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00:01:18.000One of the great successes of the Trump presidency that I don't think he got enough credit for, President Trump, was what he was able to do with the federal bench.
00:01:31.000One of the reasons why I support Donald Trump in 2024 is because of how clear and courageous he was in putting constitutionalist judges on both the Supreme Court and on the federal bench.
00:01:48.000Not everybody enjoys hearing about it, but these are people with enormous amounts of power to interpret the Constitution of whether or not your liberties and freedoms deserve to be protected or taken away.
00:02:02.000Someone's been really tracking, someone's been tracking this in a really interesting way.
00:02:06.000I met him a year and a half ago at the Claremont Institute deal.
00:02:10.000The Lincoln Fellowship was tons of fun.
00:02:12.000I'm actually in the middle of another Claremont class right now, which is very challenging and worthwhile.
00:02:17.000And he's done some fabulous research on this, and I look forward to discussing it with him.
00:02:25.000So, Jeremy, walk us through your tweet and explain it to us where you say, quote, anti-white discrimination in the Biden administration is universal, not just in the judiciary.
00:02:37.000Well, I mean, I think if you look throughout the administration, not just in the judiciary, you see just kind of blatant, not just like a thumb on the scale type affirmative action, but a huge load of bricks where being dumped on the scale where race and gender and, you know, whether you're transgender or whatever other alphabet soup you can hit is more relevant than your actual qualifications to do the job.
00:03:02.000And at one level, as a conservative, I'm kind of happy about that because it makes them less competent.
00:03:07.000On the other hand, as somebody who would like the government to run well and for people to be judged on merit, it's a very bad thing.
00:03:29.000And, you know, it's really kind of a startling disparity when you consider about half of the attorneys in America.
00:03:36.000Let's leave the quality issue aside for the moment are white men and about 2%, a little bit less actually, are African-American women.
00:03:44.000And yet you have a situation where out of 97 federal judges, Biden has selected 22 of them.
00:03:51.000And of course, including one on the Supreme Court, who he promised based on her race and gender, are African-American women, and just five are white men.
00:03:59.000And you can't even use, I mean, obviously on the merits, it becomes absurd, but you can't even use a sort of representative argument argument or it's a political coalition because about 27% of Biden's voters were white men, but only 5% of the judges he's selecting are white men.
00:04:17.000Similarly, only about a little less than 5% of lawyers are African-American, and we already have a federal judiciary that is about two and a half times that in terms of its African-American representativeness.
00:04:29.000So, even if we want to cast aside issues of quality and fidelity to the Constitution, which I would never ever suggest we do, these just can't be justified even on their own merits of kind of gross coalition politics.
00:04:46.000It can only be explained by sort of very overt discrimination.
00:04:50.000So, here's an example of what happens when you allow the post-Civil Rights Act affirmative action anti-racism regime to become policy.
00:05:01.000And so, Senator Kennedy from Louisiana, who's a very charming and whimsical man, decided to ask one of the more simple questions ever asked in a judicial confirmation hearing.
00:05:26.000It's not even that, actually, it's seventh-grade civics stuff, if it's properly taught.
00:05:31.000And so, this woman by the name of Charnel Bajelkirgin, which is a real word salad of a Scandinavian name, I believe is a diversity pick.
00:05:42.000I don't know what her race is, it doesn't matter to me, but she does look like a quote-unquote person of color, which you have to assume that's why she was selected.
00:05:49.000I don't know her race, race really means nothing to me, but it certainly means a lot to Joe Biden.
00:05:53.000So, listen to this dialogue between Senator Kennedy and Charnel Bajelkirjin about: hey, what is the second article of the Constitution, the fifth article of the U.S. Constitution?
00:06:53.000It was great that Senator Kennedy was able to expose that in a sort of very folksy, folksy way.
00:06:58.000But I mean, this is, you know, the problem, the reason why this matters so much is that these are not four-year appointments.
00:07:04.000This is not four years we're going to suffer through this.
00:07:06.000This is 40 years that we may suffer through this with these judges.
00:07:10.000And so even though I think, and I said this in my Twitter thread, which is at Jeremy Carl4, you can look at it there.
00:07:17.000Even though we may get rid of these, you know, the Biden administration, and I hope we do in 2024, even though I think the Supreme Court is also likely to strike down affirmative action this term, we are going to have an affirmative action Supreme Court with all of the bad things that flow from that for decades now.
00:07:36.000And that's the problem with this sort of picking.
00:07:39.000Was Charnel Bajelkerjan, was she confirmed or has her vote been scheduled yet?
00:07:51.000I mean, what happened there was so embarrassing that it wouldn't surprise me if she went down.
00:07:56.000There's another judge that they have, or somebody they're trying to get put forth onto the judiciary.
