The Charlie Kirk Show - America's Christian Founding

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, happy Independence Day.

00:00:01.000 It is Bill Federer on the program as we talk about our roots.

00:00:05.000 What is the American founding story?

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00:01:29.000 Alright, well before I get to Bill Federer here, and I just want to show the new Trump ad attacking Kamala Harris.

00:01:35.000 I think this is great.

00:01:37.000 It's some breaking news.

00:01:38.000 Let's play Cut 78.

00:01:43.000 We're talking about the significance of the passage of time.

00:01:45.000 Right?

00:01:47.000 The significance of the passage of time.

00:01:50.000 So when we think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do to lay these wires, what we need to do to create these jobs.

00:02:00.000 And there is such great significance to the passage of time.

00:02:04.000 So the importance of community banks is they are as they are called.

00:02:08.000 They're in the community.

00:02:10.000 Led by members of the community.

00:02:13.000 They are people who understand the capacity of the community, the needs of the community, the culture of the community.

00:02:24.000 Space is exciting!

00:02:28.000 It is time for us to do what we have been doing and that time is every day.

00:02:35.000 Every day it is time for us to agree that there are things and tools that are available to us to slow this thing down.

00:02:45.000 I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by what has been.

00:02:49.000 You know?

00:02:51.000 That's real.

00:03:00.000 That is real.

00:03:02.000 Happy Independence Day weekend, everybody.

00:03:04.000 Joining us now is Bill Federer, a great American.

00:03:06.000 Bill, welcome to the program.

00:03:08.000 So Bill, let me ask you, you're a historian, a master historian.

00:03:12.000 In American history, has there ever been a president removed from office that you know of that was running for re-election in such a fashion that we're about to see?

00:03:23.000 No, no.

00:03:24.000 We do have 1919 when Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat, had a stroke and his wife, Edith Boling Galt, was the liaison.

00:03:34.000 So the senators would come to the bedroom door and she would get the message and supposedly go in and talk to him, but come back and tell the answer. 0.99

00:03:44.000 And nobody knows if he was really cognizant or if she was just running the country for two years.

00:03:50.000 But he wasn't running for re-election, so this is definitely a unique situation.

00:03:56.000 So Bill, they're talking about potentially the 25th Amendment.

00:03:59.000 What is the origination of the 25th Amendment and how would that potentially work if it was invoked against Joe Biden?

00:04:05.000 Yeah, well, it would be the cabinet deciding that he was no longer capable of fulfilling the duties of the office, and they would vote him out, and then the vice president would be there, and if she didn't fulfill the role, then it would be the Speaker of the House, and the succession was put in place after The Nixon situation of Watergate, but it is a removal of the president.

00:04:37.000 You know, one of the things I've looked at is Athens in 430 BC had a leader named Pericles.

00:04:49.000 And he tried to impeach his competitor, Simone, twice.

00:04:55.000 And that was called ostracizing, where you get 6,000 citizens to vote to cancel somebody's career.

00:05:02.000 But then Pericles moved the treasury from the island of Delos to Athens.

00:05:07.000 He's borrowing from it.

00:05:08.000 He's getting them in debt.

00:05:10.000 And his family members are being involved in corruption.

00:05:14.000 And when he's losing popularity, That there's talk of ostracizing him, which would be like the invoking of the 25th Amendment.

00:05:23.000 And he didn't want to give up power.

00:05:24.000 And so he intentionally let relations with Sparta deteriorate to get into a war.

00:05:31.000 He wanted to get into like a NATO war.

00:05:35.000 Why?

00:05:35.000 Because then people would stop trying to criticize him and they would want a strong leader.

00:05:40.000 So that became the pattern.

00:05:41.000 Matter of fact, it's the theme of the movie Wag the Dog with Robert De Niro and Dustin Hoffman.

00:05:48.000 When a leader is becoming unpopular and there's talk of wanting to get rid of him, then his next response is to let the country get into a war.

00:05:58.000 So I'm hoping that's not the case with Biden.

00:06:03.000 But I do think that there are three scenarios.

00:06:07.000 When a tyrant has two tools in his toolbox, fraud and force, fraud is they lie to the public and the public allows themselves to believe the lies.

00:06:16.000 But when they don't believe the lies anymore and the fraud's not working, the next is force.

