The Charlie Kirk Show - Ancient Wisdom from the World's Most Important Book—LIVE from Calvary Chapel Lone Mountain

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00:01:11.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:22.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:23.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:24.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:32.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

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00:01:47.000 Can you guys hear me okay?

00:01:49.000 It's great to be here in Vegas.

00:01:51.000 Thank you for having me.

00:01:52.000 What a wonderful church this is.

00:01:53.000 If every church was like this, I don't even need to finish the sentence.

00:01:59.000 You know what I'm going to say.

00:02:00.000 The country would be in a much better place.

00:02:03.000 I think we're going to do this.

00:02:05.000 I'm going to talk for a little bit and then we're going to do some conversation.

00:02:08.000 I think we'll bring up some chairs.

00:02:10.000 I want to thank you all for coming tonight.

00:02:12.000 I know that after yesterday, it was a big day and to come back to church.

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00:02:18.000 And we have a lot to talk about.

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00:02:36.000 For those of you that might follow me on, I'm actually locally here on radio.

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00:02:48.000 You know that I've been wrestling with this idea of what do we do right now.

00:02:53.000 And we've been exploring different options.

00:02:56.000 And it kind of hit me the other day that one of the biggest problem that we're facing right now in the country is not one that is so obvious.

00:03:08.000 We have to repeat it and we have to understand it.

00:03:12.000 And we don't have a problem of truth.

00:03:15.000 In fact, we have the truth on our side.

00:03:17.000 We have a problem of distribution of information.

00:03:21.000 And this is something that, again, we all agree with.

00:03:25.000 I think the biggest issue is we're not able to get our message out to people that should be hearing it.

00:03:32.000 And so, for example, it's not that people are inherently opposed to our viewpoint.

00:03:36.000 It's that they're not properly exposed to it at all in the first place.

00:03:40.000 And whether that be the tech companies or the media companies in our country.

00:03:44.000 So what do we do about that?

00:03:46.000 I want to explore that together.

00:03:48.000 But I'm going to take a step back for those of you that might have no idea what I do or why we do it.

00:03:55.000 I was born and raised in Chicago, Illinois, in the suburbs of Chicago.

00:03:59.000 Good place to be from, right?

00:04:01.000 You see, the fun thing about being from Illinois is we have term limits in Illinois.

00:04:06.000 It's one term in office, one term in jail.

00:04:10.000 It's a little bit different than most states.

00:04:14.000 Went to a Bible-believing church there, gave my life to Jesus when I was in fifth grade. 1.00

00:04:20.000 And if there's any seekers here tonight, hopefully I'll be able to make the case that that's the ultimate purpose of why we're here tonight. 1.00

00:04:28.000 And once you start drinking from the streams of liberty, you're going to want to find its source.

00:04:32.000 Remember, liberty is not man's idea.

00:04:34.000 It's God's idea.

00:04:36.000 We're going to go through that tonight.

00:04:39.000 Started Turning Point USA when I was 18, took a gap year.

00:04:42.000 It's been nine and a half gap years.

00:04:45.000 Eight and a half gap years.

00:04:46.000 It'll be nine in June.

00:04:46.000 I got my ears confused.

00:04:48.000 And it's been an amazing journey.

00:04:50.000 I go to college campuses, so you don't have to.

00:04:52.000 And I've heard it all, almost it all.

00:04:57.000 Brown, Princeton, UCLA, Stanford, you name it.

00:05:02.000 I've spoken at it.

00:05:03.000 Turning Point USA, we're the nation's largest conservative youth organization.

00:05:06.000 Thank you.

00:05:10.000 Fighting for these ideas.

00:05:12.000 We believe America is the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:05:15.000 We believe our rights come from God, not from government.

00:05:18.000 We believe the Constitution is the greatest political document ever written.

00:05:22.000 And more and more, I'm speaking at churches, and I find myself getting back to root causes and ultimate purpose, right?

00:05:32.000 So in the last year, I have had an opportunity to speak at over 50 churches.

00:05:36.000 You might say, well, Charlie, what drove you to do that?

00:05:38.000 It was the only places that were open across the country.

00:05:41.000 So that was helpful.

00:05:44.000 Everything else was closed.

00:05:46.000 You have a wonderful pastor here who speaks with boldness and courage.

00:05:52.000 And as I started to speak at these churches, I realized more and more that the Christian community or the body of Christ in America was not nearly as active as it needed to be in these types of issues.

00:06:11.000 And there's a lot of different reasons for that.

00:06:14.000 And again, my day job is to try to communicate and explain messy political and cultural issues to all people through a biblical lens and through a lens that of God-granted natural rights and natural rights doctrine.

00:06:28.000 And I found when I started to speak at churches, and I'm feeling this right now, that you're not just listening to what I'm telling you.

00:06:35.000 You're actually waiting for me to tell you what to do.

00:06:39.000 And that's an important distinction, right?

00:06:41.000 Sometimes when I go speak at some of these Lincoln-Reagan Day Republican dinners, they're like, okay, put on a show, right?

00:06:47.000 For you tonight, you guys want deployment plans.

00:06:50.000 And I found myself, I said, wow, that's really interesting.

00:06:53.000 The country is deteriorating.

00:06:55.000 Our moral fabric is eroding in front of us.

00:06:59.000 And most churches, not this church, are like, we don't do politics.

00:07:04.000 And let's get into that, right?

00:07:06.000 Because I understand the temptation.

00:07:08.000 I get it.

00:07:08.000 Where it's like, oh, we could kind of believe whatever you want.

00:07:11.000 And you'll meditate your way to heaven.

00:07:14.000 Like, that's not the way it works.

00:07:17.000 And that's a harder message, right?

00:07:20.000 Because there's kind of a punch to it.

00:07:24.000 Well, that's what the scriptures say.

00:07:26.000 And so that's number one.

00:07:27.000 Number two, and I'm going to offer some grace, is that some pastors actually don't know how to properly communicate these issues.

00:07:33.000 They're intimidated by it.

00:07:35.000 They're afraid that they're going to be called bad names.

00:07:37.000 They don't know all the ins and outs of police brutality statistics in America.

00:07:44.000 They don't know all the ins and outs of gun violence statistics in America.

00:07:48.000 So they do the easy thing.

00:07:49.000 We don't talk about that.

00:07:51.000 Therefore, I don't have to contest with those things.

00:07:53.000 I'm here to say tonight, that's no longer an acceptable excuse.

00:07:57.000 It's not.

00:07:58.000 Inform yourself.

