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00:01:48.000And it's time to celebrate the grassroots.0.75
00:01:51.000It's time to celebrate the base conservatives that turned out and sent a very loud message across the country to rhino betrayal Republicans all over the country.0.80
00:02:04.000If you betray your base, if you do not do what the voters want you to do, guess what?0.65
00:02:24.000It's a huge congratulations to Blake Feicher, Jeff Ellington, Michelle Davis, Jay Starkey, Trevor DeVries, Dr. Brian Schmoltzer, and Tracy Powell.
00:02:36.000They are turning point action endorsed candidates that have won their.
00:04:02.000This is a big part of kind of East Central Indiana, just north of the Indianapolis suburbs.
00:04:09.000Right now, as it stands, our endorsed candidate lost by three votes.
00:04:14.000However, we believe that there's enough outstanding provisional ballots in the ether for us to be able to compete, especially after an automatic machine in hand recount.
00:04:24.000So, three votes right now, as it stands.
00:04:35.000So, if you guys would have told me, and think about it like, if you think some of the activists that were involved in that effort, or some of the people that maybe had a big impact on the race would have known ahead of time that this race was going to be decided by three votes, that they would have gone into it with a little bit different of a mindset.
00:04:53.000So, that's really the message that the grassroots should really take out of that effort these races really come down to every single door and every single nook and cranny of the district take this race.
00:05:05.000Learn from it nationally speaking, but we think that we can run through the tape here over the next couple days, especially after the recount hopefully goes in our favor.
00:05:13.000So, if that happens, guys, that's eight of nine races.
00:06:07.000And It doesn't matter how you answer them.
00:06:09.000But one, what are the consequences politically in a sense that what can we now get accomplished when it comes to redistricting and when in the state of Indiana?
00:06:20.000And two, what do you think the lesson is for establishment Republicans?
00:06:26.000Yeah, I think the message for establishment Republicans is that for the first time, you're really starting to see some kind of on the ground effort pair up with the accountability measures that we have in place at major organizations like Turning Point Action.
00:06:43.000I kind of joked before yesterday that I said, you know, hey, if we get seven, seven out of nine, this is going to be talked about in political science textbooks for decades to come.
00:06:52.000It's the ultimate accountability blast.
00:06:55.000You know, Trump says it himself, F A F O, that's kind of what we were able to do.
00:06:59.000I say that tongue in cheek, but that's really what we were able to do in Indiana.
00:07:03.000So, on a macro level, I really think that this sends a big signal to the rest of the conservative movement that the Overton window is shifting significantly to the right.
00:07:13.000And if you're an establishment Republican, That is refusing to adapt to the new brand of conservatism or just refusing to really stand up and fight for our president.
00:07:21.000That's really what it came down to in Indiana, a state filled with MAGA conservatives ran by Republican MAGA haters.
00:07:28.000That you are going to be left behind, that there will be an effort putting boots on the ground and maximum money and resources in place to protect the MAGA movement.
00:07:38.000So, specifically in Indiana, just to kind of wrap up the answer to that question, Andrew, the Indiana Senate, as it stands right now, has 40 Republicans and 10 Democrats.
00:07:48.000We couldn't even get 18 Republicans to vote in favor of the 9 0 redistricting map.
00:07:52.000So, we have a fresh opportunity now to try that again with some reinforcements, some really conservative reinforcements that love President Trump and understand the broader scale of things now in there in the state legislature.
00:08:04.000So, we will leave no stone unturned when it comes to a redo in Indiana.
00:08:28.000We've also talked about the need to just take a big, take a national, take a statewide view of your state because we've been frustrated when Charlie was campaigning in Nebraska a couple of years ago.
00:08:39.000He complained about it so much how they're all very fixated on their Nebraska rivalries, their beefs with other members of their party.
00:08:48.000And I think we saw a similar thing in Indiana.
00:08:50.000There's all these dramas, all these personality clashes that none of us are familiar with, none of us want to be familiar with, and most voters don't either.
00:08:58.000What they want is Lawmakers who are going to deliver what they care about.
00:09:02.000And, you know, we debated whether it was smart to do the whole, you know, start the redistricting fight.
00:09:06.000But this is a good example where once it happened, once Democrats were responding to it on their end, you just had a moral obligation to get aboard.
00:09:13.000Otherwise, it was just quitting on your team.
00:09:16.000Voters don't want Republicans who quit on the team, period.
00:09:44.000All right, Brett, I want to break this down.
00:09:46.000This concept of, let's just take Indiana as an example, but you could look at Oklahoma, you could look at South Dakota, you could look at all of the South Carolina, these deep red states that sometimes feel like we're not getting deep red conservatives out of those states or deep red policies in those states.
