The Charlie Kirk Show - AMA: Ask Us Anything 255: State of the Church? Normalization of Political Violence? Scripture vs. the Law?

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.

00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.

00:00:14.000 If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable.

00:00:19.000 But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful.

00:00:24.000 College is a scam, everybody.

00:00:26.000 You got to stop sending your kids to college.

00:00:27.000 You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.

00:00:31.000 Go start a Turning Point USA college chapter.

00:00:33.000 Go start a Turning Point USA high school chapter.

00:00:35.000 Go find out how your church can get involved.

00:00:37.000 Sign up and become an activist.

00:00:39.000 I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade.

00:00:41.000 Most important decision I ever made in my life.

00:00:43.000 And I encourage you to do the same.

00:00:45.000 Here I am.

00:00:46.000 Lord, use me.

00:00:48.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:49.000 Here we go.

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00:01:09.000 All right, we are back.

00:01:10.000 Hour two is underway.

00:01:11.000 It is the Ask Us Anything.

00:01:14.000 And by the way, I just couldn't say enough good things about our guests here.

00:01:20.000 Obviously, Mikey McCoy. 0.56

00:01:22.000 The mediocre.

00:01:24.000 Insert adjective, Mikey McCoy.

00:01:27.000 Let's not insert an adjective, Mikey McCoy.

00:01:30.000 And then the, what'd you call him, the jacked pastor Amanchuki?

00:01:34.000 You are pretty.

00:01:35.000 Jacked Almanchuki.

00:01:36.000 He's a formidable president.

00:01:36.000 I would say that.

00:01:37.000 For those who only heard his voice, he is a formidable president.

00:01:40.000 I mean, I'm going to say something I shouldn't.

00:01:42.000 If I was coming down the side of the street in the middle of the night and you were walking past me, I would go to the other side.

00:01:48.000 Just because you're so big.

00:01:50.000 Well, you know what, Andrew?

00:01:52.000 You are legitimately.

00:01:53.000 I would feel the same way, brother.

00:01:55.000 If I was walking down the street and I saw you with that square jaw at night.

00:02:00.000 They call it Charlotte.

00:02:01.000 I'm going to the other side as well.

00:02:02.000 Chinbogging. 1.00

00:02:03.000 Chinbogging. 1.00

00:02:05.000 Before we get to the question.

00:02:06.000 I was going to say, one sec.

00:02:08.000 I was going to say.

00:02:10.000 I ended the last hour talking about men with chest.

00:02:12.000 Yes.

00:02:13.000 And that is, I mean, I just, I really do think there is no more powerful force in civilization than a fully formed man.

00:02:22.000 And I did steal that from C.S. Lewis, but it really is who you are.

00:02:26.000 You are a man of courage.

00:02:27.000 You speak your mind.

00:02:29.000 You are fearless.

00:02:30.000 Maybe you're not fearless.

00:02:31.000 Maybe you have fear, but you overcome it with your courage.

00:02:33.000 And I know that all comes from your faith.

00:02:35.000 And Charlie saw that in you as well.

00:02:37.000 So we're just so glad to have you.

00:02:38.000 Hey, it's an honor.

00:02:39.000 First and foremost, I pay respect and homage to the legacy of Charlie Kirk.

00:02:44.000 I will never forget him.

00:02:46.000 He came along and supported my ministry when I had 400 followers on Instagram.

00:02:52.000 Before I was known for going viral at school board meetings, Charlie believed in the work that I was doing.

00:02:58.000 So I have to always keep that at the forefront.

00:03:01.000 We live in a day where loyalties don't matter.

00:03:04.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:03:05.000 People betray you for nothing.

00:03:09.000 It's rare where you see that a person may have had their demise, but yet and still the person remains consistent.

00:03:17.000 We live in an age of inconsistent people.

00:03:21.000 I won't betray his legacy.

00:03:23.000 I'll continue to support TPUSA, support Erica Kirk, who's doing a phenomenal job.

00:03:30.000 And you guys are trying to do something that's merely impossible.

00:03:35.000 You're trying to carry on the work of a leader who's essentially a one-of-one leader.

00:03:42.000 Once in a generation.

00:03:43.000 All right.

00:03:44.000 Once in a lifetime leader.

00:03:46.000 But you understand that what God gave Charlie was for Charlie.

00:03:51.000 But there's an anointing and grace that God gives us all.

00:03:55.000 And we have to flow in that anointing and in that grace.

00:03:59.000 It may take 10 people to equal to what Charlie did.

00:04:04.000 But yet and still, we can do it because of the anointing that God leaves to do the work.

00:04:10.000 Amen.

00:04:12.000 Well, well said.

00:04:13.000 And, you know, we're just grateful to have, I'm glad we texted last night and I was like, dude, you got to come.

00:04:17.000 You got to come in.

00:04:18.000 Indeed.

00:04:20.000 Before we hit the questions, I wanted to get, we talked about MAID, the assisted suicide thing in Canada, and I got a lot of emails.

00:04:27.000 And I blew up the email.

00:04:28.000 So really, a lot of people had strong health.

00:04:29.000 And I wanted to read some of them because I thought it's important to really drive this point home, especially when it resonates with our audience.

00:04:35.000 Deborah points out, I have a friend in Canada who has lupus or had lupus and could not get proper care.

00:04:42.000 So instead, they just offered her MAID.

00:04:44.000 She had just turned 50.

00:04:45.000 She has a husband.

00:04:46.000 She has a child.

00:04:47.000 She refused for obvious reasons.

00:04:50.000 But Canada's health system is broken.

00:04:52.000 Praise God that she is a Christian.

00:04:54.000 They're literally shoving it down people's throats.

00:04:56.000 Yes, they'll just serve their actively encouraging it.

00:04:59.000 You want to know.

00:05:00.000 And you want to know what really freaks me out the most about this is how fast in one generation you can just switch to what was radical but is now normal.

