The Charlie Kirk Show - Afghan Resistance Fighters, Joe Rogan, Ivermectin, and the Truth About the Delta Variant with Dr. Keith Rose

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00:00:13.000 There's a remnant fighting force that is fighting valiantly that the Biden administration is hanging out to dry.

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00:00:22.000 Keith has the update for that.

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00:01:48.000 I was struck by a, I would say a lack, a very deliberate lack of coverage in the media when it comes to Afghanistan.

00:02:02.000 You can feel this.

00:02:02.000 Even Joe Biden was out doing a press conference this morning.

00:02:06.000 Well, I wouldn't call it a press conference, but he spoke at a podium and almost took a question and then deferred.

00:02:13.000 But he's talking about the economy.

00:02:14.000 He's talking about infrastructure.

00:02:17.000 He's talking about Texas's abortion law.

00:02:21.000 And conspicuously absent in the reporting is anything to do with Afghanistan.

00:02:29.000 And why is that? 0.99

00:02:30.000 Of course, it's intentional. 1.00

00:02:32.000 There is still a massive amount of news coming out of Afghanistan. 0.99

00:02:37.000 There are green card holders and citizens that have been, as one reporter said, been screwed.

00:02:43.000 They are stranded there, although the White House doesn't want to call it stranded.

00:02:48.000 There is a massive mobilization of foreign fighters, of different elements within Afghanistan that are all vying for power.

00:02:58.000 There's the Chinese element, there's the Pakistan element, there's the Iranian element.

00:03:02.000 And of course, you have the Taliban now taking control of that country in large swaths of it at least.

00:03:09.000 So I saw this article.

00:03:11.000 It's actually from National Review, Credit Where Credit's Due.

00:03:13.000 American media turn away from Afghanistan.

00:03:17.000 And this is from Jim Garrity.

00:03:19.000 And basically, it goes through a whole litany of other stories the media would rather cover than Afghanistan because it polls poorly.

00:03:28.000 And so I said, you know what?

00:03:30.000 We're going to bring back one of the top experts, especially that we've had on our show, that has been right about, I'm not kidding, folks, it has been right about everything that's been going on in the country.

00:03:42.000 It's a foreign policy expert, our friend, Dr. Keith Rose.

00:03:47.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:03:49.000 Everybody, you is backed by popular demand.

00:03:51.000 You are absolutely amazing, especially when it comes to this issue.

00:03:54.000 You're also a doctor.

00:03:55.000 So, we're going to actually keep you on for additional segments because I want to talk about vaccines, Israel, Ivermectin, Joe Rogan, all that stuff.

00:04:03.000 We're going to get there, folks.

00:04:04.000 But you have spent a massive amount of time in country, Keith.

00:04:08.000 So, I wanted to give you an opportunity to highlight the stories the media doesn't want to talk about.

00:04:15.000 And you've been in direct contact with people on the ground.

00:04:18.000 You have updates for us.

00:04:20.000 The floor is yours.

00:04:21.000 Sure, Andrew.

00:04:22.000 First of all, we have some good.

00:04:24.000 Yeah, we have some good people on the ground working, Andrew.

00:04:27.000 There's a lot of vets, a lot of former Intel community members, a lot of folks that understand that we have a moral obligation to take care of the people that took care of us for greater than 20 years.

00:04:40.000 These people risked their lives for us.

00:04:43.000 A lot of them are not alive now, but their children are alive.

00:04:46.000 And we have a moral obligation as a nation to pay attention, but we also have a geopolitical obligation to pay attention because what happened, Andrew, and what the American public saw unfold wasn't normal.

00:04:59.000 When we travel in Afghanistan, we always look for things that we don't have to look for the abnormal things.

00:05:05.000 We just have to look for what's not normal.

00:05:07.000 If you know that normal ebb and flow, anything else outside of that, you can go, okay, I got to drill down on that.

00:05:12.000 And that's what we're doing right now.

00:05:13.000 Because when the administration pulled out, what we have found and learned is that while they left all the weapons at Bagram Airfield, they left millions of rounds of ammunition.

