The Charlie Kirk Show - Alex Jones Fined 1 Billion Dollars?? With Jack Posobiec

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00:01:13.000 So I had a very busy day yesterday as we set up a table at University of Texas Austin for a couple hours.

00:01:18.000 Then I spoke for a couple hours in our wonderful Turning Point USA chapter was out there recruiting and educating and doing what we do best.

00:01:24.000 And it's not political at all.

00:01:26.000 It's all about talking about morals and values and philosophy and talking about what really matters and having conversations where obviously you're going to disagree, but maybe by using reason and dialogue, you can come to some sort of middle ground.

00:01:39.000 I was told that I was trending on Twitter during all of that, which was interestingly enough because of something I said on this program about empathy.

00:01:46.000 Don't have time to get into that, but on our Ask Me Anything episode tomorrow, I'm going to explain what I meant by that when I said empathy is a new age term that I really, I think, is rather useless.

00:01:55.000 Sympathy, I have a lot of use for that word, but empathy, I don't.

00:01:58.000 Not going to get into that right now.

00:01:59.000 We're going to explain that in our Ask Me Anything.

00:02:02.000 But the real reason why I was trending is because I tweeted about Alex Jones.

00:02:07.000 Now, some of you might have saw the news yesterday with Alex Jones.

00:02:10.000 Alex Jones received a ruling that he has to pay nearly $1 billion in damages.

00:02:20.000 Now, understand, I tweeted out about this yesterday, about the injustice of having to force somebody to pay a billion dollars for having a wrong opinion and wrong perspective about something.

00:02:36.000 And I got trending for that.

00:02:37.000 And I had a lot of people texting me and a lot of people messaging me saying, Charlie, lay off the Alex Jones topic.

00:02:42.000 Just stay away from this one.

00:02:44.000 And even today, you know, people are saying, Charlie, just don't waste your time.

00:02:47.000 Alex Jones is a nut.

00:02:48.000 Don't worry about it. 0.97

00:02:50.000 And maybe a couple years ago, I might have stayed away from it.

00:02:53.000 I might have listened to the regime and just said, oh, yeah, you know, Alex Jones is awful and terrible and all these sorts of things.

00:02:59.000 And let me just be very clear.

00:03:00.000 I disagree with Alex Jones on plenty of things.

00:03:03.000 I agree with Alex Jones on some things.

00:03:06.000 When Alex Jones talks about the great reset, I agree with almost everything he has to say.

00:03:09.000 There's plenty of things throughout the years that I think Alex Jones could have done differently.

00:03:13.000 Certainly what he did with the Sandy Hook thing was not right.

00:03:15.000 He admits it.

00:03:16.000 He said he made a mistake in the Sandy Hook situation.

00:03:19.000 He says what he said was wrong.

00:03:22.000 He now says that.

00:03:23.000 So I didn't like what he did there.

00:03:25.000 A lot of people didn't like that.

00:03:26.000 So does that mean that you could crush somebody and bankrupt them and demand a $1 billion judgment?

00:03:32.000 And so a lot of people say, just stay away from Alex Jones.

00:03:34.000 Stay away from that.

00:03:35.000 And I think back to a couple years ago, to a situation that I wish I would have spoken out about more.

00:03:40.000 I'll be very honest with you.

00:03:41.000 And I don't have a lot of regrets, but I have a regret about this.

00:03:44.000 When Alex Jones was simultaneously taken off of Apple Podcast, Twitter, Facebook, all the social media sites at once.

00:03:52.000 Maybe our team can look at the article.

00:03:54.000 It was a simultaneous collusion.

00:03:57.000 When Alex Jones was taken off every single platform, I remained silent.

00:04:01.000 I did.

00:04:03.000 I think this was back in 2018 or 2019 because I was very naive.

00:04:07.000 I was naive where they said, oh, you know, Alex Jones, he's a little off the reservation.

00:04:11.000 CNN led that assassination campaign.

00:04:15.000 And I was young and I thought, okay, you know, Alex Jones, you know, InfoWars, all that sort of stuff.

00:04:20.000 And, you know, I don't need to speak out because they're not going to come for me.

00:04:22.000 And what a mistake that was as I look back.

00:04:27.000 As I look back and I see that that was setting the precedent.

00:04:30.000 That was setting the groundwork, if you will, laying the foundation is a better way to say it to be able to have these social media companies work in tandem, work in harmony, to be able to kick people off of social media, to shut us up.

