The Charlie Kirk Show - A Warrior's Best Friend–LIVE from the Navy Seal Museum with Baden K-9

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, a special advertiser-free episode of when I visited the Navy SEAL Museum with my dog, Mr. Briggs.

00:00:07.000 And I was there with the organization and the company that raised my dog, Baden Canine.

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00:00:19.000 I can't even talk about all the places their dogs are, but we ask about the spiritual component of owning a dog.

00:00:25.000 We talk about what you can learn from a dog and some amazing first-hand experiences from that.

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00:02:04.000 Hey, everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:06.000 I don't always do shows in front of Blackhawk helicopters, but when I do, it's only at the Navy SEAL Museum in Fort Pierce, Florida.

00:02:13.000 With me today are two amazing guys, Josh from Baden or Badden, Canine.

00:02:17.000 I got that right.

00:02:18.000 And then we'll just call the friend to my left, Yoda, from the Navy SEAL Museum and also the Canine Project.

00:02:24.000 I've been wanting this conversation for a while.

00:02:26.000 Josh, I'll start with you.

00:02:28.000 My new dog came from your farm, came from what you guys do, and I've just been so blown away and impressed.

00:02:34.000 And our audience knows all about Mr. Briggs now.

00:02:37.000 And I just want to first just kind of for you to introduce yourself and tell our audience, you know, what do you guys do at Baden?

00:02:44.000 Hey, thanks, Charlie, for having us.

00:02:46.000 So my name is Joshua Perry.

00:02:48.000 I come from Baden Canine.

00:02:50.000 It's a Canadian facility that was founded by my family back in the 70s, early 70s.

00:02:56.000 And we breed, raise, and train Dutch Shepherds, German Shepherds, and Belgian Malinois.

00:03:01.000 Like Briggs, the Dutch Shepherds are a unique dog and a good-looking dog.

00:03:07.000 So that's who I am.

00:03:08.000 How long have you been doing it?

00:03:11.000 The company now was founded in 72.

00:03:13.000 I've been doing it for 24 years.

00:03:16.000 Awesome.

00:03:17.000 And so Yoda, you run the C-9 project, or you help run it, and also this museum.

00:03:22.000 Tell us about both.

00:03:24.000 Okay, great.

00:03:25.000 So the museum itself, the mission is to capture, preserve, and present the history of naval special warfare to the public.

00:03:34.000 And then within that, they have a charitable 501c3 organization known as Tridenhouse Charities.

00:03:44.000 And within Tridenhouse Charities, they've got four pillars on it.

00:03:48.000 But one pillar is the Canine Project.

00:03:50.000 And That's an entity that really focuses on marrying up the right dogs with the right veterans who require the veteran, who require the dog.

00:04:02.000 And that also translates right into the veteran's family.

00:04:05.000 So really it's affecting both the veteran and the family itself.

00:04:11.000 And that's it in a nutshell.

00:04:13.000 And that was stood up.

00:04:15.000 How long was it stood up ago?

00:04:17.000 It was stood up even before I was on the scene.

00:04:19.000 Yeah, about eight years ago.

00:04:20.000 Eight years ago?

00:04:20.000 Eight years, five, eight years ago.

00:04:22.000 And that was a real intimate collaboration with the museum and Bed and Canine.

00:04:28.000 And the original director of the program was a gentleman named Phil Ryan.

00:04:34.000 So if you come to the museum, you'll get to meet Phil as well.

00:04:36.000 He's done a lot of time, energy, and love into that program.

00:04:41.000 I recommend everyone in Florida, or if you're in Florida, traveling, just to come by Fort Pierce.

00:04:46.000 It's an amazing facility.

00:04:47.000 So Josh, I want to ask you about training dogs.

00:04:50.000 And dogs are very unique creatures.

00:04:54.000 It's unlike any other dog on the animal kingdom.

00:04:56.000 It's one of the few animals, if not the only animal, you can correct me, that will leave his or her mother to actually come to humans.

00:05:03.000 There's a special bond between dogs and humans.

00:05:06.000 Just talk a little bit about that.

00:05:10.000 Is it over-exaggeration to say it really is man's best friend?

00:05:12.000 Why is it that the man and the dog mesh so magically?