00:06:22.000 And so they purge the military and the Department of Justice of anybody with virtue and they begin to use that as an enforcement arm.

00:06:30.000 And then there's the three steps.

00:06:32.000 They target their political opponents.

00:06:35.000 The second is they create insurrections within the country and blame them on their political opponents and then use the military and law enforcement to get rid of their opponents.

00:06:46.000 But then the third thing is you allow the country to get into a foreign war.

00:06:50.000 So those are the scenarios when a leader becomes unpopular and doesn't want to get out of office.

00:06:55.000 So Bill, if Kamala Harris were then to become President via the 25th Amendment, who then becomes Vice President? 0.91

00:07:00.000 their only other tool in their toolbox.

00:07:02.000 So Bill, if Kamala Harris were then to become president via the 25th Amendment, who then 1.00

00:07:08.000 becomes vice president?

00:07:09.000 Does she get to choose who the vice president is based on the Nixon-era law? 0.93

00:07:14.000 Yeah.

00:07:15.000 So that's when they think, well, would she pick a Gavin Newsom or somebody like that?

00:07:20.000 But yeah, it's up for grabs as to who could be picked as the vice president.

00:07:25.000 Yeah, Gavin Newsom's not really being discussed too much right now.

00:07:29.000 I want to get now to Independence Day weekend and the significance... Or Michelle. 0.52

00:07:34.000 It could always be Michelle Obama.

00:07:36.000 That one is like looming in the background here.

00:07:40.000 The greatest revolution that has ever taken place in world's history.

00:07:44.000 That's what Ronald Reagan said.

00:07:46.000 Tell us about the historical and the moral significance of July 4th, 1776.

00:07:51.000 Yeah, this is a big deal that we don't appreciate until we zoom out and look at all the history.

00:07:57.000 So a few years ago, I had a project and I thought I would read through every single century of recorded human history to find out what the most common form of government is.

00:08:06.000 And it's gangs.

00:08:08.000 Right?

00:08:08.000 That's the default setting.

00:08:09.000 Gangs, clans, tribes.

00:08:11.000 And so if we were to get rid of all police tomorrow, you'd have gangs.

00:08:13.000 And a gang leader with enough weapons, we call a king.

00:08:17.000 Or a pharaoh, or a Caesar, or a Kaiser, a sultan czar.

00:08:20.000 And as the centuries go on, the weapons improve, and the kingdoms get bigger.

00:08:24.000 So instead of Cain killing Abel with a rock, they can kill with a bronze weapon, an iron weapon, a phalanx spear, a scimitar sword, gunpowder, the English longbow, the Vikings had boats with low keels.

00:08:33.000 The weapon improves, but it's that same fallen nature of Cain killing Abel.

00:08:37.000 And with technological advancements, kings can attract more people.

00:08:42.000 To BC, Augustus Caesar wanted a worldwide tracking system.

00:08:45.000 It was called the census, a tax enrollment.

00:08:48.000 If he could have had access to 5G and cell phones and facial recognition software, I bet he'd have attempted to use that.

00:08:54.000 And so these kingdoms keep getting bigger and bigger until finally the King of England ...had the biggest empire that planet Earth had ever seen.

00:09:01.000 The sun never set on the British Empire.

00:09:04.000 He had India, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, British Guiana, Canada, Barbados, Bermuda, Jamaica, and America.

00:09:10.000 The King of England was a globalist.

00:09:11.000 He was the Klaus Schwab George Soros of the day.

00:09:14.000 He was a one-world government guy with him at the top.

00:09:16.000 And America's founders decided they didn't like one-world government guys telling us what to do.

00:09:20.000 So they broke away and flipped it and made the people the king.

00:09:25.000 So the word citizen is Greek.

00:09:26.000 It means co-ruler, co-sovereign, co-king.

00:09:30.000 So kings have subjects who are subjected to their will.

00:09:33.000 Democracies and republics have citizens.

00:09:35.000 So our founders, for all their faults, gave us a present.

00:09:38.000 And that present is we get to be the king of our life and all of us together are the king of the country.

00:09:42.000 What makes America great is it's a polarity change in the flow of power on planet Earth.

00:09:48.000 Instead of top down, it's bottom up.

00:09:51.000 And I go through, I did a new book called Silence Equals Consent, right?

00:09:54.000 But I go through that the founders got their idea from the New England pastors who got their idea from the Bible, what part of the Bible that first 400 years out of Egypt before King Saul.

