The Charlie Kirk Show - America's Fake New Religions: Charlie LIVE at Texas Christian University

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, TCU, Texas Christian University.

00:00:03.000 I talk about the five fake religions spreading across the country. 1.00

00:00:07.000 And then I take questions from the audience.

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00:00:26.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:27.000 Here we go.

00:00:28.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:29.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:32.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:35.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:38.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:39.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:40.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:00:42.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:00:49.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:00:57.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:00.000 Please take a seat.

00:01:01.000 Thank you, everybody.

00:01:02.000 Wow, what a group.

00:01:04.000 You got to tell you, by the way, I wore my TCU tie just for the record.

00:01:08.000 Okay.

00:01:11.000 I want to tell you about TCU a couple things.

00:01:14.000 Boy, was I cheering for you guys in the national title game.

00:01:16.000 I got to tell you.

00:01:17.000 I was really, I mean, you guys, but honestly, as someone who is a fan of a team far from here that you would be like, why are you a fan of Oregon Ducks?

00:01:25.000 Because my whole family went there.

00:01:26.000 Just getting the national championship is not some sort of consolation prize.

00:01:30.000 And you beat Michigan, which was hilarious to watch, honestly.

00:01:32.000 So you guys should be very proud of what that football team did.

00:01:36.000 That was an amazing, amazing.

00:01:37.000 I mean that.

00:01:38.000 That's an amazing thing.

00:01:41.000 And it really inspired a lot of people, even though the final game was not what we wanted it to be.

00:01:47.000 I want to also say another thing about TCU.

00:01:49.000 TCU wins an award tonight for the easiest to work with school on our whole campus tour.

00:01:54.000 So good job, TCU.

00:01:58.000 I got to tell you, we had to fight for every inch on some of these campus stops.

00:02:04.000 You know, it is literally at UC Davis.

00:02:06.000 I don't know if you saw the videos of our mostly peaceful campus tour stop up at UC Davis.

00:02:11.000 They're coming with weapons and they're banging down doors and they're smashing windows and assaulting police officers.

00:02:17.000 And I don't think we had a protester here tonight.

00:02:19.000 Did we have a pro maybe there's one here tonight?

00:02:21.000 We'll meet them and say hello.

00:02:23.000 But we had legions of them.

00:02:25.000 You don't look like a protester, but that's okay.

00:02:29.000 Yeah, okay.

00:02:30.000 He has a MAGA hat on and he's calling himself a protester.

00:02:35.000 But you have done Texas very well.

00:02:37.000 I have to say, this is a much bigger crowd and a warmer welcome than when I went to UT Austin last semester.

00:02:43.000 And just saying.

00:02:49.000 And you have a better football team than them, which really bothers them.

00:02:52.000 So I see I'm already losing people on that.

00:02:57.000 And by the way, this was not planned to make all the volunteers wear burnt orange.

00:03:03.000 I felt very bad about that.

00:03:05.000 Did you see this?

00:03:06.000 I don't know whose sick idea that was, but we're going to go to TCU for a campus stop and make them all wear burnt orange.

00:03:13.000 I saw that.

00:03:14.000 I said, this is not good.

00:03:16.000 By the way, they've done a great job, the Turning Point USA Volunteers.

00:03:19.000 It's not easy putting on an event like this this morning.

00:03:24.000 So I'm going to, I'll talk, I'll talk a little bit, and then I want to do some questions and answers.

00:03:29.000 It's just terrible what happened today in Nashville.

00:03:31.000 We could talk about that if you want.

00:03:33.000 I'm going to probably not very talk about that very much.

00:03:36.000 But obviously, we should have in our thoughts and prayers what's happening there.

00:03:40.000 So I'm going to start that from the outset.

00:03:42.000 And then I'm going to make this out of all of our campus stops and tours, the one where I actually defend Christianity the most.

00:03:50.000 And you might not like that, but if you're a student at TCU, I'm told it's Texas Christian University.

00:03:57.000 So I want to make sure I emphasize that.

00:03:59.000 Somebody told me they're trying to change name.

00:04:00.000 Is that true?

00:04:01.000 Are they really trying to do that?

00:04:02.000 Is that a thing that's being floated?

00:04:04.000 I hear all these things.

00:04:04.000 I don't know.

00:04:05.000 I don't know.

00:04:06.000 I'm not going to really make headlines, right?

00:04:08.000 Somebody just was nodding their head.

00:04:09.000 I don't know.

00:04:09.000 But I think it's important, whether you're a Christian or not tonight, welcome.

00:04:13.000 It's not my point to make the case for Christianity for you tonight.

00:04:16.000 What I am instead going to make the case of if you don't have a nation built on a religion that has a strong tradition, what replaces it is really bad. 0.91

00:04:25.000 That's the argument that I'm going to make tonight, okay?

00:04:27.000 Is the necessity of Christianity?

00:04:30.000 I believe in the truth of Christianity.

00:04:32.000 We could talk about that in question and answer.

00:04:34.000 But if I can't convince you on that, I can hopefully convince you that be careful what happens when all of a sudden you say God is dead.

00:04:42.000 Be careful what replaces it.

00:04:44.000 So tonight I'm going to talk about the raise, the rise of fake religions. 0.96

00:04:48.000 Because the biggest growing group in America, especially ages 18 to 25, 18 to 30, are people that are, they call the nuns, N-O-N-E, not like Catholic nuns, but the nuns.

00:05:00.000 Besides, I have no religious affiliation, right?

00:05:03.000 And it's this nauseating one-liner.

00:05:06.000 And if you're tonight and you believe that, that's fine.

00:05:08.000 We could talk about it.

00:05:09.000 But it's just no one's actually thought about it.

00:05:11.000 I'm spiritual, but not religious.

00:05:12.000 Like, okay, that means you're a narcissist and you really just want to do whatever you want to do in your life.

00:05:17.000 And if you say you're offended after I say that, you've proven my point, by the way.

00:05:21.000 Because you really haven't thought very deeply.

00:05:23.000 What you're saying, though, is that maybe somebody taught me something in a religious school I didn't like.

00:05:26.000 Maybe I have an opinion of religion.

00:05:28.000 That's all fine.

00:05:29.000 But whether you like it or not, you are all inheritors in a Western tradition of things that you consider to be common sense, things that you consider to be normal, that are really the inheritors of a robust Christian tradition.

00:05:42.000 You are all the Christian inheritance that we can call it tonight.

00:05:46.000 And so we are less religious and more secular than any other time in American history.

00:05:52.000 Now, I'm not going to say all of these are because of it, but it certainly, as an opening argument, should press pause and say, wow, does one thing have to do with the other?

00:06:01.000 So we're more religious and more secular.

00:06:03.000 And it is, we have the most depressed generation, suicidal, alcohol-addicted, drug-addicted, and without purpose generation history.

00:06:11.000 Is that all because of the secularization of the country?

00:06:13.000 Probably not.

00:06:14.000 There's a lot of other forces.

00:06:15.000 For example, the lockdowns, which was a massive mistake.

00:06:18.000 One of the biggest mistakes in American history was locking down you, our nation's young people, and to put masks on you and force a vaccine for you to take, even though the virus did not represent a serious threat to your health at all.

00:06:31.000 In fact, you're more likely to die of self-inflicted suicide as a young person.

00:06:34.000 That went up dramatically than from the Fauci Chinese coronavirus.

00:06:38.000 And we decided that we're going to lock you down and make it harder for you to have friendships, go to community gatherings.

00:06:43.000 And many of you were in high school probably when this happened, taking prom, graduation, sports away from you. 1.00

00:06:49.000 Really dumb and stupid idea. 1.00

00:06:50.000 And actually, it's part of one of the rising religions of the reason we did that. 1.00

00:06:54.000 But what I'm going to argue tonight is that when you say that you're not religious, that's okay. 0.99

00:07:01.000 But be careful what you actually end up believing might end up being a pseudo-religion in place of you telling me you're not being religious.

00:07:09.000 And there's a God-shaped hole in everybody's heart.

00:07:12.000 And maybe you're super disciplined and you resist every ideology at all times.

00:07:16.000 But in reality, what we've seen is that as America becomes less Christian, is that we do embrace other ideas that are incredibly poisonous and dangerous and creates moral confusion and deep-seated unhappiness. 0.76

00:07:31.000 Now, so part of this, I'm going to go through the five that I've identified.

00:07:35.000 And again, the perception of Christianity in America is very, very low.

00:07:41.000 And that's too bad.

00:07:42.000 And there's a lot of, you could, you could list a million reasons for it.

00:07:45.000 And you could list all your objections, right?

00:07:47.000 I don't like the megachurches.

00:07:48.000 I don't like the fact that some of these pastors say these things and all that.

00:07:51.000 But that is actually besides the point of two things.

00:07:54.000 Is it true or has it created a better world?

00:07:58.000 And yes, I believe it's true, but the second one I should be able to win all of you over on.

00:08:02.000 Let's take a very simple example.

00:08:04.000 The fact that children are off limits, okay?

00:08:07.000 Where does that idea come from?

00:08:09.000 The fact that an eight-year-old should not have to be preyed on by a teacher, by another person, by a gender-affirming clinician, by somebody that might try to harm them.

00:08:21.000 Most societies, absent a Christian inheritance, do not believe that children are off-limits.

00:08:27.000 For example, the Taliban. 0.97

00:08:28.000 As they say in the Taliban, they have tea boys where they bring them in the afternoon and they rape young boys.

00:08:32.000 If you think that's an exception, happened through Greek times and Roman times.

00:08:36.000 What was different that all of a sudden we consider it to be common sense that if you touch a child, you should then go to prison and maybe even more than prison, the harshest punishment.

00:08:45.000 A very simple teaching from the scriptures that say one of the harshest teachings that Christ said, which is it is better for those of you that have a millstone hung around your neck than for you to touch the least of these. 0.66

00:08:57.000 Now, that is built in through hundreds of years of tradition into our songs, into our traditions, into our basic ancestry that you are raised in a nation that you don't realize it's actually a human norm for people to go after children.

00:09:10.000 And I'll prove it to you in multiple different ways.

00:09:12.000 There's three types of people in the world, okay?

00:09:14.000 There's children, there's predators, and the protectors of children.

00:09:19.000 Those are three types of people.

00:09:20.000 And so in order for predators to not be able to go after children, it takes courageous and heroic people to stand up against them.

00:09:29.000 Whether it be in Exodus, whether it be when Jesus was born, there's story after story of this weird pattern of tyrants that want to kill the firstborn.

00:09:36.000 Now, we would never ever do that in our society.

00:09:38.000 Like we would never have, you know, I don't know, abortions.

00:09:41.000 Like, of course, we're more advanced than that, right?

00:09:44.000 Million abortions a year that we have in our country right now.

00:09:47.000 But the point being is that under a certain rubric, we believe that children should be off limits.

00:09:52.000 And we are losing that, aren't we? 0.99

00:09:54.000 Look at what's happened with these drag queens. 1.00

00:09:56.000 All of a sudden, the state controls your children.

00:09:59.000 As we lose the roots of what actually we consider to be common sense, all of a sudden insane ideas and dangerous and pernicious ideas start to come into our society.

00:10:09.000 I'll give you another example.

00:10:11.000 This example that you should be charitable, that you should give money to the poor.

00:10:15.000 Most nations do not have that as a core value.

00:10:18.000 Where does that come from?

00:10:20.000 As Europe has become more secular, they're one of the least charitable continents on the planet.

00:10:24.000 In Asia, the idea of giving money to the poor, they say, that's my money.

00:10:27.000 Why would I give it there?

00:10:28.000 We are by far the most generous nation in the history of the world.

00:10:32.000 Where does that idea come from?

00:10:34.000 Does it come from the Enlightenment?

00:10:35.000 No.

00:10:36.000 It comes from a Christian teaching that you are your brother's keeper and that you're all made of the image of God.

00:10:41.000 And if you have money, it is not your money.

00:10:43.000 It is God's money.

00:10:44.000 And you must preserve and protect your neighbor from less than desirable circumstances.

00:10:49.000 You might think it's common sense.

00:10:51.000 You might think that it's all that.

