The Charlie Kirk Show - A Tale of Two Presidents in New York

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.

00:00:00.000 A massive fundraiser in New York contrasted with Donald Trump going to a different part of New York.

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00:00:32.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:30.000 Every time they say democracy, they mean oligarchy.

00:01:35.000 An oligarchy is a small group of interchangeable parts that run a country or a civilization.

00:01:43.000 It is not about the will of the people.

00:01:45.000 It's not about consent of the governed.

00:01:47.000 An oligarchy is exactly why this document was fought for, the United States Constitution. 0.58

00:01:56.000 If you were ever able to challenge these people, say, what exactly is small D Democratic about what the current ruling class is trying to do?

00:02:06.000 It's not about making people's lives better or securing the country.

00:02:10.000 It's about holding on to political power.

00:02:14.000 Now, there's two ways to read what happened yesterday.

00:02:17.000 The first of which is that the Democrats are going to be able to raise as much money as they like.

00:02:22.000 That's a serious issue.

00:02:24.000 We're outgunned.

00:02:25.000 We're going to be outspent.

00:02:26.000 They have more full-time people on the ground.

00:02:28.000 And I am underwhelmed by the lack of urgency on the right to fix this problem.

00:02:34.000 We're doing our best at turning point action.

00:02:36.000 We are putting our energy and our money where our mouth is.

00:02:39.000 This week, we hired our first class of full-time ballot chasers in Arizona.

00:02:45.000 So it's a big deal how the Democrats are able to easily raise money.

00:02:49.000 The second part, though, is you don't get Bill Clinton, Obama, Stephen Colbert, Lizzo, Queen Latifah together unless you're very worried, unless you're paranoid.

00:03:03.000 You only go all out that early.

00:03:06.000 If you believe that your grip on power is weakening, and it is weakening. 0.98

00:03:14.000 Joe Biden being a traitor to the United States, a sick and evil man who is destroying the country on a daily basis, had to call in the big guns. 0.98

00:03:26.000 He had to call in Barack Hussein Obama, had to call in Bill Clinton. 0.97

00:03:29.000 And it's amazing to me that Bill Clinton still is allowed in public Democrat circles, a man who has been involved in such suspicious, illegitimate, and evil activities when it comes to women.

00:03:42.000 He still gets platformed.

00:03:43.000 The women are cheering like crazy when he comes out.

00:03:46.000 And they called in the big guns.

00:03:50.000 And you contrast that perfectly tailored Hollywood production.

00:03:55.000 All the star power, all the money, all the high production value, all the institutional support with a movement.

00:04:06.000 You have a synthetic oligarchy and a machine versus a movement.

00:04:11.000 Donald Trump did not spend his time hobnobbing with celebrities, billionaires.

00:04:18.000 No, Donald Trump went out of his way to go to Long Island yesterday, to go to a funeral of a police officer that was murdered in cold blood, who never should have been murdered, and was killed by someone who never should have been on the streets, but was released after 21 prior arrests.

00:04:37.000 Joe Biden and Barack Obama and Bill Clinton literally are coming from the bottom stage as if they're being lifted up from Dante's Inferno, as Steve Bannon would say, the first circle of hell.

00:04:50.000 And just the aesthetic of it.

00:04:51.000 Can we play it?

00:04:52.000 Just the dark red colors.

00:04:55.000 This is not a movement of joy and happiness.

00:04:58.000 Everything is cruel, heavy, dark.

00:05:03.000 It's not building a better tomorrow.

00:05:05.000 It's give us political power or else we might visit your home.

00:05:10.000 We might raid you.

00:05:12.000 But the Democrats have an ongoing serious problem.

00:05:17.000 Number one, they lost the messaging war yesterday.

00:05:21.000 Yes, they raised a lot of money, and that needs to be taken seriously.

00:05:25.000 The boring stuff is going to matter.

00:05:29.000 Who has the ballot chasers? 0.64

00:05:30.000 Who has the voter registrations?

00:05:32.000 Who has the data?

00:05:34.000 The information war is also important.

00:05:36.000 And the Democrats lost the information war yesterday.

00:05:40.000 While Joe Biden was ascending from the pit of hell with Obama and Bill Clinton, Donald Trump was consoling a mother and a baby whose lives will never be the same because Democrats have opened the prisons, because Democrats have allowed these criminals to run rampant.

00:06:05.000 Crime is up since 2019 across the country.

00:06:09.000 Murders, rapes, carjackings, killing of police officers.

00:06:13.000 There is another element, though, that is very important, and we cannot lose sight of it.

00:06:19.000 Under normal circumstances, a Democrat oligarchy coming to New York would be met with people outside of the New York City Radio City Music Hall wanting to get in.

00:06:34.000 Typically, if you have Obama, you got Bill Clinton, you got Lizzo, you got Stephen Colbert, there would be thousands of people wanting to get into the New York City music hall.

00:06:49.000 There was a crowd last night.

00:06:53.000 There was a big crowd last night, but they didn't want to get in to go support Obama and Clinton.

