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00:01:44.000I think it's the fact that he comes up with really innovative policies and stands behind them in a way that I don't think we see very often from Republican politicians.
00:01:52.000He doesn't fold at the first sign of criticism or when he gets any pushback.
00:01:58.000And so I think that we're just not used to seeing that, especially from a governor.
00:02:03.000I think that we saw some of that with Trump, but what DeSantis is doing is very different because it, you know, just governing in that way is a different animal than just talking like that.
00:02:15.000Yeah, it's just, it really is the question of what kind of importance is the ability to communicate to a population.
00:02:21.000I mean, I travel all across the country and everyone loves DeSantis.
00:02:27.000And they love him because of his boldness and his courage.
00:02:29.000But, you know, if he just kind of was unable to really talk well and did all those things, you got to wonder if he would still get the same sort of coverage.
00:02:37.000And again, I don't even know if it's the talking so much as the action of not getting off his hand and just kind of like standing behind what he's doing.
00:03:40.000I got to Florida in January, definitely wanting him to run for president, but now that he's my governor, I kind of want to keep him my governor for a while.
00:03:48.000But look, yeah, I think he's positioned really well to run for president.
00:04:25.000So what I always say is, you know, the people that you have to worry about are the ones who moved here there before Ron DeSantis, the ones who moved there a decade ago for the weather and the taxes and whatever.
00:05:11.000Even the people sort of that I have met that have been on the left, again, who did not get there in the last two years, own guns, defend gun ownership.
00:05:18.000It's a completely different situation.
00:05:21.000So what other stories are you looking at and working on?
00:05:24.000So I still write a lot about New York.
00:05:27.000I still love New York, but they're masking toddlers to this day.
00:05:30.000I have a story in the New York Post today.
00:06:14.000And I mean, just the fact that, you know, now when the vaccine does hit for them, you must get it for your two to four-year-old or is that right?
00:07:32.000I still have a lot of family in New York.
00:07:34.000I definitely don't want to see it be a collapsed city, but it's, it just, it's in a bad place and it doesn't show any signs of heading in a better direction.
00:07:41.000And I don't see who the leadership will be that will dig New York out of this hole.
00:07:47.000I mean, and Eric Adams, I just, he's doing, I don't think he's improved anything opposed to Basio.
00:08:02.000There was a piece by one of my colleagues in the post this week by Steve Cozo about how Florida sucks and how New Yorkers who move there will be back in Florida.
00:08:42.000He's a food writer who actually vacations in Florida quite a bit and writes about the restaurant scene there because the restaurants are, you know, a hot thing in Florida.
00:08:51.000And yet he wrote this ridiculous piece.
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00:13:31.000And so what Abigail writes is, you know, for a lot of the kids who will be prescribed these drugs, they will have really lifelong problems, especially around, you know, sex and love relationships.
00:13:57.000Well, you know, they get bombarded with this message that if you're not okay with your child being a they, you, you're risking them committing suicide, which is, you know, something that's.
00:15:17.000Why aren't the feminists realizing this?
00:15:19.000It's the last gasp of a dying civilization when you're so focused on gender, your currency is worth nothing, and you let a bunch of people in from other countries.
00:15:28.000And you declare war on other countries and send $40 billion to Ukraine.
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00:16:31.000What do you have to do to become a vlogger?
00:16:33.000I mean, pretty much just film yourself and put it on the internet.
00:16:36.000It's a very low bar, which is why I try to avoid it.
00:16:38.000And usually what you're filming is like putting on makeup or you just doing pranks, bro.
00:16:44.000Yeah, I mean, the thing that when I talk to younger audiences, when I know we have a societal problem, is when I ask them, what do you want to do when you grow up?
00:16:52.000They're like, I want to be an influencer.
00:17:44.000And I do YouTube videos as well as write some articles.
00:17:48.000I like to talk about politics and culture and the way that the two intersect, which I think, you know, politics is downstream from culture.
00:17:55.000And I think for the longest time, the right was losing young people because we were so focused on politics and not on culture.
