.000 So, you have to tell me what you mean based on that.

01:16:14.000 Okay, oh, that's interesting.

01:16:16.000 So, do you believe that there's a difference right now in people's rights?

01:16:21.000 No, no, I mean there's male female differences, but there are no male rights or women.

01:16:25.000 Can you give me an example of.

01:16:26.000 Okay, like patriarchy, that's what I'm getting at.

01:16:28.000 Do you believe that we live in a patriarchy and it negatively affects women?

01:16:31.000 No.

01:16:32.000 No.

01:16:33.000 Yeah, so for example, men are more likely to commit suicide, more likely to die at work, more likely to declare bankruptcy.

01:16:40.000 Women are far less likely to be in credit card debt, far more likely to graduate from college, far more likely to get a high paying job.

01:16:47.000 Do you think that the.

01:16:49.000 That's a really good point.

01:16:50.000 Do you think that the.

01:16:52.000 Suicide rates or the depression rates and the bankruptcy rates that you just mentioned regarding men have to do with the fact that men are pushed to be less open about their emotions.

01:17:04.000 They're less available to being able to communicate how they feel with others.

01:17:08.000 They're taught to be more violent and be more physically harmful to themselves and others.

01:17:13.000 And do you think that pushes them towards suicide, depression, and bankruptcy?

01:17:17.000 I think it's the opposite.

01:17:18.000 I think that we're teaching men to be metrosexual versions of their former selves.

01:17:22.000 What does metrosexual mean to you?

01:17:24.000 Indecipherable between a man and woman.

01:17:26.000 Oh, okay. 0.99

01:17:27.000 What's a man and woman to you?

01:17:28.000 What's the difference between them? 0.97

01:17:29.000 Well, a man isn't, you're looking at a man, and I think I'm looking at a woman, if I'm not mistaken.

01:17:33.000 Nice, yeah.

01:17:34.000 That was funny.

01:17:35.000 Yeah, thank you.

01:17:38.000 There's characteristics, archetypes, but we have differences. 0.99

01:17:43.000 There are significant male female differences.

01:17:45.000 Like what?

01:17:46.000 Well, men tend to be more assertive, women tend to be more agreeable. 0.66

01:17:49.000 Innately or taught?

01:17:50.000 Innately, and I wouldn't say taught.

01:17:52.000 Innately based on what science?

01:17:54.000 Well, just for example, if we look at artificial intelligence scanned over 10,000 brains using a spec. Scan and was able to determine male female differences 95% of the time of different brain functions based on basal ganglia, amygdala, cerebellum, ages 14 to 22.

01:18:12.000 Okay, 14 to 22.

01:18:13.000 I read a study recently that before the age of 10, brains are, neuroscientists are unable to be able to tell the difference in gender based on the brain, but at a certain point, the social implications that children are taught start making them act differently.

01:18:29.000 But it's been shown that if a man Or a woman were given the same.

01:18:34.000 Okay, have you heard that men are able to have more spatial awareness in their brain?

01:18:39.000 I think that's probably true, yeah.

01:18:40.000 Yeah, so we learned that if women are given a month of the same practices as children that men are given or allowed to do, whether it comes to what they're playing, the media they're in taking, like what they're told and how they're told to act, that women have the same spatial awareness ability as men.

01:18:57.000 So we're finding that innately the brain is the same, but because of the social constructs that we're taught on men and women and how they're supposed to act, their brain.

01:19:06.000 Ability to activate certain parts changes.

01:19:09.000 So by 14, the brain does seem different.

01:19:12.000 You raised kids?

01:19:13.000 Tell me.

01:19:13.000 Have you ever raised kids?

01:19:15.000 No, I have six nieces and nephews, though, men and women.

01:19:17.000 You couldn't be more wrong.

01:19:19.000 If you're even around a two year old boy and two year old girl, it's not a matter of what they're taught.

01:19:22.000 The girls are running to the dresses, the boys are running to the guns.

