China Keeps Rising! - The Rise of the Chinese Communist Party - Francis Fukiyama - Mike Lee - And More! Recorded in Los Angeles, CA! . The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold.
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00:01:23.000We had an amazing event last night in Visalia, California.
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00:02:37.000But speaking of foreign nations, yesterday, something really important happened.
00:02:43.000And all the headlines are focused on the optics and the aesthetics and the visuals, which is fine, but it's deeper than that.
00:02:53.000Yesterday was the 80-year anniversary of Victory Day, or the essentially the founding of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:03:00.000The visuals were obviously impressive.
00:03:02.000Look, totalitarian countries, they do military parades quite well.
00:03:05.000They're able to mobilize everything without any of the media clamoring or yammering.
00:03:10.000And it was impressive from the nuclear arsenal to their investments in the military.
00:03:16.000The Chinese Communist Party wanted to put on full display for the rest of the world, and especially it really was all designed for an audience of one.
00:03:24.000The military parade was really designed for one person.
00:03:28.000And that person, of course, is President Donald Trump.
00:03:30.000The Chinese were doing, as you can see, propaganda of their bombers and of their aircraft.
00:03:37.000They're investing billions and billions of dollars in their military.
00:03:41.000Now, their military is still a fraction of our entire military investment.
00:03:46.000It's still about 200 to 300 billion dollars a year.
00:03:50.000However, you have to wonder, even though they spend a fraction that we do, they probably don't have the bloat in the waist and the government contractors that we do.
00:03:59.000You have to wonder if they're able to spread that a little bit more than we do.
00:04:03.000We waste a ton of money on our military, a ton of money on Lockheed Martin and Northup Grumman.
00:04:08.000However, I think there is definitely still an admission from independent analysts that we have military weaponry and technology that they still do not have.
00:04:17.000We pay soldiers a ton of money, they do not.
00:04:20.000They're able to draft anyone they want.
00:04:21.000They're a country of 770 million able-bodied people and a country of well over a billion individuals.
00:04:33.000They might have hypersonic missiles that we don't have, by the way.
00:04:36.000I'm putting these visuals up on screen here because we have focused on a lot of different topics mass migration, the Islamism rising in the West.
00:04:44.000But I think what yesterday should be a reminder is a little bit of an early fall wake up call.
00:04:53.000We already know that the Chinese Communist Party is a great threat to us.
00:05:36.000And not only did they have that, they brought Vladimir Putin, they brought Kim Jong-un, they brought a lot of the other tyrannical autocrats from the region in a massive show of force.
00:05:46.000Oh, there's the vice president of China.
00:06:31.000They're basically what works, what makes us rich, if we have to liberalize some areas, we will, but if we have to be totalitarian in other ways, we'll also do that.
00:06:42.000The Chinese Communist Party's economy is still not as big as ours.
00:07:30.000Chinese Communist Party is at year 80.
00:07:32.000I want you to think about where we were in year 80.
00:07:34.000Year 80, we were fighting a civil war.
00:07:37.000Year 80, we were still trying to find our national identity.
00:07:39.000Once we got through the Civil War, we then had basically an uninterrupted rise to a superpower with, you know, industrial revolution, World War II, World War II, but we did not have serious existential threats to the homeland post-Civil War.
00:07:52.000Once we got through that civil war right around our 80th birthday, approximation, then we were able to basically have a glide pattern up towards being the superpower of the 19th century, late 9th century, the 20th century, and of course now the 21st century.
00:08:07.000Those two oceans and Canada and Mexico being next to us are quite helpful.
00:08:10.000And of course, we've made mistakes, we've slipped in some ways, but we are still the world's superpower, and we still have this window of opportunity.
00:08:16.000We still have this window where we have a great president, we have a mandate, we have a nationalistic undercurrent in our country where we need to have a very serious moment and say, what exactly is China?
00:08:29.000Why are we not treating them in the way we should be?
00:08:32.000Or maybe we should not be treating that way.
00:08:34.000President Donald Trump had some very harsh words for the Chinese Communist Party today.