00:10:52.000 Oh, people act that way all the time.

00:10:54.000 You are living in the exception and not the rule.

00:10:56.000 And we're quickly losing it.

00:10:58.000 You see, as inheriting this tradition, where all of a sudden we look at it through a new lens and we say, wow, in fact, the less religious we become, the more nasty and the more cruel we come to one another.

00:11:11.000 That's not saying that every religious person is happy and is joyful and is living it out. 0.98

00:11:16.000 That's not the point.

00:11:17.000 The question is, what is the standard?

00:11:19.000 And by where does that standard come from?

00:11:21.000 So we have these five religions that I'm going to talk about, which I think is really important.

00:11:25.000 The first one I think is interesting, which is this new religion of tolerance.

00:11:29.000 Now, tolerance is considered to be a value.

00:11:32.000 I don't know why.

00:11:34.000 And you might say, well, Charlie, that's really mean.

00:11:36.000 Like, I have no tolerance for a man who thinks he's a woman to compete in NCAA championships and win a national title. 0.93

00:11:44.000 I have no tolerance of that.

00:11:50.000 You can be compassionate.

00:11:53.000 You can be loving, but isn't the most loving thing to have standards that the world needs to be ordered in harmony with the natural law?

00:12:01.000 Instead, if you tolerate evil, you are complicit with evil.

00:12:06.000 And we're seeing that they say, well, Charlie, you're not very tolerant of these trans athletes.

00:12:11.000 I just call them what they are, right? 0.98

00:12:13.000 These are men wearing woman face, masquerading as women, trying to appropriate womanhood because they couldn't compete against other men and they're cheaters. 0.97

00:12:25.000 That's what this is.

00:12:31.000 And if I have to see another one of these bumper stickers or signs, you know what I'm saying?

00:12:36.000 I don't know.

00:12:36.000 I mean, I saw them in Highland Park a lot.

00:12:38.000 I don't know if you see them in Fort Worth, but I see them in Highland Park a lot.

00:12:41.000 We believe that Black Lives Matter and science is real.

00:12:43.000 It's like religious incantation, right?

00:12:46.000 And when I see these things, the home is like an $8 million house, right?

00:12:51.000 And this is how you should look at it from now on.

00:12:53.000 You say, that's what happens when Christianity dies in your society. 0.93

00:12:56.000 They drive by that sign every single day, and that is a religious view.

00:13:02.000 It's an incantation, feels good.

00:13:05.000 I'm helping the world.

00:13:07.000 And it's like, I'm sure you've seen it, just nauseating.

00:13:09.000 It goes one after the other, after the other, after the other.

00:13:11.000 And that's somebody trying to fill that hole.

00:13:14.000 And the issue with the religion of tolerance is that it preys on people's best intentions because they don't want to be deemed as hateful.

00:13:24.000 You understand it's not a binary, right?

00:13:26.000 That you could be loving and firm and not hateful of anybody, but also uncompromising in your standards.

00:13:35.000 And that, I believe the religion of tolerance is actually pushed by some of the least tolerant people in our society.

00:13:44.000 It's people that, quite honestly, are very quick to use political power against you or any sort of power against you if you so want.

00:13:53.000 I could talk about that one at length.

00:13:54.000 Let me go to the second one, which I think is really important, which I don't know if this is the case at TCU.

00:13:59.000 We will find out, but it certainly has captured the imagination, the fervor, the energy, the intensity of the most young people I see in college campuses, which is earth worship.

00:14:11.000 And they call it environmentalism, but it's earth worship is what it is, okay?

00:14:16.000 And it's so interesting to me.

00:14:18.000 And so what do these people believe?

00:14:20.000 I don't want to be unfair, right?

00:14:21.000 But let me kind of summarize it the best I can.

00:14:25.000 Nature is how things should be.

00:14:27.000 We are the pollutants of nature.

00:14:29.000 We are the disruptors of nature.

00:14:31.000 And we should stop or cease human activity or minimize it because nature is, you know, really the supreme or is the ideal, right?

00:14:40.000 Am I probably categorizing it best, right?

00:14:42.000 This is espoused by people like Greta Thunberg and Al Gore and John Kerry.

00:14:47.000 Now, hilariously, they used to make fun of Christians for decades saying that the world was going to end.

00:14:53.000 And that's all these people have.

00:14:55.000 The world is going to end in 10 years if you don't stop all fossil fuels.

00:14:59.000 They're lying, but they also, it's all they have is this apocalyptic alarmism.

00:15:04.000 And I believe it's so immoral to tell an eighth grader who is prone to hysteria as it is that the world is going to end unless we stop driving in F-150s.

00:15:15.000 It's not true.

00:15:17.000 And it creates, I think, really, I think it creates incentive structures where they think they have to be an activist.

00:15:25.000 I mean, these poor kids in elementary school and in middle school that are seeing all this imagery that the ice caps are going to disappear and the warming is out of control.

00:15:34.000 When in reality, there's a much more prudent way to approach the topic, which always needs to be very simple.

00:15:40.000 What matters more?

00:15:42.000 And that's why earth worship is so wrong because we have screwed up our morality, which is we put animals above humans every single time.

00:15:49.000 And I will prove it to you right now, okay?

00:15:52.000 I'm sure a lot of you have dogs here, okay?

00:15:54.000 If your dog was drowning or a stranger was drowning, how many of you would save your dog?

00:15:58.000 Raise your hand.

00:16:01.000 Couple hands.

00:16:03.000 Okay.

00:16:07.000 Okay.

00:16:08.000 Just hear me out.

00:16:10.000 And you might say, well, Charlie, what if it was Adolf Hitler?

00:16:14.000 I said, stranger.

00:16:15.000 If it was Hitler, I'd drown him myself, okay? 1.00

00:16:18.000 Stranger, you don't know who it is.

00:16:19.000 Now, let me ask the question for the people that raise their hand.

00:16:22.000 If you were invisibly sitting on the shore and somebody else was there and it was their dog and your sister, who do you hope they would save?

00:16:31.000 You would hope they would save your family member.

00:16:33.000 The point is this: human equality should transcend our own personal attachment to an animal.

00:16:40.000 Humans matter more than animals.

00:16:43.000 Now, you might say, well, Charlie, that's really cruel.

00:16:48.000 You shouldn't torture animals.

00:16:50.000 You should treat animals ethically.

00:16:52.000 But if the decision must be made who comes first, a hierarchy must be developed.

00:16:57.000 This is things that college campuses used to talk about a lot.

00:17:00.000 And they're not.

00:17:00.000 They just kind of impart this, I think, flawed morality, which is very simple.

00:17:05.000 This is why the Bible is the greatest document ever.

00:17:07.000 It's the word of God.

00:17:08.000 It's so clear, right?

00:17:10.000 It's so clear because God is described in four basic ways.

00:17:16.000 God is above nature.

00:17:18.000 He is not nature.

00:17:19.000 He's not in nature.

00:17:20.000 God is personal.

00:17:21.000 He's moral and he's holy.

00:17:23.000 Now, guess what?

00:17:24.000 Outside of the first one, nature is none of those things.

00:17:28.000 Nature is not personal.

00:17:29.000 Nature is not moral.

00:17:31.000 Nature is not holy.

00:17:32.000 Go into the woods and tell me a morality you could derive by just watching animals interact.

00:17:38.000 You can't.

00:17:39.000 You need a transcendent order.

00:17:41.000 Now, maybe you can tell me a morality, which is that the weak should die and suffer and the strongest should survive.

00:17:48.000 I don't want to live in that world.

00:17:50.000 That's how you get Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union very quickly. 0.91

00:17:54.000 You remove that transcendent order, something must fill it.

00:17:58.000 So earth worship is kind of the new thing.

00:18:00.000 And I want to just say this: if you aren't an environmentalist here tonight, that's great.

00:18:04.000 I have no issue with it only if you say that the delta smelt, like in California, or some abstract, abstract tree, matters more than human beings.

00:18:16.000 That's the question.

00:18:17.000 And when it actually comes to fruition, like we see in Europe, where people are freezing and people are having a lower standard of living, or it happens increasingly here with rolling blackouts in America, and they say we can't do this because of some mosquito that you've never heard of might die.

00:18:34.000 That is a bad moral deal.

00:18:36.000 Is that because human beings have a soul that are made in the image of God?

00:18:41.000 Insects do not.

00:18:43.000 And insects should come second or third or fourth even to human flourishing.

00:18:48.000 Okay, the third fake religion as America becomes more secular.

00:18:52.000 This one I could spend a lot of time on.

00:18:55.000 The religion of anti-racism or the cult of diversity.

00:18:58.000 This is a big one.

00:19:00.000 And this one's probably the one that people are the least comfortable talking about.

00:19:04.000 So I'll probably spend the most time on.

00:19:08.000 And I always get these emails.

00:19:10.000 Charlie, how are you so comfortable talking about race?

00:19:12.000 Very simple.

00:19:13.000 You want the magic trick?

00:19:15.000 Don't flinch when they call you a racist.

00:19:18.000 You could talk about whatever you want then.

00:19:18.000 Poof.

00:19:20.000 If you disarm their name-calling, you're free.

00:19:23.000 It's a good lesson for life.

00:19:25.000 It doesn't matter what they call you.

00:19:27.000 It matters, is it true?

00:19:29.000 And if they lie about you, it's completely irrelevant and you laugh and you move on because they're the ones that are probably the bigots anyway.

00:19:36.000 And I'll prove it to you.

00:19:37.000 So the religion of anti-racism is, I mean, we saw it during Floyd Apalooza when we decided to burn our country in the summer of 2020.

00:19:44.000 Like, oh, wow, we're super racist.

00:19:45.000 Let's give $80 billion to BLM and burn Wendy's and crime goes up. 0.74

00:19:49.000 Can't do anything because we're a racist country, obviously, because of one awful incident that happened in Minneapolis.

00:19:55.000 Can't do anything about it.

00:19:56.000 And it was a really disturbing train of events.

00:20:00.000 I have a working theory, which is if it wasn't for the lockdowns and if it wasn't for people being cooped up, I don't think the religion of anti-racism would have spread as much as it did in 2020.

00:20:11.000 I think the lockdowns were a prerequisite, almost a bubbling up effect, almost ready to explode like a volcanic eruption where people were looking for meaning.

00:20:20.000 And all of a sudden, these charlatans, Iberma X. Kendi and Robin D'Angelo and all these fraudsters came on.

00:20:26.000 They said, Well, actually, let me tell you about this new idea that in order to be a progressive, we're going to go back to discrimination and back to prejudicing and back to segregation.

00:20:35.000 Like, wow, that's so profound.

00:20:36.000 Like, come to my $9 million mansion and tell my white friends about that.

00:20:40.000 And that's literally what happened, right?

00:20:42.000 I mean, Robin D'Angelo, who's one of the authors who's in charge of anti-not in charge, but she's a big leader in anti-racism, said last week that black people need to separate themselves from white people.

00:20:52.000 At Columbia University, at Grand Valley State University, they have black-only graduation ceremonies now.

00:20:58.000 At Western Washington University and 100 other schools, they have black-only dormitories. 0.92

00:21:03.000 White people are not allowed. 1.00

00:21:04.000 We are going through the resegregation of America because that's always been their core, right? 0.79

00:21:08.000 Racial harmony and a post-racial America was always something they detested because an America that is not divided on race is much harder to control.

00:21:16.000 An America that's divided on race is much easier to control.

00:21:19.000 So these people are power-hungry. 0.98

00:21:21.000 They also believe in these ridiculous racist abstractions. 0.92

00:21:24.000 But I could go through the cult of the diversity. 0.89

00:21:26.000 Also incorporated in this fake religion is just a bitterness towards America, especially the American founding.

00:21:33.000 And this is where the 1619 project comes.

00:21:35.000 And it's such sloppy, one-dimensional, just awful thinking where they say, well, America, you know, the founding fathers had slaves and therefore America is terrible.

00:21:45.000 And that's a thought-terminating cliche, right?

00:21:47.000 You say it, you get intimidated when they say it, and you kind of back away because you don't know how to respond.

00:21:51.000 And the response should be very simple.

00:21:53.000 Every human being that has ever lived has something in common.

