The Charlie Kirk Show - America's New Anti-White Religion with Jeremy Carl and Alex Marlow

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00:00:09.000 Also, Jeremy Carl talks about the war on white people unfolding in America.

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00:01:18.000 One of the great successes of the Trump presidency that I don't think he got enough credit for, President Trump, was what he was able to do with the federal bench.

00:01:31.000 One of the reasons why I support Donald Trump in 2024 is because of how clear and courageous he was in putting constitutionalist judges on both the Supreme Court and on the federal bench.

00:01:46.000 It's a little nerdy and wonky.

00:01:48.000 Not everybody enjoys hearing about it, but these are people with enormous amounts of power to interpret the Constitution of whether or not your liberties and freedoms deserve to be protected or taken away.

00:02:02.000 Someone's been really tracking, someone's been tracking this in a really interesting way.

00:02:06.000 I met him a year and a half ago at the Claremont Institute deal.

00:02:10.000 The Lincoln Fellowship was tons of fun.

00:02:12.000 I'm actually in the middle of another Claremont class right now, which is very challenging and worthwhile.

00:02:17.000 And he's done some fabulous research on this, and I look forward to discussing it with him.

00:02:20.000 Jeremy Carl is with us.

00:02:22.000 Jeremy, welcome to the program.

00:02:23.000 Thank you much, Charlie.

00:02:24.000 Pleasure to be on.

00:02:25.000 So, Jeremy, walk us through your tweet and explain it to us where you say, quote, anti-white discrimination in the Biden administration is universal, not just in the judiciary.

00:02:35.000 What do you mean by that?

00:02:37.000 Well, I mean, I think if you look throughout the administration, not just in the judiciary, you see just kind of blatant, not just like a thumb on the scale type affirmative action, but a huge load of bricks where being dumped on the scale where race and gender and, you know, whether you're transgender or whatever other alphabet soup you can hit is more relevant than your actual qualifications to do the job.

00:03:02.000 And at one level, as a conservative, I'm kind of happy about that because it makes them less competent.

00:03:07.000 On the other hand, as somebody who would like the government to run well and for people to be judged on merit, it's a very bad thing.

00:03:14.000 Right.

00:03:15.000 And so you say here, can you just walk us through or explain to us some of these numbers?

00:03:21.000 You say out of 97 federal judges, five are white men, 22 are black women.

00:03:28.000 That's right.

00:03:29.000 And, you know, it's really kind of a startling disparity when you consider about half of the attorneys in America.

00:03:36.000 Let's leave the quality issue aside for the moment are white men and about 2%, a little bit less actually, are African-American women.

00:03:44.000 And yet you have a situation where out of 97 federal judges, Biden has selected 22 of them.

00:03:51.000 And of course, including one on the Supreme Court, who he promised based on her race and gender, are African-American women, and just five are white men.

00:03:59.000 And you can't even use, I mean, obviously on the merits, it becomes absurd, but you can't even use a sort of representative argument argument or it's a political coalition because about 27% of Biden's voters were white men, but only 5% of the judges he's selecting are white men.

00:04:17.000 Similarly, only about a little less than 5% of lawyers are African-American, and we already have a federal judiciary that is about two and a half times that in terms of its African-American representativeness.

00:04:29.000 So, even if we want to cast aside issues of quality and fidelity to the Constitution, which I would never ever suggest we do, these just can't be justified even on their own merits of kind of gross coalition politics.

00:04:46.000 It can only be explained by sort of very overt discrimination.

00:04:50.000 So, here's an example of what happens when you allow the post-Civil Rights Act affirmative action anti-racism regime to become policy.

00:05:01.000 And so, Senator Kennedy from Louisiana, who's a very charming and whimsical man, decided to ask one of the more simple questions ever asked in a judicial confirmation hearing.

00:05:10.000 This should have been rather simple.

00:05:13.000 It should have been just kind of like status your name, your date of birth, you know, where you went on vacation.

00:05:18.000 This is not tough stuff, right?

00:05:19.000 This is not explain Marbury versus Madison, which also shouldn't be very tough, but you know, it's very simple, right?

00:05:25.000 It's first-year law school stuff.

00:05:26.000 It's not even that, actually, it's seventh-grade civics stuff, if it's properly taught.