00:08:00.000 Be aware of the city of which you are in, as it says in Jeremiah.

00:08:03.000 I promised my wonderful fiancé, I wouldn't say any names.

00:08:06.000 And we're getting married May 8th.

00:08:07.000 Very exciting.

00:08:11.000 And this is the type of pastor that irritates me the most: the woke pastor.

00:08:20.000 Right?

00:08:20.000 I'm not going to say any names.

00:08:22.000 I promise, okay?

00:08:24.000 The woke gospel is not the gospel.

00:08:28.000 And I want to offer some, I'm going to be uncharacteristic here.

00:08:31.000 I'm going to offer some grace, okay, in the spirit of Easter. 0.98

00:08:35.000 Some of these pastors actually believe the rubbish that they say. 0.97

00:08:39.000 I know that's like, of course they do. 0.97

00:08:40.000 No, it's actually hard to believe that they believe this.

00:08:42.000 That they think that Jesus was a social activist, not the savior of the world.

00:08:48.000 Right?

00:08:49.000 Big difference.

00:08:51.000 And like the biggest difference imaginable, right?

00:08:54.000 And so the woke pastors, the ones that seem to try and glean earthly approval, and again, in Romans 12, it says very clearly, do not conform to the ways of the world very clearly.

00:09:14.000 That's a problem.

00:09:17.000 And so let me tell, and I'm not going to say any names.

00:09:19.000 You guys know the pastors.

00:09:20.000 You can fill it in your mind.

00:09:21.000 That's it.

00:09:21.000 Fine.

00:09:22.000 You could do that.

00:09:22.000 See, I'm behaving tonight.

00:09:23.000 It's wonderful.

00:09:26.000 Because I get so frustrated when I start to see people use a pulpit and a church to mislead their congregation.

00:09:37.000 There's an unnamed pastor that does this quite often, where he says, the Bible doesn't really speak clearly into the issue of abortion. 0.98

00:09:47.000 That's true.

00:09:48.000 These are major pastors.

00:09:49.000 No, I know.

00:09:52.000 That's the reaction I had.

00:09:55.000 Wrong.

00:09:57.000 It speaks the most clearly into that issue.

00:10:00.000 That life begins so specifically at conception, that I knew you before you were in the womb, that the baby leapt in Mary's womb.

00:10:15.000 It's so clear.

00:10:16.000 And so I think that's an excuse.

00:10:20.000 Some of them believe it.

00:10:20.000 You're seeing that happen, but I'm telling you right now that wokeism, for lack of a better term, and I don't love the term, but I can tell you where it comes from.

00:10:28.000 It's not a great term.

00:10:29.000 It's seeping into the church.

00:10:32.000 And I think that poorly constructed theological beliefs are directly tied together to poorly constructed political beliefs.

00:10:41.000 I think they're actually tied together.

00:10:44.000 And so what do we do about it?

00:10:46.000 And this kind of goes back to what I opened up with, which is more than anything else, the problem we're facing in our country is a problem of the distribution of information.

00:10:59.000 That's really where it comes down to.

00:11:02.000 And it's a problem that it's not we've never faced it before.

00:11:06.000 It's probably we've let this go on too long.

00:11:08.000 We've complained about the media.

00:11:11.000 We complained about Hollywood.

00:11:12.000 So what do we do about it?

00:11:14.000 Well, it's this simple.

00:11:15.000 I'm going to give you a piece of action that no one else is going to give you.

00:11:19.000 You have to become your own social network.

00:11:22.000 So every single person has lots of contacts in your phone, people in your own network.

00:11:27.000 You now must go and create a physical Facebook.

00:11:30.000 Go do what you did in the 1820s, basically, where you must now bypass the guardians and the gatekeepers and the distribution of information.

00:11:39.000 And you must find whatsoever is true, as it says in Philippians, and spread it amongst your friends.

00:11:45.000 Because the truth, once spoken into the world, will spread.

00:11:49.000 It will.

00:11:50.000 And all it takes is one sentence of truth to deflate a lifetime of lies.

00:11:55.000 And so the other part of this, which is less applicable to you, is we have to start building our own stuff, our own servers, our own social networks, and all that.

00:12:02.000 But for those of you that say, I'm not going to be able to do that, that's 99.9% of all the people, then what are you doing to spread the truth?

00:12:11.000 And here's the answer that many of you will give.

00:12:15.000 I can't because I'm going to get fired.

00:12:18.000 I can't because I'm going to lose friends.

00:12:21.000 Or I can't because I'm going to lose a source of income.

00:12:25.000 Bingo.

00:12:26.000 That's the actual problem. 0.96

00:12:28.000 The actual problem in the country is not the fact that Facebook is controlled by a bunch of secular despots and tyrants.

00:12:34.000 The actual fact is that decent people are afraid of losing their lifestyle.

00:12:41.000 That's the problem.

00:12:42.000 And I get it.

00:12:43.000 Trust me, I'm not saying I'm above this.

00:12:45.000 There's people that I just try to avoid the issue of politics with less and less, actually, probably.

00:12:52.000 But in years past, I don't want the trouble.

00:12:55.000 You've all been there.

00:12:57.000 Or I'm not going to spread the gospel to this person because they're going to think I'm a Bible-clinging bigot.

00:13:04.000 Because that's what you think their stereotype is.

00:13:06.000 When in reality, they might be one sentence away from all of a sudden opening a door for you to spread the gospel.

00:13:14.000 It's not about the conversions, it's about the conversations.

00:13:17.000 And the number one form of censorship in our country is self-censorship.

00:13:23.000 It's people shutting themselves up.

00:13:27.000 And the answer, the question is why?

00:13:30.000 Well, some of it is you don't want to lose your lifestyle.

00:13:32.000 I get it.

00:13:34.000 I'm not saying go and recklessly try and lose your job.

00:13:38.000 It's not a good idea.

00:13:40.000 I'm not pro-martyrdom in that sense, okay?

00:13:44.000 But also, pray for wisdom, James 1:5, and God will what?

00:13:48.000 Give it to you generously.

00:13:50.000 It's one of the few promises in the Bible which God promises to give you generously.

00:13:54.000 But you must believe in it.

00:13:55.000 It continues in James 1, that you must actually believe that God will give it to you, or else it's just never going to happen.

00:14:01.000 So you have to have faith, and God will give you wisdom.

00:14:04.000 I could tell you my life every time God delivers when I ask him for wisdom.

00:14:07.000 Now, what is wisdom?

00:14:08.000 It's a great question.

00:14:10.000 Most young people can't answer it.