00:18:01.000And I wish I could just throw Thomas Soule's basic economics at a young person and have them be a conservative, but we know it doesn't work like that.
00:18:09.000So a lot of different ways we can kind of venture through this conversation.
00:18:13.000What are stories that are really getting you fired up that you're going to talk about with our audience or that you think that people should know about?
00:18:21.000Well, the panel that I'm speaking at today is about media influencing or just how they've really, I guess, co-opted the narrative of what it means to be a woman.
00:18:29.000And they've essentially politicized an entire gender.
00:18:31.000I think it's great that there's an entire event dedicated to young conservative women because I feel like, you know, the left has done a really great job convincing women that their identity is really to be progressive, to be a leftist.
00:18:45.000When you look at the actual fruits of feminism, though, what women are unhappier than they've ever really been in modern history under feminism, our families are suffering if we're even having them at this point.
00:18:55.000It's just, it's not been a good role for women lately.
00:18:58.000And still the media perpetuates this myth that, you know, conservative women either don't exist or they have internalized misogyny or they've been brainwashed or you name it.
00:19:09.000Yeah, so why, I mean, feminism is kind of this remarkable walking contradiction lately.
00:19:14.000It all depends on what you define of first wave, second wave, third wave, whatever.
00:19:17.000But generally, feminism is rooted in hatred of men and kind of just like the overemphasis of.
00:19:22.000Yep, Miss Andrew, I think that's fair.
00:19:23.000Yeah, so we've kind of lived under that construct for the last couple decades, I guess, say.
00:19:30.000And we now have like incredibly miserable people that don't have children and are not married.
00:19:36.000And the patriarchy, if it ever existed, well, that's not going well.
00:19:40.000Well, I mean, I think the one hope that I have for like womanhood is that feminism has ironically destroyed what it means to be a woman.
00:19:47.000So my only hope is that the Leah Thomases of the world do better with womanhood than those of us who essentially let feminism, this political movement, really chip away at what it means to be a woman and what makes womanhood special or desirable or I guess aspirational.
00:20:04.000So, yeah, I mean, I guess politically and otherwise, or even culturally, where do you think we are?
00:20:10.000I mean, do you think conservatives are finally starting to take some ground and some terrain?
00:20:13.000I think culturally it's starting to go that way.
00:20:16.000You know, I'm not saying that the average person is more likely to, let's say, support a flat tax than before, right?
00:20:25.000Because like those types of things, they're really more policy oriented.
00:20:27.000It's not necessarily a thing that's going to change overnight in pop culture, but I think we are starting to at least see a rejection of leftist principles, especially the far left.
00:20:35.000Because what we have in Hollywood, especially now, it's not just left-wing, which the entertainment business has always been.
00:20:40.000It's actually far-left identitarian politics, which people are now getting sick of.
00:20:44.000You know, we see that in a rejection of like, get woke, go broke.
00:21:43.000Fast forward, like six years later, now we have the White House coming out in favor of gender affirming care for children.
00:21:49.000So like actual like chemical castration for children.
00:21:52.000So slippery slope is slippery and it's very fast.
00:21:56.000And I guess I never would have been able to predict that it would have snowballed this fast, but they've done a great job.
00:22:04.000I guess the left specifically has done a great job almost like astroturfing this movement and convincing everybody like, okay, now there's 700 genders.
00:22:12.000And it's always been this way, actually.
00:22:22.000And so, yeah, I guess it's, I see more and more people waking up to it, but there's this hesitancy for people to engage on it because they want to be liked and they want to be considered.
00:23:03.000And I think he has a way of talking about it that is pretty rational and reasonable and convincing.
00:23:08.000And so I think here's an important component to this, though, is that some people are under the assumption still that, oh, who cares what you do with your body?
00:23:24.000It was a shortened week as Memorial Day.
00:23:26.000Where we talked about the country that I grew up in, I was naive enough to believe that these people would leave us alone as long as they got, you know, chop off their genitals.
00:25:06.000Yeah, they're removing custody from parents who don't want their kids to transition.
00:25:10.000We are well past a live and let live situation.