00:05:31.000 And so, this woman by the name of Charnel Bajelkirgin, which is a real word salad of a Scandinavian name, I believe is a diversity pick.

00:05:42.000 I don't know what her race is, it doesn't matter to me, but she does look like a quote-unquote person of color, which you have to assume that's why she was selected.

00:05:49.000 I don't know her race, race really means nothing to me, but it certainly means a lot to Joe Biden.

00:05:53.000 So, listen to this dialogue between Senator Kennedy and Charnel Bajelkirjin about: hey, what is the second article of the Constitution, the fifth article of the U.S. Constitution?

00:06:03.000 Shocking.

00:06:04.000 Play Cut 86.

00:06:06.000 Judge on the far end.

00:06:10.000 Tell me what Article 5 of the Constitution does.

00:06:14.000 Article 5 is not coming to mind at the moment.

00:06:18.000 Okay.

00:06:18.000 How about Article 2?

00:06:20.000 Neither is Article 2.

00:06:22.000 Do you know what purposivism is?

00:06:26.000 In my 12 years as an assistant attorney general and my nine years serving as a judge, I was not faced with that precise question.

00:06:37.000 Jeremy, I mean, I don't get shocked easily anymore.

00:06:41.000 We live in the era of drag queens and child pornography in our schools. 1.00

00:06:45.000 This shocked me. 0.78

00:06:46.000 Yeah.

00:06:47.000 Yeah.

00:06:47.000 Well, it didn't shock me, unfortunately, but I think it was.

00:06:50.000 You're far more cynical than I am.

00:06:53.000 It was great that Senator Kennedy was able to expose that in a sort of very folksy, folksy way.

00:06:58.000 But I mean, this is, you know, the problem, the reason why this matters so much is that these are not four-year appointments.

00:07:04.000 This is not four years we're going to suffer through this.

00:07:06.000 This is 40 years that we may suffer through this with these judges.

00:07:10.000 And so even though I think, and I said this in my Twitter thread, which is at Jeremy Carl4, you can look at it there.

00:07:17.000 Even though we may get rid of these, you know, the Biden administration, and I hope we do in 2024, even though I think the Supreme Court is also likely to strike down affirmative action this term, we are going to have an affirmative action Supreme Court with all of the bad things that flow from that for decades now. 0.67

00:07:36.000 And that's the problem with this sort of picking.

00:07:39.000 Was Charnel Bajelkerjan, was she confirmed or has her vote been scheduled yet?

00:07:45.000 It has not been scheduled yet.

00:07:47.000 There is still some pushback.

00:07:49.000 And I think it would be interesting.

00:07:51.000 I mean, what happened there was so embarrassing that it wouldn't surprise me if she went down.

00:07:56.000 There's another judge that they have, or somebody they're trying to get put forth onto the judiciary.

00:08:03.000 I also tweeted about who is formerly basically the legal director of the SPLC.

00:08:08.000 So I mean, just a really radical activist and somebody who the Republicans already all voted against in committee.

00:08:15.000 But even some Quinn Hilliard, who's a very sort of moderate guy in national review, said basically, if you're an at-all moderate senator, you couldn't possibly vote for this candidate.

00:08:26.000 And it will be interesting to see whether folks like my Democratic senator, John Tester, or folks like Joe Manchin can stomach pretending that these people are moderate or qualified and voting for them.

00:08:39.000 Especially with John Tester in cycle in a presidential year, which he tends to not like those presidential year turnouts.

00:08:46.000 No, no, I'm confident we're going to get rid of him.

00:08:49.000 That's good.

00:08:49.000 I'd love to talk to you about that because Tester is a sneaky guy.

00:08:52.000 He works that state, and there's a lot of suspicious votes that come out of Indian reservations in the eastern part of the state.

00:08:59.000 Magically, all for John Tester, obviously.

00:09:01.000 So I want to ask you, Jeremy, just quickly, and we'll talk about this after the break.

00:09:05.000 You do, the main thrust of your piece is a little less about the judiciary and kind of more about anti-white discrimination, which I do want to talk to you about.

00:09:14.000 You're not allowed to say that.

00:09:15.000 Where does that come from?

00:09:18.000 Where does it come from that you're not allowed to say that?

00:09:20.000 No, Where does anti-white?

00:09:21.000 I mean, I know you're not allowed to say that.

00:09:22.000 That's obvious.

