The Charlie Kirk Show - November 24, 2021


Ahmaud Arbery and the State of Black America with Officer Brandon Tatum


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Brandon Tatum joins Charlie to discuss the acquittals in the Ahmad Arbery case, the Black Lives Matter movement, and his new book, Beaten Black and Blue. He also explains why he thinks the police should be funded.

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00:00:00.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, the Ahmad Arbery guilty verdicts have come in.
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00:02:26.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:26.000 Hey, everybody.
00:02:28.000 With us is a good friend of mine and a great American, Brandon Tatum.
00:02:31.000 Brandon, welcome back.
00:02:32.000 What's up, Charlie?
00:02:32.000 How you doing, man?
00:02:33.000 You have a new book coming out, or momentarily, I guess you could say people can pre-order it and they should.
00:02:38.000 Beaten black and blue.
00:02:39.000 Tell us about it.
00:02:40.000 Yeah, so I wrote a book about policing in America.
00:02:42.000 You know, not many people are writing about these things, and not many police officers have the voice and the platforms to be able to speak on their behalf.
00:02:49.000 And so I said, you know what?
00:02:50.000 I want to write this book.
00:02:51.000 And this is a book that was in my heart when I was a police officer several years ago.
00:02:55.000 And I said, you know what?
00:02:55.000 It's a time and place that I'm going to write the book and defend law enforcement officers, dispel myths of police coming from slave patrols.
00:03:01.000 And, you know, what is police brutality versus not?
00:03:04.000 What is going to be the real effect of defunding the police?
00:03:06.000 And I interviewed five police officers that are incredible men who've served all across the country.
00:03:11.000 And I think it's an incredible book for people that want to hear the voices of police officers and hear an articulable response to some of the naysayers.
00:03:20.000 Yeah, and we obviously see a war on police, and it's going in different in every community.
00:03:25.000 What do you think is the main driving force behind that?
00:03:27.000 Because it's not even that popular in the black community to get rid of police.
00:03:30.000 Well, you know, I think that it's political.
00:03:32.000 A lot of people like to promote something that make you feel good, it gets you emotionally charged, and it has no real positive effect.
00:03:40.000 It is no rational reason to defund police in any circumstance.
00:03:43.000 If anything, they want to fund the police for the things that they complain about.
00:03:46.000 You want to get them better training.
00:03:47.000 You want to make sure they're equipped.
00:03:49.000 You want to be able to hire more police officers who are qualified, who represent the community.
00:03:53.000 So I think it's all political, man.
00:03:55.000 I think that when black people get killed by police, there's an emotional charge and there's an emotional financial benefit, right? 0.99
00:04:02.000 You get people charged up, people make a lot of money that's invested in race hustling. 0.91
00:04:07.000 And I think they use that to get leveraged to votes, but they don't have a solid, a real perspective.
00:04:14.000 Yeah, so since all the Floyd stuff, which you came out really strong and you deserve to be credit for that, you were super courageous on that.
00:04:20.000 We've seen murder rates go up dramatically across the country.
00:04:23.000 It's been the Floyd effect, basically.
00:04:25.000 You know, with that one incident, now we see inner cities more dangerous than ever.
00:04:29.000 Even Phoenix is having an increase in crime.
00:04:33.000 And this goes to show that bad ideas in this war on police is not just something that should be refuted, but it's actually making America more dangerous.
00:04:42.000 Right.
00:04:43.000 And I think that's with anything.
00:04:44.000 You know, these bad ideas from people who don't come from a good, you know, I would say godly place.
00:04:49.000 They don't come from a good place of moral character and love for the country.
00:04:53.000 They create these ideas to get votes and then they leave you out the dry.
00:04:56.000 I mean, like I said, you know, when you look at George Floyd, you know, in the perspective of reality, that's a one-off.
00:05:04.000 Even in that particular city, that's a one-off.
00:05:06.000 You cannot find another case that a black man has been put in that situation similar to George Floyd.
00:05:10.000 I could tell you a white guy that nobody would ever cover.
00:05:12.000 Tony Templar.
00:05:13.000 Tony Templar.
00:05:14.000 Nobody would ever cover that.
00:05:15.000 However, it's a one-off.
00:05:16.000 And these police brutality situations are one-offs.
00:05:19.000 You know, police patrol, you know, they have contact with over 300 million people a year.
00:05:23.000 There's no research, there's no study that can suggest that they're disproportionately affecting black people.
00:05:29.000 And so with this one-off, they've completely destroyed the reputation of law enforcement in America and it's making most communities unsafe.
00:05:36.000 So one of the cases that we're keeping a close eye on is the Ahmad Arbery case.
00:05:41.000 And you've actually done some studying on this.
00:05:44.000 What are the facts?
00:05:45.000 What's going on with that?
00:05:46.000 Because we were told that there was a young black man who wanted to be a cross-country athlete, who was going for a nice jog on a beautiful day, and white supremacists, Confederate sympathizing former police officers, pulled up in a car and hunted down this poor black man.
00:06:02.000 Yeah, you know, it's funny that you say that.
00:06:04.000 Where am I wrong?
00:06:05.000 Yeah, I mean, that's the narrative that's being pushed.
00:06:08.000 And unfortunately, even people on both sides, man, I get it from both sides.
00:06:11.000 I'm saying it.
00:06:12.000 I'm saying it sardonically, of course, but yeah.
00:06:14.000 Yeah, people from both sides criticize me because a lot of people are not looking at the facts of the case.
00:06:19.000 Emotionally, people look at it and say, he didn't deserve to die.
00:06:22.000 Well, that's up to God who deserves to die.
00:06:25.000 That ain't up to us.
00:06:26.000 And nobody can make that argument.
00:06:28.000 But the facts of this case is that Ahmad Arbery wasn't jogging on that day when he entered a structured, unoccupied city.
00:06:36.000 So go through all the facts of the case, right?
00:06:38.000 Because this is about to be a whole nother situation, right?
00:06:42.000 So what is in Georgia?
00:06:46.000 What's the facts of the case?
00:06:47.000 Because the way that most people think is that poor Amart Arbery going for a run and white supremacists hunt him down to the street.
00:06:53.000 So it's a lot to unravel, but let's start with the facts of the fact that Amar Arbery wasn't a jogger, which is being pushed in the media.
00:07:00.000 He wasn't a jogger.
00:07:01.000 There's no evidence of him jogging.
00:07:03.000 He has been in this community multiple times seen on camera in Larry English's house, which is the residence that people are, you know, that's the focus of the investigation.
00:07:12.000 He has been in there multiple times.
00:07:13.000 Over five times he's been spotted on camera and not one time he was jogging.
00:07:17.000 If anything, he's running after he's called and after he's identified by citizens in the community.
00:07:21.000 So he's not jogging.
00:07:23.000 On this particular day, he enters a structure that's not occupied.
00:07:27.000 He goes into the structure.
00:07:28.000 Neighbors see him.
00:07:30.000 He's on video camera.
00:07:31.000 Larry English, who's the homeowner, sees him on his camera.
00:07:34.000 The whole neighborhood is now picking up on the fact that this guy is back and he's now in the house after things have been stolen from that particular residence.
