The Charlie Kirk Show - Allie Beth Stuckey | The Dangers of ‘Woke Christianity’

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00:01:44.000 Allie, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:46.000 Well, thank you so much, Charlie, and thanks for having me.

00:01:49.000 So a lot happening in the world right now.

00:01:49.000 Of course.

00:01:52.000 Yes. 0.78

00:01:53.000 I have been very outspoken against Christian pastors commenting on the entire conversation without giving the full picture.

00:02:03.000 You're an outspoken Christian woman, evangelical, if I'm not mistaken, or at least in that kind of part of Christianity.

00:02:12.000 What is your take on all this?

00:02:13.000 And how should Christians interpret how outspoken these pastors have been?

00:02:18.000 Look, to give most pastors, at least the ones that I've seen, evangelical pastors, the benefit of the doubt, I think they want to do the right thing.

00:02:25.000 I think they want to show compassion and sympathy for people who are hurting.

00:02:29.000 And of course, the Bible tells us to mourn with those who mourn.

00:02:32.000 And anyone with a Christian worldview saw the video happened to George Floyd and said, that is an image bearer of God.

00:02:38.000 And this is a tragic thing to watch.

00:02:40.000 We pray for his family. 0.75

00:02:41.000 We pray for justice to be executed.

00:02:44.000 We pray for righteous laws in a society where people are treated equally.

00:02:49.000 All of these things are absolutely true.

00:02:51.000 What has disappointed me is not pastors saying that, which is biblically accurate, but pastors latching on to activist movements that want nothing to do with biblical Christianity and that go against, for example, God's definition of what the family is, of what morality is, of what society should look like, simply because they think allying themselves to worldly movements and to worldly organizations, well, I don't know, mark them safe from woke criticism.

00:03:20.000 I'm not really sure, but I have a lot of friends who go to churches that you would have thought and who say that they are theologically solid and maybe even theologically conservative, offering books and resources that are not just to the left politically, which maybe we could expect, but completely anti-biblical in their approach.

00:03:40.000 Rather than elevating voices, there are black conservative Christian voices that have another story to tell, that have another perspective to give, but too many woke pastors are scared to elevate that kind of that side of the conversation.

00:03:55.000 Instead, they're only going to promote things like Tenahisi Coates, who is an outspoken atheist, and they are going to promote things like white fragility and all of this Marxist nonsense simply because I don't think that they're educated in what the right point of view when it comes to race and these kind of issues is.

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00:05:35.000 So Allie, you said it's anti-biblical.

00:05:38.000 Can you dive deeper into that?

00:05:40.000 Yes.

00:05:40.000 So some of these, well, it depends on which parts you're talking about.

00:05:44.000 So I believe that Marxism in itself is anti-biblical.

00:05:48.000 It breaks people up by these collectivist groups.

00:05:51.000 So by their class, of course, that's original Marxism, but cultural and social Marxism breaks people up by their socioeconomic class, by their sexual orientation, by their so-called gender identity and all of that.

00:06:03.000 And they assign oppression points to each class.

00:06:06.000 I'm not telling you anything that you don't know, Charlie, but just in case some people in your audience are unfamiliar, that kind of mindset, that collectivist mindset of mankind and splitting people up by perceived oppression is simply not biblical.

00:06:19.000 When we stand before God, we will stand before God as individuals.

00:06:23.000 Pastors will also give an account for their churches.

00:06:26.000 Fathers and husbands will give an account for their families, but we will stand before God as individuals.

00:06:32.000 God's justice is not a kind of collectivist justice that we see reflected in cultural Marxism.

00:06:39.000 We can look at how he set up the nation of Israel.

00:06:42.000 And even though we as Christians don't abide by the cleansing laws, for example, we can still see his heart for justice.

00:06:49.000 And what I like to point out to people is that God's definition of justice is direct, it's proportional, and it is individual, and it is based in truth.

00:07:01.000 And what we are seeing right now from cultural Marxists who have unfortunately used the tragedy of George Floyd to try to start some kind of cultural Marxist revolution is we are seeing a justice that doesn't meet any of the qualifications of God's definition of justice as proportional, direct, individual, and truthful.