00:21:56.000 You're born into a world you did not create, except Jesus.

00:21:59.000 He was actually born into a world he did create.

00:22:01.000 So, but he was more than human.

00:22:02.000 He was divine.

00:22:03.000 All of us have that in common.

00:22:05.000 Therefore, you cannot be judged based on the world you entered.

00:22:10.000 You can judge how the world looked when they exited.

00:22:14.000 The founding fathers entered a world where slavery was everywhere.

00:22:17.000 It was not questioned.

00:22:18.000 It was not challenged.

00:22:19.000 It was institutionalized and defended by the law.

00:22:22.000 By the time that Madison, Jay, Adams, and Jefferson died, slavery was largely abolished in most of the American states.

00:22:30.000 It was written against vehemently.

00:22:33.000 And not only did George Washington say it's a question of if slavery gets abolished, but when slavery gets abolished.

00:22:40.000 Those are people that probably deserve some study and some recognition and some moral credit.

00:22:50.000 And I could go through the facts, right?

00:22:52.000 Whether it be the first ever anti-slavery convention was founded in 1775 by Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, the original draft of the Declaration of Independence, vehemently wrote to King George, blaming him for bringing slavery to the United States, the first state to abolish slavery ever in the history of the world, first independent territory.

00:23:10.000 1777, it was Vermont.

00:23:12.000 Nine out of 13 of the colonies by ratification in 87 and 91, the Constitution and Bill of Rights had already independently abolished slavery.

00:23:20.000 There was real moral movement that was happening because the founding fathers decided to embrace a promise of human equality.

00:23:27.000 And then people say, well, the founding fathers fell short.

00:23:29.000 I get so sick of hearing that.

00:23:30.000 I say, hold on.

00:23:31.000 Yeah, they fell short, but they did a pretty dang good job.

00:23:34.000 I got to say.

00:23:35.000 I mean, they entered a world where slavery was everywhere.

00:23:37.000 And before you have your moral high horse, Nicole Hannah Jones, there are more slaves on the planet today than there were back then.

00:23:44.000 There's more slavery happening on the United States southern border than at the height of the Atlantic slave trade.

00:23:50.000 5,000 people a day.

00:23:53.000 And no one wants to mention that.

00:23:55.000 And you might say, oh, well, that's not slavery.

00:23:58.000 Come down to the Rio Grande Valley with me.

00:24:00.000 And I'll show you how the cartels sell people into a form of indentured servitude where they say, you're going to have to pay us back over 10 years, 20 years, 30 years.

00:24:08.000 Go down to Yuma, Arizona, where you see a sophisticated operation, no different than the slave smugglers of the 1600s and the 1700s.

00:24:15.000 Not to mention what's happening in the Horn of Africa, in Libya, in Syria, in China, in India.

00:24:21.000 The human norm is human beings owning human beings.

00:24:24.000 The founding fathers decided to say, stop it.

00:24:27.000 That's a pretty beautiful thing and something that we should all be thankful for.

00:24:34.000 So I could go on at length about that, but the religion of anti-racism is only powerful because we allow it to be powerful.

00:24:45.000 Out of all the ones, it is, in my opinion, the least attractive when it comes up against criticism, but it's actually the most dangerous of all five of the new religions. 1.00

00:24:57.000 It's the most dangerous because, my goodness, I'll tell you, we're getting to a country where we are trying to wreck the promise of the founding, where agency, choice, and character matters more than ancestry and melanin content.

00:25:15.000 You are disempowering a population when you tell them that your skin color determines your destiny. 0.98

00:25:23.000 That is an evil thing to do.

00:25:25.000 Instead, you should tell young people, your choices determine your destiny, and your skin color means nothing.

00:25:38.000 Okay, number four.

00:25:40.000 I won't dwell on this one too much, but it's the religion of power.

00:25:44.000 And it's just a smaller group.

00:25:45.000 This is the least popular of all the new fake religions, but it's mostly people at the top of the ladder. 1.00

00:25:50.000 All they care about is being in charge.

00:25:52.000 And you might say, well, Charlie, it's not that widespread.

00:25:54.000 I disagree.

00:25:56.000 I believe we all lived through a multi-year exhibit in human behavior during the Chinese coronavirus lockdowns.

00:26:02.000 I saw stuff about human behavior that I never would have believed years before.

00:26:06.000 And one of the things that I saw is that there's a small sliver of the population that enjoy being cruel to others just because they have a badge and they work at Starbucks and you don't.

00:26:17.000 And I call these people micro-tyrants, that they might be part of the pagan cult of earth worship. 0.97

00:26:23.000 They might be part of the religion of tolerance.

00:26:25.000 They might tithe to the church of anti-racism.

00:26:27.000 But what they really get off on is making sure that your mask is properly worn while you're getting a straw.

00:26:33.000 And if not, they're going to use power against you.

00:26:36.000 And I saw a thrill, an excitement, an exuberance, a purpose of these micro-tyrants that made me realize, I said, wow, that's how the Soviet Union operated. 0.91

00:26:47.000 Where that it wasn't just Stalin, it was millions of little infantry people that were suddenly super important.

00:26:53.000 Like, I didn't vote for you, barista person.

00:26:55.000 I didn't elect you.

00:26:57.000 I don't know what the check and balance is, but they are mayor of that store.

00:27:02.000 They get to tell you how to breathe.

00:27:04.000 They get to tell you, they have more power than even a mayor has.

00:27:07.000 It's like totally bodily control.

00:27:09.000 And they enjoyed it, a lot of them.

00:27:11.000 No, I know some of you, I probably have a Starbucks barista here tonight.

00:27:14.000 It's fine, welcome.

00:27:15.000 I'm sure there's plenty of people that didn't.

00:27:16.000 I don't mean just baristas, but you know exactly what I mean. 0.99

00:27:19.000 You mean people that out of nowhere sprung into the action of my meaning is to make sure somebody else is living up to a stupid rule. 0.99

00:27:28.000 And it makes them feel important. 0.99

00:27:30.000 And the religion of power is that here's the problem.

00:27:34.000 The more rules you have, the more tyrants you have.

00:27:38.000 You should have short, simple, beautiful, transparent, easy to understand rules.

00:27:43.000 When you have lots of rules, you need lots of rule enforcers. 0.97

00:27:47.000 And then when you have dumb rules, you have dumb rule enforcers. 0.97

00:27:51.000 Because good people do not want to enforce dumb rules. 0.97

00:27:55.000 So then, four, you have to just kind of go into the bottom of the barrel and you say, hey, let's go pry from the earth worshipers to go make sure everyone's wearing their mask.

00:28:04.000 I mean, the fact that people were getting kicked off of airplanes, this is the one, it defies everything that built the West, right?

00:28:11.000 When I think of the West, I think of the fruits of the Enlightenment and the spirit of the individual and the pursuit of truth and challenge and inquiry.

00:28:19.000 Here was, here where we were at the height of the lockdowns, right?

00:28:22.000 Where you have a non-stop flight from Newark International to LAX and they have to sit there for five and a half hours and you must wear the mask perfectly, except when you're eating and drinking.

00:28:32.000 And when you're eating and drinking, the virus is paused, obviously.

00:28:38.000 And when you were in New Jersey or California, the two cities you were flying to, the restaurants were closed because they were afraid of the virus.

00:28:53.000 But if you were in some sort of a tube at 35,000 feet at five hours, the virus is in complete and total suspension.

00:28:59.000 Now, in reality, what did that mean?

00:29:01.000 They knew that they would have a revolt on their hands if they didn't let people eat or drink.

00:29:04.000 So they just made up their own rules.

00:29:07.000 And then they would kick people off the plane if the mask wasn't perfect or if they were just kind of a little bit, you know, disagreed with one of the policies.

00:29:14.000 And you're like, wait a second, I don't have to wear a mask if I have a water bottle, but if I do, and the rules never made any sense.

00:29:20.000 And what was just so interesting, as I know a lot of you fought back against it, but societally is how we took it.

00:29:29.000 And I don't want to read too much into that, but I'm telling you, 100 years from now, 200 years from now, there will be a class taught at TCU if it still exists or whatever.

00:29:40.000 You know, 200 years from now, like how a rational country just lost its mind.

00:29:45.000 Seriously.

00:29:47.000 And I submit to you that if America was as Christian as it was in the 1950s, that nonsense never would have happened. 0.95

00:29:54.000 I'll tell you why.

00:29:56.000 I will tell you why.

00:30:01.000 A nation that puts truth as a core value, which is the cornerstone of Christianity, never would have allowed those policies to occur.

00:30:09.000 A nation that believes God is divine never would have allowed government to tell them to do something against their principles.

00:30:17.000 When you have a secular nation, you allow bad ideas to reign because there is no standard to compare them to. 0.69

00:30:24.000 And when you have no standard to compare them to, it's whoever's more powerful.

00:30:28.000 Okay, I'm going a little over time on this part, but I think it's important.

00:30:31.000 The last one is the worship of experts.

00:30:36.000 And this is the faith.

00:30:38.000 Yes, Fauci should be in prison.

00:30:39.000 You're exactly right.

00:30:40.000 That is exactly right.

00:30:51.000 You can also call it scientism.

00:30:56.000 It is a false comfort that people get in trusting unelected expert committees to tell them how to run their life.

00:31:03.000 And it's not just in the COVID stuff, which I could talk about at length, just the insanity and the evil of what we saw where loved ones had to die alone.

00:31:12.000 And their wife, even though she already had COVID, wasn't allowed to go in with their 40-year-old marriage and she never saw them again.

00:31:21.000 I mean, just how evil that is.

00:31:22.000 And no one was held accountable and no one was fired because the experts told us.

00:31:25.000 Or they told us that schools would be super sparters.

00:31:27.000 I could go on and on and on.

00:31:29.000 The kids that committed suicide and the mask policies and the fact that we never, and I mean, you want to talk about when I get angry, when I watch the, you know, March Madness and I have to now hear like these commercials about treatments for COVID.

00:31:40.000 We used to talk about treatments for COVID and you guys called us anti-science.

00:31:44.000 We said, wait a second, how about we tell people to increase their vitamin D levels, stop being fat, get exercise, eat better, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine.

00:31:54.000 And you say, oh, Charlie, you can't say that.

00:31:56.000 No, honestly, if we would have told America to lose 15 pounds, that would have been a way better treatment than masking and shutting down schools.

00:32:03.000 Like, okay, if you're overweight and you have comorbidities, then you should stay at home.

00:32:06.000 But if you're a marathon athlete, we're not going to infringe on your liberties or freedoms because some expert tells us.

00:32:11.000 Anyway, so, boy, I get a lot of angry emails when I say that.

00:32:14.000 But it's true.

00:32:15.000 It's a real comorbidity and America is largely overweight.

00:32:17.000 And we need to start talking about it.

00:32:18.000 It's a huge issue.

00:32:19.000 Anyway, I don't get applause when I say that, but it's true and people need to hear it.

00:32:22.000 So.

00:32:28.000 Scientism comes from an unearned trust in people that violate the American principle of power.

00:32:36.000 The American principle of power is that power must be earned.

00:32:38.000 It starts with you.

00:32:39.000 The people comes from God to you, the people, then to communities, states, federal government.

00:32:44.000 And you must go through elections to earn the appropriation of power.

00:32:47.000 Nobody voted for Fauci.

00:32:49.000 He was never elected.

00:32:50.000 He never canvassed.

00:32:51.000 He never had to go through.

00:32:52.000 He was just there in the fourth branch of government, all this power.

00:32:55.000 And expert worship is very tempting because you can believe that people, quote unquote, smarter than you can come in with all the answers, all the solutions, and you have to stop thinking for yourself.

00:33:06.000 You have to stop making your own independent solutions.

00:33:09.000 And this one is not the most dangerous.

00:33:11.000 I think that the DEI one is the most dangerous, but this is the one that is most institutionalized in our government.

00:33:16.000 And I'm very afraid because I mean, whether it be the experts that told us economic forecasting, banking news, the experts that told us on stuff with COVID, the experts that told us on stuff with Ukraine, the experts, and you go through it, you say, wow, these people have a really low batting average and the highest stakes, which is, I don't know, our whole civilization.