00:10:05.000 Right.

00:10:05.000 So around 1400 BC, you have millions of Israelites come out of Egypt and for four centuries, no king.

00:10:12.000 The total anomaly.

00:10:13.000 And it works because every citizen is taught the law and personally accountable to God to follow it.

00:10:19.000 And so this Hebrew Republic was modeled in New England with the Puritans and they taught Hebrew at Yale and Harvard.

00:10:25.000 But then they stopped teaching the law in ancient Israel. 0.96

00:10:28.000 And he got sodomites banging on doors and concubines being raped to death. 0.92

00:10:32.000 And they all go to Samuel the prophet and they say, this self-government's not working. 0.98

00:10:36.000 We want to be like the other countries. 0.99

00:10:37.000 We want a King.

00:10:39.000 And Samuel cries and the Lord tells him they didn't reject you.

00:10:42.000 They rejected me.

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00:11:48.000 So, the kings of England look to the Bible for their authority, but they look to the King Saul and On part of the Bible, the divine right of kings, God chose me and I'm going to rule through fear, I got an army.

00:12:00.000 The Calvinist Puritans and Baptists and Presbyterians and Quakers that founded the colonies in America, they look to the pre-King Saul part of the Bible.

00:12:07.000 Both of them are looking to the Bible for their authority, but one is King Saul and On, and the other is pre-King Saul, the Hebrew Republic.

00:12:13.000 Why is this important?

00:12:14.000 Romans 13, which is the verse that says, let everyone be subject to the governing authorities.

00:12:19.000 Romans 13 is understood differently in a monarchy versus a republic.

00:12:24.000 In a monarchy, subjects submit to the king.

00:12:28.000 In a republic, the citizens are the king.

00:12:31.000 Right.

00:12:32.000 And so the, the pastors say, Oh, he's got to submit to the government.

00:12:35.000 They need to pick up and go to China.

00:12:36.000 Right.

00:12:37.000 Or when Nebuchadnezzar blows the trumpet, they just bow.

00:12:39.000 But in America, we're the pre-King Saul part of the Bible.

00:12:42.000 We're where the citizens are accountable to God and we're all taught the law and we all have a conscience.

00:12:48.000 So, so anyway, so we were breaking away from King George III, the most powerful King that the planet had ever seen.

00:12:55.000 He was a globalist.

00:12:57.000 And they knew that people in the future might say, well, you did something wrong by rebelling.

00:13:03.000 So they listed 27 reasons, 27 abuses that the king was effectively un-kinging himself, right?

00:13:12.000 That was John Calvin said, when the kings stop acting according to the Bible, they basically delegitimize their authority.

00:13:23.000 And so these 27 reasons listed in the declaration include, A two-tiered justice system that he has made judges dependent on his will alone.

00:13:34.000 And the king had weaponized bureaucracy.

00:13:37.000 He has erected a multitude of offices and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people and eat out our substance.

00:13:46.000 The king imposed martial law he's kept among us in times of peace, standing armies, subjected us to jurisdiction of foreign to our constitution, quartering troops, and then the king targeted political opposition.

00:13:59.000 For depriving us in many cases of the benefit of trial by jury.

00:14:03.000 For establishing an arbitrary government.

00:14:06.000 For altering fundamentally the form of our government.

00:14:10.000 And then the king turned law enforcement and military against his own subjects.

00:14:16.000 Could you imagine a government doing that?

00:14:17.000 He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our town, destroyed our lives.

00:14:21.000 He is this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries.

00:14:25.000 And then he created domestic insurrection.

00:14:30.000 He has excited domestic insurrection among us, has endeavored to bring the inhabitants of our frontiers and merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes, and conditions. 1.00

00:14:42.000 So the Americans and the Indians were getting along, but the British come in and stir them up to attack.

00:14:47.000 Could you imagine a foreign government wanting to break America into groups and then stir them up to attack each other and cause this division? 0.72

00:14:54.000 Right?

00:14:56.000 Karl Marx eventually called this critical theory, where you break a country into groups and pit the groups against each other.

00:15:02.000 So Thomas Jefferson was 33 years old when he wrote his draft of the Declaration of Independence.

00:15:09.000 33 years old!

00:15:10.000 And now in his original draft, Jefferson condemned the king for slavery.