00:07:01.000 They did not want to go in there to go get a selfie with Colbert.

00:07:04.000 Outside were thousands of Arab Muslim Gaza protesters clamoring against Joe Biden, saying, we will never vote for Joe Biden because of what's happening in Gaza.

00:07:20.000 We will never vote for this administration.

00:07:24.000 Now, some of them actually got in.

00:07:26.000 Now, imagine paying for tickets just so you could heckle three presidents, and some of them got in.

00:07:32.000 And it really is a tale of two presidents in New York.

00:07:35.000 One of them hosted a snobbish, swanky fundraiser that went from a couple hundred dollars a ticket for the cheap seats to $500,000 a ticket.

00:07:51.000 Obama, Clinton, Lizzo, and Colbert.

00:07:54.000 And the other attended the wake of a slain New York police department officer comforting his family and paying respects to the fallen, Jonathan Diller.

00:08:04.000 It's not just that it was two presidents and two different campaigns.

00:08:11.000 Dare I say, that's a picture of America.

00:08:15.000 The rich and the powerful celebrate while the muscular class struggle to pay their bills.

00:08:24.000 This is why Donald Trump is ascendant.

00:08:27.000 And regardless of what they throw at him, he is going to be very formidable in November.

00:08:35.000 That we have to make sure that Donald Trump reaches his ceiling, but his basement is built in.

00:08:41.000 It is bulletproof.

00:08:43.000 Because people, and I share this view, are repulsed by Obama and Biden and the $500,000 a ticket event at the Radio City Music Hall.

00:08:59.000 $26 million.

00:09:00.000 Look how great we are.

00:09:02.000 Meanwhile, you, the working class, you're wondering what's happening to your beloved country.

00:09:07.000 Not a whisper about the border.

00:09:09.000 Not a syllable about the invasion happening, about how we're borrowing a trillion dollars every 100 years.

00:09:17.000 It looks as if the good times are flowing.

00:09:21.000 We borrow a trillion dollars every 100 days.

00:09:23.000 The good times are flowing at the Radio City Music Hall in New York.

00:09:28.000 It wasn't just a tale of two campaigns and two presidents, but of two Americas.

00:09:35.000 One America that cares about the working people, that cares about the individuals who built this country.

00:09:41.000 The other America that wants fundamental and permanent transformation.

00:09:46.000 Transformation from the top down, whether you like it or not.

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00:11:48.000 President Trump went to Long Island.

00:11:50.000 He didn't do the easy thing.

00:11:51.000 He could have stayed at Mar-a-Lago.

00:11:52.000 Play Cut 127.

00:11:54.000 They're not given the respect.

00:11:55.000 The police are the greatest people we have.

00:11:57.000 There's nothing and there's nobody like them.

00:11:59.000 And this should never happen.

00:12:01.000 I just visited with a very beautiful wife that now doesn't have her husband. 0.99

00:12:07.000 Stephanie was just incredible.

00:12:09.000 Their child, brand new, beautiful baby, sitting there innocent as can be.

00:12:16.000 That doesn't know how his life has been changed.

00:12:20.000 But the Diller family will, you'll never be the same.

00:12:24.000 You can never be the same.

00:12:26.000 And we have to stop it.

00:12:27.000 We have to stop it.

00:12:28.000 We have to get back to law and order.

00:12:29.000 We have to do a lot of things differently because this is not working.

00:12:33.000 This is happening too often.

00:12:36.000 A plus.

00:12:37.000 Everything about that was A plus.

00:12:39.000 Number one, it wasn't far from where the unholy Thursday secular humanist group therapy celebration was happening in New York. 0.55

00:12:51.000 It wasn't far from that.

00:12:52.000 So you kind of got a very, it just built into this idea of a contrast.

00:12:56.000 If Donald Trump, for example, would have went to Tennessee, it just would have, it would have been harder to draw those two together.

00:13:03.000 But two presidents go to New York.

00:13:05.000 Number two, the optics were terrific.

00:13:07.000 Flanked by police officers.

00:13:09.000 Number three, going to a funeral.

00:13:11.000 That's tough stuff.

00:13:13.000 They wanted him there, by the way.

00:13:15.000 Number four, Donald Trump obviously has genuine roots in New York, so it's not a forced deal.

00:13:20.000 Number five, Donald Trump is acting magnanimously to a state that is trying to take his business empire away from him.

00:13:29.000 This is a state where they host the fundraiser, 5,000 people, $26 million raised.

00:13:37.000 And Donald Trump still goes out of his way to return to his home state of New York to honor that family.

00:13:43.000 He went the extra mile to even help pay off the mortgage for that slain policeman mortgage.

00:13:48.000 Hey, Joe Biden, you raised 26 million bucks last night.

00:13:50.000 Are you going to use any of that money to help pay for this poor family?

00:13:54.000 No, because Joe Biden and the Democrats, they're on the side of criminals, opening up the jails, relaxing standards because they say all that stuff is racist.

