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00:01:36.000Yesterday ended up being a fairly eventful day, that it did, both with real events and the even more entertaining type fake events that happen in the media.
00:01:46.000So we are titling this first segment of the show, The Tale of Two Truths, because uh, President Trump really he he unfurled on a truth against some former supporters, including Tucker Carlson.
00:02:14.000Okay, well, we should, if you haven't seen it, we can't read the whole thing.
00:02:18.000It's pretty long, even for a Trump truth.
00:02:20.000But he does say he dropped this yesterday afternoon, somewhat out of the blue.
00:02:26.000At the start, it says, I know why Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones have all been fighting me for years, especially by the fact they think it is wonderful.
00:02:34.000For Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror, to have a nuclear weapon.
00:02:38.000They all have one thing in common low IQs.0.74
00:06:16.000Supportive of the president over the years and has turned on him.
00:06:19.000Alex's response to this, by the way, was that thank you for making it clear that I want nothing to do with you and I don't support you anymore, basically.
00:06:26.000I would put Candace in a completely different category of all of this, actually.
00:06:30.000But the end result is it's a bit of a distraction.
00:06:35.000But what did you think was going to happen?
00:08:02.000I think what this is a good reminder of is it is how the president approaches politics, which he.
00:08:08.000He can handle criticism on policy grounds, but there's a certain thing where President Trump is a guy who thinks through the language of dominance.
00:08:17.000He always wants it to be clear that he is in charge of the party.
00:09:08.000So just to put a fine point on it, he offered this other truth about the Haitian migrants.
00:09:13.000That we covered on the show yesterday.
00:09:16.000And I think that's an example of some of his best messaging domestically in recent memory.
00:09:22.000And of course, the Haitian migrant was not supposed to be in this country, was led in by Joe Biden, was given temporary protected status, and then bludgeoned a store clerk to death with a hammer.
00:09:33.000And President Trump went off on that.0.56
00:09:57.000President Trump, at his best, is railing against the abuses and the pillaging and the, yeah, just the abuses of this country of ours.
00:10:06.000And so he says an illegal alien criminal from Haiti who was released into our country by the worst president in history, Crooked Joe Biden, and the radical Democrats in Congress, just beat an innocent woman to death with a hammer at a gas station in Florida.
00:10:17.000The video of her brutal slaying is one of the most vicious things you will ever see.
00:10:25.000This animal was allowed to stay here because the Biden administration granted him and all Haitians temporary protective status.0.77
00:10:31.000A massively abused and fraudulent program, which my administration is working to eliminate.
00:10:35.000But deranged liberal district court judges are standing in our way.
00:10:40.000This one killing should be enough for these radical judges to stop impeding my administration's immigration policies and allow us to end this scam once and for all.
00:10:47.000To my fellow Republicans and frankly all common sense Americans, never forget that Joe Biden and the Democrat Party turned the United States of America into a dumping ground.
00:11:21.000I remember it happening so much in the first term.
00:11:23.000For example, when he had the crap hole countries quote that leaked.
00:11:27.000And it was the biggest story of the day because it was so offensive that he was saying, oh, we shouldn't have immigrants from crappy countries.
00:12:35.000They affect the base at a visceral level.
00:12:37.000It gets us fired up and we remember the carnage of the Biden years and we want to get out and make sure Republicans get elected to support that kind of policy.
00:12:57.000I think in 99% of cases, that's not worth doing because it's provoking a crisis when you have a friendly Supreme Court.0.88
00:13:04.000But as an example, this immigrant who just murdered this woman in Florida was a beneficiary of temporary protected status.0.70
00:13:11.000We have been trying to repeal temporary protected status on all these groups, and you repeatedly are having these district court judges, including in some cases, I think there's a Florida liberal judge who's been reversed by the Supreme Court.
00:13:23.000Over and over again on questions like this.
