The Charlie Kirk Show - America’s True Divide

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00:00:10.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, we dive deep into the true divide in America. 0.81

00:00:14.000 The true divide isn't white versus black.

00:00:16.000 It isn't man versus woman. 0.61

00:00:18.000 It's not Republican versus Democrat.

00:00:20.000 It's a different type of divide.

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00:01:28.000 Are we divided?

00:01:30.000 Feels like it.

00:01:32.000 But how?

00:01:33.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:01:35.000 Here we go.

00:01:36.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:01:38.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:01:40.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:01:43.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:01:47.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:48.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:49.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:57.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:02:06.000 That's why we are here.

00:02:09.000 I want to start by talking about Victor Davis Hansen.

00:02:15.000 Victor Davis Hansen has brought more wisdom to the American conversation on politics than any other person I can point to in the last couple of years.

00:02:26.000 You see, Victor Davis Hansen is formerly, he still is a classicist, so he focuses a lot on the classic Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, the Greek and Roman classics.

00:02:39.000 He was a lecturer at Fresno State University and just started to get into the political space recently.

00:02:44.000 He's also a military historian, and he has been able to pinpoint exactly what's happening in our country better than people that are political experts for the last 30 years.

00:02:57.000 He understood Trump as soon as he ran for office.

00:02:59.000 He understands what he represents.

00:03:01.000 He understands the need for his presidency.

00:03:03.000 In fact, he wrote the book, The Case for Trump.

00:03:06.000 And many of you have probably seen Victor Davis Hansen on Fox News recently.

00:03:10.000 So I was driving yesterday evening listening to Tucker Carlson's terrific show.

00:03:17.000 And I heard Victor Davis Hansen go through chapter and verse, a better analysis in one of the most incredible cable news segments I have heard in recent memory.

00:03:30.000 And it's a very long segment, so we've broken it apart, but we're going to go piece by piece.

00:03:36.000 Because what Victor Davis Hansen was able to do to describe the landscape of our country was able to make a series of points that show that the real divide in our country is not based on race.

00:03:51.000 That is what the left wants.

00:03:53.000 The left wants a race war. 0.92

00:03:54.000 Instead, it's based on class.

00:03:57.000 And this idea of a class struggle is nothing new.

00:04:00.000 Karl Marx and Engels talked about this in Das Kapital and the Communist Manifesto.

00:04:06.000 Karl Marx was not the original communist, by the way.

00:04:08.000 Communists predated Marx.

00:04:10.000 Marx was about the seventh or eighth choice for him to write the manifesto.

00:04:15.000 He was hired by communists in Europe to do it.

00:04:18.000 And Marx was largely sponsored by Engels.

00:04:23.000 Engels was one of, he would be almost a modern day equivalent of the Silicon Valley masters that we see, the techno-tyrants that live in Silicon Valley.

00:04:33.000 And so Engels and Marx together wrote Das Kapital, this idea of a class struggle, the bourgeoisie versus the proletariat, actually kind of fell flat on its face when Marx was alive.

00:04:44.000 He was never taken seriously.

00:04:48.000 And so then eventually Vladimir Lenin takes up these horrendous ideas, but Marx wasn't totally wrong about everything.

00:04:54.000 Marx was completely correct about how you're always going to have some class friction and some class tension.

00:05:02.000 Now, those of us that believe in markets and those of us that believe in individual initiative and entrepreneurship, a lot of that class tension, a lot of that class struggle just naturally erodes.

00:05:15.000 A lot of the kind of rich people versus poor people, there is some of that, but eventually a middle class gets created.

00:05:20.000 As Aristotle would call it, the golden mean.

00:05:24.000 Eventually people that are somewhere in the middle that earn $80,000 a year, they're able to take their family on a vacation or two.

00:05:30.000 They take a couple weekends off.

00:05:31.000 They go to football games and they're bought into the system.

00:05:36.000 However, Victor Davis Hanson stated clearly that this election is based on class, not on race.

00:05:42.000 He brought to light the criticism of something that I thought was so incredibly new and interesting and deep.

00:05:50.000 Let's play tape.