01:19:25.000 You know who agrees with me?

01:19:26.000 One of the leading feminists of the 60s and 70s, Gloria Steinman, who wrote Feminist Mystique.

01:19:31.000 Yes.

01:19:31.000 I've read that.

01:19:32.000 Even she, who was like a hardcore genderist taught, when she raised her kids, she was like, oh my goodness.

01:19:40.000 There is a fundamental innate difference between men and women.

01:19:42.000 And it's not just brain structure. 0.64

01:19:44.000 It's testosterone, it's estradiol, it's estrogen production, it is hormone levels.

01:19:50.000 And I could just prove it. 0.84

01:19:52.000 If you sit down with a young lady, they're far more likely to talk about micro topics, and men are more likely to talk about macro topics.

01:19:59.000 What's the difference between micro and macro?

01:20:00.000 Great question.

01:20:01.000 So if I sat down with a young lady, she'd be much more likely to talk about friends, relationships, and things that are very intimate to her.

01:20:07.000 A young man would be more likely to talk about the weather, sports, or the stock market, or politics.

01:20:11.000 Yeah.

01:20:12.000 And that's not taught.

01:20:14.000 That is innate into our bioprogramming.

01:20:17.000 What is bioprogramming?

01:20:18.000 How we were designed.

01:20:20.000 What do you mean, how we were designed?

01:20:21.000 I mean, I believe that there's a creator that designed us and that we're fearfully and wonderfully made.

01:20:27.000 And you might not agree.

01:20:28.000 I would just say how you were born, I could even say, just to come to common ground on that.

01:20:31.000 Oh, okay.

01:20:32.000 So the creator chose that men and women have separate roles and it's innate?

01:20:36.000 Well, not just separate roles, but made differently.

01:20:38.000 And out of being made differently, you get different roles.

01:20:40.000 Right.

01:20:40.000 So if science proves that the other way, do you rely on creator over science?

01:20:46.000 But science has done the opposite.

01:20:47.000 So, for example, in a Harvard study, they put 50 women in a room alone and they put 50 men in the room alone.

01:20:52.000 What age?

01:20:54.000 Not relevant, but around 25, right?

01:20:56.000 Relevant.

01:20:57.000 Okay.

01:20:58.000 No, sorry.

01:20:59.000 I'm actually having so much fun.

01:21:00.000 Okay.

01:21:00.000 Sorry.

01:21:01.000 Okay.

01:21:02.000 So, if you really, I'm fascinated that you think that eight year olds' brains are infinitely neuroplastic, but we'll get back to that later.

01:21:08.000 Oh, no.

01:21:08.000 When they're like babies.

01:21:10.000 By eight years old, you're already going through school and you've had so many relationships.

01:21:13.000 They're definitely effective.

01:21:14.000 But again, if you were right, John Money would have been proven right, but we'll get to that later.

01:21:17.000 So, which.

01:21:19.000 That test has been replicated so many times.

01:21:21.000 And even the Dutch, who are like the most progressive on this, have gotten away from the idea of tabula rasa that boys and girls are born similarly with brain differences.

01:21:30.000 But we'll agree to disclaim that.

01:21:31.000 But anyway, 25 year olds were put into a room, okay?

01:21:34.000 And they said, Men, what do you think about when they're alone?

01:21:36.000 No surprise, sports and sex, right?

01:21:38.000 Young ladies, what do you think about in the room alone for 30 minutes just by themselves?

01:21:41.000 They replayed prior conversations that they had.

01:21:45.000 For the record, no man in the history of the species has replayed conversations that we had and thought about them when we were alone in a room.

01:21:52.000 Like, what conversation?

01:21:53.000 What was this person said? 0.58

01:21:54.000 Women are far more relational, micro, than men. 1.00

01:21:58.000 And that's just based on how our design is. 1.00

01:22:01.000 Whoa.

01:22:02.000 I think that you just lied that all men don't think that's such a.

01:22:08.000 It's called a joke.