00:07:41.000 So he sees a citizen calling the police.
00:07:44.000 He runs.
00:07:45.000 After he runs, the citizen who called the police signaled to the neighbors.
00:07:49.000 Everybody sees him running down the street.
00:07:50.000 They identify him as a person whom they have interacted with before at this residence late at night.
00:07:56.000 They chase him.
00:07:57.000 They attempt to conduct a citizen's arrest.
00:07:59.000 In the state of Georgia, citizens can conduct a citizen's arrest.
00:08:02.000 You don't need to prove that a person has committed a crime.
00:08:05.000 You don't need to see them firsthand commit a crime.
00:08:07.000 All you need is reasonable suspicion that a person has committed a crime.
00:08:12.000 They say probable suspicion, reasonable suspicion that this person may have committed a crime.
00:08:16.000 In order to chase them, you have to have reasonable suspicion that they committed a felony crime.
00:08:21.000 In the state of Georgia, burglary is a felony.
00:08:24.000 Burglary only involves a person entering an occupied or unoccupied structure with the intent to take something.
00:08:32.000 People don't have to prove that he was going to take anything.
00:08:35.000 It's about suspicion.
00:08:36.000 They had suspicion based on what the defense has argued.
00:08:39.000 They chase him for, I don't know how many minutes, man.
00:08:42.000 They're chasing him all around the community.
00:08:44.000 He's running there.
00:08:44.000 He's running here.
00:08:45.000 No guns have been brandished.
00:08:46.000 No threats have been made, according to what the court documents say.
00:08:50.000 They corner him at some point.
00:08:51.000 He's running down the street.
00:08:53.000 McMichael, one of the son, the younger McMichael, steps out of his car with a gun.
00:08:57.000 One thing that people criticize, they didn't have a reason to have a gun.
00:09:00.000 Well, you don't lose your constitutional right to bear arms or to carry a firearm just because you're conducting a citizen's arrest.
00:09:05.000 You have a right in the state of Georgia to open carry a firearm. 0.99
00:09:09.000 And what idiot would chase a person down, conducting a lawful citizen's arrest and not carry a gun with you? 1.00
00:09:14.000 But if he has a gun in his hand. 1.00
00:09:15.000 And these are former police officers, right?
00:09:16.000 Well, at least the father was a former police officer, and the son was a former military.
00:09:21.000 And he trained.
00:09:23.000 He was in the military police.
00:09:25.000 So these people do have tactical experience.
00:09:28.000 So once they corner him, the biggest part of all of this is that he's running down the street.
00:09:32.000 He could have gone right, could have run left, could have run around him.
00:09:35.000 Once he rounds the truck, the McMichael's son is standing in the front of the truck with the shotgun.
00:09:39.000 Amar Arbery attacks him and they have a fight over the shotgun.
00:09:43.000 That's when multiple shots went off.
00:09:45.000 A few of them, you know, puncturing the body of Amar Arbery and he dies.
00:09:49.000 And because they are white and he's black, we're even talking about this at this point. 0.64
00:09:55.000 Because after the initial investigation, they weren't going to charge them because the facts and circumstances that were presented, they were justified in using force.
00:10:04.000 But after social justice warriors come out, they decide they're going to prosecute these guys and they become now white supremacists.
00:10:10.000 And then he becomes a jogger.
00:10:12.000 And so.
00:10:12.000 He's just trying to make the Olympic trial.
00:10:14.000 Right.
00:10:15.000 And you know, they argued that the prosecution argued that he was an avid jogger and that they had seen him jogging in the area, not in this community.
00:10:24.000 They've seen him jog in the direction of this community.
00:10:27.000 And that should be justification that he was just jogging an innocent man looking in somebody's property he shouldn't have been in just because he was out on a jog.
00:10:36.000 And when he left the residence, he was just jogging at a high rate of speed.
00:10:40.000 That's irrational.
00:10:41.000 He was running.
00:10:42.000 He was pretty fast, though, to be honest.
00:10:43.000 Yeah, and so it sounds like this is a young man, Ahmaud Arbery, who was breaking and entering.
00:10:49.000 Now, was this like a house under construction?
00:10:50.000 It was a house under construction.
00:10:52.000 It was being remodeled.
00:10:53.000 Yeah, so what was the potential?
00:10:55.000 Was he just there to kind of just take a look at it?
00:10:58.000 You know, what's the defense or prosecution saying about that?
00:10:58.000 Or what's the...
00:11:02.000 Well, the prosecution said he was just a person lingering around, just looking in the house with no intent to do anything.
00:11:06.000 Just because he was out on the street.
00:11:08.000 He was there multiple times, though, wasn't he?
00:11:09.000 That's what they don't want to bring up, even though they're forced to bring up because there's 911 calls from Larry Ingus, the homeowner.
00:11:15.000 There's multiple causes.
00:11:16.000 He's got on camera of him being in the city.
00:11:18.000 He's on camera four times, four different occasions of him being in that particular residence.
00:11:23.000 And he's been confronted by people in the community on other occasions.
00:11:27.000 And the police officers have case reports documenting these things.
00:11:31.000 So he's not just a jogger.
00:11:32.000 And they want to say he's a jogger.
00:11:34.000 Even if it's not occupied, you still don't have a right to be in somebody's dwelling.
00:11:39.000 And then there were thefts from that particular place.
00:11:42.000 You know, he has wood, he has tools, he has.
00:11:43.000 So they don't know if that was him that took it.
00:11:45.000 Yeah, they don't know.
00:11:46.000 They don't know if that was actually him that took it.
00:11:48.000 There were other thefts, so they had reasonable suspicion to believe that someone's there that shouldn't be there.
00:11:54.000 You could steal stuff.
00:11:55.000 Right.
00:11:55.000 So there were thefts from a particular boat that was there, things that were stolen off of the boat.
00:12:01.000 After the homeowner took the boat from the property, Ahmad Arbery appears there looking at a smaller boat.
00:12:08.000 So they can't prove that he stole it, but that's what for court an investigation is for.
00:12:13.000 But a reasonable person would believe that he could be responsible in these thefts that have gone on in their particular residence.
00:12:20.000 And so, but the prosecution is still kind of staying with their case that the McMichaels, is that their name right?
00:12:26.000 That they saw this and immediately they got on their racist hunt and they went for it.
00:12:26.000 McMichaels.
00:12:32.000 Now, there's another detail, though.
00:12:34.000 This chase went on for a while, didn't it?
00:12:36.000 It went on for a while.
00:12:37.000 You know, most people see the video, the amateur video from one of the other defendants in this case, and they're charging him too because somebody died while they were in the commission of an unlawful citizen's arrest, which is that that's what the prosecution is arguing.
00:12:50.000 But on the amateur video, you just see Amont Arbery running down the street, you see a car following him, and then you see the instance.
00:12:56.000 I mean, they were following him left, right, down the street, up the street.
00:12:56.000 That wasn't all.
00:13:00.000 He was hiding.
00:13:00.000 He was running here, running there.
00:13:02.000 They were literally virtually trying to corner him, waiting on the police to respond.
00:13:06.000 Police had been called before he left the residence.
00:13:09.000 So they called the police.
00:13:10.000 Not the McMichaels.
