The Charlie Kirk Show - America's Youngest Generation + Family Formation, Big Tech, and the Higher Ed Scam

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00:00:08.000 Hey, everybody.

00:00:08.000 Happy Monday.

00:00:09.000 What are you supposed to do about big tech?

00:00:11.000 How about family formation in America?

00:00:13.000 I just had a really interesting conversation at the Steamboat Institute in Vail, Colorado that I want to share with you that is going to be exclusively aired here on the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:23.000 We get into many different types of topics as to what is happening with the younger generation and what can we do to actually fix it.

00:00:29.000 I've been barnstorming the country post the Republican National Convention.

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00:00:52.000 Important conversation here from the Steamboat Institute.

00:00:54.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:56.000 Here we go.

00:00:57.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:58.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:01:01.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:01:04.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:01:07.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:08.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:09.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:18.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:26.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:30.000 All right, and I'm going to start it off here quickly with just a, if I can take one minute and tell you a little bit about my college experience, right?

00:01:37.000 So I went to a very liberal college.

00:01:40.000 I wrote a paper.

00:01:41.000 This is about eight, ten years before you were born.

00:01:45.000 So I wrote a paper that I didn't really believe in it.

00:01:47.000 I thought it was a fun experiment, though, a fun intellectual experiment.

00:01:51.000 I wrote a defense of monarchy just for fun.

00:01:53.000 And I think if I were in college now, I think I'd be afraid to write that paper, just in terms of what could happen.

00:01:59.000 I was the editor-in-chief of our school's conservative libertarian newspaper.

00:02:03.000 I ran for school government office, and people went around writing fascist on my posters, which is a weird thing to write about a libertarian Jew, but what are you going to do?

00:02:14.000 But I don't think I, I don't know that I would have, I didn't feel unsafe physically, but I think if I had, if I wrote now what I had written then, I might fear for my physical health.

00:02:26.000 And the last thing is, you know, if I had wanted to go around my college campus and talk to people about whatever back 10 years before you were born, I might have had a lot of people disagree with me, but I would have been able to do it.

00:02:36.000 These days, you can't actually go around on a lot of college campuses and just talk.

00:02:40.000 Free speech zones and things like that.

00:02:42.000 I'm sure you guys will talk about. 0.96

00:02:45.000 And it seems to me that universities have gone from being liberal-leaning to aggressively anti-intellectual and aggressively ignorant.

00:02:57.000 And I'm really looking forward to hear you two talking about that.

00:03:00.000 Charlie Kirk, one of the most prominent young conservatives in the country today, a favorite source of President Trump's retweets, founder and president of Turning Point USA, which is a nationwide student organization dedicated to the important but I think increasingly difficult task of teaching and encouraging young people to promote individual liberty, limited government, and free markets.

00:03:25.000 Charlie hosts the Charlie Kirk Show and is the author of the MAGA Doctrine, The Only Ideas That Will Win the Future, that was published early this year.

00:03:33.000 Congrats on publishing a book.

00:03:35.000 Kelsey Bolar is a contributor to the Federalist.

00:03:37.000 There'll be some other Federalist folks here with us this weekend and to the Daily Signal, which I commend to you if you don't know about the Daily Signal.

00:03:44.000 Excellent.

00:03:45.000 Senior policy analyst at the Independent Women's Forum.

00:03:49.000 And in 2017, she held the Tony Blankly Chair for Public Policy and American Exceptionalism right here at the Steamboat Institute.

00:03:57.000 Quite an honor.

00:03:57.000 Congrats on that.

00:03:58.000 And suggesting that Kelsey is a little geographically confused, she and her family live in Washington, D.C. with an Australian shepherd named Utah.

00:04:08.000 So pick a place and stick with it.

00:04:10.000 All right, I'm going to give Charlie the mic now. 0.51

00:04:13.000 Hypodermics on the shore, giants of the martial law.

00:04:27.000 It's so great to be back at the Steamboat Institute once again.

00:04:31.000 My bio does need a slight update.

00:04:34.000 For those of you who I saw last year, you might remember me.

00:04:37.000 Seven months pregnant on stage about losing my breath in this altitude.

00:04:41.000 A few of you were concerned that I might pass out on stage.

00:04:44.000 I was concerned myself too.

00:04:47.000 But this year I am back with my almost one-year-old daughter who came not long after you both saw me.

00:04:54.000 So it's been quite a year for me personally, for this country.

00:04:59.000 We have a lot to talk about.

00:05:01.000 And as I was thinking about what we want to discuss on this panel today, I was looking at the title, Restoring Free Speech and Ideological Diversity on College Campuses.

00:05:12.000 And this morning I was scrolling through Twitter, seeing a bunch of videos of people who attended the RNC last night, including Senator Rand Paul.

00:05:23.000 You were there last night too.

00:05:24.000 Well, Charlie opened the entire RNC in case you missed that.

00:05:28.000 And I saw these videos of these Trump supporters being physically attacked.

00:05:34.000 And it made me realize it's not just restoring free speech on college campuses that we need to do.

00:05:40.000 We need to restore peace on college campuses and beyond.

00:05:44.000 And that's where I want to start this conversation off.

00:05:48.000 I want to ask Charlie, how much are college campuses to blame for the riots and violence that we're seeing break out today?

00:05:57.000 Yeah, well, first of all, great to be with everybody.

00:05:59.000 Awesome to be back at the Steamboat Institute.

00:06:00.000 And thank you, Kelsey, for the very important introduction.

00:06:03.000 A lot of friends in the audience, both here and upstairs.

00:06:06.000 Tom Cox, Donna, the Dacases, Arlen Whitaker.

00:06:10.000 So hello, they're there.

00:06:11.000 Marco, who's been, boy, Marco was a turning point member back in 2013 before we were a national student movement.

00:06:18.000 So honored to be here.

00:06:18.000 So lots of friends here.

00:06:20.000 Look, one of the things that we kind of convinced ourselves about college campuses like a couple decades ago is we used to say they were liberal, but we never thought for whatever reason, which was kind of foolish, that the leftism would continue to spread throughout our culture.

00:06:36.000 We almost treated it like a nuclear spill, almost, like Chernobyl.

00:06:40.000 Like we can wall it off.

00:06:41.000 It's really bad.

00:06:42.000 You know, we have our kids put on hazmat suits and go to Brown and maybe they'll come back untouched.

00:06:46.000 We hoped.

00:06:47.000 But excuse this analogy, it's actually more like a virus.

00:06:51.000 And what happens on a college campus doesn't stay on a college campus.

00:06:54.000 It infects your entire culture.

00:06:56.000 What happens on a college campus will happen in the halls of Congress, in corporate boardrooms, in the streets of the biggest cities in our country.

00:07:02.000 And what we've done, and it's probably one of the most suicidal things we've done as a civilization and a country, is we've spent hundreds of billions of our own dollars in unrestricted gifts to higher education, which conservative donors, by the way, have written these massive checks to these schools.

00:07:18.000 So we've taught our kids to hate Western civilization and train them to burn down everything that we love.

00:07:23.000 Not to mention, we kept sending these kids to these universities saying, go borrow money you don't have to study things that don't matter to find jobs that don't exist.

00:07:31.000 And then people are wondering, well, where did this entire kind of revolution in our streets come from?

00:07:37.000 It's like, well, just come to a college campus with me.

00:07:40.000 It's only going to get worse.

00:07:41.000 Like, this is just the preview.

00:07:43.000 This is just the precedent for what's to come.

00:07:46.000 This is just the commercial.

00:07:48.000 And so I think we need to look at things a lot more intergenerationally.

00:07:51.000 And we haven't been.

00:07:52.000 In fact, we as conservatives just look at one election cycle to the other, whereas the left 40 years ago, they realized that taking over these core institutions of higher learning, that's exactly how you destroy a fabric of a civilized society.

00:08:07.000 And we're to blame.