00:10:07.000Explain why what happened last night could be a pun intended turning point for the conservative movement more broadly.
00:10:16.000I think that right now you're seeing in a lot of these states, like you had mentioned, complacency.
00:10:23.000And I think we believe at Turning Point Action, this was something that Charlie had always instilled in us at TPA and all of our staff members that when you are complacent, you lose.
00:10:34.000I said this in the last segment the Overton window is shifting further to the right.
00:10:38.000And we have a generational opportunity to really double down on our commitment to the conservative movement by not just focusing on the 10 or 12 swing states that we're already involved in that are going to be at the forefront of the effort every election cycle, but those deep red states where we can rack the score up in and really allow for super conservative policies to come up to the surface.
00:11:02.000I'll put it to you this way I don't have a problem with leftist states going hard in the paint in states that they have massive control of.
00:11:11.000You know, take obviously what happened in Virginia.
00:11:13.000The big caveat, the big if there is if super red states like Indiana, like Alabama, which we'll see some movement there, also do the same thing.
00:11:23.000You have to win these little redistricting battles.
00:11:28.000Yeah, and I just think there's a lot of old blood that has to get purged and filtered out.
00:11:33.000As Blake said, it's election by election, race by race.
00:11:36.000We see this in the U.S. Senate, we see it sometimes in the House.
00:11:39.000Maybe not as aggressively or as quickly as any of us would want, but that's the way democracy, constitutional republic works, these changes happen slowly.
00:11:49.000The whole form of government is actually designed to repel violent shifts in politics and the political passions of the people.
00:11:58.000So, if something is worthwhile, and I believe that conservative populism, nationalism is worthwhile, it's going to take cycle after cycle to start doing this.
00:12:08.000On the state level, though, is something that we have not focused on nationally as a conservative movement.
00:12:14.000And it feels like this was a huge, huge breakthrough for the movement to show that it can be done.
00:12:20.000And by the way, did you guys see the Indy star was trying to say, like, it wasn't going to work out?
00:12:26.000And, you know, what are they going to do?
00:12:28.000What's Turning Point going to do after we lose all these races tomorrow?
00:12:32.000So people were trying to make us a boogeyman.
00:12:34.000They were trying to make us set us up for failure.
00:12:52.000Exact wrong lesson to glean from what happened last night in Indiana.
00:12:56.000This felt like it had less to do with Trump and more to do about the sense of betrayal that average conservatives feel when they're voting for their elected leaders.
00:13:05.000Do you agree or disagree with my take?
00:13:08.000I mean, they've gotten used to a lot of frustrations with elected leaders, and this is a symbolic thing, and it's also a thing that just stood out.
00:13:49.000And on top of that, they tried to verbally spar with the president.
00:13:53.000And I think we all know, Once people start verbally sparring with the president, it makes people mad.
00:13:57.000They end up bashing their voters, they end up bashing his supporters.
00:14:00.000Well, most Republicans support the Republican president.0.68
00:14:04.000And so they just, they clown themselves over and over.
00:14:07.000And it's unfortunate we've seen this happen over and over over the past decade, where there are these Republicans who posture themselves as the anti Trump faction.
00:14:16.000And we've seen the pattern play out over and over again that eventually these people just become Democrats, they become liberals, they start hating on the cause that they were supposedly champions of.
00:14:35.000Well, and to Blake's point, there's two parts to being a conservative activist there's knocking doors and putting in the work, chasing votes until your knuckles bleed.
00:14:45.000But then there's the second part to being a conservative activist, and I would argue this is the more important of the two holding our conservative elected officials accountable.
00:14:55.000And if anything, from last night, you know, is Can be proven.
00:14:58.000It's that there is a formula now in place.
00:15:03.000We made a promise on December 5th that we were going to follow through on primarying out these Republican senators that refused to stand with the president.
00:15:11.000We loved working with the Trump team on that.
00:15:14.000But now we showed that, at least at Turning Point Action, we can replicate this all over the country, that at any moment's notice, at the drop of a hat, we can bring in dozens of field staff from around the country who understand what chasing votes.
00:15:28.000Electioneering and providing a dose of accountability looks like.
00:15:31.000Today is a great day for the conservative movement when you think of it in that or through that lens.
00:15:36.000Well, and in our final 30 seconds, I just want to say congratulations, Brett, to you and the team.
00:15:42.000You guys mobilized, you kicked into gear, you got bodies in the field, you got staff that knew what they were doing that have been trained in this system now for years, and they worked with local activists and they got to work knocking doors, working with volunteer groups and local groups.
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00:18:07.000But first of all, you had a great tweet last night about the lesson that we should take out of Indiana and how all the rhinos are going to take the wrong lesson.