00:04:47.000 And the next thing you know, I'm getting suspended from Twitter.

00:04:50.000 And then a president of the United States gets banned from Twitter.

00:04:53.000 And it started with us being silent when Alex Jones was kicked off of social media.

00:04:58.000 When all these different companies came together and they banned him, when CNN led that campaign, again, we're going to get the kind of article when that all happened.

00:05:06.000 It happened all at once.

00:05:08.000 All these different companies that had nothing in common except the fact that they were told that Alex Jones is the worst thing ever.

00:05:14.000 And people were silent, myself included.

00:05:17.000 And I remember now, and I look back at that and I've learned from it.

00:05:20.000 I said, the next time a situation like this happens where they try to set a precedent against Alex Jones or somebody like Alex Jones, I am not going to be silent again.

00:05:28.000 And that is exactly what is happening here.

00:05:31.000 Because, you know, it's kind of in vogue now to kind of talk about social media tech censorship and the banning of people and all that sort of stuff.

00:05:37.000 And oh, yeah, it's kind of the new thing we could talk about.

00:05:40.000 But what if we would have united and said this is unacceptable early when they went after Alex Jones?

00:05:47.000 Would they have been as successful at doing that?

00:05:49.000 At once, Alex Jones was kicked off of every single social media site all at once.

00:05:55.000 And we were almost never given any sort of explanation for it.

00:05:58.000 Alex Jones stands to have to pay a billion dollars to Sandy Hook families.

00:06:01.000 Let me reiterate: for the degenerate Media Matters people out there that intentionally try to misrepresent what I have to say.

00:06:08.000 I don't like what Alex Jones said about Sandy Hook.

00:06:11.000 He doesn't like what he said about Sandy Hook.

00:06:14.000 That's not the point.

00:06:16.000 The point is: should a precedent be set that if you say something that is wrong or have an opinion that people do not like, should you be able to crush them financially?

00:06:26.000 Is that a precedent that we are willing to set?

00:06:30.000 Alex Jones acknowledged he was wrong repeatedly and is now ordered to pay $1 billion.

00:06:38.000 Meanwhile, the largest fine paid by a banking executive responsible for the 2008 financial crisis, $67 million.

00:06:47.000 Who hurt more people?

00:06:48.000 Thank you.

00:06:48.000 This is the article.

00:06:49.000 Producer Andrew found it.

00:06:51.000 Back in 2018, I was right on the date.

00:06:54.000 I remember where I was when this happened.

00:06:55.000 YouTube, Apple, Facebook all removed content from InfoWars and Alex Jones simultaneously on the same day.

00:07:03.000 Spotify, Facebook, Apple, YouTube.

00:07:06.000 It was all the same thing.

00:07:06.000 And remember, after January 6th, when all of a sudden Spotify and TikTok and Pinterest and all these other weird social media companies all came together and they banned Trump together at the same time, Alex Jones was patient zero for the censorship regime back in 2018.

00:07:25.000 And now Alex Jones is patient zero for lawfare strategies to be able to shut people up that they don't like.

00:07:34.000 Is Alex Jones outlandish?

00:07:36.000 Of course he is.

00:07:37.000 He's a quasi-entertainer.

00:07:38.000 That's one of the reasons why he's so popular.

00:07:40.000 But Alex Jones has been right about a lot of things.

00:07:44.000 And so people say, well, don't talk about it.

00:07:46.000 You know, stay away from it.

00:07:46.000 I learned my lesson.

00:07:47.000 I learned my lesson.

00:07:48.000 What happens when I stay quiet and I listen to these people?

00:07:50.000 I'm not going to put up with another bad precedent being set because I'm told that I should hate Alex Jones.

00:07:57.000 He's outlandish.

00:07:58.000 He's wild.

00:08:00.000 He's entertaining.

00:08:01.000 I don't agree with him on everything.

00:08:03.000 They're doing this to be able to show it's a spectacle.

00:08:08.000 And some people say, look, Charlie, this isn't about the regime doing a spectacle.

00:08:13.000 It's about the families of murdered kids.

00:08:16.000 Okay, I think it's not right what Alex Jones said and what he did.

00:08:19.000 He agrees with that.

00:08:20.000 Should you be able to shut somebody up because of it?

00:08:23.000 Rachel Maddow accused One America News Network of being funded by the Russian government and a judge tossed that away because under free speech provisions.

00:08:34.000 A billion dollars?

00:08:36.000 This also is an opportunity that I hope all of you take.

00:08:41.000 Watch carefully today.