00:13:25.000And if you wanted to test the waters where it's worth taking a constitutional risk, it would be if we have a judge who's been reversed on the same thing by the Supreme Court two, three, four times, we're going to not let them block us from deporting some of these people.
00:13:40.000That might be a risk that's worth taking.
00:13:42.000And I think that's kind of where we're all at at the base.
00:13:44.000It's like if we're going to spend political capital and spend political will, messaging will, let's get it done on immigration deportations.
00:13:52.000I think it's the most important issue still.
00:14:16.000Several prominent male executives resigned from their powerful positions after this matter became widely politicized.
00:14:26.000Of course, this doesn't amount to guilt.
00:14:30.000But we still must work openly and transparently to uncover the truth.
00:14:37.000I call on Congress to provide the women who have been victimized by Epstein with a public hearing specifically centered around the survivors.
00:14:49.000Each and every woman should have her day to tell her story in public if she wishes.
00:14:56.000Then and only then we will have the truth.
00:15:01.000All right, so I think this is brilliant and I'll explain why.
00:15:29.000Well, then this puts the Democrats in defense because all they want, and I think this is very clear, is they don't want justice for the victims.
00:15:46.000And agree, in which case, that doesn't have nearly as much potency from a political standpoint, or they fight back and sort of show their cards that this has been a ruse the whole time just to get Trump.
00:15:57.000Now, what's interesting here is the reaction by the quote unquote survivors.
00:16:02.000They have come out and said, well, we've already done enough.
00:16:04.000We shouldn't have to do more, which is very interesting.
00:16:06.000Yes, they said there's about 15 of them, and they signed a statement.
00:16:10.000Survivors of Jeffrey Epstein have already shown extraordinary courage by coming forward, filing reports, and giving testimony.
00:16:16.000Asking more of them now is a deflection of responsibility.
00:16:41.000That Jeffrey Epstein was running an intelligence gathering operation, in my professional opinion.
00:16:47.000I do believe it was a honeypot operation.
00:16:49.000And I do believe that there is a list of individuals who did engage in trafficking, were given these plea deals, and I'm going to name those individuals right now.
00:17:05.000All of these women engaged in the trafficking of minors as adults.0.68
00:17:10.000They were working and complicit with Jeffrey Epstein's operation.
00:17:14.000And in my opinion, they are not to be given victim status because they did partake in harming young girls.
00:17:21.000So, those are people that have been given plea deals as if they were victims, but they were, in Ana Polina Luna's perspective, co conspirators because they helped traffic the young women to Jeffrey Epstein.
00:17:33.000Another name that's come up a lot is Haley Robeson, who sort of now notoriously spoke with Rokhana after the State of the Union.
00:17:40.000She's another one that's been named as potentially trafficking young women as well.
00:17:44.000So, this is a developing situation, and we are going to keep our eyes on it because there's a lot of moving pieces here, and the deck just got reset.
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00:19:36.000So there's controversy brewing at UVU, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but.
00:19:41.000Essentially, there has been a commencement speaker that has been chosen, and her name is Sharon McMahon, and she's been selected as the 2026 commencement speaker.
00:19:54.000Fill our audience in, Caleb, why this is causing a stir.
00:19:58.000And you've even issued a statement on behalf of the chapter there at UVU.
00:20:04.000So, two days or even a couple days after Charlie was assassinated, Sharon made a post on her Instagram.
00:20:14.000Sharon says so with a series of out of context quotes, basically tarnishing Charlie's name.
00:20:21.000And then, when she started to get a little bit of slack on that, she then deleted the post.
00:20:25.000And then, four days later, Made a very just underwhelming statement, kind of disavowing political violence by saying that political violence wants us hopeless, refusing to give us to give her that kind of power is its own kind of defiance.
00:20:40.000And that's all she said, mentioning political violence, Charlie's assassination.
00:20:45.000And it's just kind of, like I said in my statement, just disheartening that UVU would not even, I guess, do their research and bring this.
