The Charlie Kirk Show - July 19, 2023


After Trump, They’re Coming For You


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16 people were indicted in Michigan and could be in prison for the rest of their lives. What does that mean? What does it have to do with all the other indictments going on across the country, and why is this happening?

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, 16 people indicted in Michigan.
00:00:04.000 What does it mean?
00:00:05.000 They signed a piece of paper and they might be going to jail for the rest of their life.
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00:00:34.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:35.000 Here we go.
00:00:37.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:38.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:40.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:44.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:47.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:48.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:49.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:58.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:06.000 That's why we are here.
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00:01:18.000 We have been warning for the last couple years.
00:01:20.000 In fact, it was two years ago where we said that the night of the long knives was beginning, which, of course, was in Nazi Germany where the regime started to criminally go after their political dissidents.
00:01:32.000 Lock them up.
00:01:32.000 We call this Stalinistic or Maoist.
00:01:35.000 All that stuff is accurate.
00:01:38.000 And we've seen it at the top level and the bottom level.
00:01:41.000 For example, if you make a meme that the regime does not like, like Douglas Mackey, they're going to put you in prison.
00:01:48.000 So you need to go after the humorists, the satirists.
00:01:51.000 They need to try to send a message that if you mock the regime, a decade in prison.
00:01:57.000 They need to go after the truth tellers. 0.94
00:01:59.000 Steve Bannon is facing federal prison.
00:02:02.000 We don't know when he's going to go, but he has been convicted and sentenced.
00:02:07.000 Dinesh D'Souza, remember when he did a very successful film against Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton?
00:02:14.000 He was also indicted and convicted by the Southern District of New York.
00:02:19.000 James O'Keefe, truth-teller, citizen journalist, Project Veritas, had his apartment raided by the FBI.
00:02:26.000 And then, of course, was removed by Project Veritas under very suspicious circumstances.
00:02:34.000 The people on January 6th, you go and you wave a flag, you're 75 years old, and they go and throw you in a gulag.
00:02:42.000 All of this points towards an objective.
00:02:46.000 Secret police tactics, Gestapo, totalitarianism.
00:02:50.000 They can't win the country by persuasion or dialogue.
00:02:54.000 And this fits perfectly into a disturbing trend that I started to realize eight or nine years ago when I first started at Turning Point USA.
00:03:02.000 When I started to go to these college campuses, I was under a false assumption that everybody would want to have a conversation about their ideas.
00:03:10.000 And the vast majority of left-wing activists are not interested in dialogue.
00:03:14.000 Some are, most are not.
00:03:16.000 They find speech to be annoying, threatening.
00:03:20.000 They would rather use power.
00:03:21.000 They do not believe that we are the speaking beings.
00:03:23.000 They do not want to have to use reason.
00:03:26.000 They'd rather say, I'm in charge, you're not.
00:03:28.000 I'm going to complain my way to the top and I'm going to put you in prison.
00:03:32.000 Their quest for power, their quest for their naked quest for power supersedes the rule of law.
00:03:40.000 It also supersedes decency.
00:03:44.000 And so we've seen at every possible level Donald Trump facing multiple indictments.
00:03:50.000 Bannon, D'Souza, O'Keefe, Giuliani.
00:03:54.000 It's across the board.
00:03:56.000 Now, I don't have to remind you, Hillary Clinton walks free. 1.00
00:04:00.000 Anthony Fauci walks free.
00:04:01.000 James Comey walks free.
00:04:03.000 Amy McCabe walks free.
00:04:06.000 And they're most likely not going to be held accountable anytime soon.
00:04:10.000 Hunter Biden signs a little document.
00:04:12.000 Lois Lerner walks free.
00:04:13.000 Loretta Lynch walks free.
00:04:14.000 Bill Clinton walks free.
00:04:17.000 Epstein's entire network walks free.
00:04:23.000 The pharmaceutical companies walk free.
00:04:25.000 I'm not doing this just to fire you up.
00:04:26.000 I'm making a point that is true.
00:04:31.000 What happened yesterday in some way is even more infuriating and unjust than what they're doing against Donald Trump.