00:08:38.000He said, I was not happy in many ways.
00:08:40.000He said, I'm I was not happy with what I saw, and I know it was for me.
00:08:44.000I was very impressed, but I was not pleased by Xi Jinping's comments.
00:08:50.000President Trump is rebuilding our military, but you have to wonder for every one dollar that we spend in our military, I would just conjecture the Chinese Communist Party is able to probably spend like 25 cents.
00:08:59.000I bet they get way more bang for their buck on military spending than we do.
00:09:04.000And we can't always see this in terms of money.
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00:11:39.000In order for us to keep talking about China, it's very important that all of you in the audience know the name and the book, first Francis Fukiyama and the book, The End of History and The Last Man.
00:12:02.000This was about the crescendo of the ruling class of the West that believed that this was the end of all human government, that liberal democracy had emerged as literally the final form of human government.
00:12:19.000The claim wasn't that history literally ends, but that the ideological evolution has reached its endpoint.
00:12:25.000No rival system at the time in 1992 seemed capable of challenging liberal democracy in legitimacy or performance.
00:12:34.000We assumed the American way had won forever.
00:12:40.000I was told by teachers, I was told by professionals, Charlie, the more that we trade with China, soon they're going to be wearing Levi jeans and having McDonald's in Tiananmen Square, and they'll be listening on their iPods.
00:12:55.000And once they do that, they're going to embrace free speech.
00:12:58.000They're going to embrace American values and they will de-radicalize and decouple from totalitarianism.
00:13:04.000This book, The End of History and The Last Man by Francis Fukiyama, without a doubt, was one of the most important arrogant theses of the 1990s.
00:13:16.000It set the tone for the American ruling class.
00:13:19.000Because the wall had fallen, the enemy of the Soviet Union collapsed.
00:13:23.000We did it without having to go to a kinetic war.
00:13:26.000It felt as if we did not just win a war, but we won an ideological battle, and boy, did we get cocky.
00:13:33.000Our leaders assumed anybody who came to America from China will decide America's way is better than China's and either join our team or fight to make China be on our side.
00:13:44.000But if you really think about it, if you come here today from China, what are you likely to think?
00:13:49.000Cities are filthy, they're murderous, they're dangerous.
00:13:54.000And as we have declined in virtue in our country, it's much harder to have liberty when you do not have virtue.
00:14:00.000When you do not have a virtuous people, when you do not have strong families, when you do not have people going to church, liberty quickly becomes license.
00:16:31.000And instead of entering the victory with humility, we also did the 1990 Immigration Act.
00:16:36.000We opened up our borders to the entire world.
00:16:38.000And now in 2025, we are reckoning with the consequences of the cockiness of the leaders of the 1990s.
00:16:47.000So much what we are living through is because of the arrogance and the pride of a ruling class in America that saw the wall fall in Berlin and said, We won, baby.
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00:18:35.000Joining us now is a great friend and amazing person, Senator Mike Lee from the wonderful state of Utah.
00:18:58.000They think our permit should be pulled.
00:19:00.000What uh this is a greater response than when I go to Berkeley.
00:19:04.000Senator Lee, what is going on in the beautiful state of Utah?
00:19:08.000Well, first of all, Charlie, I want to thank you for the work that you're doing on campuses across the country and for your interest in visiting Utah next week.
00:19:15.000Uh you're you're giving students everywhere the chance to hear perspectives that they uh often wouldn't otherwise get.
00:19:23.000Uh you've been on the front lines defending free speech, uh uh, especially where it's been most under pressure, uh, as it has been on college campuses all over the country.
00:19:33.000And I'm so glad that you're bringing that fight uh to Utah State uh university and Utah Valley University next week.
00:19:40.000Look, free speech shouldn't stop at the campus gates.
00:19:43.000If anything, uh we we should have uh a heightened degree of attention and focus a heightened degree of protectiveness around uh free speech on campuses, because the learning environment necessarily requires open, honest conversations where different viewpoints are examined.
00:20:01.000Our students uh deserve open discussion and vigorous debate and not just the same sanitized woke version that uh so many college administrators and faculty members seem to prefer and seem to demand exclusively.