00:15:17.000 The king was a part owner of the Royal African Company, and so many colonies wanted to get rid of slavery, but the king wouldn't let them because he was making money off it.

00:15:27.000 And so Jefferson writes, the king has waged cruel war against human nature itself

00:15:32.000 in the persons of a distant people who has never offended him,

00:15:35.000 captivating and carrying them into slavery.

00:15:37.000 hemisphere to incur miserable death in their transportation thither, suppressing every 0.99

00:15:42.000 legislative attempt to prohibit or restrain this exorbitant commerce, determining to keep open a

00:15:49.000 market where men should be bought and sold. Unfortunately, South Carolina and Georgia 0.99

00:15:54.000 didn't go along with that. And since the British had just invaded New York, they panicked,

00:15:58.000 and they said, we'll deal with that later. How we wish they would have dealt with it right then.

00:16:04.000 But nevertheless, the idea was we'll break away from the king and we'll

00:16:10.000 wrestle with that problem later, which Lincoln eventually did.

00:16:14.000 Bill, that was an amazing analysis.

00:16:16.000 We're going to ask about the Christian roots of the Declaration.

00:16:20.000 How 55 out of 56 of the signers were Bible-believing, church-attending Christians.

00:16:24.000 I want to get into the roots from Deuteronomy to the Old Testament.

00:16:27.000 You mentioned this, but I really want to get deeper and reject the premise that, oh, the founders were just a bunch of deists.

00:16:33.000 Bill Federer is with us.

00:16:35.000 Name of the book again, Bill?

00:16:36.000 Silence is Consent?

00:16:37.000 Right.

00:16:38.000 Silence equals consent.

00:16:39.000 The sin of omission.

00:16:40.000 Speak now or forever lose your freedom.

00:16:42.000 And it goes through if you're silent at a wedding ceremony, you're given your consent.

00:16:45.000 And if church members are silent when they're killing kids, they're given their consent.

00:16:47.000 And if you're given consent, you're an accessory and you'll be judged.

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00:17:59.000 people say Christianity had nothing to do with the American founding? Well, they haven't read it.

00:18:05.000 Every colony was started by a different Christian denomination.

00:18:08.000 Virginia was Anglican.

00:18:10.000 Massachusetts was Puritan.

00:18:12.000 Rhode Island was Baptist.

00:18:13.000 New York was Dutch Reformed.

00:18:15.000 Delaware and New Jersey were originally Swedish Lutheran.

00:18:18.000 Connecticut and New Hampshire were Congregationalists.

00:18:21.000 Maryland Catholic.

00:18:22.000 Pennsylvania Quaker.

00:18:23.000 And they did not get along.

00:18:24.000 And they'd tar and feather each other's, but then they had to work together against the king.

00:18:29.000 After the revolution, their attitude changed to, we may not always agree on religion, but you are willing to fight and die for my freedom.

00:18:35.000 I need to let you practice your faith.

00:18:37.000 And now the signers of the Declaration, 26 of them were Episcopalian, 11 were Presbyterian, 7 Congregationalist, 2 Lutherans, 2 Dutch Reformed, 2 Methodists, 2 Quakers, 2 Roman Catholics, and Dr. Ben Franklin, who was raised Presbyterian and then began to absent himself from church.

00:18:59.000 But he gave to all the denominations that approached him and he called for prayer at the Constitutional Convention.

00:19:04.000 And so one of the things I did, I read through every colonial charter and every state constitution and every revision and amendment to every state constitution and from the beginning of the state till now.

00:19:19.000 And I was amazed that you in seven, excuse me, nine of the 13 states, you had to be a Protestant Christian to hold state office.

00:19:28.000 In the state constitution, you had to be a Protestant. 0.77

00:19:31.000 Three states were liberal and said all you had to do was be a plain Christian, and then one had zero religious requirements.

00:19:37.000 Rhode Island founded by Baptists.

00:19:39.000 They said if you required someone to be a Christian, they could say they were, even if they weren't, and that would be hypocritical, so just vote for the best Christian person you know.

00:19:47.000 But here's, for example, Delaware.

00:19:49.000 It was the first state to ratify the U.S.

00:19:51.000 Constitution.

00:19:52.000 And it stated in its existing constitution, at the same time it ratified the U.S.

00:19:57.000 Constitution, Delaware said, every person appointed to any office shall subscribe.