00:04:43.000 What they're doing against Trump was unprecedented, historic, never seen it before.
00:04:47.000 But what they've done now in Michigan is to go after you.
00:04:52.000 You've probably seen that meme before.
00:04:55.000 They're coming after me because they want to come after you and I'm just in the way.
00:04:59.000 It's one of Donald Trump's most persuasive one-liners, and it's totally true.
00:05:03.000 Well, they're no longer not going after you.
00:05:06.000 In Michigan, yesterday, the Attorney General has announced criminal charges, a pile of felonies against Trump-supporting senior citizens.
00:05:17.000 16 people in Michigan were indicted by the state's far-left attorney general, Dana Nessel.
00:05:22.000 All the while, by the way, crime is up in Detroit.
00:05:25.000 Michigan's a disaster.
00:05:26.000 They are charged with eight felonies apiece because they signed a piece of paper.
00:05:33.000 That's right.
00:05:33.000 They signed a piece of paper to become alternate pro-Trump Electoral College electors.
00:05:40.000 Now, what is noteworthy here, and we'll go into the details of it, is why now?
00:05:47.000 Why is this all bubbling up now?
00:05:48.000 And it's obvious.
00:05:50.000 The alternate elector piece is critical to be able to prove Donald Trump, quote unquote, prove Donald Trump was a seditious conspiracist.
00:06:01.000 It is by no coincidence whatsoever that Donald Trump gets a letter from Jack Smith, and simultaneously, the Michigan Attorney General moves on these quote-unquote alternate electors.
00:06:18.000 I was talking to somebody the other day that was one of the good guys in the Department of Justice.
00:06:23.000 He's left and he's now running his own law firm.
00:06:27.000 He's a good guy.
00:06:28.000 He tries to fight the bad guys every single day.
00:06:30.000 And I was texting with him.
00:06:32.000 I said, what is going on here?
00:06:33.000 And he's not a Trump fan, by the way, but he is a rule of law fan.
00:06:35.000 He thinks it's ridiculous what's happening to Trump.
00:06:38.000 And he said, Charlie, he said, I was in the DOJ for a decade.
00:06:41.000 He said, the coordination between state attorney generals and the Department of Justice is next level totalitarian horrifying.
00:06:53.000 That's from a guy who served in Attorneys General.
00:06:58.000 This is a guy who served in the DOJ for 10 years.
00:07:01.000 I said, what do you mean?
00:07:02.000 He said, Charlie, we have not seen this level of coordination since 9-11.
00:07:09.000 We have not seen this level of orchestration between state attorney generals and the federal government since 9-11, where everyone was on the same page.
00:07:23.000 Everyone was working as if it was like this organized counterterrorism unit.
00:07:28.000 And a theme that we've been building out on this program is we lost our principles and lost our mind after 9-11.
00:07:38.000 We are still living in a post-9-11 world where we decided to forsake the Constitution and forsake the idea of natural rights all because we were afraid of another terror attack.
00:07:51.000 22 years later, we are now living in a totalitarian country, largely because of our fearful reaction post-9-11.
00:08:03.000 But we've built that out, I think, rather comprehensively the last couple months.
00:08:09.000 So, what exactly did these people do?
00:08:12.000 Did these people burn down federal courthouses?
00:08:16.000 Did these people create an autonomous zone in downtown Seattle?
00:08:22.000 Did these people burn loot and murder like BLM did?
00:08:26.000 Did these people scam a bunch of donors from all 50 states like BLM did and use it for personal security and personal expenses?
00:08:34.000 Did these people launder money from Romania and Eastern European countries and get wire transfers from the mayor of Moscow's wife?
00:08:40.000 Did these people go to China and compromise American policy for their own benefit?
00:08:48.000 No, these people signed a piece of paper.
00:08:52.000 They signed a piece of paper that, by the way, had strong legal precedent.
00:08:57.000 The eight felonies allegedly include forgery, conspiracy to commit forgery, and violations of Michigan election law.
00:09:07.000 The felonies combined carry maximum penalties of 85 years in prison.