00:14:12.000 Wisdom is the knowledge of things that never change.

00:14:15.000 It's eternal knowledge.

00:14:16.000 How people act, what to do, how to analyze situations.

00:14:20.000 Those are things that are eternal.

00:14:22.000 There's practical knowledge and eternal knowledge.

00:14:24.000 Wisdom is the knowledge of things that never change.

00:14:27.000 And I think all of us would agree that there is a courage gap in the country, and we are all guilty of it in our country right now, right?

00:14:34.000 Because we're all kind of just waiting for someone to dip their toe in.

00:14:39.000 This is part of why we do what we do at Turning Point USA, to try to bridge the courage gap.

00:14:44.000 Because as soon as someone sees someone else do it and someone else do it, all of a sudden there's kind of a little bit of a mentality.

00:14:50.000 What I'm saying right now, though, is the country is lost if the courage gap does not get filled.

00:14:58.000 And I'll close with this and then we'll do some questions.

00:15:00.000 See, I'm not that bad.

00:15:01.000 I'll do a pastor's close.

00:15:02.000 So it's another 25 minutes, okay?

00:15:07.000 It's not bad, right?

00:15:10.000 Is that people say, how do I be courageous?

00:15:15.000 Great question.

00:15:17.000 It's actually not a question that many people previously had to ask.

00:15:22.000 Well, let's first define what courage is.

00:15:24.000 It's a pretty, again, the fact we have to define these terms is understandable, but it's also horrifying.

00:15:30.000 Because every young person should be able to tell you what is wisdom, what is truth, what is beauty, what is wonder, what is courage.

00:15:36.000 Instead, they could tell you what systemic racism is or whatever nonsense they're spewing in our schools.

00:15:42.000 Courage is doing the right thing when you don't know how that situation will end.

00:15:49.000 What is a picture of courage that all of you have when you think of World War II?

00:15:54.000 D-Day Beach, Omaha Beach, right?

00:15:58.000 Doing the right thing when you might get killed at that moment.

00:16:02.000 That's courage, right? 1.00

00:16:03.000 How about in all those of our lifetime, F-D-N-Y, going up into the building when you don't know if it's going to fall or not? 1.00

00:16:11.000 That's courage. 0.99

00:16:13.000 When the horrible shooting happened here in Vegas, Amandalay Bay, going into there to save people when you don't know if you're going to survive, that's courage.

00:16:21.000 Now, I'm not asking you to do any of those things, actually.

00:16:24.000 I'm not.

00:16:25.000 I'm saying those, that is courage that's pursuing the good when you don't know if you're going to be able to see the other side.

00:16:32.000 So that's what courage is.

00:16:33.000 So, how does one act courageously?

00:16:38.000 Well, first of all, you need to have someone, anyone in your life, that you know or that you can point to that you can emulate when it comes to courage.

00:16:49.000 One of the major reasons we are lacking in courage is that people are not able to list people who are courageous.

00:16:55.000 We are replicative beings.

00:16:59.000 So, we start tearing down statues of every courageous person that ever came before us.

00:17:02.000 Don't be surprised when we have a crisis of courage.

00:17:06.000 Winston Churchill, George Washington, George S. Patton, Dwight D. Eisenhower.

00:17:11.000 Flawed and courageous men.

00:17:14.000 Everyone's flawed.

00:17:15.000 Again, this whole idea that I'm a better person than someone who lived 200 years ago sickens me.

00:17:19.000 I can get to that in our second segment.

00:17:21.000 And it's actually not biblical, and I'll prove it to you.

00:17:25.000 So, the second thing about, and this is the most obvious thing about courage, you have to decide to be courageous.

00:17:30.000 It's that simple.

00:17:32.000 Anyone could do it.

00:17:34.000 It's actually the most small deed democratic action any human being can take.

00:17:41.000 It is not painting the Mona Lisa.

00:17:46.000 It's not discovering the heliocentric theory of the earth.

00:17:52.000 Every person can be courageous.

00:17:54.000 Think about that.

00:17:55.000 That's not the case for not every person can come up and give a speech.

00:17:59.000 It's just not the way it is.

00:18:00.000 I can't play the musical instruments like it was.

00:18:02.000 But every person here could be courageous.

00:18:04.000 It's pretty amazing.

00:18:06.000 The final thing is: how does one be courageous?

00:18:09.000 It's a commitment in the pursuit of good over feeling good.

00:18:15.000 That's what it takes to be courageous.

00:18:17.000 And so it's not easy, and it's this simple.

00:18:21.000 If we bridge the courage gap, we win like never before.

00:18:26.000 If we stay in a position of cowardice, we're going to get run over, and the country will continue in that way.

00:18:31.000 It's that simple.

00:18:33.000 My number one purpose is trying to draw people closer to their creator through his son, Jesus Christ.

00:18:40.000 And then how you do that and why you do that unfolds from there.

00:18:44.000 And I can make a biblical argument why I think America is the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:18:51.000 And it's very simple.

00:18:52.000 Has the gospel had more success or less success thanks to the creation of the United States of America?

00:18:56.000 It's not even a question.

00:18:58.000 I mean, Western civilization, we have more religious liberty than any other place on the planet.

00:19:02.000 If America were to wither into 90 different micro-countries and factions, do you think the gospel, just talking geopolitically, would be more accepted or less accepted across the planet?

00:19:12.000 We all know the answer to that question.

00:19:15.000 And why is that?

00:19:17.000 I mean, the answer is because this country was actually founded by Christians, something we don't talk about enough.

00:19:23.000 Black Robe Regiment, Roger Williams, Jonathan Edwards, George Whitfield, activist pastors that founded the United States of America because they believed that rights came from God, not King George.

00:19:36.000 And Thomas Jefferson, who some people would call a deist, I think that's unfair, even said himself that the scriptures and the Bible are the greatest piece of literature and document ever written.

00:19:47.000 Out of the signers of the Declaration of Independence that we know of, 72 of 75 or 76 that signed it were regular church-attending Bible-believing Christians.

00:19:56.000 They prayed before every single meeting and the ratification of the Declaration.

00:19:59.000 God is mentioned four times in the Declaration of Independence, and it says clearly that so laws of nature and nature is God.

00:20:07.000 It's a pretty amazing statement when you think about it.

00:20:10.000 They're basically saying, King George, you're not in control.

00:20:13.000 Our Creator is in control.

00:20:14.000 Similar than when Jesus says, render not what to Caesar is a Caesar, but God is God.

00:20:19.000 What Jesus is saying there is, no, no, no, Caesar's not the ultimate authority around here.