00:18:19.000Look, what happened last night is being misconstrued by our opponents.
00:18:26.000A bunch of Republicans, about eight of them, decided that they weren't going to fight fire with fire, that they were going back to the old beautiful loser model of the early 2000s, where Republicans preside in a gentlemanly fashion over the destruction of our country, but sensibly, of course, because you wouldn't want to actually engender any conflict.
00:18:51.000The voters of Indiana tossed, it looks like six of them out and maybe a seventh of the folks who refused to redistrict.
00:19:50.000He is a symbol of our dissatisfaction with the failed pseudo conservative policies of the past.
00:19:56.000That Donald Trump brought attention to it probably helped get people out in kind of a midterm primary that's usually not super well attended.
00:20:09.000But the voters in Indiana didn't do this because Trump told them to.
00:20:13.000The voters of Indiana did it because they want to fight back against Democrat nonsense.
00:20:44.000I just wonder how different you think our country and our politics could be if more Republicans had that in them.
00:20:51.000I do believe a different kind of politics is possible.
00:20:54.000Look, Democrats are always going to disagree with Republicans.
00:20:58.000I'm always going to disagree on a lot of issues with Republicans.
00:21:01.000But if we're all actually talking about what we believe in, that that is better than Republicans repeatedly having to feel pressure to either lose their career or do something wrong because the president is demanding it.
00:21:18.000I got to give it to Blake because I just have a feeling he's got something.
00:21:21.000Well, I'm already feeling aggressed because we know Buttigieg wants to run for president and he's clearly calculated that if he grows facial hair, that will undo whatever weaknesses he had in 2020 and allow him to run and dialing back on some of the other bits of his personality that didn't quite work out as much.
00:21:40.000And I'm just dreading 2028's Democrat primary already, but it will be entertaining.
00:22:15.000I do think it is interesting that he's setting out a path where he essentially says, yeah, I would like Republicans that continually fail and defer to us.
00:22:24.000Well, I'd like Democrats to do that too, but I'm not getting that or a pony for my birthday.
00:23:00.000I read it, and you know what it did for me, Kurt, is it reminded me of some things.
00:23:05.000It reminded me that the murder rate is the lowest it's been since 1900.
00:23:11.000It reminded me about a lot of the wins that we're actually having.
00:23:14.000Today, we're seeing that the FBI is raiding a Virginia state legislator who was one of the champions of their redistricting plan to go 10 1.
00:23:25.000She was calling her own U.S. senators in that state cucks.
00:23:42.000The point I'm making is it reminded me that while people sometimes get frustrated with the Iran war or what have you, President Trump deserves so much credit for instilling this backbone into the movement where we actually fight back for once.
00:23:58.000Tell us about your column and why you wrote it.
00:24:00.000Well, look, I'm an army officer at heart.
00:24:04.000And if you start, and if you let your morale sink, you're going to be defeated.
00:24:11.000I'm always going to look for the positive.
00:24:12.000I'm always going to look for the next opportunity, the next place to attack.
00:24:17.000And I don't understand these folks, Andrew, who get out there and tell us we're doomed.
00:25:56.000And speaking of Iran on its way to solve, we have breaking reports that they allegedly are close to a deal that would remove enriched uranium to be shipped to the US.
00:26:04.000This is what President Trump is claiming.
00:26:33.000And that's often why the most successful left wing movements are like that.
00:26:36.000The left actually don't win all the time, they take a lot of losses and they just keep moving.
00:26:42.000If you want a great example on our side, the pro life movement.
00:26:45.000The pro life movement, it took 50 years to overturn Roe.
00:26:48.000We had a lot of losses at the Supreme Court.
00:26:50.000We had a lot of losses at the state level, a lot of losses at the ballot box, and they just had to do the very tedious hard work of just getting up and going every single time before we got the Dobbs ruling a few years ago.
00:27:00.000And then it's still more work after that, over and over.
00:27:03.000My favorite example of how much things have changed the other day on Truth Social, the president was just posting stats of what's the lifetime tax contribution of immigrants by where they come from.
00:27:14.000Some places it's really good, some it's really bad.
00:27:17.000And you just think we've come so far from a decade ago when he would just say we shouldn't let people in from crappy countries.
00:28:09.000And that's, by the way, what I think Californians deserve as answers to these questions.0.99
00:28:14.000Well, if you're going to let in a bunch of illegals and build the system, then probably you do deserve that.0.98
00:28:20.000But Katie Porter has got to be the most unlikable candidate in the field, and that's saying something.0.99
00:28:27.000Kurt, what do you make of the field and how it's shaping up?0.99
00:28:31.000Well, Katie Porter strikes me as one of those aggressively stupid middle aged divorce second grade teachers who make all her kids celebrate Kwanzaa.1.00
00:28:48.000Yes, you hardworking taxpayers of California should give your money to people who shouldn't be here just because, because you deserve that.