00:09:13.000 Every single person charged is over 50 years old.
00:09:16.000 11 of the 16 are over 65, and one is over 80.
00:09:21.000 Before I go any further, let me just say the obvious.
00:09:24.000 This is sadistic.
00:09:27.000 This is administered by people that enjoy seeing everyday Americans suffer.
00:09:35.000 It's not going to get better.
00:09:38.000 This is secret police tactics, and they're coming after it in a bottom-up, top-down approach.
00:09:43.000 Go after the leader, persecute the rank and file.
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00:10:26.000 What is the essence of this criminal charge?
00:10:28.000 It involves Donald Trump.
00:10:29.000 So they need to try to indict the electors to try to make it seem as if Donald Trump was trying to overthrow the government through this alternate elector theory.
00:10:37.000 So what exactly is the alternate elector theory?
00:10:40.000 Let me say this.
00:10:41.000 We're going to get wonky into the legal aspect of it, but let me also just talk as plainly as I can.
00:10:47.000 This idea that signing a piece of paper because there might have been disputed election results sent back to the state legislatures that you're somehow Timothy McVay is preposterous. 0.81
00:11:00.000 They're treating these people with more criminal weight, more criminal heaviness from the state than BLM and Tifa, people that have destroyed the fabric of the country.
00:11:17.000 So here's what happened. 0.57
00:11:20.000 If you remember, in December 2016, while Donald Trump was disputing the results of the 2020 election, no, that's not right.
00:11:28.000 In December of 2020, while Donald Trump was disputing the result of the 2020 election, 16, the reason is because there's too many 16s, okay, 16 electors, it's the whole thing.
00:11:42.000 16 Michigan Republicans signed and submitted their own electoral vote tallies for the state.
00:11:47.000 They said that actually Trump had won the state of Michigan.
00:11:50.000 And so they were legitimate electors and they were casting their ballot on behalf of Trump for the Electoral College.
00:11:55.000 Now, where did they get such an idea like this?
00:11:58.000 They did this for a very specific reason.
00:12:01.000 The Constitution and federal law describes how the Electoral College is supposed to work.
00:12:05.000 Specifically, the electors are to assemble on the first Monday after the second Wednesday, December, to cast their votes for president.
00:12:12.000 Then those votes are collected on paper and sent to Washington, D.C., where they are counted by the vice president during a session of Congress.
00:12:21.000 That was on January the 6th, as you might remember.
00:12:26.000 So the idea was this: while Trump was continuing to pursue every possible angle to contest the 2020 race, he needed to make sure that his electors were still around and presenting themselves as valid electors.
00:12:37.000 Otherwise, the court could say, well, there was only one slate of electors that was sent.
00:12:41.000 Too bad.
00:12:42.000 And so in the contested states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, New Mexico, the Trump campaign collected the slates of Trump electors, just signing a piece of paper who testified that they were valid electors.
00:12:55.000 Now, in her press conference, Dana Nessel presents this as some sort of sinister secret conspiracy.
00:13:04.000 But this was all done very openly.
00:13:05.000 In fact, they posted the pictures on Twitter, including in Arizona as well.
00:13:11.000 The Michigan delegation literally went down to the state capitol building the TV cameras, saying, if there is evidence to show that this was an illegitimate election, we're putting forth this elector slate so that you could be chosen.
00:13:24.000 But this is the kicker.
00:13:25.000 There's actually a legal precedent for this.
00:13:29.000 So the Michigan Attorney General is going after MAGA moms and MAGA grannies because they want to demoralize you. 0.99
00:13:36.000 They want you afraid. 0.87
00:13:37.000 This is exactly what Mao did.
00:13:39.000 It's exactly what Stalin did.
00:13:41.000 They want you to be afraid of the knock on the door, the IRS, the ATF, the FBI, the DHS. 0.71
00:13:48.000 And I have a secondary point on that I'll make in a second.
00:13:52.000 But the legal aspect of this, in the 1960 presidential election, we were talking about this a lot while this was happening between Richard Nixon and JFK.
00:14:01.000 The state of Hawaii was extremely close.