00:21:17.000Like, if you were a Charlie Kirk fan, you might not realize why there is so much backlash to posts eulogizing his death.
00:21:24.000And she says To many Americans, especially if you are black, LGBTQ, or Muslim, Charlie Kirk was not a person who engaged in good faith debates on college campuses.
00:21:34.000And she has quotes from him that she says are bad.
00:21:38.000The controversy is not about having a difference of opinion or preaching the gospel.
00:21:41.000It is about repeating bigoted ideas on a stage that reached tens of millions.
00:21:47.000It is important to remember that the incredible tragedy of a public assassination does not erase the harm many experienced from his words and the ensuing actions his followers took.
00:21:57.000I have no idea what she's referring to there, but she's suggesting he was some sort of hate violence monger.
00:22:03.000Free speech events where people got to the front of the line, and she says these are just a handful of examples after she had quotes from them.
00:22:12.000And to many, when they see people treating Charlie Kirk like a martyr, it seems like they are also endorsing these ideas.
00:22:19.000So, this is the woman who's going to be the speaker at UVU at the very campus where an assassin took his life.
00:22:25.000Uh, and that's what I'm kind of want to get into this, what you said there, Caleb.
00:22:31.000You said they didn't do their research, and I would probably presume to believe they did.
00:22:37.000Do their research and they don't want to be associated with this horrific event in a way or something, right?
00:22:45.000It's almost like an effort to distance themselves from some, I guess, some perceived alignment with Turney Point and somehow, or I'm not exactly sure what the psychology would be behind it, but I find it pretty gross.
00:22:58.000I want to kind of give your statement its due here because I think the final section is really well said because you say universities should welcome diverse viewpoints, platforming someone who treated a historic.
00:23:10.000And tragic political assassination, not as a moment to grieve, but as an opportunity to create content, is tone deaf and disrespectful to those affected, especially on this campus.
00:23:19.000There are countless better alternatives, amen.
00:23:23.000And the fact that the university is choosing McMahon is entirely disappointing to all of us still reeling from his loss.
00:23:28.000I couldn't be more disappointed in the university for such a hurtful and callous decision.
00:23:33.000Now, I saw you post this on social, and some of the comments below, I actually chimed in because it was so irritating.
00:23:39.000Some of the comments below said, Whatever happened to free speech?
00:23:43.000And my My reaction is, well, what about our right to free speech to be upset at this decision?
00:23:49.000Do you not understand that free speech, how it works, it's a two way street, folks?
00:23:52.000That, yeah, the university, sure, maybe they have the right to make a dumb decision, but you and your chapter members, us here at Charlie Kirkshire, we have our free speech to criticize how stupid that decision is.
00:24:10.000We're just highlighting just the poor slap in the face decision that UVU was making on just a slap in the face to us and the millions of other Americans who.
00:24:22.000Likes Charlie and wants to continue his voice.
00:24:25.000Like I said in my statement, there are millions of other possible speakers who they could bring, but the same school year that Charlie was assassinated on my campus, they bring someone who, days after he was killed, just tries to profit off misinformation.
00:24:44.000And by the way, we did a whole episode debunking basically every single one of those clips.
00:24:48.000I hadn't seen this Instagram post at the time, but it basically lines up one to one because everybody that wanted to come out after the assassination to take and cherry pick clips of his or quotes of his and use it to tarnish his legacy used the same ones.
00:25:05.000And there is a logical explanation for each one of those comments that he made.
00:25:56.000It's definitely a mixed presence on campus.
00:25:59.000The people who were there, the 6,500 people that were there during Charlie's debate, and the conservatives on campus are definitely upset.
00:26:09.000But of course, you get the other side of people who are celebrating the decision that UV was made to kind of rub it in Tony Point's face, I feel like.
00:26:18.000And so there's a bit of that conversation going on.
00:26:20.000But another thing that's disgusting is UVU has not addressed it.