01:22:09.000 I'm sure there's a man somewhere that recollected on a conversation.

01:22:13.000 Well, I didn't know that in a dialect that's a debate based on science and you're talking about a study, that would you implement a joke that's based on it?

01:22:19.000 Yes, humor is a tool of a redetermination to try to get people to chuckle a little levity.

01:22:25.000 So, yeah, thank you.

01:22:26.000 I appreciate it.

01:22:27.000 Thank you.

01:22:28.000 Let me ask you a question Do you think testosterone and estrogen play into people's ability?

01:22:32.000 To have drive, ambition, feelings, and do you think testosterone and estrogen are important?

01:22:38.000 Yes.

01:22:39.000 Okay, so then if women are lower in testosterone and higher in estrogen, and men are lower in estrogen and higher in testosterone, wouldn't that, independent of society's framing, play into the idea that there are natural differences between the two?

01:22:52.000 I think that it definitely plays into the idea that there are natural differences.

01:22:56.000 And I think there are natural differences.

01:22:57.000 I just think to an extent that as a society we've decided that men, because they have more testosterone and we've known testosterone makes people more aggravated, that or What's aggravated?

01:23:08.000 I'll just leave it aggressive.

01:23:09.000 Aggressive, yes.

01:23:10.000 I'll take aggressive.

01:23:11.000 Yeah, thank you.

01:23:12.000 That it makes people or men more aggressive.

01:23:15.000 That we've decided that that means that men are not in control of their moral ability or their ability to choose what they're going to do.

01:23:25.000 So it becomes like men have more testosterone, but they still have the ability to choose to treat people better or with less aggression.

01:23:34.000 Like it's not, it's like, oh, men don't have the.

01:23:38.000 Ability to make those choices that's almost like downplaying men's ability by saying that they just have to give in to their aggression.

01:23:43.000 I'm not contesting that.

01:23:44.000 The mark of a true man is one who can control himself.

01:23:48.000 Do you think that you could all do you think there's a problem of trying to turn women too masculine? 0.70

01:23:53.000 Turning women too masculine. 0.55

01:23:57.000 What's masculine for you? 0.97

01:24:00.000 Well, let's just say not agreeable, forceful, aggressive, aggressive in the best possible term, forward thinking, more macro, more visionary.

01:24:11.000 Less feeling based, more rational, more yearning towards reason and dialogue, and less towards compassion or the ethos. 0.56

01:24:18.000 And what's feminine to you?

01:24:20.000 The inverse of that. 0.63

01:24:21.000 So, more on the emotion side, less macro, more micro.

01:24:25.000 So, women aren't just what men are not?

01:24:28.000 No, they're different sides of a species coin, right? 0.54

01:24:32.000 So, you have a human species, you have a male and female, and there's differences.

01:24:35.000 So, I could also posit it separately.

01:24:38.000 A woman is more compassionate, a man is less compassionate.

01:24:42.000 So, there's two ways to word it. 0.97

01:24:43.000 Right.

01:24:44.000 Do you think that there's a problem about trying to force women to be too masculine?

01:24:48.000 No, I don't think there's a problem.

01:24:49.000 Okay, well, I disagree.

01:24:52.000 We have a crisis in this country. 1.00

01:24:53.000 I'm curious, why do you think that we have so many unmarried young 30 something women? 1.00

01:24:58.000 It's the most in the history of recorded data. 1.00

01:25:01.000 That's a good question. 1.00

01:25:02.000 I don't know if I've ever pondered why we have unmarried women. 0.98

01:25:05.000 Why do you think that young women are the most depressed, alcohol addicted, and psychiatric drug addicted in history? 1.00

01:25:12.000 Is that true? 0.95

01:25:13.000 Oh, yeah, the most miserable they've ever been.

01:25:15.000 I'm just curious, why do you think that is?