00:05:25.000 They left armored vehicles, tanks, APCs, armored personnel carriers, helicopters, all kinds of machine guns, crew-served machine guns. 0.57

00:05:37.000 They left those for the Taliban.

00:05:40.000 What they did do, what they did destroy, was a large ammo depot up in the Pan Shir that the resistance needed, the National Resistance Front, the NRF, needed to continue the fight against Al-Qaeda, the foreign fighters, and the Taliban.

00:05:57.000 And you can't separate them because they're all working together.

00:06:01.000 So yesterday, they just had a big battle.

00:06:05.000 Who destroyed that ammunition?

00:06:06.000 We did.

00:06:07.000 The military.

00:06:09.000 And the military, from what I understand from sources that I have, said that they did it under orders from the Joint Chiefs and the State Department.

00:06:19.000 That's what drove the destruction of that ammunition depot because a lot of guys on the ground didn't agree with the decision, but they had to follow orders in the chain of command.

00:06:30.000 And last night, they had the largest push of Taliban up into the Pan Shir through the Shmali Plains in the valley there going up into the Pan Shir.

00:06:41.000 They had, I believe, the counts are 7,200 fighters.

00:06:47.000 And the resistance front defeated them, Andrew.

00:06:50.000 They beat them back and they captured hundreds of them.

00:06:54.000 So I want to establish something here, Keith, because I don't think a lot of people listening know that there's, you know, maybe some people are aware that there is a resistance.

00:07:02.000 So this is Afghanis fighting the Taliban, right?

00:07:07.000 This is, and these are, what, moderates?

00:07:10.000 These are, are they secularists?

00:07:12.000 Who are these people?

00:07:14.000 And how big is it?

00:07:15.000 These are people that love their country.

00:07:18.000 They're Muslim just like the Taliban, but they're not radicals.

00:07:22.000 They're the people that supported us.

00:07:23.000 A lot of them are former Afghan National Army that we trained, the supposedly the group that we supported.

00:07:29.000 They went up and coalesced around their leader, Amarullah Saleh.

00:07:34.000 And his lieutenant, Masood, who is the son of the real charismatic leader, his father, who we called the lion of the Pan Shir, and his dad.

00:07:47.000 And his dad was killed right before 9-11.

00:07:50.000 So you have these two people that are, they're good strategists.

00:07:54.000 There's a lot of older commanders that are coming up there.

00:07:57.000 There's people that love their country.

00:08:00.000 They're not up there fighting for an ideology.

00:08:02.000 They're up there fighting for their families.

00:08:04.000 There's women and children in the pan sheer. 1.00

00:08:06.000 One of the Taliban spokesmen, and I sent you the tweet, tweeted out that we are going to go to the pan sheer, kill the men, and make their women our slaves. 0.97

00:08:16.000 And America and America armed the Taliban to do that. 0.85

00:08:20.000 I want to remind you that the president of the United States doesn't have a Twitter or former 45th president of the United States doesn't have a Twitter account.

00:08:26.000 And yet the Taliban is up there threatening women and children with rape and death and destruction.

00:08:34.000 And these are what the White House is calling, you know, the international actors.

00:08:39.000 They have to determine how they want to be perceived on the world stage.

00:08:43.000 I think they've determined how they want to be perceived on the international stage.

00:08:47.000 I think that they have proven exactly who they are.

00:08:51.000 And yet these are the people that we trusted with the safety of our troops.

00:08:56.000 These are the people that we have essentially surrendered to.

00:09:00.000 And this is what I'm hearing behind what you're saying, Keith, is that this was some deal struck between our government and the Taliban. 0.82

00:09:09.000 And we're all stuck with it. 0.92

00:09:10.000 We're going to give them all of the weapons, the vehicles, the helicopters, billions of dollars worth of machinery.

00:09:17.000 And we're going to completely turn our back on any other type of resistance movement that's in country.

00:09:26.000 That's correct.

00:09:27.000 I believe that this deal was brokered behind closed doors by people like Amar, by people like Khalazad, who was leading the peace process.

00:09:36.000 And when Khalazad led the peace process, he was talking directly to the Taliban.