00:09:23.000 Where does the anti-whiteness come from?

00:09:26.000 What is the driving force behind that?

00:09:29.000 Well, I think it's just deeply embedded in Democratic coalition politics right now.

00:09:33.000 I mean, it's just everything is about kind of blaming every bad thing that's happened in America on white people.

00:09:41.000 And I think, you know, some of this can be told as a story of sort of trying to rewrite history where you and the folks, your parents and grandparents are the stars, or some of it can be jealousy or anger, or just frankly, the politics of expropriation.

00:10:00.000 But I think that it's really coming from there.

00:10:02.000 And it's very dangerous because ultimately, if we can't develop a kind of unified American ethnicity, for lack of a better term, we are going to go the way of very many other multi-ethnic empires that kind of dissolved in fractiousness and violence. 0.87

00:10:21.000 And I think it's a real danger with some of the rhetoric coming out of the left right now.

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00:11:34.000 Jeremy, one of the most disturbing phenomena in America is white guilt.

00:11:41.000 Where does it come from?

00:11:42.000 Well, I think, you know, we've had the left controlling the narrative for, you know, decades now, depending on, you know, whether you want to go back to the 1960s, 1930s, even early 20th century.

00:11:54.000 And they've sort of told this story about how America is a bad place.

00:11:57.000 Well, guess what America was, you know, just demographically until the Hard Seller Immigration Act of 1965.

00:12:04.000 It was essentially all African-American and white, and about 90% of it was white.

00:12:09.000 So, you know, if the country is a bad country, well, we know who we have to blame for this.

00:12:13.000 But it's really just been ingrained in all of our elite cultural institutions.

00:12:19.000 It's out there in Hollywood.

00:12:20.000 It's in the books we read.

00:12:22.000 And even out here in Montana, it's sometimes a little bit hard to just get away from that narrative relentlessly beating on you.

00:12:29.000 Yeah, I just, but the idea of the guilt is what's so interesting, though, is that you have to somehow apologize for your skin color.

00:12:39.000 I'm not even saying that your skin color should be something you're proud of. 1.00

00:12:43.000 I'm not even making that contention.

00:12:44.000 I think it's indifferent to it.

00:12:46.000 I think it's irrelevant.

00:12:48.000 But the guilt is a complete, it's that, that's not indifferent or neutrality.

00:12:52.000 That is, I have to pay penance.

00:12:55.000 I have to apologize.

00:12:57.000 I mean, and I mean, Jeremy, it feels as if the kind of new religion is the religion of anti-racism, where I have to tithe, I have to give public proclamations.

00:13:11.000 My original sin is my melanin content.

00:13:14.000 The only difference is that there's no salvation.

00:13:18.000 No, and that you've hit it exactly, right?

00:13:20.000 It's original sin without salvation.

00:13:22.000 I mean, it's really a Christian heresy, ultimately. 0.92

00:13:27.000 And it has to go kind of go back with, I think that the word tithe is also really important here because it kind of gets into what some of this agenda is.

00:13:36.000 And I'm actually writing a book right now for regnary on anti-white racism that should be out sometime next year.

00:13:42.000 I love that.

00:13:42.000 So I'm kind of deeply kind of ingrained thinking about these sorts of issues right now.

00:13:48.000 But when you look at the language of reparations and San Francisco, for example, saying, you know, we're going to pay $5 million plus all this other stuff to each African-American resident of the city, basically, which sounds crazy.

00:14:03.000 I mean, is not going to be doable under any circumstances, but they're going to come up with something that's only a tenth as crazy that will still be completely crazy that we'll do.

00:14:11.000 And a lot of this is just about dollars and cents.

00:14:14.000 It's about, you know, one group trying to expropriate another group.

00:14:19.000 And when you encourage these sorts of racial divisions in society, this is the sort of logic of conflict that you get.

00:14:27.000 And it's all being pushed by white people, which is what's so interesting to me. 0.71

00:14:27.000 Yeah. 0.71

00:14:31.000 And it secular white people, by the way.

00:14:34.000 Yeah.

00:14:35.000 Yeah.

00:14:35.000 Well, Daniel Horowitz, who's at the Manhattan Institute, has done some fascinating research on just how freaky and bizarre, basically, although he doesn't use that language because he's a good academic, liberal white people are in terms of having what's called an out-group preference.