01:25:16.000 Yeah, I guess I would say that I think it's because, like, the society that we live in, right, like, capitalistic, consumeristic, where there's, like, constant processing and overconsumption, that includes, like, drugs, alcohol, like, the overconsumption.

01:25:32.000 So women going into the workforce a lot could create a lot of depression for them. 0.74

01:25:36.000 Yeah, same with men. 1.00

01:25:38.000 Okay, but then shouldn't women, like, I don't know, stay at home and have children and do what they're designed to do? 1.00

01:25:43.000 Men are also, wouldn't that make them happier? 1.00

01:25:45.000 Wouldn't that make them happier?

01:25:47.000 In this country. 1.00

01:25:48.000 So you can make the same argument for men that you just made for women. 0.77

01:25:50.000 I'm not even making it. 0.54

01:25:51.000 I'm asking questions.

01:25:51.000 I'm saying maybe the men are upset because the women that they're trying to date are more interested in taking care of cats and trying to become partners at the local law firm.

01:26:00.000 And they say, I don't want to get married until I'm 30.

01:26:03.000 And maybe that creates a sense of despondency when a young male being raised in this country sees everything rigged against them. 0.97

01:26:10.000 So, do you not believe that women should be working?

01:26:12.000 Of course, I think I believe in liberty.

01:26:14.000 I'm just asking, has there been an unintended tragedy where we have the most financially successful 30 to 35 year old cohort of young women in?

01:26:23.000 History.

01:26:24.000 And men. 0.77

01:26:25.000 Well, again, the women. 1.00

01:26:27.000 Like men and women are the most sick and depressed they are. 0.99

01:26:29.000 The women are far more depressed than the men. 0.99

01:26:31.000 The men are depressed.

01:26:31.000 But you just said that the men were more depressed and that's why they're suicidal than men.

01:26:34.000 They're more suicidal.

01:26:35.000 And they're largely more suicidal than men.

01:26:37.000 So they're more suicidal, but they're less depressed? 1.00

01:26:39.000 No, they're more successful at committing suicide than women. 1.00

01:26:42.000 Oh, okay. 0.99

01:26:42.000 That's a big difference, okay? 0.99

01:26:44.000 Yeah, women commit suicide. 1.00

01:26:45.000 Women, no, it's true. 1.00

01:26:46.000 Women try to commit suicide more. 1.00

01:26:48.000 And yet women will go through three or four attempted suicide attempts. 0.96

01:26:51.000 Men, usually, only one.

01:26:52.000 You can look it up.

01:26:53.000 It's just the way it is.

01:26:54.000 But I'm just curious, what is it about. 1.00

01:26:57.000 The 30 to 35 year old female, do you think there might be something missing? 1.00

01:27:01.000 Do you think that there's like this biological urge to get married and procreate that we might have been suppressing? 0.59

01:27:06.000 Because it is the least child, it's the childless, least married cohort in the history of the country.

01:27:11.000 Yeah.

01:27:12.000 I believe that marriage and reproduction are beautiful things.

01:27:16.000 I do.

01:27:16.000 Do you think we should encourage it more for young women?

01:27:20.000 I think we could encourage a deeper understanding of people's individual sense of self.

01:27:27.000 And then through that, if people can better understand, Their wants and needs, and become more self aware about who they are and what they need, that ultimately they would lead them to better and more efficient decision making for themselves.

01:27:40.000 Okay.

01:27:40.000 Whether or not that means marriage?

01:27:41.000 Last question.

01:27:42.000 You posited this.

01:27:43.000 How would you define the patriarchy?

01:27:45.000 Oh, the patriarchy.

01:27:46.000 So, patriarchy, like the epistemology of the word.

01:27:50.000 Or just like, do you believe it exists in the country today?

01:27:53.000 Yeah, I believe patriarchy exists.

01:27:56.000 Patriarchy comes from pater, right?

01:27:58.000 Pater means father in Latin.

01:28:00.000 So, patriarchy is.