00:13:11.000 A neighbor called the police.
00:13:13.000 The McMichaels called the police once they were at the bottom of the street right before the shooting.
00:13:16.000 They called the police, say, look, we got him cornered on this street.
00:13:19.000 And then that's when he ran down the street and got into the altercation.
00:13:22.000 So there were multiple callers.
00:13:23.000 The McMichaels did call before there was a shooting.
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00:15:01.000 But this is another situation, isn't it, Brandon?
00:15:03.000 That if the police were properly funded and did their job, then it wouldn't take people to have to do this themselves.
00:15:11.000 It's kind of similar to Rittenhouse, right?
00:15:13.000 I mean, 2,000%.
00:15:15.000 I mean, this is citizens standing up for their communities.
00:15:18.000 And this is the thing.
00:15:19.000 I think people put too much emphasis on police as well.
00:15:22.000 I do think they need to have more police off so we don't get into these situations where professionals can get sloppy.
00:15:28.000 But we are responsible.
00:15:28.000 It can.
00:15:30.000 People, we're giving all of our power to the state.
00:15:32.000 We are responsible.
00:15:33.000 I agree completely.
00:15:33.000 Especially for defending our own homes.
00:15:35.000 That's why we have firearms to defend our own homes because we are ultimately responsible.
00:15:38.000 So they want to make it illegal to do that.
00:15:40.000 Because they want the state to have more power than you do.
00:15:40.000 Right.
00:15:43.000 They want the government to have more power than you do.
00:15:45.000 And if they eliminate, and this is my opinion, if they eliminate your guns, then you have to rely on the state.
00:15:50.000 If they eliminate the police, the municipal police, then now they send in or federalize your police department.
00:15:56.000 Yeah, so let's, so let's, I want to zero in on that.
00:15:58.000 I've said that for a while.
00:15:59.000 I say that they don't want to defund the police.
00:16:01.000 It's just a means to the end to create a woke FBI over everybody, like a national police force.
00:16:07.000 Well, you have to understand.
00:16:08.000 Municipal police are hired.
00:16:10.000 HR hired, city council approved, city manager.
00:16:14.000 All of those people approve the police chief.
00:16:17.000 The sheriff of the county is an elected official.
00:16:20.000 So there's a vested interest in saying, let's get rid of the municipal police.
00:16:25.000 And if you get rid of the municipality, the sheriff comes in and takes over.
00:16:29.000 They want you to believe if you get rid of the city cops that you don't have police.
00:16:33.000 No, the sheriff takes jurisdiction over the city.
00:16:36.000 It has happened in California on multiple occasions.
00:16:38.000 Smaller cities can't control the community. 0.90
00:16:40.000 The police are rogue.
00:16:41.000 They send in the county. 0.60
00:16:42.000 L.A. County has taken over plenty of cities.
00:16:45.000 And so that's what they're going to do.
00:16:47.000 They want to elect somebody that can control that.
00:16:51.000 Therefore, they don't have to go through.
00:16:52.000 They're a Soro-selected DA, whatever.
00:16:55.000 They can get a sheriff that can do what they want them to do.
00:16:57.000 That's the next best thing.
00:16:59.000 If a sheriff won't do it, they want to get rid of police and then have it federalized.
00:17:02.000 They can send in a National Guard.
00:17:04.000 They can use the FBI.
00:17:05.000 Like a woke, diversity, equity, inclusion thing.
00:17:08.000 That you can control from the White House.
00:17:11.000 And that would be the end of local government as we know it.
00:17:13.000 It's the end.
00:17:14.000 It's the end of the United States of America.
00:17:16.000 That's right.
00:17:17.000 No states rights.
00:17:17.000 It then becomes just a completely total, it would be the centralized states or centralized project of America or whatever.
00:17:24.000 That's what I believe leftists want ultimately.
00:17:28.000 They want central control from the White House.
00:17:30.000 So then they can get the person in office that they want, and then they can do what they're doing now.
00:17:36.000 Now, this is not an argument of election.
00:17:38.000 This is an argument of them putting somebody in place that's a puppet.
00:17:41.000 Oh, I totally agree.
00:17:42.000 And they also want to be able to use the threat of putting political dissidents in prison and allow their people to do whatever they want, right?
00:17:51.000 100%.
00:17:52.000 And so can you build this out?
00:17:53.000 Because a lot of people, and I struggle with this one, right?
00:17:57.000 Is, you know, let's talk about Austin, Texas.
00:18:01.000 Austin, Texas murders are up 88% year over year.
00:18:04.000 There was just a ballot referendum on the ballot to say, do you want to fund the police to the amount it used to be?
00:18:10.000 So to refund the police, essentially, not more.
00:18:13.000 And it lost off like dramatically by like 20 or 30 points.
00:18:19.000 How is that possible?
00:18:21.000 Well, because let's look at it like this.
00:18:22.000 You know, the general, look at voting.
00:18:26.000 I would argue that people who are lower, lower end, lower income, people who may be poor or illiterate are not the ones that are voting.
00:18:35.000 And the people that are in these need police, the communities that they need the police the most are probably not the ones who are registered to vote.
00:18:42.000 The people who are affluent, the people who are in the middle class, they're not engaging with police all the time.
00:18:48.000 They're rarely engaging with police.
00:18:50.000 So they're the woke ones that say, well, we don't need the police.
00:18:53.000 They're not helping our communities.
00:18:55.000 And then they believe the narrative that they're just killing all these minorities. 0.75
00:18:58.000 They're going around on horseback, just gunning people down. 0.88
00:18:58.000 And so they vote. 0.88
00:19:01.000 They vote on their behalf.
00:19:03.000 And then they dismantle the police.
00:19:05.000 But in the inner city, where some of these people are not voting, they're not registering to vote like they should.
00:19:10.000 They are not, their voice is not being heard.
00:19:12.000 They the ones need the police. 0.95
00:19:13.000 So yeah, in the black community, I can't imagine. 1.00
00:19:16.000 It's not, the police aren't as unpopular as I think we're told, right?
00:19:19.000 I mean, there's a general complaint, right?
00:19:21.000 There's a narrative.
00:19:22.000 There is a narrative, but people who actually are involved with the victims of these criminal encounters, they know the value of police.
00:19:32.000 You know, and correct me if I'm wrong, but there is like a driving wild black type narrative. 0.63
00:19:36.000 That's a thing, right?
00:19:37.000 I mean, that's.
00:19:38.000 Yeah, it's not a real thing, but it's a very important thing.
00:19:40.000 No, no, no, no.
00:19:41.000 It's a narrative, right?
00:19:42.000 You're 12 years old.
00:19:44.000 You live in Fulton County, Georgia, right?
00:19:46.000 You live in Dallas, you know, where you grew up.
00:19:47.000 And you're kind of told that, you know, there's be careful driving.
00:19:52.000 Right.
00:19:52.000 Because you might get gunned down by a police officer.
00:19:55.000 And it's, it's actually the most idiotic statement that can be made because it's untrue, not even statistically true. 1.00
00:19:55.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:20:00.000 Now, it's like the opposite of true.
00:20:02.000 Yeah, it's the complete opposite, especially in Atlanta.
00:20:05.000 I just was on a revolt summit, and the how'd that go?