00:05:17.000 You know, you said my father explains it better than I do. 0.96

00:05:21.000 He said, you know, the only creature that leaves, that will leave the bitch, the female, the mom, and join man. 0.83

00:05:28.000 So you walk into a pen full of puppies and walk away and that female will leave its mother, its source of life, to join a new life with the human being. 0.88

00:05:39.000 So I don't think there's a really one answer to it because it's magical.

00:05:44.000 But, you know, at the Canine Project, what we see with the veterans, what that does in the healing process is just amazing.

00:05:52.000 Let's dive deeper into it, though.

00:05:54.000 So from the principles of Batten are very similar to the principles that you're trying to instill in good human beings, right?

00:06:03.000 Obedience, understanding your surroundings.

00:06:08.000 It's not like training horses.

00:06:09.000 I mean, I like horses.

00:06:11.000 They're fine, but there's something different with dogs in particular.

00:06:14.000 Just kind of dive into that and elaborate just what we can learn from dogs and vice versa.

00:06:21.000 Okay.

00:06:22.000 Yeah, I think, you know, one of the biggest, speaking of the working dogs, the working dogs and responsibility, you know, there's a new movie coming out.

00:06:32.000 I forget the name of it.

00:06:33.000 There's a new movie coming up with a Malamois in it.

00:06:37.000 And, you know, there's a lot of people talking about the responsibility from getting a Malamois, you know. 0.99

00:06:43.000 And I think, you know, that's a great point.

00:06:46.000 And it shouldn't be a point that's being made because discipline and responsibility should be in the human being.

00:06:51.000 But it's not.

00:06:53.000 And, you know, when you work with these dogs, it's a great reflection of who we are and where we are.

00:07:01.000 How so?

00:07:02.000 Discipline.

00:07:03.000 Discipline's a big one.

00:07:04.000 Accountability, responsibility, consistency.

00:07:08.000 You know, when you're looking at the veteran and the canine project, these men, these special forces, we're at the UDT Navy SEAL Museum, the Navy SEALs.

00:07:17.000 You know, the tip of the spear as far as capability goes, responsibility goes, accountability goes, discipline.

00:07:25.000 And you look at these veterans that come out of this environment, and to have these skills and not be able to keep them current in a civilian population is a big challenge for them, right?

00:07:38.000 Even in marriage.

00:07:40.000 So where do you apply those skills, those high level of skills? 0.97

00:07:44.000 And when you hand them a dog and you not only challenge them to draw those skills back out, because they put them away in a Pelican case is what they did. 0.97

00:07:53.000 They put the uniform away. 0.90

00:07:55.000 They put their sword away.

00:07:56.000 They put their capability away.

00:07:58.000 You ask them, hey, where are you from?

00:08:00.000 And they don't tell you.

00:08:02.000 Right?

00:08:02.000 But you can see it in the dog.

00:08:05.000 So, yeah, that's really important.

00:08:07.000 I can say that growing up with a dog, it enriches your life infinitely, right?

00:08:12.000 And it brings out a different side of you.

00:08:15.000 And it requires you to think bigger than yourself, right?

00:08:19.000 It requires you to all of a sudden, you know, be aware of another heartbeat in the house, and they might see things that you don't see.

00:08:27.000 So, Yoda, talk about from the psychological perspective, maybe some anecdotes in particular of how you've seen veterans or people that have gone through some very serious stress, post-traumatic stress, be blessed or benefited by integrating a dog into their life.

00:08:43.000 That's really a good question, Charlie.

00:08:45.000 So if we step back again and keep focusing on the veteran for a second, it's going to come into understanding.

00:08:54.000 So when you look at most veterans, I'm just going to speak about the special operations community, but it really applies to every warfighter, no matter what branch you're from and what your trade is or your MOC is.

00:09:08.000 When the young warrior is brought up through their training and they're just getting in service in those first few years prior to combat, they're really like a knife, a really sharp knife.

00:09:20.000 And they become even sharper through their training and the indoctrination of military principles.

00:09:28.000 And then they go through their service, and then they may go, their career may take them in different directions, but there's stress right from the beginning.

00:09:37.000 And then eventually they're brought onto the battlefield.

00:09:41.000 And on the battlefield, they may go on the battlefield once.

00:09:45.000 They may go on the battlefield 100 times, 200 times.

00:09:49.000 But what ends up happening is they're being utilized for the purpose that they're supposed to be utilized, just like a knife.

00:09:56.000 When you use a knife over and over, what happens to it?

00:09:58.000 It gets dull.

00:10:00.000 That's exactly right.

