The Charlie Kirk Show - America Becomes the Third World, While The Third World Beats Us

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00:00:02.000 What is El Salvador doing right? 1.00

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00:03:00.000 Joining us now is a great American patriot, one of the few in Washington, D.C., in the kingdom of Washington, D.C.

00:03:06.000 It's Matt Gaetz, Congressman Matt Gates, who's a terrific American.

00:03:10.000 Matt, I want to get your thoughts here on the vice presidential selection.

00:03:15.000 We got Bergham, Marco, Vance, Tim Scott, that is in the final four based on all public and private conversations.

00:03:21.000 Matt Gates, what are you thinking about for the vice presidential selection?

00:03:25.000 I'll start by suggesting that I don't think it's just down to that four.

00:03:29.000 I actually think there's some wildcard picks that are still out there and reverberating in the mind of President Trump.

00:03:35.000 President Trump's going to make this pick, but let me argue on behalf of the senators on that list.

00:03:40.000 And, you know, I know Senator Vance and Senator Rubio, the best of that group, and they would be at the top of my list.

00:03:46.000 But when we get into the White House and get control of the Senate, having a vice president who understands the procedure and rules of the Senate, who is able to preside over the Senate and seize the Senate calendar is going to be critical to getting President Trump's appointees actually confirmed and in office and doing work.

00:04:05.000 Like, remember, we have four years to do this, okay?

00:04:08.000 We don't have a forever schedule to get everybody confirmed.

00:04:12.000 And so we will need a vice president who can preside over the Senate, who can set the Senate calendar.

00:04:17.000 And look, there are going to be some of these three-letter agencies, Charlie, where we might need to make recess appointments.

00:04:22.000 And so having a vice president who's playing ball, who's got that in their hand, it is going to be the difference between getting people at DOJ, FBI, CIA, NSA that will execute our mission versus those who will work to undermine President Trump, as we've seen in the past.

00:04:37.000 It's like the 100 first senator, right?

00:04:38.000 Is basically what the VP is.

00:04:40.000 Technically, I mean, constitutionally, they are one of the only offices.

00:04:43.000 What did Dick Cheney call it?

00:04:44.000 The unitary executive theory, where you both have, you have, you preside over legislative and executive.

00:04:51.000 It's one of the only hybrid roles the founding fathers put into our constitution.

00:04:54.000 So JD Vance, what do you think of him?

00:04:56.000 He's definitely my favorite.

00:04:59.000 I have spent a lot of time with J.D. when he was in his primary against Josh Mandel.

00:05:03.000 We did a tour across all of Ohio together.

00:05:05.000 And what I really came to admire is that JD is a great listener and he would take feedback that he received from a crowd in the morning and he was weaving it into his ideas and his presentation later that afternoon and into the evening.

00:05:19.000 He is also a brilliant man.

00:05:22.000 And people say that about politicians all the time, but the reality is we probably have a lower average IQ than a person walking down Main Street.

00:05:29.000 And J.D. is legitimately a genius and someone who I think President Trump sinks with because they're both so intellectually engaged in everything that's going on.

00:05:39.000 And let's not forget the most important thing.

00:05:41.000 You have to have a vice president who could be president.

00:05:44.000 In the event that that would have to be the constitutional role that they would fulfill, JD Vance could serve as president of the United States and thus would be a fully qualified pick for vice president. 0.95

00:05:54.000 But as great a guy as I'm sure Doug Bergham is, and I bet there'll probably be a spot in the cabinet for him somewhere.

00:06:00.000 I worry about someone like Doug Bergham being thrown into the lion's den that is the United States Senate, not knowing the procedures like the back of his hand, not able to really guide that institution to the execution of President Trump's agenda and the approval of his nominees.

00:06:17.000 I think that's great.

00:06:18.000 And I totally agree that having the Senate wrinkle is so incredibly important.

00:06:24.000 You also recently went down to El Salvador with Bukele.