00:20:23.000 Whoa, that's a big statement in ancient Rome.

00:20:26.000 It's a big deal.

00:20:27.000 Saying that there's something above the body politic here.

00:20:31.000 And so then we create a civilization based on these ideas.

00:20:34.000 And I feel like we're taking it for granted.

00:20:36.000 We're watching it crumble around us.

00:20:38.000 And so I will also say this: it says in the scriptures, contest for whatsoever is true.

00:20:44.000 So if there's any mathematicians out there or any scientists, awesome.

00:20:50.000 The next Sir Isaac Newton here, physicist.

00:20:53.000 Yes.

00:20:56.000 Laws of nature and nature is God.

00:20:58.000 Well, if you recognize that there are laws of nature, then there must be a creator who made that creation unfold.

00:21:05.000 For example, the second law of thermodynamics, the inevitable law of decay.

00:21:10.000 Force equals mass times acceleration.

00:21:12.000 No matter where you travel in the world, those laws are equally applicable.

00:21:16.000 Founders understood this.

00:21:18.000 So the more they went into the scientific realm, the more it actually confirmed their deeply held religious beliefs.

00:21:23.000 So what's the point of all that?

00:21:25.000 Is that if you're going to become a physicist and you're pursuing truth in the natural world, you're also pursuing whatsoever is true, as Paul says in the scriptures.

00:21:34.000 And so I never say anything, at least I try not to, that is untrue or not factual.

00:21:38.000 If I do, I try to correct it.

00:21:40.000 And I think that we as Christians need to understand that our biblical commandment is to be salt and light in every single arena and every single place of influence, including government and including politics.

00:21:51.000 And I reject a form of Christianity that we're just going to kind of close the doors and hope they eat us last.

00:21:57.000 That is not what I believe we're supposed to do.

00:22:00.000 And you don't either.

00:22:00.000 You do a wonderful job.

00:22:01.000 We're going to get right into the public square.

00:22:04.000 I know this sets us up for bad jokes, but I never heard this question asked.

00:22:08.000 Okay.

00:22:09.000 Political aspirations?

00:22:10.000 Oh, I get this question a lot.

00:22:12.000 I thought so.

00:22:12.000 No, I'm actually far too happy to run for political office.

00:22:16.000 And so, you know, look, I do two hours of radio a day, two podcasts a day.

00:22:23.000 I get to travel the country.

00:22:24.000 Here's my true answer: I just actually talked to two congressmen today. 0.98

00:22:27.000 They were absolutely miserable. 0.63

00:22:29.000 I said, How is that? 0.97

00:22:30.000 It's terrible.

00:22:30.000 It's awful.

00:22:31.000 I said, Who would want to do that?

00:22:33.000 Like, that sounds terrible.

00:22:34.000 And I said, Do you?

00:22:35.000 And then here's the most important question: because misery for a good purpose is temporarily acceptable.

00:22:41.000 But I said, Do you think you're making a difference?

00:22:44.000 They said, No.

00:22:45.000 They said, I'm a congressman.

00:22:47.000 We have no house speeches, basically, no committee markups.

00:22:50.000 Pelosi, there might as well be no minority.

00:22:53.000 It's just basically who has more than one vote.

00:22:57.000 And I said, Well, I know I'm making a difference.

00:22:59.000 Yeah.

00:23:00.000 I mean, that's that simple, right?

00:23:01.000 You know that.

00:23:02.000 And so I know that I'm getting emails of people that are dedicating their life to Christ.

00:23:08.000 And I know that I'm helping people think differently and correctly about issues that are the most pressing.

00:23:13.000 And then I'm able to say things that people can't say because I'm not in a position.

00:23:17.000 I just happen to be at a place where I don't care if you call me all the worst names you could possibly call you and call somebody.

00:23:25.000 And so then I get to speak to young people.

00:23:27.000 The point is that I think I'm exactly where God wants me.

00:23:30.000 And I think it would be a mistake to change that.

00:23:33.000 Yeah, I love it.

00:23:35.000 I love it.

00:23:36.000 And you know, it was that great scholar, Clintius Eastwood, that said, oh, yeah, a man's got to know his limitations.

00:23:47.000 All right.

00:23:47.000 And I think you have to know what you're called to, for real.

00:23:51.000 So let's talk about this censorship issue.

00:23:55.000 Sure.

00:23:55.000 Yeah, this is a big deal.

00:23:57.000 In fact, you know, we saw our own president censored and blocked out of these major social media platforms.

00:24:04.000 And now I've got Calvary Chapel pastor friends who are being banned out of YouTube.

00:24:11.000 And I already told the congregation, we're on YouTube, and I told them it's just a matter of time before they ban us, just probably from you being here.

00:24:18.000 But, you know, I mean, probably true.

00:24:20.000 Probably.

00:24:21.000 But, you know, we kind of have a backup plan, what we're going to do when we get banned and all that stuff.

00:24:28.000 And not anything concrete, but we've got some ideas.

00:24:32.000 But I mean, have you been experienced censorship for banning?

00:24:36.000 And there's some new alternatives being created.

00:24:38.000 There's rumble.com.

00:24:40.000 I encourage you guys to check it out.

00:24:41.000 It's really good.

00:24:42.000 It's a YouTube competitor, R-U-M-B-L-E.com.

00:24:45.000 I post all of my content on there every day.

00:24:48.000 I really encourage you to check it out.

00:24:50.000 They do a great job.

00:24:51.000 Parlor looks like it might come back soon because Apple's getting a little bit nervous, which would be a really big thing.

00:24:56.000 But look, here's really what happened here.

00:24:58.000 And it happened, as Ernest Hemingway said, gradually than suddenly.

00:25:02.000 He had such a beautiful way to put things to me.

00:25:05.000 Probably one of the greatest writers, just because he just, brevity is the soul of wit, and Hemingway was a master of that.

00:25:12.000 And we, as Christians or conservatives, did not understand the importance of building our own infrastructure.

00:25:20.000 And that's okay.

00:25:22.000 We were building bigger buildings, churches, bigger budgets, and focused on baptisms, the three B's of American Christianity.

00:25:29.000 Whereas the religion of the left, and it is a religion, and I could tell you exactly who their church is, who their pope is, they have beliefs, the whole thing, was basically, no, we're going to go build the channels of communication to dominate an entire country, what they can say and when they want to say it.

00:25:48.000 The trouble is that we either underestimated it or we used dogma as a reason not to act.

00:25:55.000 And so I think one of the greatest failures of Republicans in Congress, of which I begrudgingly call myself someone who votes Republican, I even, it's like, whatever that is, right?