00:14:04.000 While they get to live in gay communities and have 24-7 armed guards, you have to fend for yourself while murders, rapes, arsons are up significantly from 2019. 0.98

00:14:15.000 And by the way, while we're on the topic, Joe Biden, have you paid back the $5 million that Sam Bankman Freed gave you now that Sam Bankman Freed is a convicted fraudster?

00:14:24.000 Have you paid that back?

00:14:26.000 Joe Biden, have you spoke out at all about how this illegal immigrant has now been arrested for the rape of a mentally incapacitated girl in Alabama? 0.97

00:14:33.000 Every day, we have a new story of an illegal that is raping or murdering an American here in the country.

00:14:39.000 Or Joe Biden, are you just going to sit on that $26 million of cash and try to continue to run ads saying, I'm Joe Biden.

00:14:45.000 I'm going to protect abortion access. 0.97

00:14:47.000 You're repulsive. 0.99

00:14:48.000 Play cut 82. 1.00

00:14:50.000 This morning, an illegal immigrant man is behind bars accused of raping a mentally incapacitated teen.

00:14:56.000 Enterprise police arrested Pablo Mendoza after getting word of a crime happening last month.

00:15:01.000 Sheriff Scott Byrd confirmed to WDHN that Mendoza is in the United States illegally.

00:15:07.000 Authorities say that Mendoza had sex with a teen, and the teen could not consent due to her being, quote, physically helpless or mentally incapacitated.

00:15:17.000 So let's take a step back.

00:15:19.000 Let's analyze and judge the week.

00:15:22.000 Because if we're honest, let's think about it.

00:15:24.000 We got April, we got May, we got June, we got July, we got August, September, October.

00:15:29.000 We basically have 28 weeks.

00:15:33.000 Am I math right?

00:15:34.000 Yeah, seven months, 28 weeks.

00:15:37.000 We have 28 weeks till the election.

00:15:40.000 So this is going to be a combination of weeks.

00:15:43.000 This week was supposed to be a deathblow to Donald Trump.

00:15:48.000 I want you to think about this.

00:15:49.000 They thought that they would be able to taunt and troll Trump and enjoy the Radio City Music Hall $26 million event saying Donald Trump can't even hold on to his buildings.

00:16:01.000 I bet Stephen Colbert had all of these jokes written, ready to go.

00:16:05.000 On Monday, his business assets were supposed to start to be seized.

00:16:10.000 Instead, Donald Trump was able to get DJT up on the markets.

00:16:13.000 He's $5 billion richer.

00:16:15.000 He easily pays the bond.

00:16:17.000 He gets through with appeal.

00:16:18.000 Yes, the Democrats had a good day.

00:16:20.000 They raised a lot of money.

00:16:21.000 That is now baked in.

00:16:22.000 It's factored into the equation.

00:16:24.000 But at the end of this week, the Democrats, they look like a ruling class that is so distant, so foreign, and so disconnected from the country that they want to govern.

00:16:40.000 People, you know, use the term out of touch.

00:16:42.000 That is the proper term.

00:16:44.000 But the snobbery, the lack of concern, it is alien to them.

00:16:51.000 A week where they thought they were going to significantly weaken Donald Trump leaves him richer and stronger than anything they could have imagined.

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00:18:06.000 All right, so we had a conversation with Speaker Johnson yesterday.

00:18:09.000 I want to get into some of this tape.

00:18:11.000 As you know, we've been very critical of Speaker Johnson on a lot of different things, especially I think that he really fumbled the ball back in the fall.

00:18:17.000 The fall was the time to shut down the government.

00:18:19.000 The fall was the time to really draw a line in the sand.

00:18:22.000 But as things move in real time, you have to judge things fairly.

00:18:27.000 And I'll be perfectly honest.

00:18:28.000 With Kevin McCarthy, George Santos gone, Ken Buck, and Mike Gallagher, all of a sudden our margins are so thin that we got some problems here.

00:18:37.000 At the same time, I don't like that $1.2 trillion bill.

00:18:41.000 And to Speaker Johnson's great credit, he came on the program.

00:18:43.000 He was a really great sport.

00:18:45.000 And I want to play a piece of tape here.

00:18:47.000 And understand, you got these moderates like Don Bacon, who are basically Democrats controlling the entire apparatus here.

00:18:54.000 So I believe it is cut 122.

00:18:57.000 Let's go to cut 122.

00:18:58.000 This was the number one question I received from you, the audience, was all about this $1.2 trillion spending bill.

00:19:06.000 Let's play cut 122.

00:19:08.000 So I want to talk about the $1.2 trillion spending bill, which has been met with a lot of criticism, as you know, Mr. Speaker.

00:19:15.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene is going out and threatening motion to vacate.

00:19:18.000 She has criticized you by saying that regular order was not followed, the amendment process, and this was done very, very quickly and kind of rushed through.

00:19:29.000 I don't like the bill at all.

00:19:31.000 I think it was, quite honestly, awful.

00:19:34.000 Am I wrong?

