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00:01:50.000So when we think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do to lay these wires, what we need to do to create these jobs.
00:02:00.000And there is such great significance to the passage of time.
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00:03:08.000So Bill, let me ask you, you're a historian, a master historian.
00:03:12.000In American history, has there ever been a president removed from office that you know of that was running for re-election in such a fashion that we're about to see?
00:03:24.000We do have 1919 when Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat, had a stroke and his wife, Edith Boling Galt, was the liaison.
00:03:34.000So the senators would come to the bedroom door and she would get the message and supposedly go in and talk to him, but come back and tell the answer.
00:03:44.000And nobody knows if he was really cognizant or if she was just running the country for two years.
00:03:50.000But he wasn't running for re-election, so this is definitely a unique situation.
00:03:56.000So Bill, they're talking about potentially the 25th Amendment.
00:03:59.000What is the origination of the 25th Amendment and how would that potentially work if it was invoked against Joe Biden?
00:04:05.000Yeah, well, it would be the cabinet deciding that he was no longer capable of fulfilling the duties of the office, and they would vote him out, and then the vice president would be there, and if she didn't fulfill the role, then it would be the Speaker of the House, and the succession was put in place after The Nixon situation of Watergate, but it is a removal of the president.
00:04:37.000You know, one of the things I've looked at is Athens in 430 BC had a leader named Pericles.
00:04:49.000And he tried to impeach his competitor, Simone, twice.
00:04:55.000And that was called ostracizing, where you get 6,000 citizens to vote to cancel somebody's career.
00:05:02.000But then Pericles moved the treasury from the island of Delos to Athens.
00:05:41.000Matter of fact, it's the theme of the movie Wag the Dog with Robert De Niro and Dustin Hoffman.
00:05:48.000When a leader is becoming unpopular and there's talk of wanting to get rid of him, then his next response is to let the country get into a war.
00:05:58.000So I'm hoping that's not the case with Biden.
00:06:03.000But I do think that there are three scenarios.
00:06:07.000When a tyrant has two tools in his toolbox, fraud and force, fraud is they lie to the public and the public allows themselves to believe the lies.
00:06:16.000But when they don't believe the lies anymore and the fraud's not working, the next is force.
00:06:22.000And so they purge the military and the Department of Justice of anybody with virtue and they begin to use that as an enforcement arm.
00:06:32.000They target their political opponents.
00:06:35.000The second is they create insurrections within the country and blame them on their political opponents and then use the military and law enforcement to get rid of their opponents.
00:06:46.000But then the third thing is you allow the country to get into a foreign war.
00:06:50.000So those are the scenarios when a leader becomes unpopular and doesn't want to get out of office.
00:06:55.000So Bill, if Kamala Harris were then to become President via the 25th Amendment, who then becomes Vice President?
00:07:00.000their only other tool in their toolbox.
00:07:02.000So Bill, if Kamala Harris were then to become president via the 25th Amendment, who then
00:07:46.000Tell us about the historical and the moral significance of July 4th, 1776.
00:07:51.000Yeah, this is a big deal that we don't appreciate until we zoom out and look at all the history.
00:07:57.000So a few years ago, I had a project and I thought I would read through every single century of recorded human history to find out what the most common form of government is.
00:08:11.000And so if we were to get rid of all police tomorrow, you'd have gangs.
00:08:13.000And a gang leader with enough weapons, we call a king.
00:08:17.000Or a pharaoh, or a Caesar, or a Kaiser, a sultan czar.
00:08:20.000And as the centuries go on, the weapons improve, and the kingdoms get bigger.
00:08:24.000So instead of Cain killing Abel with a rock, they can kill with a bronze weapon, an iron weapon, a phalanx spear, a scimitar sword, gunpowder, the English longbow, the Vikings had boats with low keels.
00:08:33.000The weapon improves, but it's that same fallen nature of Cain killing Abel.