00:10:02.000 And so then the warrior completes their career, but there really isn't in the military a re-sharpening process.

00:10:11.000 It's just constant, you get training, but it's constant use, constant use, constant use.

00:10:17.000 And the warrior leaves their service, and whether they realize it or not, we're all, we've been dulled by our service, by our combat experience, and so forth.

00:10:29.000 And there's an old ancient saying from scripture that says, iron sharpens iron.

00:10:34.000 It's a proverb, yeah.

00:10:35.000 Yep, that's right.

00:10:36.000 And we believe, we can't prove it through scripture, but we believe in the badden philosophy is what I learned from Josh's pops.

00:10:46.000 And we've seen it in life walking with the dogs, that the dog helps sharpen the warrior.

00:10:56.000 And then when the warrior applies the correct training philosophy with consistency, then the warrior continues to sharpen the dog.

00:11:07.000 So you have this back and forth of iron sharpening iron.

00:11:12.000 And now what's being sharpened, that's the big question.

00:11:15.000 Like, are we talking about their combative skills?

00:11:18.000 No, we're not talking about that.

00:11:20.000 We're talking about their ability to focus.

00:11:23.000 We're talking about their ability to gain control of their emotions.

00:11:28.000 And on the battlefield, as every warrior knows, it's all managing emotions on the battlefield.

00:11:34.000 Skills are dime a dozen.

00:11:35.000 Someone's relatively intelligent and has general athleticism.

00:11:39.000 You can teach most young men and young women to do most of the skill sets that we do.

00:11:46.000 But applying them under stress, that's all about emotional management.

00:11:52.000 And then when we come back and then we retire and we find there's more stress retiring and leaving our teams and not having a mission, and then we start rolling into losing control of our emotions.

00:12:10.000 And these creatures demand that we have control of ourselves.

00:12:15.000 They demand it.

00:12:16.000 And if we don't have control of ourselves, we will not have control of the creature, the canine.

00:12:23.000 So the warrior has to make a choice when they walk into this program that the Navy SEAL Museum and Baden Canine has put together.

00:12:35.000 And that decision is: really, am I going to learn to manage my emotions again?

00:12:43.000 So it's almost like being reborn, in a sense, when they go through the process.

00:12:48.000 Can I ask you just as a follow-up?

00:12:50.000 And I'm sure the answer is yes, but I'd love to hear a story or two of people that were at a low point because they weren't able to manage themselves.

00:12:59.000 And the integration of a bad dog was a turning point for them.

00:13:03.000 Is this a frequent type story? 0.94

00:13:05.000 Yeah, that's easy.

00:13:06.000 I mean, I mean, there's already, there's every, there's almost every, well, every man in the room here that your audience doesn't see, there's people here looking at us, making sure we say the right things.

00:13:17.000 But no, I'm joking on that.

00:13:20.000 That's very easy.

00:13:21.000 I'm going to tell you the story of a teammate of mine, and I'm just going to call him Jimmy.

00:13:27.000 Okay, so Jimmy, Jimmy was married, had three young'uns, went through his military service, gone through a divorce right before he left service, left service, re-hooked up with his wife and his children again.

00:13:47.000 And now they're trying to make it work.

00:13:48.000 But the challenge now for the family is that he's dull and he's having issues on how to control his emotions.

00:13:57.000 And the family can't understand that because his wife was with him through his whole service.

00:14:02.000 So when she met him, he was sharp as a katana, a samurai sword.

00:14:08.000 And she just saw him get duller and duller and duller and not understanding what was happening.

00:14:14.000 And so after reintegrating back with his family, now he was in greater danger of a permanent divorce, a permanent separation from his children, because there came to a point where even the children didn't want to be around him.

00:14:32.000 So when they finally figured out, and I think it's definitely the Lord that does the whole thing and brings in the tools to make it happen.

00:14:41.000 But when they finally figured out that there's this opportunity with the creature, with the canine, to help Jimmy re-sharpen and regain control of his emotions, they jumped on board with it.

00:14:55.000 And it wasn't easy because the whole family had to commit to that process, and the whole family had to commit to consistency in what Josh and his father called fuy it.

00:15:14.000 Leave it. 0.95

00:15:15.000 Yeah, so we just got some folks.

00:15:17.000 We got some movement back and they're just doing their job.

00:15:19.000 We can edit it out.

00:15:22.000 Fuyit.