00:08:03.000I also tweeted about who is formerly basically the legal director of the SPLC.
00:08:08.000So I mean, just a really radical activist and somebody who the Republicans already all voted against in committee.
00:08:15.000But even some Quinn Hilliard, who's a very sort of moderate guy in national review, said basically, if you're an at-all moderate senator, you couldn't possibly vote for this candidate.
00:08:26.000And it will be interesting to see whether folks like my Democratic senator, John Tester, or folks like Joe Manchin can stomach pretending that these people are moderate or qualified and voting for them.
00:08:39.000Especially with John Tester in cycle in a presidential year, which he tends to not like those presidential year turnouts.
00:08:46.000No, no, I'm confident we're going to get rid of him.
00:08:49.000I'd love to talk to you about that because Tester is a sneaky guy.
00:08:52.000He works that state, and there's a lot of suspicious votes that come out of Indian reservations in the eastern part of the state.
00:08:59.000Magically, all for John Tester, obviously.
00:09:01.000So I want to ask you, Jeremy, just quickly, and we'll talk about this after the break.
00:09:05.000You do, the main thrust of your piece is a little less about the judiciary and kind of more about anti-white discrimination, which I do want to talk to you about.
00:09:23.000Where does the anti-whiteness come from?
00:09:26.000What is the driving force behind that?
00:09:29.000Well, I think it's just deeply embedded in Democratic coalition politics right now.
00:09:33.000I mean, it's just everything is about kind of blaming every bad thing that's happened in America on white people.
00:09:41.000And I think, you know, some of this can be told as a story of sort of trying to rewrite history where you and the folks, your parents and grandparents are the stars, or some of it can be jealousy or anger, or just frankly, the politics of expropriation.
00:10:00.000But I think that it's really coming from there.
00:10:02.000And it's very dangerous because ultimately, if we can't develop a kind of unified American ethnicity, for lack of a better term, we are going to go the way of very many other multi-ethnic empires that kind of dissolved in fractiousness and violence.
00:10:21.000And I think it's a real danger with some of the rhetoric coming out of the left right now.
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00:11:42.000Well, I think, you know, we've had the left controlling the narrative for, you know, decades now, depending on, you know, whether you want to go back to the 1960s, 1930s, even early 20th century.
00:11:54.000And they've sort of told this story about how America is a bad place.
00:11:57.000Well, guess what America was, you know, just demographically until the Hard Seller Immigration Act of 1965.
00:12:04.000It was essentially all African-American and white, and about 90% of it was white.
00:12:09.000So, you know, if the country is a bad country, well, we know who we have to blame for this.
00:12:13.000But it's really just been ingrained in all of our elite cultural institutions.
00:12:57.000I mean, and I mean, Jeremy, it feels as if the kind of new religion is the religion of anti-racism, where I have to tithe, I have to give public proclamations.
00:13:11.000My original sin is my melanin content.
00:13:14.000The only difference is that there's no salvation.
00:13:18.000No, and that you've hit it exactly, right?
00:13:22.000I mean, it's really a Christian heresy, ultimately.
00:13:27.000And it has to go kind of go back with, I think that the word tithe is also really important here because it kind of gets into what some of this agenda is.
00:13:36.000And I'm actually writing a book right now for regnary on anti-white racism that should be out sometime next year.
00:13:42.000So I'm kind of deeply kind of ingrained thinking about these sorts of issues right now.
00:13:48.000But when you look at the language of reparations and San Francisco, for example, saying, you know, we're going to pay $5 million plus all this other stuff to each African-American resident of the city, basically, which sounds crazy.
00:14:03.000I mean, is not going to be doable under any circumstances, but they're going to come up with something that's only a tenth as crazy that will still be completely crazy that we'll do.
00:14:11.000And a lot of this is just about dollars and cents.
00:14:14.000It's about, you know, one group trying to expropriate another group.
00:14:19.000And when you encourage these sorts of racial divisions in society, this is the sort of logic of conflict that you get.
00:14:27.000And it's all being pushed by white people, which is what's so interesting to me.
00:14:35.000Well, Daniel Horowitz, who's at the Manhattan Institute, has done some fascinating research on just how freaky and bizarre, basically, although he doesn't use that language because he's a good academic, liberal white people are in terms of having what's called an out-group preference.
00:14:49.000Like every group just naturally kind of prefers their own group over other groups on average, you know, to a sort of normal extent.
00:14:57.000And obviously it can become too much where it really becomes ethnic chauvinism, except for liberal whites.
00:15:03.000And liberal whites actually prefer substantially non-whites.
00:15:34.000Yeah, we keep, we keep waiting for it, right?