00:28:58.000Now, does she hate the people of California?
00:29:50.000Living in California is really what radicalized me because I realized the progressive mindset essentially results in an ungovernable state or situation because you're incentivized to give more and more stuff to more and more victims.
00:30:04.000And eventually, nobody's willing to say no to anybody.
00:30:06.000And it just creates this feeding frenzy, and the producers, the productive people in your society, get hit.
00:30:21.000They're so desperate to find a lead dog in this pack that now they're saying Becerra, who is grossly incompetent and has a terrible track record at HHS, is now surging.
00:32:26.000And, you know, I think it's fully on brand for the Democrats to simply lie and say, No, it never happened.
00:32:33.000Well, it happened, and it's all on you.
00:32:35.000So, Blake, I'll bring you in for this too.
00:32:38.000You know, we knew this when Swalwell got pushed out of the race that that was actually a net negative for this jungle primary system where we might have had two Republicans at the top Chad Bianco, Steve Hilton.
00:32:51.000I mean, we've got voter ID is on the ballot.
00:32:54.000That's going to generate a lot of enthusiasm with the base.
00:32:56.000Is there any hope that Steve Hilton, who's currently leading in the polls by all metrics, To actually pull this off, I know we're going to have him on probably later this week.
00:33:14.000But Charlie was always one for realism.
00:33:17.000We need to also be realistic here, not because we want to be defeatist.
00:33:21.000We're not black pilling, but we do need to make sure, think about how Turning Point Action allocates its resources, where we want to build the red wall.0.69
00:33:28.000We want to shift those slightly red states to be deep red.
00:33:32.000We want to shift those purple states to be slightly red.
00:33:35.000And the truth is, California is a state that President Trump lost by 20 points, 3.2 million votes in 2024.
00:33:43.000It is a state that's getting bluer by the year because anyone who's not on board with that insanity is leaving.
00:34:44.000Make his case out there, get a few more points than maybe people expected.
00:34:48.000Then next time we do the same thing.0.89
00:34:54.000I think when California finally changes, you're going to get a moderate Republican Hispanic who comes in and says, wait a minute, this isn't meeting the needs of Californians.0.85
00:35:04.000We're going to do some a little differently.
00:35:06.000But I think that's a few cycles down the road.
00:35:08.000Well, and maybe on that point, if you can get voter ID passed, which is still positive in the polls, it has a real shot of passing.
00:35:15.000And you saw what the Save America Act would do to states like New Mexico and Nevada.
00:35:19.000That could shift the electorate as well.
00:35:30.000I wasn't expecting this, but Death of Recess genuinely stopped me in my tracks.
00:35:35.000This isn't about dodgeballs and jungle gyms, it's about control.
00:35:38.000The modern American classroom didn't just happen, it was intentionally designed, standardized, and centralized.
00:35:45.000And once you see who built it and who protects it, everything will click for you, too.
00:35:50.000Billions of dollars flow through education bureaucracies every year, test scores collapse, and somehow the answer is always more money and less parental authority.
00:35:59.000The documentary breaks down how organizations like the NEA amassed enormous influence, how radical gender ideology entered classrooms, and why something as basic as recess, movement, freedom, childhood, all the good things, how they had to go.
00:37:00.000You can find her work all over the place.
00:37:01.000She writes a lot for Compact, she writes a lot of great stuff on X, and she's the author of The excellent book I can highly recommend, Boomers, all about the men and women who promised paradise and brought disaster.
00:37:12.000I might have mangled the title there a bit, but Helen Andrews, Boomers, check it out.
00:37:16.000But we wanted to have you on today for another worthy topic.
00:37:20.000There was news in the economic press recently that it happened.
00:37:26.000It's happened briefly in the past during COVID, but it's becoming more permanent now that more women than men are going to work every day, that they're on payrolls.0.97
00:37:36.000We're becoming a majority women economy, which has got to be.0.91
00:37:40.000Basically, unprecedented in the Western world.
00:37:44.000And Helen, you're one of the best commentators.
00:37:47.000And what does that mean for society?1.00
00:37:49.000What world are we building when we have a majority of women on payrolls?1.00
00:37:55.000Unprecedented is the only word for it.0.94
00:37:57.000As far back as we have data, it has been not just it's never happened, it's been unimaginable that we would have a world where more women are employed than men.
00:38:07.000It has happened briefly, as you said before, in little blips.