00:33:35.000 And the founding fathers saw this ahead of time, which is so simple, that instead of trusting committees or trusting bureaucrats or the Leviathan, that if it's not a proper role of government, send it back to the people or the states and empower you to get informed, literate, do research, and make the responsibility on you, the American people, to actually figure out what is best for your life.

00:34:01.000 And instead, we have over the last hundred years have given up so much of our liberty and freedom to the centralized government.

00:34:07.000 And what do we get in return?

00:34:08.000 We get the government that we've kind of earned, and it's not a good one.

00:34:11.000 It's a group of unelected bureaucrats that have contempt for our nation.

00:34:15.000 And it seems as if, regardless of how wrong they are, the one thing that unites expert worship is they refuse to ever apologize to us.

00:34:25.000 And I think that's what makes me the most angry, is that these people, it would go a long way.

00:34:31.000 I'm not saying this lightly.

00:34:32.000 It would go a long way, I think, for the healing of the nation if Fauci would come out and actually apologize.

00:34:39.000 He would never do it.

00:34:41.000 I don't want to say never, but it doesn't look like in his code of conduct or behavior, if he would actually issue a genuine heartfelt apology.

00:34:47.000 But they don't think they did any wrong, anything wrong, so then why would they apologize?

00:34:52.000 Because all of it, according to them, is according to the plan.

00:34:55.000 So anyway, let me summarize this all and then we'll do some questions, which is we're living through an existential crisis in the West.

00:35:01.000 It's serious and it's real, but the solution actually isn't that complicated.

00:35:05.000 The solution is just restore what built this place.

00:35:08.000 And my contention is Texas Christian University should be educating young people on the five fake religions, on where they come from, the threat, and how Christianity is the solution to every one of these synthetic and poisonous ideologies from spreading across our country. 0.87

00:35:27.000 Texas Christian University should be standing up for that.

00:35:34.000 And so Why I will not dwell on why I believe Christianity is true, and you can ask me about that.

00:35:44.000 I think I made somewhat of a case of the danger what happens when you close the book on the thing you're told you're supposed to hate.

00:35:50.000 When all of a sudden you turn your back on the foundation, the moral foundation of your civilization, and you act as if a council of experts can find an ideology to take its place, it's probably not just worse, it's probably diametrically opposed.

00:36:03.000 When Friedrich Nietzsche said God is dead in the 1800s, he was not saying it in a way to celebrate the death of God.

00:36:09.000 He was warning that God is dying in the West.

00:36:11.000 And I'll tell you that he was a little bit of a nutcase in some ways.

00:36:14.000 But the fact that he said that God was dying in the 1870s was almost prophetic.

00:36:19.000 I mean, he saw this 160 years ago, and he issued a warning in the book Beyond Good and Evil, where he said, listen, Westerners, God is going to die in public opinion.

00:36:28.000 The Industrial Revolution is coming.

00:36:30.000 People are going to increase their wealth.

00:36:32.000 All of a sudden, people are going to stray from God, and you're going to have a crisis.

00:36:36.000 And the crisis will be one that I don't think you're ready to solve.

00:36:39.000 And I think he hit it perfectly.

00:36:41.000 His solutions are wacky about how you have to create new values and all this stuff.

00:36:44.000 I think our solution is very simple.

00:36:46.000 Turn around, go back to our roots, put the Bible at the center of education, and we Christians have to fight for what is good, true, and beautiful.

00:36:53.000 Okay, let's do some questions.

00:37:04.000 All right, so let me lay some ground rules here.

00:37:06.000 A couple things.

00:37:07.000 Students get preference, okay?

00:37:10.000 Which should go without saying.

00:37:12.000 And this is a largely favorable audience.

00:37:18.000 If somebody who disagrees with us, you're allowed to go to the front of the line.

00:37:21.000 In fact, we encourage disagreement.

00:37:22.000 Let it be known to every liberal watching that conservatives want people who disagree to let their voice be heard.

00:37:28.000 But let me say one thing on that, which is if somebody who disagrees with me says something you find to be laughable or objectionable, do not mock them.

00:37:39.000 Do not ridicule them and do not interrupt them.

00:37:41.000 Give them an opportunity to say what they want to say and give them respect and give them a platform to be able to communicate.

00:37:48.000 Okay?

00:37:49.000 All right, let's do the first question.

00:37:54.000 What do you think is the most important way to keep Christ at the center of a household today?

00:37:58.000 Most important way to keep Christ at the center of a household.

00:38:02.000 That's a great question.

00:38:04.000 So I have an answer that some pastors disagree with.

00:38:07.000 I think one of the great mistakes of modern America is how we don't honor the Sabbath anymore.

00:38:12.000 Now, I'm not saying that you are tied to the Sabbath as a Christian.

00:38:15.000 I can't make that theological point.

00:38:17.000 I can make the point, though, that God rested, and that's probably pretty important.

00:38:22.000 And I believe the Ten Commandments can be a pretty good starting point for Western morality, right?

00:38:28.000 It's really interesting.

00:38:29.000 I believe the Sabbath, or Shabbat in Hebrew, which literally means stop, I believe it's the gateway commandment. 0.92

00:38:36.000 I believe that if you honor the Sabbath, the other nine are easier to keep. 0.97

00:38:40.000 And so I could tell you for me personally, I honor a Jewish-type Sabbath.

00:38:43.000 I turn my phone off on Friday night.

00:38:44.000 I turn it back on Sunday.

00:38:46.000 I do not do it because I believe I'm bound to the law.

00:38:48.000 I do it because God, I think, created and revealed it in the scripture in the buffet line of blessing that I then can live a more beautiful and complete and full life.

00:38:56.000 So I'm not saying you're bound by it, but I think you're missing out if you don't do it.

00:38:59.000 I have a better marriage because of it.

00:39:01.000 I work harder because of it.

00:39:02.000 I have something to look forward to.

00:39:04.000 It is a cathedral in time where I believe time can be holy for an entire week.

00:39:08.000 My team knows they can't contact me, but that means they got to fit it in the rest of the six days.

00:39:12.000 And it makes my walk with Christ deeper and more fulfilling and easier.

00:39:17.000 Let's think about it.

00:39:18.000 In a time and there's a competition for attention at every single turn, we have screen time, Instagram, Netflix, and all that.

00:39:26.000 Wouldn't it just be rational?

00:39:27.000 Let's take the theological point aside.

00:39:29.000 Rational to put away the phones and just say we're going to focus on the family, on our marriage for one single day.

00:39:34.000 And they might say, well, Charlie, why do you do Saturday, not Sunday?

00:39:37.000 Well, for a couple of reasons.

00:39:38.000 Sunday is the Lord's Day.

00:39:39.000 That's my day to go to church and to have communion, to community, and be with fellow believers.

00:39:44.000 This is different.

00:39:45.000 This is stopping from everything in the outside world.

00:39:47.000 This is about pouring into people in my own close family relationship, and nobody in the outside world can contact me.

00:39:54.000 And by the way, I think it's really important that we recognize and we realize that those that honor the Sabbath are happier.

00:40:03.000 They are less likely to have depression.

00:40:06.000 less likely to have anxiety.

00:40:08.000 And so that's an answer I have.

00:40:10.000 I think you have to, things that you work at, you get more of.

00:40:13.000 Things you emphasize, you get more of.

00:40:14.000 So remove the distractions.

00:40:16.000 Have one day where you remove yourself from this modern, busy, secular, broken world and put Jesus first.

00:40:22.000 That's my answer.

00:40:23.000 Thank you.

00:40:31.000 Hi, so how do you suggest we inform those close to us against these five fake religions or these pseudo-religions without outright bashing them or tolerating their corrupt ideology? 0.93

00:40:40.000 Because as a Starbucks barista person, I face this a lot.

00:40:44.000 Are you a barista?

00:40:46.000 I apologize if I offended you, by the way.

00:40:46.000 God bless you.

00:40:48.000 No, it's okay.

00:40:49.000 I agree with you.

00:40:50.000 Oh, thank you.

00:40:51.000 I have to say, one out of ten baristas give me a wink and a nod, and I appreciate that.

00:40:57.000 And by the way, that's hard.

00:40:58.000 It's not easy on your feet all day.

00:40:58.000 That's tough work.

00:41:00.000 And so God bless you.

00:41:01.000 Look, I don't know how persuasive I was tonight.

00:41:04.000 You guys can be the judge of that.

00:41:06.000 It's not my only job to be persuasive tonight.

00:41:09.000 People say, you know, people criticize me and they say, Charlie, you know, you're not changing hearts and minds.

00:41:14.000 That's not true, by the way.

00:41:15.000 We have plenty of testimonials and people tonight can attest to that.

00:41:18.000 But my foremost goal is to have clarity so that you can understand the topic.

00:41:25.000 And I think persuasion actually comes naturally when people can understand what's really going on.

00:41:30.000 And so, look, I think you should just root everything in God's word and you should ask, does it hold up against God's word?

00:41:36.000 So let's go to earth worship, right?

00:41:38.000 If somebody says that I care more about the raven, you know, in the sky than a human being and they say they're a Christian, they would never say something that bluntly, I hope.

00:41:46.000 But you can ask, what is the scripture to support that, right?

00:41:49.000 All throughout the first 11 books of Genesis, it is repeated, the earth is there for us, that we take dominion over the earth.

00:41:55.000 So you see, we have to understand that the Torah, the first five books of Moses, were written in a time of polytheism and paganism.

00:42:02.000 And so there are some not so subtle refutations all throughout the Torah where they're jabbing at the kind of consensus view, if you will.

00:42:10.000 This idea of monotheism, one God who speaks things into existence, is a profound, world-changing view that you have one God that is not in nature, but above nature.

00:42:24.000 You must understand that when the Torah was written, the river civilizations used to worship the sun or worship the river or worship the dirt or worship the sky.

00:42:33.000 The Hebrews had something different to say. 0.99

00:42:35.000 They said, no, there's a God that's above all of that.

00:42:38.000 And so that would be my recommendation is just always have God's word as the center of refuting any of these fake religions because when you study God's word and share it, it never turns up void.

00:42:46.000 Thank you so much.

00:42:47.000 Appreciate it.

00:42:52.000 And again, if you disagree, you're allowed to go to the front of the line.

00:42:54.000 Our team will help navigate that process.

00:42:56.000 Yeah.

00:42:56.000 Forgive me if I stutter a little.

00:42:58.000 I'm not very good with public speaking.

00:42:59.000 Thanks for being here.

00:42:59.000 No problem.

00:43:00.000 Thank you.

00:43:01.000 I don't disagree with everything you say.

00:43:03.000 I only disagree with one main point, which is the whole environmentalism thing.

00:43:06.000 I myself am also a Christian.

00:43:08.000 I've been a Christian for 15 years, grew up in the faith, was apostate, turned back to Christianity.

00:43:14.000 Thank you.

00:43:14.000 Welcome home.

00:43:15.000 My one question, more so of a clarifying question, is what you've said is that in Genesis, which is true, that God did give his followers and creation, us being human, dominion over the earth and to take care of things and that every plant is good and that every animal is for our help and for our feeding and well fruits.

00:43:34.000 However, with things such as being concerned with the environment, such as like our production of certain things, like I'm saying, I agree with a lot of the points you say, like we should continue to use fossil fuels.

00:43:45.000 That's definitely a good resource that God has provided to us.

00:43:49.000 However, with things like littering and pollution, as we saw in East Palestine, it's definitely a big concern because if God gave us dominion over creation, should we not take care of his creation to honor him as his creation is a reflection of him and his intricacy and divine?

00:44:03.000 Well, so no, that's not true.

00:44:05.000 Nature is not a reflection of him.

00:44:06.000 We are a reflection of him.

00:44:08.000 It never says that nature is a reflection of him.

00:44:10.000 That is not true.

00:44:11.000 I understand what you mean.

00:44:12.000 I don't mean to put you on the spot because you're coming at it from a great point.

00:44:14.000 But yes, it is designed by God, breathed by God, but the actual creation of nature we don't find God in, right?

00:44:20.000 So we don't look at a mountain and say, like, wow, that's what God's going to look like, right?