00:06:29.000 Tell us about it. 0.91

00:06:30.000 Yeah, it was great to leave like the third world mess that the United States is descending into and go to a place like El Salvador where they're actually changing the country with conservative populist ideas that put order and security first. 0.59

00:06:43.000 President Bukele has been able to drag that country out of a mire pile.

00:06:48.000 And now they are the safest country in the Western hemisphere.

00:06:50.000 They've reduced the murder rate by 97%.

00:06:53.000 18% of the GDP in El Salvador right now is construction.

00:06:57.000 So that country is going to be like the Singapore of the Western Hemisphere through this type of populist, conservative, and I just think sensible policy.

00:07:06.000 And there was a moment when I was with President Bukele, Charlie, recently, where one of the Democrats on the delegation trip said to him, well, you know, Mr. President, you've achieved security now.

00:07:16.000 So you need to really move past that.

00:07:18.000 You need to stop going after the gangbangers and the bandits.

00:07:22.000 And you need to really worry about other things.

00:07:24.000 And I'll never forget what President Bukele said.

00:07:26.000 He looked at that Democrat and said, he who spares the wolf forsakes the sheep.

00:07:33.000 Bukele is going after the thugs and criminals. 0.59

00:07:36.000 He has thrown 70,000 people in prison in El Salvador so that the other 6 million people could be free and prosperous and ascendant.

00:07:46.000 And I'm not an isolationist.

00:07:47.000 You and I talk about foreign policy a lot.

00:07:49.000 I just think we should care about our neighborhood more.

00:07:52.000 I think that what happens in El Salvador and in Mexico and in Latin America impacts quality of life for Americans far more than which dude in a sweatsuit gets to run crisis.

00:08:03.000 It's so interesting because he won a couple years ago and was super chill for like the first year.

00:08:09.000 He didn't do anything that dramatic.

00:08:12.000 And then he very quietly started to make the connections in the police force.

00:08:17.000 And then like overnight, he just flipped a switch and just started raiding entire parts of the country.

00:08:23.000 And that's such an interesting thing.

00:08:24.000 He didn't just like take office and do this.

00:08:26.000 He understood what he was in office because look, almost everybody in El Salvador was bought by the cartels or cartel-affiliated gang members.

00:08:34.000 Everybody.

00:08:34.000 So there's a young guy, whatever.

00:08:37.000 He's this.

00:08:38.000 And then he just is like, yeah, we're not going to put up with it.

00:08:39.000 We're going to go arrest math swaths of people.

00:08:42.000 El Salvador is now the safest city, a safest country in Central America, one of the safest now on the planet. 0.81

00:08:51.000 So why is it that American streets are more dangerous than ever, but we look to the third world for safety and for prosperity?

00:08:59.000 Sometimes our toughest challenges have the simplest solutions.

00:09:04.000 If your communities are being overrun by gangs, you just arrest the gang members and lock them up.

00:09:09.000 But instead, in the United States, we have this perverse theory of having a struggle session with the people who are repeat violent criminals who are making life impossible in a lot of the blue jurisdictions in the United States of America.

00:09:23.000 And what people in New York and in LA and in Chicago are learning is that if you don't have security, there is no prosperity.

00:09:32.000 If you can't let your loved ones walk down the street and engage in commerce and enjoy life, you already are a prisoner.

00:09:38.000 You're already living the pod life.

00:09:40.000 You're a prisoner in your own home, in your own community.

00:09:43.000 And, you know, we believe in the human existence.

00:09:46.000 We want humans to thrive.

00:09:48.000 And so to do that, it's the baseline meeting of people's needs of just being able to live your life that I think is so important.

00:09:55.000 And I also heard from President Bukele sharp criticisms of the U.S. State Department because you know what, when the Russians and when the Chinese are messing around in Latin America, they're worried about their interests.

00:10:07.000 Where can they mine materials?

00:10:08.000 Where can they get lumber?

00:10:10.000 You know what we do?