00:08:43.000 The podcasts you listen to, the radio shows you consume, the TV shows you watch.

00:08:49.000 This is a scorecard moment.

00:08:52.000 If your favorite conservative commentator is silent on Alex Jones, that is very telling.

00:09:00.000 Because just the fact I'm doing this segment right now, we're going to get articles written up all over.

00:09:04.000 I don't care, and you shouldn't either.

00:09:06.000 I care too much for you, the audience.

00:09:08.000 I care too much for what we're fighting for to just do what I'm told by some sort of regime puppeteer.

00:09:14.000 It's too important.

00:09:16.000 It's a scorecard moment.

00:09:18.000 I hope you guys will look carefully at who steps up to bat to defend what is right.

00:09:25.000 Look, rights, immigration, foreign policy, marriage, sex.

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00:09:32.000 And we talk about them.

00:09:33.000 And they're the heart of so many different campaigns this election season.

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00:11:29.000 Do you think that it's right to stand up for Alex Jones despite whether you think he said something right or not?

00:11:36.000 I want your emails, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:11:39.000 Most of you agree, because if you don't stand up for the principle of speech when it's hard, when are you going to stand up for it?

00:11:45.000 Why is it that very few conservatives, God bless Tucker Carlson, God bless Steve Bannon, that even say there's something insane about this for wrongthink?

00:11:55.000 You have a bad opinion, you say something wrong.

00:11:57.000 Again, I don't like what he did.

00:11:59.000 I think what he did could be interpreted as cruel.

00:12:01.000 But guess what?

00:12:02.000 You're allowed to be cruel when you have freedom of speech.

00:12:06.000 You're allowed to do things that you might not like.

00:12:10.000 And he even has apologized for it.

00:12:13.000 He has admitted it.

00:12:16.000 And they're saying, well, Charlie, he was intentionally lying for profit.

00:12:19.000 He wasn't.

00:12:20.000 He was wrong.

00:12:21.000 But he probably believed what he said.

00:12:23.000 And so here's a very basic question I tweeted out.

00:12:26.000 If Alex Jones owns a billion dollars for saying mean things on a show, how much should the Stalinist propagandists at CNN, MSNBC, The Washington Post, and the New York Times pay to all Americans they pressured to inject their kids, saying it would prevent transmission to grandma?

00:12:46.000 That's the precedent being said.

00:12:47.000 Of course, not a judge would throw that out in an instant.

00:12:49.000 Here's the thing: one of the reasons they like going after Alex Jones is because of his style.

00:12:57.000 He can come across as unreasonable to some people.

00:13:01.000 And as we've talked about in the practice of persuasion, the more reasonable person in a discussion wins the argument in the view of the audience.

00:13:14.000 Now, Alex at times can come across as someone who gets very excited.

00:13:22.000 Okay, that's his style, and it's worked for him, by the way.

00:13:26.000 But Jones is a means to the end, a means to an end, I should say.

00:13:32.000 He's much easier to take down.

00:13:35.000 But the tactics that are now being used on Jones as patient zero, as step one, can be used on more and more targets.

00:13:46.000 They used Alex Jones for social media suppression, patient zero, back in 18.

00:13:53.000 And as I mentioned previously, I remained silent to my regret.

00:13:58.000 I had a platform and I didn't say a thing.

00:14:02.000 I wish I would have.

00:14:04.000 And you grow up and you learn, and now I'm back in this moment.

00:14:07.000 And I say, boy, they're doing the exact same thing. 0.99

00:14:09.000 And people say, oh, yeah, just shut up. 0.98

00:14:11.000 It's like, you know what? 0.60

00:14:12.000 At least if they ever come after us with this sort of barrage and this sort of ridiculous lawfare strategy, I will be able to look you, the audience, in the eye and say, I stood up for the tough case when it actually mattered.

00:14:26.000 And if the conservative media can't do that, then what on earth is the conservative movement or media good for?

00:14:32.000 It's not about whether you like Alex Jones.

00:14:35.000 It is completely irrelevant.

00:14:37.000 What is relevant is, do you think that the law-industrial complex in collusion with the media can work in harmony to completely obliterate somebody financially for saying something wrong and then therefore apologizing afterwards?

00:14:54.000 The New York Times had a quote that is very, very telling.

00:15:00.000 Quote, lawyers say the three trials hold lessons for other cases against conspiracy-minded defendants, from the January 6th insurrectionists to Trump allies sued for falsely claiming that voting machines manufacturers helped steal the 2020 election.