00:44:23.000 But we look at a human.

00:44:24.000 I know you didn't mean that.

00:44:24.000 I just wanted to make sure that's clear.

00:44:26.000 But no, I mean, never am I ever pro-pollution or pro-littering.

00:44:29.000 The question should be why, though, right?

00:44:31.000 And I think you have the right why.

00:44:32.000 Most environmentalists don't.

00:44:33.000 My why is because it makes human beings less likely to prosper, flourish, and survive, right?

00:44:39.000 My why is not because the river is polluted.

00:44:41.000 That's bad.

00:44:42.000 But if human beings live there, then it's an insult straight to humans.

00:44:46.000 Right, exactly.

00:44:47.000 I think we're agreeing.

00:44:48.000 Yeah, of course. 0.97

00:44:49.000 There's a doctor, not a medical doctor, but a PhD doctor that I listened to, Dr. Tyrone Hayes, and he talked about atrazine in the water, which is the chemical that turns the freaking frogs gay. 0.94

00:45:00.000 He was, yes. 0.97

00:45:01.000 You're a lot more base than I think you.

00:45:04.000 He was talking about that, and he was talking about the importance of if this has this detrimental effect on frogs, what does it have on people?

00:45:10.000 And so I love nature.

00:45:10.000 No, I hear you.

00:45:13.000 I want to make my position very clear, okay?

00:45:15.000 I love being in the mountains.

00:45:16.000 I believe God gave us nature to also enjoy the splendor and the beauty, to point up and aim high.

00:45:22.000 I think sunsets and waterfalls and rivers are all great if we understand the proper placement of that, right?

00:45:29.000 Left without the scriptures that can quickly turn into pagan Native American earth worship, right? 0.97

00:45:35.000 Which is bad morally and bad societally, right?

00:45:39.000 And so anyway, we're agreeing.

00:45:40.000 Thanks for being here.

00:45:41.000 Appreciate it.

00:45:41.000 Thank you so much.

00:45:42.000 Thank you.

00:45:48.000 All right, so this question is a little bit off topic.

00:45:50.000 It relates to Biden's recent executive order.

00:45:52.000 It makes it harder to get guns.

00:45:54.000 So I want to ask: how do you believe we can further prevent the government from infringing upon our Second Amendment rights?

00:45:59.000 Yeah, it's a timely question with what's happening today in Tennessee.

00:46:03.000 So everything in life is a choice and a trade-off.

00:46:05.000 Anybody who tells you differently is an infant.

00:46:08.000 And so you have to prioritize things that matter more than others.

00:46:12.000 This is why I love Aristotle.

00:46:13.000 He talks constantly about hierarchies, right?

00:46:15.000 He talks about the hierarchy of the good, the hierarchy of choices, the hierarchy of behavior, the hierarchy of character.

00:46:20.000 And so when it comes to firearms or guns, we must first ask the question of why.

00:46:25.000 Why do we have a Second Amendment?

00:46:26.000 It is not for hunting, but I do love hunting.

00:46:28.000 Do we love hunting out here, everybody?

00:46:30.000 Hunting is very important. 0.81

00:46:33.000 It is not even for self-defense, but that's very important.

00:46:36.000 Defending your home, defending your family is a moral good.

00:46:40.000 The unpopular to say, but morally correct reason we have a Second Amendment is so that free people can defend their rights given to them by God in case government becomes tyrannical.

00:46:50.000 God forbid that ever happens, okay?

00:46:53.000 Now, I fully acknowledge that comes with a cost.

00:47:00.000 The cost is this.

00:47:01.000 If you make that argument that people should be able to own firearms against a usurptatious potential tyrannical government, you're going to have negative externalities.

00:47:10.000 You're going to have gang shootings.

00:47:11.000 You're going to have mass shootings.

00:47:13.000 The question is, how do we minimize it?

00:47:15.000 And the question is, how do we reduce it to almost zero?

00:47:17.000 And we have never had that proper conversation.

00:47:19.000 For example, if banks and sporting events have armed guards, every school in America should have armed guards sitting 24-7 at the school.

00:47:29.000 End of story.

00:47:29.000 Period.

00:47:32.000 If airports have armed guards, schools should have armed guards.

00:47:35.000 And so you must come after it morally clear.

00:47:38.000 I will never say that we'll get gun deaths to zero because we live in a broken world and we live in a place where there's a lot of nut jobs and a lot of evil people.

00:47:46.000 But the choice that I'm unwilling to make, I am not willing to say we get rid of all of guns.

00:47:51.000 Why?

00:47:52.000 Because even more evil than an isolated incident there and an isolated shooting there is a tyrannical government that wants to exterminate its citizens.

00:48:02.000 And so that is the way we must talk about guns.

00:48:05.000 Reduce and minimize the criminality and the shootings through prudent and proper restrictions, which most of the times mean good people with a firearm to protect against a bad person with a firearm.

00:48:18.000 And so how do we make sure the government doesn't come after our guns?

00:48:20.000 We need constitutional carry in every red state.

00:48:22.000 I think Texas finally has passed it.

00:48:24.000 Am I right about that, which is great? 0.51

00:48:26.000 But you need your politicians to stop tap dancing around the issue.

00:48:30.000 They're afraid to make the argument I just made because the media mocks them.

00:48:33.000 Lean in.

00:48:34.000 The 20th century has showed us time and time again, 150 million people were murdered because they took the guns away.

00:48:41.000 We must be clear why we have a second amendment.

00:48:43.000 The second amendment protects all the other amendments.

00:48:45.000 Thank you so much.

00:48:51.000 Hi, I'm Tyler.

00:48:52.000 I'm 14 and homeschooled.

00:48:54.000 Oh, it's great.

00:48:54.000 Thanks for being here.

00:48:55.000 It's great.

00:48:59.000 I was just wanting to know what's your opinion about school vouchers and school choice.

00:49:03.000 You know, I got that question earlier.

00:49:05.000 I'm very in favor of school choice.

00:49:06.000 I have no idea how popular it is here in Texas.

00:49:09.000 Every state, yeah, it's like mixed opinions.

00:49:11.000 And I'd love to learn why, because that's an unusual sentiment.

00:49:15.000 And maybe someone can get in line and tell me why.

00:49:17.000 So that would be interesting, right?

00:49:19.000 But because in most states, it's a lifeline and is kind of like an escape pod out of government-run schools and teacher unions where kids can't read and they're teaching woke DEI nonsense.

00:49:31.000 I come from a state with the most robust school choice measures in the country, Arizona.

00:49:36.000 And I could tell you, it's worked wonderfully.

00:49:38.000 We have classical charter schools popping up all over the valley.

00:49:42.000 We have more kids that are studying Socrates and Plato and Aristotle and with no DEI departments and no woke nonsense.

00:49:48.000 And the money follows the child.

00:49:50.000 It is the most robust school choice package in the country.

00:49:54.000 I'm not here to tell Texas what to do with your schools because the way you fund schools is very unusual versus other states.

00:49:59.000 So you guys can figure that out.

00:50:00.000 But let me offer you, I don't mean that negatively.

00:50:03.000 You fund it through property taxes, which not every single state does, okay?

00:50:05.000 So you guys can figure it out.

00:50:07.000 Not every state funds through property taxes.

00:50:09.000 I know that's a crazy thing to think of.

00:50:10.000 They have thing called income tax.

00:50:11.000 I know you guys don't have that around here.

00:50:13.000 But here's what I will tell you.

00:50:14.000 Number one, in the city of Chicago, they went through 40 schools.

00:50:18.000 They could not find a single kid that could read at grade level.

00:50:21.000 I think school choice is a pretty good idea for those inner-city Chicago kids that are our fellow American citizens that are being crushed by the Chicago Teacher Union.

00:50:30.000 Same in Baltimore, same in Washington, D.C. Anything that drives the American Federation of Teachers and the National Education Association nuts, I usually think is a good idea.

00:50:40.000 I'm very against the cartel, not the Sinaola cartel, the teacher union cartel that has done such damage to our kids.

00:50:47.000 So look, you guys figure it out.

00:50:49.000 I'd love to hear the argument why it's a bad idea.

00:50:51.000 That would be a new one because conservatives for years have been the pushers and the advocates for school choice.

00:50:56.000 The only reason I could think that it's bad is two.

00:50:58.000 Those of you that live in zip codes where you paid up to try to go to a better school, you're afraid that all that money you paid in property tax will be null and void because of somebody that doesn't pay as much in property tax.

00:51:08.000 Okay, I could understand that argument.

00:51:10.000 Number two, it could be that Bill Gates and Zuckerberg come in with a bunch of woke charter schools and they use the school choice voucher system to then push critical theory and Common Core.

00:51:20.000 Okay, I could possibly see that.

00:51:22.000 The risk of those two things is insignificant compared to mass illiteracy that's happening in the inner city schools.

00:51:28.000 And maybe in Texas, your inner city schools are amazing.

00:51:31.000 I can tell you that in Chicago, D.C., Philadelphia, New York, Boston, San Francisco, LA, Seattle, and Portland, they're a moral outrage, and school choice would be a solution.

00:51:41.000 Thank you so much.

00:51:47.000 Hi, I'm Jack.

00:51:48.000 Thanks for letting us cut.

00:51:49.000 It's really cool.

00:51:52.000 First, I wanted to say I was actually really surprised when you kind of told everyone not to boo or shout down.

00:51:58.000 I was a little nervous getting up, but I feel I spend a lot of my time in more left-leaning circles.

00:52:06.000 I don't personally think I'm left-leaning, but I guess people say I do.

00:52:10.000 But when I look on your Instagram and on your social media and other people that would align pretty parallel with you, I feel I'm not seeing a big reconciliation with a lot of the division in the country because I'm a big American fan, but I would definitely like to see us get back to where two parties or multiple parties could be more unified and less divisive.

00:52:34.000 And I'll admit there's a lot of divisive ideology on the left.

00:52:39.000 I'm not going to deny that.

00:52:40.000 But when I look at a lot of the rhetoric with a lot more far-right-leaning people, I don't see a lot of sustainable reconciliation.

00:52:50.000 I just don't see us getting back to a place where there's...

00:52:54.000 I just don't see the work being done on y'all's end by y'all.

00:52:59.000 So let me ask you a question.

00:53:01.000 How many left-wing events do you know that would allow disagreements and encourage them to go to the front of the line and tell the audience not to vote?

00:53:08.000 Probably not a lot, right?

00:53:10.000 I'm actually a really big fan of Sam Harris.

00:53:13.000 And at his events, he always invites people up and encourages them to.

00:53:17.000 Sam Harris is not really a political figure, but he's no, okay.

00:53:21.000 Yeah, not political figures.

00:53:23.000 That's fine.

00:53:23.000 I mean, the point is they don't do that.

00:53:26.000 Let's just be very clear.

00:53:27.000 That's number one.

00:53:28.000 Number two, I think you're onto something, though, about reconciliation.

00:53:31.000 I don't seek to reconcile with people who think men can give birth.

00:53:37.000 Yeah, I don't see that.

00:53:38.000 Or I'll give another example.

00:53:39.000 I don't seek to reconcile with people that believe in black-only dormitories.

00:53:45.000 I want to win, and I want them to lose, because that's an evil idea.

00:53:49.000 Yeah, I understand.

00:53:51.000 And I guess, like, I agree-ish.

00:53:55.000 Yeah, but I just would be curious to see how the rhetoric you send forth.

00:54:03.000 Like, I get the feeling when I look at your Instagram and people similar, I'm seeing a lot of like derogatory statements and I guess a lot of things that are meant to get a reaction.

00:54:14.000 And I think you know that.

00:54:15.000 Well, I mean, I could put you on the spot.

00:54:17.000 Can you give me an example?

00:54:18.000 I mean, I feel like when I saw the whole blackface woman face thing on your that's not derogatory, it's true.

00:54:25.000 A man who calls himself trans is wearing woman face no different than I would wear blackface trying to be a black person. 0.88

00:54:30.000 I understand.

00:54:31.000 It's assuming an identity that isn't yours.

00:54:33.000 And I'm not an affirming person of the gender thing, but I also don't see that post.