00:09:41.000 And the Taliban at the time over the past, he started this, I believe, in 2018, over the past, you know, two years, two to three years before this peace process even came to fruition.

00:09:52.000 The Taliban didn't do anything that we asked them to, and they did everything that we asked them not to.

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00:11:03.000 I want to give you a chance to explain the promise made by the Biden administration in Afghanistan and how he is once again failing to meet that promise.

00:11:15.000 Well, Joe Biden came out when people were criticizing the way we were exiting, and he made it very clear that we have over-the-horizon capabilities, meaning we have the abilities to perform airstrikes if necessary to kill foreign militants or people that are trying to harm people that are left behind, basically, is what he was saying.

00:11:39.000 He was saying we have over-the-horizon capabilities.

00:11:42.000 Well, last night, Andrew, the resistance, which are the people that we left behind, a lot of the guys that worked with us are up in the pan sheer.

00:11:50.000 They just want freedom for their country.

00:11:53.000 And the Taliban attacked them with 7,200 fighters.

00:11:57.000 They captured hundreds of them.

00:11:59.000 And in those hundreds of fighters were several foreign fighters, al-Qaeda. 0.74

00:12:04.000 They captured Uyghurs from China.

00:12:06.000 They captured Chechens. 0.99

00:12:08.000 They captured Pakistanis.

00:12:09.000 They captured people from in Europe.

00:12:12.000 They have a lot of foreign fighters that are coming there that are working. 0.68

00:12:16.000 And this is al-Qaeda.

00:12:17.000 So these are the people that Joe Biden said we will give over-the-horizon support for as the resistance to get these kind of fighters.

00:12:26.000 And I would encourage every American to pressure their representative to call the White House, fax, email, carrier pigeon, whatever you have to do to raise awareness.

00:12:36.000 Because there are families in the Panjir that, like I told you before, the Taliban spokesman said we're coming up to kill you and enslave your families.

00:12:44.000 That's on Twitter because his Twitter account is still active. 0.83

00:12:47.000 And so they're sending foreign fighters up into the Pan Shir Valley through the Shamali Plains to destroy these people that are Afghans that we trained who only want to continue what we train them to do. 0.54

00:13:00.000 And the only support, the support that we could help would be not to hurt them by stopping the people that are actually using our armor, our rifles, our optics, our night vision to kill the people that we spent 20 years training. 0.93

00:13:17.000 And I think that's something the American people need to understand because if they fail this resistance front, the super state, the terrorist superstate that's going to happen in Afghanistan is going to become a launching pad for terrorism around the world.

00:13:31.000 And this time there will be a quote unquote legitimate player in the world on the world scene because China is actually expanding their embassy in Kabul right now. 0.78

00:13:41.000 In the middle of all the chaos, China's putting more people into Kabul. 0.91

00:13:45.000 You have Pakistan.

00:13:46.000 I sent you a video that was taken two days ago, and it shows multiple Iranian intelligence agents and Iranian generals meeting with the Afghans in Afghanistan to discuss their receiving of our vehicles in our armor. 0.80

00:14:01.000 So the Taliban aren't just using our equipment, they're giving it to our enemies so they can reverse engineer a lot of our technology.

00:14:09.000 We know that's happening up in China when they're moving the vehicles through into Pakistan. 0.89

00:14:15.000 So right now you have China creating their Silk Road through Afghanistan for them economically to get the deep water port through Iran.

00:14:22.000 In addition, they're strengthening their relationship with Pakistan, which is a nuclear country. 0.65

00:14:28.000 And at the same time, they're getting our technology delivered to them so that they can reverse engineer it. 0.96

00:14:35.000 This is a lose, lose, lose situation for the American people.

00:14:40.000 And there's no way the Biden administration should be able to spin this as anything but an unmitigated disaster.

00:14:46.000 So just to sum that up for folks, because I know there's a lot going on there, there is a resistance movement of people that used to make up the Afghan military that we trained for 20 years that are still fighting.

00:14:59.000 And they are thousands large up in the northwest of the country, correct?

00:15:04.000 Northwest of the country.

00:15:05.000 And they have coalesced.

00:15:07.000 They're directly north of Kabul.

00:15:10.000 And so we have trained these people.