00:15:17.000 Oh, so they're going to go for Mike Lindell next.

00:15:20.000 Or are they going to go for Steve Bannon?

00:15:21.000 Are they going to go for this program?

00:15:23.000 Are they going to go for Tucker Carlson?

00:15:24.000 The New York Times says this now holds lessons.

00:15:27.000 They are running.

00:15:28.000 This is practice for them.

00:15:30.000 This is a spring football game.

00:15:32.000 This is spring training.

00:15:34.000 This is A baseball for them before they get to the majors.

00:15:38.000 Alex Jones is not the destination.

00:15:41.000 Alex Jones is just getting them refined to be able to do what they actually want to do.

00:15:47.000 It says it in the New York Times article.

00:15:49.000 Lawyers for the Sandy Hook families say a verdict will send a signal to other conspiracy purveyors about the cost of online lies and set in emotion a chain of events that could shut info wars down.

00:16:05.000 So basically, the New York Times is saying this is a lot bigger than just Alex Jones.

00:16:09.000 And you might be out there and say, I hate Alex Jones and he's a whackadoodle and all this sort of stuff.

00:16:14.000 Look at the bigger picture.

00:16:15.000 Have you learned nothing about how these people operate?

00:16:19.000 Conspiracy purveyor.

00:16:20.000 Who exactly is that?

00:16:21.000 You know who the conspiracy purveyors are? 0.92

00:16:23.000 Every single one of those mockingbird maniacs on television that was telling us Donald Trump is a Russian agent. 0.54

00:16:28.000 You're the conspiracy theorist, but they'll never be held accountable.

00:16:31.000 No, what they mean by conspiracy theorist is someone who asks questions against the core tenants as Friedrich Nietzsche, the pieties that you can't ask, like election integrity or the alphabet mafia.

00:16:45.000 I want your thoughts.

00:16:46.000 Is it worth standing up for Alex Jones when it's tough?

00:16:48.000 Email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:16:52.000 Let me ask you this.

00:16:53.000 Do you know the real story of George Floyd?

00:16:56.000 Look, we know about BLM, the organization, not the movement, used Floyd's name to raise $90 million.

00:17:02.000 But where did all the money go?

00:17:04.000 Well, we finally have answers because Candace Owens interviewed the people who were closest to George Floyd and uncovered the parts the media will never tell you.

00:17:11.000 I am so excited to see this.

00:17:14.000 The great Candace Owens, who, by the way, is doing some stops with us at Turning Point USA.

00:17:18.000 We're honored to have that.

00:17:19.000 She has the new documentary, The Greatest Lie Ever Sold, and it will bring all the answers to light.

00:17:24.000 Candace, she went there.

00:17:26.000 She went to Minneapolis to the scene of the violent, racially divided aftermath that tore our beautiful country apart.

00:17:32.000 And she followed the money to uncover BLM's executives living in million-dollar mansions.

00:17:37.000 Well, that's only the beginning of where the money has gone.

00:17:40.000 You'll be disturbed by how the $90 million worth of well-meaning donor funds have been used.

00:17:44.000 If you want to hear the reality and not the narrative, you need to see this movie.

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00:17:53.000 It's well worth it.

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00:17:57.000 Support Candace Owens and see her new movie.

00:17:59.000 I can't wait to watch it.

00:18:00.000 We have plans.

00:18:01.000 As soon as it comes out, boom, we're going to watch it.

00:18:03.000 Dailywire.com/slash Charlie.

00:18:05.000 Check it out.

00:18:08.000 We have most agreement.

00:18:11.000 Some people are emailing us disagreeing.

00:18:13.000 They say, oh, no, you know what?

00:18:15.000 There needs to be a price for lies and defamation.

00:18:18.000 Well, that's an interesting thing.

00:18:19.000 Did Alex say something he knew was false?

00:18:22.000 I don't know.

00:18:24.000 I don't think that's exactly what happened here.

00:18:27.000 He apologized and said he was wrong.

00:18:29.000 And then a billion dollars?

00:18:31.000 Really?

00:18:32.000 To bankrupt him and silence him and stifle him.

00:18:34.000 And then the New York Times tells us this is now a roadmap.

00:18:37.000 A blueprint has now been developed for other voices we don't like.

00:18:43.000 We're going to now be able to shut up all sorts of different people.

00:18:47.000 I'm just going to close with this.

00:18:48.000 Then we have Jack Pesobic coming on about the OPEC stuff.