00:38:14.000It happened after the 2008 financial crisis, and that's because men were more likely to be in jobs like construction that can be kind of turned off at times of economic crisis.
00:38:23.000But then male employment usually rebounds pretty quickly.
00:38:28.000The difference this time is that this is a more sustainable situation.
00:38:33.000Well, not sustainable in the sense of, you know, will lead to good outcomes, but these are long term trends of declining male workforce participation.
00:38:43.000And what does that mean for our country?
00:38:45.000It means bad things because this is not a sustainable situation.0.91
00:38:49.000When you see the numbers showing that men are doing really badly in the workforce and women are doing comparatively well, you might think that that's good for women because women are earning more money.0.88
00:39:03.000But it's actually bad, not just for the men, but even for the women because data shows that women don't pair off with or marry.0.73
00:39:13.000Men who make less money than they do, who are less educated than they are.
00:39:17.000They definitely don't pair off with and marry men who are unemployed.0.76
00:39:21.000So, if we are now living in a country where most of the time more women have jobs than men, that spells disaster for marriage rates, birth rates, and kind of the long term sustainability of our society.0.67
00:39:39.000Yeah, that's another data point I saw you were posting about on X just the other day.0.93
00:39:45.000I think this was data from Australia, but we're much like Australia, where Overall, men still earn more than women on average.
00:39:51.000But in that key window where you'd be getting married, starting families in your early 20s, we now have a female wage premium that women do out earn men.
00:40:01.000And yet it seems that in our discourse, it's still the narrative from politicians is entirely about the wage gap hurting women, that we need more initiatives to help women.
00:40:46.000That's happening because the law incentivizes it.
00:40:50.000A few months ago, I wrote an article called The Great Feminization that went very viral.
00:40:54.000And there were a lot of things I said in there that got me in trouble.
00:40:57.000With the usual suspects that were pretty controversial.
00:41:01.000But the line that was objected to most frequently was where I claimed exactly this.
00:41:06.000I said that companies hire women that they wouldn't otherwise have hired and give women promotions that would otherwise have gone to men because those companies know if you don't have enough women in your workforce overall and in your upper management, that can be grounds for a lawsuit.
00:41:27.000The laws against gender discrimination are so loose that a single disgruntled employee who doesn't think that she's gotten ahead the way that she wanted to, if she can identify a statistical disparity and can say, you have twice as many men as women in your upper management, or whatever kind of statistics she can come up with, if she can bring that to a courtroom and say, this is proof that this company discriminated against me as a woman, she has a very good likelihood of success.0.74
00:41:57.000Responding to this article, doubted that, but it's just absolutely 100% the case.
00:42:03.000Companies are very, very worried about lawsuits around gender discrimination.
00:42:09.000I mean, even Goldman Sachs had to pay out $215 million over a gender discrimination lawsuit.
00:42:18.000And Goldman Sachs is obviously not a fly by night corporation.
00:42:20.000They have a lot of, you know, they really try and avoid any kind of legal liability like that.
00:42:24.000But even corporations like that are getting stuck with gender discrimination lawsuits.
00:42:41.000We had lost Andrew for a second, but we're bringing Andrew, our co host, back in here.
00:42:46.000Andrew, I'm thinking here, obviously, this is, I think, I agree with Helen that this is artificial and it's having big impacts on marriage and as a result on fertility.
00:42:56.000But I'm really interested in the big long term picture.
00:42:59.000If this continues for 10 years, 20 years, 50 years, What sort of society are we going to build?
00:43:16.000Because I think that what you've unlocked with this great feminization article in Compact Magazine, I think will be looked back at as a massive, massive inflection because we were able to directly draw a line between wokeism and the feminization of the workforce, of industries, of institutions.0.62
00:43:37.000I think the feminist lies pumped into the brains of young women is one of the existential threats to Western civilization.0.63
00:44:16.000One of the most fundamental differences between men and women.0.55
00:44:20.000That shows up in study after study is that women are more consensus oriented.0.92
00:44:26.000When women are deciding what do I believe, what do I think about this or that, they're just more likely to poll their friends to gauge what the people around them are thinking, whereas men are more likely to be individualistic.
00:44:38.000A man is much more willing to say, well, nobody else or none of my peers agree with me on this, but I've crunched the numbers in my own head and to my own satisfaction, and my conscience tells me I think something different, and that's just going to have to be okay with everybody around me.0.95
00:44:53.000There are lots of evolutionary psychological stories you could talk about in terms of why that's the case, but that's just demonstrably true.
00:45:00.000Helen, I happen to think that one of the big things that's really going on underneath the surface is that women have gotten everything they were told they were supposed to want and it's making them miserable and bitter.1.00
00:45:11.000And there's a podcaster, Rachel Wilson, author of Occult Feminism, who said, I thought, put it very well.