00:20:08.000 It was horrible.
00:20:09.000 It was horrible.
00:20:10.000 I'm losing faith in the minority community after going to this thing because the exact same thing we're talking about now. 0.79
00:20:17.000 But the way you said it was hilarious.
00:20:18.000 Dude, it's true.
00:20:19.000 It's like the exact same thing that we're talking about now is what's being brainwashed into people. 0.98
00:20:23.000 And black political leaders are completely complicit. 0.94
00:20:28.000 I mean, there's no, think about this. 0.98
00:20:30.000 I could ask a group of black people, majority black people, and say, are you more afraid to go to the hospital and deal with a doctor in crisis?
00:20:38.000 Are you afraid to be in contact with a police officer?
00:20:42.000 99.9% say I'm more afraid of a police officer.
00:20:45.000 When medical malpractice kills 250,000 people a year, police kill a thousand people a year.
00:20:51.000 And we're talking about medical malpractice completely preventable. 0.94
00:20:53.000 Police killing people, there's a lot of dangerous, crazy people out there that deserve use of force. 0.77
00:20:58.000 Yeah, so I want to. 0.76
00:20:58.000 So, so you say you're, so tell me about this revolt thing. 0.76
00:21:01.000 You said you're losing hope in your political leaders?
00:21:03.000 Oh my God.
00:21:03.000 It was horrible, dude.
00:21:04.000 It was horrible.
00:21:05.000 What is it?
00:21:06.000 I'm super curious.
00:21:06.000 Tell us about it.
00:21:07.000 So I was at the revolt summit.
00:21:08.000 Candace Owens was there a few years ago, and T.I. was there.
00:21:11.000 So is it like a black political summit or something?
00:21:13.000 It's a black summit of all the ideas, right?
00:21:16.000 They have a Christian segment of it.
00:21:17.000 They have this was the segment that I was a part of of a panel of safety in the community.
00:21:22.000 It's what they called it.
00:21:23.000 Safety in the black community.
00:21:24.000 How many people were on the panel?
00:21:26.000 It was, I mean, it could have been like 10 people on the panel, way too many.
00:21:29.000 So it was a circus.
00:21:30.000 It was a circus. 0.69
00:21:31.000 But there were two black police officers that they, me and another guy, that they said, hey, come and represent the voice of black police officers.
00:21:37.000 Okay, so at least they did that today.
00:21:39.000 I will say this: the people who coordinated and got the speakers were legitimate folks.
00:21:44.000 The people they put on a panel were completely out of control.
00:21:47.000 The moderator was an activist, Ebony Williams.
00:21:50.000 She's a real housewife. 1.00
00:21:52.000 My wife told me about how trashy she is. 1.00
00:21:54.000 But then you had David Banner. 0.97
00:21:57.000 Not familiar.
00:21:57.000 Okay.
00:21:58.000 David Banner is one of the biggest rappers.
00:22:00.000 I mean, he's a little irrelevant.
00:22:02.000 But no, no.
00:22:02.000 He's probably not your time.
00:22:03.000 He's a little irrelevant now.
00:22:05.000 But back then, probably before your time when you were really young, he was the man.
00:22:09.000 So David Banner was there.
00:22:10.000 A couple of activists.
00:22:12.000 Benjamin Crump was there.
00:22:13.000 Very familiar.
00:22:14.000 You know, Benjamin Crump. 1.00
00:22:15.000 He's a moron. 1.00
00:22:15.000 That guy was there. 1.00
00:22:16.000 He didn't even talk much.
00:22:18.000 But regardless of that, dude, they're on the panel saying, this system ain't for us. 0.97
00:22:24.000 This system ain't for the black man. 1.00
00:22:26.000 One guy said, policing came from slave patrols. 0.92
00:22:30.000 Another guy said, there ain't no good police officers because the good ones don't say nothing about the bad ones.
00:22:35.000 And so none of y'all good.
00:22:37.000 Mind you, all the police officers that are patrolling and protecting this event are black Atlanta police officers. 0.89
00:22:46.000 More than half of the Atlanta Police Department are black people.
00:22:50.000 I would argue right now without even knowing. 0.98
00:22:51.000 I bet the chief is black of the Atlanta Police Department. 0.77
00:22:53.000 And I bet all the commanders. 0.99
00:22:54.000 The mayor's black. 0.97
00:22:55.000 So it's like, what are you even talking about? 0.93
00:22:55.000 I know that. 0.93
00:22:58.000 I get on the stage and I say, he finally gave me a chance to talk after an hour of them just being stupid. 1.00
00:23:03.000 I say, because they said the country don't belong to us. 0.99
00:23:06.000 The Constitution ain't going to belong to us.
00:23:08.000 Until we change these documents, the black man ain't going to never. 0.98
00:23:11.000 Mind you, David Banner has made millions of dollars in this system.
00:23:15.000 There was at least three or four people on the panel that had seven-figure net worth that have used this very system.
00:23:20.000 So true.
00:23:21.000 The revolt summit was sponsored, not by a black company, but by a white company, ATT. 0.99
00:23:27.000 So we need to get rid of all the white people and just focus on our community. 1.00
00:23:30.000 And y'all, and a black event is sponsored by a white company. 0.99
00:23:32.000 And they're making tons of money.
00:23:33.000 And they're raking it in.
00:23:35.000 And so, and I get at the last, I got fed up, man.
00:23:38.000 I said, this country belongs to us like anybody else.
00:23:42.000 Constitution belongs to us, that American flag.
00:23:44.000 That anthem belongs to us like anybody else.
00:23:46.000 Our forefathers died so we can have a position and a right in this country.
00:23:50.000 And they're doing all this stuff when I say that.
00:23:54.000 Martin Luther King, no, the audience food or like audience.
00:23:58.000 And then, you know, there's the audience.
00:24:00.000 You can hear them groaning.
00:24:02.000 And that's kind of an interactive audience thing, right?
00:24:05.000 And then the people on the panel, of course, they're doing the same thing.
00:24:05.000 Yeah.
00:24:08.000 The first thing that was said, and I wrote this in my book, debunking the myth that current police, government-funded police or state-funded police, are a subsection of slave patrols.
00:24:23.000 That was the first thing that David Banner said.
00:24:25.000 I said, that's not true.
00:24:26.000 That's not true.
00:24:27.000 And then they stopped me.
00:24:29.000 I said, you guys can do your research and determine who's right, me and him.
00:24:33.000 Then they stopped me on a panel and say, we're not going to tell lies on this panel.
00:24:38.000 It ain't a lie.
00:24:39.000 You said it.
00:24:40.000 I disagree.
00:24:40.000 They can do the research.
00:24:42.000 I wrote it in my book.
00:24:43.000 He's talking about his research.
00:24:44.000 I wrote a book about it.
00:24:45.000 Yes.
00:24:46.000 And so, you know, police didn't come from slave patrols.
00:24:49.000 And all of these things that they were saying were the exact same thing that you're referring to as the mental distortion of reality to black people.
00:24:59.000 And they don't experience it, but they push it on other black people. 0.90
00:25:01.000 Let me say this one thing.
00:25:02.000 They had mothers who were, their children were victims of homicide.