00:19:35.000 Walk me through it, Mr. Speaker.

00:19:37.000 And was regular order followed in kind of response to what Marjorie Taylor Greene's been saying.

00:19:44.000 Yeah, great question.

00:19:45.000 Okay.

00:19:46.000 Look, the bill is not the bill that Mike Johnson and Charlie Kirk and Marjorie would have drafted, right?

00:19:51.000 If we had the majority in the House and Senate, we're having a totally different conversation right now.

00:19:56.000 And remember, we only have one vote margin in the House.

00:20:00.000 So there are some good things.

00:20:02.000 Let me tell you a few good things about it, and then we'll tell you all the terrible things, right?

00:20:06.000 So remember, 72% of this appropriations package was defense spending, okay?

00:20:12.000 We increased defense spending, which most of us understand why.

00:20:16.000 We're in a dangerous time.

00:20:17.000 The world's on fire because Joe Biden is projecting weakness on the world stage and all of our adversaries are acting provocatively.

00:20:23.000 We've got hot wars now and some that are eating up elsewhere.

00:20:29.000 We kept the non-defense discretionary spending completely flat in the body government.

00:20:36.000 We included the largest pay raise for our troops in decades and we cut a lot of things that needed to be cut, like $50 million in military DEI programs.

00:20:44.000 So we eliminated funding for UNRO.

00:20:46.000 We rescinded $20 billion of Biden's IRS expansion.

00:20:50.000 We pulled back $6 billion in unused COVID funds.

00:20:53.000 I mean, there were some good things on the border regarding that issue.

00:20:57.000 This bill increased the baseline for DHS enforcement when Trump takes over in January.

00:21:02.000 I mean, if we're going to actually arrest and detain these people and deport them, you got to have a place to put them.

00:21:08.000 So we squeezed into this bill the highest number of ICE detention beds and border patrol agents in history.

00:21:13.000 Wow, we cut 20% from the NGOs, which are all the groups that are sending them all around the country.

00:21:18.000 There's a lot of good things.

00:21:19.000 We maintained all the Hyde Amendment protections, pro-life protection.

00:21:23.000 Not a red cent can be used in taxpayer funds to fund an abortion.

00:21:28.000 We allowed for only American flags and other official flags to fly over U.S. diplomatic facilities and more rainbows and everything else.

00:21:34.000 So look, there's some good things in it.

00:21:36.000 But there's some bad things too.

00:21:37.000 The earmarks are the things that have gotten all the attention.

00:21:40.000 And there's a number of them in here that none of us wanted and we fought hard to keep out.

00:21:44.000 And as I told you offline, I was literally fighting with Chuck Schumer up until 11:58 p.m. on that Wednesday night, last Wednesday, because that was the deadline to file the legislation to give everybody not the full 72 hours that we always try to abide by, but at least time to go through the thousand pages with their staff, section by section, and be able to digest what the legislation was.

00:22:07.000 You asked about the process, critically important thing.

00:22:10.000 Look, if we could have pushed it beyond the deadline, we would have.

00:22:15.000 We would have even maybe shut the government down for a day or two.

00:22:18.000 But the problem is, because you're coming up on Easter break, I mean, this is the truth of the matter.

00:22:22.000 We were going to have a jail break by Saturday morning.

00:22:25.000 And I followed up with this, because I'm not a DC guy.

00:22:29.000 I'm like you.

00:22:29.000 Shut it down.

00:22:31.000 That's how I feel.

00:22:33.000 So I asked that question.

00:22:34.000 Why don't we just shut down the government?

00:22:39.000 Shut it down.

00:22:40.000 And this is how Speaker Johnson replied.

00:22:42.000 Play cut 123, please.

00:22:43.000 And Mr. Speaker, I understand this might be kind of heretical to DC belief, but why not just say we're going to shut it down?

00:22:52.000 I understand it's an election year.

00:22:53.000 I know you got the slimmest majority, but if we are not ever able to make good on the one threat that we have, which is a government shutdown, which is partial, is there anything that would potentially reach that level of a shutdown?

00:23:07.000 And since we have the slimmest majority and we're losing members to cable news sponsorships and palantir, what do we have to lose?

00:23:15.000 What is the argument not to shut it down considering the crisis on the border that I know that you want to address?

00:23:20.000 Yeah, it's such an important question, Charlie.

00:23:22.000 Every single one of us want to want to have the fight about the border.

00:23:25.000 It's like a 93% issue, by the way, with the public now.

00:23:29.000 But even if it wasn't politically popular, morally, constitutionally, we would be obligated to fight on it.

00:23:34.000 But here's the thing about the shutdown.

00:23:36.000 This scenario right now, given the dynamics and the reality that we talked about a moment ago.

00:23:41.000 If we had shut the government down, let's say on friday, the Biden administration would have made it extremely painful on the American people.

00:23:48.000 Immediately the media would have jumped on, piled on, of course, and blamed Republicans for missed paychecks to troops and and and and missed flights, when they stopped paying TSA agents and you know unpatrolled border sectors, you know they would have flipped the script and started to blame the border on Republicans for not not arming and equipping the people who are there trying to do what they do.