01:28:02.000 Father over or men over. 0.57

01:28:04.000 So it's like a men ruling, right? 0.83

01:28:05.000 So we see it in the fact that God or the divinity is represented as men, which was only happened like halfway through the history of humans. 0.78

01:28:14.000 So it was like a matrilineal matriarchy society for a while. 0.81

01:28:19.000 We see it in the fact that women take men's last name.

01:28:23.000 We see it in the way that men are viewed, or like men view women, and how women kind of have to adhere to.

01:28:35.000 The way that men want them to be portrayed.

01:28:37.000 And I agree with you that porn is, what'd you say? 0.57

01:28:40.000 Toxic. 0.98

01:28:40.000 Toxic, yeah. 0.98

01:28:42.000 And I think that's an aspect of the patriarchy, right?

01:28:44.000 Like, if you go on a porn website, which I'm sure you haven't in a while.

01:28:49.000 Not in a while, I used to be addicted, though.

01:28:50.000 Yeah.

01:28:51.000 Whoa, could I?

01:28:51.000 And I encourage everyone to break free of that addiction.

01:28:53.000 It's terrible.

01:28:54.000 Yeah, me too.

01:28:55.000 Yeah, me too.

01:28:55.000 That's great.

01:28:57.000 Proud of you for that one.

01:28:59.000 Yeah. 0.67

01:28:59.000 But if you go on a porn website, you can see that, like, the view of all of the porn is from the perspective of a man and it's of a woman. 0.67

01:29:07.000 And these kinds of aspects show that right now, We live in a society where it's a man's view, it's men over.

01:29:14.000 So, like, we're all taking on. 0.64

01:29:16.000 Yeah, I thank you for that.

01:29:19.000 First, on the porn thing, 85% of people that consume porn are men.

01:29:22.000 So, they're obviously going to shoot it in a way that is more attuned to men.

01:29:26.000 For example, what if it was shooted for women in the midst of a relationship? 0.79

01:29:31.000 Then they would change the perspective because they're in it to make money.

01:29:34.000 The same reason why Lifetime movies don't have rock and roll music and they tend to be very uplifting, flowery, emotional based. 0.94

01:29:41.000 Hyper feminine in the writing because most people that watch Lifetime movies are women.

01:29:45.000 What's Lifetime movie? 0.78

01:29:46.000 Okay, a lifetime movie is like a feel good movie on cable TV that has like a very poorly written narrative and usually ends in some sort of.

01:29:54.000 Like Hallmark?

01:29:55.000 Yeah, like Hallmark.

01:29:56.000 Yeah, that's the best way I could put it.

01:29:57.000 Got it.

01:29:58.000 But thank you for the dialogue.

01:29:59.000 I appreciate it.

01:29:59.000 Yeah, thanks.

01:30:00.000 Thanks, you too.

01:30:01.000 Thank you.

01:30:01.000 Good luck.

01:30:02.000 Thanks.

01:30:05.000 Sorry, just to clarify, I'm not a very big fan.

01:30:07.000 I'm aware of Turning Point USA, but I don't watch a lot of stuff.

01:30:12.000 I don't really have like a theological or political question.

01:30:15.000 I have more of a question about like dialogue and like the purpose of kind of these meetings.

01:30:21.000 Because.

01:30:22.000 Looking into Turning Point USA, it's really just an organization that's meant to spread awareness of your political beliefs, being pro Christian, pro Republican Party, or more Trump, I guess.

01:30:35.000 But my question is do you think that this platform or this discussion of politics in this way is useful?

01:30:43.000 Because, for example, the guy that you talked to a little bit ago about vaccines, you had a lot of stuff to say to him that he couldn't really counteract in that moment, because just coming from it, You are a professional, that this is your job.

01:30:55.000 You walk around doing this.

01:30:56.000 And so you just have more facts readily available that aren't necessarily verifiable.

01:31:01.000 So it's kind of hard to argue a point whether it's right or wrong and whether or not you have the equipment to do so if you just automatically have points that we can't really verify.