00:25:13.000Yeah, and it was the great, I mean, we have an expression that we've been, it's like, it started as live and let live, but it's really live and let them rule.
00:25:27.000I think you said it best, the proper word for this is reciprocity, right?
00:25:31.000So we can live in a free society if both sides kind of have a detente and they're willing to kind of just allow kind of maxims to go without overjudgment or whatever.
00:25:41.000And what's hilarious is that conservatives are the ones that are still trying to live in that country.
00:26:20.000And I mean, if nothing else, I think this is a good example of why conservatism was really, I mean, dead amongst our generation for the longest time.
00:26:38.000And so that might be an unintended consequence.
00:26:41.000And you're speaking to our young women's deal just momentarily.
00:26:44.000And you'll see that the kind of intensity these young ladies have for these gender issues and stuff, it's like the shackles are kind of off.
00:27:03.000And if I would have taken a poll, and I think it'd be an interesting poll to take actually, of kind of, do you support gay marriage or whatever, just as a guess, five or six years ago, majority would have been like, yeah, I'm fine with it.
00:27:23.000And I think even like myself, when you mentioned stuff like gay marriage, it's like, oh, yeah, well, I don't really care if they get married, like, you know, government is whatever.
00:27:29.000I don't really have a big problem with it.
00:27:31.000But I think, you know, that argument of why it should be legal, that was really the first step in kind of opening the door up into all of this we're seeing now.
00:27:39.000Yes, it's, it was, and I would, we were, I was so naive.
00:27:42.000And I just thought, I mean, you were ahead of me on the gender video and stuff, but like thinking that somehow that they were going to stop.
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00:34:26.000You know, the baby is the cutest thing ever.
00:34:28.000I have to actively stop myself from like sharing photos on social media and boring people.
00:34:33.000But the whole my birth story kind of came at a really interesting point politically because we are very much talking about Roe versus Wade and the issue of abortion up until birth is for some reason up for discussion.
00:34:47.000And I remember like I was like in the hospital still and there were people who were pretty much arguing like, oh, well, it's a woman's right to be able to, you know, end this baby's life.
00:34:56.000And I had just delivered and it's, it was crazy to me.
00:35:40.000The answer was to induce and deliver the baby, not abort, i.e., murder the baby.
00:35:45.000Like we are talking about, I believe life begins at conceptions, but at the very least, we should be able to agree that, okay, if the thing is viable, this is a human life and there's no justification for ending it.
00:35:56.000Yeah, and it's just the whole premise of the pro-abortion argument is that life is a burden and that the strong should be able to dominate the weak and that we have no moral obligation to protect those that can't protect themselves.
00:36:06.000Yeah, and it's funny because I've grown up kind of all over the place.
00:36:36.000So it's in the United Kingdom, they have stricter abortion laws than we do federally, but they also don't have a pro-life movement like we do.
00:36:46.000Like they don't have like pro-life advocacy, even close to what we have.
00:36:50.000So that's why I think the reversal and repeal of Roe versus Wade will be great because it sends it back down to the states as a first step.
00:36:58.000And I think it's kind of interesting the way the media has framed Roe versus Wade because I swear a lot of the women who are marching for the right to abort their own offspring believe that Roe versus Wade will institute pretty much the handmaid's tale government, which is absolutely not the case, like you were saying.
00:37:14.000And I've even, you know, I've been listening to even the young Turks, Jenk Uger, for all of his faults.
00:37:18.000He actually was surprisingly honest in talking about Roe versus Wade and saying that, yes, there are even pro-choice legal scholars who admit that Roe was not a good legal ruling because right, because it's just not in the Constitution.
00:38:21.000And so you're speaking momentarily at our Young Women's Leadership Summit, and you're living in Nashville, and you're going to come out with a book at some point.
00:38:28.000It's like the obligatory thing you have to do.
00:38:30.000Oh, I'm going to try to grapple the baby, wrangle the baby a little bit more, and then maybe, maybe a book.
00:38:36.000But I feel like I would throw a curveball and it would just be straight up fiction.
00:38:38.000Like not anything to do with politics, just like zombie apocalypse.