00:18:51.000 Very important.

00:18:53.000 Which is look carefully in the next 24 hours to all your podcasts you watch, all the shows that you watch, all the radio programs you listen to.

00:19:03.000 And if they are silent on the issue of Alex Jones, I hope you ask them why.

00:19:08.000 Jack Pesobic is with us.

00:19:10.000 He is the host of Human Events Daily, brought to you by Turning Point USA, also the host of an amazing docuseries that is being aired on Real America's Voice every Sunday about the great reset.

00:19:23.000 Jack, is that right?

00:19:24.000 Jack, welcome to the program.

00:19:24.000 Every Sunday evening?

00:19:25.000 You are 100% right.

00:19:27.000 It is every Sunday weekend.

00:19:29.000 So every Sunday evening, Real America's Voice has opened it up.

00:19:33.000 So we're actually doing two specials every Sunday night now on Real America's Voice.

00:19:37.000 The first special is a regular weekly special.

00:19:40.000 So, this week we've got Paul Manafort for the full hour.

00:19:43.000 We're going to get his take on elections.

00:19:45.000 We're going to get his take on everything that happened with him in Russia Gate, his take on Ukraine.

00:19:48.000 And then, following that, the docu series, each episode in the series comes out.

00:19:52.000 It's going to be 6 p.m. and then 7 p.m., the great global reset.

00:19:57.000 So, people remember when I went over to Davos and Turning Point USA sent me over.

00:20:01.000 Actually, I remember Charlie, you called me up and said, Jack, I need you to go to Davos.

00:20:04.000 And I said, Charlie, it's dismay.

00:20:05.000 What's going on in Davos?

00:20:06.000 You said, Jack, you're going over.

00:20:08.000 You're going to expose the globalists.

00:20:09.000 It's going to be great.

00:20:10.000 And we had like no plan.

00:20:12.000 I remember off of that first call, but you know, when Charlie calls it, Jack, you're going to Davos and say, All right, we're going to Davos.

00:20:17.000 So we figured it out.

00:20:18.000 And then Klaus Schwab got very upset that we were over there.

00:20:21.000 He sent his thugs out after me.

00:20:22.000 And you can't say World Economic Forum police, by the way.

00:20:25.000 That's what their badges say.

00:20:27.000 We have to say the police assigned to the World Economic Forum.

00:20:30.000 So you get Eros Reuters gets very, very upset about this.

00:20:32.000 And so they don't have the freedom of speech over there in Switzerland, by the way, which is something that we get into in the documentary that I think ties back to Charlie, what you were just talking about about Alex Jones.

00:20:42.000 Is you don't have to say that you defend every single thing that Alex or you agree with every single thing that Alex Jones ever said to say that you support freedom of speech and that you're very concerned with this obvious attack by the regime on the principle of freedom of speech in our country.

00:20:58.000 And that's perfectly consistent.

00:21:01.000 Go look at the Guardian today.

00:21:03.000 They've got a new piece up that says, well, and it's Simon Jenkins and he's one of the far left guys over there.

00:21:08.000 Only proper online regulation can stop poisonous conspiracists like Alex Jones.

00:21:14.000 And who gets to define that?

00:21:15.000 Well, of course, Simon Jenkins and Guardian.

00:21:16.000 They do.

00:21:17.000 So the United States is actually very unique in terms of world history by having something like the First Amendment.

00:21:25.000 And when we have situations like this, you will find people who will come from traditions like Simon Jenkins or the police over in Switzerland that don't have freedom of speech, don't have freedom of the press.

00:21:34.000 And they're going to use that to erode our freedoms again and again and again here back home.

00:21:40.000 And that's what this is about.

00:21:41.000 That's 100% what this is about.

00:21:43.000 Because I remember back in 2019, when Rachel Maddow stated on her program that One America News, OAN, took money from Russia.

00:21:53.000 She said that.

00:21:54.000 Then OAN sued her duly.

00:21:56.000 They went to the courts.

00:21:57.000 What did the courts find?

00:21:58.000 The court said, this is obviously an opinion program, and her statements are to be taken as opinion. 0.83

00:22:06.000 And they were thrown out because it was an obvious exaggeration. 1.00

00:22:09.000 That's what happens when it's Rachel Maddow.

00:22:11.000 When it's Alex Jones, it's a billion dollars.

00:22:14.000 So we used to have freedom of speech like that for everybody.

00:22:17.000 Now we only have it for one side.