01:31:13.000 You guys are welcome to bring phones or notes or phone a friend.

01:31:16.000 Well, yeah, but that.

01:31:17.000 You can bring a professor too.

01:31:18.000 That's a good point.

01:31:19.000 No, go bring a professor. 0.89

01:31:20.000 Bring two.

01:31:21.000 Bring the whole.

01:31:21.000 I'll debate them all.

01:31:24.000 No, go find a professor, bring them down, and let's debate whatever you want.

01:31:28.000 Okay.

01:31:28.000 Meaning, like, yes, to answer your question, you're coming to this in a good way.

01:31:31.000 I do think this is effective.

01:31:32.000 Look at the crowd you've already assembled.

01:31:34.000 And I think that free speech is a bedrock of American society, and to be able to pursue truth and find out where we agree or disagree or have my assumptions challenged.

01:31:43.000 And I do this all from memory.

01:31:45.000 I don't have any notes here.

01:31:46.000 You guys are not professionals.

01:31:48.000 You're able to bring whatever you want.

01:31:49.000 But yeah, look, I think that on this campus, especially, it is a predominantly homogenous left wing campus, especially amongst the professors.

01:31:58.000 And to have a conservative be able to sit here and take adversarial questions, I think it also gives confidence to other conservatives here on campus to speak up when they might hear something they disagree about or give them conviction to maybe say, hey, I don't agree with that.

01:32:11.000 And so I think that has a lot of value.

01:32:13.000 Okay.

01:32:15.000 Just one more question on the meeting itself, because I understand the point of kind of validating conservatives' ability to talk.

01:32:22.000 Obviously, we don't want to just kind of shut them up, that's not a very good course for dialogue.

01:32:26.000 I agree.

01:32:27.000 Yeah.

01:32:27.000 But I think at the same time, It's also, these are all posted on the internet, right?

01:32:33.000 Well, they're posted in its entirety.

01:32:35.000 Yes.

01:32:36.000 Yeah, correct.

01:32:36.000 But as long as, unless somebody says, you know, something that you can't.

01:32:40.000 Yeah, something that you can't.

01:32:41.000 But usually, again, as someone who doesn't watch Turning Point USA, the only thing I see from talks like this and similar to like, I don't know if you associate with like Steven Crowder or, but he has very similar like, come and talk, talk about these things.

01:32:55.000 The only thing I ever really see from that is more sensationalized conversations, like shutting down.

01:33:01.000 And sometimes I feel like this dialogue can become a real problem.

01:33:04.000 Yeah, I mean, again, you can look at my YouTube channel.

01:33:05.000 We post hour long clips of these deals.

01:33:07.000 So you see the clips because they lead to the longer form, but both are posted for sure.

01:33:12.000 Do you think it's because it leads to the longer form or it's easier to watch and more entertaining?

01:33:17.000 I mean, look, you're competing for eyeballs against literal pornography, Hulu, Netflix, and sports.

01:33:22.000 So when people want to engage with content around politics, you're trying to win people over, right?

01:33:27.000 But also, we want to have integrity for the conversations that we have, which is what we do with a lot of our YouTube videos and our longer form content.

01:33:34.000 Okay.

01:33:34.000 Thank you very much.

01:33:35.000 Appreciate it.

01:33:36.000 Keep watching, man.

01:33:37.000 Thank you.

01:33:38.000 Oh, are you a Satanist?

01:33:40.000 No, I know Satan's not real.

01:33:41.000 Not that.

01:33:42.000 Oh, okay.

01:33:42.000 Yeah.

01:33:43.000 No, Satan is very real.

01:33:44.000 But yeah, you can put the mic up.

01:33:46.000 Satan is very, very real.

01:33:47.000 And it does relate to what I wanted to ask.

01:33:48.000 I wanted to ask, like, well, first, are you a Christian by any chance?

01:33:51.000 Very, very much so.

01:33:52.000 And I wanted to ask, like, why is that exactly?