00:14:49.000 Like every group just naturally kind of prefers their own group over other groups on average, you know, to a sort of normal extent.

00:14:57.000 And obviously it can become too much where it really becomes ethnic chauvinism, except for liberal whites.

00:15:03.000 And liberal whites actually prefer substantially non-whites. 0.58

00:15:07.000 I mean, it's a very bizarre thing.

00:15:09.000 African Americans don't have that. 0.99

00:15:10.000 Asian Americans don't have that. 1.00

00:15:12.000 Conservative whites don't have it, or even moderate whites. 0.74

00:15:12.000 Hispanics don't have it. 0.74

00:15:15.000 But it's just the question, right?

00:15:18.000 Is there ever a breaking point to that, right?

00:15:20.000 Where it's, you know, I really love BLM until my Beverly Hills street is ransacked, right?

00:15:26.000 I mean, it's, I wonder if I have not seen the breaking point, actually.

00:15:32.000 I've seen that.

00:15:33.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:15:34.000 Yeah, we keep, we keep waiting for it, right?

00:15:36.000 And I think you're probably sitting there like me going, my goodness, at some point this insanity has to stop.

00:15:42.000 I do think, and this is one of the reasons I initially explored the judge issue, is that there are these elite, quote unquote, white guys out there who are looking at this and realizing that they're not going to be considered on their merits for anything meaningful in this new anti-white regime.

00:16:02.000 And I think at some point for some of them, this will be a breaking point because we sort of have this bizarre situation where if you're a white plumber, you're not necessarily facing a ton of discrimination from the regime, but those guys have moved very, very far to the right.

00:16:17.000 Whereas if you're a white lawyer where you're receiving quite a lot of discrimination from the regime in very overt ways, you still haven't made that move.

00:16:25.000 And over time, I think that is not going to be sustainable.

00:16:28.000 And so they're going to always, this is my prediction.

00:16:30.000 They're going to look for exemptions for white liberals, not by finding some sort of great grandmother from Argentina.

00:16:36.000 No, no, no, no.

00:16:36.000 Exemptions of how much do you do for the environment?

00:16:39.000 How much do you do for allies?

00:16:41.000 So certain white liberals will be excluded from the judgment.

00:16:46.000 They will then be allowed to be allies if you do the appropriate funding or actions towards the anti-racist regime.

00:16:56.000 Otherwise, you're a waste of time. 0.99

00:16:57.000 We hate you. 0.98

00:16:57.000 Jeremy, really important. 0.98

00:16:58.000 Can't wait to read your book.

00:16:59.000 Thank you for talking about this.

00:17:02.000 Thanks for having me on, Charlie.

00:17:02.000 Absolutely.

00:17:03.000 Talk to you soon.

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00:18:14.000 Joining us now from Breitbart.com is Alex Marlow.

00:18:18.000 Alex, welcome to the program.

00:18:19.000 Charlie, it's great to be on with you.

00:18:21.000 You know, I reached out to you in a different circumstance and then I end up on your show.

00:18:24.000 This happens every time.

00:18:25.000 So I've got to constantly need favors from you.

00:18:27.000 There you go.

00:18:28.000 I always end up on your national broadcast.

00:18:30.000 It's great.

00:18:30.000 Well, we got to fill time.

00:18:32.000 So, I mean, we're helping each other.

00:18:34.000 I can do that.

00:18:35.000 That's something I have.

00:18:36.000 Yes, you do.

00:18:37.000 You also host a radio show at an ungodly hour.

00:18:40.000 It's you and Hugh Hewitt.

00:18:42.000 I just, I don't know how you got three o'clock LA time.

00:18:44.000 I just, that's when you start, right?

00:18:46.000 You start at 3 a.m.

00:18:48.000 Yeah, I think it's part of our, if you go back to the early Homo sapiens, I think this is where it comes from.

00:18:54.000 I think I feel like I'm part of the food chain again, where I think a lion is going to attack me if I sleep too long.

00:18:59.000 So I've always been a terrible sleeper anyway.

00:19:02.000 So when the national radio show came up in the middle of the night, I was like, okay, I'll do it.

00:19:06.000 It sounds fine.

00:19:07.000 I'm up anyway.

00:19:08.000 So that's not.

00:19:09.000 Nope.

00:19:11.000 I really don't think I could do it.