00:24:08.000 All the national polling confirms that a shutdown would have been very bad for Republicans and would have seriously jeopardized our ability to keep and grow our thin house majority.

00:24:17.000 I mean, we absolutely have to win in November if we're going to save the country.

00:24:21.000 So never once in history has a shutdown benefited the party that started it, the Republican Party.

00:24:26.000 It's only backfired every time.

00:24:28.000 The stakes are too high right now to have swing district voters turning against us.

00:24:32.000 And everybody needs to understand this, the reality that we talked about a few moments ago.

00:24:36.000 It would take a two-thirds vote to get out of a shutdown once it started.

00:24:40.000 So when all that pain was turned up and everybody's blaming the Republicans and people are getting more and more angry, we would have needed Democrat votes to reopen the government.

00:24:48.000 And the price for those votes would have forced us to accept a far worse policy outcome than the spending bills that we got now.

00:24:56.000 That is the reality.

00:24:57.000 It's inescapable.

00:24:58.000 You know, you'd have a big chunk of my dearest friends.

00:25:01.000 I mean, I come from the conservative movement myself.

00:25:03.000 I'm a hardliner myself.

00:25:05.000 A bunch of my friends would never join in the vote.

00:25:08.000 They reopened the government.

00:25:09.000 And so you could have had a prolonged, very difficult, very politically costly situation on our hands.

00:25:16.000 And that was just simply not an option that we could do.

00:25:18.000 And I think, Mr. Speaker, you can sympathize with my view and the audience's view, which is we have been hearing that excuse for 11 years.

00:25:25.000 November is super important.

00:25:27.000 And I want to see Republicans remain in the majority.

00:25:30.000 And God forbid, Hakeem Jeffries ever becomes Speaker.

00:25:34.000 But, you know, if we rewind the clock a little bit back to October, and I know you just got thrown back into this thing, that would have been a time to shut it down and fight.

00:25:41.000 We had more seats.

00:25:42.000 It's further away from the election.

00:25:44.000 And what I think we're flirting with, Mr. Speaker, is that our base is losing total faith in House Republicans, at least capacity to put up some form of a fight when it comes to spending, when it comes to the border.

00:25:57.000 And I want your just thoughts in response to that because our faithful, our audience, our base, they feel as if that Republicans go to D.C. just to kind of give the Democrats whatever they want.

00:26:10.000 I asked our audience ahead of this conversation, Mr. Speaker, what we want to ask, and they're fired up because they love the country.

00:26:16.000 And I believe you want what we want.

00:26:19.000 You were one of the more conservative members of Congress before you became Speaker.

00:26:23.000 Can you respond to that sentiment, which I think is a well-founded one that I share with the audience?

00:26:29.000 Charlie, I share it too.

00:26:31.000 You're right.

00:26:32.000 As I mentioned, I come from the conservative movement for 20 years before I was elected to Congress.

00:26:37.000 I was a constitutional law liberty defense litigator on the front line, but we defended religious freedom and thanks to life in the courts and our fundamental freedoms.

00:26:46.000 I worked for most of the conservative groups in the movement at one point or another, filing briefs for them in the courts and arguing the cases and all that.

00:26:53.000 So look, I come from that corner of the party and I'm with your audience.

00:26:58.000 I agree.

00:26:59.000 Now, here's the thing.

00:27:00.000 With the smallest majority in U.S. history, I cannot throw Hail Mary passes on every play. 0.97

00:27:04.000 I'd like to, but it's not a winning playbook.

00:27:06.000 It's three yards in a cloud of dust right now.

00:27:08.000 It's inch by inch up the field.

00:27:10.000 Now, look, we have to reform the way Washington works. 0.94

00:27:13.000 And we have plans to do it.

00:27:15.000 In fact, we just got FY24 done.

00:27:17.000 That's the spending bills we just passed.

00:27:19.000 We're directing our attention to FY25 right now.

00:27:21.000 We are going to force, with the tiny leverage we have, we're going to force more change.

00:27:27.000 We broke the omnibus fever and funding.

00:27:29.000 Now we're trying to break out into actually 12 separate appropriations bills.

00:27:33.000 We have an aggressive calendar to get that done way in advance of the end of the fiscal year this time so we can break some of this.

00:27:39.000 But when we get this, a larger majority, I mean, for goodness sake, give me at least two votes, right?

00:27:44.000 I think we can have a larger, sizable majority, not 25 or 30 seats anymore because of gerrymandering and redistricting, but we can have a bigger majority.

00:27:52.000 You get that, you get the Senate.

00:27:54.000 We're going to make big, radical changes.

00:27:57.000 I've talked to President Trump and all my colleagues about what that first hundred days looks like, and you will see approved right out of the gates.

00:28:03.000 I mean, aggressive changes to the regulatory state, the deep state, the bureaucracy that's turned on the people and weaponized against them, to the budgeting and spending process so we can get the debt under control, to all these things.