00:05:08.000 And I was talking to my family about, you know, growing up, their generation would see movies where you could talk on the phone to your watch.

00:05:14.000 And they're like, and that happened in like 2013 with the Apple Watch.

00:05:18.000 But then now it's like way early on, the concept of a third trimester abortion was radical.

00:05:26.000 Now, and the concept of, you know, a medically assisted suicide was radical.

00:05:31.000 Or transing your kid was radical.

00:05:33.000 But within like a 50-year period, it's now normal.

00:05:37.000 And so you have to ask yourself, what's next?

00:05:40.000 Like, what comes after that?

00:05:41.000 And it's like, they're going to start normalizing marriage to an underage child.

00:05:46.000 If you want.

00:05:47.000 They're going to start normalizing polygamy. 1.00

00:05:50.000 Or, yeah, yeah.

00:05:51.000 And Canada, I feel mentioned this.

00:05:51.000 Yeah.

00:05:54.000 Canada was more Christian than America after World War II, if you can believe it. 0.92

00:05:59.000 But I want a couple more.

00:06:00.000 Joanne says, I know all about Made in Canada because Canadian doctors bury their mistakes.

00:06:06.000 My uncle had an ear infection, a quack, blew air into it, ruptured his eardrum, and the infection spread.

00:06:13.000 He traveled to Vancouver.

00:06:14.000 He couldn't stand the pain any longer.

00:06:14.000 They did nothing.

00:06:16.000 And the doctor was more than happy to help him end it all.

00:06:19.000 My aunt is still devastated two years later by the way he was treated.

00:06:23.000 This is an evil ideology of death.

00:06:27.000 And one more: Aaron points out: they should know that 1 Corinthians, do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's spirit dwells in you?

00:06:27.000 Amen.

00:06:37.000 If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him, for God's temple is holy, and you are that temple. 0.82

00:06:43.000 Assisted suicide is an abomination. 0.98

00:06:46.000 Wow.

00:06:46.000 Amen to that, Aaron.

00:06:48.000 But we have some subscriber questions, so let's dive into those.

00:06:51.000 Our first one is from Caleb.

00:06:55.000 Caleb, are you there?

00:06:56.000 Unmute yourself.

00:06:57.000 Yeah, I'm here.

00:06:57.000 Good morning.

00:06:58.000 Howdy.

00:06:59.000 I think it's a great chair that you guys have today because I had two church questions I wanted to ask you guys.

00:07:04.000 Excellent.

00:07:05.000 Excellent.

00:07:06.000 What is it?

00:07:06.000 Yeah.

00:07:07.000 My first question was: Many churches today seem to be struggling to keep young people connected and engaged.

00:07:13.000 From your perspective, what is the biggest issue churches need to fix and what steps can they take to rebuild their communities?

00:07:19.000 Well, first and foremost, the Bible says that God's truth endures to all generations.

00:07:24.000 With that in mind, we don't need a baby boomer gospel. 0.94

00:07:28.000 We don't need an X gospel. 0.96

00:07:30.000 We don't need a Gen Z gospel. 1.00

00:07:32.000 We need the gospel preached by men who have been impacted and changed by the gospel.

00:07:40.000 And so, about seven or eight years ago, I went to Barnes and Noble's to gain some understanding on what books were impacting kids.

00:07:48.000 And 70% of the books that I saw that was postured in the front of the store were about the occult world or pagan worship, which told me that people want to delve into mysticism.

00:08:02.000 They want to know that there's something out there that's supernatural.

00:08:06.000 And there is.

00:08:07.000 There are some false gods, but there's a real God that supersedes over the earth.

00:08:12.000 And now, more than ever, we need to have an emphasis in the Christian church on the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

00:08:20.000 People need to have an encounter with God.

00:08:22.000 And when you have an encounter with God, no one can shake what you have seen and what you know.

00:08:29.000 In addition, pastors must engage the culture.

00:08:33.000 We can't leave it up to social media and TikTok to educate the church on what's right, what's true, and what's just.

00:08:41.000 Many pastors today won't touch issues of transgenderism, abortion, the school system issues of whether some states want school choice or not, or not.

00:08:53.000 They won't touch it because they are afraid to tick off their more liberal members.

00:08:58.000 And so I say it this way: that weak pulpits create weak Christians. 1.00

00:09:03.000 Scary preachers create scary sheep.

00:09:07.000 And what we need now more than ever are pastors who are not afraid to be bludgeoned, right?

00:09:13.000 To be crucified afresh because of what they stand for and what they believe.

00:09:19.000 Because of that, so many say nothing and they allow the podcaster to dominate what's being said.

00:09:25.000 Wow.

00:09:26.000 I also think comes to mind Proverbs 22, 6, train up the child in the way he should go, and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

00:09:34.000 It ties into what we were talking about with the scouts.

00:09:38.000 You know, that's why when we had 10 million scouts in 1976, that was a lot of young men being raised up in the way they should go.

00:09:46.000 Let's go to the next question.

00:09:47.000 I think we got it.

00:09:49.000 I saw Caleb had a second half, but I think we did get to that.

00:09:52.000 The main thing struggling with, the church is struggling with is we got weak pastors.

00:09:56.000 Indeed.

00:09:56.000 Yeah, I think we got it.

00:09:58.000 Waters down goddamn church. 1.00

00:09:58.000 Strong. 1.00

00:10:00.000 Thank you, Caleb, for your question.

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00:10:34.000 And that kind of approach matters because feeling confident and comfortable about these platforms your teenagers are on shouldn't mean digging through a bunch of menus and trying to set everything up yourself and worrying that you got it wrong.

00:10:45.000 TikTok is taking a proactive approach.

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00:11:13.000 Our next is Rob.

00:11:15.000 Rob, unmute yourself and what's your question?