00:19:13.000 I don't.

00:19:13.000 So, Alex, there's so many different topics and stories out there.

00:19:16.000 I mean, you hosted a whole show today.

00:19:18.000 What's on your mind?

00:19:19.000 Tell us some interesting things you're seeing and we'll talk about it.

00:19:24.000 Save the Union.

00:19:25.000 We could also talk, Charlie, of course, about what's going on with you and the continued war on free speech, which you covered at Breitbart with you and my friend Dennis Krager.

00:19:32.000 Yes.

00:19:33.000 Just surreal.

00:19:34.000 This is still, I'm getting a little nervous for the country because I thought we might be pushing past the peak of cancel culture.

00:19:42.000 We might be pushing past the point where it's just getting so cringy and called normative people.

00:19:47.000 Dennis Prager is one of the kindest men.

00:19:48.000 He is dedicated to deep thought.

00:19:52.000 You know, I'm listening to you during the break with some of your best up clips that your guests hear, and you're talking, we're recommending people take their significant other to church and how you'll grow in faith by going with your family and your girlfriends, your boyfriends at church.

00:20:05.000 It's such lovely messages.

00:20:07.000 And then you guys are smeared as the worst people on the planet.

00:20:09.000 So, you know, it can't help having gone through what I've gone through at Breitbart News being one of the first outlets that was truly canceled.

00:20:17.000 That's correct.

00:20:18.000 And simply for airing normative, conservative viewpoints.

00:20:22.000 Normative, conservative viewpoints are good enough to get you thrown off of campus, to get you protested, to get you blacklisted.

00:20:29.000 And I thought we were past this, but we're not.

00:20:32.000 And that is why we need to continue to support organizations you care about.

00:20:35.000 It's not enough simply to passively give Charlie, you know, a wink and a nod or to give me a Breitbart a wink and a nod.

00:20:43.000 We have to be vocal and we have to also be kind and cool with people, but we have to be vocal that it's not okay to shut down free speech on campus.

00:20:49.000 Well, what's extraordinary about this particular story?

00:20:52.000 I mean, I get protested all the time, is that this is not being led by students.

00:20:57.000 The students kind of are bored.

00:20:58.000 They're like, okay, yeah, whatever.

00:21:00.000 Where's the weed or whatever?

00:21:02.000 This is professors that it's being led by 37 out of 47 professors are leading this.

00:21:14.000 I mean, so this is a top-down revolution more than it's a bottom-up.

00:21:19.000 Yeah, and that is not, I think, uncommon because I think the people who are in our professoriate now are people who have become accustomed to this and they're so bubbled, which is a famous point.

00:21:30.000 I mean, I don't, I'm not the first to make it.

00:21:32.000 But the fact that they are so bubbled and the fact that they don't know any conservatives, they don't interact with them on a regular basis.

00:21:39.000 They don't understand that you simply have your audience's best interest at heart.

00:21:43.000 They think that you really are who the media says you are.

00:21:47.000 They don't understand that the media is fake news.

00:21:50.000 They don't understand that it's agenda-driven, that American press is becoming some of the worst press on the planet.

00:21:56.000 And because of that, I think that they feel like this is not just a viewpoint that is true, but that they think they'll actually score accolades in their community.

00:22:05.000 And that's what we need to disincentivize.

00:22:07.000 And you can only do it by cutting off your school if you don't.

00:22:10.000 I totally agree.

00:22:13.000 Yeah, I mean, and so that these people are what my favorite part of the whole thing, and you'll get a kick out of this house because you know Dennis is that the name of the talk is Health, Wealth, and Happiness.

00:22:23.000 And Dennis is the happiness guy.

00:22:25.000 I mean, he does a whole hour on it.

00:22:28.000 He wrote a fabulous book on it.

00:22:29.000 Happiness is a serious problem.

00:22:31.000 So if you want to talk about it, he's pretty well qualified.

00:22:34.000 I don't know why they're having me for happiness.

00:22:35.000 That's a separate issue.

00:22:36.000 But my favorite part is the most vocal person that is coming out against Dennis Prager and our visit is a religious studies scholar.

00:22:47.000 And I mean, this guy, if you were to say, okay, I'm a religious studies scholar and I'm going to go on the record that Dennis Prager does not belong at my university.