00:08:08.000 I mean, the people to blame, quite honestly, are those of us that kept sending our kids to these universities and kept sending hundreds of billions of dollars in big gifts.

00:08:15.000 I'm not against the idea of higher education, by the way.

00:08:18.000 I love the idea of raising up, you know, kids and understanding freedom of speech and dialogue and Western civilization and history.

00:08:25.000 That would be great if that was actually happening on college campuses.

00:08:28.000 It's the opposite.

00:08:29.000 Most young people that I deal with cannot tell you about Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle or Descartes or the great thinkers that built our civilization, but they can tell you about Angela Davis.

00:08:38.000 They can tell you about the most ridiculous Marxist theory that has now really infected the entire Democrat Party and with it, half of the country.

00:08:47.000 And so, look, there's a lot that goes into this, but I think that we, there's actually some really positives that are happening right now with the virus and with higher education.

00:08:56.000 I think that we're finally realizing the scam that higher education is.

00:08:59.000 And I don't use that word lightly.

00:09:00.000 I mean, for you parents out there or grandparents, if you're still paying tuition for your kids to go get a Zoom call and they haven't adjusted your tuition at all, I mean, that's that, there's a reckoning that needs to happen in higher education right now.

00:09:13.000 And this is not insignificant.

00:09:14.000 I mean, one of the major reasons as to why middle class incomes, as far as middle class income to debt ratio has not increased over the last 30 years, is higher education.

00:09:24.000 We have 35-year-olds that are still paying off bad student loan debt where they're like, I didn't really get that many skills when I went to college, but I'm $80,000 in debt and I'm still trying to pay off the principal.

00:09:34.000 So it's even worse than just being infected with bad ideas.

00:09:37.000 You have the erosion of middle income earning capacity because of how expensive higher education has become, where the average student loan borrower owes $32,000 to the federal government, where the majority, 59% of people that go to higher education, only 59% actually graduate.

00:09:56.000 That means 41% of kids that go to college drop out.

00:09:59.000 You would not be able to run anything with a 59% success rate.

00:10:03.000 The St. Louis Federal Reserve, I'm sorry, the New York Federal Reserve came out and they said 44% of recent college graduates, 44% over the last decade are employed in professions that do not require a college degree.

00:10:15.000 44%.

00:10:16.000 That means only 56% that graduate out of the 59% that graduate are actually gainfully employed with something that required the piece of paper that they got.

00:10:25.000 And so at some point, we have to ask ourselves the question, what are we doing here?

00:10:28.000 Like, these are the people that are burning down our country.

00:10:30.000 These are the professors that are infecting your kids with the worst possible ideas imaginable.

00:10:35.000 We're writing them unlimited checks.

00:10:38.000 At some points, we should say, maybe it wouldn't be a bad thing if we had more plumbers, electrician, HVAC people, police officers, entrepreneurs, and people that maybe just didn't go to college.

00:10:46.000 And if you want to be a lawyer or a doctor and engineer, I totally get it.

00:10:49.000 But you understand that's less than 15% of all kids that go to college.

00:10:53.000 Like, the idea we have is that most kids go to college to be specifically prepared for the marketplace, and that's just not the case.

00:10:59.000 50 plus percent of kids that go to college don't even know what their degree is going to be when they come to the university That means they're there almost soul searching and career searching.

00:11:08.000 And I say commonly, if you're going to college to find yourself, you're going to lose yourself.

00:11:12.000 And likely, you're going to find values that create bitterness, arrogance, and resentment for Western society.

00:11:18.000 But I think there's actually some positives here, Kelsey, and I'd love to get into it, which is I actually think people are now realizing the financial insanity of what we've been doing here.

00:11:27.000 When there's been no tuition adjustment at all whatsoever for a WebEx for Harvard or for Yale or Stanford, I think it's long past time that we start asking these very tough questions.

00:11:37.000 Well, on that front, I want to push you a bit because conservatives are often, myself included, we're often very hypocritical in that we are quick to criticize higher education, but we are sending our children there.

00:11:51.000 And it's hard for me not to dream of sending my daughter one day to college because that's sort of the script of American success in this country.

00:12:00.000 But that said, I graduated from Lafayette College, which some of you in Pennsylvania.

00:12:06.000 I no longer contribute.

00:12:07.000 I'm never doing my day job. 0.77

00:12:10.000 I no longer contribute to Lafayette College because I have not been happy with their response just this year alone to the Black Lives Matter movement.

00:12:19.000 I think it's interesting, my father went to Bates and he was donated to Bates College his entire life and recently decided not just to stop donating to Bates, but start donating to Hillsdale College, which he has absolutely no affiliation with at all. 0.55

00:12:36.000 And on that front, what do you think the future of higher education looks like?

00:12:40.000 Is it going to be more divided where you have more schools like Hillsdale pop up and the traditional liberal arts schools like Lafayette College really start to suffer?

00:12:52.000 I think it's going to be a mixture of both.

00:12:53.000 It's hard to say.

00:12:54.000 I mean, if I wasn't doing my day job, if I wasn't doing Turning Point USA and traveling the country and doing two podcasts a day and filling in for radio, the multi-billion dollar opportunity right now is whoever can get this college question right.

00:13:05.000 I mean, the next Elon Musk or Peter Thiel, again, I would do this if I wasn't distracted, but I would know how it would take.

00:13:12.000 It's can you educate someone in 18 months or less for an affordable dollar without the accreditation service and prove that they're actually a better applicant for future jobs?

00:13:20.000 If you can solve that question, parents will send their kids there.

00:13:23.000 Because that's the gap, right?

00:13:24.000 Is that parents say they need to go because they need to get the job.

00:13:27.000 But corporate America is not even happy with what colleges are producing.

00:13:29.000 In fact, most out of Fortune 500 CEOs, 473 out of Fortune 500 say they give an unsatisfactory rating with the type of applicants that they're getting from higher education.

00:13:39.000 So corporate America is not even happy with what the colleges are producing.

00:13:42.000 Parents aren't happy with the price.

00:13:44.000 So the bridge for the entrepreneur is: how can I educate a kid in 18 to 24 months and prove to the marketplace that they're ready to enter, that they actually grow in maturity, they grow in skills, and they actually have some sort of meaning to be able to enter to get a job.

00:14:00.000 That's the opportunity.

00:14:01.000 And that's already being filled by some of these technical schools.

00:14:03.000 But the question is this, which is where Hillsdale is phenomenal, is like, how do we get these kids to actually understand the great ideas that built our civilization?

00:14:10.000 Right.

00:14:11.000 And so some of these colleges are re-embracing the reason as to why donors are defecting them.

00:14:17.000 That's actually going to be a losing model for them.

00:14:19.000 Because most of these donors are conservatives, by the way.

00:14:21.000 Most of the donors to these schools are center-right, reasonable people.

00:14:25.000 It makes sense.

00:14:26.000 They escaped higher education.

00:14:27.000 They decided not to become a professor.

00:14:29.000 They built a big business and then they get called by their alma mater to go write a big check.

00:14:33.000 And a lot of times they do.

00:14:34.000 I think that's changing, though.

00:14:35.000 We have that program at Turning Point USA called Divest You, where we celebrate donors that actually pull their gifts from higher education.

00:14:42.000 We've divested $46 million in just the last month from over 15 universities across the country, and our goal is a billion.

00:14:49.000 And we want to celebrate donors that pull their gifts and say, I'm not going to give money anymore to Rutgers University, where their English department says if you use proper English, that's racist.

00:15:00.000 I kid you not.

00:15:01.000 You can look it up, Rutgers English Department.

00:15:03.000 Or we're not going to give money anymore to universities, you know, like in Texas, for Texas A ⁇ M, for example, where the university professor says that Trump supporters should be, you know, put up and assassinated, or I'm paraphrasing, of course, but I mean, it's just the extremism you see every single day.

00:15:18.000 And this is exactly who's teaching your children.