00:25:08.000 Let's leave it at that, right?
00:25:10.000 Police homicide?
00:25:10.000 No, no, no, homicide.
00:25:11.000 No, no.
00:25:12.000 You mean gang violence?
00:25:13.000 They say start with homicide.
00:25:13.000 No, no.
00:25:14.000 Well, I'm just, I'm not inferring anything on the street.
00:25:17.000 Guess what most of the homicides were?
00:25:19.000 Is it gang violence?
00:25:20.000 Gang violence.
00:25:21.000 I don't know. 0.99
00:25:22.000 Black on black violence. 0.99
00:25:22.000 No, no. 0.99
00:25:23.000 You don't have to suggest.
00:25:24.000 All you got to do is look at the stats.
00:25:25.000 Yeah, that's why I, yeah. 0.99
00:25:26.000 You know, 54% of all the homicides in this country are perpetuated by black men. 0.99
00:25:30.000 Black men only make up 6% of the population. 0.99
00:25:32.000 And we would argue that not every black man is a murderer. 0.97
00:25:35.000 So you have to say half. 0.99
00:25:36.000 We wouldn't even say half of black men are murderers. 0.97
00:25:38.000 So you got to say 1% of the population commit 54% of the murders. 0.98
00:25:42.000 I mean, that goes without saying. 0.99
00:25:44.000 96% of all the murders that are perpetuated by black people, the victims of those murders are black people. 0.99
00:25:51.000 You don't even have to talk about it. 0.99
00:25:52.000 It ain't even the inference.
00:25:53.000 Look at the stats. 1.00
00:25:54.000 Black people are killing each other far more than white people could ever dream of. 1.00
00:25:57.000 That's right. 1.00
00:25:57.000 And police could ever dream of. 1.00
00:25:59.000 It would take police officers, I don't know how many years, to keep up with the numbers of black on black murders. 1.00
00:26:03.000 So the moms were there as a statement or I don't, I think they wanted them to be.
00:26:09.000 Yeah.
00:26:09.000 But in reality.
00:26:10.000 Obviously, they're welcome.
00:26:11.000 I mean, yeah.
00:26:12.000 But they got a chance to speak.
00:26:13.000 And that's the thing they had a chance to speak.
00:26:15.000 And when they spoke, they spoke of how their kids were murdered by other black men, not by police. 0.52
00:26:21.000 Oh, wow.
00:26:21.000 And one of the ladies said, I know we talk a lot about police, but my baby was murdered by us.
00:26:28.000 And then one lady, unfortunately, and this speaks to the fatherless homes, I didn't get a chance to talk about that because, you know, they were just nutty the whole time. 0.94
00:26:34.000 But she was a single mom, and one of her kids had been murdered by another black man. 0.93
00:26:41.000 One of her kids murdered a black man and was doing life in prison.
00:26:46.000 I mean, where are they daddy at? 0.66
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00:27:51.000 So here's where I'm curious.
00:27:52.000 So the whole panel was black.
00:27:54.000 The whole what?
00:27:54.000 Is that correct?
00:27:55.000 Panel was black. 0.91
00:27:56.000 Everybody on the panel is black. 0.94
00:27:57.000 Okay.
00:27:58.000 So out of, you know, Ebony Williams, whatever, Benjamin Crump, did anyone mention fathers?
00:28:04.000 No.
00:28:05.000 No.
00:28:06.000 They mentioned leadership.
00:28:07.000 They did say.
00:28:08.000 I think Banner may have mentioned that we need more male influence. 0.95
00:28:13.000 Maybe that's what he's saying.
00:28:14.000 And that's as close as he got.
00:28:15.000 That's as close he got, but that wasn't the, that wasn't the primary, that wasn't the primary focus.
00:28:19.000 That was like, you know, we need this too, but.
00:28:22.000 But here's what, here, and there's so many different ways I want to go with this. 0.61
00:28:24.000 And you and Candace have pinpointed this, which is, I think deep down, the black community is not going to tolerate this like weak male kind of LGBT transgender. 1.00
00:28:34.000 Like, how, you know what I mean? 0.91
00:28:35.000 Like.
00:28:36.000 I hope not.
00:28:37.000 You know, I would like to believe that it won't.
00:28:39.000 But like, that's my gut.
00:28:41.000 But I don't know if the gut is right because I'm living a bubble and we both may live in a bubble.
00:28:46.000 Well, I totally live in a bubble.
00:28:47.000 I can't believe that.
00:28:48.000 Because all the black people I know are conservative.
00:28:50.000 And then, so I don't have a lot of experience and I don't live in a primarily black community.
00:28:54.000 So I don't know what most black people are feeling when you're exposed to a community of black people.
00:29:00.000 So I'm saying that to say, my experiences represent that I think that black people are more balanced than what we're getting credit for.
00:29:07.000 And that the voting does not reflect the black community.
00:29:09.000 And maybe that event was disproportionate, but I'm hoping.
00:29:11.000 But you're talking about like the people on the panel are doing an injustice to the average black citizen.
00:29:18.000 I'm hoping, man, because to be honest, I'm like, wait a minute.
00:29:21.000 Let's look at the voting.
00:29:23.000 We vote 90 plus percent for our oppressors.
00:29:26.000 That's right.
00:29:27.000 So it makes me feel like, well, wait a minute.
00:29:29.000 Am I giving too much credit?
00:29:30.000 And are we worse off than I think?
00:29:33.000 Because that summit wasn't the only place that I've been where it's a primarily black audience and they're completely out of touch.
00:29:39.000 Talk more about that.
00:29:40.000 Well, I went to Ryder University.
00:29:41.000 I remember that.
00:29:42.000 It was a turning point event.
00:29:43.000 Yeah, we got to get you back out for an HBCU. 0.78
00:29:45.000 I have to.
00:29:45.000 I have to.
00:29:46.000 This is invaluable.
00:29:47.000 Let's talk about that.
00:29:48.000 We will.
00:29:49.000 For the spring.
00:29:50.000 And so I went to Ryder University.
00:29:52.000 It was supposed to only be 50 students, Turning Point students.
00:29:54.000 450 shows.
00:29:56.000 It was a circus, man.
00:29:56.000 And it was a circus.
00:29:58.000 It was a young black girl come up and she says, you know, my mom is on crack.
00:30:05.000 I don't know my dad.
00:30:06.000 I said, you know what?
00:30:07.000 You can be whatever you want to be in this country.
00:30:09.000 God has given you the ability to change a generation.
00:30:13.000 And God bless you.
00:30:14.000 You work hard.
00:30:15.000 You pursue.
00:30:16.000 You will succeed.
00:30:17.000 And I believe in you.
00:30:18.000 You could be whatever you want to be.
00:30:20.000 And let this be an opportunity as a scholarship player to get a free education and change your generation.
00:30:26.000 Boo me. 0.68
00:30:27.000 They boot me.
00:30:28.000 Boo, boo, boo. 1.00
00:30:30.000 And I'm like, I'm telling another black person that you can be what you want to be. 0.97
00:30:35.000 Let this be a generational change for you.
00:30:37.000 God has put you in a position.
00:30:39.000 It doesn't matter what your mama did. 1.00
00:30:40.000 Now look what you, you have an opportunity, something she never had.