00:08:37.000And with technological advancements, kings can attract more people.
00:08:42.000To BC, Augustus Caesar wanted a worldwide tracking system.
00:08:45.000It was called the census, a tax enrollment.
00:08:48.000If he could have had access to 5G and cell phones and facial recognition software, I bet he'd have attempted to use that.
00:08:54.000And so these kingdoms keep getting bigger and bigger until finally the King of England ...had the biggest empire that planet Earth had ever seen.
00:09:01.000The sun never set on the British Empire.
00:09:04.000He had India, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, British Guiana, Canada, Barbados, Bermuda, Jamaica, and America.
00:09:51.000And I go through, I did a new book called Silence Equals Consent, right?
00:09:54.000But I go through that the founders got their idea from the New England pastors who got their idea from the Bible, what part of the Bible that first 400 years out of Egypt before King Saul.
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00:11:48.000So, the kings of England look to the Bible for their authority, but they look to the King Saul and On part of the Bible, the divine right of kings, God chose me and I'm going to rule through fear, I got an army.
00:12:00.000The Calvinist Puritans and Baptists and Presbyterians and Quakers that founded the colonies in America, they look to the pre-King Saul part of the Bible.
00:12:07.000Both of them are looking to the Bible for their authority, but one is King Saul and On, and the other is pre-King Saul, the Hebrew Republic.
00:12:57.000And they knew that people in the future might say, well, you did something wrong by rebelling.
00:13:03.000So they listed 27 reasons, 27 abuses that the king was effectively un-kinging himself, right?
00:13:12.000That was John Calvin said, when the kings stop acting according to the Bible, they basically delegitimize their authority.
00:13:23.000And so these 27 reasons listed in the declaration include, A two-tiered justice system that he has made judges dependent on his will alone.
00:13:34.000And the king had weaponized bureaucracy.
00:13:37.000He has erected a multitude of offices and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people and eat out our substance.
00:13:46.000The king imposed martial law he's kept among us in times of peace, standing armies, subjected us to jurisdiction of foreign to our constitution, quartering troops, and then the king targeted political opposition.
00:13:59.000For depriving us in many cases of the benefit of trial by jury.
00:14:03.000For establishing an arbitrary government.
00:14:06.000For altering fundamentally the form of our government.
00:14:10.000And then the king turned law enforcement and military against his own subjects.
00:14:16.000Could you imagine a government doing that?
00:14:21.000He is this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries.
00:14:25.000And then he created domestic insurrection.
00:14:30.000He has excited domestic insurrection among us, has endeavored to bring the inhabitants of our frontiers and merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes, and conditions.
00:14:42.000So the Americans and the Indians were getting along, but the British come in and stir them up to attack.
00:14:47.000Could you imagine a foreign government wanting to break America into groups and then stir them up to attack each other and cause this division?
00:15:10.000And now in his original draft, Jefferson condemned the king for slavery.
00:15:17.000The king was a part owner of the Royal African Company, and so many colonies wanted to get rid of slavery, but the king wouldn't let them because he was making money off it.
00:15:27.000And so Jefferson writes, the king has waged cruel war against human nature itself
00:15:32.000in the persons of a distant people who has never offended him,
00:15:35.000captivating and carrying them into slavery.
00:15:37.000hemisphere to incur miserable death in their transportation thither, suppressing every
00:15:42.000legislative attempt to prohibit or restrain this exorbitant commerce, determining to keep open a
00:15:49.000market where men should be bought and sold. Unfortunately, South Carolina and Georgia
00:15:54.000didn't go along with that. And since the British had just invaded New York, they panicked,
00:15:58.000and they said, we'll deal with that later. How we wish they would have dealt with it right then.
00:16:04.000But nevertheless, the idea was we'll break away from the king and we'll
00:16:10.000wrestle with that problem later, which Lincoln eventually did.
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00:17:59.000people say Christianity had nothing to do with the American founding? Well, they haven't read it.