00:11:17.000 Hey, gentlemen, good afternoon.

00:11:19.000 Good afternoon.

00:11:20.000 So I live in a smaller county in Florida.

00:11:26.000 And actually a couple of months back, actually, my wife called into you guys.

00:11:31.000 Again, you get so many callers every week.

00:11:34.000 I'm sure you don't remember.

00:11:35.000 But she had called in and asked about how do we deal with an issue within our county, essentially that they were trying to hit us with an additional tax and we had a unique idea for it.

00:11:47.000 You guys actually gave her a really cool quote.

00:11:49.000 You played a quote from Erica about having a velvet spine of steel and withstanding people.

00:11:54.000 I remember that, yeah.

00:11:55.000 Yeah, yeah, really cool.

00:11:56.000 And that quotes everywhere.

00:11:57.000 But so, anyway, so they want to raise our taxes here, right?

00:12:00.000 So we dug into the budget, and what we found was kind of alarming.

00:12:05.000 So, over the course of about a 10-year period, we actually found in our little Florida county about $180 million that nobody can really account for for why they collected at nine.

00:12:17.000 I'm an accountant, I have 11 spreadsheets all over this.

00:12:22.000 And I mean, it's actually legit, and not to get too nerdy on you, but basically, our property taxes grew by about 161% over the last 10 years, but population only went up by about 35%.

00:12:32.000 Inflation is about 28%.

00:12:34.000 So, there's a big gap essentially.

00:12:37.000 So, like last year, they collected what would have been the equivalent of an extra like $47 million than they should have if they would have used the 2015 baseline.

00:12:45.000 And it's like close to 200 million.

00:12:47.000 So, anyways, my question is: so, we're looking to kind of relaunch this and present this information to our county on Monday.

00:12:55.000 And one of the things we're doing is online, we're building out a website.

00:12:58.000 We're going to have an accountability scorecard as well for every elected official, every candidate in our area.

00:13:04.000 And basically, we want to get them on record publicly and saying, Hey, do you support having an independent audit of our county?

00:13:13.000 And only after doing that will you even think about raising taxes.

00:13:17.000 So, my question is: how do you actually get these officials to respond?

00:13:21.000 And I ironically say this, Jen's the only reason she's not talking to my wife on this right now.

00:13:25.000 She's actually talking to a city council member right now.

00:13:28.000 But we've had a lot of back and forth with people, and they don't really want to commit to anything.

00:13:33.000 So, how do we get them?

00:13:35.000 Randy Fine.

00:13:36.000 Got it.

00:13:38.000 Actually, you know, Randy Fine's going to be, I guess, just confirmed to speak at our event in DC that Anna Polina Luna is running.

00:13:47.000 Well, so, big picture, I think, getting at the heart of it is there is, I think, the flawed assumption that government actually cares about stopping waste.

00:13:56.000 And in a lot of cases, it doesn't.

00:13:58.000 They often are the beneficiaries of higher waste.

00:14:00.000 That can often translate to having more personnel under them, just higher salaries for themselves, higher benefits for themselves.

00:14:07.000 And more to the point, if you're in the government, there's not much of a penalty for having a lot of waste.

00:14:12.000 It's not your money, it's somebody else's money.

00:14:15.000 So, the people you do unfortunately have to get whipped up about it are the people who actually pay the taxes because they're the ones who are harmed by this.

00:14:23.000 And this is one of the big existential problems in America: as you tilt to where the number of people meaningfully paying taxes is less than half the population, you get to a point where there are arguably not enough people who have a stake in anything being run effectively, being run efficiently.

00:14:40.000 So I think you have a good idea with trying to create websites, create more local awareness of the scale of the problem.

00:14:48.000 But in the end, something that has to happen is you basically have to make sure that this is something people will turn out and vote for in local races to change.

00:14:57.000 Yeah.

00:14:59.000 Can you send us your website when it's up, please?

00:15:02.000 Because I will route that.

00:15:04.000 I'll send you the backing.

00:15:05.000 Yeah.

00:15:06.000 I'm going to be honest with you, my dream would be, and again, I don't expect you to do it on the spot, but you guys and TPUSA action, I mean, not money, not people, just an endorsement of, you know what, you guys are doing good work and we're behind you.

00:15:20.000 That would mean the world, if you guys saw it and was legitimate.

00:15:24.000 And I understand the need to vet.

00:15:26.000 Yeah, no, we got to vet it, of course.

00:15:28.000 But I, you know, assuming, I mean, you guys, you guys are members, so you've already have our goodwill.

00:15:34.000 And I want to see it, but I would route it to some officials that we could get to, especially in Florida.

00:15:41.000 We know a lot.

00:15:42.000 Also, we just had Byron Donalds on the show.

00:15:44.000 If he was aware of this, I'm sure he'd be very interested.

00:15:47.000 But to Blake's point, getting popular support, groundswell support in your local community and showing up at the city council meetings demanding accountability as opposed to raising taxes.

00:15:57.000 I mean, this is the problem.

00:15:59.000 You know, you have a Republican district that's acting like a bunch of Democrats.

00:16:04.000 What do Democrats do in California?

00:16:06.000 They tax and they spend and then they want to tax some more.

00:16:10.000 Now they need billionaires' wealth tax, right? 0.97

00:16:12.000 So this is what they do.

00:16:14.000 And instead of fixing the problem underlying, it's not that you have a revenue problem.

00:16:19.000 You have a spending problem.

00:16:20.000 So stop acting like Democrats.

00:16:22.000 Stop taxing us more.

00:16:23.000 We want more.

00:16:24.000 Listen, taxation is essentially theft at some level, right?

00:16:27.000 Especially when it's not being used responsibly.

00:16:32.000 It's certainly morally incumbent upon those elected leaders to use it responsibly.

00:16:36.000 So I'm very motivated to help you.

00:16:38.000 And we need to, you know, sometimes you need to get examples.