00:54:39.000 I just wonder, like, what minds you think you're changing, communicating the way you do it.

00:54:44.000 Well, two things.

00:54:45.000 The fact you remember it means I did my job and you didn't keep scrolling.

00:54:49.000 I mean, we remember a lot of bad things about the people.

00:54:52.000 You're in a competition for eyeballs.

00:54:53.000 Number two, it's a plainly spoken thing that is true, that resonates on a deep fundamental level, that we fire people left and right for blackface controversies, yet we allow people with woman-face controversies to win woman of the year and NCAA championships.

00:55:09.000 Why?

00:55:11.000 I guess on that specific, on that specific example, I think it's the intention behind it.

00:55:17.000 I'm not really literate in a whole lot of STEM.

00:55:19.000 But you don't know my intention.

00:55:21.000 Well, no, I'm talking about the intention of the individual.

00:55:24.000 So the person doing blackface or women. 0.84

00:55:25.000 Well, hold on.

00:55:26.000 Why does the intention matter?

00:55:28.000 Well, I guess because if you look at someone who's transgender or someone who's, again, I'm not literate in a whole lot of STEM things, but I also know there's a lot of psychological things going on there. 0.95

00:55:40.000 It's not completely, I mean, okay, I'm actually evident in STEM.

00:55:43.000 I'm not going to.

00:55:43.000 No, but I mean, so let me just get in.

00:55:45.000 Let me just kind of zero in on this one.

00:55:47.000 The intention is completely irrelevant.

00:55:49.000 It's the action that we must judge, correct?

00:55:52.000 Well, so if somebody robs a bank because they're poor, they should still go to jail regardless if they're poor or rich.

00:55:59.000 If somebody appropriates a womanhood identity, they could say, well, I just wanted to be happy, or I just wanted to win the NCAA championship because I just, I wasn't able to compete against men. 0.98

00:56:10.000 We should call them a cheater.

00:56:11.000 So their intent, she said, he said, not she, he said on ESPN this weekend, I just wanted to be happy.

00:56:17.000 Oh, I'm sure there's a lot of happy cheaters out there.

00:56:20.000 That's why we have standards.

00:56:22.000 I feel like you're giving a lot more malicious intent to these individuals.

00:56:26.000 But it's irrelevant.

00:56:27.000 They're doing something evil.

00:56:29.000 It doesn't matter if they think they're doing good.

00:56:31.000 The Nazis thought they were doing good.

00:56:33.000 Every evil force in the history of the world thinks they're doing good.

00:56:37.000 It's, are they doing good?

00:56:40.000 Stalin thought he was God on earth.

00:56:42.000 The question is, are they?

00:56:43.000 Not do they think they are?

00:56:44.000 Can I get like 30 more seconds?

00:56:46.000 I'm sorry.

00:56:47.000 So I've actually been, I mean, this isn't a brag or a flex or anything.

00:56:51.000 I've been spending a lot of time on trying to look at accountability and free will and things like that.

00:56:58.000 I'm religious.

00:57:00.000 I actually am, again, not a brag, but I'm getting my master's at seminary and I got my undergrad in theology.

00:57:06.000 I think free will is essential to religion.

00:57:08.000 I agree with you.

00:57:09.000 But I'm also, when I look at a lot of the relevant neuroscience, I'm beginning to actually struggle with free will.

00:57:14.000 And I'm someone that thinks it's essential and I'm also struggling with it.

00:57:17.000 Okay, let me help you.

00:57:18.000 Let me help you with that then.

00:57:20.000 I was just going to say, I think when it comes to crime, retributive justice in our criminal justice system is dangerous if you...

00:57:28.000 Give me an example.

00:57:30.000 I feel if you, intention is a lot more important than you're saying it is.

00:57:35.000 I don't.

00:57:38.000 Just because you're poor and you commit a crime, it's insulting other poor people that don't commit crimes, saying that poverty is an excuse to crime.

00:57:46.000 I think intention, what I mean by intention is how much control someone had over their decision.

00:57:52.000 I think there's a lot of social, pardon?

00:57:54.000 You're a free being.

00:57:55.000 You have total agency over your decisions.

00:57:57.000 I think a lot of the relevant science is starting to disagree with that.

00:57:59.000 Yeah, so on the quantum level, that's not true.

00:58:02.000 And by the way, the world can be deduced more than a series of cause and effect.

00:58:06.000 You know why?

00:58:07.000 We have this miraculous thing called reason.

00:58:09.000 It's called logos in John 1.

00:58:11.000 Probably studied it in theology class.

00:58:13.000 Logos means you could change and pivot immediately.

00:58:16.000 It means you are not set and bound to the previous atoms that came before you.

00:58:20.000 Reason means you could do deductibility.

00:58:22.000 You can have rationality, freedom of choice.

00:58:25.000 You made a choice to come here tonight.

00:58:27.000 Now, the relevant neuroscience, which Sam Harris is a part of in his book, Moral Landscape, you would say, well, we're all just kind of a combination of cause and effect.

00:58:34.000 What we think is free will is not free will. 0.63

00:58:37.000 That's silly.

00:58:38.000 And I'm going to tell you why, because in the beginning was the logos and the logos was God and the logos became God, right? 0.53

00:58:44.000 And John 1 is there for a reason to show us that the logos is a properly ordered universe that free beings can point up and aim high, find virtue and eternity.

00:58:55.000 You see, the issue with the neuroscientist argument is that it's impossible to prove, but it's impossible to disprove.

00:59:01.000 Determinism, which is basically what you're beginning to enter into, takes way more faith than believing in free will because you exercise free will every single day.

00:59:11.000 You did so by being here tonight.

00:59:12.000 You do so based on the podcast that you listen to.

00:59:14.000 I believe it's fundamental to a true and proper moral landscape.

00:59:17.000 Okay, thanks for being here.

00:59:18.000 We'll get to the next one.

00:59:28.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:59:29.000 Thank you for being here.

00:59:29.000 I'm a homeschool mother of four.

00:59:31.000 My 12-year-old is here with me.

00:59:32.000 My eight-month-old is at home.

00:59:34.000 This is the first night being away from him just so I could come see you.

00:59:38.000 I can't believe I'm up here to disagree with you, but I wanted to help you with the school choice issue here in Texas.

00:59:44.000 Maybe it's because Texas is different and maybe there's different situations in different states.

00:59:49.000 But here in Texas, we already have school choice.

00:59:51.000 You can take your children out of school.

00:59:52.000 We have the most freedom with homeschool in regards to homeschools.

00:59:57.000 We don't have to register with anybody.

00:59:59.000 We don't have to tell anybody what we're going to do.

01:00:00.000 We don't have any restrictions.

01:00:03.000 And that's priceless.

01:00:04.000 Can we all agree here that government makes things worse?

01:00:08.000 Government intervention makes things worse.

01:00:11.000 So here, you're right.

01:00:12.000 Property taxes is what pays for school.

01:00:13.000 So what they're telling us is that we're going to pay our property taxes and then they're going to give us our money back in terms of vouchers so we can then take it to a private school, which costs way more than anything they're going to be able to give us anyway.

01:00:24.000 So people that are still private's less than public, but keep going.

01:00:29.000 But they give you a $5,000, even if they give us an $8,000 voucher, which they're not per kid.

01:00:35.000 But even if it was $8,000, you're still not going to a good private school here in Texas.

01:00:40.000 So, I mean, their $10,000 is about minimum.

01:00:43.000 But anyway, aside from that, once it's government money, once I have paid my property taxes and now it's government money and they are giving me my money back, it is government money.

01:00:52.000 They now have strings.

01:00:54.000 They now get to say what I have to teach my children.

01:00:57.000 What, you know, private schools that have freedom of religion right now, they eventually, I mean, maybe not year one, maybe not year two, but eventually they will see that they have the ability to put restrictions on that.

01:01:07.000 You cannot teach this.

01:01:08.000 You have to teach this.

01:01:09.000 So now they're teaching SEL, they're teaching CRT in the public schools.

01:01:12.000 This is how they're going to get it in the private schools.

01:01:14.000 This is how they're going to get it into homeschools.

01:01:17.000 Plenty of states have homeschool restrictions, and this is how they do it.

01:01:20.000 And we've seen it in California.

01:01:21.000 They're doing it in Arizona right now.

01:01:22.000 Well, they're not doing it in Arizona.

01:01:24.000 That's not true.

01:01:24.000 But I mean, I live in Arizona.

01:01:26.000 They're not doing it in Arizona.

01:01:27.000 They're trying and it's not going to work.

01:01:28.000 But we have, so let me tell you, I'm a little confused, though.

01:01:31.000 You would actually get money as a homeschool parent, though.

01:01:34.000 Right?

01:01:34.000 That's there are, they're trying to do that.

01:01:37.000 They would create more homeschooling, actually, because parents would get it.

01:01:37.000 It's not that.

01:01:40.000 And it's not government money.

01:01:42.000 It's a refund of your money.

01:01:43.000 But once it's in the government coffers and it comes back to us, it is not our money.

01:01:46.000 What we need to do is that we can't do it.

01:01:47.000 If you get an IRS tax rebate, it's never their money.

01:01:50.000 It's not a lot of people in schools with my money.

01:01:50.000 It's your money.

01:01:52.000 But no, I mean, when you get a tax rebate from the IRS, it was never their money.

01:01:55.000 They're just sending back your money.

01:01:56.000 That's not how they're doing it.

01:01:57.000 They're not doing it as rebates.

01:01:58.000 They're doing it as ESAs and they're doing it as vouchers.

01:02:00.000 It's still government money that they are gracious.

01:02:02.000 We've got to stop saying there's no such thing as government money.

01:02:04.000 Okay.

01:02:05.000 Respectfully, it's taxpayer money that they use.

01:02:08.000 Tell the government that.

01:02:09.000 No, I know, but I'm just, I'm interested, though, genuinely.

01:02:12.000 So you talk about strings.

01:02:13.000 That's a legitimate argument.

01:02:15.000 Does it say that in the bill?

01:02:16.000 Strings, SEL, and DEI.

01:02:18.000 No, they don't.

01:02:19.000 What I'm saying is, okay, so let's talk to you.

01:02:21.000 So you're saying it's a gateway.

01:02:22.000 You said it could be a gateway.

01:02:23.000 Just like look at our Second Amendment, right?

01:02:25.000 We have it in our famous document.

01:02:28.000 The Second Amendment says shall not be infringed.

01:02:30.000 And yet, look at all the infringement.

01:02:32.000 So it doesn't matter what they write in the law.

01:02:34.000 Once people get a hold of it, once government gets a hold of it, they will infringe.

01:02:39.000 That is what government does.

01:02:40.000 That's interesting.

01:02:41.000 All right.

01:02:42.000 Thanks so much.

01:02:42.000 Appreciate it.

01:02:48.000 Hi there.

01:02:49.000 How are you doing?

01:02:49.000 My name is Keaton.

01:02:50.000 So I just kind of have an environmental related question.

01:02:53.000 Sure.

01:02:53.000 So while I appreciate your opposition to the environmental fanaticism that seems to infect most of the political left of today, my question is kind of that, well, certainly not perfect.

01:03:04.000 Would you say that certain green initiatives are on net positive in terms of either producing employment or reducing pollution?

01:03:12.000 And if not, how would we avoid tangible pollution effects that are happening in cities like Beijing and China where they have such terrible smog and things that actually have true human effects, like you said, were so important earlier?

01:03:26.000 Just give me an example of a green initiative.

01:03:28.000 Yeah, sure.

01:03:29.000 So, I mean, every time when I drive back to my house, because I live in Minnesota, I drive by big solar panel farms, basically.

01:03:38.000 And those provide power, obviously not for the entirety of my state in Minnesota.

01:03:42.000 Correct.

01:03:43.000 It's cloudy a lot up there.

01:03:44.000 It is.

01:03:45.000 And so that, you know, obviously that's an argument against it.

01:03:48.000 But clearly, those types of things have created more employment in the area for people who have to clean them, who have to build them, who have to do all these different types of things.

01:03:57.000 And they provide, you know, as of conservative, I'm very in support of free market like opportunities.