00:15:21.000 And so, yeah, I think that's the opportunity, right?

00:15:24.000 So for parents that actually want their kids to be enlightened, I also think that we need to think more creatively and less monolithically.

00:15:31.000 Like, who's to say you can't take a gap year and just watch Prager U videos and Hoover Institution YouTube live stream?

00:15:38.000 You're actually going to learn more.

00:15:39.000 Like, I kid you not.

00:15:41.000 I'm autodidactic.

00:15:42.000 I'm self-taught.

00:15:43.000 I didn't go to college.

00:15:44.000 I don't expect everyone to be my path.

00:15:46.000 But if a kid has discipline, if you just watch Victor Davis Hansen's podcast every week and you actually internalize what he's saying, and you just do the Hillsdale Online College for Constitution, which is free, by the way, and you just watch Prager U videos and just kind of listen to Rush Lumba every once in a while, you'll be exponentially more informed than the number one Harvard graduate when it comes to government.

00:16:08.000 I know this because I talk to these people.

00:16:10.000 I've spoken at Brown.

00:16:11.000 I've spoken at Stanford. 1.00

00:16:12.000 These are educated fools. 1.00

00:16:14.000 They are. 1.00

00:16:15.000 They do not know Edmund Burke.

00:16:16.000 They don't know Thomas Paine, but they do know Ida B. Wells and they know Michelle Foucault and they know Karl Marx and they know Jean-Jacques Rousseau.

00:16:24.000 I mean, they know all the awful philosophers.

00:16:26.000 So what I'm taking is somewhat of a provocative position.

00:16:29.000 I totally admit it.

00:16:30.000 But I think it's time that we as conservatives start thinking more creatively.

00:16:34.000 I think we need to think less monolithically.

00:16:36.000 I think we need to start challenging institutions.

00:16:38.000 And isn't that what the last four years of Donald Trump has actually taught us?

00:16:41.000 Is that maybe we need to actually just kind of disconnect ourselves from how we've been thinking about certain things for the last couple of years?

00:16:47.000 And I think higher education is one of them.

00:16:49.000 Because if we stay on this current path as it is, it's not just not sustainable.

00:16:56.000 It's like the civilization might actually break apart.

00:16:59.000 So what's actually happening in our streets, so I could talk about this.

00:17:01.000 I think that we as conservatives talk about the cultural element quite a lot.

00:17:05.000 And I just did, but we don't talk about the material element to this, which is not, we as conservatives kind of shy away from this.

00:17:12.000 Where there's huge debate going on conservatism right now versus like rights-based right-based conservatism and kind of more kind of fair trade, you know, more talking about, I'm failing to describe it correctly, but it's kind of like more populist-centered conservatism.

00:17:27.000 And I fall right in the middle of it.

00:17:29.000 I actually see both of it really equally, and I think it's really interesting, where you kind of see a young person right now that's burning down Portland.

00:17:38.000 And right now we say that's because of higher education.

00:17:41.000 You're right, it is, but it's not the full picture.

00:17:43.000 It's also because they're 32 years old and they own nothing and they're renting and they have a degree from Portland State University that taught them to hate America, but their net worth is negative $60,000.

00:17:58.000 And when all of you guys were 30 years old and you went to college, you could see your life get a little bit better year after year, right?

00:18:04.000 You got a job.

00:18:05.000 You could see your bank account go up, your debt go down, and you actually were invested in the system you were working in.

00:18:11.000 Young people right now, and you can't totally blame them for that.

00:18:15.000 You can definitely blame them for the destruction, but you can't blame them for the analysis.

00:18:18.000 The system right now is not working for a 31-year-old.

00:18:21.000 It's not.

00:18:22.000 And I'm not one to say blow up the entire system at all. 0.97

00:18:26.000 I think that's foolish.

00:18:27.000 But if we just think that, just tell a 31-year-old, yeah, go work harder. 0.91

00:18:31.000 Like that's the solution.

00:18:33.000 They have no skills.

00:18:34.000 You told them to go to college.

00:18:35.000 They're $60,000 into debt and they rent and they don't own anything and they're not getting married.

00:18:40.000 And that's the other thing I want to mention that we as conservatives don't talk about enough.

00:18:44.000 We're on the verge of a population collapse in our country.

00:18:47.000 There's more single 30-year-olds than married 30-year-olds for the first time in the history of our country.

00:18:51.000 We're on pace to have 500,000 less children this year than last year.

00:18:54.000 500,000.

00:18:57.000 I mean, just think about how just like catastrophic that is.

00:19:00.000 So of course they're going to burn down your cities.

00:19:02.000 They don't have children.

00:19:03.000 I mean, when you have a family, you're less likely to do ridiculously crazy things, right?

00:19:08.000 I mean, this is the most ridiculously obvious.

00:19:11.000 This is why in my RNC speech, I mentioned twice, I said, the party that can communicate to young people that we're the party that's going to make it easy to have many children is going to win the youth vote for the next 20 years.

00:19:23.000 I think the RNC did a really good job of that this week, actually.

00:19:26.000 Way better than I would have expected.

00:19:28.000 It's like, no longer are we just like the big business party.

00:19:30.000 We're now actually the family party.

00:19:32.000 That's how we win.

00:19:33.000 Because most 28-year-olds, you know the number two reasons they give for why they don't want to get married or have kids, or at least have kids?

00:19:39.000 It's too expensive.

00:19:41.000 And I don't want to bring kids in this chaotic world.

00:19:43.000 All the time I get this answer.

00:19:45.000 And so here we are talking about like high taxes, low taxes, like that stuff's important.

00:19:49.000 But if you don't actually talk to a 28-year-old, like, no, I'm going to make it really easy for you to have four kids.

00:19:55.000 That's a winning message.

00:19:56.000 And we're actually doing the opposite right now.

00:19:59.000 And if we don't get that answer right, what you're seeing in Portland and Kenosha is literally just a 30-second commercial of what's to come.

00:20:07.000 And no wonder why they want everyone to go do weed right now.

00:20:09.000 Of course they do.

00:20:10.000 They want everyone to stay at home and like have no ambition because they don't own anything.

00:20:14.000 I mean, you have a whole generation that has negative net worth.

00:20:17.000 And so I think if we conservatives can crack that code, and of course we decided to shut down our entire country for six months, who suffered the most? 1.00

00:20:24.000 Young people. 0.97

00:20:25.000 It was young people that had material income gains.

00:20:28.000 It's young people that had the biggest mental health declines.

00:20:30.000 They had no net worth.

00:20:31.000 They had no savings to rely upon.

00:20:33.000 They had no country clubs to retreat to.

00:20:35.000 They had no private jets to travel on.

00:20:37.000 They had no gyms to exercise in.

00:20:38.000 They had no sports to release in.

00:20:40.000 And then we look at this, we say, what kind of country are we leaving?

00:20:43.000 A 30-something.

00:20:44.000 And the honest answer is we've really done an awful job the last nine months with how we shut down our country, the last six months.

00:20:50.000 And so I think that we as conservatives actually have an opportunity here because the left is just selling misery and grievance politics.

00:20:57.000 And I think we can actually have a much better worldview to sell.

00:21:00.000 Well, I can highly endorse having children.

00:21:02.000 Biggest joy of my life.

00:21:05.000 I want to ask, Charlie, on a scale of one to 10, how bad are college campuses right now for free speech?

00:21:14.000 And how much worse could it get, particularly thinking of the Black Lives Matter movement that received millions of dollars in donations this summer, despite not really being a legitimate nonprofit where they transparently tell their donors where their money is going to.

00:21:33.000 And we have now not just student activists, but we have administrations and entire colleges and universities getting behind that.

00:21:40.000 Well, it's worse than that, Kelsey.

00:21:42.000 We have corporate activists.

00:21:44.000 I mean, again, I want you guys to think kind of beyond just the myopic view that some people on, you know, the 30-second television shows will give.