00:05:52.000 I think he's got to emphasize that this election's on class.

00:05:56.000 It's not on race.

00:05:57.000 There's 100 million people, muscular people, are out there every day taking a risk that they're going to be infected while they serve you at a store or they bring your DoorDash food to your curbside or they bring your oven when it blows up from Home Depot or they're trucking all night or they're producing food or they're farming.

00:06:16.000 And yes, they don't always have the correct mask and maybe they don't social distance, but they're keeping the country going for whom?

00:06:23.000 The Zoom and the Skype class that are in their basements telemarketing or teleworketing or whatever they do and making a lot of money and then hectoring everybody that they're politically incorrect or they're racist or their mask is an inch too small or they were one foot closer.

00:06:38.000 And Trump's got to say, you know, I'm one with these people. 0.91

00:06:41.000 I want to frack because that frees us from these Middle East quagmires and it gives your kids good wages and doesn't send your kid to Afghanistan or Iraq. 0.98

00:06:50.000 What VDH pinpointed right there is that the true divide is based on class.

00:06:56.000 Now, we as conservatives don't like talking this way.

00:06:58.000 I get it.

00:06:59.000 We don't like compartmentalizing people based on income level or based on wealth.

00:07:04.000 It's very dangerous.

00:07:06.000 But what Victor Davis Hansen mentions is so unique than any other person in the pundit class.

00:07:16.000 If you're listening to this right now and you've had the opportunity to stay at home and telemarket or telework, as he says, you're part of the Skype and Zoom class.

00:07:27.000 Have you ordered something on DoorDash or Postmates lately?

00:07:31.000 There's a whole class of people that have to wear that mask for nine hours a day. 0.78

00:07:38.000 They have to work their tail off to make sure that the Zoom and Skype class can continue to have things delivered to their home.

00:07:46.000 Those people, as Victor Davis Hansen describes them, are the muscular class.

00:07:53.000 And what you have is basically the Zoom and Skype class that live in a virtual world versus the physical world.

00:07:59.000 People that are working with their hands, they're making sure the supply chains are never uninterrupted.

00:08:04.000 They're making sure that the Amazon products are still delivered.

00:08:07.000 They're making sure that the food is still being replaced in grocery stores.

00:08:11.000 They're the ones that are at the checkout clerks, and they're actually the ones that are the most exposed to the virus.

00:08:17.000 They're the ones that actually are the most exposed to being infected.

00:08:21.000 But who is it that is making the decisions?

00:08:25.000 Is it the grocery store clerk?

00:08:27.000 Is it the box fulfillment individual at Amazon?

00:08:31.000 Is it the person working at Home Depot?

00:08:34.000 Is it the Uber driver that's driving seven hours a day with a mask on, just trying to make sure that he or she can make ends meet?

00:08:41.000 No.

00:08:41.000 The people making the decisions are the people that can roll out of bed five minutes before their Zoom call starts, never having to put on a mask, and all of a sudden they're able to earn the same sort of income level they were six months ago.

00:08:54.000 Now, that's not the case for every person, but it is for millions of people, and especially the upper-income people in this country.

00:09:01.000 And so while they're prognosticating, while they're virtue signaling, talking about how great of people they are, because they keep six feet a distance, well, yeah, you're able to stay in your home all day and you get all of the products delivered to you that you want.

00:09:14.000 You get all of the food delivered to you that you need by the muscular class.

00:09:20.000 And they're the ones that put the BLM signs out on their lawn.

00:09:24.000 They're the ones that are complaining that the person in the park who's 95 feet away from them isn't wearing a mask, isn't socially distanced.

00:09:35.000 Well, maybe that person was part of the muscular class.

00:09:39.000 Maybe that guy just got done with two weeks of trucking to make sure that you could get your delivery products and he just wanted to see his kid for 10 minutes play in a park without a mask on.

00:09:47.000 Maybe that's the case.

00:09:49.000 And what you see here, and there's a political truth here, is for the first time in the modern economy, you now have an entire class of people that are able to physically disconnect themselves from the costs, the vulnerabilities, and the potential issues that arise with having to produce.