00:15:11.000 They just fought off 7,000 Taliban fighters, and they are the best hope of a future in Afghanistan to stop the emergence of a terrorist superstate.

00:15:23.000 And Joe Biden has turned his back on these people.

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00:18:16.000 You know, we've been talking about Afghanistan.

00:18:18.000 You have some of the best sources on the ground that I have seen throughout this whole crisis and debacle.

00:18:24.000 I mean, legitimately hours and hours ahead of the news cycle.

00:18:30.000 It is a really impressive track record that you have.

00:18:36.000 And I just want to say, you know, thank you for all that you're doing.

00:18:39.000 You've been instrumental in getting a lot of people out that needed to get out that our U.S. government had made promises to and broke those promises.

00:18:48.000 So hat tip to you and your entire team that you're working with behind the scenes.

00:18:52.000 I do want to transition, however, to the other major storyline I think that's going on here.

00:19:00.000 Really, in a heightened way, Dr. Rose, you know, with the jobs report, missed the mark massively this morning.

00:19:09.000 Dive into the headlines.

00:19:12.000 Yes, we did add hundreds of thousands of jobs, but we missed it by 300 or 400,000 based on Wall Street estimates.

00:19:19.000 If you dive into the headlines, it's because Delta, Delta, Delta, the COVID, the fourth wave, as they're calling it, that's happening across the country.

00:19:29.000 You know, I guess death tolls are rising, whatever.

00:19:32.000 People are worried about the pandemic again, and it's having an economic impact.

00:19:37.000 You've got this Joe Rogan story that is just taking over the national media.

00:19:41.000 I'm going to play Joe Rogan's clip in just a second.

00:19:44.000 But you are a doctor.

00:19:46.000 You have been, you and I have been texting throughout the pandemic a lot about different articles.

00:19:52.000 We've got Sweden not allowing Israelis anymore to travel to their country, and Israel is one of the highest vaccinated populations in the entire world.

00:20:01.000 Help us make sense of this.

00:20:03.000 What's your read on what's going on?

00:20:06.000 Is Delta something that we need to be afraid of?

00:20:11.000 Delta is something I believe, based on a lot of information that we have now, is most likely out because of the COVID vaccine, where the first cases of the Delta variant were found were actually in regions where each one of the pharmaceutical companies had what we call phase three trials, which were trials with people.

00:20:35.000 So when they started using this vaccine, we started seeing more of this quote, we started seeing more cases of COVID, and we have this Delta variant.

00:20:43.000 The problem with all this is that COVID in any variant is treatable early with proper medications.

00:20:52.000 And you have to ask yourself why the mainstream media and mainstream medicine.

00:20:58.000 And when I say mainstream medicine, I'm not talking about the actual on-the-ground physicians, but the medical bureaucracy like the American Medical Association, which has less than 40% doctors in them.

00:21:10.000 These big bureaucratic organizations are pushing so hard for a vaccine that when you have early treatment, you can't get an emergency use authorization for that vaccine.

00:21:22.000 Let's talk about this, actually.

00:21:23.000 I want to get into this.

00:21:24.000 The UK actually just blocked their oversight board just blocked mandating, or actually, let me get the actual quote here.

00:21:36.000 They have now basically said that 12 to 15-year-olds are not going to be approved for the vaccine.

00:21:44.000 And there were clashes breaking up between protesters and police at the drug regulator office in London ahead of the decision whether to approve or refuse vaccinations for children.

00:21:55.000 So this is what it is.

00:21:56.000 UK's vaccine advisory body, JCVI, refuses to approve vaccination, vaccinating healthy children aged 12 to 15.

00:22:04.000 There is, quote, insufficient evidence to offer mass COVID-19 vaccinations for this age group.

00:22:10.000 So, and you actually have heard you say that you don't even want to call it a vaccine.

00:22:15.000 You call it a treatment, a medicine that is comparable to other medicines that are on the well, what you're saying is correct.

00:22:23.000 It's experimental gene therapy, but let's just give them the case.

00:22:26.000 Let's pretend it's a vaccine.