00:16:41.000 You need to scalp to basically get your point across.

00:16:44.000 So please send us your website and we'll go from there.

00:16:47.000 But good work.

00:16:48.000 I love how motivated you guys are.

00:16:49.000 This is the type of grassroots, base energy that we need to take our country back.

00:16:54.000 So hat tip to you guys.

00:16:55.000 And, you know, God bless you.

00:16:58.000 And we need to, you know, sometimes you need to get examples.

00:17:00.000 You need to scalp to basically get your point across.

00:17:04.000 So please send us your website and we'll go from there.

00:17:06.000 But good work.

00:17:07.000 I love how motivated you guys are.

00:17:09.000 This is the type of grassroots base energy that we need to take our country back.

00:17:14.000 So hat tip to you guys and God bless you.

00:17:18.000 Can we get to the next question here?

00:17:20.000 It would be Mick.

00:17:21.000 No, I think it's Brandon.

00:17:22.000 Oh, is it Brandon?

00:17:23.000 Brandon, Brandon, please unmute yourself.

00:17:24.000 Welcome to the show.

00:17:26.000 Can everyone hear me?

00:17:26.000 Hey, guys.

00:17:27.000 Yes, of course.

00:17:29.000 So my question is, how do we, you know, balance what it tells us in scripture to obey the authority we live in with fighting unjust laws?

00:17:44.000 There's so many ways that you can unpack that question.

00:17:47.000 The thing is, the powers that be are ordained by God.

00:17:52.000 That's Romans chapter 13.

00:17:53.000 Surrender unto Caesar.

00:17:54.000 That's right.

00:17:55.000 But the problem with Caesar is Caesar wants too much, right?

00:17:58.000 Caesar wants to continue to take from us.

00:18:01.000 When you look at the Old Testament, you see the Hebrew boys who were thrown into a fiery furnace because they resisted what the king wanted.

00:18:11.000 You see Daniel thrown in the lion's den because he resisted what the king wanted.

00:18:15.000 You see David fighting Goliath.

00:18:17.000 Why?

00:18:17.000 Because he resisted what Goliath was saying about the people of God.

00:18:22.000 And so there lies a point, all right, where if the laws are unjust, i.e. we are being forced to do things that are against our biblical worldview, we shouldn't succumb to those laws.

00:18:38.000 We shouldn't do it, all right?

00:18:40.000 We shouldn't adhere to it.

00:18:41.000 Hats off to the mighty men of God who during the pandemic were told to close their churches.

00:18:47.000 But instead of closing their churches, they kept their churches open.

00:18:51.000 Now, many of them received fines.

00:18:53.000 I'm sure the McCoy's know something about that. 0.95

00:18:55.000 I know what I mean.

00:18:56.000 You know, fines, and they were pilloried and bludgeoned because of their belief system, but yet instead they kept their churches open.

00:19:04.000 What we're seeing right now is that the churches that resisted during the pandemic, those churches are thriving.

00:19:09.000 And the churches that closed down, many of them are still shuttered.

00:19:13.000 And so, yes, there is a point where we have to disagree and disobey the laws of the land if they go against scripture and what God has called us to do.

00:19:24.000 We should do that dutifully, but we should also do it winsomely, not with the intent to create disorder or chaos, but we cannot support laws that go against our biblical worldview.

00:19:38.000 Yeah, which is why I brought up the example from Acts, right?

00:19:41.000 Sure.

00:19:42.000 Where they were being told you can't spread the gospel.

00:19:43.000 You can't preach the gospel.

00:19:44.000 And they said, sorry, that's our mandate.

00:19:46.000 We have to do it.

00:19:46.000 We have to go against the authority of the land.

00:19:49.000 I would also add that specifically here in America, and Charlie used to talk about this all the time, that honoring those in authority is different in our country.

00:19:58.000 And I was at dinner at the Cedras last night, and they were like shocked.

00:20:02.000 I was going through the Constitution.

00:20:03.000 They're like, we love this article.

00:20:05.000 We love this declaration.

00:20:07.000 It's just the most powerful document.

00:20:09.000 But having free speech, having the Second Amendment, having all these things, the authority in our country is the people.

00:20:15.000 And so when you're called to honor those in authority, when there's unjust rules, specifically the example of COVID-19, when they're shuttering the doors, but strip clubs were allowed to be open.

00:20:26.000 When they're forcing pastors not to have counseling sessions with their congregants, but marijuana dispensaries were open.

00:20:26.000 That's right.

00:20:34.000 And so you have to ask yourself, you know, here in America, we the people are the authority.

00:20:39.000 But then even greater than that, you guys talked about, you know, in Matthew, where Christ talks about rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

00:20:46.000 He says, hold up the denarius.

00:20:48.000 And so they hold up denarius.

00:20:49.000 He says, whose face is on that?

00:20:50.000 He says, okay, so render unto Caesar's, what is Caesar's, and to God, what is God's.

00:20:50.000 It's Caesar.

00:20:55.000 But now in modern day society, specifically America and in the West, we've rendered unto Caesar what is God's.

00:21:04.000 Marriage is God's. 0.86

00:21:05.000 That's right.

00:21:06.000 The right to life is God's.

00:21:08.000 And yet we have this notion in our head that that belongs to the government.

00:21:13.000 That belongs to Caesar's.

00:21:15.000 You know, that's a political issue.

00:21:18.000 That's a political issue.

00:21:18.000 I can't touch that.

00:21:19.000 I don't want to talk about that.

00:21:20.000 That's right.

00:21:21.000 But no, no, it's not.

00:21:22.000 It's not a political issue.

00:21:24.000 You guys are, you're lost.

00:21:25.000 You're confused about that.

00:21:27.000 It's actually a biblical issue.

00:21:29.000 You've rendered unto Caesar what is God's. 0.69

00:21:31.000 That's it.