00:21:55.000 What are we supposed to expect when we keep sending these kids to Brown and then they go work at PepsiCo?

00:22:00.000 What you expect, then PepsiCo is going to eventually give a billion dollars to BLM, which is what they did. 0.50

00:22:06.000 It's like, okay, they take over the corporate boardrooms because they were all educated in the very institutions that have these awful ideas, right?

00:22:13.000 So it spreads all throughout your culture.

00:22:16.000 Or BOA does a billion dollars to racial justice, right? 0.55

00:22:19.000 Bank of America, YouTube does $100 million to just black content creators for BLM Incorporated.

00:22:24.000 The entire National Basketball Association, the entire Major League Baseball. 0.82

00:22:28.000 But who's the one that are getting in their ears?

00:22:31.000 Like, who do you think works at the New York Yankees HR department?

00:22:34.000 All the kids that just graduated from Columbia, they're the ones that are friends with these players.

00:22:38.000 I get messages from these NBA players, by the way.

00:22:41.000 These MLB players are like, I don't know what to do.

00:22:43.000 The HR department comes and gives speeches and they're encouraging us.

00:22:46.000 This is the untold story of all this kind of sports stuff that's happening right now.

00:22:50.000 And so it's worse than that.

00:22:51.000 It's that our university system has created activists all up and down the landscape of our country, right?

00:22:57.000 And so how bad is freedom of speech?

00:22:59.000 I mean, it doesn't even exist, right?

00:23:01.000 I mean, I have to, I mean, some public universities, you're able to do it because of the potential legal threat that you can give, right?

00:23:10.000 And God bless President Trump for signing the executive order.

00:23:13.000 We played a role in that, that allowed freedom of speech on college campuses.

00:23:16.000 I like to see that more forcibly enforced by the Department of Education, but that's a different topic for a different time.

00:23:23.000 And the president displayed enormous courage for signing that executive order, which said that any university that does not allow the First Amendment will lose its federal funding, essentially.

00:23:32.000 It took a lot of courage for him to sign that.

00:23:35.000 But if I, so I've spoken at all these schools, I just say all, like every type of school you can imagine, right?

00:23:40.000 I've spoken at Stanford, Brown, Yale, CU Boulder, Colorado State, UT, Austin, Texas State, University of Florida.

00:23:45.000 I've spoken at more campuses than anyone else in the last five years in the conservative movement.

00:23:49.000 I'm not able to go on campus without armed security.

00:23:52.000 That's just, there is a physical threat to anyone that dares to espouse these ideas, right?

00:23:57.000 So that and that alone should just give us pause.

00:23:59.000 It's like, what kind of place is this?

00:24:01.000 Like, this is where we're sending our kids and our money, where I talk about the Constitution of First Principles and, you know, the Christian ethic.

00:24:01.000 Right?

00:24:09.000 And I need enough armed security to go launch a coup in Nicaragua.

00:24:14.000 It's like, I've had helicopters before.

00:24:16.000 Seriously, snipers at the University of Central Florida.

00:24:19.000 That should just take pause.

00:24:20.000 Like, that's not right.

00:24:22.000 Okay.

00:24:23.000 The second thing is this, is that when it comes to freedom of speech, this is the deeper, more philosophical takeaway.

00:24:30.000 If you actually read these people's literature, if you read Michelle Foucault, if you read Jacques Derrida, which are these postmodernist thinkers from the 1960s that have just infected the entire academy, they do believe that dialogue is a problem.

00:24:43.000 So this is not a mistake.

00:24:45.000 This is a strategy.

00:24:46.000 It's a tactic.

00:24:47.000 That freedom of speech for us is a moral fight, right?

00:24:52.000 But we actually don't dive into the utilitarian fight of free speech.

00:24:56.000 That it's actually a good thing to be able to have good ideas win, right?

00:25:00.000 We say it's moral for every idea to be heard because we believe in the dignity of human beings.

00:25:03.000 We believe in a marketplace of ideas.

00:25:05.000 But if you eliminate freedom of speech, then all of a sudden tyranny has to exist after that.

00:25:11.000 It's just actually a really obvious next conclusion, right?

00:25:14.000 So if I'm not allowed to say something, then the person with the bigger stick wins.

00:25:20.000 The person with the gun wins.

00:25:22.000 That person generally has really bad ideas. 0.70

00:25:25.000 And so what we've allowed happen at university campuses is our kids to believe that dialogue, exchanging ideas, is an instrument of white tyranny.

00:25:36.000 Okay?

00:25:37.000 So they think having a conversation means that white people continue to control our country. 0.95

00:25:44.000 This is why BLM Incorporated was so effective because all of your children and your grandchildren through social media have been propagandized to believe that white people are the enemy of our country.

00:25:55.000 What's the inverse of that?

00:25:56.000 BLM, right?

00:25:57.000 They're the solution. 1.00

00:25:58.000 They're the hero to the villainous society that we live in.

00:26:01.000 And I know it might have been really confusing for you to watch.

00:26:03.000 For me, it was like I'm watching the story unfold that I've seen written beforehand.

00:26:08.000 For those of us that understand the left, it made perfect sense.

00:26:11.000 So look, there's some schools that are better than others, but generally they think if, this is what I always say, if they had a button where they could shut us all up and wipe us off the face of the earth, they would push that button.

00:26:22.000 If we had that button for the left, we would not push that button.

00:26:25.000 We just want to talk to them and maybe persuade them.

00:26:28.000 Like they consider us an obstacle.

00:26:29.000 We consider them an opportunity.

00:26:32.000 So the last panel you heard about China's national security law.

00:26:38.000 And interestingly enough, this is impacting Chinese students and Hong Kong students who are studying at college and universities in the U.S.

00:26:47.000 And Harvard and Princeton, for example, are growing very concerned that this law could put those students in danger.

00:26:57.000 And so they are taking steps to protect those students by making certain parts of the class anonymous and so forth.

00:27:06.000 And I saw quite a double standard there, an irony that Harvard and Princeton are willing to go out of their way to protect the free speech and physical safety of Chinese students and Hong Kong students.

00:27:22.000 But yet when it comes to bringing provocative speakers onto college campuses who are conservatives, a lot of times you have to hire your own private security.

00:27:30.000 Oh, that's exactly what we have to do.

00:27:32.000 And so it's a great point.

00:27:33.000 Look, one of the other learning moments for all of us, and I encourage you to go to our website, we're the only organization that has done this, chinaoncampus.com, chinaoncampus.com.

00:27:42.000 Go look at how many of your universities that you might give money to, you send your kids to, that have Confucius Institutes on them, that have, you know what a Confucius Institute is?

00:27:51.000 I don't know if they mentioned it in the previous panel, which was terrific, by the way, which is Chinese Communist Party military-funded institutions on our U.S. campuses.

00:28:00.000 There's over 70 of them.

00:28:01.000 We've successfully helped close 50 of them across the country.

00:28:04.000 There's still 70, 7, 0, ChinaonCampus.com. 0.62

00:28:08.000 Christopher Wray, in his FBI confirmation testimony, said this is the number one domestic threat against our country, the Confucius Institute's on our campuses.

00:28:15.000 They have server rooms.

00:28:16.000 They spy on students.

00:28:18.000 They use information sharing technology.

00:28:20.000 These are just military camps, basically, in our university campuses.

00:28:23.000 Don't take my word for it.

00:28:24.000 Take Christopher Wray's word for it.

00:28:26.000 Federal Bureau of Investigation. 0.50

00:28:28.000 And so what's been amazing to me as a learning experience is how higher education panders to the Islamists, the Chinese Communist Party, and yet they hate conservatives much more than they hate the CCP and they hate the government of Iran.

00:28:45.000 It's actually been incredible. 0.54

00:28:47.000 I mean, a lot of these universities take money straight from Iran, straight from the Brotherhood for Islamic studies immersion institutes.