00:27:35.000We want you to acknowledge the fact that your decision has been hurtful to our students on that chapter that lived through a tragedy none of them should have had to endure or witness.
00:28:21.000You're articulate, you're strong, you're morally clear, and you just are such a great representative for Turning Point students all across the country.
00:28:30.000You know, I'm sorry this is happening, but you're doing a great job.
00:28:34.000Continue on with the memorial in Charlie's honor, and we're grateful for you, man.
00:28:47.000And yeah, we don't want to cancel it, but it's just, we would have appreciated if you guys had, if the university had bothered to check what a person said about the most famous event to ever happen on their campus.
00:28:59.000I mean, again, I'm just going to say it.
00:31:36.000Listen to all the episodes starting all the way back in 2019.
00:31:40.000If you want, you can hear the humble beginnings of Charlie and I sitting in a conference room in California with just a microphone and a Zoom recorder getting our first episode up.
00:31:51.000And then I think the next one was Don Jr., our first guest.
00:32:21.000And then there is, of course, an update from Iranian parliamentary speaker who's saying the speaker of Iran's parliament says a ceasefire in Lebanon and release of blocked Iranian assets must occur before negotiations begin.
00:32:37.000Now, specifically, the Lebanon thing now is moving of the goalposts because our position, the United States position, is that.
00:32:46.000Lebanon was never included in the original ceasefire.0.90
00:33:07.000The other thing, though, is this blocked assets, right?
00:33:10.000That is another moving of the goalpost, which says to me that Iran feels that they have leverage in the negotiations.
00:33:18.000I think they could probably tell our domestic.0.78
00:33:20.000Vibe is that we want to move on and get out of this place, and they're playing us on that front.
00:33:25.000Yeah, they might either think that they can get extractions for the ceasefire or that it's possible they're banking that President Trump won't restart the war, even if they set tough conditions.
00:33:48.000But I will say that Iran probably is assessing our domestic vibe on the war and understands that it would be a political win for President Trump to get out of Iran.0.91
00:34:00.000I don't think that President Trump would hesitate to strike again.0.74
00:35:02.000It's a reminder of what we said, which is it is easier to start a war than to end it because starting a war only requires one person's approval or one country's approval.
00:37:13.000I like all of Trump's policies and I am a supporter, but when Trump attacks someone, then that person takes it to heart and they escalate with counterattacks.
00:37:21.000I've always said if he, the president, would just shut up and ignore the radicals, he would be better off.
00:37:27.000The more he personally attacks them, the more they hate him back.
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00:39:34.000Trump sacrificed and took a chance in Iran to solve two problems at once.0.77
00:39:39.000And another gentleman was saying that this is from Tory, age 34, from Washington State.
00:39:47.000How do people not see the complete double standard applied to podcasters who are allowed to say all manner of falsehoods, but Trump writes one tweet?
00:41:15.000It sounds like at least your husband is being supportive, reluctantly so.
00:41:20.000But I think everything has to start with you and your husband making a decision together.
00:41:24.000So, if you guys are not unified and aligned completely, then I would say that that's the first thing that needs to get dealt with because I will tell you everything that I've been through in the last seven months after what happened with Charlie, if my marriage wasn't good, if my family wasn't good, I wouldn't have been able to do any of it.
00:41:42.000I mean, it is your refuge, it's your source of strength.
00:41:45.000It's the place that you go to and you have peace when the world around you is chaotic and when people are hurling accusations and insults at you.
00:41:53.000You need your home front to be just completely secure.
00:41:56.000So, that's what I would say start there and.
00:41:59.000Once that's good, you guys can do whatever you want and accomplish whatever you want.
00:42:02.000But I commend your heart for wanting to be involved and to be a source for good change.
00:43:08.000And because my mom and dad had so often talked about these things and just always over communicated and were always on the same page, my mom looked at him and she said, Why is this even a question?
00:43:40.000It's God's design, it's the foundational building block of society for a reason because everything starts at the home.