00:22:19.000 But, Charlie, as we always say, it's not hypocrisy.

00:22:22.000 It's hierarchy.

00:22:24.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:22:25.000 And it's going to be a test to the conservative media landscape of who speaks out, who has the courage to do that, because they're using this as a test case and a blueprint to be able to do this to other people.

00:22:37.000 They say that in the New York Times article.

00:22:39.000 So shifting gears here, Jack, I want to talk about OPEC and Quid Pro Joe.

00:22:44.000 What is the story here?

00:22:45.000 It's a little confusing to most people.

00:22:47.000 Walk us through it with your foreign policy expertise.

00:22:50.000 So the timeline on this is important, right?

00:22:53.000 So over the summer, when gas prices were getting really bad, Joe Biden and his crack team at the White House decided to go over to something called the Strategic Oil Reserve.

00:23:02.000 They're these giant caverns down in the Louisiana bio.

00:23:05.000 They're underneath the Louisiana bayou, these actually salt caverns, limestone.

00:23:10.000 One of them used to be owned by Mortensalt, really interesting story.

00:23:12.000 And we, in the 1970s, our country started filling these up as a reserve in case OPEC ever conducted another embargo against the United States or ever looked to cut production.

00:23:23.000 Pay attention to that because that's going to come up later.

00:23:26.000 So Biden decided that he didn't like where his approval numbers were.

00:23:30.000 So what did he do?

00:23:31.000 He started releasing oil from the strategic oil reserve into the markets, and prices dipped for a little bit, but now they're back on the upswing again.

00:23:41.000 So, last week, Biden calls for OPEC to increase their production.

00:23:47.000 And of course, we remember OHIB, you know, he goes over there, he has the fist bump with MBS, who's the crown prince that's basically in charge of how to right now.

00:23:52.000 Saudi Arabia's government is basically run by like Game of Thrones.

00:23:55.000 It's Game of Thrones rules over there.

00:23:57.000 So, you know, the king is pretty much down, but he's not out yet completely.

00:24:01.000 But MBS is, you know, the prince is really running the government.

00:24:04.000 Yeah, the prince is running.

00:24:05.000 So, just if you've seen Game of Thrones, that's basically how they run Saudi Arabia.

00:24:08.000 And so, OPEC Plus last week comes out and says, you know what?

00:24:14.000 We're actually not going to increase production.

00:24:16.000 We're going to decrease production.

00:24:18.000 Joe, we're very sorry about that.

00:24:20.000 We don't like the things that you've been doing.

00:24:22.000 We've decided that we're going to push off.

00:24:23.000 And Charlie, you had Steve Bannon on here yesterday for that incredible discussion about the collapse of the Anglo-American financial system worldwide.

00:24:31.000 This is part and parcel of that because, of course, everyone knows that system, and maybe we should do some more episodes explaining this for people.

00:24:38.000 It's backed by the petrodollar.

00:24:40.000 It's backed by the fact that all oil transactions, petroleum, LNG, must be conducted around the world in U.S. currency, even if the United States is not involved in the transaction.

00:24:49.000 Obviously, this creates an artificial demand for U.S. dollars.

00:24:53.000 So, when the Saudis tell Joe to pound sand over this, Biden comes back and the Wall Street Journal reports this last week.

00:25:00.000 They say, Okay, if you're going to do it, can you at least delay it one month?

00:25:05.000 Can you delay it one month?

00:25:07.000 Well, Charlie, we've all got calendars.

00:25:08.000 I wonder why it's one month from now, right?

00:25:11.000 You know, we're one, we're actually less, only about you know, two, two and a half weeks of any account from the election.

00:25:18.000 So, obviously, he's saying you need to delay this until after the election.

00:25:23.000 Then Biden goes on Jake Tapper's program.

00:25:27.000 The thing drops over the weekend to sit down with Jake Tapper.

00:25:30.000 He says to Tapper's face that we've asked them to postpone this.

00:25:34.000 He then says there will be consequences if they do not agree to our demands.

00:25:41.000 Tapper says, What consequences?

00:25:43.000 And he says, Oh, Jake, consequences.

00:25:45.000 We then hear Roquahana on Monday.

00:25:47.000 We hear Blumenthal come out as well and say, We will drop the military sales to Saudi Arabia.

00:25:55.000 This is congressionally appointed military sales.

00:25:56.000 I'm going to put aside the issue of whether we should be doing that right now.

00:26:00.000 But just to point out, this was approved by Congress.

00:26:02.000 This is something we've been doing for a very long time.

