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00:01:24.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
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00:03:33.000And I am not going to be able to live with myself if we have our office in Arizona and if we're spending our time here and we're not doing everything we possibly can to impact the city and the nation and the state around us.
00:03:48.000Because this state right here, as people know, this is, as Arizona goes, now the nation goes.
00:03:53.000This is a state where, depending on the values and the decisions of every person in this room and in this area, the entire nation goes that direction.
00:04:02.000So, some churches are saying, we're not getting involved in this stuff.
00:04:05.000We're just doing nothing but the gospel.
00:04:07.000Now, first of all, we all do the gospel every single day.
00:04:50.000But other thought is it's actually the opposite.
00:04:53.000I think a lot of people in the church today are looking for moral clarity.
00:04:57.000I think a lot of people are coming to the church and they're saying, hey, the world around me is confusing.
00:05:02.000My 14-year-old is being taught that there's no difference between men and women, is there?
00:05:08.000And if a church is not willing to use biblical truth and to offer clarity, then all of a sudden people are going to say, I'm not looking to the church for much of anything anymore.
00:05:17.000And so where we are as a nation right now, dare I say we're at a turning point in our nation.
00:05:22.000But I also believe that it's a decision point.
00:05:25.000You know, in the Bible, in Mark in particular, the Greeks had many different words for time.
00:05:30.000The Greeks had different words for love as well.
00:05:33.000I'm sure you guys have covered that very well, Agape, Phileo, Eros, Thorge, just name a couple.
00:05:38.000But also the Greeks had a couple words for time.
00:05:41.000For example, first there's Kronos, where we get the word chronological from, and then Kairos.
00:05:55.000It's a time that's built different than others.
00:05:58.000I really believe that we're in a time that's more consequential than that even 10 years ago or 15 years ago.
00:06:04.000And the Bible tells us this, that it's a linear time, as you talked about previously, Luke, which is exactly right.
00:06:09.000We do not believe in a cyclical or a circle, but we believe in a linear way of looking at time.
00:06:14.000But this time right now is a Kairos moment where we're going to be tested, where the body of Christ, for the bride of Christ, for the church, is going to be asked the question: are you going to contest for moral righteousness in the public square when it matters most?
00:06:26.000When you might lose friends, when people start saying you're a bad person because all of a sudden you want to speak moral clarity into these issues.
00:06:34.000And this is where the church is supposed to take its proper role.
00:06:38.000And if you look all throughout the Old Testament, Esther, Mordecai, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, Joseph, just to name a couple, counselors to the king, the people that, the people, the heroes that we look in the scriptures that go to government, that go to our leaders and say, this is what is right and this is what is wrong.
00:06:55.000And so this is the time for the church.
00:06:56.000This is the Kairos moment for the church where we must step up and we must speak moral clarity for our nation.
00:07:07.000So about a month ago, we went to our church board and we said we have an opportunity before us to really make a difference to really impact the young people of our city.
00:07:16.000And we shared about what we're wanting to do in partnership with Charlie and to hold a specific night here once a month.
00:07:26.000And we're going to call this night Freedom Square, where people can come all the valley and fill this place and talk about the issues they're dealing with in their school, in their workplace, and speak truth into these issues.
00:07:40.000And so starting on May 4th, we are starting a brand new extension ministry here at the church.
00:07:48.000And you're all invited to come, bring your friends.
00:07:52.000Now, we don't mind preaching to the choir, you know, or preaching to the choir for the most point here this morning.
00:07:58.000We also want to bring free thinkers, your neighbors, your young people, who are still trying to figure out what truth is and how to stand in this day and age that we live in.
00:08:09.000We want you to bring them to this place and we're going to talk about the very issues that they're battling with every single day in their school.
00:08:16.000So, we're believing this is truly going to have an impact on the state of Arizona.
00:08:20.000Talk a little bit more about Freedom Square, and then we're going to turn him loose for about 30 minutes to share right from the start.
00:10:38.000That's what we're not, we do not even begin to say that we have all the answers, but we have really good starting points.
00:10:45.000We have good places where conversations can be started.
00:10:47.000I think you can think differently about these issues.
00:10:49.000Because what I find, and I've spoken over 50 churches in the last year, from Steve Smotherman's church to the great Juergen's church to many others, is that the body of Christ is hungry for knowledge.
00:12:03.000We want to be the place that opens the doors.
00:12:05.000And it's a ministry opportunity, everybody, because believe it or not, there's people that would call themselves conservatives, but they're not yet Christians.
00:12:13.000What a great ministry opportunity to say, hey, I know you agree with me politically.