00:43:47.000So, that's, you know, there's a thousand political questions that we could get into about how to do it or how to run.
00:43:53.000But the truth is, if you and your husband are good and you share the same vision and mission, you guys are going to be able to accomplish so much together.
00:44:02.000And I wouldn't worry about all the particulars at this point.
00:44:05.000Just worry if you and your husband are good.
00:44:50.000And You know, they're just going to want to start stir the pot like we see what the left does and Democrats.
00:44:57.000Because I'm seeing in my own area that Joe Morelli's my congressman, people are protesting outside his house to make him 25th Amendment Trump or end the war in Iran.
00:45:06.000But like nobody really understands why it's in there.
00:45:09.000And you did a really good job explaining it.
00:45:12.000And I know Blake has as well in the past, and Charlie did as well.
00:45:16.000Biden was somebody that really should have been 25th Amendment because his health was not good and they never did it.
00:45:22.000So, for them to use it now, okay, why didn't we do that when George Bush was president when we went to Iraq?
00:45:39.000Ultimately, when people bring up the 25th Amendment thing for a case other than Biden, where there really was serious evidence, that guy was not aware of what was going on.
00:46:49.000You got to tell me and look it up and research it what the crow's nest is at Augusta National and why it is one of the biggest traditions there is for this tournament.
00:46:59.000This is a cooler question before I'd probably just.
00:47:01.000Now you just go ask freaking Claude how to.
00:47:04.000I don't know this, and I love the Masters.
00:48:51.000Anyone whose name I have heard mentioned on the show or who I know is one of the staff, I keep a little list and I try to pray for you all regularly.
00:49:14.000And that is if any, I know you all have a much bigger staff than I'm aware of.
00:49:19.000So, anyone that would be comfortable, I don't know about privacy issues and everything, sharing their name, if I could get like an email of just kind of like the Charlie Kirk Show staff, Turning Point staff, Turning Point Action, that I would love to have.
00:49:35.000More names of all you guys to pray for.
00:50:33.000Usually, there was like a work thing or whatever.
00:50:35.000So, you have this kind of high powered person that you're sitting there meeting.
00:50:40.000And then Charlie would take the menu, and the waiter would come or the waitress would come, and he would go, All right, he would just take control of the entire thing.
00:50:49.000As soon as they came to be like, Do you want any drinks?
00:50:51.000And Charlie would be like, So, I want this.
00:51:35.000Yeah, he did mint chocolate ice cream on 4th of July and his birthday, although this last year he didn't do it because he was like, I can't.
00:51:44.000But I did see him at Tutti Santi back in, I think this was in August.
00:51:48.000We had dinner with Frank Turek and they brought out a cheesecake and the server forced Charlie to take a bite and he took a bite of the cheesecake.
00:51:55.000Oh, I actually, he told me about this.
00:51:57.000He was like, I can't believe he made me do that.
00:51:59.000Yeah, this isn't part of the question.
00:52:01.000But what I also love about his eating habits, as you say, he was a very kind of, Aggressive fast eater, most of the time.
00:52:07.000And I remember when we were in Korea, they kept having extremely slow meals.
00:52:34.000One of my favorite stories, though, and this just speaks to the president and who he is.
00:52:40.000Is the day of the Medal of Freedom at the White House when the president honored Charlie and gave him the Medal of Freedom?
00:52:47.000Erica had talked in her speech about how Charlie would have mint chocolate ice cream on his birthday and on the 4th of July every year, and how she's going to miss those traditions.
00:52:57.000And so that night, when everybody was kind of leaving the White House, somebody came up and said, You know, the president's requesting that Erica and her family kind of go to this side room.
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00:57:40.000So, if you guys in that Miami area are watching and you have People in mind, send their names.
00:57:45.000We'll send them straight over to our Turning Point Action team to vet and see if there's somebody that we can draft into this race last minute and take out an amnesty person, a pro border, open border person.