00:20:01.000 I profess, profess faith in God, the Father, Jesus Christ, his only son, the Holy Ghost, one God, bless forevermore.

00:20:07.000 And I do acknowledge the scriptures of the Old and New Testament to begin by divine inspiration.

00:20:12.000 Pennsylvania was the second state to ratify the U.S.

00:20:14.000 Constitution.

00:20:15.000 At that exact time, its constitution, that was signed by Ben Franklin, said,

00:20:22.000 Every member before he takes his seat shall subscribe.

00:20:25.000 I do believe in one God, Creator and Governor of the universe,

00:20:28.000 Rewarder of the good, the Punisher of the wicked.

00:20:30.000 And I do acknowledge the scriptures of the Old and New Testament to be given by divine inspiration.

00:20:36.000 Ben Franklin signed them.

00:20:37.000 You not only had to lay your hand on a Bible to swear into office, you had to swear you believed in the Bible.

00:20:44.000 New Jersey was the third state to ratify the U.S.

00:20:46.000 Constitution.

00:20:46.000 At that exact time, its Constitution said all persons professing a belief in the faith of any Protestant sect S.E.C.T.

00:20:56.000 shall demean themselves peacefully, shall be capable of being elected.

00:20:58.000 Georgia was the fourth state in its 1777 Constitution.

00:21:01.000 Representatives shall be chosen out of each county, and they shall be of the Protestant religion.

00:21:06.000 Connecticut kept its original colonial charter, which talked about the free fruition of liberties such as Christianity would call for.

00:21:16.000 Massachusetts, the sixth state to ratify the Constitution.

00:21:19.000 It says any person, and John Adams wrote this, by the way, and it is Massachusetts state constitution was adopted in 1780, seven years before the U.S.

00:21:30.000 Constitution.

00:21:31.000 So it legally is the oldest still functioning constitution in world history.

00:21:38.000 So John Adams wrote it, it says, any person before he executes the duty of his office shall subscribe.

00:21:43.000 I declare that I believe the Christian religion and have a firm persuasion of its truth, and the legislature shall authorize the support and maintenance of public Protestant teachers of piety, religion, and morality.

00:21:55.000 That was the beginning of the public school system.

00:21:58.000 It was the state authorizing public Protestant teachers of piety, religion, and morality.

00:22:03.000 Maryland, which was originally Catholic, then it broadened In 1776, the state constitution said no other test is required than an oath of support to the state and a declaration of belief in the Christian religion.

00:22:18.000 Now they thought that was pretty generous, right?

00:22:21.000 Because before then you had to be Anglican and they were discriminated against the Catholics who founded the colony.

00:22:28.000 Then Maryland changed it in 1851 to allow Jews to hold office.

00:22:33.000 And then here's South Carolina.

00:22:35.000 It was the eighth state to ratify the Constitution.

00:22:39.000 And in its 1778 state constitution says no person shall be eligible for a seat unless he be of the Protestant religion.

00:22:47.000 The Christian Protestant religion shall be deemed the established religion of the state.

00:22:52.000 People say, well, they wanted America to be a Christian. 0.94

00:22:54.000 Why didn't they just establish a Christian? 0.98

00:22:56.000 Well, South Carolina did.

00:22:57.000 It says right there, the Christian Protestant religion shall be deemed the established religion of the state.

00:23:02.000 New Hampshire was the ninth state, 1784 constitution, no person shall be capable of being elected who is not of the Protestant religion.

00:23:09.000 Virginia, the 10th state, it said in its 1776 constitution, it is the duty to practice Christian forbearance, love and charity, one towards each other.

00:23:21.000 And that's still in there.

00:23:22.000 What is licentiousness?

00:23:23.000 Sorry to interrupt, Bill, but that's so important.

00:23:25.000 And the liberty of conscience hereby granted shall not be so construed as to excuse acts

00:23:32.000 of licentiousness.

00:23:33.000 So, licentiousness is such a...

00:23:35.000 What is licentiousness?

00:23:36.000 Sorry to interrupt, Bill, but that's so important.

00:23:38.000 Can you contrast liberty, what one ought to do, versus licentiousness, which is indulgence?

00:23:43.000 We don't use that word licentiousness.

00:23:45.000 It could be most akin to license or indulgence or the lower impulses of the being, please.

00:23:55.000 Avarice.