01:33:54.000 Oh, Jesus saved my life.

01:33:56.000 I'm a sinner, fall short of the glory of God, gave my life to Christ, most important decision I ever made.

01:34:00.000 So you believe the Bible is real?

01:34:01.000 Yes, I believe the Bible is true and real.

01:34:03.000 Why is that?

01:34:05.000 Well, I could give you the technical answer.

01:34:06.000 There's never been an archaeological discovery that has contradicted the truth of the Bible.

01:34:10.000 We know everything in the Bible as far as the kings, as far as the succession of Israeli rulers, to the Jewish people being put in exile, to be put back into.

01:34:18.000 The land of Jerusalem to the destruction of the temple in AD 70, all that checks out.

01:34:22.000 There's never been a discovery that's contradicted it, from King Hezekiah to King Cyrus to Nehemiah to Zerubbabel to the destruction of the creation of the second temple.

01:34:30.000 And then, of course, the wisdom.

01:34:31.000 There is not a truth of the Bible that if you apply to your life, your life does not improve dramatically.

01:34:36.000 And then finally, we have the most accurate and transparent, the most historically robust account, I should say, that one can have of the most important figure ever to live in the history of the world Jesus of Nazareth.

01:34:48.000 And Jesus of Nazareth, who was born of virgin birth, what we believe is the incarnation, performed miracles all throughout Judea and Samaria, eventually confronted Pharisees, led to a death that he did not deserve, was in the grave for three days, and then rose from the dead.

01:35:02.000 And the resurrection is the pinpoint of my belief that Jesus did rise from the grave so that we may live.

01:35:10.000 So, what about the stories of Greek and Roman mythology?

01:35:12.000 Do you think any of that is real?

01:35:13.000 No.

01:35:13.000 So, then what makes Christian mythology real?

01:35:15.000 Well, give me an example of Christian mythology that I can, like creation.

01:35:20.000 So, like Genesis 1.

01:35:21.000 Maybe, like, the story of David and Goliath, for example.

01:35:23.000 Okay, well, that one's actually pretty easy to deconstruct.

01:35:27.000 A sling is actually a rather lethal weapon, especially for someone in a Judean tribe that's trained to use a sling of a young age.

01:35:34.000 And Goliath was a rather clumsy individual.

01:35:38.000 And if you're able to pinpoint a rock right between the temple lobe, you can effectively kill or lobotomize that individual.

01:35:44.000 So, that's hardly mythology.

01:35:46.000 All right, so what about the story of Satan's fall then?

01:35:48.000 What about that is real?

01:35:49.000 In Ezekiel.

01:35:50.000 Yeah, so.

01:35:51.000 That's not mythology, but that is theology.

01:35:53.000 So, in the story of Satan's fall in the later books of Ezekiel, we are told that God created the heavens and the earth, God created the angels, and there was a rebellious angel, Lucifer, who led a rebellion against God and brought one third of the angels with him and then created what is now the underworld, is the best Hebraic interpretation of that which we now know as hell.

01:36:13.000 I could go through every single story Jonah and the whale, parting of the Red Sea, right?

01:36:17.000 Ahab on Mount Karma with Elijah.

01:36:19.000 Here's my answer.

01:36:20.000 If Genesis 1 1, And the resurrection is true, anything in the Bible is possible.

01:36:25.000 You're looking at the greatest miracle.

01:36:27.000 The greatest miracle is creation.

01:36:29.000 The fact that we have an ordered, intelligible world where we can exist and that human beings are able to flourish, that is a miracle.

01:36:38.000 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

01:36:40.000 In Hebrew, that is Bereshit, in the beginning.

01:36:42.000 And then the fact that Jesus rose from the dead.

01:36:44.000 And I say, how do you know that Jesus rose from the dead?

01:36:46.000 Well, show me another historical piece of a story where so many people willingly died.

01:36:52.000 A brutal death for a lie.