00:10:16.000 It's never happened before.

00:10:17.000 It's obviously made possible thanks to the internet, faster, fiber optic speed.

00:10:22.000 But now the people making the choices can literally disconnect themselves from the sweat, from the toil, the exposure, and the difficulty of actually having to produce.

00:10:34.000 And so we believe in markets.

00:10:37.000 And that's exactly why the class struggle is starting, because we've stopped having markets.

00:10:44.000 As soon as you shut down the country, the markets disappear.

00:10:49.000 All of a sudden, you're going to have disruptions that none of us like.

00:10:53.000 When you have a government edict that is the most powerful totalitarian edict in my lifetime of telling people they can't leave the home, don't act as if you can map out every single decision that comes after that.

00:11:08.000 Victor Davis Hansen continued on the Tucker Carlson show by making a point that I think we need to lean into more.

00:11:18.000 Victor Davis Hansen argued that as we have this divide of the muscular class versus the Zoom and Skype class, that the muscular class is actually the ones that are exposing themselves to the virus.

00:11:30.000 Which of the two presidential candidates is more like the Zoom and Skype class and who is more like the muscular class?

00:11:37.000 Well, Joe Biden is, of course, more like the Zoom and Skype class.

00:11:42.000 Risk averse at any cost.

00:11:44.000 I won't do rallies.

00:11:45.000 I won't do events.

00:11:46.000 And I will stay in my basement.

00:11:48.000 We should ask ourselves the question: what heroic accomplishment or breakthrough comes in life without risk?

00:11:56.000 Are you able to achieve greatness without exposing yourself to a downside?

00:12:02.000 Play cut two.

00:12:04.000 You can say, I'm one with you, and I did.

00:12:06.000 I don't have any apologies for getting sick.

00:12:08.000 That's what the president's supposed to do.

00:12:09.000 You're supposed to take risks, meet foreign leaders, bring individuals into the White House, crisscross the country.

00:12:15.000 Yeah, even have a rally.

00:12:16.000 I'm not, and you know what?

00:12:18.000 When I get sick, I'm going to take risks by taking experimental drugs if I have to to get back on the job.

00:12:23.000 I am not going to stay in my basement and quarantine myself and isolate myself and pass judgments on others that you're not willing to take the same risk. 0.99

00:12:33.000 Meet foreign leaders.

00:12:34.000 Israel and the United Arab Emirates a couple weeks ago came to the White House to sign a historic peace deal.

00:12:40.000 Where do they say this virus originated from?

00:12:42.000 From filling a Supreme Court seat.

00:12:44.000 You see, Victor Davis Hansen, the reason why he has such clarity on these topics is he's a war historian.

00:12:50.000 He's not a political commentator.

00:12:52.000 He's not a creature of political science.

00:12:54.000 Instead, his entire life has been becoming the subject matter expert in Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, the Greco-Roman Wars, the birth of Athenian democracy, and then World War I, World War II.

00:13:11.000 He is probably the premier historian on World War II.

00:13:16.000 So when you study that form of literature and understand the type of people it takes to achieve phenomenal things, Victor Davis Hansen starts to build out archetypes of those types of people that actually get that stuff done.

00:13:32.000 And what Victor is saying here is that, of course, Donald Trump exposed himself to the virus.

00:13:40.000 How are you supposed to govern a country in crisis without playing into the risk a little bit yourself?

00:13:46.000 The same could be said for Winston Churchill walking the streets of London after bombing raids.

00:13:51.000 The same could be said for five-star general Dwight D. Eisenhower exposing himself to military threats throughout World War II.

00:14:03.000 Victor Davis Hansen talked very quickly there, meeting foreign leaders, taking experimental drugs.

00:14:08.000 If you're listening to this and you're part of the muscular class, you're the ones that are loading boxes and you have to wear that N95 mask all day long and breathe on yourself, almost risk hyperventilation.

00:14:21.000 If you're a flight attendant and you have to wear that mask all day long, and yet the person that is telling you that what you are doing wrong is the person that gets to stay at their 8,000-foot home in Evingston, Illinois, or Highland Park, Texas, or Palm Beach, Florida, or Beverly Hills, California.