00:45:18.000I want to get your reaction to this clip on the other side, SOT 21.
00:45:24.000Dissatisfaction, unhappiness, a feeling of being really torn, trying to have it all, trying to have a career and be a career woman and also have a family and do all of that.1.00
00:45:36.000Women don't know what to do with relationships because, on the one hand, they want men who make more than they do, they want men who are higher achieving than they are.0.75
00:45:45.000Yet, this creates a paradox whereas women have become the number one earners of college degrees, they have now got salaries that compete with men, and they've got more equality than ever before.
00:45:58.000They're finding that the men are not suitable to marry.
00:46:02.000They're finding that, you know, they just can't find a guy who's on their level or higher, which is what they really want.
00:46:47.000I really don't want to miss these precious years.
00:46:50.000But I'm able to do that because I have a husband who has a full time job.
00:46:54.000So when you see any high achieving woman who's been given a lot of the artificial breaks, promotions that might otherwise have gone to a man, you might think that's great for her.
00:47:06.000But there are lots of men in the picture, the men who didn't get those promotions.
00:47:11.000And those men probably have wives at home who are wishing that they could stay home with their own kids and have a little lean out phase of their own.1.00
00:47:20.000And they can't because their husband has been thwarted at work by these artificial feminist rules that make it hard.0.53
00:47:28.000In terms of what to do about it, I think fixing student loans is probably going to be a big part of the picture.0.90
00:47:36.000That the majority of student loans are held by women, but it's not just by a little bit, it's by a lot.0.95
00:47:41.000Two thirds of the student debt out there is held by women.1.00
00:47:44.000And a lot of that never gets paid off because these women are in fields that don't earn a lot of money or they're working in nonprofits, which is a field that has student loan debt forgiveness.1.00
00:47:56.000So you work at a nonprofit for 10 years and then your student loans are written off.1.00
00:48:00.000So these women are being educated essentially on our dime because we, the taxpayer, paid to send them to school and then they. didn't pay us back with that student debt.1.00
00:48:13.000So we're subsidizing their educations and their jobs, and it's creating this imbalance artificially.
00:48:19.000I have a thought, and I wonder what you make of it.
00:48:22.000So, one result of this that we've seen because of this divergence, ideological and economic, is we have a much wider fertility gap between conservatives and liberals.
00:48:34.000Now, among people, I think in their 30s, conservative women are having, I think, twice as many children as far left liberal women on average.
00:48:46.000And one, is it possible this becomes sort of self correcting that will end up the future will be occupied by people who value more traditional norms for their own sake?
00:48:58.000Or is that not going to be enough?1.00
00:49:01.000We need a systemic fix that will enable even liberal women to have kids again.0.55
00:49:06.000I think you're absolutely right about this being self correcting.0.65
00:49:08.000I think liberalism of the kind that exists in the United States today is a self extinguishing philosophy.
00:49:16.000It's a philosophy that has a death wish, and all we can do is make sure it doesn't drag the rest of us down with it.
00:49:22.000It's an ideology that can't reproduce itself, quite literally.
00:49:26.000So, the people that we have to care about and sort of make policy around are the people in the middle who have conservative dispositions.
00:49:36.000They're the people who don't really buy into this self extinguishing liberalism.
00:49:39.000They like humanity and want to carry it on, and they want to have kids.
00:49:43.000They just feel trapped by the financial incentives that make it harder for women to take a break.
00:49:50.000From the workforce and go home and have kids and raise them, or to pair off with men in the first place.
00:49:56.000So, if we just tweak it a little bit, make it a little bit easier for women to do that and for men to succeed enough to allow women to do that, then I think we can take care of those folks in the middle who aren't the crazy liberals.
00:50:07.000They're just trying to survive in the crazy world the liberals have made for the rest of us.
00:50:12.000Helen, I mentioned your book Boomers, which came out a few years ago.
00:51:17.000Books are the missing piece right now.
00:51:19.000People like you have done such a wonderful job fostering good conservative intellectual work in the podcasting sphere, in the radio sphere, organizing people in real life.
00:51:29.000There are some great conservative magazines out there, and I've worked at many of them, and they do a terrific job.
00:51:47.000I think there's articles, are great, segments are great, but there's a real power to if you can have 200 pages, 300 pages on a specific thing that can lay out a narrative.
00:51:58.000And we think of how many myths, you think of White Fragility, that was a book by Robin DiAngelo, and suddenly everyone had to read it, and this was the left wing explanation for the world.
00:52:08.000We need to have on the right a book that we can say, This explains the reality that we're in.
