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00:01:36.000Well, look, I mean, for all the people who are talking about Russia's good versus evil battle in Ukraine, invading regions of the Donbass, and I reject that characterization of good versus evil.
00:01:48.000Just because Putin is bad doesn't mean Ukraine is good.
00:01:50.000But one of the things that I've called out in the hypocrisy of the media and the political class chattering about this is their total silence on Azerbaijan's incursions into the Nagorno-Karabakh region, where Armenian Christians have lived for a long time, since 1994 has been internationally recognized as a boundary, driving them out.
00:02:09.000Charlie, this isn't some time in the distant past.
00:02:11.000This is last month, in the month of September, where you don't hear a peep about it.
00:02:17.000I mean, there are certain groups that are politically popular, certain ones that aren't.
00:02:20.000And right now, Christians aren't a popular group.
00:02:22.000So that's a region, certainly with the media.
00:02:25.000It's not an area that they decide to pay attention to, even as they'll talk endlessly about Ukraine, which happens to be a nation that, who would have guessed, is also persecuting Christians.
00:02:34.000And so I tend to focus on areas where others aren't focused.
00:02:38.000I tend to hate saying things when others are already saying them.
00:02:41.000Yes, I wrote Woke Inc. at a time where no one was talking about those issues.
00:02:44.000Now every Republican candidate wants to have a pissing contest over who's more anti-woke, and that's fine.
00:02:49.000I share my convictions, but I don't like to repeat what others are repeating.
00:02:54.000When it comes to foreign policy, it's the same way for me is that let's talk about what nobody else is talking about.
00:03:00.000Now, I also have different views on how to deal with brewing conflict in the Middle East, how to bring the Ukraine war to a close.
00:03:08.000My view is there's no point in just saying what everybody else is saying.
00:03:10.000Let's talk about actual dimensions that get us to truth.
00:03:18.000I would love nothing more than for the IDF to put the heads of the top 100 Hamas leaders on stakes and line them up on the Israel-Gaza border as a sign that October 7th, 2023 will never happen again.
00:03:32.000And then to use all of those saved resources to build the border defenses of the future.
00:03:37.000But that is Israel's decision to make, not ours.
00:03:40.000That is what David Ben-Gurion would tell Israel to do.
00:03:43.000That is what George Washington would tell the United States to do.
00:03:53.000And the U.S. job as an ally is to make sure that Israel has a diplomatic iron dome protecting them from the U.N. or anybody else, stopping them from doing what they need to do to defend their own country.
00:04:06.000Israel is our most important ally in the Middle East.
00:04:37.000Israel is our friend and ally in the Middle East, and we support them as a friend and ally diplomatically and intelligence sharing and otherwise.
00:04:44.000But I don't want to get us, the United States of America, if I'm the president, that's where my moral obligation is, into another prolonged no-win war in the Middle East.
00:04:53.000And Charlie, what I see in the GOP today is it's Dick Cheney 2.0 all over again, trying to take this party over again.
00:05:00.000And in many ways, it's Dick Cheney 2.0 and the Republican Party that's even worse than some of the Democrats.
00:05:07.000They took us, and it's people my age that went and died, thousands of them, in Iraq and Afghanistan, to what end?
00:05:14.000It's the Taliban still in charge 20 years later, for God's sake, a hostile anti-American regime in Iraq.
00:05:20.000$7 trillion of our $33 trillion national debt today to be borne by the next generation due to those two wars alone.
00:05:27.000So no, that's not going to happen on my watch.
00:05:29.000And I think that's the actual choice in this GOP primary.
00:05:33.000Do you want to go the way of the past?
00:05:34.000Do you want Dick Cheney 2.0 escalating in this case potentially to World War III because we got Russia-Ukraine going on at the same time while Russia and China are in military alliance with one another?
00:05:44.000Do you want to be taken there by people like the Nikki Haleys of the world who will make money doing it?
00:05:48.000The bombs explode, their bank account grows.
00:05:51.000Do you want to go that direction of the past?
00:05:53.000Or do you want to go the direction of the future, which I think is America first that is far bigger than just the Republican Party and excludes much of the Republican Party in it too, which is why I could care less for the Republican versus Democrat debate on this issue.
00:06:07.000Yeah, the consensus in the Republican primary absent Donald Trump is invade the world, invite the world.
00:06:14.000And Nikki Haley is clamoring to get us into another war with Iran.
00:06:18.000You have been morally clear with the Russian-Ukrainian war.
00:06:23.000And so, Vivek, you've been more and more vindicated with that as we continue onward.
00:06:28.000It is a tragedy and honestly a slaughter of the Ukrainian people.