00:14:45.000 They're the ones that tell you what to do because it makes them feel good.

00:14:52.000 And what's really being created here is a political opportunity where President Trump is now able to say, for the 100 million people out there that are working with your hands to make the luxurious lifestyle possible for the virtual class, I'm with you.

00:15:11.000 And it is completely consistent.

00:15:14.000 In fact, it's harmonic with why Donald Trump ran in the first place.

00:15:22.000 What's now been more clear than ever after seven months of these shutdowns, of these government edicts, the wealthy are wealthier than they ever have been in our country's history.

00:15:33.000 This is something that Marx predicted, that when crisis hits, those with capital will get more and those with less will be crushed.

00:15:44.000 We call this the Matthew principle, actually.

00:15:46.000 It's a biblical principle, and it's a harsh teaching.

00:15:51.000 If you've ordered something recently delivered to your home, there are probably at least 10 human beings behind that.

00:15:59.000 There's people listening to this and watching this all across the country in different socioeconomic walks of life.

00:16:08.000 And interestingly, the edicts to keep our country shut down and lock down, the measures to keep our country in a perpetual state of fear are almost all being advanced by people that have the luxury, the capital, and the capacity and the ability to live a virtual life.

00:16:26.000 The 100 million people in the muscular class in our country that drive trucks and lift boxes and frack and work with their hands, they are the ones that have an ever-diminishing voice in our country.

00:16:39.000 Business insider, how billionaires got $637 billion richer during the coronavirus pandemic.

00:16:49.000 When people are calling to lock down our country again, there might be a reason.

00:16:55.000 It's because the wealthy, the elites, the ruling class, they actually have materially improved their life more so than any other period of time we have seen in recent memory.

00:17:07.000 We've mentioned the biblical principle that reinforces this.

00:17:11.000 It's called the Matthew principle. 0.90

00:17:14.000 And the verse in particular talks about how those that have a little will lose everything.

00:17:22.000 It's Matthew 25, 29, for to everyone who has will more be given, and he will have abundance, but from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away.

00:17:34.000 It's a vicious teaching when you think about it.

00:17:37.000 And it actually applies to economics as well.

00:17:39.000 And this is one of the main complaints of the Marxists.

00:17:43.000 And Karl Marx's policy prescriptions are horrendous, evil, and immoral.

00:17:48.000 But some of the observations he made on the landscape, hard to disagree with some of them.

00:17:54.000 And when you have a virtual class that hides in their 9,000 square foot mansion in Winter Park, Florida, or in Greenwich, Connecticut, or in the Hamptons, and they're the ones that are the loudest and the most invested, eventually the workers of the country are going to look for a voice.

00:18:21.000 And so as the workers of the country look for a voice, the question is, what voice are they going to choose?

00:18:32.000 Senator Kamala Harris probably received sequences of polling the night before the debate or the night, the morning of the debate, that reflected that the working class in this country has a great deal of anxiety of the current state of the economy.

00:18:53.000 The American way of life, where you work hard, you believe in the system, your kids get a better life than you.

00:18:59.000 You don't have to worry about criminals or thugs coming down the street to burn your house down or burn your church down.

00:19:05.000 A lot of that is being put in jeopardy.

00:19:09.000 Senator Harris leaned in on this.

00:19:12.000 It was one of the most effective lines for her of the entire debate.

00:19:17.000 I'm going to deconstruct it and tell you exactly why what she said is so remarkably inauthentic and transparently fickle and fragile.

00:19:30.000 What she said is important for everyone to hear.

00:19:34.000 Play tape.

00:19:35.000 We're looking at frontline workers who have been treated like sacrificial workers.

00:19:41.000 We are looking at over 30 million people who in the last several months had to file for unemployment.

00:19:50.000 Do you hear that?

00:19:51.000 Sacrificial workers, frontline workers.

00:19:54.000 She's not just talking about medical workers, by the way. 0.99

00:19:56.000 She's trying to do an overture to people that work with their hands. 1.00

00:20:01.000 This is something that the corporate class in our country do not understand.