00:28:16.000 I mean, the border, all these big priorities for the country, and we've got to project strength on the world stage again.

00:28:21.000 Our core principles are what we're defending.

00:28:23.000 We're in a fight between two competing visions for the country.

00:28:27.000 And ours is the same guiding principle that made us the greatest nation in the history of the world.

00:28:31.000 We're going to fight for those.

00:28:32.000 And we're fighting for them every day right now.

00:28:35.000 You just don't see it in it highlighted because, again, the margins are so small.

00:28:40.000 That's the challenge.

00:28:41.000 Want your thoughts, your feedback, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:28:44.000 You can listen to the interview in its entirety at members.charliekirk.com and also later this weekend on the Charlie Kirk Show podcast page.

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00:30:07.000 I want to play cut 120 in just a second here.

00:30:10.000 The second most common question I received from you is, Charlie, what about this George Santos thing, the Ken Buck thing, the Gallagher thing?

00:30:19.000 Why can we not get control over our House conference?

00:30:23.000 That was a major question we received, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:30:29.000 And this is one of the big problems with this kind of house conference story.

00:30:34.000 And not all of it is on Speaker Johnson, you got to be fair, is that we had high expectations.

00:30:39.000 We thought we were going to get impeachment of Biden.

00:30:41.000 We thought that we were really going to get smoke and guns on a lot of this different stuff.

00:30:43.000 And there's been some wins.

00:30:45.000 We thought we were going to get spending cuts.

00:30:48.000 So why is it that our House majority is slim?

00:30:50.000 And to Speaker Johnson's credit, he came on the program.

00:30:53.000 He took the hard questions.

00:30:55.000 We don't have time to play this piece of tape, but you guys can hear it on the Charlie Kirk Show podcast page.

00:30:59.000 Fundraising is going very well.

00:31:02.000 And, you know, some of you guys are still, you know, let's just say, you know, a lot of people say, get rid of Johnson, get rid of Johnson.

00:31:11.000 Okay.

00:31:11.000 I mean, is he better than Hakeem Jeffries?

00:31:13.000 That is a question because we're one vote away from that.

00:31:16.000 Okay.

00:31:17.000 I do ask the question, though, why are we losing our House majority, play cut 120?

00:31:22.000 I want to talk about the kind of ever-evaporating House majority.

00:31:26.000 First, Santos, you voted against expelling Santos.

00:31:29.000 Was there anything that you could have done to prevent that motion from coming to the floor?

00:31:33.000 Or was that privilege in a sense where it had to go open to a vote?

00:31:37.000 And then additionally, Ken Buck disappearing, Gallagher disappearing.

00:31:42.000 It doesn't feel as if we have control even of our members to stay unified during this highly consequential time.

00:31:49.000 Yeah, you know, the big challenge right now is keeping the team together, right?

00:31:53.000 And let me say this, and I'll address each of those cases, but we have to keep our eyes on the prime.

00:31:58.000 I mean, we have the smallest majority in history, but that is going to change in November.

00:32:01.000 I am absolutely bullish on this election cycle.

00:32:04.000 We're going to grow the House majority.

00:32:06.000 I believe the Republicans are going to win the Senate and the White House as well.

00:32:09.000 I think President Trump is going to have a second term.

00:32:11.000 And he and I have been talking a lot about that.

00:32:12.000 We've got to be ready to govern, and we're going to turn this mess around 180 degrees, but we've got to get through this difficult valley to get to that other side.

00:32:20.000 And it doesn't help when people leave early, obviously.

00:32:23.000 I voted against the Santos expel motion.

00:32:27.000 It was privileged.

00:32:28.000 So some of the guys in New York brought that.

00:32:30.000 It was very important to them, you know, neighboring districts and all of that.

00:32:33.000 I tried to talk him out of it.

00:32:35.000 It was done anyway.

00:32:36.000 And so that special election, as you know, yielded a Democrat.

00:32:40.000 We might have foreseen that.

00:32:42.000 And I tried to stop it, but we were outvoted.

00:32:44.000 A privileged motion is allowed to go to the floor, even over the objection of everyone else.

00:32:49.000 So that's what happened there.

00:32:51.000 Ken Buck, you know, I guess has personal reasons for leaving early.

00:32:55.000 I've considered Ken a friend all these years.

00:32:58.000 We served in the House together for seven.

00:33:02.000 He's leaving early.

00:33:02.000 I've tried to talk him out of it.

00:33:03.000 He didn't give me a lot of notice.

00:33:05.000 He called me about 20 minutes before he made it public.

00:33:08.000 So it was not a lot of time for dialogue on that.

00:33:10.000 Gallagher is a colleague and a friend, a classmate of mine.

00:33:14.000 We served together.

00:33:15.000 He's done great work in Congress, you know, the select commission on China, Select Committee on China, for example.

00:33:22.000 I've encouraged him to carefully consider all his options to limit the time his seat remains vacant, including the idea of serving his full term out in some limited capacity.