00:15:22.000 Hey, fuyitat.

00:15:23.000 Wait.

00:15:24.000 Fuyit.

00:15:25.000 Leave. 0.99

00:15:26.000 Good leave.

00:15:28.000 Leave it. 0.95

00:15:29.000 More comes back.

00:15:29.000 Good leave.

00:15:30.000 There you go.

00:15:31.000 Yeah, so once they committed to that process, things started to happen, but then they started to realize this is not easy.

00:15:38.000 It takes labor, as a gentleman both Josh and I respect in the business world would say to us all the time that there's nothing without labor.

00:15:52.000 And that's the cornerstone.

00:15:55.000 That discipline to commit to the process.

00:15:59.000 Be consistent in the process and labor in it.

00:16:02.000 Then they started seeing the fruit.

00:16:04.000 And the fruit started coming a little bit later.

00:16:08.000 Now, there was instantaneous fruit, of course, from that initial excitement.

00:16:12.000 Josh sees it all the time.

00:16:14.000 People marry up with the dogs.

00:16:15.000 They're really excited.

00:16:17.000 So there's some initial commitment to working on themselves with their families.

00:16:22.000 But then when they hit the labor, sometimes people, you know, you're a month in and you're struggling a little bit with your consistency in the training and the philosophy.

00:16:31.000 And then it's like that labor gets hard.

00:16:34.000 And the reason why it's hard for the Warriors is because they're dull.

00:16:38.000 They're not as sharp as they was when they were in their 20s, where they could be as disciplined.

00:16:44.000 And we never minded, like Dan's looking at me over the years, and we know exactly where we're talking.

00:16:49.000 We didn't mind laboring when we were in our 20s or 30s.

00:16:52.000 But now that we're out of service, we're like, why do I want to labor anymore?

00:16:56.000 I did all that stuff.

00:16:58.000 But for the families that stuck to it, they started to see the change.

00:17:04.000 Emotional control, learning to understand themselves again, and learning to be open-minded enough to look at their wives and their children and say, hey, I don't really understand you, but I'm going to try a much more effective manner to do that.

00:17:20.000 So I found that the biggest effects with Jimmy is the family cohesion through going through the process, if that makes any sense.

00:17:31.000 It does.

00:17:31.000 Yeah, I've had Briggs for about six weeks now, and it's work.

00:17:35.000 I mean, it's work to have meaningful things in life, but it's definitely worth it.

00:17:40.000 And, you know, just for everyone to understand that Baden, it's not your run-of-the-mill training.

00:17:46.000 It's full integration of the dog to be an augment to an efficient and effective and meaningful life.

00:17:57.000 And, you know, Josh, you could talk a little bit about some of the kind of services you guys provide, whether it be for special forces protection or family home protection that we have, right?

00:18:08.000 And I could say that for all the death threats we get, it's a great deterrent.

00:18:14.000 It really is.

00:18:14.000 But anyway, just having the dog around has been so fulfilling for us, my wife and I.

00:18:19.000 But it's been a challenge at times, not going to lie, to reorient ourselves in our life.

00:18:24.000 It's like, you know what?

00:18:24.000 No, I can't just be flipping through email right now.

00:18:27.000 I got to, you know, I have to be focused on something bigger than myself.

00:18:30.000 So talk just more about the services you guys provide and just kind of the training that you're able to offer.

00:18:34.000 Okay, good.

00:18:35.000 Yeah, I think, you know, a lot of people see the relationships with the military and the veterans and they avoid or it deters them thinking that we are a military service or emergency service provider only.

00:18:47.000 We're not.

00:18:48.000 Our foundation of our company, it revolves around the family and the family home protection program.

00:18:54.000 The veterans and the emergency service law enforcement canines is a big part of our company.

00:19:01.000 We do supply a small, unique capability with training and canine to a few military services and branches.

00:19:10.000 But to be honest with you, the family home protection program allows us to be giving at the charitable level with the Navy SEAL Museum and other charities.

00:19:19.000 So like Yoda was discussing, the effect on the veteran, that effect goes right into the Family Home Protection Program as well.

00:19:27.000 It's challenging, it's demanding, it's emotional.

00:19:31.000 But like you're noticing, the deterrency with the family home protection, the canine integrating into the family is huge.

00:19:37.000 I mean, people just respect these dogs.

00:19:40.000 There's this really primitive, my father is a saying, primitive does not mean outdated.