00:22:58.000 Just a little bit of a lack of self-awareness.

00:23:00.000 I mean, Prager is, I say this, I don't think anybody alive, alive, has written about, talked about, or published more on the first five books of the Bible than Dennis Prager.

00:23:11.000 Maybe the religious studies scholar at Arizona State University could learn something from him.

00:23:15.000 His rational Bible books, they're so important.

00:23:19.000 I'm going to review them probably for the rest of my life.

00:23:21.000 They're amazing.

00:23:22.000 They're so rich and deep.

00:23:23.000 And oh my goodness.

00:23:25.000 And I think that's how Dennis intended it.

00:23:27.000 And that's how he's dedicated his portion of his life.

00:23:30.000 And the thought that that would be some sort of hatred is it's absurd, but the point is simply to make it so it's too much of a hassle for people like you and me and Dennis to do what we want to do with our lives, which is try to inform people about values and politics and faith and the things that can help them achieve health, wealth, and happiness.

00:23:49.000 They just want to make it so that our lives are difficult.

00:23:51.000 There's not a pure bone in their body.

00:23:53.000 And this is why it's such a true outrage that you can't talk about enough.

00:24:00.000 Yep, I agree.

00:24:01.000 So shifting gears here, State of the Union, what was your big takeaway, Alex?

00:24:05.000 Despite the slurs and all that, I tweeted and I said, I think one of Biden's superpowers is that he's hard for most people to hate, easy to try to elicit sympathy, but there's almost like this stealth mode that he's able to be incredibly radical while the veneer is kind of a deranged foreign agent.

00:24:22.000 What's your thoughts?

00:24:24.000 Yeah, I think that Biden has done something very clever.

00:24:27.000 I think he, at least at one point, had a real fastball.

00:24:30.000 And I think that what he's done is he has leaned into this, this persona where he's this bumbling, stuttering guy.

00:24:38.000 You probably saw the New York Times big story about his stutter and how he's going to overcome his stutter to give this speech.

00:24:43.000 He gives this sort of sympathetic narrative to him.

00:24:46.000 And I think in actuality, he really is the person in American politics who understands how to move the levers of power most efficiently and most effectively, which is not saying much because our political class is not overly impressive these days.

00:24:59.000 But beware of people who just pawn him off as some sort of a dummy and some sort of demented person.

00:25:05.000 Now, I'm sure he is having some level of dementia.

00:25:08.000 I'm not dismissing that, but I think that he has really lowered the bar for himself to such a low level that you see that the approval rating of the speech was pretty high.

00:25:16.000 Charlie, it was an objectively terrible speech.

00:25:18.000 He demonized, he lied, he failed to unify, that he called for unity.

00:25:23.000 He didn't come up with one bipartisan issue.

00:25:25.000 It was one of these things where you call for unity, but just so long as you agree with Joe Biden on everything.

00:25:30.000 But the thing that struck me the most about the speech were the own goals.

00:25:35.000 Charlie, which politician in this country has spent the most time in Washington of any politician, maybe of all time?

00:25:42.000 It's got to be the guy that's in the White House.

00:25:44.000 Yeah.

00:25:45.000 Right.

00:25:45.000 So if the tax code is ruined, if our infrastructure is going in the wrong direction, if we are, if the Fenton Hill is streaming over our borders and killing people, then whose fault is this?

00:25:56.000 Of course, it's Joe Biden's fault more than any other person.

00:25:58.000 Now, there's sheer blame, but I found it absolutely surreal to watch him claim all these grievances with the government that he's been responsible for more than any other person.

00:26:10.000 And so secondly, did you see, and again, it's Joe Biden is nothing more than just chat GPT as a president, right?

00:26:10.000 Yeah.

00:26:18.000 They just input whatever the AI is just what it is.

00:26:21.000 So, I mean, it's not him, right?

00:26:23.000 It's the Leviathan behind him.

00:26:25.000 However, it is an interesting time.

00:26:27.000 It's a high-stakes speech.

00:26:28.000 They obviously had a lot of people involved.

00:26:29.000 Every word was poll tested.

00:26:31.000 It was run through, you know, vast algorithmic analysis.

00:26:35.000 I saw a little bit of a hand tilt that there was at least we're going to do a little bit of the populist nationalist theatrical performance that, and that frustrates, obviously should frustrate you. 0.90

00:26:50.000 It's all lies and it's nonsense and it's deceit.