00:10:11.000 We go down there and criticize Bukele or the president of Paraguay because like they don't have the right LGBTQ policy or gender policy.

00:10:20.000 I went into a karaoke nightclub just to get like a little sense of El Salvador.

00:10:25.000 And everywhere in the place, it was happy Father's Day.

00:10:29.000 And I asked the proprietor, I said, do you celebrate Father's Day on a different day in El Salvador?

00:10:34.000 And he said, oh, no, we celebrate fathers the entire month of June.

00:10:39.000 And I had to say, well, in the United States, we do something a little different in June. 0.66

00:10:42.000 Did you see any gay flags in El Salvador?

00:10:46.000 I did not.

00:10:47.000 I just saw like celebration of family on Sunday.

00:10:50.000 People were in the streets with their flowers.

00:10:52.000 They were lighting candles to their saints in worship and in reverence.

00:10:56.000 And then I look at what we're doing in June and I'm having to like deal with whether or not the Air Force base in my district is going to have some sort of drag queen story hour or some other odd circumstance. 0.97

00:11:09.000 El Salvador, which, you know, we always make fun of the third world.

00:11:13.000 They have safe streets, no gay groomers twerking in kids' faces, and they pray on Sunday.

00:11:19.000 That sounds like a great country. 0.70

00:11:21.000 It really is, Charlie.

00:11:22.000 It really is.

00:11:23.000 We need to get President Bukele to one of our great turning points so that he can inspire young people that there is a better way.

00:11:30.000 Like oftentimes when you and I have these interviews, we browbeat each other, we browbeat our own party, and we sit here and think, how do we get out of this?

00:11:38.000 And to come from a place like El Salvador, where just five years ago, no person would even consider walking the streets to now seeing a place that is flourishing.

00:11:46.000 It actually gives me hope that the American people, we have the right values.

00:11:50.000 We have the right culture.

00:11:52.000 We have the right direction.

00:11:53.000 It's just that our leaders are so captured by the corruption that we allow our life to be diminished.

00:11:59.000 And it does not have to be that way.

00:12:00.000 Matt Gates, thank you so much.

00:12:02.000 Excellent work.

00:12:03.000 Really appreciate it.

00:12:04.000 And we'll have you on soon.

00:12:05.000 And maybe we should be more like El Salvador.

00:12:06.000 In Detroit.

00:12:07.000 Huh?

00:12:08.000 Dude, Detroit.

00:12:09.000 I'm going to see everybody in Detroit.

00:12:10.000 I cannot wait for our great convention.

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00:12:14.000 Thanks so much, Matt Gates.

00:12:16.000 By the way, I was talking to a young lady the other day on a podcast I did with George Janko.

00:12:20.000 He does it with his fiancé.

00:12:21.000 She says, Yeah, you know, when I live in LA, my mom and I know you do not leave the home after 9 p.m.

00:12:26.000 We're prisoners in our own home.

00:12:28.000 Do we live in a free country still?

00:12:30.000 El Salvador has stuff we don't have. 1.00

00:12:31.000 No gay pride parades.

00:12:33.000 People go to church, safe streets.

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00:13:53.000 There seems to be the rumblings of populist revolt all across the Western world.

00:13:59.000 And, you know, we talk about El Salvador.

00:14:01.000 This is a very important thing.

00:14:03.000 We might be the wealthiest country on earth, but if you can't leave your home at night in LA, Portland, Seattle, Seattle, San Francisco, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, D.C., Atlanta, are we really the greatest country still in the world?

00:14:17.000 We can get back to that. 0.88

00:14:19.000 You see, Bukele understood this in El Salvador.

00:14:23.000 And it's so amazing. 1.00

00:14:24.000 There's this article where the State Department was saying that El Salvador is a threat to democracy.

00:14:32.000 When they say that, it means that you might run a country in a certain way where crime goes down and family formation goes up.

00:14:42.000 If you can't take your kid to a little league game, if you can't get a hospital room or talk in your native language to get simple services, are you still a free country?