00:26:04.000 And they asked Joe Biden about this while he's on the lawn, while he's walking into the White House.

00:26:10.000 And he says, Yes, we are going to look at that when Congress comes back after the elections.

00:26:14.000 And so I'm just sitting there watching all of this and saying, Well, wait a minute, isn't this the exact same thing that President Trump was impeached for?

00:26:25.000 The only third impeachment that we've ever had in the United States of America, U.S. history, was over coercing.

00:26:32.000 Remember their allegation, not what the facts were, but their allegation they had the whistleblower.

00:26:36.000 His name was Eric Charamela, by the way, the whistleblower.

00:26:38.000 Then they had Vinman, and Vinman had a feeling, he had a strong feeling.

00:26:42.000 Remember, he had a rustling in his Jimmies that Trump was trying to coerce and Zelensky, right? 0.69

00:26:46.000 Of course, it was Zelensky.

00:26:47.000 It's just amazing how the same names keep coming back up again and again.

00:26:51.000 So Zelensky and Trump are having this phone call.

00:26:53.000 Trump says, I need you to look into this guy, Joe Biden.

00:26:56.000 He's up to no good in Burisma.

00:26:58.000 I want to see if there's anything you can find out about that.

00:27:00.000 You're there.

00:27:00.000 Let's talk to the prosecutor general.

00:27:02.000 Earlier, we know there was another situation where a prosecutor general had been fired in Ukraine that may or may not have actually been looking in to Hunter Biden and this burisma company.

00:27:12.000 So they impeached Trump over that and they claimed it was over withholding military aid to Ukraine.

00:27:18.000 We're now hearing Joe Biden publicly state that he is planning to withhold military aid from Saudi Arabia, again, congressionally approved, if they do not essentially lower the price of oil, which would lower the price of gas going into the election.

00:27:35.000 Now, all of this is flying around on social media, and it's like I'm the only person in America that actually connects the dots on it.

00:27:41.000 And then suddenly the Saudis come out last night with this giant statement. 0.95

00:27:45.000 It looks like they wrote it on a scroll.

00:27:46.000 If you see this thing, the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, you don't usually see them put out statements like this, where they completely confirm everything that went on and they publicly reject the offer.

00:27:58.000 They say, we will not delay this one month.

00:28:01.000 The White House, Préjean Pierre, has been trying to walk it back.

00:28:04.000 But now the end was incredible.

00:28:06.000 I'm waiting for the fact check.

00:28:07.000 I'm waiting for Reuters to come out and say, oh, Poseobic is, you know, reading between the lines too much again. 0.91

00:28:11.000 The AP and the Wall Street Journal, as of this morning, four hours ago, have both come out and completely corroborated everything I reported.

00:28:21.000 I want to play Cut 80 really quick for some context.

00:28:23.000 Play Cut 80.

00:28:25.000 Brian, the Saudis themselves said this morning that the U.S. requested a one month's delay to the OPEC plus output.

00:28:31.000 I wonder why that would be.

00:28:32.000 Brian, can you tell me whether you did ask the Saudis for a one month's delay to that decision?

00:28:37.000 Are they telling the truth?

00:28:39.000 Look, we clearly communicated our views to OPEC members that we thought it was short-sighted for them to take the action that they were contemplating and they announced.

00:28:49.000 Yeah, and look, this is very clear to me.

00:28:51.000 And I've said this.

00:28:52.000 By the way, Brian Dees, Charlie, former head of global sustainable investing at BlackRock, now at the White House.

00:28:58.000 Yeah, no, that's exactly right.

00:29:01.000 And so, yeah, and just kind of one other thought that, you know, we've been pushing forward here with, you know, Saudi Arabia not wanting to play ball here.

00:29:09.000 Saudi Arabia is very upset at the Biden regime over multiple things with kind of them cuddling up to Iran.

00:29:17.000 And also, you know, Russia kind of getting involved with the production cut with Saudi Arabia.

00:29:22.000 Russia does not want an all-blue Congress either right now.

00:29:26.000 Not to say that, you know, a red Congress would be a friend of Russia, but the non-stop flow of billions of dollars to Ukraine, obviously Russia has some vested interest to try to slow that down right now.

00:29:38.000 And so you've got to think that there's some foreign, there's some foreign interests here in more ways than one.

00:29:46.000 They're not fans of Joe Biden.

00:29:47.000 They're trying to do something here.