00:26:05.000 I mean, I'm sure a lot of you feel the same way.

00:26:08.000 Lesser of two evils in most places, and there are some good people that are there, is that you're more focused on cutting corporate tax rates than making sure that people that have truth be able to speak online.

00:26:18.000 And so here's the argument: if you're not able to speak your mind on digital or social media, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, then I believe it's a direct violation of the First Amendment.

00:26:28.000 And they say, well, these are private companies.

00:26:31.000 And I think that you probably lose that argument in my mind once you have 100 million users.

00:26:36.000 You become no different than a highway.

00:26:39.000 And so those of you from Chicago, you know the Chicago Skyway, right?

00:26:43.000 You've probably driven from Gary, Indiana to downtown Chicago.

00:26:45.000 It's a private expressway.

00:26:46.000 You've probably done it many times.

00:26:48.000 It's private.

00:26:48.000 A private group of investors built this highway.

00:26:51.000 It's against federal law to pull people over on the Chicago Skyway and say that Christians are not allowed to drive on the Chicago Skyway.

00:26:58.000 That'd be against the law, right? 0.62

00:27:00.000 Even though it's private.

00:27:01.000 That's an interstate highway.

00:27:03.000 These are information highways.

00:27:05.000 So we have to treat them like information highways.

00:27:07.000 So some people say, Charlie, what about hate speech online?

00:27:10.000 I'm a free speech absolutist.

00:27:11.000 I think more speech is better.

00:27:14.000 Always.

00:27:14.000 Better ideas will win when given a peer forum.

00:27:17.000 The only thing I think that might make sense, though, is when you have all these anonymous accounts that post all this awful stuff.

00:27:25.000 Solve it very simply.

00:27:26.000 If you have over 50 million users, then you must have people prove their identity.

00:27:31.000 You get rid of a lot of these anonymous accounts.

00:27:34.000 All of a sudden, people are going to have to own what they have to say.

00:27:36.000 And if they're going to say something nasty, then so be it.

00:27:39.000 And so I think it's really troubling when my pastor, Rob McCoy, Calvary Chapel Thousand Oaks, he just gets kicked off YouTube one day almost instantaneously for violating community guidelines.

00:27:51.000 I always laugh around the community guidelines thing, too.

00:27:54.000 It's their way to try to discriminate.

00:27:56.000 Could you imagine if someone would say, like, oh, we don't allow you into our restaurant based on the color of your skin because those are our community guidelines?

00:28:05.000 Like, you'd laugh at them.

00:28:06.000 You'd say, no, no, we know exactly what you're doing.

00:28:08.000 And that's exactly where it is here.

00:28:09.000 So what do we do about it?

00:28:11.000 We have to go help competitors like Rumble, like Parlor, and some of these other ones that are coming out.

00:28:17.000 Our politicians are hopefully going to hold these companies accountable.

00:28:20.000 And it's a major, major issue.

00:28:22.000 92% of all search results go through one company, Google.

00:28:25.000 92%.

00:28:27.000 And they're kicking pastors off almost every single day of these channels.

00:28:31.000 And so if you're not able to speak online, I would contest with you that you're really not able to speak in the 21st century.

00:28:38.000 It is the new public square, and you must be able to have constitutionally protected rights in the public square, online or otherwise.

00:28:46.000 Well, and that goes back to the whole political issue.

00:28:49.000 All of these social media giants were brought before Congress.

00:28:53.000 And all these congressmen paraded out in front of them and put on the show and berated them all.

00:29:00.000 And aha, we got all these gotchas.

00:29:02.000 And they put them in their place and reminded them that, hey, they get tax exemptions for the fact that they are a public commodity, but they shouldn't have those anymore.

00:29:14.000 And then all of a sudden, we don't talk about it anymore, which shows how broken our government is.

00:29:20.000 I mean, and we live in an extra-constitutional moment in our country, which is really creepy.

00:29:25.000 And I don't use that word lightly.

00:29:26.000 So it's not just the government that we have to worry about.

00:29:29.000 And this is a great example of what's happening in Georgia.

00:29:31.000 And this voting law is so unbelievably vanilla.

00:29:34.000 The fact that they're read the law.

00:29:37.000 Before anyone gets angry about it, just read the law.

00:29:39.000 It extends voting times.

00:29:40.000 It allows Sunday voting. 0.85

00:29:41.000 Yes, you could still give people water when they want to vote, as if voting's like dehydration, like you're going through the Navy SEALs exercise, ridiculous.

00:29:50.000 And all it does is it requires you to have proof of identity when you send in an absentee ballot.

00:29:54.000 That's the big thing they're upset about.

00:29:54.000 That's it.

00:29:56.000 And they're acting as if this is the worst thing ever.

00:29:58.000 Of course, it isn't.

00:29:59.000 So you could tell where the power is in a country based on who's able to administer a punishment.

00:30:05.000 It's a really good way to tell out who has power.

00:30:08.000 Yeah, yeah, right.

00:30:09.000 So the government actually is not the one that's able to administer the punishment.

00:30:13.000 Joe Biden comes up and just lies about the bill, flat-out lies about the bill.

00:30:16.000 But that's not the point.

00:30:17.000 The point is that the punishment came from non-government actors.

00:30:21.000 Major League Baseball.

00:30:23.000 Really?

00:30:24.000 Major League Baseball comes out and they're like, oh, this doesn't reflect our values.

00:30:27.000 I'm sorry.

00:30:28.000 When I went to a Cubs game for will call tickets, I had to show an ID to get into Wrigley Field.

00:30:33.000 So that doesn't represent your values?

00:30:37.000 And so then Delta Airlines.

00:30:40.000 This is draconian.

00:30:41.000 Again, good luck boarding the next flight out of Las Vegas to JFK on Delta Airlines without an identification.

00:30:52.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:30:53.000 And they want the COVID passport to identify everyone, but they don't want the ID.

00:30:56.000 And again, this is not even requiring identification.

00:30:59.000 It's requiring you to prove who you are when you send an absentee ballot.

00:31:03.000 There's still no ID requirement when you go and vote in person in Georgia, of which it's a month long.

00:31:07.000 So what's the deeper point here is that we live in this extra constitutional moment where we're actually dealing with punishment that's outside of the apparatus of government.

00:31:19.000 And you have a president, Joe Biden, who's basically waging economic warfare on the people of Georgia.

00:31:24.000 So here's his argument.

00:31:26.000 He says, this is so racist, go move the All-Star Game, of which a county is 62% black.