00:22:28.000 You just had a Pfizer trial with 20,000 healthy people that were vaccinated and 20,000 people that were unvaccinated.

00:22:36.000 And the difference in the number of people that got COVID in the vaccinated and unvaccinated group was 0.8 to 0.1%, which is, it's negligible.

00:22:49.000 What's that mean?

00:22:50.000 What's that mean?

00:22:51.000 It means that the same number of people that got COVID in both groups was the number of people that got COVID in both groups was roughly the same.

00:22:59.000 You see, all the vaccine companies come out and they give their data.

00:23:03.000 And it's interesting the way they couch it.

00:23:05.000 And I can explain this quickly.

00:23:07.000 They say it relative risk reduction is in the 94 percentile if you average it across all vaccines.

00:23:15.000 What that means in plain English is that it will decrease your symptoms if you get COVID by 94 in 94% of the people.

00:23:26.000 They don't really give a significant how much it decreases your symptoms.

00:23:29.000 They just say it decreases symptoms.

00:23:31.000 It doesn't increase survivability.

00:23:33.000 It doesn't prevent you from getting the disease and it doesn't prevent you from spreading it.

00:23:37.000 But when they look at absolute risk reduction, and that is prevention of spread of the disease and getting it and dying, it's less than 0.1% across the board.

00:23:49.000 So the absolute risk reduction is not a vaccine.

00:23:53.000 It doesn't meet the standard of a vaccine.

00:23:55.000 Now, separate that into one box and then come over to, well, why do we have these vaccines in the first place?

00:24:02.000 Well, they say we have these vaccines in the first place because there's no other way to treat COVID.

00:24:06.000 And this is the only way we can, quote, get rid of the disease.

00:24:10.000 Well, that's an absolute lie.

00:24:12.000 I don't know any other way to say it because I personally, in my clinics, I own several clinics.

00:24:16.000 We've treated thousands of patients with 100% success rate using ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine with other medications early.

00:24:23.000 Okay.

00:24:25.000 Let me stop you right there, Dr. Rose.

00:24:26.000 I'm going to play clip 103, I believe it is.

00:24:29.000 Joe Rogan talking about this.

00:24:31.000 I mean, this has been one of the biggest stories of the last couple days, simply because the left rejoices that Joe Rogan, who they can't control and who is a free speech champion, got COVID and he was against taking the vaccine.

00:24:49.000 Let's go ahead and play Cut 103.

00:24:52.000 Got tested and turns out I got COVID.

00:24:55.000 So we immediately threw the kitchen sink out of all kinds of meds, monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, ZPAC, prednisone, everything.

00:25:08.000 And Joe Rogan goes on to say that he had one really bad day, and then within three days, he was completely fine.

00:25:15.000 So that's what's missing in this whole storyline.

00:25:18.000 Everybody's saying, Joe Rogan, anti-vaxxer, gets COVID.

00:25:23.000 And then the whole point of it is he's saying, man, I threw everything I could, all the therapeutics I could, and within three days, I was completely fine.

00:25:30.000 I had one bad day, Dr. Rose.

00:25:32.000 And that's what we're seeing.

00:25:34.000 I personally saw it when my parents at 85 years old and their 90-year-old friend all got symptomatic, severe symptom, COVID, and were better in three days.

00:25:43.000 And they're doing fine now.

00:25:44.000 You know, Andrew, we're ignoring the actual science.

00:25:47.000 And that's unfortunate because any vaccination that gets authorized must be, if you get emergency use authorization, it has to be protected against severe illness and death.

00:25:58.000 And COVID-19 now, according to Dr. Ianitis out of Stanford, who's done the studies and published them, and they have not been contested, showed that the IFR, the case fatality rate for COVID, does not constitute severe illness and death in the population.

00:26:18.000 The numbers are not there.

00:26:21.000 And they're not being contested.

00:26:22.000 So again, I would ask you, why are we pushing for an experimental vaccine in a population that for 99% of the population is not at risk of severe illness and death?

00:26:39.000 Okay.

00:26:39.000 Well, I am not getting the vaccine.

00:26:42.000 I have gotten COVID.

00:26:45.000 Actually, it was last winter.