00:30:44.000 Take advantage of it.
00:30:46.000 They booed me.
00:30:46.000 They booed me on all other stuff.
00:30:48.000 Because I said white supremacy, I mean, white privilege is a myth.
00:30:51.000 It is.
00:30:52.000 It's like, do a white person or this white person have a privilege?
00:30:55.000 Yeah, but so do black people. 1.00
00:30:56.000 So do tall people.
00:30:57.000 So do handsome people.
00:30:58.000 So do beautiful women. 1.00
00:30:59.000 There's privileges to go around.
00:31:01.000 But you're going to tell me that every white person that opened their eyes, you know, after birth and they opened, the baby opened his eyes that somehow he has a privilege. 0.52
00:31:07.000 Every university I go to, Turning Point Universities, everyone I go to, I say, how many people had to pay for your school?
00:31:12.000 90% of the people say, I had to pay for my school.
00:31:15.000 And you say, how many people are working?
00:31:17.000 It's majority of the people are working to pay for school.
00:31:20.000 This myth of white people floating around with all this money and they just show a card at tuition when it's time to pay tuition and they get it free or they go to a job and they go, hey, look, I got this white privilege card.
00:31:30.000 Or they commit a crime and they just have to submit the white privilege card, right?
00:31:33.000 Oh, police officers.
00:31:34.000 Here you go.
00:31:34.000 Yeah.
00:31:35.000 I don't get as much time as the black man. 0.99
00:31:38.000 McCloskey or Sandman or Kavanaugh or Rittenhouse, right? 0.87
00:31:40.000 Where's their white privilege card?
00:31:42.000 Exactly.
00:31:42.000 They drugged him.
00:31:43.000 The president of the United States of America, he said that Kyle Rittinghouse was a white supremacist.
00:31:49.000 Now, think about this for a minute. 1.00
00:31:51.000 When a black man does a crime, if a president came out and said, you a hoodlum, you a thug. 1.00
00:31:56.000 Oh, let's talk about that. 1.00
00:31:57.000 People will be blown.
00:31:58.000 It'll blow their minds.
00:32:00.000 Well, and Trump inferred that during some of the riots, and they lost their life.
00:32:03.000 Right? 0.64
00:32:04.000 Black football players, SOBs. 1.00
00:32:06.000 I mean, these people kneeling for the National SOBs.
00:32:08.000 They perceive that as racist, even though there's also white football players.
00:32:13.000 I guess people don't realize there's white players too.
00:32:15.000 And when he says that he's a racist and he's projecting all this stuff, but they can criticize white people.
00:32:20.000 I mean, wrongly, this is a kid.
00:32:22.000 LeBron James was criticizing a 17-year-old boy.
00:32:25.000 What do you make of that? 0.75
00:32:26.000 I thought it was disgusting, man. 0.51
00:32:27.000 But he's a, you know, you see him flop every day on the basketball court crying.
00:32:30.000 He's no Michael Jordan. 1.00
00:32:31.000 He's an idiot. 1.00
00:32:32.000 He's no Michael Jordan. 1.00
00:32:33.000 And that's the best insult you can ever give him.
00:32:35.000 Because he knows he's not a man.
00:32:36.000 I hope you stick to him.
00:32:37.000 No, I guess it's true.
00:32:38.000 I say it every time.
00:32:39.000 The best insult you can give to LeBron James, you are no Michael Jordan.
00:32:42.000 He will never be Michael Jordan.
00:32:43.000 Why?
00:32:44.000 Did Michael Jordan do the social justice stuff?
00:32:46.000 No, LeBron James.
00:32:47.000 He said Republicans buy sneakers too.
00:32:48.000 Because he's smart.
00:32:49.000 He was given an opportunity to do that.
00:32:51.000 But Michael Jordan lost his father to a very unusual murder in the 90s.
00:32:56.000 And Jordan was, he was always a great role model.
00:33:00.000 He was always careful about what he said, careful about what causes he got behind.
00:33:04.000 He was a winner, man.
00:33:06.000 He lost zero NBA finals and won six of them.
00:33:08.000 Because he's a leader.
00:33:09.000 That's right.
00:33:10.000 He doesn't let the lies and all of the noise affect how he thinks he had a mom and he had a dad.
00:33:17.000 Before his dad passed away, and they were close.
00:33:19.000 It was a nuclear family.
00:33:20.000 Right.
00:33:20.000 His dad was at all his games.
00:33:22.000 Until he got murdered.
00:33:22.000 That's right.
00:33:23.000 Yeah.
00:33:23.000 Until he got murdered.
00:33:25.000 That's why, where's LeBron James' dad at?
00:33:27.000 I don't know.
00:33:28.000 We don't know.
00:33:28.000 It's a good question.
00:33:29.000 He got a dad because somebody was crazy. 0.61
00:33:31.000 That's an interesting question.
00:33:32.000 Who is LeBron's dad?
00:33:33.000 I don't know if LeBron, I don't know if his LeBron mama knows his dad is.
00:33:36.000 We know his mom.
00:33:37.000 Right.
00:33:38.000 But we don't know if she knows who his dad is.
00:33:39.000 I don't know.
00:33:42.000 That's just a problem in and of itself.
00:33:43.000 It is.
00:33:44.000 It is a problem because Michael Jordan is the way he is because his father was there for him.
00:33:48.000 And pushed him.
00:33:49.000 And Michael would even say, in his big family, he grew up in North Carolina, his dad would push him.
00:33:49.000 Right.
00:33:55.000 And it made him who he was and is.
00:33:57.000 A multi-billionaire.
00:33:58.000 Literally.
00:33:59.000 He's a multi-billionaire.
00:34:00.000 And one of the great, probably the greatest basketball, the greatest basketball player ever, one of the greatest athletes ever.
00:34:00.000 Right.
00:34:04.000 And let me make sure we're clear about this because people may say, oh, you see my mama.
00:34:08.000 Some moms are put in a position and they have to do the best they can. 1.00
00:34:11.000 Yeah, and that's not an attack on them.
00:34:12.000 It's not an attack on them.
00:34:13.000 And some of them are incredible at the situation they've been put in.
00:34:18.000 But make no mistake, God made male and female.
00:34:23.000 God made two male and female to have a baby together so you can raise the baby together. 1.00
00:34:28.000 If God didn't want that, then women could just get pregnant on their own and they could have children. 1.00
00:34:32.000 But God made a male and a female have to come together, a male and female have to come together to raise a child because there are certain things subconsciously, naturally, that a father can provide for the children that mom can't do.
00:34:43.000 Vice versa.
00:34:44.000 There's some stuff that mama can do that daddy can't do. 0.96
00:34:46.000 That's right.
00:34:46.000 But for a young man, it is, and I wrote this in my book too, even though it's a book about policing.
00:34:51.000 I wrote this.
00:34:52.000 And subconsciously, when a man has love from his father, subconsciously, he's more bold, he's more courageous.
00:35:01.000 The guidance and the critique from your dad is different than your mama.
00:35:05.000 And people don't understand that until you get soft, weak, feckless leaders like LeBron James versus Michael Jordan.
00:35:13.000 It's a difference.