00:21:31.000 That's right.

00:21:32.000 Well, and this is the Declaration of Independence.

00:21:34.000 We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:21:46.000 And that's the beauty of the country.

00:21:48.000 I completely agree.

00:21:49.000 I literally was typing in, we the people are the sovereign.

00:21:51.000 We are the sovereign from which the consent, we allow the government to rule and govern by our consent because we are the sovereign.

00:22:01.000 And the Declaration of Independence is a love letter to humanity and to God because God gives us those rights.

00:22:10.000 A government cannot take those from us because they come divinely from the Creator.

00:22:16.000 That's right.

00:22:16.000 Acts chapter 4, verse 29 says, And now, Lord, behold their threatenings and grant unto thy servants that with all boldness they may speak thy word.

00:22:25.000 Verse 31 says, And when they had prayed, the place was shaken.

00:22:28.000 They were assembled together and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost and they spake the word of God with boldness.

00:22:33.000 That word boldness in the Greek gives you the word parhesia, which means the unreservedness of utterance.

00:22:39.000 It also means freedom of speech.

00:22:41.000 Boldness is freedom of speech.

00:22:44.000 And so when the preacher preaches the whole council of God from Genesis to Revelation, that's freedom of speech.

00:22:50.000 When he holds back truth, it's not freedom of speech.

00:22:53.000 And so we see pastors all around our country withholding freedom of speech because they fear government.

00:23:02.000 Before he ever stepped behind a microphone, Charlie understood something important.

00:23:06.000 Leadership begins with learning.

00:23:08.000 He didn't chase a diploma or a title.

00:23:10.000 He chased truth.

00:23:12.000 Through Hillsdale College's free online courses, he studied the great works of the classics, the principles of the American founding, and the life-changing truths of the Bible.

00:23:20.000 Those ideas didn't just inform him, they shaped his character, strengthened his convictions, and prepared him for the challenges ahead.

00:23:27.000 One of the courses he took was the Genesis story, taught by Hillsdale professor Dr. Justin Jackson.

00:23:32.000 This free online course explores the relationship between God and man, what happens when that relationship is broken, and the path toward reconciliation.

00:23:40.000 It's a real college course, rigorous, thoughtful, and accessible to anyone willing to learn.

00:23:46.000 You can take the very same course completely free, grow stronger in your faith, gain clarity about humanity and your place in the world, prepare yourself for a life with courage and conviction.

00:23:56.000 Visit charlieforhillsdale.com to enroll today.

00:24:00.000 That's charlieforhillsdale.com.

00:24:02.000 Learn deeply, lead boldly, carry it forward.

00:24:08.000 Let's go to the next question, I believe.

00:24:10.000 Yeah, Nick, unmute yourself and what's your question?

00:24:12.000 Hey, good morning, fellas.

00:24:14.000 It's still 10 o'clock over here, but my question: Mikey, you mentioned earlier the normalization of these crazy things like transing the kids and you know, nonsense like that. 0.99

00:24:26.000 And one of the things that we've unfortunately seen normalized is violence against conservatives and Christians, whether that's as far as trying to assassinate the president or, you know, unfortunately successfully assassinating Charlie Kirk, down to you know, just people getting assaulted.

00:24:42.000 Like I was assaulted during the first Trump administration when I was in school.

00:24:46.000 There was a video going around Twitter a couple weeks ago of this big kid just sucker punching this kid who had a support ice sign.

00:24:55.000 And so, with that, how do we effectively fight that culture of violence is okay against conservatives while maintaining our biblical values?

00:25:08.000 Yeah, it's like it, yeah, it's like when, for example, you brought up the COVID example.

00:25:15.000 When the government tells you not to do something and you know that it's a God-given right to do the opposite, you stand in boldness to do it, whether or not you will be attacked or whether or not you go to jail.

00:25:26.000 And it's because you are fighting for something bigger, something greater than yourself, specifically when it comes to the values of truth that we hold.

00:25:35.000 And so, if the left is threatening violence against you, you know that you have a duty to stand up for that truth, to stand up for your values, regardless of if you're going to be attacked or not.

00:25:47.000 And unfortunately, the trajectory of the left, especially when it comes to violence here in America, is they're becoming increasingly successful, not just in them assassinating our people, but also when it comes to the assassins, possibly in the case of Luigi Mangioni, the left mobilizing to make him this like hero.

00:26:09.000 He's a folk hero.

00:26:10.000 He's a folk hero.

00:26:11.000 So every time there's a hearing at the courthouse, there's a bunch of leftist protesters that want to see Luigi Mangioni walk free for killing a man in cold blood, for assassinating a man for no other reason than he did not like the healthcare system that he was in charge of.

00:26:27.000 And it's very dark because this can succeed.

00:26:29.000 It has succeeded in the past where movements that love violence and embrace violence and promote it have successfully gotten killers get away with things.

00:26:39.000 They've gotten them very lenient sentences.

00:26:41.000 You can see this, if you want an ominous example, this happened regularly in Russia before they had the Bolshevik Revolution.

00:26:48.000 Constant culture of assassinations and people who would get off quite lightly in many cases for involvement in those.

00:26:55.000 And so how do we fight it?

00:26:57.000 Well, I would say politically, a very important step in areas where we have power, for example, in red states right now, and for that matter in the federal government, you need to take a position of maximum hostility to politically driven violence.

00:27:10.000 Of course.

00:27:11.000 And that can involve, obviously, prosecuting everyone you can, but also you have to lay down the law a bit.

00:27:18.000 If your organization is clearly engineering riots, we're going to say, like, yeah, we should probably change RICO and make sure RICO is capable of prosecuting organizations like that.

00:27:31.000 You can't take a casual attitude.

00:27:33.000 And so, for example, if you have these riots that happen on a campus to try to shut down a turning point speaker, as happened to Charlie many times, you have to actually say, this is a much bigger deal than we've acted like it is in the past.