00:20:06.000 And they're going to be in for a very rude awakening.

00:20:09.000 There are three political philosophies right now in our country.

00:20:14.000 Three.

00:20:16.000 Number one, you have Bolshevik Bernie Sanders, complete and total government takeover.

00:20:23.000 Believe it or not, most of those complete and total government control ideas are not exactly represented by Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

00:20:34.000 They have agreement probably on opening the borders, destroying energy, taking weapons away.

00:20:41.000 But economically, Bernie Sanders and Kamala Harris disagree on quite a lot.

00:20:46.000 That's one school of thinking.

00:20:49.000 The second school of thinking is what President Donald Trump represents.

00:20:54.000 Recognizing the needs, wants, and the anxieties of the muscular class versus the Zoom and Skype class, and saying, I want fracking because it delivers meaningful work.

00:21:06.000 I want entrepreneurs because that's a bedrock of a society.

00:21:09.000 I want you to stay invested in this beautiful country that we live in.

00:21:14.000 This is in a lot of different ways.

00:21:15.000 I would brand it as patriotic free enterprise, unafraid to challenge the dogma of the corporate class, having the courage to criticize some of these transnational corporations.

00:21:31.000 President Donald Trump articulates that viewpoint very well.

00:21:35.000 And the more he leans into it, the more he'll benefit politically.

00:21:39.000 And the third category is the corporate class.

00:21:44.000 And that's who Joe Biden actually represents.

00:21:47.000 When Joe Biden says, yeah, I'll shut down the country again, who does that benefit?

00:21:51.000 Benefits Jeff Bezos.

00:21:53.000 It benefits Google.

00:21:56.000 It only makes us fall quicker into a virtual, non-physical, non-tangible, and quite honestly, unrealistic world.

00:22:07.000 Silicon Valley is one of the primary pushers for a Joe Biden presidency.

00:22:15.000 We know this to be true.

00:22:16.000 We know this through campaign donations.

00:22:17.000 We know this through social media manipulation.

00:22:20.000 We know this through a variety of different ways.

00:22:23.000 So Senator Harris is actually trying to make an overture to the workers of the country.

00:22:28.000 And no, I'm not going to go as far as say, workers of the world unite.

00:22:31.000 That is definitely a Democrat, socialist, Marxist phrase.

00:22:35.000 But what I will say is that if you're working with your hands and you feel as if you're losing faith in the system, President Donald Trump is your only political choice.

00:22:49.000 And here's the issue that almost everyone misses.

00:22:52.000 Tucker Carlson does not miss this.

00:22:56.000 If the box fulfillers at Amazon and the Chipotle order fulfillers and the Uber drivers and the Postmate delivery people and the overnight truckers and the grocery store clerks, if this continues as is and the billionaire class adds another trillion dollars to net worth and we get some form of inflation and you have an entire group of people that are $60,000 in debt and they don't have a mortgage and they have no equity,

00:23:25.000 eventually that 100 million people, the muscular class, they are going to say, forget it.

00:23:31.000 I don't care if I was a Republican.

00:23:32.000 I don't care if I was a Democrat.

00:23:35.000 I want a voice back in my government and my country.

00:23:38.000 And this is where Victor Davis Hansen, looking at this from a non-political perspective, the reason why he's so prescient, the reason why he has such wisdom is because he's been studying history his entire life.

00:23:49.000 And it's almost as if we just parachuted VDH into our period of time and we said, tell us what's going on.

00:23:57.000 And he said, I'm happy to.

00:23:59.000 And he articulates what is the greatest danger and fear ahead of us, those of us that believe in a market system and private property. 0.53

00:24:07.000 It is the greatest disruption that we have seen since the Industrial Revolution from the agrarian-based society to the Industrial Revolution, when Teddy Roosevelt had to manage the transition of tens of millions of people from the farms to the factories.

00:24:22.000 And mismanaging that transition for Russia meant that Vladimir Lenin picked up Marx's ideas and said, this will give me power, promised things he'd never be able to deliver, took absolute power.

00:24:36.000 One of the things that we get wrong as conservatives is we are convinced that Marxist revolutions are always purely ideological.