00:57:57.000I got like zero patience for this, by the way.
00:58:00.000Americans are sick of their country being a dumping ground.
00:58:03.000We're sick of it getting looted and taken advantage of.
00:58:06.000We want dignity in the American dream for Americans.
00:59:00.000So, we have regular listeners of the show back when Charlie was still with us know that Charlie was a huge reader.
00:59:06.000If my memory serves correctly, on one podcast episode, Charlie mentioned Walter Isaacson's biography of Elon Musk and how impactful that book was for him and how he studied it because he recognized that we should study the lives of great people.
00:59:19.000My question is and I recognize that it is early and these things take time can or when would we expect an in depth biography of Charlie?
00:59:29.000One that gives great insights into both his business and his personal elements of who Charlie was.
00:59:34.000He was a great man, and I think that his life deserves to be studied.
00:59:42.000I will say there are a number of books that have come out already or have been announced about Charlie's life.
00:59:48.000Not all of them are sanctioned by us, certainly.
00:59:51.000I will say, though, on the documentary front, Turning Point is working on one right now, and they've been flying around the country interviewing people that knew Charlie.
01:00:00.000Some of us have been interviewed for it.
01:00:02.000And that's in the works, and the team's working really hard on it.
01:00:05.000There's another documentary that we're participating in that's also, I think, going to be very, very important and good.
01:00:11.000I think that one's, I think, going to be a theatrical release.
01:00:15.000So there are at least documentaries that we're involved in that are coming out.
01:00:19.000But I think Kelsey's question is smart, which is there is something you can get from a detailed biography.
01:00:25.000What you'd want is, thankfully, a ton of people knew Charlie, a ton of people have stories about him.
01:00:31.000You'd really need to put in the legwork of you'd have to interview.
01:00:34.000Everyone involved with Turning Point, people in the admin who could talk about the influence he had.
01:00:38.000There's so many stories, obviously, supporters at Turning Point.
01:00:54.000Well, so Elon and Sam Altman are in a big lawsuit in Oakland about how OpenAI started as a nonprofit.
01:01:01.000Elon Musk and Sam Altman actually worked together on that to keep it open, to keep it a A gesture of goodwill to humanity that AI would be sort of a tool for good.
01:01:10.000They transitioned it to a for profit at some point, and now it's worth like almost a trillion dollars.
01:01:15.000So, Elon is suing OpenAI because, you know, basically he lost some of that money.
01:02:51.000I was working in Hollywood, and I was actually working with Mark Burnett and Roma Downey, the producers, Hollywood producers.
01:02:59.000And we started launching TV shows, and I got kind of wrapped into the comms world doing that.
01:03:04.000So we were launching, you know, they had all the faith programming like The Bible and 80 The Bible Continues and Ben Hur and all that stuff.
01:03:12.000In promotions, and you know, we'd go from you know, CNN and Jig Tapper to Fox to a church to the Christian Post, so we just kind of built up a big Rolodex of reporters launching those shows, and that kind of became another company that was a communications PR company.
01:03:32.000Eventually, we got to work with Charlie through that and then set up my own company so I could be more focused on Turning Point stuff and a few other clients.
01:03:40.000But it was Charlie, if you've ever worked with Charlie, you realize how much time he would kind of.
01:03:48.000So it just kind of one thing to the other.
01:03:50.000It was not intentional, I can tell you.
01:03:52.000Actually, I remember being in college thinking that the worst job possible would be PR and communications because you're just never able to take a break.
01:04:00.000I'm not sure that I still agree with that early notion of mine in college, but there is a truism to it that when you're in this business, you're constantly on because the news never stops.
01:04:15.000But I would say, as far as advice, advice would be.
01:04:19.000Find a comm shop that you like the work that they're doing, the clients that they have.
01:04:24.000And my advice I don't know how old you are, Mick, but my advice for all people trying to break into an industry is just make yourself easy to work with, make yourself accessible, make yourself affordable.