01:36:54.000 Every single person around him had everything to lose, and yet they went to the absolute death from Paul to Peter to the half brother of James, saying that Jesus is Lord, Jesus rose from the dead.

01:37:04.000 Not to mention, if you were going to fake a story, you would not use female witnesses in the ancient world.

01:37:08.000 In the scriptures, it said that the women were the first one to see Jesus Christ.

01:37:12.000 If you're trying to fake a story, you would never do that.

01:37:14.000 Not to mention the 500 people that saw Jesus after he rose from the dead, doubting Thomas, and then the later church that lived under persecution under the belief that Jesus Christ was the Son of God.

01:37:24.000 All right, one last question. 0.63

01:37:26.000 Do you think Christianity should be forced onto everybody?

01:37:28.000 No, no.

01:37:29.000 I don't believe Christianity should be forced. 0.99

01:37:31.000 Then it's not love, it's rape.

01:37:32.000 So we believe that God loves you, so he will not force you. 1.00

01:37:35.000 And so if you reject God, you will go to hell.

01:37:38.000 I hope that's not the case for you guys, because you can give Jesus Christ, you can live life eternal.

01:37:42.000 But it's a love story, not a force story.

01:37:44.000 And so it's this option in front of you.

01:37:45.000 Will you surrender in front of the cross?

01:37:47.000 The cross is this idea that the perfect, the divine, came down and took a human form and died the most brutal death the ancient world knew, the most torturous, brutal death that someone could possibly know, and then rose from the dead to defeat death so that you could live forever.

01:38:00.000 And so it's a gift there right in front of you.

01:38:01.000 If you take that gift, it transforms you from within, changes your life.

01:38:05.000 You have joy and happiness that you otherwise would not have.

01:38:08.000 But you have a conscious choice to reject that.

01:38:11.000 And I hope you don't.

01:38:12.000 And if you reject that, then you will go where you want to go, which is.

01:38:17.000 In absence, the furthest distance one can be from the divine.

01:38:21.000 I go to college campuses and there's a lot of error.

01:38:23.000 We're all sinners.

01:38:24.000 We all live in error.

01:38:25.000 We as Christians are called to go into the public arena to correct error with truth.

01:38:31.000 What is God's plan when I go on a college campus?

01:38:33.000 I just believe I will only tell truth, I will not compromise, and I'll love on the laws.

01:38:38.000 Purpose will give you happiness.

01:38:40.000 You see, we live in a country where they think that happiness is pleasure.

01:38:44.000 We know that purpose is above all of this.

01:38:47.000 Serving God.

01:38:47.000 That we are made in this image, that there is a struggle of good versus evil.

01:38:51.000 Every day you get to fight for what is good and what is true and beautiful.

01:38:54.000 God should be the most important thing in your life.

01:38:56.000 Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior, most important thing.

01:38:59.000 But then beyond that, it's getting married, having children, building families, leaving a legacy, doing big and great things.

01:39:11.000 Taking the deep, but sometimes the difficult road is the way that you should configure your life.

01:39:17.000 Getting married and having children. Is a difficult but deep decision that I hope every single one of you make because for every single one of you, there are a couple thousand students that wish they could speak out like you do.

01:39:30.000 And courage is a choice.

01:39:31.000 We are no longer going to accept comfortable losing.

01:39:35.000 We are no longer going to accept excuses from our elected officials.

01:39:41.000 We have more combined political power than they have ever allowed us to believe.

01:39:46.000 We are the party of people that shower before work and shower after.

01:39:50.000 The people that get their hands dirty, the people that protect our streets, the people that have built this country.

01:39:59.000 What can I do to save the country?

01:40:00.000 You answer that question every single day.

01:40:02.000 You are doing the work to save this beautiful republic.

01:40:06.000 You are doing something that is bigger than you.

01:40:14.000 America is the greatest country ever to exist, period bar none.

01:40:17.000 Is the greatest country ever to exist, right?

01:40:31.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - April 29, 2026

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