00:29:48.000 But then Joe Biden goes out of his way to just so nakedly and blatantly try to do a quid pro quo for political gain when it comes to energy production.

00:29:56.000 I mean, how is this not impeachable compared to what they went after Donald Trump for?

00:30:01.000 So.

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00:30:57.000 Jack, switching gears for a second, the Pennsylvania Senate race is something you're obviously very passionate about, defeating Mr. Fetterman.

00:31:05.000 What is going on here?

00:31:06.000 What do the chances look like?

00:31:07.000 You're a native Pennsylvanian.

00:31:08.000 Do you think that we have a chance to defeat Mr. Fetterman?

00:31:12.000 Well, Charlie, when I look at both Pennsylvania races, the Senate race, the governor's race, I think that things stand at possibly the best place they could be right now for both of these.

00:31:23.000 You've seen Fetterman, both himself physically and his campaign actually collapse over the timing of this.

00:31:30.000 And Dr. Oz, and I know there are a lot of people, obviously myself, you know, pretty much on the record about him during the primary, but I think there are a lot of people just objectively weren't sure what his chances would be in a Pennsylvania race.

00:31:42.000 Now it looks like he's on the path to becoming a United States senator.

00:31:47.000 I'm going to be going up to Pennsylvania tomorrow.

00:31:49.000 I'm speaking in Erie, Pennsylvania, so all the way up in the northwest quarter of Pennsylvania, right there in the Great Lakes.

00:31:55.000 Remember, Pennsylvania is a border state.

00:31:57.000 People forget that, but it's actually true.

00:31:59.000 And what we're seeing is we're going to be going hard in the paint because this is the final three weeks of the election.

00:32:07.000 And so I don't want people to just sit back and think, oh, things are looking good.

00:32:10.000 Cary Lake's looking good, wherever you are.

00:32:12.000 Florida obviously has a governor's race as well.

00:32:14.000 And when you look at Pennsylvania, Real Clear Politics has an article up today by Athen Kutzerumbus, and it states that the Pennsylvania suburbs are actually experiencing a Molotov cocktail of anger in terms of the place where the country is at right now.

00:32:31.000 Because when you're looking at their inflation, when you're looking at the economy, when you're looking at the fact that they can't get jobs, plus, you're also seeing more and more numbers of millennials, particularly in the collar counties around Philadelphia, where I'm from, by the way, you're seeing more and more millennials move back in with their retired parents.

00:32:51.000 Sometimes these millennials might have children of their own.

00:32:53.000 So you're sort of seeing this inverse multi-generational trend of families living together in the same household, but not in the way that they used to in the past in traditional societies.

00:33:03.000 That all of this represents a break in what they were told and what so many people were told would be the American dream for them.

00:33:11.000 Go to college, go to high school, or go to get your master's, you'll be competitive, you'll get a job, you'll be able to afford a giant house in McMansion right out of it.

00:33:20.000 You're seeing the real anger in the Philadelphia area.

00:33:23.000 You're seeing that in the suburbs.

00:33:24.000 And in the suburbs, by the way, that's where the violence of Philadelphia comes to play because that violence is now spilling out into the suburbs.

00:33:33.000 You're seeing gang initiations of people.

00:33:37.000 Charlie, they showed up outside of a high school football game to murder some players as a gang initiation.

00:33:44.000 These were adults, by the way, adult gang members that were killing children in order to do this.

00:33:49.000 And so people in the suburbs, they're looking at this and saying, look, we need change.

00:33:55.000 We need to look at a new way forward.

00:33:58.000 And maybe you do need somebody who's not going to be soft on crime like John Fetterman has been, someone who's, by the way, soft in the head, like John Fetterman is actually can't, you know, you actually, he actually can't hold a conversation in real life without being hooked up to a computer.

00:34:12.000 And I don't mean like the way that you and I are, you know, talking over a computer in terms of the internet.

00:34:17.000 I mean, literally, he needs a cybernetic appendage, you know, talk about transhumanism to be able to have a conversation. 0.52

00:34:23.000 Doug Mastriano, when you just talked about the economy there, when you talked about energy, the Marcella Shale find, Doug Mastriano has a plan, pipelines.

00:34:32.000 Thank you.

00:34:32.000 Great job, Jack.

00:34:33.000 Awesome commentary as always.

00:34:34.000 Love it.

00:34:35.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:34:38.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:39.000 Email me your thoughts as always.

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00:34:44.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - October 13, 2022

Alex Jones Fined 1 Billion Dollars?? With Jack Posobiec

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