00:28:55.000 They take money straight from the CCP.

00:28:57.000 But the second that a conservative wants to come talk about the Constitution, which you called me provocative.

00:29:02.000 I mean, I guess I'm provocative.

00:29:03.000 I don't think I am.

00:29:04.000 I mean, I just think I'm honest.

00:29:06.000 Go figure that out.

00:29:07.000 But as soon as I want to come show up, it's absolute bedlam, right?

00:29:13.000 It's riots.

00:29:14.000 It's windows being smashed.

00:29:16.000 It is police officers everywhere.

00:29:18.000 You know, the whole university has to shut down.

00:29:21.000 And so that also should ask our question, like, what kind of kids are we creating for the world?

00:29:25.000 And that we're creating students that actually become less mature after four years when they go to university campuses.

00:29:30.000 And I actually make this argument all the time.

00:29:32.000 And again, I use this as a generalization because there's plenty of good kids that go to university and they survive and they do quite fine.

00:29:38.000 But a high school senior is far more mature than a college senior.

00:29:41.000 Like, it's not even close.

00:29:43.000 Why?

00:29:43.000 Because they have to be around their parents.

00:29:45.000 That's why.

00:29:46.000 They have to be around someone that holds them accountable.

00:29:48.000 In college, it's the exact opposite.

00:29:50.000 They typically gain weight.

00:29:52.000 They indulge in the worst things a human being can indulge in.

00:29:55.000 There's no supervisor.

00:29:56.000 They learn nonsensical ideas.

00:29:58.000 In fact, they're encouraged by their professors to go do that.

00:30:01.000 That you become your own God.

00:30:03.000 Atheism is a very quickly growing religion on college campuses, and it's almost like indulging in this secular hedonistic lifestyle. 0.85

00:30:10.000 And then we wonder why our kids are so miserable.

00:30:12.000 We wonder why the CDC came out and they said one out of four kids contemplated suicide in the last 90 days.

00:30:19.000 One out of four, right?

00:30:21.000 We wonder why antidepressants have multiplied by a multiple of four over the last 90 days for kids under the age of 25.

00:30:28.000 Why marijuana usage has doubled, cocaine usage, alcoholism, all for kids under the age of 30.

00:30:35.000 Well, I think we've covered some of that, but there's a crisis happening with young people in this country.

00:30:41.000 And I hope I'm communicating and conveying it.

00:30:44.000 And again, this is going to transcend political lines.

00:30:48.000 If a young person does not believe they are materially invested in the country they live in, you will experience a French or Russian revolution that will make Portland look like nothing.

00:30:57.000 And it will be kids that call themselves conservatives that will engage in it too.

00:31:01.000 And Tucker Carlson has been on this phenomenally.

00:31:06.000 You have to have young people that believe in the system or else they're going to blow everything up.

00:31:11.000 And I don't support it.

00:31:12.000 I'm just telling you how it is.

00:31:15.000 We're receiving lots of good questions, so keep them coming in on that note.

00:31:19.000 I want to ask one more of my questions before moving on to these.

00:31:22.000 And that is about Turning Point USA.

00:31:26.000 You guys do an excellent job exciting the base and debating on college campuses.

00:31:33.000 And I follow you on Instagram, the meme wars.

00:31:36.000 You guys have that down.

00:31:37.000 What is your strategy for winning over sort of the moderate middle that maybe the memes won't?

00:31:46.000 That's a fair question.

00:31:46.000 By the way, Heritage does great work too, so I'll throw it back at you in the Daily Signal.

00:31:50.000 It's terrific.

00:31:51.000 Look, I have found through what we do and doing two podcasts a day and visiting lots of campuses, it's an interesting strategy because first, our first and foremost objective is to get kids that are center right and conservative to be excited and be proud that they're conservative, to be unafraid to speak out.

00:32:11.000 And that's a really big challenge.

00:32:12.000 And I think we've done a good job of that.

00:32:15.000 I would have had a different answer five years ago.

00:32:18.000 And I believe this more than ever before.

00:32:21.000 I actually think that we win more young people over by not compromising on our views and actually being better at explaining them than going to the mushy middle.

00:32:33.000 And so I'll give you a great example.

00:32:34.000 You know, through our 501c4 organization, Turning Point Action, we run Students for Trump.

00:32:39.000 We have 500 Students for Trump chapters across the country.

00:32:42.000 We hosted the president in June.

00:32:44.000 We had 3,600 students show up in the midst of a pandemic, 107 degrees outside in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:32:50.000 Joe Biden couldn't do that with young people regardless of what was going on.

00:32:55.000 Mitt Romney, at his absolute peak, had 80 Students for Romney chapters, right?

00:33:01.000 And so Romney was always trying to be more moderate, right?

00:33:04.000 We've seen Romney's true colors, right?

00:33:07.000 He hates America so much, he can't even admit that Donald Trump's doing something good.

00:33:12.000 Mitt Romney is the worst of the Republican Party, by the way. 1.00

00:33:14.000 He is an absolute dishonest human being. 0.99

00:33:16.000 I have nothing good to say about that. 1.00

00:33:18.000 Total and complete fraud.

00:33:19.000 He asked for the president's endorsement, begged him for his endorsement for the Senate race, and then votes for his impeachment and calls him the worst things you can call him the day before he gets sworn in the Senate.

00:33:29.000 That is just so unethical.

00:33:30.000 Anyway, so I have to say that.

00:33:33.000 So I know some people are here from Utah.

00:33:36.000 Sorry.

00:33:37.000 So Mitt Romney goes to the middle, and we actually lost young people that way.

00:33:41.000 We actually, I think we win young people, and all people, that is, by saying, here's what we stand for rooted in truth.

00:33:49.000 I'm going to explain it to you.

00:33:50.000 And I'm going to be very convicted and courageous.

00:33:53.000 And I actually think that's a very effective way to go about it.

00:33:56.000 And I think the Trump movement has showed us that.

00:33:58.000 And more young people support Trump than the media would have you believe.

00:34:00.000 A lot of young people hate Trump.

00:34:02.000 Gonna be totally honest about that.

00:34:03.000 That's perfectly clear by what you watch on television.

00:34:07.000 But Trump will do better than he did in 1916.

00:34:09.000 He'll do better than Romney did in 12 and McCain in 08 with younger voters because he's convicted and he stands for something.

00:34:17.000 And he's unapologetic to talk about issues that actually affect people.

00:34:20.000 And so when I talk to people in the middle, I actually, I have a rule not to pander.

00:34:25.000 So like what I say here is exactly what I say on a college campus, which is kind of breaks kind of the conservatism playbook, which is like be something different everywhere you are.

00:34:34.000 That's like the last 20-year playbook, right?

00:34:36.000 Like go to young people and try to, no, I'm actually going to talk about exactly what I say here that I'm going to talk there.

00:34:42.000 And then I actually think we win more people that way because it's actually honest, right?

00:34:46.000 But people in the middle, generally, they want the issues that win young people in the middle are the idea of cancel culture, super pleased that the president mentioned this in his speech last night.

00:34:56.000 And look, the activist media, they're so incredibly dishonest.

00:34:59.000 But what you saw last night, and I was there, it was so gorgeous.

00:35:02.000 The whole evening was gorgeous and beautiful, was a really significant political realignment.

00:35:07.000 And again, the activist media, this is actually an interesting thing to talk about.

00:35:11.000 Like the Democrats are now the party of endless foreign wars.

00:35:15.000 They're now the party of like corporate America and rich people.

00:35:18.000 And like the Republican Party is now the party of working people, the party of ending foreign wars, the party of family creation, and the party of religious expression and free speech.

00:35:27.000 Like, how did that happen?

00:35:28.000 Like eight years ago, you guys believed half of that stuff is Democrats.

00:35:32.000 Like that's really significant, right?

00:35:33.000 Like that's an interesting thing.