00:07:18.000 We see them saying, oh, we want justice for George Floyd and we want justice by what?

00:07:23.000 By burning down buildings, by ruining the lives of, by the way, majority, minority people in these communities, poor people in these communities, we are going to murder other people for justice.

00:07:35.000 Where is the woke Christian pastor saying that's not God's definition of justice? 0.98

00:07:39.000 That's not God's definition of love.

00:07:41.000 That breaks God's heart too.

00:07:43.000 Too many pastors are too scared to criticize that because they are allowing the world and these unbiblical activist groups to inform them on what compassion and love and justice looks like rather than being light in darkness as we are called to be and informing the world to know here's what God's justice looks like.

00:08:01.000 Here's what his true compassion looks like.

00:08:03.000 Here are solutions that we believe can create a society in which all people in the womb and out of the womb of all different melanin counts are regarded as image bearers of God and are treated with value.

00:08:16.000 Too many pastors don't want to have that conversation.

00:08:18.000 They just want to be woke.

00:08:19.000 And that is an eternal, an eternal disservice to the people in their churches.

00:08:24.000 It's well said.

00:08:25.000 And what makes Western society different, and it's based on the Bible, it's based on the teachings of Jesus Christ, that you are made in the image of God, but you're your own sovereign being.

00:08:37.000 So your salvation is independent of your father or your mother's salvation.

00:08:43.000 So if your mother is saved, she can pray for you, she can pour into you, but you could go your own way.

00:08:52.000 And so, but you are basically categorized as your own human being.

00:08:57.000 The left all of a sudden is saying, no, that's not true.

00:09:01.000 That based on your skin color or your economic class, depending on which blend or flavor of postmodernist Marxist nonsense that you choose on the buffet line of how to destroy America, whichever one that you might select, they believe in blood guilt almost.

00:09:17.000 This is a return to 13th century feudalism, where if your father did something wrong against the king, he says you and your children's children and your children's children will be banished into the hills for XYZ generations.

00:09:35.000 And so they say, but you as an individual are privileged.

00:09:40.000 And so, Ellie, I'd love to have you comment on this because a lot of social media activists and Christian social media activists are buying into this. 0.51

00:09:51.000 Comment on that first of all, and then can you just cross-examine a lot of these Christian social media activists outside of the pastors that are posting the black squares, they are peddling the information.

00:10:05.000 Do you think this comes from a good place or maybe a somewhat in between place?

00:10:10.000 Please, I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.

00:10:12.000 Look, I think that we can't judge people's hearts because the Bible says Jeremiah 17:9, our hearts are desperately wicked.

00:10:19.000 Who can understand it?

00:10:20.000 But as I say that to the people who are posting the black squares, which by the way, I do not think is productive at all. 0.97

00:10:26.000 It's a form of slacktivism and it doesn't actually make any difference in anyone's life. 0.81

00:10:32.000 But I cannot judge every single person's heart who posted the black square.

00:10:36.000 Of course, I would like to think that a lot of people, especially my friends who I love and I know love the Lord, posted things like that.

00:10:43.000 I'm not going to judge people's heart.

00:10:45.000 But when, as I give that kind of deference, what people need to realize on the other side of this issue is that you have to give the same deference to every to other people when you're talking about racism.

00:10:55.000 So, racism, like all other isms, exists in the human heart.

00:10:59.000 Yes, sometimes we know what it looks like.

00:11:02.000 Sometimes it is very overt, and we can say, okay, that action or that word or that, you know, era slavery, Jim Crow, for example, that was obviously racist.

00:11:12.000 But for these people who are saying, well, basically, all things are racist.

00:11:16.000 And racism doesn't just exist in the human heart.

00:11:18.000 It exists in the mind of people who say what's racist and what's not.

00:11:22.000 And you, as a white person, you have no authority whatsoever to say what's racist, to say what's white supremacists.

00:11:27.000 You cannot even defend yourself against accusations of racism because you don't know what racism is.

00:11:32.000 That is what I have heard called someone named Vodhie Bakum coined this term ethnic Gnosticism.