00:19:47.000 And it's not outdated.

00:19:48.000 It's very primitive capability.

00:19:50.000 The dog holds this natural capability to detour someone, even at the violent level.

00:19:57.000 I mean, they might have an idea of what they're going to do, but that idea changes very quickly when they come against one or two of these. 0.79

00:20:05.000 Yeah, and it's B-A-D-E-N canine.

00:20:09.000 You guys can look it up.

00:20:09.000 Josh, I want to ask a follow-up question.

00:20:12.000 And you say that two things.

00:20:15.000 You say, show me the dog.

00:20:17.000 I can read everything I want to know about the owner.

00:20:19.000 That's why my dogs are all so good looking.

00:20:21.000 Yeah, they're all so handsome, right?

00:20:22.000 And then just kind of an interesting question that I asked you before, and you can go any way you want to go with this.

00:20:28.000 Is there a such thing as a bad dog?

00:20:30.000 People say there's no such thing as bad dogs, only bad owners.

00:20:32.000 I'd love to get your thought on that so you can unpack it any way you want.

00:20:35.000 Okay, so I'll tell you that I get asked that question a lot.

00:20:37.000 Can you teach an old dog new tricks?

00:20:39.000 And are there bad dogs?

00:20:40.000 Okay, I would say that the reflection of bad lies on human beings.

00:20:46.000 And I would put the blame on humans.

00:20:49.000 I don't believe the SPCA should be in business.

00:20:52.000 What is that?

00:20:53.000 The animal control, all the dogs being given over to because of their disobedience or their aggressiveness on the streets.

00:21:02.000 That's a major, they're going to hate me for this, but that's a major money-making machine just on human beings to...

00:21:10.000 No, it's a North American thing.

00:21:13.000 So you have animal control, which we call it the SPCA.

00:21:17.000 And my brother works for them, by the way, my younger brother.

00:21:21.000 And you look at how much money these facilities are making based on the disobedience in the lack of consistency and discipline in human beings.

00:21:32.000 We see this not only in the dog world, we see it in a lot of different avenues of our walk in life.

00:21:39.000 You know, so a bad dog for this community makes money.

00:21:43.000 They'll get that dog, they'll charge the owners, they'll bring the dog in, they'll rehabilitate it and put it back out on the streets maybe to another family, and then that dog again cycles through.

00:21:55.000 So there are bad dogs.

00:21:56.000 Yeah, I've met them.

00:21:57.000 I've met a few of them.

00:21:59.000 But their handlers are worse off.

00:22:02.000 So they've got a breed that they had no business getting.

00:22:06.000 They have known nothing about the herding breeds, the mastiff breeds, the mollister breeds, the terrier breeds.

00:22:12.000 I mean, today's society bases a breed on its look, not a capability.

00:22:16.000 So you have the show world which is destroying dogs.

00:22:19.000 Tell me why.

00:22:20.000 Just based on look.

00:22:22.000 There's major inbreeding.

00:22:24.000 There's major.

00:22:25.000 There's a lot of skill in animal husbandry in breeding.

00:22:30.000 There's titles on dogs.

00:22:31.000 I'll sell you a piece of paper.

00:22:33.000 This dog's titled.

00:22:34.000 His father was XYZ.

00:22:36.000 Vaughn, who cares? 0.94

00:22:38.000 And you sell them.

00:22:40.000 I've had clients, well, I paid literally $120,000, $150,000, $220,000 that want to show me a set of papers.

00:22:47.000 This is the truth.

00:22:48.000 And I don't care about papers.

00:22:51.000 And, you know, it's a show-me.

00:22:53.000 Don't talk about it.

00:22:55.000 So we've successfully, and this isn't the boast of getting on a pedestal.

00:22:59.000 This is we've taken bad dogs and we've brought them into this work and given them direction.

00:23:05.000 We've taken bad handlers and brought them into this work, whether it be a 15-year-old that won't listen to his parents or whether it be someone like me that didn't want to listen to my wife, right?

00:23:16.000 You're gone too long, right?

00:23:18.000 You've got to come home.

00:23:19.000 So it's the responsibility lies on the human being, the handler.

00:23:26.000 So old dog new tricks, the answer is yes.

00:23:29.000 You know, I think that that falls on genetics.

00:23:32.000 And under stress, everything falls back on your foundation and genetics.

00:23:35.000 So I think genetically, if the dog...