00:24:46.000 This is nonsense.

00:24:47.000 It's horsepucky.

00:24:48.000 It's revisionist corporate history.

00:24:52.000 Most Marxist revolutions, whether it be the revolution in Rhodesia to Zimbabwe with Mugabe, in Southeast Asia, in Vietnam, Laos or Cambodia, in Korea, China with Mao Setong, Eastern Europe, Vladimir Lenin, Cuba, Venezuela, or a pseudo-Marxist revolution in Argentina. 0.59

00:25:13.000 Every single one of them is because the middle class of that country stopped believing in the system. 0.66

00:25:18.000 That's why.

00:25:20.000 It wasn't because they were indoctrinated for 18 years beforehand.

00:25:23.000 Some of them were, and that helped a little bit.

00:25:25.000 But a country can go from a country that respects private property rights and has commerce to not if the middle class of your country or the muscular class of your country loses faith in the system.

00:25:40.000 And if the muscular class in this country are going to continue to be bossed around by the BLM Incorporated sign-waving Sierra Club donating Beverly Hills, Highland Park, Palm Beach, Greenwich, Connecticut, Hampton class, because they're able to sit behind a screen all day long and see their stock portfolio increase and their wealth managers able to find specific derivative opportunities.

00:26:08.000 So all of a sudden they've increased their net worth by 22% and they complain because their kale vegan salad and their celery juice is six minutes late and the Uber driver that delivered to it is all sweaty and not wearing their mask properly, you got a problem in your country.

00:26:27.000 And President Donald Trump incredibly is actually positioned to transition us from the farms to the factories, from the physical to the virtual, without a Marxist revolution happening in our country.

00:26:39.000 And if President Trump leans in on this and says, I'm actually one of you, I've walked job sites my whole life.

00:26:45.000 I believe that risk is a necessary form of living a fulfilled life.

00:26:49.000 I'd rather be brave and be wise than be safe all the time.

00:26:53.000 That's not to say you should sacrifice safety, but if you only cared about safety, you would check yourself into Rikers.

00:27:01.000 You'd go to Alcatraz Island if you only cared about safety.

00:27:05.000 Three meals a day in a prison cell, no capacity to hurt yourself, totally safe, no freedom, no liberty, no joy, no happiness, no capacity to create.

00:27:15.000 President Donald Trump leaning in on how Joe Biden is the autocrat and the techno-tyrant of the virtual class, the Zoom class, the Skype class, the why is my celery juice six minutes late class.

00:27:30.000 He can actually communicate to the economic anxiety that is happening in our country.

00:27:38.000 Senator Harris made a small overture to it.

00:27:42.000 And here's the choice that is ahead of a lot of these politicians up and down the ballot.

00:27:49.000 It's: do working people matter?

00:27:52.000 And we, as conservatives, get this wrong so often.

00:27:54.000 We only talk to workers on social issues, and we should.

00:27:58.000 Family creation, pro-life, church, firearms, free expression.

00:28:02.000 But wouldn't it be nice if we leaned into why Donald Trump was actually successful in the first place?

00:28:09.000 Which is that the middle class of this country is losing faith in the ruling class of this country.

00:28:17.000 That's why President Trump won in 2016.

00:28:20.000 It's because he was a throbbing middle finger to the Zoom and Skype class, to the virtual class.

00:28:27.000 Because he was willing to throw over the tables of the people that are unwilling to take the risk, but they're more than willing to tell you what they're doing, what you're doing wrong with your life.

00:28:36.000 I want to go to cut five here, where Victor Davis Hansen explains how the elite leftists have made a deal with a radical socialist, which means they won't answer any questions at all whatsoever.

00:28:49.000 Play tape.

00:28:49.000 Well, it was pretty clear what their strategy is, and you hit on a lot of the points: is that they're going to talk about race and they're going to talk about Trump as a mass killer.

00:28:58.000 And that means they're not going to answer any questions about fracking a new Green Deal or packing the court or who they would appoint because they are elite leftists who have made a bargain with desperate hardcore socialists.