00:31:32.000 $100 million of economic development for that county.

00:31:35.000 Thousands of black people would be employed at that all-star game. 1.00

00:31:39.000 Go move to Denver, which is one of the whitest counties in the country. 1.00

00:31:39.000 So what do they do? 1.00

00:31:45.000 No, it is.

00:31:46.000 And one of the most affluent counties.

00:31:47.000 So let me get this straight.

00:31:48.000 To try to go fight racism, you're moving an economic stimulus from a black county to a white county in Colorado.

00:31:57.000 That's your idea of trying to achieve racial equity, and they don't even believe it.

00:32:01.000 You know why?

00:32:02.000 Why not cancel the other 82 major league baseball games that are happening in Georgia?

00:32:07.000 They know it's, they're only trying to do this symbolically.

00:32:09.000 They're trying to make it hurt so that they can go accomplish a political aim.

00:32:14.000 And then you have James Quincy, the head of Coca-Cola, coming around and he says, this doesn't reflect our values.

00:32:19.000 He says like four times in the interview.

00:32:21.000 He's like reading a script that some guy in the HR department handed to him.

00:32:25.000 And so what we have to realize is that there's this whole new superstructure of corporate actors that are all of a sudden acting like Democrat political super PACs.

00:32:33.000 And it's fine.

00:32:34.000 If you're a Democrat political super PAC, that's fine.

00:32:36.000 You have a right to do that.

00:32:38.000 You're Delta Airlines.

00:32:39.000 Your job is literally to transport people from one city to the other.

00:32:42.000 Your job is not trying to make clarity about political issues.

00:32:46.000 Coca-Cola, your job is literally to give people diabetes, okay?

00:32:49.000 It's nothing more than that.

00:32:52.000 It's not about trying to effectuate political change, right?

00:32:55.000 And by the way, before they start lecturing about, eh, we're the greatest company ever, like how many people have died of heart disease by drinking Coca-Cola?

00:33:02.000 You don't reflect my values, James Quincy, man.

00:33:04.000 Like, give me a break.

00:33:06.000 And so please stick to your mission statement.

00:33:09.000 And one of the reasons why these companies have been able to be so successful and so rich is because they stayed out of these issues.

00:33:15.000 Right.

00:33:16.000 It's because they've actually been apolitical.

00:33:18.000 And they're going to realize that, hey, in these massive companies where you live on 15% margins, when you alienate 75 million people, it's not exactly going to end well.

00:33:28.000 And I don't love the idea of boycotts.

00:33:30.000 I think it's inherently a leftist tactic.

00:33:32.000 But I'm not going to go out of my way to go buy Coca-Cola now, right?

00:33:36.000 I'm not going to, and I'm not going to go out of my way to go fly Delta Airlines.

00:33:39.000 I'm not.

00:33:39.000 And so, and I think that you should purchase your values in alignment with them, especially when they start to do things as egregious as that.

00:33:46.000 And this is a whole new development that I hope you're all watching in real time that's new.

00:33:50.000 I want to say, this is new.

00:33:52.000 The idea that Delta Airlines 20 years ago, they're an airline, okay?

00:33:56.000 It's not CNN, okay?

00:33:59.000 And yet they're coming out with these long statements.

00:34:01.000 United Airlines, no one asked them, right?

00:34:03.000 They come out with this long statement today.

00:34:05.000 It's like, you're an airline.

00:34:07.000 You're nothing around that.

00:34:08.000 And there's a lot of different reasons for it.

00:34:09.000 I can get into it.

00:34:09.000 But the bigger point is this: understand that the confluence of who's actually trying to crush this country is more than just a specific political party and people in government.

00:34:20.000 It's in all sorts of different institutions, both private and public.

00:34:24.000 I mean, ultimately, it's a spiritual problem.

00:34:26.000 I agree.

00:34:27.000 And that's what we're seeing.

00:34:28.000 We're actually seeing spiritual warfare act up.

00:34:31.000 People think spiritual warfare, and sadly, you know, there are many Christians who go around thinking that spiritual warfare means you got to cast demons out of every corner of the room. 0.98

00:34:40.000 And, you know, I see you over there, you bad demon.

00:34:42.000 I bind you in the name of Jesus. 0.70

00:34:45.000 And that's not spiritual warfare.

00:34:46.000 I mean, spiritual warfare is really manifested in the physical realm.

00:34:51.000 That's where you see spiritual warfare.

00:34:52.000 If it was only in the spiritual realm, you wouldn't see it because the spiritual realm is invisible to you.

00:34:58.000 And so, you know, when you look at what's happening in the country, what you're seeing is spiritual warfare.

00:35:03.000 And notice that the same thing that the liberal world is saying is okay for them is not okay for you.

00:35:15.000 And not only is it not okay for you, but somehow they have a voice that they can get it out there and make it sound like they're okay.

00:35:23.000 And I was watching all these posts online on the boycott thing.

00:35:29.000 And I don't agree with you.

00:35:30.000 I think boycotting has its place.

00:35:32.000 I don't think it's effective, really, because most people won't give up their Coke.

00:35:36.000 I was telling my wife, you know, if her dad would quit drinking Diet Coke for breakfast, it would break Coke overnight.

00:35:41.000 He drinks so much Coke, you know, and he loves his Diet Coke, you know, but the bottom line is there's a big difference between saying, hey, I won't do business with that company versus cancel culture, which is what the left uses.

00:35:41.000 That's right.

00:35:56.000 And now they're accusing the right of using cancel culture because we won't do business with Delta or Coke or whatever.

00:36:03.000 It's also hilarious.

00:36:04.000 It's like you guys are trying to cancel Major League Baseball, and then you get mad when all of a sudden we're like, no, we're not going to go voluntarily go buy Coca-Cola.

00:36:12.000 Like, that's us trying to cancel you?

00:36:14.000 No, I'm just going to keep on walking through the aisle when I walk by Coca-Cola.

00:36:18.000 Like, if they're intentionally gaslighting the issue, right?

00:36:21.000 They're using a term that we've used.

00:36:23.000 Let me tell you what cancel culture is.

00:36:24.000 This is what cancel culture is.

00:36:26.000 When I go to a college campus and people come in and pull fire alarms to try to prevent me from speaking, I'm not saying we should go shut down Coca-Cola.

00:36:33.000 I'm not saying that we should go all of a sudden and say they don't have a right to exist.

00:36:36.000 I'm going to say, I'm going to keep on walking by.

00:36:38.000 For example, I wouldn't say anyone's trying to do cancel culture when I go to a college campus.