00:23:38.000 My dad says this, you know, giving my father credit because he's the foundation of everything.

00:23:43.000 If the handler is able, the dog is capable.

00:23:46.000 So he's always taught us that.

00:23:48.000 If the handler is able, the ability for the handler is the capability that goes down the leash into the dog.

00:23:56.000 So if you put that dog, that old dog or that bad dog in an environment with handlers and human beings that are able, then that dog falls back on or into the environment of capability.

00:24:08.000 So we've done it.

00:24:09.000 So I just want our audience to know, this is going to be hard to convey via audio.

00:24:13.000 You guys got to check out the Bad and Canine website.

00:24:17.000 The kind of force of nature these dogs are able to command is remarkable.

00:24:22.000 The spots they're able to fit into, the drills they can run through, and the stressful situations they actually can operate in.

00:24:29.000 It's the highest level of stress and demand that you could possibly imagine from emergency response to all of this.

00:24:38.000 It's not, I hate to say it's not a normal dog.

00:24:40.000 I could say that.

00:24:41.000 I know it sounds, you know, you're shy of that.

00:24:44.000 It's not.

00:24:45.000 It's a full integration into what is the modern warrior.

00:24:50.000 Talk a little bit, Yoda, just about Navy SEALs in general and just how the dog actually allows some of their missions to be executed, special forces.

00:25:01.000 I don't think some people actually have a full understanding.

00:25:04.000 Some people say, oh, yeah, they're just there to sniff bombs.

00:25:06.000 But it's a part of the unit.

00:25:08.000 It's considered to be a weapon itself.

00:25:10.000 Okay, so that's a great question, Charlie.

00:25:13.000 The first thing is, is when the canine or the combat assault dog is what's really what they're called, they're a huge, or they can be, if they're utilized correctly, can be a significant force multiplier for the units.

00:25:32.000 And that's not just naval special warfare.

00:25:35.000 That's any unit within the United States Armed Services.

00:25:39.000 In naval special warfare, I'm not going to get into how they're utilized, but the significance of how they're able to assist the warfighters, whether they're rolling out in a small team or a large team for whatever mission they're doing, a direct action mission or a strategic reconnaissance mission, is the dog has capabilities that the human being doesn't have.

00:26:05.000 So one is their detection capabilities.

00:26:09.000 So a detection capability from a dog, dogs have far significant hearing than the human being does.

00:26:18.000 They can hear movements and sounds that we don't naturally hear.

00:26:24.000 And then they can indicate on them.

00:26:26.000 So that can warn teams about various different threats that can be around them or threats that can be lying in wait at some distance.

00:26:35.000 And when I'm saying some distance, I'm talking hundreds of meters.

00:26:38.000 Wow.

00:26:39.000 All right, hundreds of meters.

00:26:42.000 And then they can be utilized kinetically, where is they can actually be used to go out and bite, go out to distract.

00:26:52.000 So as teams are entering doing one thing, dogs can be utilized to distract.

00:26:57.000 But would you like to hear a small little story?

00:26:59.000 If you can.

00:27:00.000 Yeah, I can tell you a small story.

00:27:01.000 I'm not going to tell you which special operation unit this was, but this is a true story.

00:27:06.000 So this soft unit was out on patrol.

00:27:10.000 They were patrolling to move into a position to do a mission.

00:27:13.000 The mission isn't important here.

00:27:15.000 And they had two combat assault dogs.

00:27:19.000 And these two combat assault dogs were off lead and were punching out about 500 meters to a kilometer in advance.

00:27:28.000 Then they would basically punch out, reconnaissance the area themselves, looking for threats, come back to the team, punch back out, come back to the team, and so forth.

00:27:37.000 And that was the pattern of which they would move.

00:27:39.000 Well, anyway, on one of their punch outs, about a kilometer out, these two combat assault dogs bumped a Taliban, a small Taliban force of three enemy that had discovered the movement of the soft patrol, and they had set up a hasty ambush, meaning we're going to set it up really fast. 0.76

00:28:02.000 So the dogs decided together to engage these three Taliban. 0.60

00:28:08.000 So they engaged these three Taliban, and when this happened, the patrol could hear gunfire. 0.58

00:28:15.000 They figured out, because it was only one type of gunfire, that it's probably their dogs in a tick.

00:28:21.000 And a tick for your viewers just means troops in contact.

00:28:26.000 And so they figured out that their dogs were in a fight.