00:35:14.000 And the difference ain't because basketball skills, because I would argue that LeBron James is very skillful.
00:35:19.000 I mean, he's bigger.
00:35:20.000 He's probably more, I don't know if he's more athletic, but he's bigger.
00:35:23.000 He's definitely stronger.
00:35:24.000 He definitely, he came out of high school.
00:35:27.000 I mean, the kid was killing in high school.
00:35:28.000 He could have played in the NFL.
00:35:29.000 So talent-wise, I mean, LeBron James is very competitive with Michael Jordan on a talent level.
00:35:34.000 But right here, because he was raised with doubt masculinity in his house, and now he's a follower.
00:35:40.000 And I could say more stuff about him, but I don't want to beat him up too bad.
00:35:44.000 I've been telling you guys about Relief Factor for quite some time.
00:35:47.000 And truth is, I know millions of people are, in fact, 100 million people are in some kind of pain.
00:35:51.000 Look, producer Andrew, he couldn't walk.
00:35:53.000 He was a hobbled individual. 0.96
00:35:55.000 He was bedridden in his chair, complaining all the time.
00:35:59.000 And then all of a sudden, we got this call from Relief Factor.
00:36:02.000 They said, hey, we want to partner with your show.
00:36:04.000 We're going to send you some Relief Factor.
00:36:05.000 Producer Andrew got it.
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00:36:10.000 Next thing you know, he's doing the Fallsberry flop like you wouldn't believe.
00:36:13.000 In fact, he might be training for an Ironman.
00:36:17.000 It's pretty incredible.
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00:36:49.000 So the last thing I want to talk about, Brandon, and I want to just reiterate your book, Beaten Black and Blue, is where I think Republicans missed a huge opportunity with the black community.
00:36:57.000 And I agree, I'm getting a little frustrated.
00:36:59.000 And it's not my place to say this, but how despite great communicators like you and Candace, just that the black community is still buying a lot of these lies. 0.85
00:37:10.000 It's frustrating me.
00:37:11.000 I'll be very honest.
00:37:11.000 You know what I mean?
00:37:13.000 And I see the venom you get from other blacks and Candace gets. 0.96
00:37:17.000 And it bothers me. 0.95
00:37:18.000 You know what I mean?
00:37:18.000 It's just, it's just not warranted.
00:37:20.000 But what I want to ask you is an opportunity I think Republicans miss, which is on the vaccine, which is like for what you had this huge, amazing opening where most blacks that not, they still don't trust the vaccine.
00:37:29.000 Rightfully so.
00:37:30.000 Do you think Republicans messed this up?
00:37:33.000 Yeah, I think so.
00:37:35.000 I think so, because this could have been a point in which both sides could unite, right?
00:37:42.000 Because at the end of the day, we all want the same thing.
00:37:46.000 Some people just believe we can get to it at a different rate or some people have been distracted to believe that there's no way of getting to it.
00:37:52.000 We all want the same thing.
00:37:53.000 We all want equality.
00:37:54.000 We all want freedom.
00:37:56.000 And when we feel like the government has infringed on us, which white people have experienced that too.
00:38:00.000 I mean, make no mistake.
00:38:01.000 Black people have experienced this.
00:38:02.000 Yeah, but there were medical experiments of black people 50, 60, 70 years ago, right? 0.99
00:38:07.000 Tuskegee experiment was one of them.
00:38:07.000 Tuskegee.
00:38:09.000 And I would argue, here's another one that's coming out that's probably going to hit the news is the vaccine.
00:38:16.000 I think it's the M RNA.
00:38:18.000 M-RNA.
00:38:19.000 No, it's maybe another one.
00:38:20.000 It's one of the start with an M, but it's a vaccine that they give children.
00:38:23.000 And it disproportionately affects young black children, creating autism.
00:38:27.000 And there's a whistleblower that was a part of the vaccine.
00:38:31.000 I don't know what company he worked for, but he's going to come out and make the statement that they knew that black children who've gotten vaccinated with this particular vaccine that's mandated, that they were dying and they were getting autism and they were having disabilities, becoming zombies.
00:38:46.000 They knew it. 0.92
00:38:47.000 So that's one, that's another thing that I hope black people realize that the government is experimenting on young black boys, or at least they don't care. 1.00
00:38:54.000 But there's an opportunity for Americans to say, we are in a joint effort on limited government. 0.73
00:39:01.000 You're not going to disrupt our freedoms, black or white.
00:39:04.000 And we should come together and rally.
00:39:06.000 Yeah, I just, I saw an opportunity, Brandon, where conservatives, Republicans could have come in and said, hey, like, you're not going to ask blacks for their vaccine passports in New York of any color.
00:39:15.000 But I just didn't see that.
00:39:16.000 Especially black people.
00:39:17.000 But I think it could have, we could have had some inroads in the black community.
00:39:21.000 Maybe I'm wrong.
00:39:22.000 I just.
00:39:23.000 No, I agree with you, but you got to understand.
00:39:25.000 I think that Republicans in many ways are feckless.
00:39:28.000 Oh, of course they are. 0.73
00:39:28.000 There's a few. 0.73
00:39:29.000 Oh, no, I agree.
00:39:30.000 I'm just saying that I was disappointed to see, like, you like for the first time in my life, you have an issue that the black people are concerned about, and we decide not to even address it.
00:39:41.000 Right.
00:39:42.000 You know, and it makes you wonder.
00:39:43.000 It makes you wonder.
00:39:44.000 And I hope that I don't.
00:39:45.000 But they're concerned for good reasons, is what I'm saying, though.
00:39:47.000 Right.
00:39:48.000 But it makes you wonder.
00:39:49.000 Do some of these Republicans care?
00:39:52.000 I don't think they do, or they're too cynical.
00:39:54.000 But they don't need, you know, do they care?
00:39:56.000 Are they reasonable for not caring or are they irreasonable?
00:39:59.000 I think some of them.
00:40:00.000 They don't need to vote.
00:40:01.000 I think some of them, and here's where I've come down.
00:40:04.000 I think some of them are kind of going in the direction that if you continued on the path you're on, in the sense of just being like, man, why am I getting booed when I'm talking about, you know, some Republicans are like, you know what?
00:40:16.000 Screw it.
00:40:17.000 I don't care.
00:40:18.000 Figure it out yourself.
00:40:19.000 I'm going to go win the suburbs.
00:40:20.000 Right.
00:40:21.000 And I'm not there.
00:40:21.000 Do you know?
00:40:22.000 I don't think that's ever the right thing.
00:40:23.000 I think that blacks deep down are far more conservative than they realize, especially on marriage and life.
00:40:29.000 And all that, you know, church, community.
00:40:31.000 And I just think they've been fed such a propaganda campaign.
00:40:34.000 But I think some Republicans are like, why would I try to win over black voters?
00:40:37.000 True.
00:40:38.000 And I think.
00:40:39.000 I'm saying I think that there's a multifat is multifaceted, right?
00:40:39.000 I'm not saying they're right.
00:40:43.000 So if you look at it, you say, man, I need to win.
00:40:46.000 Am I going to spend in Atlanta where Brandon Tatum was speaking at the end?