00:06:33.000I don't know if you saw the recent Time magazine piece, Vivek.
00:06:37.000It's sad and depressing and really heavy, what is happening in Ukraine, all preventable.
00:06:45.000Talk about the contrast between your vision for America First foreign policy and the other people running for the presidency, absent Donald Trump, that want more money, more arms.
00:06:55.000In fact, even Mike Pence, before he dropped out, he visited Ukraine, a meat grinder basically for nothing.
00:07:02.000Yeah, so I think there's two America First candidates in this race, and we can talk about distinctions there.
00:07:07.000But the real deep divide in the GOP is Donald Trump and myself are America First candidates.
00:07:12.000Everybody else is a neocon looking for Dick Cheney 2.0.
00:07:16.000And it's a worldview that's different.
00:07:18.000So I'm not just going to criticize it.
00:07:20.000One worldview is that it's America's job to be a hegemon, and part of being a hegemon means that you have to make moral judgments elsewhere and use the U.S. military to enforce those moral judgments.
00:08:43.000It's a country that's banned 11 opposition parties.
00:08:46.000The leader celebrates Nazis in his own ranks, goes after Christians in his own country, says he won't hold elections this year unless the U.S. forks over more money, consolidates all media into one state TV media arm.
00:08:58.000Anybody ever asked the question of why Russia had such an easy time in eastern Ukraine, but not other parts of Ukraine?
00:09:03.000Because the parts of eastern Ukraine that they occupy in the Donbas are Russian-speaking regions that haven't been represented in the Ukrainian parliament for nearly 10 years, so there was no counter-resistance.
00:09:15.000So these are hard facts in the Russia-Ukraine case that make that one easy.
00:09:19.000In the Israel case, what Hamas did to Israel absolutely, I do think, is an example of good versus evil, evil versus good.
00:09:25.000Hamas's attack on Israel was subhuman.
00:09:29.000And I think we should diplomatically, absolutely stand with Israel in intelligence sharing and keep our prior pre-existing commitments.
00:09:36.000But through an America-first lens, I think it's wrong.
00:09:40.000If you're going to call that an attack on America, as other politicians have, if you don't know what an attack on America is, you have no business being in the leadership of America because when those kind of people lead America, that's exactly when you are going to get an attack on America.
00:09:54.000We need to use that as a reminder to protect our own homeland because if that can happen in Israel, that can happen here in the United States too, especially when you have leaders who are asleep at the switch that are in charge focused on other conflicts except for our own homeland here at home.
00:13:16.000One of those choices in the race is probably plenty of representative.
00:13:19.000And so I think that Mike Pence did a good thing for the country by getting the heck out of the race.
00:13:23.000And I think that others could probably do well to follow his lead.
00:13:27.000My view on the debate is: look, they've been pretty lame so far in the way they've been done.
00:13:32.000And I hope a thinned field allows me to really ask the questions that nobody else is asking.
00:13:38.000If the moderators aren't going to do it, I'm going to get in there and do the job myself of smoking out where this deep ideological divide is on whether we want to send our sons and daughters to fight other people's wars and rack up national debt doing it or not.
00:13:50.000And I hope it's not some sort of virtue signaling fest where we're all just competing on who's actually saying the easy thing we all agree on in a more indignant way.
00:13:59.000No, I think that the other candidates deserve to be held account to account.
00:14:02.000I want to talk about corruption in politics.
00:14:05.000That's something that we don't talk about enough.
00:14:07.000And the Republican Party, I think, frankly is not that much better than the opposition here.
00:14:12.000I think the Republican Party has gotten in the way of actually having open debates.
00:14:17.000You know, when I was called to spar with Chris Christie, I said I would do it.
00:14:20.000If I want to spar with RFK or a different candidate, I'm happy to do it.
00:14:24.000But the Republican Party's gotten in the way in saying that the rules don't really apply to allowing for inter-candidate debates.
00:14:48.000What I told the RNC is: listen, guys, instead of this NBC thing, okay, turning point action, they don't want to work with us, obviously, but they can't stand us.
00:14:55.000But I said, listen, you know, we come in, we have Bannon or Bongino, Walz.
00:15:27.000So, look, I actually think that you raise a pretty interesting point where we should have multiple perspectives across the conservative movement challenging candidates.
00:15:36.000And I do think that the real issue that I have with it narrowly is the last debate from the Reagan Library, the way that was hosted versus the next one.
00:15:45.000The candidates aren't really being challenged on the one wedge that matters, which comes down to foreign policy.
00:15:50.000Do you believe in these foreign wars and World War III or not?
00:15:53.000So you basically have a pro-war establishment.