00:11:38.000 This idea that you have special knowledge based on your ethnicity.

00:11:43.000 So you get to tell someone else what's racist.

00:11:45.000 They cannot say what's racist, and you can never be guilty of racism.

00:11:48.000 That is moral relativism.

00:11:50.000 Like that is not rooted in the objective truth of the Bible.

00:11:54.000 All isms go by one name in the Bible, and that is hate.

00:11:57.000 And we know that as Christians, hate is wrong.

00:12:00.000 That Jesus says that if you hate someone in your heart, that that is actually murder.

00:12:05.000 So he takes it to that level.

00:12:07.000 1 John tells us that we cannot hate our brother and say that we love God.

00:12:11.000 Those two things don't go hand in hand.

00:12:13.000 So Christians know that hate is wrong.

00:12:15.000 What we're not against calling out when someone hates someone because of the color of their skin.

00:12:20.000 Of course, we are for calling that out and calling for that injustice.

00:12:23.000 But again, this collectivist idea of justice, this idea of ethnic Gnosticism that says everything is white supremacist because someone says it is, everything and everyone is racist because someone says it is.

00:12:34.000 That is not rooted in the idea of objective truth.

00:12:38.000 And if you need to know what objective truth is, you find it in the word of God.

00:12:41.000 That's the beautiful part about being a Christian.

00:12:44.000 And what I try to tell Christians as well is like, look that the look at the so-called righteousness that the woke and that the secular world is prescribing to you.

00:12:52.000 It is ever-changing.

00:12:53.000 It is ever elusive.

00:12:54.000 They're basically saying that you never really will be righteous, that you literally have to take a knee or be prostrate on your face in order to be forgiven by our woke overlords.

00:13:04.000 Their standards are ever changing.

00:13:06.000 That is not a biblical standard.

00:13:07.000 The standard for the Christ follower is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength, to love your neighbor as yourself.

00:13:14.000 Jesus' burden is light.

00:13:15.000 His yoke is easy.

00:13:17.000 The yoke of the woke is really difficult, and their burden is really heavy because their standards of righteousness are changing.

00:13:23.000 So, my encouragement to Christians who feel weighed down, who feel like, okay, I got to know everything about white privilege, and I got to know everything about secret racism that might exist somewhere in my heart.

00:13:34.000 And yes, you should ask God to search your heart.

00:13:36.000 Just realize that God has already given you the standard that you need to follow.

00:13:41.000 He's already told you what righteousness and holiness look like.

00:13:44.000 He's already told you what justice looks like.

00:13:46.000 And he has graciously given us the objective word of God to be able to find those answers.

00:13:50.000 You're not going to find it in the book called White Fragility. 0.68

00:13:53.000 You're just not. 1.00

00:13:54.000 So that should be good news for Christians.

00:13:56.000 Like that should be very freeing and refreshing.

00:13:59.000 A lot of Christians, I think, have felt pressured to post things on social media that they're not really sure about.

00:14:04.000 They feel like, okay, I do, I want to say all lives matter because I know Jesus believes that all lives matter, but I think I'm going to be, you know, called a racist if I say that.

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00:15:25.000 So, on that note, there's so many young Christians that listen to our podcasts, both of ours, and we get hundreds of messages, especially recently.

00:15:34.000 I have never seen the digital assassination cancel culture as bad as it is right now.

00:15:39.000 It is the worst.

00:15:40.000 And quite honestly, not enough conservatives are taking definitive stands on this.

00:15:45.000 And our Republicans have been awful.

00:15:47.000 The president's been great.

00:15:48.000 So many Republicans have just run to the hills. 1.00

00:15:50.000 I talked to a couple of senators the other day, and they're cowards. 0.97

00:15:54.000 I'm not going to say their names, but they're like, well, it's a tough time for America. 0.99

00:15:57.000 I said, we're getting killed out here.

00:16:00.000 Young Christians are losing their jobs, are getting kicked out as fraternity sororities. 0.60

00:16:04.000 Some are getting kicked out of school.