00:28:29.000 So the drill for them at that point was to just hunker down, stop in position for a period of time, assess, do all their drills with rear comms, rear link comms, all that kind of stuff. 0.59

00:28:41.000 These dogs are attacking Taliban.

00:28:43.000 The dog support.

00:28:43.000 That's right.

00:28:44.000 No human support.

00:28:46.000 These dogs engaged a Taliban ambush that was waiting for that small patrol.

00:28:54.000 So the end state was, is the dogs eventually came back.

00:29:00.000 I don't remember the exact time.

00:29:02.000 It doesn't matter, but it would have been a short period of time, probably within the hour.

00:29:06.000 The dogs came back to the patrol and they were pretty shot up, like multi-system trauma from 762 rounds.

00:29:17.000 And so they had to pull in a nine-line for the dogs and a nine-line for your viewers.

00:29:23.000 It's just a process we call from medivac and we get our people off the battlefield.

00:29:29.000 So after the dogs are extracted out, they decided to move forward and do what's called an SSC.

00:29:36.000 It's kind of like a sensitive site exploitation, but they're doing it on where the ambush site was.

00:29:41.000 So they went up to see what was happening.

00:29:42.000 When they got up, they were able to piece it together.

00:29:45.000 All three of the Taliban were dead.

00:29:48.000 All were dead.

00:29:50.000 And they were able to piece together really quickly that the two dogs had flanked.

00:29:55.000 One dog had come on one side of the Taliban ambush, and the other dog came on the other. 1.00

00:29:59.000 True story, this is true. 0.98

00:30:01.000 And came on the opposite side, and they kind of figured out from the angles of the ballistic angles of the 762 rounds that these three Taliban enemy had jumped up and were on their feet shooting at the dogs trying to kill them.

00:30:22.000 And they weren't successful at that.

00:30:24.000 And so the dogs, in their own way, how they fight, and that's a whole other discussion, how the dog fights. 0.78

00:30:32.000 The two dogs killed the three Taliban.

00:30:34.000 Two on three. 0.92

00:30:35.000 Two on three.

00:30:36.000 And did the dogs survive them?

00:30:37.000 Oh, yeah, they both survived.

00:30:39.000 And they both were able to make their way back to the patrol.

00:30:42.000 And they survived the surgery or whatever.

00:30:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:44.000 It's really neat.

00:30:45.000 So I'm going to get into that.

00:30:46.000 That's good.

00:30:46.000 You're leading me into that.

00:30:48.000 So the dogs were able to make their way back to the patrol. 0.96

00:30:51.000 The dogs got Kazuvaked out. 0.87

00:30:53.000 Patrol, I don't know if they carried on with their mission or not, because that is a compromise, but that doesn't matter in the story. 0.89

00:31:00.000 Now, where it gets even leave, it gets just as interesting.

00:31:04.000 It gets just as interesting is that Josh gets a phone call from this unit and says, hey, we just had two dogs seriously wounded in a tick.

00:31:16.000 We need two dogs, replace them right now. 0.96

00:31:20.000 So, anyway, in this process of Josh and his team replacing these dogs and getting two new combat assault dogs back into the battle, into the battle space, we had the opportunity to go to Germany and meet the two dogs that were in the tick and shot up.

00:31:42.000 And their injuries were severe, but the dogs survived.

00:31:47.000 But they had to be taken out of service because of their injury.

00:31:50.000 And when we got there, their kennel master was who basically hosted us to meet these dogs was sleeping every night in the cages with the dogs.

00:32:08.000 So the bond between the man and the dogs went far off the battle space.

00:32:17.000 And then we met the dogs.

00:32:18.000 They brought the dogs out.

00:32:19.000 And I'll tell you this: if you've never met a dog that has killed a human being in battle, you won't understand the look in their eyes, but you can see it in their eyes, just like you can a man who's got who's got battle-wear eyes.

00:32:31.000 Wait.

00:32:33.000 So that's, did that answer your question?

00:32:35.000 Well, I mean, it's an extraordinary story.

00:32:37.000 And I mean, forgive my ignorance on this.

00:32:41.000 Is this a well-publicized story?

00:32:42.000 No one knows about it.

00:32:45.000 It is now.

00:32:46.000 No.

00:32:48.000 Just to answer that.

00:32:49.000 We have permission to share the story without giving out any of the details of the unit placement.

00:32:55.000 It's all publicized.