00:23:56.000 Yeah, licentiousness is understrained immorality.

00:23:59.000 And it's sexual.

00:24:01.000 And so this is the New York Constitution.

00:24:03.000 It says that we've granted freedom of conscience, but that liberty of conscience shall not be so construed as to excuse acts of licentiousness.

00:24:12.000 Today it's flipped.

00:24:14.000 And now they say, well, if you, unless you embrace licentiousness, we're going to discriminate against you.

00:24:21.000 And then North Carolina, I had dinner with their Chief Justice of the North Carolina Supreme Court, Paul Newby, and we were talking state constitutions and he reaffirmed that, yeah, the original 1776 North Carolina Constitution says, no person who shall deny the being of God or the truth of the Protestant religion or the divine authority of the Old or New Testament shall be capable of holding office.

00:24:46.000 And it's still in, The North Carolina Constitution, that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian forbearance, love charity to one another.

00:24:55.000 The Christianity is the first duty of a civilized and Christian state.

00:25:01.000 To care for the poor is the first duty of a civilized and Christian state.

00:25:06.000 Anyway, I could go through them all.

00:25:07.000 John F. Kennedy stated, this country was founded by men and women dedicated to two propositions.

00:25:13.000 First, a strong religious conviction.

00:25:15.000 Secondly, a recognition that this conviction could flourish only under a system of freedom.

00:25:21.000 The Puritans and Pilgrims of my own section at New England, Quakers of Pennsylvania, Catholics of Maryland, Presbyterians of North Carolina, Methodists and Baptists all shared these great traditions.

00:25:32.000 So I've talked to people who've written books on the First Amendment and I said, have you read through the state constitutions?

00:25:39.000 And their face goes blank.

00:25:40.000 It's like, hello, you know, federal constitution, state constitution, laws governing behavior or under state's jurisdiction.

00:25:46.000 It's like, this totally misses them.

00:25:48.000 And when Hugo Black, which was the 1947 Everson case that took religion out of state's jurisdiction and put it under the federal, when he was asked if he had ever read through the debates of the First Amendment, he admitted that he had not.

00:26:06.000 And so he'd only been a police court judge for one year.

00:26:08.000 What did those debates show, Bill?

00:26:10.000 What was the significance of them?

00:26:12.000 Their concern was they didn't want one Christian denomination to be chosen as the national denomination in preference to all the others, which is what many of the colonies had.

00:26:24.000 I mean, there was no Catholic Church in Virginia until 1795 because Catholics were not allowed.

00:26:32.000 In Europe, you had Northern Germany and Sweden were Lutheran.

00:26:40.000 Scotland was Presbyterian.

00:26:42.000 Holland was Dutch Reformed.

00:26:43.000 England was Anglican. 0.57

00:26:45.000 Switzerland was Calvinist.

00:26:47.000 Italy, Spain, France, Austria, Poland were Catholic.

00:26:49.000 Romania was Romanian Orthodox.

00:26:51.000 Russia was Russian Orthodox.

00:26:52.000 Greece was Greek Orthodox.

00:26:54.000 It was one denomination per country.

00:26:57.000 And they were afraid that America was going to pick one denomination, Episcopal, maybe Congregational, you know, maybe Presbyterian.

00:27:05.000 And the states that pushed the most for a First Amendment was Massachusetts and Connecticut.

00:27:13.000 Why?

00:27:13.000 Because they had established the Puritan faith.

00:27:17.000 In Connecticut up until 1818 and in Massachusetts up until 1833.

00:27:21.000 You could not hold office in Massachusetts prior to 1833 unless you were a member of the Congregational Church.

00:27:28.000 So they were afraid that they'd have a federal Walmart come into town and put out of business their mom-and-pop denomination.

00:27:37.000 James Meacham, who was a congressman, he wrote this in 1854.

00:27:44.000 At the adoption of the Constitution, we believe every state, certainly 10 of the 13, provided as regularly for the support of the church as for the support of the government.

00:27:54.000 Down to the Revolution, every colony did sustain religion.

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00:28:56.000 Bill, when they call us a Christian nationalist, how shall we counter?

00:29:01.000 Nationalism is the opposite of globalism.

00:29:05.000 There are people called globalists that want to won world government.

00:29:08.000 One is Brock Chisholm, the first director of the World Health Organization.