00:16:07.000 There's a young lady that's a turning point USA ambassador, Reagan Escude. 0.73

00:16:11.000 I always mispronounce her last name, but she lost her job because Allie, she posted on her social media, the tenants of the Black Lives Matter movement are anti-biblical. 0.76

00:16:23.000 Lost her job.

00:16:24.000 Fired.

00:16:25.000 What do you have to say, especially to young women that are afraid to speak out, that are afraid to lose their jobs, that have a lot of, let's just say, cost associated with advocacy?

00:16:38.000 What is your message to them? 0.92

00:16:40.000 Look, the time is up for the cultural Christian. 0.95

00:16:44.000 So it is no longer easy or safe or convenient or popular or lucrative to be a Christian anymore.

00:16:51.000 And so all the people who were at one time Christian in name only because it was just the mainstream popular thing to do and they were too afraid to say that they're not Christians.

00:16:59.000 Well, those people are now, they are now able to be brazenly atheistic or agnostic or whatever it is because it is much more dangerous today to be a Christian.

00:17:09.000 It is much more costly to be a Christian than it is to be an outspoken atheist.

00:17:14.000 And so there is a lot of sadness and a lot of fear, of course, and a lot of caution and anxiety surrounding being an outspoken Christian right now because of the cost that is involved.

00:17:24.000 But I just want to encourage those young women that the Bible tells us that what we're going through right now, the persecution that you might be going through right now, the true persecution, I'm not trying to be, you know, hyperbolic or, you know, victimhood status or anything like that, but true persecution that you are going through right now.

00:17:41.000 God says that the glory that you will experience one day and in heaven far outweighs any persecution or any tribulation that you are going through right now.

00:17:50.000 What we have to realize is that the American experiment, as far as religious liberty goes, very, very rare, very unique point in all of human history. 0.94

00:18:01.000 For most of human history, Christians have been slaughtered. 0.79

00:18:04.000 Christians have been martyred.

00:18:06.000 They've been persecuted.

00:18:07.000 They've been thrown in jail.

00:18:08.000 They've been tortured.

00:18:09.000 They have been silenced.

00:18:10.000 Their churches have been burned down.

00:18:12.000 That is most of human history.

00:18:13.000 And in fact, it's happening right now.

00:18:15.000 And while I believe we should fight as hard as possible for religious liberty of people of all faiths for our protection, and I'm very thankful for what President Trump has done in the way of that, we have to realize also that the persecution that may be coming and that is already here right now is what our brothers and sisters in Christ have been experiencing all over the world.

00:18:37.000 And Christ gives you the same strength, the same calling that he has given to every other Christian in all of history.

00:18:43.000 And the perseverance, the endurance, the sticking to the truth will one day be worth it, even when it hurts right now.

00:18:50.000 Amen.

00:18:50.000 And Allie, you just brought a great point up.

00:18:52.000 And Christianity has gone in many different cycles.

00:18:55.000 But for people that have studied the entire lifespan of Christianity, the first couple hundred years of Christianity was a struggle.

00:19:02.000 I mean, there was persecutions, there was martyrdom, stonings.

00:19:08.000 A lot of Christianity in that period of time was an almost an underground cryptic.

00:19:12.000 Like they were almost literally in the crypts.

00:19:14.000 It wasn't until Constantine's conversion when a lot of that changed, where it became a predominant, almost widespread institutional religion.

00:19:27.000 Still a lot of persecution of Christianity has existed.

00:19:30.000 However, what you said is a very interesting point, and I'm going to repeat it now.

00:19:33.000 I will attribute to you, where now Christianity has actually gone through a pivot moment.

00:19:37.000 Whereas when I was growing up, it was non-controversial.

00:19:40.000 It was widely accepted.

00:19:42.000 And it was actually in the hierarchy of what was considered to be okay.

00:19:48.000 It was definitely in that bucket.

00:19:50.000 I think that has now switched, where now you are criticized, persecuted, kicked out. 0.96

00:19:56.000 And now Christians have never been absent of persecution. 0.74

00:19:59.000 I'm not saying that, but what I'm saying more structurally, I think those tables have turned. 0.94

00:20:05.000 Can you comment more on that?

00:20:06.000 Yes, I think that you're absolutely right.