00:36:42.000 They say, oh, Charlie Kirk's speaking, and they keep on walking.

00:36:44.000 That's fine.

00:36:45.000 That's voluntary exchange.

00:36:46.000 As soon as they come in and they try to pull a fire alarm or smash a window or try to disrupt my speech, that's when you get into that idea that we find so detestable.

00:36:55.000 They're intentionally trying to blur those two things together and conflate them.

00:36:58.000 Absolutely.

00:36:59.000 Absolutely.

00:37:00.000 So, you know, if this is a spiritual problem, obviously you see that because you're doing something now, and I wanted you to speak on it.

00:37:08.000 And this is a brand new thing.

00:37:10.000 It hasn't even happened yet, but it's coming out right now.

00:37:12.000 Turning point face.

00:37:13.000 It's happening in real time.

00:37:15.000 And so it's really exciting.

00:37:17.000 I think we're still trying to figure out some of the specifics of it, which we've had a lot of success on college campuses, organizing young people.

00:37:24.000 And I encourage you to come tomorrow night.

00:37:26.000 You're going to see a ton of young people that are really pursuing truth.

00:37:29.000 It's at Ahern, I think, at 7 o'clock tomorrow.

00:37:29.000 It's going to be a lot of fun.

00:37:32.000 Make sure you get there.

00:37:33.000 It's going to be a lot of fun.

00:37:35.000 So as I started to speak at these churches, as I mentioned last year, over 50 of them, from Bangor, Maine to Albuquerque with my friend Steve Smotherman, amongst others, I realized that there are so many courageous pastors that are not properly equipped to speak out on these issues.

00:37:53.000 Either they feel like they're alone, they need encouragement, they need some resources, they might need, you know, a quick, easy-to-print sermon on HR5 or HR1, and with the biblical reasons why that might be wrong.

00:38:05.000 And so I said, well, if we're able to organize college campuses, are we able to do anything in the churches?

00:38:11.000 That's my question.

00:38:12.000 And I think the answer is yes.

00:38:14.000 I want to have hopefully some, you know, as soon as you think you have humility, you don't have it.

00:38:18.000 So I hope I have some humility.

00:38:20.000 Let me put it that's one of the great ironies of any self-described trait.

00:38:23.000 I hope I have humility to be able to get into this and be able to handle this, where I think that we need a thousand Dietrich Bonhoeffers in our country and we need them quickly.

00:38:32.000 And that's one of our main missions.

00:38:34.000 I want you to imagine a thousand churches like this.

00:38:37.000 The country would look a lot different.

00:38:39.000 And all of a sudden, some of these things that we consider to be unthinkable in public policy will start to change.

00:38:45.000 And so it says in Jeremiah to pray for the welfare of which the city you are in, to care about the city you are in.

00:38:52.000 In 1 Timothy, it says very clearly to pray for the leaders by names that you might live quiet and peaceable lives.

00:38:58.000 Are we living quiet and peaceable lives now?

00:39:00.000 Well, we're charged to do that amongst many other things.

00:39:03.000 And so it's my current focus to try and get as many pastors the resources and the encouragements that they might speak out biblically on these issues.

00:39:15.000 They feel that they're not alone, to organize the churches, to form cultural impact teams.

00:39:20.000 If you have a financial counseling ministry, most churches do, a marriage ministry, a youth ministry, a singles ministry, a Bible ministry, my fiancé has a Bible in 365 ministry where you can read her whole Bible in one year.

00:39:32.000 You have all these different ministries, but all of a sudden you don't have a ministry that speaks clearly into civics or the news cycle, then you're missing a huge gap here.

00:39:41.000 And all of a sudden, people want to know, like, I get these questions.

00:39:43.000 Charlie, what does the Bible say about immigration?

00:39:47.000 Great question.

00:39:47.000 It says a lot.

00:39:49.000 Almost every single verse about immigration in the Bible is about assimilation.

00:39:53.000 It's about the preservation of the nation of which people are immigrating into.

00:39:57.000 That's an interesting point.

00:39:58.000 What does the Bible say about socialism?

00:40:00.000 Because people say Jesus is socialist.

00:40:02.000 Well, first of all, socialism violates two out of the ten commandments: thou shalt not covet, thou shalt not steal.

00:40:07.000 It also directly violates the parable of talent.

00:40:11.000 Right?

00:40:14.000 Socialism as we know it.

00:40:15.000 As we know, yeah.

00:40:16.000 Because, I mean, if you think about it, even communism, if it wasn't for sin, would be perfect.

00:40:22.000 I mean, minor detail. 0.82

00:40:23.000 I mean, if you think about it, if all men had all things in common, I mean, the church tried that. 0.77

00:40:28.000 It failed miserably.

00:40:29.000 But why did it fail?

00:40:30.000 Sin.

00:40:32.000 If it wasn't for sin, we'd all be, well, I'd be out of work, but, you know, also, I'm only here because of you bunch of sinners.

00:40:39.000 You actually strike a really important point, which is where the church should be weighing in on this, is that if you ask a group of young people, I'm not going to ask this question because it would, I don't want to put anyone on the spot, do you think people are basically good or basically bad?

00:40:53.000 Most young people say they're basically good.

00:40:56.000 Which anyone who opens up their Bible, we know that's not true.

00:41:00.000 They're basically bad, broken by nature, in need of Jesus Christ for eternal life, right?

00:41:07.000 But if you think people are basically good, this is a very important point.

00:41:10.000 Well, then you must explain all the evil.

00:41:13.000 So how do they explain the evil?

00:41:15.000 Society.

00:41:16.000 Biden.

00:41:20.000 That's where the evil comes from.

00:41:23.000 We were all happy till he came along.

00:41:26.000 So they blame society and they blame capitalism.

00:41:29.000 They'll blame private property.

00:41:30.000 They'll blame white supremacy.

00:41:32.000 And so they're like, oh, no, no, no. 0.99

00:41:33.000 Every single one of you are actually pretty awful.

00:41:37.000 The only way you can believe actually people are basically good is if you live in America where people actually act basically decent. 0.94

00:41:46.000 You go visit the rest of the world.

00:41:48.000 They'll tell me how that hypothesis works out.

00:41:50.000 And so this is a moment right now going back to Turning Point Faith.

00:41:53.000 There'll be some announcements coming.

00:41:54.000 We're going to do pastor conferences.

00:41:56.000 We're going to do something called the Freedom Square that we're starting at my friend, the Barnett's Church in Dream City Church in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:42:02.000 We're going to blast it out once a month and then hopefully once a week where we're going to offer biblical clarity into the news cycle.