00:26:53.000 But is the populist vote one that Democrats are going to try to chip away at in 2024?

00:27:01.000 I think with rhetoric, but if you follow Biden, Biden's rhetoric has never exactly matched his policies.

00:27:10.000 His policies, his rhetoric tends to match the whatever is what he thinks will curry the most favor with the media.

00:27:18.000 And then the policies is whatever he thinks would curry most favor with the voters.

00:27:23.000 And I gave a lot of examples of this.

00:27:24.000 Foreign policy is a key one where he talks very tough on Putin.

00:27:28.000 And over the years, he's been very weak on Russia.

00:27:30.000 And I could do a whole dissertation on that topic.

00:27:33.000 He talks very tough on China.

00:27:35.000 I think it's pretty famous what Joe Biden's actual China policy is.

00:27:38.000 So this is kind of how he's always operated.

00:27:41.000 So, yeah, it is noteworthy that he was lying about Republicans wanting to repeal Medicare and Social Security.

00:27:47.000 I think that for really casual political observers, that could be a good political talking point.

00:27:52.000 We know Republicans are not talking about that at all.

00:27:54.000 We not to say they shouldn't be.

00:27:55.000 I'm not judging that.

00:27:57.000 I'm just saying, Charlie, you interact with as many conservatives as anyone.

00:28:00.000 So do I.

00:28:01.000 It's not a topic.

00:28:02.000 We never talk about it.

00:28:03.000 It's not discussed.

00:28:04.000 It hasn't been discussed in years.

00:28:05.000 And it's one of these things where Biden was smearing people about it.

00:28:09.000 It was good that the Republicans, by the way, were started oohing and aweing and kind of cutting in there.

00:28:14.000 It's all theatrics anyway.

00:28:16.000 So to have those sort of smears.

00:28:18.000 But there's some moments where I don't think that I don't think that tactic works.

00:28:23.000 You saw, Charlie, that he was blaming.

00:28:26.000 Yeah, he blaming January the 6th for the Paul Pelosi attack, claiming victory over China with the spy balloon having just passed through our country. 0.92

00:28:34.000 All of that is just ridiculous to any paying attention audience.

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00:29:13.000 Alex, we played this tape earlier.

00:29:16.000 It's a long tape, so I won't play it because our time is valuable together.

00:29:19.000 But Joy Reed said that the culture war is over and the left has won the culture war.

00:29:23.000 Breitbart has been one of the few people that first wanted to fight the culture war and then said the importance of the culture war.

00:29:29.000 So I can't think of a better guest to just kind of get your analysis of where do we stand.

00:29:34.000 Your thoughts on Joy Reed saying the left has now won the culture war.

00:29:38.000 I mean, she's not speaking from any point of authority on this, and she's a provocateur more than anyone maybe on cable news.

00:29:45.000 So I don't take her opinion from coming from her, she's got an authority on this matter.

00:29:50.000 But if you think about it, there is a narrative that would support her point.

00:29:54.000 And the thing that disturbs me the most is what's happened with our corporations.

00:29:58.000 We know famously that the media and that the entertainment industry has been co-opted by the left as well as our academic institutions.

00:30:07.000 Charlie, you and I know all of that pretty well.

00:30:09.000 I'm not thrilled with how the right has done responding to the entertainment media.

00:30:14.000 We just have not created enough stuff.

00:30:15.000 I know some of our and I know some of our friends are trying.

00:30:19.000 The aforementioned Dennis Prager, I know, is trying.

00:30:21.000 Daily Wire is trying.

00:30:22.000 God bless him.

00:30:22.000 They're doing it.

00:30:22.000 Daily Wire's trying.

00:30:23.000 Yeah, sure.

00:30:24.000 And but it's not enough at this point.

00:30:27.000 So many years after Andrew warned us.

00:30:29.000 But what does make me think maybe she's right is the corporate stuff, which has really become my obsession over the past few years, starting with big tech and realizing it's so many.

00:30:38.000 I mean, just look at what Disney's doing now with their with which is entertainment too, but it's just a mega conglomerate with their proud family stuff trying to cancel Lincoln.

00:30:48.000 They're canceling Lincoln now, Charlie.