00:35:35.000 And that's actually how we're going to win more young people.

00:35:37.000 Young people are tired of these foreign entanglements overseas.

00:35:40.000 President Trump is ending them.

00:35:41.000 Young people love the idea of being able to speak your mind regardless of what it is without fear of retribution.

00:35:47.000 71% of young people are fearful that they will lose their job, get graded differently, and get kicked out of school if they dare say thing, one thing that is contrarian to the political orthodoxy.

00:35:57.000 So now that President Trump is bragging publicly in front of 30 million people last night that he's the ambassador of freedom of speech and ending foreign wars, that'll win more young people than any sort of like Republican outreach strategy will about corporate tax cuts, okay?

00:36:11.000 Because those things actually matter. 0.54

00:36:12.000 It's like, yeah, I'm actually tired of invading these foreign countries while our generation can't even have children. 0.96

00:36:18.000 Like that's probably not a good thing.

00:36:20.000 And then the freedom of speech issue is massive.

00:36:22.000 So look, also a couple things.

00:36:24.000 The life issue is a winning issue for young people.

00:36:26.000 Don't let anyone tell you differently.

00:36:28.000 The pro-life issue, this is the most pro-life generation in American history.

00:36:32.000 I don't know the numbers.

00:36:33.000 You would know them better.

00:36:33.000 You literally do this for a living.

00:36:35.000 But I think it's like 56, 58% of young people in battleground states are very pro-life, like very pro-life.

00:36:40.000 And I was so proud to see the president embrace that.

00:36:43.000 And look, the left, they are selling grievance politics.

00:36:46.000 The one thing that we as conservatives struggle with is a good answer on the environment.

00:36:51.000 It is a very top-tier issue for them.

00:36:52.000 I think there's a lot of misunderstanding under it.

00:36:55.000 I'm generally kind of very dismissive of it just because I think that it's very rooted in alarmism.

00:37:00.000 But I think we need a better answer, to be honest with you.

00:37:03.000 But the top three issues for young people are this.

00:37:05.000 Am I going to be able to live a meaningful life in this country?

00:37:08.000 Number one.

00:37:09.000 Like, that's it.

00:37:10.000 It's jobs, family creation.

00:37:11.000 Number two is the environment or somewhere around it.

00:37:13.000 Number three is freedom of speech and expression of ideas.

00:37:16.000 We're really good on two of those three issues.

00:37:18.000 Well, you just gave me the opportunity to give a plug to the organization my husband works for called ClearPath.

00:37:24.000 And they are a conservative organization that advocates for conservative clean energy policies.

00:37:32.000 And they really are turning around the message, working with a lot of Republican lawmakers on this issue.

00:37:37.000 And I think it's a total farce to assume that conservatives don't care about the environment.

00:37:43.000 You know, the very root of conservatism is to conserve.

00:37:47.000 We just are smart enough to recognize that banning plastic straws isn't going to be the answer on that front.

00:37:54.000 No, and I kid you not, environment is a top three issue for voters under 35.

00:37:58.000 And we are doing awful.

00:37:59.000 And that doesn't mean you have to embrace the Green New Deal, right?

00:38:01.000 But maybe we should brag about Teddy Roosevelt once in a while.

00:38:04.000 Like all these national parks are a thing to a Republican president.

00:38:06.000 Like that would be nice.

00:38:07.000 Instead, it's like, oh, we just want to drill everywhere.

00:38:09.000 Like, I agree.

00:38:11.000 I love oil and gas exploration.

00:38:13.000 I'm a huge fan of pipelining, huge fan of fracking, all those sorts of things.

00:38:17.000 But if we don't get a good answer on the environment, they're going to destroy all those industries.

00:38:21.000 Like that's their playbook.

00:38:22.000 And it's just a top-tier issue for young people.

00:38:25.000 I think we have to get better at answering that.

00:38:27.000 I'm on it.

00:38:29.000 All right.

00:38:30.000 Well, I'm going to some of our questions from audience members.

00:38:32.000 One of them wants to know, are there any Democrats or progressives you respect or find worth dialoguing with?

00:38:39.000 See, like a lot of them don't believe in dialogue.

00:38:42.000 So that's tough, as I just mentioned.

00:38:44.000 But I will say this.

00:38:45.000 I mean, as long as we're being honest and with where the Republicans get things wrong, I could tell you where I think Bernie Sanders, AOC, Elon Omar, and Rashida Talib get something correct that we get wrong.

00:38:57.000 And that's the money in politics issue.

00:39:00.000 I've seen it up close and personal.

00:39:01.000 I think we as Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue.

00:39:04.000 I think how we finance our elections is a problem.

00:39:07.000 It's whatever lobbyist has the closest access to the candidate.

00:39:10.000 It's whoever gives the most contribution gets the legislative earmark.

00:39:14.000 And the fact that AOC does not take money from registered lobbyists is actually worthy of praise.

00:39:21.000 She doesn't.

00:39:22.000 She rejects it.

00:39:23.000 No, only one Republican, Matt Gates, has made that pledge.

00:39:27.000 And so part of it is because they have a better small dollar giving mechanism, just to be honest.

00:39:31.000 Some of our Republicans would do this if they could raise the equivalent money, right?

00:39:36.000 But they are more invested in small dollar donor giving.

00:39:39.000 We have to do a better job of building durable, multi-million member small dollar giving communities so our members can say, I'm not going to take money from lobbyists that represent foreign countries, right?

00:39:51.000 So a lot of our Republicans are taking money from lobbyists that are registered to lobby for literally a foreign country.

00:39:58.000 And so you guys all know how big of an influence lobbyists have in DC.

00:40:03.000 A lot of you have seen it.

00:40:05.000 If we're honest with ourselves, that's one of the reasons why we haven't gotten school choice done.

00:40:10.000 Like we love school choice.

00:40:11.000 We talk about it all the time, right?

00:40:12.000 Well, it's because the teacher unions have an immensely powerful lobby.

00:40:16.000 It's one of the reasons why we haven't been able to get price transparency done or hospital, hospital pricing done.

00:40:21.000 It's because these are the biggest lobbies in D.C.

00:40:24.000 And so I think that is it worth dialoguing with the bitter anti-American Alexandria Casio-Cortez?

00:40:30.000 I mean, if she'll talk to me, I'll talk to anybody.

00:40:32.000 I really believe that.

00:40:33.000 And I'll do, do I think we should publicly finance elections?

00:40:36.000 No, I think that's probably too far.

00:40:37.000 But I think that if you're federally registered as a lobbyist, it should be illegal to give money to a candidate.

00:40:43.000 I mean, that should be one of the most obvious things we should talk about, right?

00:40:47.000 Like if you're registered to lobby for a corporation and then you give money, you're not giving money to that candidate because you're inspired by that candidate, right?

00:40:54.000 Like you guys give money to candidates because you're moved by their worldview and their vision, right?

00:40:59.000 So I think that's something that I think actually could be a big bridge.

00:41:02.000 And then I respect, I actually have lost a lot of respect for Bernie Sanders because of how nice he's been to Joe Biden.

00:41:09.000 I mean, they philosophically don't agree. 0.99

00:41:12.000 He's the worst loser I've ever seen in my life. 0.98

00:41:14.000 I mean, every time Bernie Sanders has a video, it feels like he's being held hostage. 0.99

00:41:18.000 Like he has to give it.

00:41:19.000 Like the lighting is all weird.

00:41:21.000 And he's like, I really love Joe.

00:41:23.000 You don't love Joe Biden.

00:41:24.000 You hate Biden more than you hate Trump.

00:41:27.000 At least Trump is good on trade and good on war and cares about the middle class.

00:41:30.000 Biden doesn't care about any of those things.

00:41:32.000 So look, any leftist that wants to talk to me, I'll have a conversation with.

00:41:37.000 But if I were to say one big takeaway, the money and politics issue, whatever party demonstrates movement on the money and politics issue will win the next generation because most young people, 92% of young people, believe the political system is rotten to the core and does not represent us.