00:29:14.000 And he said, to achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their national patriotism.

00:29:21.000 So globalists hate people that want to preserve their nations.

00:29:25.000 And second is nationalism depends on the nation.

00:29:29.000 So in socialist nations like the USSR or Nazi, which stood for National Socialist Workers Party, there's no individual rights.

00:29:37.000 Nationalism is bad.

00:29:39.000 But in our nation, we're guaranteeing individual rights, right?

00:29:43.000 Freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of conscience, freedom of right to trial by a jury of your peers, freedom to possess arms and defend yourself.

00:29:51.000 And so to top it all off, we're a government from the consent of the governed.

00:29:55.000 So we get to be in charge.

00:29:56.000 That's sort of a good thing.

00:29:57.000 So nationalism is bad in other countries, socialist countries, and in our country, it's good to want to preserve our freedoms.

00:30:03.000 And then thirdly, Christian nationalism used to be called Christian patriotism.

00:30:08.000 I have a no webservers 1828 dictionary.

00:30:11.000 The word nationalism is not in there.

00:30:13.000 The word patriotism is level one country.

00:30:16.000 And every leader encouraged it.

00:30:18.000 George Washington at Valley Forge said, to the distinguished character of patriot, it should be our highest glory to laud the more distinguished character of Christian.

00:30:26.000 Lincoln's inaugural, he said, intelligence, patriotism, Christianity are still competent to adjust in the best way our present difficulty.

00:30:33.000 He mentions patriotism and Christianity right next to each other in his inaugural.

00:30:38.000 You have FDR passing out Gideon's New Testaments and Book of Psalms to all the soldiers in World War II.

00:30:44.000 And he says, as Commander-in-Chief, I take pleasure in commending the reading of the Bible to all who serve in the Armed Forces.

00:30:49.000 I'd love for the mainstream media to call Franklin Roosevelt a Christian nationalist.

00:30:54.000 And then Eisenhower, 1954, said, any group that awakens us as a dedicated patriotic group That can take the Bible in one hand, the flag in the other, and march ahead.

00:31:05.000 And even in 1965, 93% of Americans identified themselves as Christian.

00:31:12.000 1965, 93% of Americans identified as Christian.

00:31:16.000 69% Protestant, 24% Catholic, and then 3% of the country was Jewish.

00:31:20.000 So it was no problem being a Christian, wanting to defend your nation, but the left is doing something called projection.

00:31:25.000 They're blaming us for what they're doing.

00:31:27.000 They're wanting to set up a woke nationalism, Right?

00:31:30.000 They're wanting to send a transgendered nationalist.

00:31:33.000 They want Satanist theocracy. 0.96

00:31:34.000 And so they're accusing us.

00:31:36.000 It's like Potiphar's wife in the Bible accused Joseph of lusting after her when she was lusting after him.

00:31:42.000 And so, you know, why did they call pro-life organizations anti-abortion?

00:31:47.000 There's no pro-life group that puts on their sign anti-abortion group.

00:31:50.000 No, they put pro-life.

00:31:51.000 But every single news article will call pro-life people anti-abortion.

00:31:55.000 Why do they do that?

00:31:56.000 Negative word association.

00:31:58.000 Why do they call Christian patriots, Christian nationalists?

00:32:00.000 Negative word association.

00:32:02.000 And the people that are behind this are Rockefeller Soros.

00:32:07.000 They're giving money to woke seminaries to teach Christians not to get involved. 0.56

00:32:11.000 Yet at the same time, they're giving money to LGBTQ activists to get them involved.

00:32:16.000 What a great strategy, right?

00:32:19.000 Shame your opponents into not being involved by smearing them with a derogatory boogeyman name.

00:32:25.000 At the same time, they're giving money to get their supporters involved.

00:32:28.000 And so those are the three things.

00:32:31.000 Nationalism is the opposite of globalism.

00:32:33.000 Nationalism depends on the nation, and Christian nationalism used to be called Christian patriotism, and every leader used to be in favor of it.

00:32:39.000 Thank you so much, Bill.

00:32:40.000 That was wonderful.

00:32:41.000 Happy Independence Day, Bill, and we always turn to you on these patriotic holiday weekends.

00:32:47.000 Thank you.

00:32:48.000 Thank you.

00:32:49.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:32:50.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:32:52.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - July 04, 2024

America's Christian Founding

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