00:26:46.000 I got COVID, had a couple bad days, took HCQ, took some other things.

00:26:52.000 I mean, I kind of had the Joe Rogan approach.

00:26:54.000 I'm going to throw everything at the kitchen sink.

00:26:56.000 It was fine.

00:26:58.000 You know, I'm not going to, and now I've seen a ton of reports that basically say, A, my antibodies are better.

00:27:08.000 Basically, my body's ability to fight COVID is much better because I have a natural immunity, which makes complete logical sense to me and to millions of other Americans.

00:27:17.000 And then B, I've also heard that those of us who have natural immunities from actually recovering from the virus naturally, if you get the vaccine, there could be additional health risks for you.

00:27:30.000 So maybe address that too, Dr. Rose, but I also want I want to hear your take on ivermectin.

00:27:35.000 Is this a horse drug?

00:27:36.000 Okay, let's go through both of those people.

00:27:39.000 Yeah, let me unpack all that you ask and I'll try to do it in order.

00:27:43.000 First, I took the same medications that Joe Rogan took when I got it.

00:27:48.000 And like you, I have immunity now.

00:27:52.000 I'm not just saying I have immunity, but actually the study out of Israel says that natural immunity is better than vaccinated, quote unquote, immunity.

00:28:00.000 And that's a country that is pushing vaccinations and they're going to their third shot right now.

00:28:06.000 Yeah, they're going to booster shots now.

00:28:08.000 That's right.

00:28:09.000 So that kind of puts that to bed.

00:28:11.000 The science shows natural immunity is better.

00:28:14.000 And the next part of what you talked about was once you have this immunity and people are pushing for people to get vaccinated, it could trigger you to have more problems through enhancing your antibodies.

00:28:30.000 It's called antibody-dependent enhancement, ADE.

00:28:34.000 And what that does is it makes your antibodies, once you receive the vaccine, hyper-vigilant.

00:28:40.000 They're going to look everywhere for something to attack.

00:28:44.000 And unfortunately, when you have that happening and you have a gene therapy that's causing the spike protein in your blood cells or your endothelial cells and along your blood vessel linings, they can attack.

00:28:56.000 You can attack yourself into what we know as an autoimmune process, a hyperimmune process.

00:29:01.000 And we've seen that.

00:29:02.000 The most viral article on Facebook was a doctor that, after the vaccine, died through a similar process like this.

00:29:10.000 And Facebook tried to censor it, but people made it go everywhere.

00:29:15.000 And if you think we're just making this up, folks, or obviously not, but I think the CDC even says don't get the vaccine if you've had COVID within 90 days.

00:29:26.000 So they're actually allowing for this period.

00:29:31.000 They're acknowledging that something, yeah, they know that something's happened, but they said after 90 days, you're probably fine.

00:29:36.000 Well, and the other thing is what you're hearing, and this is a fallacy.

00:29:39.000 It's a statistical fallacy, is that the number of people that are being admitted to the hospital are unvaccinated.

00:29:47.000 There's an increased number of unvaccinated people with COVID-19.

00:29:51.000 They're quoting the statistics from January to June.

00:29:56.000 And during that time, we did not have active vaccination campaigns.

00:29:59.000 So the majority of people that got sick and were admitted and died were unvaccinated.

00:30:04.000 However, since the vaccination, no one's talking about those statistics.

00:30:08.000 And I believe, based on personal experience and the studies that I've seen, the majority of people that are getting sick and going into the hospital are vaccinated patients.

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00:31:05.000 Here was the Israeli study, and this was, I believe, 700,000 people were involved in this study.

00:31:14.000 It says a 27 times increased level of protection from natural immunity versus a vaxed immunity adjusted for comorbidity.

00:31:25.000 Meaning that you are 27 times more protected if you have natural immunity.

00:31:30.000 Does this sound about right, Dr. Rose?

00:31:33.000 Is because natural immunity is so much better because it recognizes the virus.

00:31:38.000 And your body, once the virus enters your body, it's attacked by antibodies at the surface.

00:31:44.000 Then, when it gets into your bloodstream, it's attacked by your lymphocytes.