00:29:14.000 And one of the ways that elite leftists seek to atone the fact that they've gotten wealthier and the fact that they have materially gotten better the last couple months is through the issue of race.

00:29:26.000 It's the issue of either white guilt or some sort of racial guilt that they've been told.

00:29:32.000 And so instead of talking about how the lockdowns were the greatest domestic intrusion of the American economy in the history of our country, which it was, it was the greatest government interference into commerce, into choice, into liberty.

00:29:49.000 They want to distract away from how the lockdowns are widely unpopular and talk about almost distraction issues, such as the color of your skin.

00:30:01.000 And they absolutely are elite leftists.

00:30:03.000 I want to go to cut four here.

00:30:05.000 They model themselves after Barack Hussein Obama, cut four.

00:30:10.000 And they take kind of a cue from Barack Obama, a guy who went to prep school, grew up in an upper middle class.

00:30:16.000 His grandmother was a bank official.

00:30:18.000 And then he told us he was part of the underclass and he had been a victim of racism.

00:30:23.000 And then he was actually a moderate.

00:30:24.000 He was going to balance the budget.

00:30:26.000 He wasn't going to let China be in debt.

00:30:28.000 We weren't going to be in debt to China anymore.

00:30:30.000 He said that he was opposed to gay marriage.

00:30:32.000 He was going to close the border.

00:30:34.000 We know where that was.

00:30:35.000 He had the most liberal voting record, like Kamala Harris almost in the Senate.

00:30:40.000 They will run as a moderate and govern as a radical.

00:30:45.000 So what happens when you give these people power?

00:30:48.000 What happens when you reward the camouflaged communism or the soft socialism that they are expressing?

00:30:59.000 Well, then all of the malevolence, the bitterness, and the deceit that we have seen will be institutionalized.

00:31:07.000 The arc of civilization can be described as this.

00:31:11.000 In the early stage and in the imperfect stage, it is the strong dominating the weak.

00:31:18.000 At its optimal level, it is the strong protecting the weak.

00:31:23.000 And at its disintegrationist level, it is the weak who dominate the strong.

00:31:30.000 And that is where we're headed in our country.

00:31:31.000 We're the people with weak ideas, the people that would not be able to possess power if it wasn't for a political system that rewarded demagoguery and insider favors and pandering to the donor class.

00:31:43.000 If those things were not options, Senator Harris and Joe Biden would be nowhere near political power in our country.

00:31:51.000 Strong protecting the weak would be a true strong person, such as Dwight D. Eisenhower becoming president from 1952 to 1960.

00:32:01.000 The weak dominating the strong is Barack Obama from 2008 to 2016.

00:32:07.000 And that's one of the reasons why Donald Trump's presidency is such an unexpected disruption in the landscape.

00:32:14.000 He's not supposed to exist.

00:32:17.000 He's not supposed to be saying the things that he's saying.

00:32:20.000 None of this was part of the plan.

00:32:22.000 You see, you have to understand that Democrats and leftists, they think sequentially.

00:32:28.000 It could be as closely tied in to something called the Hegelian dialectic.

00:32:34.000 Now, mind you, I am not going to talk about Hegel unless we got a six and a half hour time slot to fill.

00:32:43.000 The Hegelian dialectic can be simply summarized in political terms as a clumsy set of intervals towards a historical aim.

00:32:57.000 This is how the left has always thought.

00:32:59.000 They've always thought of themselves as a thesis and antithesis or antithesis going towards a synthesis.

00:33:07.000 Hegel was incredibly influential to many of the mass murder movements of the 20th century that disguised themselves as benevolent Marxists.

00:33:18.000 So President Donald Trump has an incredible opportunity in front of him.

00:33:22.000 He's already showing more and more promise in a lot of these battleground polls.

00:33:26.000 But Joe Biden is the spokesperson.

00:33:29.000 He is the hired representative of the virtue signaling virtual Zoom Skype class.

00:33:37.000 If President Donald Trump becomes the champion of the muscular middle class, we win a landslide in this country, the likes of which we've never seen.

00:33:47.000 What a great episode that was.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - October 10, 2020

America’s True Divide

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