00:15:36.000And I think you're probably sitting there like me going, my goodness, at some point this insanity has to stop.
00:15:42.000I do think, and this is one of the reasons I initially explored the judge issue, is that there are these elite, quote unquote, white guys out there who are looking at this and realizing that they're not going to be considered on their merits for anything meaningful in this new anti-white regime.
00:16:02.000And I think at some point for some of them, this will be a breaking point because we sort of have this bizarre situation where if you're a white plumber, you're not necessarily facing a ton of discrimination from the regime, but those guys have moved very, very far to the right.
00:16:17.000Whereas if you're a white lawyer where you're receiving quite a lot of discrimination from the regime in very overt ways, you still haven't made that move.
00:16:25.000And over time, I think that is not going to be sustainable.
00:16:28.000And so they're going to always, this is my prediction.
00:16:30.000They're going to look for exemptions for white liberals, not by finding some sort of great grandmother from Argentina.
00:19:25.000We could also talk, Charlie, of course, about what's going on with you and the continued war on free speech, which you covered at Breitbart with you and my friend Dennis Krager.
00:19:52.000You know, I'm listening to you during the break with some of your best up clips that your guests hear, and you're talking, we're recommending people take their significant other to church and how you'll grow in faith by going with your family and your girlfriends, your boyfriends at church.
00:20:07.000And then you guys are smeared as the worst people on the planet.
00:20:09.000So, you know, it can't help having gone through what I've gone through at Breitbart News being one of the first outlets that was truly canceled.
00:20:18.000And simply for airing normative, conservative viewpoints.
00:20:22.000Normative, conservative viewpoints are good enough to get you thrown off of campus, to get you protested, to get you blacklisted.
00:20:29.000And I thought we were past this, but we're not.
00:20:32.000And that is why we need to continue to support organizations you care about.
00:20:35.000It's not enough simply to passively give Charlie, you know, a wink and a nod or to give me a Breitbart a wink and a nod.
00:20:43.000We have to be vocal and we have to also be kind and cool with people, but we have to be vocal that it's not okay to shut down free speech on campus.
00:20:49.000Well, what's extraordinary about this particular story?
00:20:52.000I mean, I get protested all the time, is that this is not being led by students.
00:21:02.000This is professors that it's being led by 37 out of 47 professors are leading this.
00:21:14.000I mean, so this is a top-down revolution more than it's a bottom-up.
00:21:19.000Yeah, and that is not, I think, uncommon because I think the people who are in our professoriate now are people who have become accustomed to this and they're so bubbled, which is a famous point.
00:21:30.000I mean, I don't, I'm not the first to make it.
00:21:32.000But the fact that they are so bubbled and the fact that they don't know any conservatives, they don't interact with them on a regular basis.
00:21:39.000They don't understand that you simply have your audience's best interest at heart.
00:21:43.000They think that you really are who the media says you are.
00:21:47.000They don't understand that the media is fake news.
00:21:50.000They don't understand that it's agenda-driven, that American press is becoming some of the worst press on the planet.
00:21:56.000And because of that, I think that they feel like this is not just a viewpoint that is true, but that they think they'll actually score accolades in their community.
00:22:05.000And that's what we need to disincentivize.
00:22:07.000And you can only do it by cutting off your school if you don't.
00:22:13.000Yeah, I mean, and so that these people are what my favorite part of the whole thing, and you'll get a kick out of this house because you know Dennis is that the name of the talk is Health, Wealth, and Happiness.
00:22:36.000But my favorite part is the most vocal person that is coming out against Dennis Prager and our visit is a religious studies scholar.
00:22:47.000And I mean, this guy, if you were to say, okay, I'm a religious studies scholar and I'm going to go on the record that Dennis Prager does not belong at my university.
00:22:58.000Just a little bit of a lack of self-awareness.
00:23:00.000I mean, Prager is, I say this, I don't think anybody alive, alive, has written about, talked about, or published more on the first five books of the Bible than Dennis Prager.
00:23:11.000Maybe the religious studies scholar at Arizona State University could learn something from him.
00:23:15.000His rational Bible books, they're so important.
00:23:19.000I'm going to review them probably for the rest of my life.
00:23:25.000And I think that's how Dennis intended it.
00:23:27.000And that's how he's dedicated his portion of his life.
00:23:30.000And the thought that that would be some sort of hatred is it's absurd, but the point is simply to make it so it's too much of a hassle for people like you and me and Dennis to do what we want to do with our lives, which is try to inform people about values and politics and faith and the things that can help them achieve health, wealth, and happiness.
00:23:49.000They just want to make it so that our lives are difficult.
00:23:51.000There's not a pure bone in their body.
00:23:53.000And this is why it's such a true outrage that you can't talk about enough.