00:14:03.000 Nixon was ahead on election night and the days that follow and the days that followed.
00:14:08.000 So his three electors were certified as the official ones in the state.
00:14:12.000 But Kennedy supporters were contesting that he had actually won the state of Hawaii.
00:14:17.000 So as part of that dispute, JFK electors got together and signed pieces of paper almost identical to the ones that were signed in Michigan and Arizona.
00:14:26.000 And they sent in those electors.
00:14:28.000 Ultimately, in 1960, Kennedy's alternate slate of electors ended up getting the electoral votes.
00:14:37.000 Kennedy's Hawaii electors wrote that they were in, quote, duly and legally appointed and qualified members of the Electoral College for the state.
00:14:44.000 They submitted an envelope containing their votes, which said, quote, we hereby certify that the list of these states of the state of Hawaii given for president are contained herein.
00:14:53.000 They make zero mention of the state's ongoing recount or the fact that Nixon's vote slate had been certified as the official one.
00:15:00.000 That's what's happened in 1960.
00:15:02.000 And guess what?
00:15:02.000 It worked.
00:15:03.000 The recount eventually found that JFK had won by 150 votes.
00:15:08.000 The state's newly installed governor retracted the prior certification and submitted a new one in favor of John F. Kennedy.
00:15:17.000 And when the electoral votes were counted in Congress by Nixon himself, he counted the Kennedy votes.
00:15:23.000 So basically in 1960, it looked like Nixon was going to take Hawaii.
00:15:28.000 Just like in 2020, it looked like Joe Biden was taking these states.
00:15:32.000 And there were still a lot of questions about ballot access and constitutional measures and drop boxes and voter signature issues and mules.
00:15:41.000 I mean, there were more questions than there were answers.
00:15:43.000 And so 1960 set a precedent that you're able to send two slates of electors until you figure out what the heck is going on.
00:15:51.000 That is now considered to be a felony in the state of Michigan.
00:15:55.000 It's a preposterous legal argument, but it's not about the legal argument.
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00:16:43.000 Boy, there's a lot more to go into with this alternate elector.
00:16:46.000 Can you imagine you sign a piece of paper with precedent in 1960 because you have an election that was conducted unlike any other?
00:16:53.000 And you say, oh, yeah, you know, there might be some issues with this.
00:16:57.000 Jail.
00:16:57.000 That's the answer.
00:16:59.000 Throw you in jail.
00:17:00.000 And it's not about the details of it.
00:17:02.000 It's because you support the wrong political candidate.
00:17:05.000 So in Michigan, they're going after everyday ordinary folks that thought there might be a chance to first be an elector in the Electoral College.
00:17:17.000 They signed a piece of paper.
00:17:19.000 JFK set a precedent for this in the Richard Nixon election.
00:17:24.000 Here's a very important line from a politico story about what happened in 1960.
00:17:29.000 One reason that Kennedy votes were counted was because of a state judge's ruling just two days before the vote tallying in Congress.
00:17:34.000 Quote, Judge Ronald Jameson agreed that the certified Kennedy electors were legitimate.
00:17:42.000 But more significantly, Jameson said it was important that those electors met and gathered on December 19th, 1960, as prescribed by the Electoral Vote Count Act, or the Electoral Count Act.
00:17:54.000 Rather than suggest the Democrat electors committed fraud, the judge pointed to their meeting as a key step and preserved their ability to be counted after the recount showed Kennedy had actually won the state.
00:18:09.000 Jameson also threw out an effort by the GOP electors to scrap the entire election because of voter fraud allegations.
00:18:17.000 So remember, Donald Trump said peacefully and patriotically march to the Capitol.
00:18:24.000 Do we have that tape?
00:18:25.000 I think we asked for it earlier.
00:18:27.000 I don't see it on the cut sheet.
00:18:29.000 But that's important.
00:18:30.000 So they're trying to go after him for January the 6th related events.
00:18:34.000 Donald Trump said peacefully and patriotically march to the Capitol.
00:18:39.000 He also made a video where he said, go home, stop doing this.