00:27:46.000 This is an attempt to destroy freedom of speech and to violently intimidate someone against doing something.

00:27:51.000 Bam, you were trying to strip someone of their civil rights. 1.00

00:27:53.000 We're going to throw you in prison for a decade.

00:27:55.000 Thank you.

00:27:55.000 Come again.

00:27:56.000 Oh, go ahead, Mike.

00:27:58.000 I was just going to say, call it out where you see it, too.

00:27:59.000 Like, President Trump did such a great job at the State of the Union when literally the Democrats are not standing up for Irina Zarutska, violently murdered.

00:28:10.000 They didn't stand up when he said, we got to stand up against political violence either.

00:28:13.000 They didn't care.

00:28:14.000 They didn't care.

00:28:15.000 These people hate you.

00:28:17.000 They hate you.

00:28:17.000 And here's what I would say, too.

00:28:19.000 Just I'm thinking about Charlie.

00:28:20.000 You know, Charlie was aware of the threats against him.

00:28:23.000 He was.

00:28:24.000 It's something he talked about on the show.

00:28:25.000 I've seen the clips circulating online a lot.

00:28:28.000 And, you know, I'm reminded of scripture.

00:28:30.000 Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.

00:28:33.000 Rather, fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

00:28:36.000 You know, there's a lot of people that believe in God.

00:28:39.000 There's very few that fear him.

00:28:41.000 And so as we contemplate all of these questions, these deep, troubling, profound questions, ask yourself, do you just believe in God or do you fear him?

00:28:52.000 And Charlie feared God.

00:28:53.000 Charlie did everything because he feared God.

00:28:56.000 I endeavor to be a man that fears God and doesn't fear man.

00:29:00.000 And last thing I will say, and then I want to hear from Pastor John, We have a spiritual rot in this country.

00:29:09.000 And there's a whole political party that has basically removed God from their platform.

00:29:15.000 They've denied his edicts and his instructions and his commands.

00:29:20.000 And so what we really need is we need revival.

00:29:22.000 Now, the left's going to call Christian nationalism and do all those smear jobs.

00:29:26.000 We need revival.

00:29:27.000 And that ultimately is the only thing that's going to give enough people enough courage to face it.

00:29:33.000 Consider the climate of where the early church was after the killing, the open killing of Jesus.

00:29:43.000 John, I believe it's 20, verse 19 says, Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut, where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst and said unto them, peace be unto you.

00:29:57.000 This is after Jesus was killed, and the disciples are now in the upper room.

00:30:02.000 They're hiding out, afraid, terrified for their lives.

00:30:05.000 We don't want to go beyond these walls because they may kill us as well, because we just watched them kill our Savior.

00:30:12.000 Charlie believed that to live is Christ, but to die is gain.

00:30:16.000 Amen.

00:30:17.000 There's a difference.

00:30:18.000 There's a mentality that's required to do kingdom work.

00:30:23.000 You know, most people don't really know what that place looks like spiritually and mentally, but you have to become desensitized to the threats.

00:30:34.000 The threats are intended to quiet you, to stymon you, to keep you from speaking up.

00:30:41.000 The threats are supposed to cause you to neuter your voice, censor yourself, self-censorship, right?

00:30:47.000 All of these things are intentional.

00:30:49.000 It's a plan to keep a person from doing what they know is just, right, and good.

00:30:55.000 But Jesus spoke to his disciples and told them, peace be unto you.

00:31:00.000 And then he goes on to show them proof that he existed.

00:31:04.000 And then ultimately, he gives them, you know, the initial down payment of the Holy Spirit.

00:31:10.000 He breathes on them and gives them the power to go beyond their fears.

00:31:16.000 And so the movement within Turning Point USA will thrive.

00:31:19.000 It will continue to grow.

00:31:21.000 So as long as we move beyond the fear, the threat of retribution, what could happen?

00:31:28.000 I'll tell you what's going to happen.

00:31:30.000 We're all going to die one day. 0.84

00:31:32.000 That's what's going to happen.

00:31:34.000 That is a constant.

00:31:35.000 It's not a variable.

00:31:37.000 At some point, at some time, it will happen.

00:31:40.000 We all have a death sentence.

00:31:42.000 That's it.

00:31:42.000 And so the thing is, we want to fall forward while dying and die with our boots on.

00:31:48.000 We don't want to rust out.

00:31:51.000 We want to wear out.

00:31:52.000 There's a difference.

00:31:53.000 There are some people who will choose to rust out.

00:31:56.000 I'm not going to fight.

00:31:56.000 I'm not going to contend because of the threat.

00:31:59.000 Okay.

00:32:00.000 But I just told you earlier that boldness means freedom of speech.

00:32:03.000 We have to get back to that secure place of biblical boldness where we speak knowing that the threat is coming because it may come, but we cannot die an hour or a second or a minute before God wills it to be.

00:32:20.000 Yes.

00:32:22.000 No man can erase that.

00:32:23.000 No man can stop that.

00:32:25.000 And so we speak knowing that Christ will protect us.

00:32:29.000 Well, we know that the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church.

00:32:33.000 Indeed.

00:32:34.000 And so what, and I say this and I'll say it again: what man endeavors to stop, God has already unleashed it.

00:32:43.000 Man can't stop.

00:32:44.000 And so that's, we rest in that peace.

00:32:48.000 Because, yes.

00:32:48.000 We have to.

00:32:50.000 And by the way, the revival is already unleashing.

00:32:53.000 It is.

00:32:54.000 And the pews, young people, especially are going back to church and they're going back to the full gospel church.

00:33:00.000 They're not going back to weak churches.

00:33:02.000 Well, to your point, I mean, it's right behind you, Andrew.

00:33:05.000 Sinners in the hands of an angry God.

00:33:07.000 That's the sermon.

00:33:07.000 That's right.