00:41:54.000 That's the number one issue that no one wants to talk about.

00:41:56.000 See, when people talk about like the biggest issues, when you leave off money and politics or government ethics, all these things there.

00:42:02.000 When it's on there, it's almost always the number one issue.

00:42:04.000 It is the issue that affects all the other issues, right?

00:42:07.000 And so I think we got to get on the right side of that.

00:42:09.000 Another audience member wants to know: do you believe there is racism or oppression in the U.S. today?

00:42:16.000 Of course.

00:42:17.000 I mean, of course, there's racists.

00:42:18.000 Of course, there is racism.

00:42:20.000 I mean, it's like saying, do I believe there is sin in the country?

00:42:22.000 I mean, racism is a sin.

00:42:24.000 Of course, I believe that.

00:42:25.000 It's like saying, do I believe there's murder and adultery?

00:42:26.000 Of course I do.

00:42:27.000 Do I believe that we as a nation are a systemically racist country?

00:42:30.000 No, that is one of the greatest lies ever told about the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:42:35.000 In fact, it's the opposite.

00:42:36.000 It's Orwellian.

00:42:38.000 It's not even a lie.

00:42:39.000 It's the opposite of the truth. 0.99

00:42:40.000 We're the least racist, multiracial country ever to exist in the history of the world. 0.99

00:42:44.000 If we were so racist, why is it that 2 million Africans came to our country since 1980 voluntarily?

00:42:50.000 Why is it there's a waiting list in our country of 30 million people from African and Southeast Asian nations to come to America?

00:42:57.000 No, if you actually just take African Americans in our country or blacks in our country, they're the 18th wealthiest country in the world. 0.94

00:43:04.000 If you just take them as a country, just the income and net worth of all the blacks in this country. 0.85

00:43:09.000 And this idea about policing, I mean, you'll hear from Heather McDonald tonight. 1.00

00:43:13.000 She does it much better than I will.

00:43:14.000 But this idea that police are the enemy of blacks, it's not, again, it's not a lie.

00:43:18.000 It's the opposite of the, it's the opposite of the truth.

00:43:21.000 Where it's actually the more police, the more black people are able to live. 0.84

00:43:24.000 It's police that save black lives.

00:43:27.000 And while we're about, we're talking about like policing in America.

00:43:31.000 A police officer is 18 and a half times more likely to be shot by a black person than an unarmed black person is to be shot by a police officer. 0.92

00:43:38.000 Black people comprise 60% of all the police killings in this country. 0.92

00:43:43.000 So if we want to have a conversation about crime, a black person walking on the street of Chicago is exponentially more likely to be shot by another black person than by a police officer. 0.97

00:43:53.000 And this cherry-picking of evidence, like, oh, the Kenosho example, okay, I'm not justifying a police officer shooting someone in the black back seven times, but let's talk about the situation. 0.63

00:44:04.000 His girlfriend called the police on him because there was a restraining order against him.

00:44:09.000 They tried to arrest him with a taser and he resisted arrest because he was so allegedly high on either methamphetamines or cocaine that he didn't even feel the taser, right?

00:44:17.000 So put the taser on him.

00:44:19.000 Didn't even want it.

00:44:20.000 Then he runs to his car to go grab a lethal weapon.

00:44:22.000 Ask any police officer in the country.

00:44:24.000 They're just as worried about knives as they are about guns.

00:44:27.000 In fact, some are more worried about razors and knives than they are about guns. 0.51

00:44:29.000 They slit your throat in an instant. 0.87

00:44:31.000 And so they shot him in the back.

00:44:33.000 Not saying that's the right thing, though there's a trial for that.

00:44:35.000 But this idea that Jacob Blake was just sitting in his car and the police said, that's a black guy I want to kill today, and came up and shot him in the head, and that's the way the media is making it seem, is a sinister and brutal lie.

00:44:47.000 And they're insulting our country and they're dividing us at our core.

00:44:50.000 They're bringing us back to our tribal lines. 0.99

00:44:52.000 This is how you destroy Western society: bring us back by dividing people based on their skin color.

00:44:56.000 It's reprehensible.

00:44:57.000 And I've spoken out against BLM Incorporated as an insurrectionist, terrorist organization, which is what they are.

00:45:03.000 They're Marxist.

00:45:04.000 They want to destroy the family, abolish prisons, abolish the police.

00:45:06.000 And this idea that we're a racist country must be refuted at the very instant it is spoken.

00:45:13.000 It is one of the most important conversations happening in America today.

00:45:16.000 I know it's 4:15 and you all are ready for your break, but I was given permission.

00:45:22.000 I could go for another one.

00:45:23.000 I was given permission to go a couple minutes over.

00:45:26.000 So let me do one more question from here.

00:45:29.000 And then I want to end on one more, circling back to the issue of free speech on college campuses.

00:45:36.000 But let's see.

00:45:38.000 I can combine two into one.

00:45:40.000 Do you think President Trump is on the right track?

00:45:42.000 And Charlie, do you think you'll ever run for office?

00:45:45.000 I get that question a lot.

00:45:46.000 Look, to the second one, I'm 26 years old.

00:45:50.000 I love what I get to do.

00:45:51.000 I do two podcasts a day.

00:45:53.000 I've literally started an organization from nothing and I see it impacting lives.

00:45:56.000 So look, the answer is I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing.

00:45:59.000 So the first thing is this with President Trump.

00:46:03.000 Super, it was a really moving week for me because I was able to open the convention.

00:46:07.000 I was able to be there for when the president closed the convention.

00:46:10.000 And I aptly called him the bodyguard of Western civilization in my remarks.

00:46:14.000 And the media lost it, right?

00:46:15.000 Like they hated it.

00:46:16.000 They thought it was the worst thing.

00:46:17.000 It was perfect.

00:46:18.000 I was like, yes.

00:46:19.000 Well-intended effect.

00:46:21.000 But look, that's what he is, though.

00:46:22.000 And I like the imagery of a bodyguard.

00:46:24.000 You know why?

00:46:25.000 Because when you hire a bodyguard, you really don't care about the tweets he sent out earlier in the afternoon.

00:46:31.000 When you hire a bodyguard, you want him to be able to fight.

00:46:34.000 You want him to be good at it too.

00:46:36.000 And you want him to win.

00:46:38.000 I love that imagery of a bodyguard because it's brutish, but it's also, you know, where his loyalties lie, right?

00:46:44.000 So I just, I thought it was perfect.

00:46:46.000 And that's why I said it.

00:46:47.000 I'll triple down on it.

00:46:50.000 The media is like, how dare you?

00:46:51.000 It's like the worst thing ever.

00:46:52.000 I think they are more worried about the Western civilization than the bodyguard description because they hate the West.

00:46:56.000 But look, the president deserves a lot of credit here because in early July, I wasn't one of these people.

00:47:02.000 People were saying it's inevitable that Biden was going to become president.

00:47:05.000 And the president was down double digits in a lot of these tracking polls in a lot of the key battleground states.

00:47:10.000 And the president then realized he had to win the COVID primary.

00:47:13.000 He had to win the Chinese coronavirus primary.

00:47:15.000 He had to get death and hospitalization rates down.

00:47:19.000 And look at the numbers today.

00:47:20.000 They're a lot better, everybody.

00:47:21.000 They're down 30, 40% in Arizona, Texas, and Florida.

00:47:23.000 It's not where they should be yet, but they're trending in the right direction.

00:47:27.000 Joe Biden made a bad bet.

00:47:29.000 Joe Biden made a bet that this is going to be chaos endlessly, straight to the election.

00:47:35.000 I don't have to leave my basement.

00:47:36.000 We're going to wear masks when we shower, and I'm going to become president, right?

00:47:40.000 It's basically the bet that he made.

00:47:42.000 And now, like, all of a sudden, the virus rates are going down.