00:20:09.000 And what we are seeing right now in the rioting and these so-called autonomous zones and really just the whole revolution and the ideas behind the revolution are anti-God ideas.

00:20:21.000 And we have talked about this before about how they have the people who are screaming, abolish the police, abolish prisons, pretty much don't have a justice system, don't have our rule of law that is based not on their political beliefs, but on their theological beliefs.

00:20:36.000 It's a godless belief because they don't believe in true human nature that we read about in the Bible, that you and I are naturally depraved, that we have original sin, and that's why we need to be saved by Jesus, our Savior.

00:20:49.000 They don't believe that.

00:20:50.000 They believe that human beings are naturally good, but societal oppressors like the police or like prison systems make people bad.

00:20:59.000 So if we release people from all of that, we won't really need a rule of law.

00:21:02.000 We won't really need law enforcement.

00:21:04.000 We won't need any kind of prison system or anything like that.

00:21:08.000 So those are our disagreements.

00:21:10.000 They are very fundamental disagreements.

00:21:13.000 And we're already seeing the manifestation of building, trying to build a kind of society or a governance on that godless idea that human beings don't need a law.

00:21:23.000 They don't need discipline.

00:21:24.000 They don't need law enforcement.

00:21:25.000 We're seeing exactly what that looks like.

00:21:27.000 It's anarchy.

00:21:29.000 It's burning things down.

00:21:30.000 It is looting.

00:21:32.000 It is absolute chaos.

00:21:33.000 It is amorality, immorality, killing.

00:21:36.000 It's exactly what you would think it would be for a society to completely abandon the God who made them.

00:21:44.000 As C.S. Lewis argues, is a lot of people have argued without a supreme moral lawgiver, which we as Christians know to be God, there is no moral law.

00:21:53.000 Everyone is their own God.

00:21:55.000 Everyone has their own individual morality.

00:21:58.000 And what everyone is their own gods, and you live in that kind of like individual, if you want to call it, a theocracy where everyone is kind of saying what morality is for themselves and their own truths and moral relativism and all of that, you get chaos.

00:22:13.000 We can't agree on anything.

00:22:15.000 We can't agree on the fundamentals of what society should look like.

00:22:18.000 And that is the dichotomy that we're seeing in America.

00:22:22.000 And if you want to go down that route, all you have to do is look at the literal burning down of cities to know what that kind of governance, what a godless governance looks like.

00:22:31.000 Yeah, without a God, right and wrong is just an opinion.

00:22:35.000 I mean, without God, it is just, well, I don't think burning down a building is wrong because it's my truth.

00:22:42.000 I mean, my truth is that arson is beautiful.

00:22:45.000 I'm like, well, you probably like modern art too.

00:22:48.000 So that's a different conversation for every time.

00:22:51.000 So what you've mentioned, though, is so important.

00:22:54.000 I did an entire podcast on this, which is now we're having an entire conversation of human nature, which in some ways is simultaneously depressing and also awesome.

00:23:06.000 It's depressing because we shouldn't have to have this conversation in the year 2020.

00:23:11.000 We have an abundant, unlimited amount of history and text to show that human beings are flawed by nature and that it's not private property.

00:23:21.000 It's not the system that makes you murderous or racist or likely to do evil.

00:23:28.000 In fact, the entire 20th century should be a pretty good instruction manual, just the 20th century.

00:23:32.000 You're 1900 from 2000, 100 million people murdered.

00:23:36.000 I also believe, Allie, that there's a war on men in our country, that there's a war on masculinity.

00:23:42.000 And that because I did an entire podcast on this, you are a, obviously, you're a woman, you're an outspoken, you know, conservative woman.

00:23:50.000 And typically, I get criticized by people on the far left, especially feminists, for even saying that there's a war on men in America.

00:23:58.000 And as an extension of that, there's just weak men in America.

00:24:01.000 And so I think the war on men creates weak men.

00:24:06.000 You know, a lot of young women come to me, and a lot of young women listen to this podcast say, where can I find good men?

00:24:10.000 What is the solution here?