00:20:16.000Uh look, Utah's belief in open debate and free exchange of ideas.
00:20:21.000What you're doing uh helps to ensure students get that experience.
00:20:26.000Because if students can't handle diverse ideas in college, how are they ever going to handle that in real life?
00:20:31.000So look, I I I hope and expect that your visit to Utah will be productive, that you will be able to speak, they're not gonna exclude you.
00:20:41.000And I anticipate that once you're there, uh a lot of the naysayers, a lot of those people trying to exclude you are gonna see some real utility behind your visit there.
00:20:51.000Um who knows why they decide uh uh to start these things, but each time they start them, and then you show up and do what you do best.
00:21:01.000Uh uh uh uh people are enlightened as a result of it.
00:21:05.000Well, it's gonna be fun, and I think some of these people that are getting very angry are gonna be very disappointed, because I am the same person on this program that I'm there on campus.
00:21:13.000And if you disagree, you can go to the front of the line and we're gonna have a good chat.
00:21:46.000Please take some time and go into some detail and explain what's happening in the great state of Utah.
00:21:52.000Yeah, so Utah's electoral system is under attack by Democrats and and uh including their leftist allies in the Utah courts.
00:21:59.000Um about seven years ago, uh, there was uh an effort uh through which Utah voters passed a law through a ballot initiative, creating a legislative redistricting commission.
00:22:11.000Now, in the years that followed, the Utah legislature uh subsequently amended that law, uh, which it has the power to do under the Utah Constitution.
00:22:23.000Uh in other words, you can make a law uh either through the legislature or through a ballot initiative.
00:22:29.000Uh the power somewhat rarely used, but when it is used, it it runs on a parallel track with laws made by the legislature.
00:22:36.000And so that the legislature can subsequently amend or even repeal a law that was previously made under our state constitution through a ballot initiative.
00:22:47.000But uh Utah courts are now invalidating uh the legislature's amendments to that earlier ballot initiative and to Utah's existing congressional district maps, even though nothing in the Utah Constitution compels or even allows that result.
00:23:02.000And even though uh one provision in particular, Article 9 of the Utah Constitution actually requires legislative districts, including congressional districts, to be drawn by the legislature.
00:23:14.000Not by some uh nameless, faceless uh commission uh consisting of people who, as well-educated and well-intentioned as they might be, uh, have never been elected by anybody and and don't serve accountable to the voters of Utah.
00:23:28.000So it now appears that Utah is likely to be bound by uh uh a process involving congressional district maps being drawn, not by the legislature, but by this outside commission.
00:23:41.000And although the legislature still has final authority to approve any such maps uh under the uh court order that came out last week that maps of uh uh one way or another have to be uh more or less drawn by the commission, even though that constitution belongs to the legislature.
00:23:57.000Look, this is great for Utah's Democrats who haven't controlled the Utah legislature in many, many decades.
00:24:04.000Uh not because Utah voters um uh are ignorant, but because they don't like what the Democratic Party is selling and have it for decades.
00:24:13.000That's why we have Republican supermajority uh uh margins in the Utah House and in the Senate, and why we've controlled the governor's office for decades.
00:24:22.000Um, but now with this, they found a clever way uh uh to even the score by enlisting the help of their judicial allies.
00:24:31.000Look, this is a terrible development uh for the rule of law for voters in Utah who deserve to have these decisions made in a manner consistent with the U.S. Constitution and the Utah Constitution.
00:24:44.000Now, and make no mistake, this this decision, while being heralded by the left because they like it, because it's a victory.
00:24:50.000These are cheap points they're scoring.
00:24:53.000This will make the process of drawing legislative districts in Utah less accountable to the voters, not more.
00:24:59.000Because that's what happens when you take that constitutional responsibility away from elected lawmakers and you give it to someone else.
00:25:06.000It'll also result in maps that are far more generous to Democrats, and I think that's the whole point.
00:25:11.000Uh is that they hope to pick up at least one seat, maybe two for Democrats in Utah as a result of this.