00:52:13.000Well, and I just want to say the article that we had you on previously about the workforce becoming feminized and becoming woke, I genuinely believe that is such an important contribution to the discourse.
00:52:30.000I saw there were clips about Adam Carolla that I just saw talking about it.
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00:54:38.000Without further ado, I want to welcome Mike Collins, Congressman out of Georgia, who's going to be the next senator from the great state of Georgia.
00:54:47.000And I believe he's got one of the best pickup opportunities around nationwide.
00:54:52.000Welcome to the show, Congressman, future Senator Mike Collins.
00:54:56.000Well, I appreciate y'all having me on it.
00:55:08.000And if you look at the current polling data in every general election poll there is out there, I've either been tied with him or in the margin of error since we got in this race, not to mention the fact that we've been leading in the primaries since we got in it.
00:55:21.000And I want to show you that we've got this graphic of you are now, it looks like this is from Qantas Insights taken April 28th through May 2nd.
00:55:31.000And it's got you at 33% in the primary.0.95
00:55:34.000So you haven't even gone toe to toe with Asaf yet, who, by the way, is just such a mediocre, milquetoast, no nothing.
00:55:43.000I was cracking up because Mark Halperin, who's a friend of the show, put out his top eight for potential future president candidates from the Democrat Party.
00:56:26.000Well, and I think that's the main point here, is just the fact that I'm just a blue collar small businessman, been successful in the trucking industry.
00:56:35.000One of the the most regulated and taxed industries that there is in this country.
00:56:40.000And to be able to take that experience and go to Washington and get something done.
00:56:45.000I mean, I've had probably one of the most successful careers that there is in Congress, even though I've only been up there one full term, and that's to get two pieces of legislation signed into law.
00:56:55.000In the Lake and Riley Act, that was my piece of legislation, which, by the way, California's third senator, John Assoff, opposed that bill.
00:57:05.000And you want to know what John Assoff or what he looks like.
00:57:08.000All you have to do is look at the state of California, combine that with the state of New York, because that's where his money comes from.
00:57:16.000The majority of his money comes from those two states.
00:57:19.000And it's because he doesn't reflect the values of this state, the people of this state, or any resemblance to this state.
00:57:26.000So, you know, you're looking at a guy right there now that actually agrees with men playing in girls' sports.
00:57:33.000I've not found a soul here in the state of Georgia that agrees with that.
00:58:27.000Tell us what your platform that's going to get us excited, that's going to get that turnout in an off year, that's going to set you apart in a general election.
00:58:35.000Yeah, you know, it's just the fact that midterm elections are all about turnout.
00:58:41.000It's lining up the voters in your party.
00:58:46.000And here in the state of Georgia, if you don't go for that low propensity Trump voter or someone that actually is a Trump candidate, then you're not going to turn out the voters.
00:58:57.000And the unique thing about me is when you look at how I have been solidly behind President Trump all the way back to 2016, I mean, I've either maxed out to President Trump with financial help, or in the case of 2024, I was the only candidate in this race in Georgia that was out there across the country knocking on doors.
00:59:18.000I mean, yeah, I was the guy, the old Southern boy out there in Iowa, negative 40 degree weather.
00:59:24.000And not only that, but I also went out across this country and picked up six other candidates and campaigned for them, went and knocked doors.
00:59:33.000Turning Point knows they know how important knocking doors is.
00:59:38.000And so I went out there knocking doors for those candidates because I wanted them to be in Congress when President Trump got back to the White House so that we would have his back this time.
00:59:47.000Because I honestly don't think that they actually had his back in 2017.
00:59:51.000The people of the state of Georgia see that.
00:59:57.000Now, the Atlanta suburban crowd, and that's the other part of the Republican Party here.
01:00:02.000They just want somebody to go get something done.
01:00:04.000You know, and if you take a look at the Lake and Riley Act, I could have got that passed with just Republicans, but I actually went and got Democrats because I knew that's how I was going to get it out of the Senate.
01:00:15.000And that's how we got that bill passed.
01:00:18.000They want somebody to actually to deliver for them.
01:00:21.000And, you know, I don't know if your audience knows this or not, but in just one year's time, that little simple three, four page piece of legislation has been responsible for taking over 20,000.
01:00:34.000Illegal criminals off our streets across this country, which is making us safer.
01:00:41.000Yeah, I mean, so much of the violent crime is done by such a small percentage of violent criminals, repeat offenders, foreign illegal gang members, all this stuff.
01:02:13.000Yes, what you're seeing now is you're seeing more people that are working these polls.
01:02:20.000And that was the in 2020, I was in the private sector, y'all.
01:02:23.000And I was also the chairman of our Republican Party in the little county I'm in.
01:02:27.000So I had to work the polls because you couldn't really get people to help.