00:24:11.000 I'm just going to kind of leave it to you to take it wherever you want on this, but what's your comments on the entire role of the masculine in American society?

00:24:20.000 Yeah, so this is another, I think, this is another way that Marxism, or at least the idea of Marxism, has infiltrated our society.

00:24:27.000 That we have the oppressed class and the oppressor class.

00:24:34.000 And we have decided that men, because they established the country, because they had the most rights first and all of that stuff, that they are part of the oppressor class.

00:24:43.000 And so we kind of, in a collectivist way, we ascribe that to them.

00:24:47.000 And therefore, because of the rules, stupid rules of intersectionality, we ascribe social capital and political capital to how many oppression points you have. 0.95

00:24:58.000 So, for example, you have zero oppression points because you are a straight white male and Christian and all of that. 0.99

00:25:03.000 That's just terrible.

00:25:04.000 I probably have like one oppression point because I am a woman.

00:25:08.000 And that's how these intersectionalists, again, a godless mentality, that's how they view the world.

00:25:14.000 And that's how they view who has credibility, who can speak on something, and who can't.

00:25:18.000 And so I think that's part, at least partly, of what is under this hatred of masculinity is seeing it as some sort of oppression.

00:25:28.000 But it is also just a simple rebellion against God.

00:25:32.000 It simply is.

00:25:33.000 Now, of course, we know that God transcends our understanding.

00:25:37.000 God the Father transcends our understanding of what, you know, of male and female.

00:25:42.000 He's not like a human body, but he does describe himself as a father.

00:25:46.000 Jesus obviously came in the form of a man and he is a king.

00:25:50.000 There are masculine attributes that we see attributed to the Godhead.

00:25:54.000 Not that there aren't any feminine attributes, but he uses masculine pronouns.

00:26:00.000 He uses masculine descriptions to describe himself.

00:26:04.000 And I do think that a lot of the rebellion against masculinity is also rebellion against God himself.

00:26:10.000 There are a lot of so-called progressive Christians that insist upon referring to God as a she or as a mother. 0.83

00:26:17.000 So I guess you have to use the correct gender pronoun for everyone except for God. 0.94

00:26:23.000 And I think that is part of what's behind it too. 1.00

00:26:25.000 Again, godlessness leads to insanity.

00:26:28.000 It leads to illogic.

00:26:30.000 It leads to pushing away things that are good, things that are necessary for society.

00:26:35.000 We know that strong men, strong, responsible men, men who want to take care of their families, take care of the weak, not exploit them, take care of women, take care of children, that is part of the bedrock of society.

00:26:48.000 And with weak men, you have an entirely vulnerable society.

00:26:51.000 I had a conversation with someone. 0.90

00:26:52.000 I don't always engage with people who send me Instagram DMs, but I was like, what the heck?

00:26:57.000 This person had an interesting take about abolishing the police.

00:27:00.000 And I just asked her, you know, what she thought.

00:27:03.000 Who are you going to call if you get assaulted or something like that?

00:27:06.000 Do you believe in the Second Amendment? 0.99

00:27:07.000 No, she doesn't believe in the Second Amendment.

00:27:08.000 And I said, so who am I supposed to call?

00:27:10.000 If someone breaks into my house, my husband is at home.

00:27:12.000 I'm protecting me and my child.

00:27:13.000 What do I do?

00:27:14.000 She told me, and this is an exact quote, that it is internalized misogyny that I believe that I wouldn't be able to, even without a gun, defend myself from a man who breaks into my home.

00:27:27.000 So they don't see the value in masculinity because again, they don't believe in inherent human nature.

00:27:32.000 They don't believe in basic biology that men just are stronger than women are and we need that.

00:27:38.000 It is a denial of reality. 0.51

00:27:40.000 It's a denial of what's good.

00:27:42.000 It's a denial of what's necessary.

00:27:44.000 It's a denial of human nature.

00:27:46.000 I think a lot of that is also behind the suppressing of masculinity.

00:27:50.000 And we were talking about woke pastors earlier.

00:27:53.000 Quite frankly, I think a lot of pastors, again, buying into this, oh, I just have to be, I can't speak the truth.