00:32:56.000 It is?

00:32:57.000 It is.

00:32:58.000 So that part of it's not well publicized.

00:33:01.000 It's the three on two or the actual event.

00:33:08.000 But that story, there's actually a video online of one of the dogs that actually ended up due to the injuries passing away.

00:33:18.000 Yeah, they honored that dog and acknowledged that mission and that situation.

00:33:24.000 But yeah, that story is public.

00:33:26.000 Well, those dogs and they're being awarded and honored is public to a point.

00:33:32.000 But that actual incident in detail like that is not.

00:33:37.000 It's an extraordinary story. 0.82

00:33:39.000 Three Taliban with firearms not able to take down two dogs. 0.88

00:33:42.000 And they were all killed, all three of them. 0.89

00:33:44.000 Yes.

00:33:45.000 Wow.

00:33:46.000 Okay, so in closing here, I want you to talk about the canine project, how people could support it.

00:33:52.000 I don't want to oversimplify it, but if people are listening, foo it.

00:33:58.000 If people want to financially support giving dogs to veterans who need them, is that something they could do?

00:34:05.000 So tell us the website, how they can get behind it.

00:34:07.000 Absolutely, 100%.

00:34:10.000 So it's pretty simple.

00:34:11.000 This program, the Canine Project, comes under the Trident House Charities with the National UDT Navy Seal Museum.

00:34:21.000 So folks, go to the National UDT Navy Seal Museum website, which is NavySealMuseum.org.

00:34:30.000 Is that right, Philly?

00:34:31.000 Okay.

00:34:32.000 And then when you go in there, just search for Trident House Charities and read through, and there's a very simple process by which you can donate.

00:34:40.000 Cool.

00:34:41.000 Okay.

00:34:41.000 The other thing that's also really cool, which when we got involved with the museum a while back, was they throw these really fantastic events.

00:34:54.000 And they're very diverse.

00:34:56.000 Some events are super fun, canine demonstrations.

00:35:02.000 Some are full Navy SEAL capability demonstrations with SEAL operators and helicopters and kind of like reenactment, like reenactment of combat, but all in fun, all in fun.

00:35:18.000 So it's very family-oriented.

00:35:19.000 You can bring your family.

00:35:21.000 Our muster, our main muster in November is like that.

00:35:24.000 And we'll get like 2,000-something people come rolling through, and it's super fun.

00:35:29.000 And then there's the high-profile galas and dinners where donors come in and they commit to dropping some good coin for Tridenthouse Charities and the Canine Project.

00:35:46.000 And those are great events, too.

00:35:47.000 Sometimes they're black tie events.

00:35:49.000 Sometimes they're a little more casual.

00:35:52.000 And these take place across America in different places.

00:35:54.000 So contact the museum and you can learn more about it.

00:35:59.000 Great.

00:36:00.000 So Josh, let's make sure people know how to contact Bad and Canine.

00:36:04.000 And any other closing thoughts just in general of kind of what we're talking about here?

00:36:10.000 Yeah, thanks.

00:36:11.000 So just bad and canine.com.

00:36:14.000 Excuse me.

00:36:14.000 Yeah, bad and canine.com is a website.

00:36:18.000 Instagram, Bad and Canine, Facebook, all the good stuff.

00:36:21.000 I think alongside partnering with the UDT Navy Steel Museum and Tridenthouse Charities, specifically the Canine Project, our company provides canine protection for the family.

00:36:35.000 And through that program, we can give more back to the veterans.

00:36:41.000 So that's where a for-profit company is charitable.

00:36:45.000 So bad and canine.com.

00:36:47.000 Well, it's Briggs has enriched my life, and we'll still get to know each other.

00:36:52.000 But if anyone really wants to take that next step, not just get a Fuffy Dog, but really get into it, I encourage them to check out Baden.

00:37:00.000 Also financially support the museum and also the Canine Project.

00:37:03.000 It's really important.

00:37:04.000 Thank you guys so much for joining us.

00:37:06.000 This was awesome.

00:37:07.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:37:07.000 That was fun.

00:37:08.000 Thank you.

00:37:11.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

00:37:13.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:37:16.000 And if you would like to get involved with Turning Point USA, go to tpusa.com.

00:37:20.000 Thank you so much for listening.

00:37:21.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - April 16, 2022

A Warrior's Best Friend–LIVE from the Navy Seal Museum with Baden K-9

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