00:14:54.000 This is exactly what's on the ballot here in the entire Western world.

00:14:58.000 And the trend is positive.

00:15:00.000 Geert Wilders forms a government in the Netherlands.

00:15:03.000 No one ever would have thought that was possible.

00:15:05.000 Way more unlikely than any Donald Trump political prospects.

00:15:10.000 Millet wins down in Argentina.

00:15:12.000 Bukele in El Salvador.

00:15:15.000 You got Georgia Maroney in Italy, but she's awful. 1.00

00:15:18.000 That was a good election, but she's been absolutely terrible.

00:15:22.000 Hungary with Victor Orban.

00:15:25.000 You have in the United Kingdom, on the surface, it looks like, oh, this is not good.

00:15:30.000 By the way, just so we're clear, what is coming next is the United Kingdom, Britain, they're about to become a full communist country.

00:15:38.000 You want a provocative thought crime for you?

00:15:41.000 Who actually won the Cold War?

00:15:45.000 Yes, the wall fell.

00:15:47.000 Free societies reign.

00:15:50.000 Where the UK is about to go, the left turn they're going to take a month from today on July 4th is.

00:15:59.000 Legitimately more Marxist and more communist than parts of the Eastern Bloc were before the wall fell. 0.61

00:16:05.000 Parts, not all, parts.

00:16:08.000 In the UK, the left is likely to win because conservatives are such a failure, nobody wants to back them.

00:16:15.000 Who will miss the conservatives?

00:16:16.000 Not us.

00:16:17.000 They had almost 15 years of uninterrupted conservative government.

00:16:21.000 Do they have free speech?

00:16:22.000 No.

00:16:22.000 Do they have a right to bear arms?

00:16:24.000 No.

00:16:24.000 Do they have robust private property rights?

00:16:26.000 No.

00:16:26.000 Do they have a secure border?

00:16:28.000 No.

00:16:29.000 Do they have sane immigration policy?

00:16:32.000 No.

00:16:33.000 And so labor, which just so we're clear, conservatives in the United Kingdom is like Hillary Clinton Democrats.

00:16:40.000 Labor is like Bernie Sanders socialists.

00:16:44.000 So there is no opposition party.

00:16:46.000 Nigel Farage is now running under the Reform Party and drawing massive crowds, massive crowds.

00:16:53.000 The trend in the Western world is a rejection of the status quo.

00:16:58.000 Why is that?

00:16:59.000 It's because cheap money, hyperinflation, and mass migration are the ingredients in the recipe to create a populist revolt. 1.00

00:17:11.000 Add cheap money, add mass migration where your dollar is worth less and you can afford nothing and you own nothing and you are ticked off and you see your country collapse and fall apart as foreigners overrun the nation state. 0.99

00:17:29.000 You see, this is happening in the streets of New York and the streets of London. 1.00

00:17:36.000 This is happening all across the Western world and people are hungry for a response.

00:17:42.000 Some celebrities are starting to say out loud that Joe Biden is going to lose.

00:17:46.000 Now, you better not celebrate anything.

00:17:48.000 We got to get to work.

00:17:48.000 Because by the way, not every poll has been good post-conviction.

00:17:51.000 Some polls show that the race is tightening.

00:17:53.000 This is going to come down to a couple thousand votes.

00:17:56.000 And if it doesn't, praise God.

00:17:58.000 But I believe it's going to come down to a couple thousand votes, a couple thousand votes.

00:18:02.000 And if we lose, it's on us because we didn't work hard enough.

00:18:05.000 Period.

00:18:05.000 End of story.

00:18:06.000 Play cut 53.

00:18:08.000 Can't say it enough.

00:18:09.000 I said it many times.

00:18:11.000 I would vote for his head in a jar of blue liquid over Donald Trump.

00:18:16.000 But that doesn't mean that I'm not.

00:18:18.000 First of all, I don't think it's a moot point at this point.