00:18:45.000 So they can't get him on quote-unquote incitement because thankfully we still have some semblance of a First Amendment where incitement cases are very difficult to win in court, even difficult in D.C.
00:18:57.000 So instead, they're going to go after seditious conspiracy.
00:19:01.000 I have not seen, no one's seen Jack Smith's indictment except Jack Smith and his group of thugs working with him.
00:19:06.000 But let me tell you what is likely going to be on it.
00:19:09.000 And I read 18 hours a day on this stuff.
00:19:12.000 Here's what the indictment is likely going to be.
00:19:15.000 Donald J. Trump embarked on a multi-month project to subvert American democracy.
00:19:22.000 Even though we're a Republic, this is what they're going to say.
00:19:23.000 American democracy.
00:19:25.000 By doing so, he met with fledgling legal minds such as Tom Fitton and Sidney Powell and John Eastman to pursue every possible avenue to remain in power despite the fact he knew he wasn't going to win.
00:19:39.000 That's exactly why they asked Jared Kushner in the grand jury meeting: did Donald Trump know he lost?
00:19:47.000 This is super important, everybody.
00:19:49.000 The reason they asked Jared Kushner that is because if they are able to get a single person to say, and Jared is great, I have a great relationship with him.
00:19:57.000 I just saw him at Bedminster.
00:19:59.000 And again, that's a leak out of the grand jury.
00:20:01.000 It just goes to show, but they're trying to create the preconditions here.
00:20:04.000 If somebody is going to say, oh, yeah, Donald Trump knew he lost, then they're able to say that he was pursuing this with fraudulent intent.
00:20:13.000 So the indictment will then say the alternate electors is what Jack Smith considers to be the strongest piece of his case.
00:20:26.000 Because then he'll be able to say that through pressure of his campaign, phone calls that he made, to example, they're going to say from Kelly Ward or whatever, it shows a quote-unquote conspiracy, not just a sudden out-of-control riot that happened on January 6th that was filled with federal agents.
00:20:44.000 It shows pre-planning, meeting, communication, and they're creating a narrative.
00:20:50.000 And this is why the Georgia indictment matters.
00:20:52.000 All of this is symmetrical.
00:20:54.000 None of this is by mistake, and it's all orchestrated against Donald J. Trump and you.
00:21:00.000 It also has a secondary impact that I'll keep on repeating, which is they want you intimidated, scared, afraid, and to say no more and give up.
00:21:08.000 But that's the more obvious take.
00:21:10.000 Let's just get to the legal one.
00:21:12.000 If they're able to have the Georgia case where Donald Trump made a perfectly fine phone call to Brad Rothensberger saying, I want you to find the votes, Professor Alan Dershowitz made the best argument ever in that, which is I want you to find votes, not make up votes or create them, find to seek things that already exist, perfectly fine, nothing wrong with it.
00:21:32.000 But Fannie Willis and her other group of state-based thugs in the state of Georgia, in Fulton County, they're not going to be convinced or persuaded by that.
00:21:40.000 And then you have Jack Smith, who, if you look at kind of how he's triaging, he's not able to say that Donald Trump incited it, tough to do that.
00:21:50.000 He's not able to say that Donald Trump was throwing over the government through violent means.
00:21:55.000 He never met with the oath keepers, and I don't even know what the oath keepers were doing, but they were charged with seditious conspiracy, so they can't say that.
00:22:01.000 So instead, they have to go to other ones because there are clips like this that would weaken Jack Smith's case, Play Cut 75.
00:22:10.000 Everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.
00:22:19.000 And then, of course, 76.
00:22:21.000 This does not help Jack Smith's case, Play Cut 76.
00:22:24.000 I know you hurt.
00:22:26.000 We had an election that was stolen from us.
00:22:30.000 It was a landslide election, and everyone knows it, especially the other side.
00:22:36.000 But you have to go home now.
00:22:38.000 We have to have peace.
00:22:40.000 We have to have law and order.
00:22:41.000 We have to respect our great people in law and order.
00:22:45.000 We don't want anybody hurt.