00:33:32.000 But, you know, I'll have to, I'll leave it to him to explain all his reasons why he needs to depart before the end of the year.

00:33:37.000 But there is a caveat to that one that maybe people aren't aware of, but Wisconsin election laws is a little bit different.

00:33:45.000 And there's a big risk under that state's law that if Gallagher leaves before April 9th or after May 14th, there's a risk the Democrat governor there could push the special election back to fill the seat to a date that's even later than the November election.

00:34:01.000 And that would leave us with a vacancy at the start of the new Congress.

00:34:03.000 So there's a lot of calculation that's going into that.

00:34:05.000 But the point is, Charlie, my job is to keep this team together, to keep everybody rowing in the same direction so we can deliver and grow the majority because our mission is to save the country.

00:34:15.000 Without a Republican majority, we have no hope of doing it.

00:34:18.000 Here's my piece of feedback to that particular tape.

00:34:20.000 And I say this privately and publicly to Speaker Johnson.

00:34:23.000 You're being way too nice to these guys.

00:34:25.000 The people that you're calling friends are stabbing you in the back and they are destroying the House majority.

00:34:31.000 If Gallagher says that, well, that's okay, Mike Gallagher.

00:34:34.000 You'll never be invited to anything regarding the Republican Party again.

00:34:38.000 Done, period.

00:34:39.000 You'll be excommunicated.

00:34:41.000 In fact, we'll expel you.

00:34:43.000 Ken Buck gave you 20-minute notice.

00:34:45.000 You should pull his parking pass and say, no, I'm going to get an expulsion vote on the floor before you get to go become a CNN contributor.

00:34:51.000 You have to be willing to use political power against people who screw you over.

00:34:55.000 Way too nice guy in that sense.

00:34:57.000 And in some ways, you know, being a nice person, being kind is how he became Speaker because he was kind of the person who was really sweet to a lot of people.

00:35:04.000 But that sort of stuff has to be met with pure Machiavellianism.

00:35:08.000 We have a very important story here regarding our turning point USA chapter at SUNY Cortland.

00:35:16.000 So joining the program, we have a lawyer from the Alliance Defending Freedom, Matthew Hoffman.

00:35:23.000 We also have Gabriella de Lorenzo, TPUSA president at SUNY Cortland, and Megan Rothmond at SUNY Cortland TPUSA vice president.

00:35:33.000 Welcome all of you to the program.

00:35:36.000 This is a remarkable story.

00:35:38.000 Both of you, Gabriella and Megan, when you started the Turning Point USA chapter, they tried to target you.

00:35:46.000 They made you go through a 100-minute struggle session in public.

00:35:51.000 Let's start with you, Gabriella.

00:35:53.000 Gabriella, tell us the story.

00:35:56.000 So we were presenting our club to student senate, and it was no one really was paying attention to us is what happened.

00:36:08.000 They already had their biases about Turning Point.

00:36:10.000 They already had their, you know, they already had their decision made before we even got there.

00:36:16.000 And what made it worse was a faculty member, a professor, had gotten on the mic and he spread a hateful rhetoric about Turning Point USA and misinformation about it.

00:36:32.000 And at that point, it was just 70 plus people attacking us and there was nothing we can do at that point.

00:36:39.000 The decision was made.

00:36:41.000 So just either, Megan, why don't we throw this to you? 0.72

00:36:45.000 Why did you want to, why did you both of you want to start the chapter?

00:36:48.000 What led you to want to try and bring Turning Point USA to your campus?

00:36:53.000 Well, Gabriella actually reached out to me about becoming vice president.

00:36:57.000 And as soon as she like gave me the opportunity to become vice president, I just jumped on it.

00:37:01.000 I knew this was such a great organization and I knew I wanted to be a part of it.

00:37:05.000 And we wanted to bring something to the school that should be on campus.

00:37:09.000 I mean, it's an amazing organization and a lot of students love it.

00:37:13.000 So it's so important.

00:37:14.000 And by the way, I just hope everyone understands when you start a turning point group, you get targeted, you get ridiculed, you get isolated because of that.

00:37:22.000 Matthew Hoffman is with us from the Alliance Defending Freedom, great organization.

00:37:26.000 Matthew, you guys got involved.

00:37:28.000 How did the school, let's just say, I want to say break the law, but not follow the proper legal framework for the starting of a chapter?

00:37:38.000 And what did you guys at ADF do to help assist our amazing Turning Point USA students?

00:37:43.000 Yeah, thanks, Charlie.

00:37:44.000 The First Amendment is clear that universities cannot pick and choose which views they on campus.

00:37:49.000 They cannot discriminate against conservative views.

00:37:53.000 And by giving the student government the license to decide what groups can go on campus based on their views alone, the university violated the First Amendment.

00:38:04.000 It inhibited the Turning Point chapters and Gabriella and Megan's speech and associational rights on campus.

00:38:11.000 And that's unconstitutional.

00:38:14.000 So let me go back to Gabriella here.