00:18:22.000 He's going to f ⁇ ing lose.

00:18:24.000 Who Biden?

00:18:25.000 Yes.

00:18:25.000 No, you're wrong.

00:18:26.000 No.

00:18:27.000 I'm going to bet you.

00:18:28.000 Oh, great.

00:18:29.000 We'll see.

00:18:30.000 It's going to come down to who wants to do the work.

00:18:32.000 You can win the popularity polls, but lose the election.

00:18:35.000 You can win the narrative, but lose the election.

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00:19:52.000 Joining us now is Todd Bensman, who is the author of Overrun, How Joe Biden Unleashed the Greatest Border Crisis in U.S. History.

00:19:59.000 Todd, welcome back to the program.

00:20:00.000 Todd, I asked our team specifically to get you on the program because I have a lot of questions here.

00:20:04.000 Here's the way I look at what's happening.

00:20:06.000 So Joe Biden, any moment now, we might cut to it live or we might have picture in picture guys.

00:20:10.000 I don't know who need to cut to it live.

00:20:11.000 We have Todd Bensman who can make sense of it.

00:20:13.000 Joe Biden is going to sign a bunch of executive orders.

00:20:15.000 I want you to tell me what they are.

00:20:16.000 But first, here's my analysis is that Joe Biden is making a calculation or his team is.

00:20:22.000 His reelection campaign is making a calculation.

00:20:24.000 What is the optimum number of illegals to help my party win long term without freaking out the public too much to get reelected?

00:20:31.000 That seems to be what is going on.

00:20:33.000 Todd, what is he signing today?

00:20:35.000 Right.

00:20:35.000 So this is mainly an executive order that will, in his view, or at least in his narrative, reduce the number of illegal immigrants crossing the border and give him the powers and authorities to what he says close the border.

00:20:56.000 But the problem is that he already has the authorities to close the borders.

00:21:01.000 He already has the executive orders to do it.

00:21:05.000 What this is, in my opinion, is a way to draw attention again to the narrative that the Senate and the Republicans and Trump and MAGA will not fix the border, will not give him the legislation that he supposedly needs to fix the border.

00:21:27.000 They've gotten a ton of traction on that narrative.

00:21:30.000 It's a false narrative, but it has gotten a tremendous amount of traction.

00:21:34.000 So what will happen is there will be immediate lawsuits.

00:21:38.000 He knows it.

00:21:39.000 All of his people on his side have already promised they're going to sue on this.

00:21:45.000 There's nothing really to sue about, but they're going to do it.

00:21:48.000 And he'll be able to say, well, if only I had that piece of legislation, I would be able to shut the border down.

00:21:56.000 And I believe that this is all kind of a ploy to be able to keep pointing to that piece of legislation that has now been killed twice, rightfully so.

00:22:06.000 I know this is complicated, but I believe that's what it is.

00:22:10.000 Now, if the president and his campaign actually want to use this to shut the border down, they won't be able to because there are clauses in it that allow border patrol on the ground to let them in and not deport them.

00:22:32.000 If they just say the magic words of, I am afraid to go back to Mexico, they're in anyway.

00:22:39.000 So they'll always have this discretion to, you know, not close the border. 0.95

00:22:44.000 It makes it look like they're closing the border, but God, are you afraid to go back to Mexico, immigrant number one? 0.97

00:22:51.000 Yes, I am. 0.95

00:22:52.000 You're in.

00:22:54.000 So all of this is just, I think, performative and not really going to actually close the border. 0.86

00:23:02.000 What they have is Remain in Mexico.

00:23:05.000 That policy survived all the legal challenges.

00:23:08.000 It is right there like a bullet in the chamber.

00:23:12.000 All they got to do is pull on that and remain in Mexico would actually significantly slow the border, but they don't really want to do that in this case.

00:23:23.000 Let me just ask, I want to make sure how many people currently daily are crossing into the into the country through asylum or gotaways daily.