00:12:46.000The Galatians 3 model is that the law, the teachings of civil government and self-government, keeps you in place until faith or revelation comes.
00:12:54.000So amazingly, in the reverse of what people are telling you, this is actually going to help bring people to Christ.
00:13:00.000Is that we're going to open the doors of the church.
00:13:02.000We're going to say, tell us what you're hearing in your schools.
00:13:07.000First movie, Luke and I. We're going to bring in some of the biggest speakers you can imagine.
00:13:10.000You guys have seen our conferences at turning point.
00:13:12.000Imagine us bringing that into the church, but it's always going to be around a biblical framework, always.
00:13:17.000And there will always be a call to action for people to give their lives to Christ.
00:13:20.000But I think, and I know, in fact, I see it in this church and other churches, the churches that offer this in one shape or form-Rob McCoy's Church, James Cadiz, Steve Smotherman, Juergen, Troy Maxwell, is that the body of Christ digs deeper.
00:13:34.000The body of Christ says, Now I see the intersection of my faith and the action in that Kairos.
00:13:40.000So circled on your calendars, everybody, we want to pack this place up.
00:13:43.000And it's going to be every Monday, every month, first Tuesday, every month, starting on May 4th.
00:13:47.000I got a 30-minute, 30-second comment here.
00:13:51.000And that is, we have a pastor's conference every year.
00:13:54.000And over the years, we've had 250,000 pastors that have attended this conference.
00:14:02.000We have a chance now to literally change America through Pastor School to get this message out and say the church doesn't have to be afraid.
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00:15:54.000We're going to talk about Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who is a teller of truth.
00:15:57.000I want to take a couple minutes and just build out what the role of the church is in all of this, more specifically, and give you some historical context.
00:16:05.000And so, first, I want to read from the scriptures in Jeremiah.
00:16:27.000We think of welfare as getting stuff, and that's not what the word welfare means this way.
00:16:31.000It's shalom or shalem, peace, that which is unbroken, stable, serene, right?
00:16:37.000So, right there, in four words in Hebrew, it's saying we must demand peace, serenity, and stability of the city or the nation where I have sent you into exile and pray to the Lord on its behalf.
00:16:51.000And this is my favorite part, for its welfare, you will find your welfare.
00:16:55.000Wow, your welfare is tied to the welfare of the nation you're in.
00:16:59.000Now, that's not to say that your righteousness or your eternity is tied to it.
00:17:16.000How about communist China today, North Korea?
00:17:18.000You see, there's a belief only someone who lives in a free society could believe this, which is that politics doesn't matter.
00:17:24.000Only someone who can live in a free society has the luxury to believe that you should not get involved in the government around you because you don't actually see the threat of the tyranny that comes there.
00:17:34.000Ask anyone who fled any one of these dictatorships or tyrannies what that looks like.
00:17:39.000So, the most important thing you could do in your life is give your life to Jesus Christ.
00:17:42.000Number one, uncompromising, no question.
00:17:45.000What's the second most important thing?
00:17:47.000To make sure you can do the first thing.
00:17:48.000You know, the window of religious liberty is actually closing in the world, not opening.
00:17:52.000More countries are locking down and going after Christians, not opening up.
00:17:55.000There are more people that live without hearing the name Jesus every single day or every week than here.
00:18:00.000We take that for granted, and that's the default position, by the way.
00:18:03.000The default position of humanity is to not have gratitude, not have respect, just act like these are the things are always, not understand the sacrifices that were made before that gave us what we have around us.
00:18:15.000So, why do we have what we have around us?
00:18:17.000And is it special or is it exceptional?
00:18:40.000One of the biggest lies, the things I was never taught, is that this country was just born out of nothing, and it was atheists and deists that founded America.
00:18:48.000Half the signers of the Declaration of Independence studied divinity in college.
00:18:53.000All but three signers of the Declaration of Independence were Bible-believing, regular church-attending Sunday, Sunday church-attending Christians.
00:19:00.000God is mentioned four times in the Declaration of Independence.
00:19:03.000It says clearly, laws of nature and nature is God.
00:19:06.000This idea that God is the most important and not King George is a uniquely American idea.
00:19:11.000In fact, but the question is: what happened before that in 1776 when three documents were written?
00:19:17.000And I encourage everyone to dive deep into them, but that's why we're going to have Freedom Square so we could dive into them together.
00:19:22.000And we're going to have readings and we're going to get into it.
00:19:24.000Common Sense by Thomas Paine, Wealth and an Inquiry into the Wealth and the Inquiry into the Cause of the Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith, and then the Declaration of Independence.