01:04:33.000Meaning, if you could do an internship for six months, just say, I will work for free for six months.
01:04:38.000I just want to prove my worth and I want to work harder than anybody else.
01:05:34.000We sorely miss Charlie Kirk out here, especially in California.
01:05:39.000He's making a big difference out here with some of the college kids.
01:05:42.000And I just keep hoping that somebody can take his place and really get out to these kids because they're just so clueless and they're so misinformed and uneducated.
01:05:51.000Even with my own two kids who were in college, they had no idea.
01:05:55.000They're like against Israel for some reason.
01:05:57.000We can't figure out why, my wife and I.
01:06:00.000And they just had no idea what Israel has gone through over the years, how they've been attacked and oppressed and everything.
01:06:06.000And all they do is see Israel as a, they're just causing mass genocide or whatever.
01:06:12.000And they don't understand what's really happening here.
01:06:16.000I just watched Fox News and listened to how these guys go out on the beach and ask them about Iran, these college kids, and they're clueless.
01:06:32.000Well, so, David, I mean, one of the things that people have to understand about what Charlie was able to do, and I think it sounds like you do understand it, is he would have these debates.
01:07:09.000And we're putting those on social media.
01:07:11.000A lot of people are seeing the clips, they're going viral as well.
01:07:14.000Not in the same way because it's not Charlie, but they are having a massive impact.
01:07:18.000And we've got lots of people that have volunteered to do those events and all across the country, college campuses all across the country.
01:07:26.000And so that's one thing you need to know about.
01:07:29.000And we're also doing Make Heaven Crowded.
01:07:31.000But in general, Turning Point is doing more tour stops than we have ever, ever done in a single semester.
01:07:36.000And that's going to continue into the fall.
01:07:38.000So I want you to know that we are still doing that work and we're trying to pick up the mantle, pick up the mic, if you will.
01:07:44.000But when it comes to Israel, and Blake, I know you have some thoughts here.
01:07:47.000There's a lot of voices that are driving that.
01:07:50.000And your kids are watching it on social media, they're hearing about it on campus.
01:07:54.000And if you look at the polling, Under what, like 40, under maybe even 50, Israel's underwater in a massive way.
01:08:00.000It's been, it's somewhat dark to think about because a lot of this shift, it did begin with 10 7, which was a very heinous terrorist attack, basically out of nowhere, while in an area that was peaceful and getting better.
01:08:15.000And that was always when I would talk with Charlie about it, we'd emphasize that point.
01:08:19.000This was an area where there wasn't a lot of war going on, where there were more opportunities for Palestinians.
01:08:24.000They were being allowed actually to go into Israel as guest workers.0.64
01:09:52.000They think it's a distraction from what they voted for.
01:09:56.000Well, yeah, and I would say, and I would love your input on this if you have some.
01:10:00.000No, yeah, I was just going to say the misconception that young people are clueless, I just push back on a little bit because we don't think this way for no reason.
01:10:12.000We don't question Israel for no reason.
01:10:14.000We're not fatigued with foreign policy for no reason.
01:10:17.000This didn't just kind of come out of the ether and we just decided to believe it.
01:10:21.000From the time we were born to today, there's been a conflict in the Middle East.
01:10:25.000From the time we were born to today with 9 11 and so on, there's been a war in the Middle East that's involved us and Israel.
01:10:34.000And then from the time we've been born to today, we've seen American troops die in the Middle East.
01:10:40.000We've seen families lose loved ones in the Middle East.
01:10:43.000We've seen billions of dollars go to the Middle East.
01:10:45.000And so now, as young people, it's not just singularly Israel, it's foreign policy as a whole.
01:10:54.000We're tired of seeing government money go elsewhere.
01:10:58.000When we may not even have an economic future for ourselves.0.70
01:11:02.000And I mean, you can look at all these charts of like how much of the actual economy is owned by the older generations and how much of it is going to end up being owned by young people.