00:24:01.000So shifting gears here, State of the Union, what was your big takeaway, Alex?
00:24:05.000Despite the slurs and all that, I tweeted and I said, I think one of Biden's superpowers is that he's hard for most people to hate, easy to try to elicit sympathy, but there's almost like this stealth mode that he's able to be incredibly radical while the veneer is kind of a deranged foreign agent.
00:24:24.000Yeah, I think that Biden has done something very clever.
00:24:27.000I think he, at least at one point, had a real fastball.
00:24:30.000And I think that what he's done is he has leaned into this, this persona where he's this bumbling, stuttering guy.
00:24:38.000You probably saw the New York Times big story about his stutter and how he's going to overcome his stutter to give this speech.
00:24:43.000He gives this sort of sympathetic narrative to him.
00:24:46.000And I think in actuality, he really is the person in American politics who understands how to move the levers of power most efficiently and most effectively, which is not saying much because our political class is not overly impressive these days.
00:24:59.000But beware of people who just pawn him off as some sort of a dummy and some sort of demented person.
00:25:05.000Now, I'm sure he is having some level of dementia.
00:25:08.000I'm not dismissing that, but I think that he has really lowered the bar for himself to such a low level that you see that the approval rating of the speech was pretty high.
00:25:16.000Charlie, it was an objectively terrible speech.
00:25:18.000He demonized, he lied, he failed to unify, that he called for unity.
00:25:23.000He didn't come up with one bipartisan issue.
00:25:25.000It was one of these things where you call for unity, but just so long as you agree with Joe Biden on everything.
00:25:30.000But the thing that struck me the most about the speech were the own goals.
00:25:35.000Charlie, which politician in this country has spent the most time in Washington of any politician, maybe of all time?
00:25:42.000It's got to be the guy that's in the White House.
00:25:45.000So if the tax code is ruined, if our infrastructure is going in the wrong direction, if we are, if the Fenton Hill is streaming over our borders and killing people, then whose fault is this?
00:25:56.000Of course, it's Joe Biden's fault more than any other person.
00:25:58.000Now, there's sheer blame, but I found it absolutely surreal to watch him claim all these grievances with the government that he's been responsible for more than any other person.
00:26:10.000And so secondly, did you see, and again, it's Joe Biden is nothing more than just chat GPT as a president, right?
00:26:31.000It was run through, you know, vast algorithmic analysis.
00:26:35.000I saw a little bit of a hand tilt that there was at least we're going to do a little bit of the populist nationalist theatrical performance that, and that frustrates, obviously should frustrate you.
00:26:50.000It's all lies and it's nonsense and it's deceit.
00:26:53.000But is the populist vote one that Democrats are going to try to chip away at in 2024?
00:27:01.000I think with rhetoric, but if you follow Biden, Biden's rhetoric has never exactly matched his policies.
00:27:10.000His policies, his rhetoric tends to match the whatever is what he thinks will curry the most favor with the media.
00:27:18.000And then the policies is whatever he thinks would curry most favor with the voters.
00:28:18.000But there's some moments where I don't think that I don't think that tactic works.
00:28:23.000You saw, Charlie, that he was blaming.
00:28:26.000Yeah, he blaming January the 6th for the Paul Pelosi attack, claiming victory over China with the spy balloon having just passed through our country.
00:28:34.000All of that is just ridiculous to any paying attention audience.
00:30:29.000But what does make me think maybe she's right is the corporate stuff, which has really become my obsession over the past few years, starting with big tech and realizing it's so many.
00:30:38.000I mean, just look at what Disney's doing now with their with which is entertainment too, but it's just a mega conglomerate with their proud family stuff trying to cancel Lincoln.
00:30:48.000They're canceling Lincoln now, Charlie.
00:30:50.000If they moved on to canceling Lincoln, if they feel like everyone else has been canceled, name me one person who would cancel Lincoln.
00:31:42.000I say if Republicans are not serious about creating a ballot chasing operation, voter registration, ballot curing, data operation, which I do not have faith or confidence in the current RNC regime to do, they could run John Fetterman for the presidency and get him in there.
00:32:31.000I think for some of the stuff you're saying is that he is so unbelievably unimpressive and yet has somehow gotten himself more power than arguably any American president of the last hundred years and maybe any American over the last 100 plus years, just insane levels, at least back to World War II, which is just unbelievable that that's the case.
00:32:50.000And considering how unimpressive he is, but it proves your point.
00:32:53.000Your point is they're all interchangeable, almost all of them.
00:32:57.000Pete Butta Jedge, Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, Joe Biden.
00:33:01.000There's a dime's worth of difference in how they would govern.
00:33:03.000And that's something that really needs to wake people up is we need to not think about the individual as much as we need to think about the process.