00:33:08.000 For those of you who have not read that sermon, today, go read that sermon.

00:33:12.000 And that is what the gospel used to speak.

00:33:14.000 Did you know during that sermon, literally during that sermon, there would be people bawling their eyes out out of fear of God that they would have to pull them out of the congregation because they're a distraction from the sermon, Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.

00:33:29.000 Today, when congregants are leaving the church during a sermon, it's because they were offended.

00:33:37.000 Not because of fear of God.

00:33:38.000 Not because they're crying out of fear of God.

00:33:40.000 So it's shifted.

00:33:42.000 It's shifted.

00:33:42.000 Yes.

00:33:43.000 And so this idea of fear that you might be attacked or killed by the left for speaking truth, it's actually a gain.

00:33:53.000 To die is a gain.

00:33:53.000 It is.

00:33:54.000 All of this is gain.

00:33:55.000 That's right.

00:33:56.000 And so the gospel has changed.

00:33:58.000 I want to be found doing the work that God called me to do when it is my time to go home.

00:34:03.000 That's right.

00:34:03.000 I do not want to be found on a golf course drinking on a Thursday morning.

00:34:08.000 That's right.

00:34:09.000 Right?

00:34:09.000 Like that, that is not our goal in life.

00:34:12.000 It's the opposite.

00:34:13.000 And I think you did like the rust for, I love it.

00:34:16.000 Like, it's just so powerful.

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00:35:19.000 We have a question here from Liz.

00:35:22.000 We lost Liz, but we wanted to get to her question.

00:35:25.000 She says, I live in Calvert County, Maryland.

00:35:27.000 My question is: Did TPUSA try to open up a group in one of the public schools, but was shut down because someone called the police?

00:35:33.000 I am trying to get to the truth so I can go to our commissioners.

00:35:37.000 Yes, so this is a story that happened about a week ago.

00:35:40.000 It happened at Northern High School in Calvert County.

00:35:43.000 I believe it's in specifically the town of Owings.

00:35:47.000 So it's maybe about, looks like about an hour south of Baltimore or so.

00:35:51.000 This is a Republican-leaning county.

00:35:54.000 But there was a Club America meeting at this high school, and some woman, we don't know her full name. 0.92

00:36:00.000 It appears her name was Nancy, but hopefully, I don't think it's my mom.

00:36:05.000 So we'll hope that one.

00:36:07.000 But anyway, this woman, Unhinged Woman, saw this event and said that they were trying to influence children in a negative way. 0.93

00:36:13.000 So basically, she announced that she was calling child protective services over this event.

00:36:20.000 Based on local news reports, it does not appear that the authorities took this terribly seriously.

00:36:25.000 They were called, but police did not shut down this event.

00:36:28.000 I think they probably had a good eye roll at this.

00:36:31.000 So this is a good example of how deranged people will get.

00:36:34.000 But my understanding is the authorities did not run with this report from an unhinged observer.

00:36:40.000 All right, so next question.

00:36:41.000 Anthony is next.

00:36:42.000 Sports Anthony is back. 0.99

00:36:44.000 Unmute yourself and shoot. 1.00

00:36:44.000 All right. 1.00

00:36:46.000 Welcome back.

00:36:47.000 Hi, guys.

00:36:47.000 Okay.

00:36:49.000 Well, actually, I want to, before I get to my question, I'm going to piggyback off what you guys just finished.

00:36:53.000 Have you paid attention to what's going on in Baldwin'sville, New York with the high school and a teacher who tried to help the students start a TPUSA team?

00:36:59.000 Yes.

00:37:00.000 Yeah, we're very well aware of it, and we can't really comment on it yet because it's legal maneuvering happening.

00:37:07.000 Yeah, so, all right, so my question is this: so, we had the State of the Union.

00:37:10.000 We see all the Republicans on their side of the room stand up for everything, clap for all the good stuff that we all like.

00:37:18.000 But what is what Republicans and the GOP like not working together when they go back to their separate houses and not trying to pass the things that we, the people, want that we put them in charge of, like, you know, Save Act for one.

00:37:32.000 And why do GOP members, not just at federal level, but at every level, seem to have this infighting with each other?

00:37:40.000 Why can't they ever unite?

00:37:44.000 Go ahead.

00:37:44.000 I don't know what this one is.

00:37:46.000 You could answer that one too.

00:37:48.000 How long ago?

00:37:49.000 Charlie wouldn't need to do his life's work if it was that easy.

00:37:53.000 So, I mean, I will give you an example: the SAVE Act.

00:37:55.000 I've been talking with a bunch of different senators about this, and right now, you know, they're all publicly saying they want this done.

00:38:03.000 The problem is, is there's parliamentary tactics that are involved, different schools of thought about how to address the parliamentary tactics.

00:38:10.000 You also have to ask the question: you know, can you get 250?

00:38:14.000 Right now, it looks like we're at 49 because Tillis is out, and Lisa Murkowski is out, and Mitch McConnell's out.

00:38:21.000 So fundamentally, at some sort of lower threshold level, you're talking about a hardwiring of the conservative mind.

00:38:29.000 We're just like a rowdy bunch, and we're more independent thinkers.

00:38:31.000 We're not as collectivist.

00:38:33.000 We're not as high-minded as the left.

00:38:35.000 But really, there's, you know, in the instance of Tom Tillis with President Trump, there's a feud.

00:38:41.000 You know, President Trump didn't like him.

00:38:43.000 It became a public feud.

00:38:44.000 Now Tom Tillis is going to make it his, you know, lasting legacy to just be a thorn in his side.

00:38:48.000 I don't know why that is.

00:38:49.000 I don't know why Tom Tillis wants to go out like that.

00:38:52.000 You'd have to ask him.

00:38:54.000 He's not going to come on this show.

00:38:55.000 I've invited him.