00:25:18.000So it's kind of a judicial takeover of the political process, one that's designed by leftists to advance the electoral prospects of the Democratic Party in Utah.
00:25:27.000And it's yet another example of how these independent commissions are so often used by the left to give an unfair, unearned advantage to Democrats in red states, one that they could never otherwise secure through the electoral process.
00:25:41.000Yeah, so this is part of a broader redistricting fight in California and Texas.
00:25:47.000Let me ask this wh why is Utah seemingly having this Democrat appeasing moderate streak?
00:25:54.000Let's just talk more broadly about Utah.
00:25:56.000You're a constitutional conservative, Senator Lee, and one of the best, if not the best, in the nation, and you have an amazing track record, and you're so good to your constituents and you represent your voters.
00:26:08.000Why is it that in Utah, which is supposed to be this solidly red state, why give any ground at all whatsoever?
00:26:16.000What are the influences that are seeping into Utah that seem to be changing the politic there?
00:26:22.000Perhaps first and foremost, I think we've gotten a little complacent with the fact that we've had these Republican majorities in both houses of our legislature and uh the governor's office and so many of our other prominent elected positions in the state.
00:26:35.000Um the fact that we've had those under uh uh uh re the Republican banner for as many decades as we have has perhaps uh um caused um many in the state to not be aware of what's going on because you have to dig into some of these details to see what's going on once something like this happens.
00:26:53.000Then you add to that, Charlie, what happens in a state like mine, uh uh a Republican state, consistently Republican state, that has no conservative media to speak of it.
00:27:03.000Uh, you know, we've got a uh a handful here or there, uh uh we've got a uh uh uh a handful of of great uh uh people on the radio, for example.
00:27:14.000Um, but as far as our print media and our mainstream broadcast media, TV and radio within the state, uh we have no significant large-scale uh conservative or even right of center um media uh uh within Utah.
00:27:31.000It's a pretty mismatched state in terms of the political views of the constituency, the citizenry of Utah, and the uh disparity between that and the news media establishment.
00:27:44.000Uh uh, but but here again, just w with the apathy problem or the lack of awareness problem.
00:27:49.000The more people talk about this, the more we can draw attention to it.
00:27:52.000I think we can remedy some of that defect.
00:27:54.000And I think what you're doing uh with your visit to Utah next week, which I applaud, uh helps to shed light on these things and helps to raise awareness of what's actually happening.
00:28:05.000Senator, in closing here, I want you to comment on the CDC situation.
00:28:10.000Senate Republicans express alarm over CDC directors' firing.
00:28:14.000Can't imagine that you share that view, but if you do, I'd love to hear, because I trust your opinion.
00:28:18.000Well, what is your opinion of what's happening at the CDC right now?
00:28:21.000Look, uh my copy of the Constitution says that the executive power of the U.S. government is vested in the president.
00:28:30.000Now, for that to mean anything, for the Constitution to hold up for the separation of powers generally to be respected, including this uh the element of separation of powers that's found within Article II, which governs the executive branch and the president.
00:28:44.000For those things to mean anything, the president, as the head of the executive branch, necessarily must have the authority to hire and fire subordinates.
00:28:54.000Now, some of those subordinate officers uh require Senate confirmation when he hires them, but uh there's no comparable restriction on congressional authorization to fire them, nor should there be.
00:29:08.000Now, by statute, we have uh Congress has over time, unwisely and I believe unconstitutionally, limited the president's firing authority to these four-cause circumstances or or through career civil servant protection or otherwise.
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00:30:43.000So it's been say a week or two, probably, since we've covered the Epstein situation.
00:30:49.000We are covering a lot of other stories.
00:30:52.000And the media, they they were waiting for this.
00:30:54.000You see, Congress, they brought in a lot of the Epstein victims, and it's undoubtedly terrible what Epstein did to the underage high school girls and groomed them and sexually abused them.
00:31:07.000They're bringing in all of these Epstein victims.
00:31:12.000Interestingly, one of them is a man, so I don't that's breaking news, at least to me.