00:31:47.000 And there's to keep this simple, there's two types of lymphocytes, T-helper cells, T-killer cells.

00:31:52.000 The T-killer cells seek out the virus and destroy it.

00:31:55.000 They also do other things, but that's in a 100,000-foot view.

00:31:59.000 So you have good natural immunity.

00:32:01.000 Andrew, when we switch, Dr. Bacardi, who's a virologist out of Europe, who's pretty much the most published person in this space, says that the way the variants are happening in coronavirus, they're only changing by a few nucleotides.

00:32:16.000 So the natural immunity you had to the first COVID-19 is robust and durable and will last you through the variants.

00:32:24.000 But when you take a vaccine to induce immunity, you're making a spike protein in a cell and you have these killer T cells.

00:32:32.000 They're designed to kill the virus.

00:32:36.000 But the problem is they don't know the difference between the virus and a healthy cell when you're generating the viral component in your cells.

00:32:44.000 And that's why you're getting this antibody-dependent enhancement.

00:32:48.000 And what more important is the paradoxical immunity enhancement, which is where you basically attack your own tissue.

00:32:55.000 Okay, so I want to talk about something.

00:32:57.000 We are at 1,500, according to the Washington Post, today, about 1,500 COVID deaths a day in this country.

00:33:04.000 When we were doing this story a couple of weeks ago, even maybe let's just say a month ago, that was at 300 to 400 deaths a day.

00:33:12.000 So something is happening.

00:33:14.000 Is this, are we, do you think that this is a direct result of more people that were vaccinated that are now getting infected again and that may need a booster or something like this to keep to keep it going?

00:33:26.000 Or what's going on?

00:33:28.000 I believe the people that are vaccinated are still at risk.

00:33:32.000 They may be vaccinated and then all of a sudden they're not washing their hands as much.

00:33:36.000 They're not, you know, just doing the common sense things you can do to keep from getting infection.

00:33:41.000 That's a possibility, but I think more likely, the highest probability is you're seeing these variants emerge from vaccinated patients.

00:33:48.000 We know that vaccinated patients have viral shedding and they can actually asymptomatically transfer the virus to other people.

00:33:56.000 And I think you're seeing an uptick in the viral spread.

00:34:00.000 The bigger problem, Andrew, and this is the most important thing people need to understand is this is a treatable illness.

00:34:06.000 And when I'm seeing deaths, 100% of the deaths that I have seen in my community and other areas where we have clinics and work is that people come in with symptoms, they are sent home and told to come back when they're having difficulty breathing or they're having more symptoms, more severe symptoms.

00:34:25.000 So by the time someone comes back to the hospital, they're already pushed over as far as their systems are already starting to decompensate.

00:34:34.000 They're not, their immune systems are becoming compromised when they could have been treated early.

00:34:40.000 I had a patient the other day who had diabetes, was a smoker and obese.

00:34:44.000 We treated him and his wife early and both of them got better.

00:34:48.000 Had they stayed, I have, I've seen other ones that stayed home for seven days and by the time they get to hospital, they're intubated and it's up by then.

00:34:57.000 It also has to do with your nutrition status too, which will help defend against this.

00:35:01.000 One quick thing, Dr. Rose, and that's about our kids: 12-year-olds to 15-year-olds.

00:35:06.000 The UK just said there's not evidence to get them vaccinated.

00:35:09.000 We will vaccinate over 12 in the United States.

00:35:12.000 Fauci is basically saying it's a good idea, and he hopes that we're going to get emergency authorization to do younger than 12.

00:35:18.000 Okay, what's your thoughts on this?

00:35:19.000 Kids?

00:35:20.000 Any vaccination of a child is child abuse and it will be shown that way.

00:35:24.000 And while the vaccine companies may be immune to liability, the doctors won't.

00:35:30.000 And the people that recommend it won't.

00:35:32.000 The studies are there that show that 100% of kids without comorbid problems that get this virus survive without treatment, period.

00:35:42.000 Thanks, everybody, for tuning in.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - September 03, 2021

Afghan Resistance Fighters, Joe Rogan, Ivermectin, and the Truth About the Delta Variant with Dr. Keith Rose

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