00:22:48.000 So that doesn't help Jack Smith's case.
00:22:50.000 So if he, again, this is not, this is not how justice is supposed to be administered.
00:22:56.000 You're not supposed to sit in a room and have a desired objective and try to figure out a way that you could create a case against a citizen.
00:23:03.000 This is so backwards.
00:23:05.000 It's so totalitarian.
00:23:06.000 It's so Maoist.
00:23:08.000 It's so Soviet, where you're like, I hate this person.
00:23:11.000 Let's figure out a way to try to put him in federal prison for 400 years. 0.96
00:23:14.000 So they're throwing everything they can up against the wall.
00:23:17.000 And so they've kind of gone through a triage where they might have thought the easiest way is, oh my goodness, of course, it's the speech.
00:23:23.000 It's the riot.
00:23:24.000 It's the day of.
00:23:25.000 And that case is actually weaker than they thought.
00:23:28.000 So, the case they think is the strongest, which is super weak and awful, but this is in their own perverted legal mind, is the alternate electors.
00:23:40.000 Because it checks different boxes where the defense against the speech and the day of is things got out of control.
00:23:47.000 That wasn't the intent.
00:23:49.000 People's passions went above and beyond.
00:23:51.000 Donald Trump had nothing to do with it.
00:23:53.000 He created distance.
00:23:54.000 He disavowed.
00:23:56.000 He sent out tweets, for example, saying, I'm asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful, no violence.
00:24:01.000 Remember, we are the party of law and order, respect the law, and our great men and women in blue.
00:24:05.000 Thank you.
00:24:06.000 So that makes Jack Smith's case harder.
00:24:09.000 So, but then Jack Smith said, Oh, no, no, give me a little time.
00:24:15.000 And so then you have these MAGA moms and MAGA dads and MAGA grandparents who signed a piece of paper.
00:24:23.000 And they have all these loosely written election laws in all these key states where they'll say, okay, if we indict them in the key states, we'll then be able to have the prerequisite to say Donald Trump was the mastermind to subvert the election via alternate electors.
00:24:43.000 That's what's really going on here.
00:24:45.000 It's all coordinated. 0.98
00:24:49.000 And yes, they're doing this because these are sick people. 1.00
00:24:52.000 These are sadists. 0.99
00:24:53.000 These are people that do not know the Lord. 0.94
00:24:56.000 These are people that I think are filled with unclean spirits.
00:24:59.000 How could you possibly live with yourself to administer indictments against an 81-year-old that signed a piece of paper that went nowhere, by the way, with a legal precedent in 1960?
00:25:13.000 Do you think, I mean, you look, can we get the names here?
00:25:16.000 And by the way, there's got to be some legal fund.
00:25:18.000 This is not my expertise.
00:25:20.000 Somebody's got to set up a legal fund.
00:25:22.000 I will donate it.
00:25:23.000 I will donate.
00:25:24.000 Turning point will donate.
00:25:25.000 All of you should donate.
00:25:26.000 Somebody who's ethical that's not going to do the Avenati thing needs to swoop in and create a legal defense fund for these poor patriots in Michigan that signed a piece of paper.
00:25:38.000 And by the way, I'm going to read their names out because they're already public.
00:25:42.000 You should pray for these people and whatever has to be done to help them.
00:25:45.000 Again, I'm not the legal mastermind here.
00:25:48.000 They're doing, and just by the way, the age is significant here.
00:25:53.000 These people are probably living on social security and fixed income.
00:25:57.000 These are patriots that want a beautiful future for their kids or grandkids. 1.00
00:26:01.000 And you have this demented jerk from Michigan who says, I want to see you suffer. 1.00
00:26:07.000 These are bad people running our country. 1.00
00:26:10.000 Kathy Burden, 70 years old of Snover.
00:26:14.000 William Hank Choate, 72 of Cement City.
00:26:18.000 Amy Facciolo, Facinello, 55 of Grand Blanc.
00:26:22.000 Clifford Frost, 75 of Warren.
00:26:24.000 Stanley Grott, 71 of Shelby Township.
00:26:27.000 John Haggard, 82, 82 years old.