00:28:00.000 I just need to be loving and gentle and not really say anything offensive.

00:28:05.000 They feminized themselves. 0.97

00:28:07.000 They feminized the pulpit.

00:28:08.000 They've tried to feminize the gospel. 1.00

00:28:10.000 They've tried to feminize the word of God to appeal to what they think are oppressed feminists. 0.98

00:28:17.000 And that, again, is an eternal disservice to the people who are in the church.

00:28:22.000 So we, as Christian women, we have to honor responsible, Christ-like men who are masculine in all of the wonderful and good and godly ways that we want them to be.

00:28:32.000 We also know that masculinity, when it is unbound by morality, it can also be extremely destructive.

00:28:39.000 Women also need to realize that, but we need to honor and recognize and encourage good masculinity in our sons, in our husbands, in our brothers, and in our friends, and realize that there truly is a war on masculinity.

00:28:53.000 And that is one of, that is probably our first line of defense against chaos and enemies, both domestic and abroad.

00:29:04.000 It's really well said.

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00:30:28.000 So you have a book coming out called You're Not Enough, and that's okay.

00:30:32.000 I totally agree. 1.00

00:30:33.000 In fact, that is my message to young people is to basically, for the first time in a lot of these young people's lives, when they ask me about life advice and I speak at churches, I'm actually probably pretty brutally honest to them.

00:30:49.000 And I'm like, I actually, I reject the self-esteem movement.

00:30:54.000 I think the self-esteem movement has done so much damage.

00:30:56.000 Oh, yeah.

00:30:57.000 Like, you're the most wonderful thing in the world.

00:30:58.000 If I'm the most wonderful thing in the world, why am I at school?

00:31:01.000 I mean, why am I here?

00:31:02.000 I'm like educating myself.

00:31:03.000 I think self-control is way more important than self-esteem.

00:31:07.000 Tell us about your book.

00:31:09.000 Tell us why you wrote it and how people can check it out.

00:31:12.000 Like you said, it's you're not enough and that's okay.

00:31:15.000 Escaping the toxic culture of self-love. 0.55

00:31:17.000 We go through five myths that I see young women just bombarded with on a daily basis.

00:31:22.000 You can't love other people until you love yourself.

00:31:25.000 You determine your own truth.

00:31:28.000 And, you know, some other myths.

00:31:29.000 I don't want to give them all away.

00:31:31.000 And we just talk about how society, how social media, how even so-called Christian influencers are feeding us these messages, where they are actually coming from. 0.57

00:31:40.000 I mean, this is decades of atheistic psychology and new age mysticism that is being wetted together in a philosophy that is now infecting our current age and especially young women.

00:31:53.000 And even again, infiltrating the church and Christian influencers. 0.50

00:31:58.000 And it is destructive. 0.61

00:31:59.000 It's destructive.

00:32:00.000 It warps your view on who God is, on who you are, why you need a savior, what sanctification is, and it robs you of the true joy and satisfaction and purpose that can only be found not in self-love, but in self-denial empowered by the Holy Spirit in Christ.

00:32:17.000 And so we just debunk five myths about this whole self-esteem movement and we refute them with the truth of God.

00:32:24.000 And we end it all in bringing it all together by saying, This is all good news.

00:32:29.000 I'm not pushing for self-deprecation or self-loathing or self-hatred.

00:32:32.000 Those are actually all forms of self-obsession as well.

00:32:35.000 But taking our eyes off of ourselves on the Lord and putting them on the Lord and the needs of other people and how that leads to the joyful and purposeful life that so many young people are looking for.

00:32:48.000 It's well said, Allie.

00:32:49.000 And surrendering and knowing that you're not the most important thing in the world is actually rather liberating.

00:32:55.000 And I think young people need to hear that message.

00:32:58.000 So, well, thank you for joining the show, Allie.

00:33:00.000 Check out Allie's podcast, Relatable, with Allie B. Stuckey.

00:33:04.000 And thanks so much for joining the show.

00:33:06.000 Thanks so much, Charlie.

00:33:08.000 You bet.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - June 12, 2020

Allie Beth Stuckey | The Dangers of ‘Woke Christianity’

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