00:23:31.000 I mean, it ranges, but the ones that are coming through illegally right now is about maybe 4,000 a day in the last couple of weeks, ranging up to 7,000 a day.

00:23:42.000 That's still off from its November, December highs of 12, 13, and 14,000 a day.

00:23:50.000 What I call the media interest level, you know, MIL.

00:23:57.000 If it's if it's anywhere above 7,000 or 8,000 a day, the media gets interested.

00:24:02.000 But if it's below that number, then the media goes away.

00:24:08.000 So they want to get that down below the media interest levels.

00:24:14.000 They have succeeded already in doing that by going to the Obrador administration in Mexico and cutting a secretive deal with the Mexican government to deploy 35,000 troops to round up all the immigrants across from Texas and ship them back down to the Guatemalan border.

00:24:37.000 They've been doing that now constantly for four months since Christmas.

00:24:44.000 And that is what reduced the numbers to below the media interest level.

00:24:50.000 So they're already good.

00:24:51.000 The media is kind of, the mainstream media has kind of gone away a little bit on that.

00:24:56.000 And so that's why I think that this whole thing is a bit of a ploy.

00:25:00.000 It looks like it's an election ploy to be able to, again, point to, God, if they just gave us the legislation that I really need, but they won't.

00:25:10.000 The Republicans keep turning us down and it's MAGA's fault.

00:25:14.000 It's Trump's fault.

00:25:15.000 They want to have a festering order crisis so that they can campaign on it.

00:25:21.000 That's the narrative.

00:25:23.000 So where did the Biden administration get the money to basically bribe these countries to slow down the invasion?

00:25:31.000 Because the numbers, what pocket of money in our $6 trillion budget are they accessing for this?

00:25:38.000 Was this underwritten by Congress as a slush fund so Joe Biden could go pay off the Mexican government?

00:25:44.000 That is the key question.

00:25:47.000 Nobody knows.

00:25:48.000 I interrupt, but like, it would be really great if our members of Congress, instead of, and I'm not blaming, you're doing amazing.

00:25:48.000 Well, but hold on.

00:25:54.000 I'm just really ticked at them.

00:25:56.000 Why are they not like, hey, we underwrite this thing because we're talking about 20 to 30 billion dollars, but it's very honest.

00:26:03.000 It's very clear what's going on.

00:26:04.000 Mexican government has been extorting us.

00:26:07.000 They say, hey, you pay us cash or the equivalent of we can bring the number down so you can get another four years, Joe Biden.

00:26:14.000 Well, what we know is that the president of Mexico has demanded $20 billion.

00:26:22.000 We don't know when he's going to get it.

00:26:23.000 He's leaving office.

00:26:26.000 His party, though, the one that he created, is still very much in power and they've expanded their electoral authority beyond just Mexico City to all the gubernatorial races.

00:26:40.000 And, you know, they really, that party runs the show down there.

00:26:45.000 I believe that at some point they will get a payoff.

00:26:49.000 I don't know if they've been paid off yet.

00:26:51.000 Nobody knows if they've been paid off yet, but they're going to get something and they have all the leverage. 1.00

00:26:58.000 The Mexicans are in the pilot seat until November. 1.00

00:27:03.000 So this is something that our lawmakers ought to be demanding to know what's going on. 0.82

00:27:10.000 How did you get them to deploy all those troops to blockade the rail yards down there to put them on expensive air flights for the 1,500-mile flight back down to Tapachula and via Hermosa?

00:27:27.000 Like, where'd you get all that cash?

00:27:28.000 This is not cheap.

00:27:31.000 So we really don't know, but we do know that the Mexican president said, if you don't give me the money, He said it on 60 minutes, man. 0.92

00:27:41.000 If you don't give me the money, you're going to see the immigrants flow again.

00:27:44.000 Right now, they've got them limited. 1.00

00:27:46.000 I'm not sure if you get that.

00:27:47.000 That's exactly right.