01:04:02.000 And it's provided a challenge to like the monopolization that natural gas has right now.

01:04:06.000 So I'm wondering, you know, given that it could potentially have like, you know, economic benefits and, you know, pollution reduction benefits, do you think it is at all positive or could have positive benefits?

01:04:19.000 Okay, so solar panels in Minnesota, I think, is probably a bad idea.

01:04:21.000 I'll be honest.

01:04:22.000 Like, I don't think taxpayer dollars should go to solar panels in Minnesota.

01:04:27.000 I mean, we could go through example after example.

01:04:29.000 You talk about natural gas monopoly.

01:04:31.000 I think natural gas is one of the most beautiful things we have in this country.

01:04:34.000 We should be using it more and we should be, it's clean, easy to transport.

01:04:39.000 It's incredibly combustible.

01:04:42.000 We're blessed.

01:04:42.000 We're basically the world's leader in natural gas.

01:04:44.000 We just discovered more in the Permian Basin five years ago.

01:04:47.000 It's one of the largest depositories of natural gas in the world.

01:04:51.000 And I mean, solar panels come at a cost too.

01:04:53.000 It takes rare earth minerals to build a solar panel.

01:04:56.000 It's an incredibly expensive process.

01:04:58.000 Electric vehicles come at a cost.

01:05:00.000 It takes nickel, takes cobalt.

01:05:02.000 Cobalt is terrible for the environment, right?

01:05:05.000 So while in a free market, I'm not opposed to people putting up solar panels, but I hate to break it to you.

01:05:11.000 Your examples of solar panels in Minnesota proves the insanity of the green energy fervor because that's a really bad idea.

01:05:19.000 Instead, if some free market person can make solar panels in Minnesota work, that's great.

01:05:24.000 I'm sure you could go like drill for oil in Illinois, but good luck, you know, getting financing on that.

01:05:32.000 The point being is this, is that there's a cost to all things, and there's a prudent medium that I'm sure you agree with that a lot of the fanatics do not.

01:05:41.000 More natural gas and nuclear energy.

01:05:44.000 People never want to talk about nuclear energy.

01:05:46.000 It is incredibly efficient.

01:05:48.000 It's a fabulous, fabulous advance.

01:05:52.000 And so, but people don't want to talk about it because of Three Mile Island, which is legitimate, but it's also an outlier.

01:05:58.000 So as far as the job creation, I find that to be very unpersuasive because I could say right now, everyone has a job to go dig a ditch and fill it back in again, right?

01:06:07.000 Or like go build a bridge to nowhere, right?

01:06:09.000 Job creation needs to only come if there's value being created in the correlation to job creation.

01:06:14.000 And so therefore, if you're exploring natural gas in Midland, Texas or Odessa or in West Texas, you're creating value and those are high-paying jobs that not only help those families and have made Midland Odessa into an incredibly prosperous part of Texas that used to not be as such.

01:06:31.000 You guys have been there recently.

01:06:32.000 It's beautiful what's happening out there.

01:06:33.000 It's amazing.

01:06:34.000 And the current regime is trying to stop that, but it's also really good for the country.

01:06:38.000 Using natural gas makes us be able to call shots easier against the people who hate us, specifically China.

01:06:45.000 Thanks so much.

01:06:46.000 Appreciate it.

01:06:51.000 How's it going?

01:06:52.000 I'm a huge fan of yours, Charlie.

01:06:54.000 Thank you.

01:06:54.000 My question is with a growing need to be taught faith-based educational principles in U.S. schools.

01:06:59.000 How do we respond to those who make the argument of freedom of religion or the separation of church and state, especially in regards to public schools?

01:07:06.000 Okay, so I would first ask them, find me where it says separation of church and state in the U.S. Constitution.

01:07:13.000 And what they will do is they will, as a smart aleck, point you to the First Amendment, which says Congress shall make no law establishing a religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

01:07:25.000 That's the establishment clause, which means that Congress or America will not have a state-run religion or an official religion, specifically Pentecostalism, Episcopalianism, or Presbyterianism.

01:07:36.000 The word, the phrase separation of church and state, is derived from a single letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Convention, hilariously actually assuring them that the government won't come after them, saying that the government will stay away from you.

01:07:48.000 And it was twisted by the Warren Burger Court in the 1960s and 70s to erroneously, unconstitutionally take prayer out of school, something that never should have happened in our school because then they reinvent this kind of constitutional standard where they say separation of church and state.

01:08:04.000 And so people that say that, Christians say that, first of all, they don't understand their civics.

01:08:08.000 They don't understand constitutionalism at all.

01:08:11.000 But I would just push back on this.

01:08:13.000 I'm not recommending a national church or a national religion, but it is a fact that God appears four times in the Declaration of Independence.

01:08:20.000 The Lord appears in the Constitution of the United States, whether your teacher taught you that or not.

01:08:24.000 It says in the year of the Lord.

01:08:25.000 It says that in the Constitution of the United States.

01:08:27.000 55 out of 56 of the signers of the Declaration were Bible-believing church attending Christians.

01:08:32.000 And as it says in the beginning of the Declaration of Independence, when in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bans that have tied them to another, deriving the separate but equal station, goes on to say the laws of nature and nature is God.

01:08:44.000 That is not a God that is polytheistic, pagan, or obviously atheistic because it says God.

01:08:50.000 There was a belief in an ethical monotheistic God at the cornerstone of the United States project.

01:08:55.000 That is a fact.

01:08:55.000 You don't have to think it's the Christian God.

01:08:57.000 You don't have to think it's the Jewish God.

01:08:58.000 But every single signer of the Declaration, including Thomas Jefferson, believed in ethical monotheism.

01:09:03.000 That has always been the cornerstone of the American government.

01:09:06.000 So when I say we need to restore these things, it is around the magnanimous ecumenical idea of ethical monotheism.

01:09:12.000 Thank you so much.

01:09:12.000 Appreciate it.

01:09:17.000 We're going to go a little bit longer.

01:09:19.000 You guys want me to keep going?

01:09:20.000 I'm happy to.

01:09:20.000 Okay.

01:09:21.000 So if you disagree, you're welcome to cut and line our team.

01:09:24.000 We'll do it.

01:09:24.000 We'll go a little bit longer.

01:09:27.000 So you touched on how the world is moving so far away from Christianity and how it's becoming really secular.

01:09:33.000 I wanted to know your thoughts on Hollywood and how they're imposing so many satanic ideas through music lyrics, movies, concerts, and even all over social media out to society.

01:09:47.000 And, you know, people like adults and even younger children look up to all these influencers, celebrities.

01:09:53.000 And so what are your thoughts on all these satanic ideas going on?

01:09:57.000 Yeah, you know, I struggle with what is more dangerous people that worship Satan or don't believe he exists.

01:10:06.000 I don't know.

01:10:07.000 But they're both really bad.

01:10:10.000 So yeah, they're both obviously really evil.

01:10:12.000 But that's an interesting question, right?

01:10:13.000 Who's more dangerous to society?

01:10:15.000 Someone who worships Lucifer or someone who doesn't think he exists?

01:10:18.000 I don't know.

01:10:19.000 Okay, but anyway, yes, I mean, Hollywood doesn't really care.

01:10:22.000 There's no price anymore to their outright Satan worship, whether it be Sam Smith or Lil Nas or all of this, with Luciferian imagery and outright satanic incantations.

01:10:35.000 And so what is my opinion of it?

01:10:37.000 If I were to get theological on you, I think that Satan no longer has to hide.

01:10:44.000 And because he is the most prideful and the most rebellious and the least self-controlled, looks at spiritual vessels to be able to show his temporary dominion over that sphere of cultural influence.

01:10:57.000 And we must remember a couple things theologically, right?

01:10:59.000 Jesus in his dialogue with Satan called him the prince of this world.

01:11:05.000 Paul called him the God of this world.

01:11:07.000 C.S. Lewis said we are an enemy-occupied territory, and we must launch a sabotage campaign.

01:11:12.000 And so we must understand that until Christ returns again, which I believe he will return, happy to talk about that as well, is that we are in a place that is currently the dominion of the fallen angel, right?

01:11:25.000 And that is a hard concept theologically for a lot of Christians to reconcile.

01:11:29.000 But I don't think it's any mistake.

01:11:31.000 We're starting to see the outright Satan worship.

01:11:33.000 And when you call it out, you can see the media reporters kind of laugh about it and they almost have delight in it.

01:11:39.000 And so I'm happy.

01:11:40.000 Do you have a follow-up thought really quickly?

01:11:42.000 So it's just like what you were saying, everything they do now is they turn into a joke.

01:11:46.000 Like there's this one movie about LeBron James's house, and there's a scene in it where they go through this whole ritual about like sacrifice and the whole Illuminati thing.

01:11:58.000 But now like media will go through it as it's like funny and it's a joke, but it's literally just right in front of you.

01:12:04.000 So there's two explanations, right?

01:12:06.000 And then we'll get to the next question.

01:12:07.000 The first explanation is that it's Satan trying to rear his head out of a prideful dominion.

01:12:12.000 Or the second explanation is they do it because they think it's going to really infuriate us.

01:12:16.000 They do it as kind of a troll.

01:12:17.000 I don't know, but I do know this: that I don't want to continue to not that, how do I say this?

01:12:23.000 I don't think it should be acceptable for Christians to remain quiet when on the Oscars there is outright Satan worship.

01:12:30.000 Where are the pastors in America at a time like this?

01:12:34.000 If pastors don't mention this, they should resign in disgrace because it's the spiritual war right there on television.

01:12:41.000 Thank you so much.

01:12:42.000 Appreciate it.

01:12:42.000 Thank you.

01:12:43.000 I've got to get to the next question.

01:12:45.000 Thank you.

01:12:45.000 I'm sorry.

01:12:48.000 Hey, Charlie, thank you for being here.

01:12:50.000 I agree with you politically, basically everything, but I disagree with you on something that you said earlier tonight in regards to the Lord's Day.

01:13:00.000 I keep the Seventh-day Sabbath myself, and the more I study it out for myself and see what the Bible says, the less evidence I see that there's indication that the Bible says Sunday is the Lord's Day.

01:13:13.000 And so I don't know if you had any.

01:13:16.000 I think you might be right.

01:13:18.000 Yeah, you could be right.

01:13:19.000 So it's really Resurrection Day is what Sunday is.

01:13:21.000 That's the reason that it has become quote unquote the Lord's Day.

01:13:24.000 Are you Seventh-day Adventist?

01:13:26.000 Yes, sir.

01:13:26.000 Yeah, I could tell.

01:13:27.000 No, it's okay.

01:13:28.000 I don't mean any some of the most beautiful believers I know are Seventh-day Adventists.

01:13:33.000 And that's fine.

01:13:34.000 But the reason that Resurrection Day has become Sunday in the Western culture is you have Good Friday.

01:13:41.000 And boy, I had this down perfectly a couple of years ago, but there's a space of interval that I think Mark in particular shows that he was resurrected on what we now call Sunday.

01:13:51.000 But if you go to the Eastern world, they don't view it that way.

01:13:54.000 They view Friday night to Saturday night as the Lord's Day.

01:13:57.000 Do I have that correctly?

01:13:59.000 Could you say that last part when we're talking about that?

01:14:00.000 Well, no, meaning that in your faith, Seventh-day Adventists, you believe Friday night to Saturday night is the cathedral in time.

01:14:07.000 Yes, sir.

01:14:08.000 I honestly think it's kind of irrelevant.

01:14:10.000 I think it's what if it's Saturday or Sunday, we'll find out when we go to heaven.

01:14:14.000 The question is, what are you doing to honor the divine for a singular day?

01:14:18.000 That's a much more important question.

01:14:20.000 If I could counter, that's okay.

01:14:23.000 Talking about the baptism, or not the baptism, I'm sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself.

01:14:27.000 Talking about the resurrection, Lord's resurrection becoming the Lord's Day.

01:14:32.000 I think in Romans chapter 3, 3 through 6, we see that it's written that Jesus' resurrection and death represents our baptism, that whole process, dying and rising again, new life.