00:38:17.000 Gabrielle, why did you persevere?

00:38:19.000 What was your immediate reaction to getting denied and what kept you going?

00:38:24.000 My immediate thought was after we got denied, I had turned to Megan at that point and I said, we're going to keep fighting.

00:38:31.000 We're going to keep going because it wasn't fair to us that there are other clubs on this campus who get to believe in what they believe in and get to hold events.

00:38:40.000 And just because people have different opinions than us, we weren't allowed to.

00:38:44.000 And I actually ended up going to Amfest and I spoke to you about the situation.

00:38:50.000 You told me, you said, don't take no as an answer, just keep going.

00:38:53.000 And I took that as more motivation to keep going.

00:38:56.000 Yeah, I mean, I remember meeting you and I hope everyone in the audience understands, watching and listening, these are the hope for the future.

00:39:03.000 This is what fighting looks like and not giving up.

00:39:06.000 Megan, what has the response on campus been from other students?

00:39:11.000 And talk about the kind of resolve it took to persevere as the administration tried to get in the way of starting the Turning Point USA chapter.

00:39:19.000 Well, we definitely face a lot of backlash because there are students that don't agree with the chapter, but we've also gotten a lot of positive feedback.

00:39:26.000 I mean, we had an interest meeting on Monday and we had 40 plus students come, which is really good for our first event.

00:39:32.000 And we've been getting a lot of like positive feedback from people who want to be a part of the club.

00:39:37.000 So we're definitely doing something right here because a lot of students feel like they're silenced and having the club on campus is allowing them to speak their voice like we are now.

00:39:48.000 That's so important.

00:39:49.000 And this is a lesson.

00:39:50.000 People follow courage.

00:39:51.000 Courage begets courage.

00:39:53.000 I want to throw it back to Matthew.

00:39:55.000 Matthew, can you speak broadly of anybody on campus that is experiencing this type of bias, how they can contact and work with ADF, and also how you guys are on an ongoing basis representing students' constitutional rights on campus?

00:40:09.000 Yeah, well, we encourage anyone, if you feel censored or discriminated against because of your speech on campus, to contact us at Alliance Defending Freedom.

00:40:18.000 Our website is adflegal.org.

00:40:21.000 And every day we see inquiries and we're helping out students to start a turning point chapter, to associate together, to bring great speakers to campus.

00:40:32.000 And it's just an unfortunate fact of modern life that the universities have become very intolerant to views that like Gabrielle and Megan's, that some disagree with.

00:40:41.000 And instead of debating those views or taking them on on the merits, they try to shut them down or prevent them from even coming to campus.

00:40:49.000 So we just at ADF want to stand beside those courageous students like Gabrielle and Megan to make a difference and inspire others on campus to do the same.

00:40:58.000 Gabriella, what happened with the administration since this controversy?

00:41:02.000 Has the professor apologized?

00:41:04.000 Have you guys received any apology?

00:41:06.000 No, we haven't.

00:41:08.000 Yeah, apology-wise, we haven't received any apologies like directly from the professor or from the president.

00:41:15.000 But Matthew can answer like the rest about, you know, what was what was accepted like throughout the lawsuit and stuff like that.

00:41:23.000 Yeah.

00:41:23.000 And so I guess, you know, you guys are continuing to keep on fighting and organizing.

00:41:29.000 Final thoughts, both Megan and Gabriella, what are your pitch to other students watching this that are experiencing controversy or are afraid?

00:41:36.000 What is your message to them, to all the students across the country that are thinking about getting involved?

00:41:42.000 I just want to say that you're not alone at all.

00:41:45.000 There are other people on your campus who support you.

00:41:48.000 And if you get denied, it's okay.

00:41:51.000 Keep pushing, keep fighting, because we will lose our democracy if we don't have these conversations.

00:41:59.000 And it's a big problem that we see on our campus and how one-sided it has been.

00:42:04.000 I've been silenced on my campus since I was a sophomore and I just kept going and I just kept fighting.

00:42:10.000 And when you speak out, more people will back you and speak out with you.

00:42:16.000 You give other conservatives and other people who feel the same way as you a voice on campus and you empower them to speak out.

00:42:24.000 Well, Gabriella, and yeah, please, Megan, your thoughts.

00:42:27.000 I really hope that we can like inspire people who felt the same way, like hidden in the darkness, just to come out and make sure that you're feeling welcomed, you're feeling accepted on college campus because that's what college is about.

00:42:38.000 We hope that we open the door for people that feel uncomfortable to do what me and Gabriella did and just allow people to feel comfortable in college.

00:42:46.000 I think it's terrific.

00:42:47.000 We'll see both of you at our Young Women's Leadership Summit, I hope.

00:42:50.000 God bless you both.

00:42:51.000 And thank you, Matthew, for defending them.

00:42:53.000 Thank you all.

00:42:53.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:42:54.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:42:58.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:42:59.000 Everybody, email us as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.

00:43:02.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

00:43:06.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 29, 2024

A Tale of Two Presidents in New York

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