00:26:31.000 How many of these people are veterans, by the way, that serve their country?
00:26:34.000 I bet a fair amount of them of Charles Voy.
00:26:39.000 Never pronounced that right.
00:26:40.000 Great place, though.
00:26:40.000 Marianne Henry, 65 of Brighton.
00:26:44.000 Timothy King, 56 of Yipsilenti.
00:26:47.000 Michelle Lundgren, 73 of Detroit.
00:26:51.000 Mishon Maddock, 55 years old of Milford.
00:26:54.000 James Renner, 76 of Lansing.
00:26:56.000 Myra Rodriguez, 64 of Gross Point Farms.
00:27:00.000 Rose Rook, 81 of Papa.
00:27:03.000 She's literally from a place called Papa.
00:27:05.000 81 years old.
00:27:07.000 81 years old.
00:27:09.000 Marion Sheridan, 69 of West Bloomfield.
00:27:14.000 Ken Thompson, 68 of Orleans.
00:27:16.000 Kent Vanderwood, 69 of Wyoming.
00:27:19.000 What threat do these people pose?
00:27:21.000 None.
00:27:22.000 Zero.
00:27:24.000 They're being dragged out three years after the fact for a Moscow show trial, and these people are going to have to go bankrupt and take up third mortgages on their home.
00:27:32.000 And they're 81 years old, and they're going to have to go in front of a grand jury of the state, not a grand jury, but a jury of the state of Michigan and say, no, I'm actually an insurrection.
00:27:41.000 They have an unlimited budget in the Michigan state government to punish these people.
00:27:45.000 And there is a psychological element besides the Donald Trump one.
00:27:49.000 And I'm going to just state the obvious that you're all thinking.
00:27:51.000 But if you think you can hide from these people, you're wrong.
00:27:54.000 They will come after every single one of us.
00:27:56.000 There is no hiding.
00:27:57.000 Decide now.
00:27:58.000 Do you want the country or not?
00:28:00.000 If, by the way, if the answer is no, that's fine.
00:28:02.000 Just get out of the way and let us go win this thing. 0.86
00:28:08.000 They're trying to break your will.
00:28:10.000 And look, I totally acknowledge the turning point team, we are a different breed.
00:28:16.000 Some people, you know, normal people say there's something wrong with you.
00:28:19.000 Well, you might think that because we don't give up, we lean in.
00:28:21.000 You understand?
00:28:22.000 We got team members here.
00:28:23.000 They're like on no sleep since, no, that's Mr. Terrell here.
00:28:27.000 No sleep since ACTCON.
00:28:30.000 As General Patton would say, lead, follow, or get out of the way.
00:28:33.000 This is not happy talk time.
00:28:34.000 Okay?
00:28:35.000 It's not, well, you know, every, you know, that's, Senator, I steal this from Steve Bannon's shtick, and I couldn't stop laughing during our podcast interview.
00:28:44.000 And I mean, Tim Scott is a really sweet man, but you know, when Tim Scott says, and it's morning in America, yeah, no, it's not.
00:28:52.000 It's like the thick of night with a dense fog, and we have no idea what the hell is going on.
00:28:58.000 It's not morning in America.
00:29:00.000 It can be if we defeat this parasitic movement, there's no hiding.
00:29:06.000 And a lot of people say, well, Charlie, I just want to go watch the Dallas Cowboys and have a beer and raise my kids.
00:29:13.000 And I miss the country.
00:29:14.000 We all miss it.
00:29:17.000 But you should understand, it's rare to have a country that's decent.
00:29:21.000 It's rare to have a beautiful place.
00:29:25.000 That doesn't mean you should be unhappy.
00:29:27.000 Every day, you need me to make a choice to be happy and joyful and to be a happy warrior.
00:29:31.000 But yes, there will be times where I get my blood boiling to a fever pitch.
00:29:36.000 And this is one of these days.
00:29:38.000 Also, where are the Republican attorney generals indicting anyone on the Democrat side?
00:29:43.000 Do you notice they do nothing?
00:29:44.000 BLM, not indicted.