01:14:46.000 I guess I would counter on the point of not coming from a legalistic point, but from we look back at the Ten Commandments and we see the fourth commandment says, remember the Sabbath days, remember it and keep it holding.

01:14:59.000 Because you were once slaves in Egypt.

01:15:01.000 And we see throughout the whole Bible of the Sabbath is the time to remember what God has done for us and how he's worked in our lives.

01:15:01.000 Yes, sir.

01:15:01.000 Yes.

01:15:07.000 But we also see that Genesis in the beginning of the Bible is consistent throughout the Bible.

01:15:13.000 We see God blessed it, rested on it, and sanctified it.

01:15:15.000 And we don't see that any other day.

01:15:17.000 I don't believe there's.

01:15:19.000 I'm very pro-Sabbath.

01:15:20.000 I'm not disagreeing.

01:15:21.000 I just, yes, sir.

01:15:21.000 No, yes, sir.

01:15:23.000 Yeah, I just, whether you honor it with rest or stop in the Hebrew Shabbat on Saturday or Sunday, I don't think is the most pressing theological question.

01:15:33.000 The question is: are you leaving modernity for a day to try to honor the divine and your duties as a follower?

01:15:40.000 I think that's much more important.

01:15:41.000 So thanks so much.

01:15:42.000 Appreciate it.

01:15:43.000 Thank you.

01:15:48.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:15:50.000 I was actually also a volunteer when you wrote UIC.

01:15:52.000 Oh, wonderful.

01:15:53.000 Yes.

01:15:54.000 Yeah, my friend invited me since I'm also from Illinois.

01:15:56.000 And I love that you started off your speech with, it's good to be home.

01:15:59.000 Yeah.

01:15:59.000 I just love that.

01:16:01.000 So I also love that you see a future for Illinois.

01:16:03.000 My parents don't, but I do.

01:16:07.000 So what are your favorite memories growing up in Illinois and Chicago?

01:16:10.000 Well, Chicago is not what it used to be, obviously.

01:16:13.000 I could go through them, but I'll broaden this for the audience.

01:16:20.000 I miss the country I grew up in.

01:16:22.000 I'll actually say some numbers here.

01:16:24.000 It's interesting.

01:16:25.000 I did a whole show on it today.

01:16:27.000 Wall Street Journal poll came out today and said, when I was five years old in 1998, 70% of Americans thought patriotism was very important.

01:16:35.000 Now it's 38%, according to the Wall Street Journal.

01:16:38.000 Same poll, same methodology.

01:16:39.000 You might disagree, but I'll prove it to you in other words, because you might say, oh, Wall Street Journal is wrong.

01:16:43.000 I'm going to sell you some numbers that support this that are hard to disagree with.

01:16:48.000 Community involvement in 1998, 47% of Americans thought it was important to be involved in your community.

01:16:53.000 Now it's 27%.

01:16:55.000 Having kids in 1998, when I was five years old, 59% of America thought it was important to have kids.

01:17:00.000 Now it's 30%.

01:17:01.000 Now you might say, well, Charlie, that's a Wall Street Journal poll.

01:17:04.000 I can't believe it.

01:17:04.000 Patriotism.

01:17:05.000 Military enrollment is down 30%.

01:17:07.000 So that would prove that poll.

01:17:08.000 Community involvement, Boy Scout, church involvement, local groups are all down.

01:17:15.000 So that proves that.

01:17:16.000 Having kids, our birth rate is down tremendously over the last 20 years.

01:17:20.000 And so what do I miss about Chicago and Illinois?

01:17:22.000 I miss living in a country, not a colony.

01:17:24.000 The only thing that went up in the last 20 years that value more to Americans is how much they value money as very important.

01:17:30.000 Money is more important to Americans than having kids, being involved in the community, being patriotic, or going to church.

01:17:36.000 Maybe the scriptures were onto something when they said it was the root of all evil.

01:17:40.000 Thanks so much.

01:17:40.000 Appreciate it.

01:17:41.000 Thank you, Charlie.

01:17:43.000 All right, we'll take a couple more and then we got to wrap it up.

01:17:48.000 Hello.

01:17:48.000 Thank you for coming here, Charlie Kirk.

01:17:51.000 And I'm the president at UT Dallas, but I'm part of a Christian organization at UTD, and they've been kind of, and I've been kind of distancing myself from them because of the fact that they are somewhat going woke in some senses, and they just don't really seem to take a stance on anything.

01:18:10.000 So how would you go about like solving that problem?

01:18:14.000 Yeah, I mean, this is a huge issue, everybody.

01:18:16.000 I mean, I could have spent my whole speech on this, but wokeism, like a virus, has attached itself to the healthy host of American Christianity.

01:18:23.000 And boy, does Dallas have its fair share of woke pastors throughout?

01:18:26.000 I mean, I could name some names, but these people are so off base.

01:18:29.000 You might say, okay, how do I know my pastor is woke? 0.99

01:18:32.000 Well, let's first find out if your pastor is cowardly.

01:18:34.000 Did your pastor mention and celebrate the reversal of Roe versus Wade?

01:18:39.000 If the answer is no, you should find a new church.

01:18:42.000 Period. 1.00

01:18:43.000 You are led by a coward. 0.99

01:18:45.000 50 years of prayer, fasting, tithing, and volunteer activism by Christians to try to stop the slaughter of the unborn in the womb. 0.99

01:18:53.000 We finally get it, and most American Christians, pastors, don't even whisper it to their audience, not even a whisper.

01:18:59.000 Resign. 1.00

01:19:00.000 You're a coward. 1.00

01:19:00.000 You should not be in charge of the ministry. 1.00

01:19:02.000 How do you know if you have a woke pastor, a pastor that says, quote, the Old Testament doesn't matter, resign.

01:19:08.000 You shouldn't be a pastor.

01:19:10.000 The Old Testament was actually studied and quoted by Jesus himself.

01:19:14.000 He loved the Torah.

01:19:15.000 And every single Bible-believing Christian should know the Torah.

01:19:17.000 You'll know a lot more about Jesus.

01:19:19.000 He quoted Deuteronomy more than any other book.

01:19:21.000 By the way, that's something the founding fathers and Jesus have in common.

01:19:24.000 They both quoted Deuteronomy more than any other book in their dialogues.

01:19:28.000 Should teach you something.

01:19:28.000 If you don't know Deuteronomy, that's fine.

01:19:30.000 Study it.

01:19:30.000 It's there.

01:19:31.000 Dive deep into it.

01:19:32.000 It takes effort and work.

01:19:33.000 It's not like Proverbs.

01:19:34.000 I'll tell you.

01:19:36.000 You got to get your big boy pants on, right?

01:19:38.000 You got to read some commentaries.

01:19:39.000 You got to go to the original Hebrew. 0.84

01:19:40.000 It'll bless you infinitely.

01:19:43.000 But look, how do you know if you're being led by a woke pastor?

01:19:45.000 If they start talking about race, if they start talking about all these different things, I mean, I'm just amazed at how many of these pastors are talking about they need to have racial struggle sessions, about marching with BLM and all this nonsense.

01:20:00.000 And I don't think they quite understand, first of all, that the role the church should have as the ecclesia, the gathering point, the community impact center that should happen.

01:20:11.000 Number two, I don't think they understand politics, which is the highest form of community, according to Aristotle, because it combines morality and sociability.

01:20:17.000 And number three, I don't think they understand Psalm 97, 10.

01:20:20.000 If you love God, you must hate evil.

01:20:22.000 And there's a lot of evil to hate right now.

01:20:24.000 You hating evil done properly can be an act of worship to the Lord.

01:20:29.000 How many pastors are telling you that?

01:20:31.000 No, instead, they say a lot of other different things.

01:20:35.000 You can understand and acknowledge somebody's sin without having to accept it.

01:20:39.000 The woke seems to cross that line.

01:20:42.000 The woke is always worried about turning people away, but that's all they're good at is turning people away.

01:20:46.000 The woke pastors and their churches are crumbling.

01:20:50.000 They're no longer growing or thriving.

01:20:52.000 And American Christianity has never been less popular today than it was 20 or 30 years ago.

01:20:57.000 We need a new generation of courageous pastors to rise up, preach the word verse by verse and chapter by chapter, and not care about budgets, baptism.

01:21:06.000 Well, they should care about baptism.

01:21:07.000 Buildings and baptism for the sake of baptisms, they shouldn't care about. 1.00

01:21:12.000 Baptisms are fine, but you should be creating disciples, not converts of all nations. 0.88

01:21:16.000 Big difference.

01:21:16.000 Thank you so much.

01:21:19.000 See you on the line.

01:21:21.000 Two more.

01:21:22.000 Okay, awesome.

01:21:23.000 Thank you for being in Fort Worth.

01:21:24.000 We love that.

01:21:25.000 Thank you.

01:21:25.000 I'm Valeria.

01:21:26.000 I'm 22 years old.

01:21:27.000 I'm a candidate for Fort Worth ISD to be on the school board.

01:21:30.000 Great.

01:21:30.000 Good for you.

01:21:32.000 Cool. 0.85

01:21:35.000 There's actually quite a couple of more candidates in the room.

01:21:37.000 We just finished block walking before this, but you mentioned that local community involvement is so low.

01:21:43.000 How do we increase those numbers?

01:21:44.000 How do we emphasize the importance of being involved in local government?

01:21:48.000 So I think that if I had to give the biggest piece of critical feedback to conservatives, it is to complain about the macro and to allow the macro to impact the micro.

01:21:58.000 So I just went through all of those trends.

01:22:01.000 And the most important critical way to answer all those trends is, well, then what are you doing?

01:22:07.000 Do you believe patriotism is important?

01:22:09.000 Do you believe having children is important?

01:22:11.000 Do you believe going to church is important?

01:22:13.000 And sometimes you have to put the duty above the expediency.

01:22:17.000 The country does the opposite right now.

01:22:19.000 That's why money is going up in the value and everything else is going down.

01:22:23.000 And it's not easy, but boy, is it fulfilling and it's life-giving.

01:22:26.000 I have to tell you.

01:22:28.000 You know, kind of seeing the excesses of modernity, just always caring about yourself is an awful existence.

01:22:34.000 And it's baked into all of our education system, into our schools.

01:22:37.000 You don't even notice it.

01:22:38.000 How often do you hear a young person have to say that, I'm going to do the right thing, even though it's the more difficult thing?

01:22:45.000 So how do we start to change community involvement?

01:22:47.000 You are the solution.

01:22:48.000 Just do it yourself, right?

01:22:50.000 And that's where micro action matters.

01:22:53.000 I was shocked.

01:22:54.000 I encourage all of you to re-listen to my podcast today.

01:22:56.000 It was one of the more moving hours we've done in quite some time.

01:22:59.000 Sometimes when we don't do any show prep, but this is the case, like 10 minutes before we just change the topic.

01:23:04.000 And we were getting emails.

01:23:05.000 This is a real thing.

01:23:06.000 And I want to challenge a big demographic here, which is we got about 100 emails on this genre and about 30 that were really explicit and 10 that would take your breath away of all of our listeners and our viewers of grandmothers that said, I hope my grandkids don't have kids, I wouldn't want a kid to be born into this world, and I think that is an unbelievably evil thing to believe it is.

01:23:26.000 It is.

01:23:27.000 It is having a a crisis of fear, of a posture of fear, an attitude of fear.

01:23:33.000 No, you do the right thing, regardless of the weather.

01:23:36.000 You do the right thing.

01:23:37.000 You have an obligation to be fruitful and multiply as an act of worship to the divine.

01:23:41.000 Yeah, I mean, people say Charlie, you gonna have kids in this mess, of course, because maybe they'll be smart enough to solve it, maybe we're gonna raise good people.

01:23:50.000 How do you have hope without having children?

01:23:52.000 I get these emails of these people and they say, it's all so dark and broken.

01:23:58.000 You got free choice, you got agency.

01:24:00.000 Do something about it.

01:24:03.000 Thanks so much for listening.

01:24:04.000 Everybody email us your thoughts, as always, freedom at Charliekirk.com.

01:24:07.000 Thanks so much for listening and god bless For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - April 01, 2023

America's Fake New Religions: Charlie LIVE at Texas Christian University

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