00:27:48.000 You're going, he's like, we're going to turn on the spigot if you don't pay me.

00:27:52.000 Why do we put up with this?

00:27:54.000 Because it's Biden.

00:27:55.000 Can you imagine if Donald Trump was in office and he got that?

00:27:58.000 It'd be like, yeah, your trade is over.

00:28:01.000 All your auto parts, they're shut down.

00:28:03.000 All your food products are going to rot in the trucks for that.

00:28:06.000 He would do that in a nanosecond.

00:28:09.000 But this administration is all more about carrots than sticks.

00:28:14.000 So, you know, remember, Trump, when he was in office, said, you know, do our bidding on all of my policies or we'll have 28% progressive trade tariffs on all your exports to the U.S.

00:28:27.000 Yes.

00:28:28.000 So I want to be clear.

00:28:30.000 These announcements of what he is putting forward today is performative, and I'm going to tell you why.

00:28:36.000 This is 74.

00:28:37.000 This is CNN.

00:28:38.000 In 2020, it's amazing.

00:28:41.000 Out of all the issues that Trump was struggling on in 2020, masks, masks, COVID, according to polling, CNN polling, Trump was actually behind Biden by a point on who handles immigration better.

00:28:55.000 Now Trump beats Biden by 27 points on the same question, play cut 74.

00:28:59.000 So this is a better job on border security and immigration, which tends to be one of former President Trump's best questions.

00:29:06.000 But I think the key thing here, Kate, to look at is the timeline and look at the trend line here.

00:29:11.000 Because back in June of 2020, Biden was actually trusted more on the question of border security and immigration by a single point.

00:29:18.000 Look at where we are in May of 2024.

00:29:21.000 My goodness gracious.

00:29:23.000 Look at this huge jump that Donald Trump has gotten.

00:29:26.000 He is now ahead on this issue by 27 percentage points.

00:29:30.000 So it's not just that immigration is more at the top of voters' minds than it was four years ago.

00:29:35.000 It's that who they trust on the issue has changed tremendously.

00:29:38.000 I look at a lot of questions.

00:29:39.000 I dig into the crosstabs a lot.

00:29:41.000 The fact that you see a 30-point shift, I'm used to seeing 10, 15, maybe 20-point shift, but basically a 30-point shift, 28 points, if you want to be exact.

00:29:49.000 That is very, very different from a lot of other polling questions.

00:29:54.000 Your reaction, Todd Benson.

00:29:55.000 Right.

00:29:56.000 Well, for two years, they denied there was anything happening at the border.

00:29:59.000 It was just north.

00:30:00.000 Border's under control.

00:30:02.000 My orchest told us over and over again.

00:30:04.000 But the pipe backed up and it burst all over everybody in the northern cities, Chicago, Denver, Boston, Washington, D.C., New York City.

00:30:15.000 And so people can see it and feel it in their communities.

00:30:19.000 It's all around them.

00:30:20.000 You can't avoid millions and millions of people that are all there with their hands out, busting your budget, driving your city into bankruptcy and diverting to your pockets all of the funding that black communities and Latino communities have been asking for for 50 years, investment in their communities.

00:30:42.000 And people are pissed.

00:30:44.000 People are really pissed at the grassroots around the country over this, and they can't deny it.

00:30:49.000 Yeah, and no matter what Biden does, I think that this is, I think this is largely baked.

00:30:54.000 Things move at a glacial pace in presidential politics.

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00:31:56.000 Okay, I want to quickly play Cut 76 here.

00:31:59.000 Let's play Cut 76.

00:32:01.000 With the ear of the White House, President Lopez Oberdor proposed his fix: that the United States commit $20 billion a year to poor countries in Latin America and the Caribbean, lift sanctions on Venezuela, end the Cuban embargo, and legalize millions of law-abiding Mexicans living in the U.S. If they don't do the things that you've said need to be done, then what?