01:02:31.000But that you're hitting the nail on the head.
01:02:34.000When somebody turns in an absentee ballot, it's supposed to be signed on the front with their name so that you can verify signatures.
01:02:42.000And to me, that is where we need to look.
01:02:45.000That's where I'm so thankful that Kash Patel and the FBI came by and paid us a little visit in Atlanta and picked them up a bunch of boxes of souvenirs.
01:04:28.000Of over 50, there were 56 people crammed in that little room that we just left down here in South, South Georgia during 12 o'clock when they could have gone and ate lunch somewhere, but they came by to hear what our message was and to help us get this vote out.
01:05:36.000You know, what's also going on besides our big win in Indiana?
01:05:39.000I think we should talk about Ted Turner died this morning.
01:05:44.000He was in his late 80s, but obviously a very memorable figure in American life if you were around in the 80s and 90s.
01:05:52.000If you list off the things he was involved in, he's kind of in the, you might say, like the Mike Tyson zone, where any story, or maybe Michael Jackson zone, any story about him, Is at least somewhat plausible.
01:06:04.000He's the man who invented Captain Planet.
01:06:07.000If you found that show particularly intolerable in the early 90s, he created, most memorably for us, CNN, the cable news network.
01:06:19.000In fact, President Trump was memorializing him for just that on Truth Social.
01:07:22.000So, when he passed, We started looking into it.
01:07:25.000Blake actually put this in one of our chats, and I was like, this is extraordinary stuff.
01:07:30.000At the same time, Mr. Turner was developing a damaging reputation for philandering, drunkenness, and public misconduct.
01:07:38.000His tumultuous first marriage to Julia Nye, with whom he had two children, Laura and Teddy Jr., ended in the early 1960s, shortly after Mr. Turner competed against his wife in a yacht race.
01:07:52.000Seeing she was on the verge of winning, He rammed her boat with his.
01:08:51.000He was very, he criticized pro life supporters a lot.
01:08:54.000I do like his appreciation of our history.
01:08:56.000Well, so President Trump's truth addresses the CNN thing.
01:09:00.000Said Ted Turner, one of the greats of all time, just died.
01:09:04.000He founded CNN, sold it, and was personally devastated by the deal because the new ownership took CNN, his baby, and destroyed it.
01:09:12.000It became woke and everything that he is not all about.
01:09:16.000Maybe the new buyers, wonderful people, will be able to bring it back to its former credibility and glory.
01:09:20.000Regardless, however, one of the greats of broadcast history and a friend of mine, Whenever I needed him, he was there, always willing to fight for a good cause, President Donald J. Trump.
01:10:11.000They opened with the Star Spangled Banner.
01:10:13.000And then he said, We will keep broadcasting until the end of the world.
01:10:16.000So they have a video in the CNN archives, which is the Marine Corps band playing taps.
01:10:21.000And it says on it, Only play this if the world is about to end.
01:10:25.000And so if we're ever facing Armageddon, if the world's about to explode, We will be able to see that clip on CNN.
01:10:33.000Not that any of us would want to spend our last moments watching CNN, I suspect.
01:10:37.000You know, he seems to me cut from that old mold.
01:10:41.000You know, it's like you kind of get a sense of the Gilded Age, those American men of industry, of great wealth that actually poured their money back into the country that cared about its founding values.
01:10:57.000A real titan and aggressive individual that was wildly creative, wildly pioneering, and was willing to take massive risks.
01:11:07.000You know, we're just talking with Mike Collins, and he said he was in Southern Georgia.
01:11:11.000I've been to Southern Georgia once, and I was actually near a town called Thomasville.
01:11:15.000Which is famous for being surrounded by these huge, huge properties that are, they don't even have roads on them.
01:11:22.000They're some of the biggest undeveloped parcels of land in the country, like 100,000 acre parcels kind of thing.
01:11:29.000And you do hunting and like kind of in the old mold.
01:11:33.000And I actually went to one of them to do a hunt, and it was, I found out it was previously owned by Ted Turner.
01:11:40.000So, and apparently there was all sorts of wild stories.
01:11:43.000He would go visit the property like twice a year to do these big quail hunts.
01:11:48.000And they do it with dogs and foxes, and they have people that hand you the gun and load it for you.
01:11:53.000I mean, it's kind of like old English style down there in Thomasville.
01:11:56.000And he used to own one of those properties.
01:11:57.000So it just absolutely never ending, almost insatiable desire and appetite for new adventures.
01:12:06.000And really, you know, for all of his faults, which it appears there were many, you have to admire that just pure Americana, that drive, that man of industry that animated so much of his life.
01:12:19.000And you could tell that that's why President Trump.