00:19:33.000But what's happening in the 1740s or 1750s?
00:19:56.000So America was founded by the First Great Awakening.
00:19:58.000George Whitfield, Jonathan Edwards, John Wesley, pastors that were getting out into the streets and preaching the word of God, talking about you are free through Jesus, not through King George, and you must give your life.
00:20:09.000If you want to go read a harsh teaching, if you think your pastor gives you a hard time, go read Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God by Jonathan Edwards and come back to church and you're going to be like, okay, I've now heard it all.
00:20:21.000I mean, it's only said 35 times in that sermon.
00:20:24.000It was given all across the eastern seaboard.
00:20:26.000So all of a sudden, for the 1740s, 1750s, 1760s, this Protestant, Bible-believing, dare I say, evangelical, bottom-up revival was happening in America.
00:20:37.000Now, this was a new thing because all of a sudden, literacy rates were increasing for the first time in human history because the word of God gave everyone a reason to go read.
00:20:47.000So all of a sudden, people were asking questions.
00:20:49.000They were saying, now that I've given my life to Christ, I believe God is in charge.
00:20:52.000I believe that there's an ultimate creator.
00:20:55.000Why are we governing ourselves this way?
00:20:57.000Why do we not have the consent of the governed or separation of powers?
00:21:00.000These questions were starting to be seriously asked for good reason.
00:21:03.000The first great awakening led to the founding of our country.
00:21:07.000And our founding of our country, despite what you might be taught in schools, was founded on freedom, not on slavery.
00:22:43.000Activist pastors going out in the street talking about the need to repent, and then all of a sudden, America was brought back into its place.
00:22:49.000Fifth president James Monroe wrote about this extensively.
00:22:52.000Then John Quincy Adams, and then Andrew Jackson, and then Martin Van Buren.
00:22:58.000John Quincy Adams is an abolitionist, by the way.
00:24:14.000That if we can't abolish slavery, then nothing else matters.
00:24:17.000You can go visit the little white church house up in Ripon, Wisconsin, middle of nowhere.
00:24:24.000And they said, we are going to argue for this idea of equality, ella uutheria, nisonomia, the Greek words for freedom and equality, under God.
00:24:35.000A lot of people died, a lot of sacrifices were given, but it was Christians that were pushing it forward.
00:24:40.000It was the church that was getting into it.
00:24:41.000And the church, again, America was falling backwards, right?
00:24:44.000The church caught it and brought it back into where it was supposed to be.
00:24:48.000The next great awakening, and historians argue, some say there was a great awakening in the 1920s.
00:24:54.000There might have been, but the great awakening that I would accept, that all of us know the most about, that some of you lived through, but we don't talk a lot about, is that we know that socialism and communism was spreading through the world through the 1940s and 50s.
00:25:23.000Well, a man that is known for a bigger and better thing, but should also be known for this, that all of you know, was an anti-communist crusader for Christ in the 1950s.
00:25:36.000I encourage all of you to go listen to the sermons of Billy Graham in the 1950s, where Billy Graham was talking in open-air revivals against the rise of Soviet communism and its infiltration in America.
00:25:47.000So when America was falling backwards, who was there to hold it up?
00:25:52.000Billy Graham getting back in the word of God, saying, give your life to God.
00:25:55.000Do not give yourself to the utopian promises of secular-run socialism or communism.
00:26:00.000It was the church that put it back into its proper position.
00:26:03.000How many people here have been impacted by Billy Graham?
00:26:05.000Every hand should go up because we're all basically here thanks to the teachings of Billy Graham.
00:26:09.000The people that he taught, the people he inspired, the type of Bible-based, open-air, expositional, verse-by-verse teaching.
00:26:19.000Millions of people to Christ, but the people he inspired, but he also said, no, no, you have to have a vertical relationship with your creator, not a horizontal relationship with your state.
00:26:27.000You must understand where your rights come from.
00:30:23.000Is Jesus wanted you to be in the public square?
00:30:25.000And I'll tell you right now, did Jesus ever call for comfortable Christianity?
00:30:32.000Who are the Christians that get the New York Times articles right now?
00:30:37.000The Christians that all of a sudden believe a certain political philosophy of the world, not challenging the world with biblical truth, right?
00:30:48.000So all of a sudden, if you're winning approval over that whole, let's say, organization, you're probably not doing what Jesus promised you if you were doing the right thing.
00:31:03.000Blessed are you who are persecuted in the name of me.
00:31:35.000If you think that can't happen here, I got a Soviet dissident for you to meet.
00:31:40.000If you think that can't happen here, you should go meet Joseph Bonduranko, who is a Soviet preacher who was locked in prison for 23 hours a day for 15 years for preaching the gospel.