00:38:56.000 And so, you know, there's deeper questions, right?

00:38:59.000 Lisa Murkowski, we got her because of ranked choice voting, which is a total scourge in Alaska. 0.99

00:39:05.000 Mitch McConnell's on his way out, but he's been a pain in the butt for years, okay? 0.98

00:39:09.000 So, you know, these are issues. 0.98

00:39:12.000 Rand Paul is very unpredictable out of Kentucky.

00:39:15.000 By the way, Nate Morris for senator to take over for Mitch McConnell.

00:39:20.000 We've got to get him over the finish line.

00:39:22.000 He's surging in the polls.

00:39:23.000 So Nate Morris, support that guy.

00:39:25.000 So we need better representatives, people that are as conservative as the voters.

00:39:29.000 I mean, this is what Charlie spent so much of his time doing.

00:39:32.000 It's why Charlie endorsed Nate Morris, by the way, and Andy Biggs in Arizona.

00:39:36.000 Because we need better representation.

00:39:39.000 And a lot of these good old boy networks defend their own.

00:39:41.000 The NRSC has problems.

00:39:43.000 It goes on and on and on.

00:39:45.000 So I mean, if anybody else wants to jump in, please, please do.

00:39:49.000 Well, speaking of Tom Tillis, that's my senator.

00:39:52.000 It's sad.

00:39:53.000 It's a travesty.

00:39:54.000 We've always known that in North Carolina.

00:39:57.000 Oftentimes, when special interests get involved in dark money, people begin to change.

00:40:02.000 But I do want to show you all that I know this is an anomaly.

00:40:06.000 I'm a black man in America with an ID.

00:40:08.000 I just wanted you all to see this.

00:40:12.000 Did you get this on the black market?

00:40:12.000 It's a rarity.

00:40:14.000 No, I didn't get it on the black market.

00:40:16.000 I still like it.

00:40:17.000 I verify it.

00:40:21.000 Did he get it in New York and it says like no name for driver?

00:40:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:40:24.000 No.

00:40:25.000 He got it in North Carolina.

00:40:26.000 Is this a CDL?

00:40:27.000 Are you an illegal immigrant?

00:40:29.000 Nope, nope.

00:40:30.000 I don't drive DT Williams.

00:40:31.000 You know, I will tell you on the special interest, on the special interest thing, so I went to this Capitol Hill club for the first time, and I went with Andy Ogles.

00:40:41.000 The team there, they wanted me to see it kind of as like a show you where the sausage is made really.

00:40:47.000 And it's this club where all these Republicans, this is where the Republicans hang out.

00:40:51.000 You got to pay all this money to be a member.

00:40:53.000 And then you go there and you have these like kind of like whatever dinner.

00:40:56.000 They're not even that great.

00:40:57.000 And it's not even that pretty inside.

00:40:58.000 But this is like the exclusive place where you meet with lobbyists and donors and stuff like this.

00:41:03.000 And I literally, I made the comment.

00:41:05.000 I was like, my skin is crawling.

00:41:07.000 And they were like, oh, yeah, it's a spiritually dark place.

00:41:10.000 So you wonder kind of some of the deals and the maneuverings that are going on behind the scenes.

00:41:14.000 This Capitol Hill Club is probably, you know, ground zero for a lot of that stuff.

00:41:19.000 All right.

00:41:20.000 I want to get to a couple more questions.

00:41:21.000 Anthony, is that all right?

00:41:23.000 Get your question.

00:41:23.000 No, that's perfectly fine.

00:41:26.000 We've got one minute left.

00:41:27.000 Yeah, Elise.

00:41:28.000 So you're good.

00:41:29.000 Elish Elishava.

00:41:32.000 How do I say that? 0.54

00:41:33.000 Well, unmute yourself, Elishava, and let us know if we got your name right and shoot it quick. 1.00

00:41:37.000 And we'll give you 60 seconds.

00:41:38.000 All right.

00:41:39.000 Can you guys hear me?

00:41:40.000 Yes.

00:41:41.000 Yeah.

00:41:41.000 Awesome.

00:41:41.000 Yeah.

00:41:42.000 So it's Elise Shava.

00:41:44.000 Excellent.

00:41:45.000 Yeah.

00:41:46.000 So we're from Canada.

00:41:48.000 This is my sister and I here.

00:41:49.000 And our question is: so, what do you guys think of?

00:41:54.000 I know you talked about MAID earlier in the episode, but what is your opinion of our current prime minister right now, Mark Carney?

00:42:03.000 And then also, second follow-up to that question.

00:42:07.000 I'm curious, we are starting a youth political activism organization up here.

00:42:11.000 And would you have any advice for us when it comes to making youth more conservative and helping young Canadians love their country?

00:42:20.000 All right.

00:42:21.000 Speed round. 0.97

00:42:22.000 First of all, Mark Carney is a creepy globalist lizard. 0.88

00:42:24.000 He's very smart. 0.97

00:42:25.000 He's clearly very smart.

00:42:26.000 He's really very capable.

00:42:28.000 And that's frustrating because he's very hostile to us.

00:42:31.000 He is, but he's talented.

00:42:34.000 We should not downplay him because we shouldn't underestimate him for creating an organization in Canada.

00:42:40.000 Fearlessness is going to be the number one thing you need because your country doesn't have proper freedom of speech.

00:42:46.000 It doesn't, it really is all in on the woke stuff that's been receding in America.

00:42:51.000 So you're going to need a huge amount of fearlessness.

00:42:52.000 Social media, social media.

00:42:53.000 Social media endlessly.

00:42:55.000 Fight where the people are.

00:42:56.000 And that's going to be TikTok.

00:42:57.000 That's going to be X. That's going to be Instagram.

00:42:59.000 Go where people are and engage.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 02, 2026

AMA: Ask Us Anything 255: State of the Church? Normalization of Political Violence? Scripture vs. the Law?

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