00:30:50.000 If they moved on to canceling Lincoln, if they feel like everyone else has been canceled, name me one person who would cancel Lincoln.

00:30:55.000 Name me one.

00:30:56.000 Well, I'll tell you, it's Disney.

00:30:57.000 Disney's trying to do it.

00:30:58.000 And it does make you think maybe she's right. 0.94

00:31:00.000 And that's sad to me.

00:31:02.000 And I'm not going to stop fighting personally.

00:31:03.000 I know you won't either.

00:31:05.000 But it makes you think maybe we need to change some tactics here.

00:31:07.000 And I think there's a question of winning versus one.

00:31:11.000 And so I think they're definitely winning, but to say that the battle is won, I think, is not correct.

00:31:17.000 In fact, I hope she thinks that it will make them less aggressive, more lazy, more slothful, and more likely to fight within themselves.

00:31:24.000 Final thought, final question on this, Alex.

00:31:27.000 We have about three minutes remaining.

00:31:28.000 When I saw Joe Biden meander into the State of the Union, it kind of hit me.

00:31:31.000 I said, wow, the masters of the Democrat Party, it's obviously not him.

00:31:35.000 He's just doing what they tell him to do.

00:31:36.000 They are very confident, though, in the machinery and their ability to plug almost anything in.

00:31:41.000 I say this.

00:31:42.000 I say if Republicans are not serious about creating a ballot chasing operation, voter registration, ballot curing, data operation, which I do not have faith or confidence in the current RNC regime to do, they could run John Fetterman for the presidency and get him in there.

00:31:53.000 That's not a joke they could do it.

00:31:55.000 Your thoughts, Alex?

00:31:56.000 Correct.

00:31:56.000 I said the exact same thing when Katie Tur floated John Fetterman as a presidential candidate, right after he won his senate seat.

00:32:04.000 100% he's presidential candidate.

00:32:05.000 Who isn't?

00:32:06.000 It's the, they're all interchangeable.

00:32:09.000 I'm personally interested in Joe Biden for some perverted reason.

00:32:14.000 I don't understand why, but I am.

00:32:16.000 But I'm not overly interested in Kamala Harris.

00:32:18.000 It's just one of these things where just some people are just more interesting news-wise than others.

00:32:23.000 But the exact opposite.

00:32:24.000 I've never been less interested in a human being than Joe Biden.

00:32:27.000 It's just so interesting.

00:32:28.000 Yeah, keep going.

00:32:29.000 Well, I find it fascinating.

00:32:31.000 I think for some of the stuff you're saying is that he is so unbelievably unimpressive and yet has somehow gotten himself more power than arguably any American president of the last hundred years and maybe any American over the last 100 plus years, just insane levels, at least back to World War II, which is just unbelievable that that's the case.

00:32:50.000 And considering how unimpressive he is, but it proves your point.

00:32:53.000 Your point is they're all interchangeable, almost all of them.

00:32:57.000 Pete Butta Jedge, Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, Joe Biden.

00:33:01.000 There's a dime's worth of difference in how they would govern.

00:33:03.000 And that's something that really needs to wake people up is we need to not think about the individual as much as we need to think about the process.

00:33:09.000 Now, the individuals are interesting.

00:33:11.000 They're characters for us who cover the news, but it is the process that they have nailed.

00:33:15.000 And we do not have it nailed on the right.

00:33:18.000 I think that's right.

00:33:19.000 And they're better at the game, which is to put the pieces of paper in the ballot boxes in a truncated piece of time.

00:33:29.000 They know it, and so they could run anybody for it.

00:33:31.000 Any announcements, things you want to talk about, Alex?

00:33:33.000 Things you're working on, books, projects, 30%?

00:33:36.000 No, yeah, not really.

00:33:38.000 I actually do some big stuff that is in the works that I would love to come back and talk about when it's ready to go.

00:33:43.000 But in the meantime, Breitbart.com is a place to go and always happy for all the support and all the sharing our content.

00:33:49.000 All the social web is really great.

00:33:50.000 I go to Breitbart.com every day.

00:33:52.000 Alex, God bless you, man.

00:33:53.000 Talk to you soon.

00:33:54.000 Thank you.

00:33:55.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:56.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:34:00.000 Thank you so much for listening.

00:34:01.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - February 09, 2023

America's New Anti-White Religion with Jeremy Carl and Alex Marlow

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