00:31:50.000Is the gospel on fire in communist China right now?
00:31:54.000Now, here's a reason why the church has been targeted.
00:31:58.000There's a reason why, and this is why this church is taking the right posture and the right tone.
00:32:02.000Is these churches that decide to do nothing, man, they don't really realize the game that's being played here because the appetite of the tyrants, and by the way, it is, just go through, look throughout the Bible of how people always want to centralize power for themselves.
00:32:29.000George Washington was a Bible-believing, prayerful, reverent, pious man who understood that God's rights came from God.
00:32:37.000But understand that some of the churches that are deciding not to get engaged or get involved in this, they don't understand the game that's really at play here.
00:32:46.000When you're worshiping, what are you really saying?
00:32:48.000What are you really saying to the rest of the world?
00:32:51.000You're saying that this is my ultimate purpose.
00:32:54.000My ultimate purpose is not given to me through government fiat or through a bureaucrat or through a top-down order.
00:33:01.000You see, that's a challenge and affront to anyone that wants total and complete control.
00:33:06.000And before anyone in the external world says, oh no, they don't want total and complete control, just read a little bit of 20th century history because it's always more.
00:33:16.000The Bible clearly says that if you do not find Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, you will not stop to try to conquer your earthly desires.
00:33:24.000Satan tempted Jesus and said, You can have the whole world.
00:34:06.000Because of government, because of decisions people make in the ballot box.
00:34:10.000What you're doing right now, a brother in Christ, Mike McClure, is facing $2.6 million in fines in San Jose.
00:34:17.000And he continues to open his church and have his doors wide open because he says, if I even have one person that gives their life to Christ, that is worth it.
00:34:27.000But that's just the reflection of the leadership or in the government around you.
00:34:32.000Why is it that Walmart and Home Depot, cannabis dispensaries, and abortion factories were open, but the church was supposed to close?
00:34:42.000You know, so I get a chuckle out of this.
00:34:44.000People say, you know, we have to, why is it that there's so many mental health issues?
00:34:50.000You don't understand that there's a correlation between closing the church, people's community, their ability to worship and find salvation, and then we're stunned when we start to see all these things start to skyrocket in the country.
00:34:59.000It's not that just the church is essential, it's the most essential institution in the entire country, and it should never close again.
00:35:52.000We're going to have godly people that are going to raise their hand and say, I'm going to go run for school board.
00:35:56.000We're going to have godly people that are like, you know what?
00:35:58.000I'm going to go become a precinct committee man.
00:36:00.000I'm going to have godly people that are like, you know what?
00:36:01.000I am going to start to ask questions what my kids are learning.
00:36:04.000Godly people that are going to be engaged and involved and aware of the welfare in the city.
00:36:08.000And you're going to realize that there's a new level of your belief and your faith where you're like, wow, I now can spread the good news and the sweetness of the gospel in all arenas.
00:36:19.000And so I want to pack this place out on May 4th and every month there.
00:36:24.000And so tell your family and tell your friends.
00:36:26.000And it's going to be something that you can count on and that we really want the spirit to move in this.
00:36:34.000If I said anything that really captured your attention, you guys want to listen or learn more.
00:36:38.000We do two podcasts today on the Charlie Kirk Show podcast and we spend a lot of time on them.
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00:37:03.000And so if you guys feel moved to do that, it's a great blessing to me and to us.
00:37:07.000And we're going to be rebroadcasting these discussions in Dream City on our podcast feed so that millions of people can hear them.
00:37:14.000And so if you do not know how to subscribe to a podcast, there should be an eight-year-old around here that can show you how to do that on Spotify or Apple Podcasts.
00:37:23.000I know it might seem insignificant, but it's a real blessing to us.
00:37:50.000For those of you that are logical and rational that are here today and you like my videos, you say, oh boy, he's getting all mystical on me.
00:37:56.000Explain to me the laws of mathematics and thermodynamics and physics as an act of randomness.
00:38:01.000Explain to me the ability to build superstructures like this without the roof falling in.
00:38:06.000And the laws of nature, and yes, of nature is God.
00:38:08.000So if there's creation, we all agree there's creation.
00:38:16.000Well, then therefore there must be a creator that made it that way.
00:38:20.000So if there's a creator, when has the creator ever revealed himself?
00:38:24.000Well, we have a book for that, where there's a beginning and there's an end, and we're somewhere in the middle, where we're made in God's image.
00:38:51.000Every other religion is going to be like, check this box, come to this thing, do all these things, and then eventually you can get closer to God.