00:32:26.000 Bah. 1.00

00:32:27.000 The flow of migrants. 1.00

00:32:30.000 We'll continue. 1.00

00:32:32.000 I mean, this is unbelievable.

00:32:34.000 I mean, Todd Bensman, how is that not a declaration of war against America?

00:32:37.000 That should be met with threatens, threats of tariffs and drone strikes.

00:32:41.000 Right.

00:32:42.000 I mean, that's about the most blatant.

00:32:44.000 I almost can't even believe he went on 60 minutes and said that.

00:32:49.000 But in case anybody was wondering if he didn't really mean it, if you kept playing it, the interviewer goes on and says, that sounds like blackmail, diplomatic blackmail.

00:32:59.000 Is that what you mean?

00:33:00.000 And he was like, I mean what I say.

00:33:03.000 So that happened.

00:33:06.000 He is in the pilot seat right now.

00:33:08.000 Like I said, something is going to, a value is going to change hands.

00:33:12.000 That was a bribery demand.

00:33:16.000 And he can actually follow through.

00:33:18.000 I mean, if he just cut loose and let things go back to 12 and 14,000 a day, which he could do with a snap of his fingers, then Trump wins.

00:33:30.000 Yeah.

00:33:30.000 And so this is, you want to talk about foreign interference in our election?

00:33:34.000 I mean, the Mexican government is far more involved in our elections than Russia ever was.

00:33:40.000 Right.

00:33:41.000 And then, you know, there's more to it because further south in Panama, something to watch.

00:33:47.000 I wrote a lengthy analysis of this for the American mind just last week that the new president of Panama is threatening to and vowing to close down the Darien gap, which is a good thing.

00:34:03.000 You want these governments to shut it, shut things down.

00:34:07.000 You don't want them to demand extortionary costs for it, but you want them to do these things. 0.95

00:34:16.000 It's good for America to not have millions of people coming through.

00:34:20.000 But if the Panamanian president closes the Darien gap, 800,000 are expected to come through there in 2024.

00:34:28.000 That also will help the Biden administration, the campaign, bring those numbers down to below the media interest level quite a bit.

00:34:37.000 But that is definitely something else to watch.

00:34:41.000 We don't want mass migration here, but what the Biden administration is, their newfound intense interest is not for the American people.

00:34:54.000 It's for the preservation of power in November.

00:34:58.000 And after November, you can expect those 13 and 14,000 days again for four more years.

00:35:05.000 And that's what's at stake here.

00:35:07.000 Todd Bensman, thank you so much.

00:35:09.000 We'll have you on again soon.

00:35:09.000 Excellent work.

00:35:10.000 Check out his book, Overrun.

00:35:11.000 Thank you.

00:35:12.000 Thank you. 1.00

00:35:12.000 We're being extorted by a foreign power. 1.00

00:35:14.000 I hope everyone understands that.

00:35:16.000 You want to talk about foreign interference in our election?

00:35:18.000 There is pure extortion from the Mexican government who is calling our shots.

00:35:22.000 I'll tell you, if Donald Trump becomes president, God willing, and we're working very hard towards that end, he's got to put a tariff on immediately.

00:35:29.000 Say, oh, nice car factories, nice automobile manufactories.

00:35:32.000 By the way, we got to bomb these cartel drug manufacturing centers. 0.84

00:35:35.000 Just do it. 0.99

00:35:36.000 A couple F-16s, drop some bombs on these fentanyl production plants. 0.99

00:35:41.000 Just end it. 0.94

00:35:42.000 Get 100 of them one night. 1.00

00:35:44.000 Oh, sorry, Mexico. 1.00

00:35:45.000 What are you going to do about it? 1.00

00:35:47.000 Email, I'd love to see that new commie feminazi they have run in the country. 0.95

00:35:50.000 What is this so bad? 1.00

00:35:51.000 Okay, shut up. 0.99

00:35:55.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody. 0.97

00:35:56.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:59.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - June 04, 2024

America Becomes the Third World, While The Third World Beats Us

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