00:31:17.000I don't quite know all the details surrounding that.
00:31:19.000And NBC News thought they had their moment.
00:31:52.000I'm glad they were able to air it out, because this was a swing and a miss and a media loss right here.
00:31:58.000And this kind of goes to show that there's a lot of misinformation and half-truths that are circulating around this entire thing, especially in the proximity of President Trump.
00:32:09.000So President Donald Trump has been thrown in to all of this unnecessarily.
00:32:37.000I do have to ask, and I know, uh and it's just something that I think we're compelled to at this moment, with the attention on President Trump with these questions around a part in.
00:32:46.000Did anybody see or hear of the president himself doing anything inappropriate as it related to Jeffrey Epstein?
00:34:01.000This is why you gotta be very careful with this stuff, everybody.
00:34:04.000You saw this with the Jerry Sandusky case in Penn State.
00:34:06.000You gotta be very, very careful with situations like this.
00:34:10.000Because you get a lot, you can get a bandwagon effect where a lot of people use half-truths to be able to get money from a guy that obviously had a lot of assets.
00:34:19.000So you gotta be gotta have a lot, you gotta pursue evidence.
00:34:21.000But you saw right there with the other previous clip.
00:34:24.000I just gotta replay this anticlimactic one.
00:34:26.000You gotta see this big wind up from NBC.
00:34:31.000I do have to ask, and I know it's just something that I think we're compelled to at this moment, with the attention on President Trump with these questions around a part in.
00:34:40.000Did anybody see or hear of the president himself doing anything inappropriate as it related to Jeffrey Epstein?
00:34:49.000That's the entire media narrative poof.
00:34:51.000By the way, if the answer was yes, we would have heard this years ago if Biden would have been sitting on files that show Donald Trump compromised with anything Epstein, they would have released this a long time ago.
00:35:01.000And I'm just gonna be honest, with a lot of these movements that we see.
00:35:05.000We saw this with Sandusky, we saw this with others, and Michael Tracy on Twitter, quote, the British model and socialite who stayed in contact with Jeffrey Epstein into her 30s and who was ruled by a judge to have endured no illegal sexual activity, is currently speaking at the big Epstein press conference.
00:35:21.000So you get a lot of hanger-ons, you get a lot of bandwagon effect, you get a lot of people in moments like this that are gonna try to either get money or try to ruin ruin somebody's character, and especially they'll try to ruin Donald Trump's character.
00:35:33.000And you saw an NBC that it can't even do that.
00:36:43.000It's bad because the young ladies who were actually abused by this monster, Jeffrey Epstein, are now going to be looped into some of these liars.
00:37:44.000And especially if there are people like Michael Tracy tweets, this British socialite who a judge endured no illegal activity and stayed in contact with Epstein into the 30s, into her 30s.
00:37:57.000Guys, that's not someone that I think we should be platforming.
00:38:11.000This happens way too often in situations like this is you see a gold rush.
00:38:17.000From Sandusky to I there's like 50 examples.
00:38:21.000The Weinstein case, by the way, Harvey Weinstein is a great example.
00:38:24.000Candace Owens has done some actually very interesting reporting on this.
00:38:28.000I don't know if I agree with all of it.
00:38:29.000She's actually really made me reconsider all, but the point being is that you have a gold rush in situations like this, where you have real victims at the core who deserve restitution and deserve justice, and then you have people on the exterior who present themselves as real victims, either for attention or money.
00:38:47.000But the key today, and the big takeaway is that this was a major swing and a miss for the media.
00:39:39.000We're cautious, as we should be, because you're dealing with people's, not just reputation, but you're dealing with the truth.
00:39:45.000And what you do not want, what will invalidate the actual abuse of these victims and the treacherous elements of this, whether it be intel agencies or all the other stuff, will be a bunch of opportunists that gold rush into this in a me too way to try to get cash or try to get clicks.
00:41:16.000But now we're verging on, we're we're blurring some lines, like this one socialite who was a judge ruled no illegal sexual activity, was an adult when they when she engaged with Epstein, and stayed in contact through his 30s.