00:18:05.000Every colony was started by a different Christian denomination.
00:18:24.000And they'd tar and feather each other's, but then they had to work together against the king.
00:18:29.000After the revolution, their attitude changed to, we may not always agree on religion, but you are willing to fight and die for my freedom.
00:18:35.000I need to let you practice your faith.
00:18:37.000And now the signers of the Declaration, 26 of them were Episcopalian, 11 were Presbyterian, 7 Congregationalist, 2 Lutherans, 2 Dutch Reformed, 2 Methodists, 2 Quakers, 2 Roman Catholics, and Dr. Ben Franklin, who was raised Presbyterian and then began to absent himself from church.
00:18:59.000But he gave to all the denominations that approached him and he called for prayer at the Constitutional Convention.
00:19:04.000And so one of the things I did, I read through every colonial charter and every state constitution and every revision and amendment to every state constitution and from the beginning of the state till now.
00:19:19.000And I was amazed that you in seven, excuse me, nine of the 13 states, you had to be a Protestant Christian to hold state office.
00:19:28.000In the state constitution, you had to be a Protestant.
00:19:31.000Three states were liberal and said all you had to do was be a plain Christian, and then one had zero religious requirements.
00:19:39.000They said if you required someone to be a Christian, they could say they were, even if they weren't, and that would be hypocritical, so just vote for the best Christian person you know.
00:20:46.000At that exact time, its Constitution said all persons professing a belief in the faith of any Protestant sect S.E.C.T.
00:20:56.000shall demean themselves peacefully, shall be capable of being elected.
00:20:58.000Georgia was the fourth state in its 1777 Constitution.
00:21:01.000Representatives shall be chosen out of each county, and they shall be of the Protestant religion.
00:21:06.000Connecticut kept its original colonial charter, which talked about the free fruition of liberties such as Christianity would call for.
00:21:16.000Massachusetts, the sixth state to ratify the Constitution.
00:21:19.000It says any person, and John Adams wrote this, by the way, and it is Massachusetts state constitution was adopted in 1780, seven years before the U.S.
00:21:31.000So it legally is the oldest still functioning constitution in world history.
00:21:38.000So John Adams wrote it, it says, any person before he executes the duty of his office shall subscribe.
00:21:43.000I declare that I believe the Christian religion and have a firm persuasion of its truth, and the legislature shall authorize the support and maintenance of public Protestant teachers of piety, religion, and morality.
00:21:55.000That was the beginning of the public school system.
00:21:58.000It was the state authorizing public Protestant teachers of piety, religion, and morality.
00:22:03.000Maryland, which was originally Catholic, then it broadened In 1776, the state constitution said no other test is required than an oath of support to the state and a declaration of belief in the Christian religion.
00:22:18.000Now they thought that was pretty generous, right?
00:22:21.000Because before then you had to be Anglican and they were discriminated against the Catholics who founded the colony.
00:22:28.000Then Maryland changed it in 1851 to allow Jews to hold office.
00:22:57.000It says right there, the Christian Protestant religion shall be deemed the established religion of the state.
00:23:02.000New Hampshire was the ninth state, 1784 constitution, no person shall be capable of being elected who is not of the Protestant religion.
00:23:09.000Virginia, the 10th state, it said in its 1776 constitution, it is the duty to practice Christian forbearance, love and charity, one towards each other.
00:24:01.000And so this is the New York Constitution.
00:24:03.000It says that we've granted freedom of conscience, but that liberty of conscience shall not be so construed as to excuse acts of licentiousness.
00:24:14.000And now they say, well, if you, unless you embrace licentiousness, we're going to discriminate against you.
00:24:21.000And then North Carolina, I had dinner with their Chief Justice of the North Carolina Supreme Court, Paul Newby, and we were talking state constitutions and he reaffirmed that, yeah, the original 1776 North Carolina Constitution says, no person who shall deny the being of God or the truth of the Protestant religion or the divine authority of the Old or New Testament shall be capable of holding office.