00:29:45.000 Antifa, not indicted.
00:29:47.000 Any of the crime syndicates on the left?
00:29:49.000 And yet the Democrats enthusiastically indict these patriots.
00:29:54.000 I'm just going to name their first names again.
00:29:56.000 Kathy, William, Amy, Clifford, Stanley, John, Marianne, Timothy, Michelle, Michon, James, Myra, Rose, Marion, Ken, Kent, ages 69, 68, 69, 81, 64, 76, 55, 73, 56, 65, 82, 71, 75, 55, 72, 70.
00:30:12.000 They want them to die in jail.
00:30:15.000 The Michigan Attorney General wants to give a death sentence to people that sign a piece of paper of which there was an open legal question and a specific legal precedent in 1960.
00:30:25.000 You know how it was a legal question?
00:30:27.000 Congress just had to pass a law this last session saying the vice president doesn't have the authority to choose alternate electors.
00:30:34.000 If Congress had to pass a law, what the heck does that mean?
00:30:38.000 That means it was an open question.
00:30:40.000 And again, why now?
00:30:42.000 Why now?
00:30:42.000 This all interlocks.
00:30:44.000 Donald Trump gets a letter on Sunday night saying he's a target of the grand jury.
00:30:48.000 But that means, I'm telling you, you could take it to the bank.
00:30:51.000 I'm making the prediction.
00:30:52.000 When Jack Smith releases his indictment against Donald Trump, we'll read it here on air.
00:30:56.000 Alternate electors will be the core piece of the seditious conspiracy.
00:31:00.000 So they needed to have people simultaneously under indictment.
00:31:05.000 Why? 0.93
00:31:05.000 Because they want one of those MAGA grannies who's probably facing bankruptcy and has zero financial muscle to quote unquote testify against Donald Trump. 0.93
00:31:17.000 That's what's happening here. 0.97
00:31:18.000 It's an interstate RICO mob operation where they're going to take one of those people, God bless them, who's going to be afraid to the moon, who's going to see their life savings and their Roth IRA get absolutely obliterated by the unlimited purse of the Michigan government to say, oh, yeah, actually, I got a phone call from the Trump campaign.
00:31:38.000 I felt Trump, I felt pressure by Trump, and boom, Jack Smith will have his testimony he needs to put Donald Trump in federal prison for 400 years.
00:31:47.000 That's what's going on here.
00:31:49.000 That's why it needed to be orchestrated.
00:31:50.000 They needed to.
00:31:51.000 These people got indicted on felonies, facing 60 to 70 years in prison.
00:31:58.000 And I have to be told by Mike Pence and Chris Christie, well, we just have to trust our justice system.
00:32:04.000 We have to trust our justice system.
00:32:07.000 I finally figured out why they're running for president, by the way.
00:32:10.000 I finally figured it out.
00:32:12.000 And it happened at ACTCON.
00:32:14.000 They are not running to become president.
00:32:16.000 They know deep down in their soul.
00:32:17.000 They're running so that the bad guys don't come after them.
00:32:24.000 That's why they're running.
00:32:25.000 It's not even about vanity.
00:32:26.000 It's not about pride or ego.
00:32:27.000 That's part of it.
00:32:28.000 They're running so that they can be oligarchs in the Vichy French.
00:32:35.000 Seth Williams will say, oh, no, no, no, no.
00:32:37.000 Remember, I did my part.
00:32:40.000 I told them I tried to stop Trump.
00:32:43.000 Don't indict me.
00:32:43.000 Don't audit me.
00:32:44.000 Let me go give meaningless speeches at Lincoln-Reagan Day dinners, giving platitudes and abstractions.
00:32:51.000 I was on the right side of history.
00:32:52.000 Don't come after me.
00:32:53.000 They're doing this as a massive self-preservation exercise.
00:32:58.000 That's why they're doing it.
00:32:59.000 Yeah, ego pride, private jets around the world, donor-funded steak dinners.
00:33:04.000 They want to make sure the beast doesn't swallow them.
00:33:10.000 That is not how patriots act.
00:33:14.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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