00:40:49.000 And go get booed. 1.00
00:40:50.000 We're not going to get pissed. 0.56
00:40:51.000 And then a headline of the Atlanta Journal Constitution: Republicans booed off stage by black audience.
00:40:56.000 No.
00:40:56.000 Am I going to do that?
00:40:57.000 Because even if I do get 20% more that vote for me, I'm still not going to use that.
00:41:01.000 Their voting is not going to make me win.
00:41:03.000 I mean, think about the, this is where black people, I think, black Americans have gotten themselves in a bind because they've sold out to the Democrat Party so hard that the Democrat Party don't need them.
00:41:03.000 Yep.
00:41:14.000 They're sold.
00:41:15.000 That's like being in a relationship with a woman. 0.62
00:41:17.000 And this is not what Christians do, but being in a relationship with a woman that you already got her, you're chasing the other one over here. 0.97
00:41:23.000 You don't care about pleasing her.
00:41:24.000 She's already there.
00:41:25.000 You know she ain't going to leave.
00:41:26.000 So you're going to go mess with this woman. 1.00
00:41:27.000 And you're going to try to court her in because you know you got her. 0.98
00:41:30.000 Just like the Democrats do with black people. 0.99
00:41:32.000 They got you.
00:41:34.000 They own a campaign thing speaking Spanish.
00:41:37.000 They ain't worried about none of y'all.
00:41:38.000 And that's where I see this opportunity for blacks to say, we don't want this anymore. 0.98
00:41:43.000 But, brother, I don't know if it's getting through because it's so ingrained for generations.
00:41:51.000 I know.
00:41:51.000 There was a dude on a CRT.
00:41:53.000 He was in Fort Worth, Texas, where I went to school.
00:41:55.000 Was that unbelievable?
00:41:56.000 Yeah, the guy, I mean, he was threatening them, to be honest.
00:41:59.000 He said, I have an army of people.
00:42:00.000 Army of people armed when he walked out.
00:42:01.000 He said they locked and loaded. 0.78
00:42:03.000 Could you imagine if a white person to all black people? 0.89
00:42:07.000 I got an army.
00:42:08.000 They'll say that it was the Klan and that the Klan was out.
00:42:10.000 People say we saw the Klan members.
00:42:12.000 They would arrest him.
00:42:13.000 He would go to jail and he would be charged with a hate crime.
00:42:15.000 That's right.
00:42:15.000 That's exactly right.
00:42:16.000 You are right.
00:42:16.000 That's well said.
00:42:17.000 But there's black privilege in this country. 0.50
00:42:19.000 Unfortunately, you know what's so funny is the guy on the morning, the breakfast club.
00:42:26.000 Oh, my goodness, what's it?
00:42:27.000 Charlemagne.
00:42:27.000 He wrote a book called Black Privilege.
00:42:29.000 You know that?
00:42:30.000 Did he?
00:42:30.000 I didn't even know it.
00:42:31.000 Saying that blacks have privilege in America and we have to realize. 0.98
00:42:33.000 Isn't that so funny?
00:42:34.000 I need to find.
00:42:34.000 That's a talking point for me.
00:42:36.000 It's funny that he says that because he would never talk like that.
00:42:38.000 That's right.
00:42:38.000 I got to say that he literally wrote a whole book called Black Privilege: Why It's Best to Be Black in America.
00:42:44.000 Yeah, that's interesting.
00:42:45.000 He's changed a little bit, hasn't he?
00:42:46.000 Hey, you know what?
00:42:47.000 I think that he, I think in his personal life, he ain't like he is on.
00:42:50.000 I don't know much about him.
00:42:52.000 He will get canceled.
00:42:52.000 He tolerates.
00:42:53.000 He will get canceled.
00:42:53.000 He tolerates too much of this stuff.
00:42:54.000 I'm actually not anti-Charlemagne.
00:42:56.000 I just think it's interesting.
00:42:57.000 I think that's really interesting.
00:42:59.000 So in closing, it's beaten black and blue.
00:43:01.000 But Brandon, I want to have you back.
00:43:03.000 I want to keep on wrestling about this.
00:43:04.000 And I'd love to get Candace's opinion.
00:43:06.000 Just like, what is the path forward for the black community?
00:43:09.000 What do we have to do better?
00:43:11.000 Because I could tell you were impacted by, you know, that.
00:43:13.000 Dude, it was a strike two for me.
00:43:16.000 It felt like strike two.
00:43:17.000 It's like one more time.
00:43:17.000 Ryder was number one.
00:43:18.000 Well, Ryder was number one.
00:43:20.000 I mean, I almost gave up on Ryder right there.
00:43:21.000 I was like, nah, but man, you know what?
00:43:23.000 God called me to be me.
00:43:24.000 Let me just say this.
00:43:25.000 This is what I think.
00:43:27.000 This is the way I operate in the best way I think we can function as citizens.
00:43:30.000 I just do me.
00:43:32.000 I'm just telling the truth.
00:43:34.000 And if black people want to get on board with that, then get on board.
00:43:37.000 I'm not going to change what I have to say. 0.82
00:43:38.000 I'm not going to change what God has put in my heart.
00:43:40.000 I'm not going to, I'm not going to kiss nobody, but.
00:43:42.000 And so, my thing in attracting the black community is that if you speak the truth, I believe that the people who want the truth will come, no matter if they're black, white, green, or orange.
00:43:52.000 And that keeps me from being racist.
00:43:54.000 No, I totally.
00:43:55.000 Because I don't care.
00:43:56.000 I don't pick one over the other.
00:43:58.000 No, I love white people and black people exactly the same.
00:44:01.000 I love Hispanic people exactly the same.
00:44:03.000 I love people that don't live in this country exactly the same.
00:44:06.000 But the thing is, I'm going to tell the truth no matter what environment I'm in.
00:44:10.000 When I was at the summit, I don't care if they boot me.
00:44:12.000 Some people were like, oh man, I'm sorry that that happened.
00:44:14.000 I don't care.
00:44:15.000 I'm me.
00:44:16.000 I'm going to do me.
00:44:17.000 And if y'all get mad, that's on you.
00:44:19.000 So, I mean, if we just focus on the truth, focus on facts, the truth will set us free.
00:44:24.000 The good people in any community are going to stand up and say, you know what, I can get with that.
00:44:28.000 I can get with that.
00:44:28.000 It's like Christ.
00:44:29.000 Amen.
00:44:29.000 Christ didn't pander to nobody.
00:44:31.000 Christ told the truth according to the word of God and according to the prophets.
00:44:36.000 And he stuck there.
00:44:37.000 And you and I said, you know what?
00:44:39.000 I'm going to answer that call.
00:44:40.000 What he said is right. 0.51
00:44:41.000 He didn't have to pander.
00:44:42.000 He didn't have to put on some clothes and look like me and paint his skin or not paint his skin.
00:44:47.000 He just told the truth.
00:44:48.000 And that truth would draw your heart.
00:44:50.000 And I think that's the most effective approach.
00:44:52.000 Beaten Black and Blue by Brandon Tatum.
00:44:54.000 Check it out, everybody.
00:44:55.000 Bye today, Brandon.
00:44:56.000 You're awesome.
00:44:56.000 You got to come on more often.
00:44:57.000 Anytime.
00:44:58.000 God bless you.
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