00:24:46.000And it's still in, The North Carolina Constitution, that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian forbearance, love charity to one another.
00:24:55.000The Christianity is the first duty of a civilized and Christian state.
00:25:01.000To care for the poor is the first duty of a civilized and Christian state.
00:25:15.000Secondly, a recognition that this conviction could flourish only under a system of freedom.
00:25:21.000The Puritans and Pilgrims of my own section at New England, Quakers of Pennsylvania, Catholics of Maryland, Presbyterians of North Carolina, Methodists and Baptists all shared these great traditions.
00:25:32.000So I've talked to people who've written books on the First Amendment and I said, have you read through the state constitutions?
00:25:48.000And when Hugo Black, which was the 1947 Everson case that took religion out of state's jurisdiction and put it under the federal, when he was asked if he had ever read through the debates of the First Amendment, he admitted that he had not.
00:26:06.000And so he'd only been a police court judge for one year.
00:26:12.000Their concern was they didn't want one Christian denomination to be chosen as the national denomination in preference to all the others, which is what many of the colonies had.
00:26:24.000I mean, there was no Catholic Church in Virginia until 1795 because Catholics were not allowed.
00:26:32.000In Europe, you had Northern Germany and Sweden were Lutheran.
00:27:13.000Because they had established the Puritan faith.
00:27:17.000In Connecticut up until 1818 and in Massachusetts up until 1833.
00:27:21.000You could not hold office in Massachusetts prior to 1833 unless you were a member of the Congregational Church.
00:27:28.000So they were afraid that they'd have a federal Walmart come into town and put out of business their mom-and-pop denomination.
00:27:37.000James Meacham, who was a congressman, he wrote this in 1854.
00:27:44.000At the adoption of the Constitution, we believe every state, certainly 10 of the 13, provided as regularly for the support of the church as for the support of the government.
00:27:54.000Down to the Revolution, every colony did sustain religion.
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00:29:39.000But in our nation, we're guaranteeing individual rights, right?
00:29:43.000Freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of conscience, freedom of right to trial by a jury of your peers, freedom to possess arms and defend yourself.
00:29:51.000And so to top it all off, we're a government from the consent of the governed.
00:30:18.000George Washington at Valley Forge said, to the distinguished character of patriot, it should be our highest glory to laud the more distinguished character of Christian.
00:30:26.000Lincoln's inaugural, he said, intelligence, patriotism, Christianity are still competent to adjust in the best way our present difficulty.
00:30:33.000He mentions patriotism and Christianity right next to each other in his inaugural.
00:30:38.000You have FDR passing out Gideon's New Testaments and Book of Psalms to all the soldiers in World War II.
00:30:44.000And he says, as Commander-in-Chief, I take pleasure in commending the reading of the Bible to all who serve in the Armed Forces.
00:30:49.000I'd love for the mainstream media to call Franklin Roosevelt a Christian nationalist.
00:30:54.000And then Eisenhower, 1954, said, any group that awakens us as a dedicated patriotic group That can take the Bible in one hand, the flag in the other, and march ahead.
00:31:05.000And even in 1965, 93% of Americans identified themselves as Christian.
00:31:12.0001965, 93% of Americans identified as Christian.
00:31:16.00069% Protestant, 24% Catholic, and then 3% of the country was Jewish.
00:31:20.000So it was no problem being a Christian, wanting to defend your nation, but the left is doing something called projection.
00:31:25.000They're blaming us for what they're doing.
00:31:27.000They're wanting to set up a woke nationalism, Right?
00:31:30.000They're wanting to send a transgendered nationalist.
00:32:31.000Nationalism is the opposite of globalism.
00:32:33.000Nationalism depends on the nation, and Christian nationalism used to be called Christian patriotism, and every leader used to be in favor of it.