00:47:47.000 The riots are now the number one issue in the UK Battleground states, which are my people in the Midwest, right?

00:47:51.000 I grew up in Northern Illinois.

00:47:52.000 I know the people of Kenosha, Wisconsin.

00:47:54.000 I can tell you right now, if the election were held today, Trump wins Wisconsin by 10 points.

00:47:58.000 Okay?

00:47:59.000 And I don't say that lightly.

00:48:00.000 Every person I know in Wisconsin is like, Trump, And now, Trafalgar, which is a center-right polling firm, but they got the presidential race perfectly in 2016.

00:48:11.000 Has Trump up one in Michigan?

00:48:14.000 Has Trump tied in Pennsylvania?

00:48:15.000 Has Trump tied in Minnesota?

00:48:17.000 And has Trump tied in Florida?

00:48:19.000 This race that seemed inevitably deficient for Trump is all of a sudden the trends are all in his favor.

00:48:25.000 And now the number one, two, and three issue in America, maybe the virus, but it's riots, it's safety, and who are we as a country?

00:48:32.000 For a party that I criticize quite a lot, the Republican Party, they blew me away this week.

00:48:39.000 The convention, they did an unbelievable job and they deserve credit for that.

00:48:44.000 Tony Segay, my friends that produced that convention, I mean, I was getting emotional watching.

00:48:48.000 It was a celebration of our country, anticipate a huge polling boost.

00:48:51.000 The issue is going to be this for the Trump campaign.

00:48:54.000 Can they play with a lead?

00:48:55.000 I'm telling you right now, there will be polls in the next week and a half that show Trump in certain polls.

00:48:59.000 I actually think they're better playing from behind players.

00:49:02.000 If they can figure out how to play with a lead, he's going to get four more years.

00:49:06.000 All right.

00:49:07.000 Well, ending this fabulous discussion, I want to circle back to the issue of free speech and honestly protecting peace on college campuses.

00:49:16.000 And this conference is filled with parents, grandparents, and also students who are in the thick of it as we speak.

00:49:25.000 What is your practical advice for those who can't wait 10 years for these transformations that we hope for and need to be a part of for higher education?

00:49:36.000 What is your practical advice for them now?

00:49:39.000 First, I just want to say thank you again for having me and Jennifer.

00:49:41.000 You're amazing.

00:49:42.000 And thank you to the Aikens for having me.

00:49:44.000 Deeply appreciate it.

00:49:47.000 Look, practical advice is this.

00:49:48.000 Stop giving money to your alma mater unless you went to Hillsdale, please.

00:49:51.000 Seriously, cut them off.

00:49:53.000 It's that simple.

00:49:54.000 And especially if your alma mater has multi-billion dollar endowments.

00:49:58.000 I mean, just look at the fruit that they're producing.

00:50:02.000 Look at the people in New York City, two of them, two lawyers.

00:50:05.000 One that went to Princeton.

00:50:07.000 I think I see a Princeton shirt there.

00:50:08.000 I could be mistaken.

00:50:10.000 I always have to single out the Princeton individual.

00:50:12.000 One that went to Fordham, I totally get him.

00:50:14.000 One that went to Princeton, one that went to Fordham.

00:50:17.000 And they threw Molotov cocktails at police officers.

00:50:20.000 And you have to ask yourself, what class in the Woodrow Wilson School of Government, like, it put them on their path for that?

00:50:27.000 I mean, one that went to Ford, one that went to Princeton.

00:50:29.000 And so please stop giving money to your alma mater, please.

00:50:32.000 And then the other thing is this.

00:50:34.000 Here's one challenge for you, for young people, right?

00:50:37.000 Start from the default position that your 17-year-old doesn't have to go to college and then have them make the argument that they do.

00:50:45.000 If that's not the way that you're viewing college, you're viewing it wrong.

00:50:48.000 If it is, they have to go and I'm going to have to prove that not to go.

00:50:51.000 I believe that's an incorrect analysis.

00:50:53.000 I'm not saying they shouldn't go.

00:50:54.000 Just make the argument up to it.

00:50:56.000 Say, okay, borrowing $80,000, traveling to another state for four years, that's worth it for me.

00:51:03.000 Go through that argument.

00:51:04.000 No different than buying a home or buying a car would be.

00:51:07.000 Start from the default position that I'm not going because you don't have to go.

00:51:12.000 You don't.

00:51:13.000 And that's the other thing is please be more accepting to anyone in your system where it's not, hey, where are you going to college?

00:51:21.000 Why are you going to college?

00:51:22.000 And demand better answers.

00:51:24.000 I implore you.

00:51:25.000 And be okay with kids that take gap years, that become entrepreneurs.

00:51:29.000 I guarantee you this.

00:51:32.000 If a kid took the, if a student took the equivalent of going to Princeton for four years, which is about $240,000, if you count room and board and travel, and invested in moderate stocks for four years and just watched PragerU and the Hoover Institution, who's going to be better after four years?

00:51:51.000 Think about that.

00:51:52.000 That $240,000 thanks to Trump would be probably $320,000, $330,000, beautifully matured.

00:51:59.000 He would love Western civilization and he probably would have a little bit more motivation.

00:52:04.000 That's a thought exercise for you, isn't it?

00:52:06.000 Go start a business.

00:52:07.000 Go do anything.

00:52:08.000 If you just put the money in a money market account, it'd still be there and you'd have no debt.

00:52:12.000 You wouldn't have to repay anything. 0.89

00:52:14.000 What we are doing is so financially foolish for the next generation and culturally troublesome. 0.99

00:52:20.000 I encourage you to think more creatively and less monolithically. 0.99

00:52:23.000 And the final thing is this, if I could say one more thing.

00:52:25.000 For young people that have young children, just take the education of your young children so seriously.

00:52:32.000 I'm talking about five, six, seven, and eight-year-olds.

00:52:34.000 How do you do that?

00:52:35.000 Get them excited about the founders of our country.

00:52:38.000 Get them defensive of Theodore Roosevelt, of Thomas Jefferson, of George Washington.

00:52:44.000 Make them think of those people as heroes because one day they're going to have to defend them.

00:52:50.000 And if they're not ready to do that, they will be susceptible to the left.

00:52:55.000 And if you have the financial means to do so, homeschool your kids.

00:52:58.000 Please.

00:52:59.000 Do not trust your kids to the state or to private schools that are very infected.

00:53:03.000 If you think that homeschooling is too difficult, you might be right.

00:53:06.000 It is hard.

00:53:07.000 But Hillsdale, other schools have great resources to do that.

00:53:10.000 I think we have to double the homeschooling population in the next five years, double it.

00:53:13.000 And for you out there that are looking for a calling, maybe there's a homeschooling parent that could use your 40 years of wisdom, and maybe you could stop by their house every day at 8 a.m. to go homeschool five families.

00:53:24.000 I think we as conservatives need to create better networks of homeschooling communities.

00:53:28.000 We have some of the most accomplished business minds here at this institute.

00:53:31.000 What if all of you guys chipped into a homeschool co-op just this next year?

00:53:35.000 Because that's happening all across the country.

00:53:37.000 So those are some actionable items.

00:53:38.000 And the final thing is this.

00:53:40.000 Please treat this election as the most important election since 1860, because it is.

00:53:44.000 If they win, they're coming after all of us.

00:53:47.000 They will punish us.

00:53:48.000 They will penalize us.

00:53:49.000 They will imprison us.

00:53:50.000 And they will destroy this country.

00:53:52.000 I am not overexaggerating.

00:53:53.000 I know who we're dealing with here.

00:53:54.000 So take this election very seriously.

00:53:56.000 And God bless you guys.

00:53:57.000 Thank you.

00:54:01.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:54:03.000 Please listen to our sister episode where I take your questions.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - September 01, 2020

America's Youngest Generation + Family Formation, Big Tech, and the Higher Ed Scam

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