00:42:08.000 And I just want to raise the conversation, the energy.

00:42:11.000 I want to raise the excitement, the engagement that people have on these issues.

00:42:15.000 I want to change our posture as a church.

00:42:17.000 People say, what does success look like in Turning Point Faith?

00:42:20.000 I want to go from a passive posture or an uncertain posture to an active posture.

00:42:24.000 Yes, I'm going to run for a school board.

00:42:26.000 Yes, I'm going to get involved in my kids' education.

00:42:28.000 Yes, I'm going to actually see what they're learning when it comes to politics.

00:42:31.000 Yes, I'm going to watch the news differently.

00:42:33.000 And so I want people to go from a passive posture to an active posture.

00:42:37.000 If I can even do that a little bit, I think that project will be a success.

00:42:40.000 Me too.

00:42:41.000 Me too.

00:42:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:42:46.000 Before we go to QA, let me ask one more question.

00:42:49.000 I'm curious.

00:42:50.000 Ultimately, Turning Point Faith will be very effective and useful for pastors.

00:42:55.000 And it should be that the pastors influence the church.

00:43:00.000 However, a lot of pastors are influenced by their congregation.

00:43:02.000 Is there any part of Turning Point Faith that has a view to reaching the congregation?

00:43:06.000 Yeah, and so that's why we'll have the mass media side of it and bring guest speakers because I want all of you, and if this is not your home church, I hope you're moved to go back to your pastor and lovingly say, hey, why aren't we doing this?

00:43:21.000 Why aren't we doing voter guides?

00:43:23.000 Why aren't we doing voter registration? 1.00

00:43:25.000 Why don't you speak out about a million abortions a year? 0.86

00:43:28.000 Why don't you speak out about how God made man and God made woman?

00:43:31.000 And HR5 is trying to end that.

00:43:33.000 Just very basic questions.

00:43:35.000 And I can give you some, hopefully, some good responses to that.

00:43:39.000 Because the congregation, whether you guys realize it or not, you're the shareholders of these churches.

00:43:44.000 And the pastors need to know that there's not just interest, there's demand for this.

00:43:50.000 Now, you want your pastor to come out once a quarter, minimum, and say, here's what's happening in the world.

00:43:57.000 Here's what the Bible says, and here's what we do.

00:43:59.000 Pretty simple, right?

00:44:00.000 We're not asking for some sort of 90-minute lecture on Thomas Hobbes' view on social contract theory.

00:44:07.000 Happy to do that later if people want.

00:44:09.000 Not asking for that, okay?

00:44:11.000 We're asking for something super simple.

00:44:12.000 What's happening in the world?

00:44:13.000 Okay, open up your newspaper.

00:44:15.000 What does the Bible say about it?

00:44:16.000 Open up your Bible, and what do we do about it?

00:44:18.000 And guess what? 0.85

00:44:18.000 The action steps are almost always the same. 0.85

00:44:20.000 Just so it should be very clear, they're like not that many different action steps.

00:44:24.000 Sometimes there are.

00:44:25.000 That's all we're asking for.

00:44:26.000 What's happening?

00:44:27.000 What does the Bible say?

00:44:28.000 What do we do?

00:44:30.000 There's no reason why every church shouldn't be doing this.

00:44:33.000 And so I want to also encourage and put my arm around these pastors and say, hey, if you need help, call us.

00:44:42.000 If you do not know how to properly explain critical race theory, free market economics, the invisible hand, socialism, immigration, globalism, any of these things, right?

00:44:52.000 We do.

00:44:52.000 That's kind of the language we speak.

00:44:54.000 I'll call you, and I will.

00:44:55.000 I mean this, and I might call you if I have trouble interpreting the scriptures.

00:44:59.000 But we also have a whole pastoral team that's going to be helping with this.

00:45:02.000 I think that'll be really exciting.

00:45:03.000 You know, some of them, Jack Hibbs, Rob McCoy, some great people that work on that.

00:45:07.000 It'd be great.

00:45:08.000 Yeah.

00:45:09.000 Fantastic.

00:45:09.000 So one last thing, because I know these guys have a lot of questions.

00:45:12.000 We're kind of a family here, this church.

00:45:15.000 And yeah, amen, right?

00:45:16.000 And, you know, as family, we don't just like ignore people.

00:45:20.000 So we want to meet your fiancé.

00:45:22.000 Oh, stand up.

00:45:27.000 Say hi to everybody.

00:45:33.000 And so these guys are getting married in May.

00:45:36.000 Yes.

00:45:36.000 And so we're excited for you guys.

00:45:39.000 And we're really blessed to see this happening.

00:45:43.000 That's really incredible.

00:45:44.000 So we've got some mics up here.

00:45:47.000 David, we have mics.

00:45:49.000 There we go.

00:45:49.000 There's our mic, guys.

00:45:50.000 All right.

00:45:51.000 And so if you have questions, because we are live streaming, we do have people watching this online.

00:45:57.000 We do ask it.

00:45:57.000 You ask your questions on the mic.

00:45:59.000 And we'll have, can we have a couple guys up here with mics?

00:46:02.000 That way, if you have a question, you can get on the next mic and we're not waiting for people to walk up.

00:46:08.000 So come on up the sides over here.

00:46:11.000 And that way we'll make a line if you have questions.

00:46:14.000 And go ahead and just start over here.

00:46:16.000 And we'll get a mic over on this side too.

00:46:18.000 Cool. 0.97

00:46:20.000 Danielle. 0.97

00:46:21.000 Young people get preference. 0.99

00:46:22.000 Sorry. 1.00

00:46:23.000 Young people.

00:46:24.000 Amen.

00:46:25.000 Here you go. 0.99

00:46:28.000 Malcolm X said, only a fool would send his children to have his enemy educate them. 0.96

00:46:38.000 My question is, as long as 80 to 85% of Christians hand their children over to the humanist government system to educate them, how do we have a future? 0.98

00:46:53.000 And do you think there's a connection that 80 to 85 percent of Christians leave the faith?

00:47:01.000 It's an interesting question. 1.00

00:47:03.000 I usually don't look for Malcolm X for wisdom, but that's probably a true.

00:47:07.000 It's probably a true point.

00:47:08.000 He did say some true things, though.

00:47:10.000 And I understand the point.

00:47:11.000 I'm giving you a hard time.

00:47:12.000 Yeah, of course. 0.78

00:47:13.000 I mean, look, I'm literally my next book is Making the Case Why Young People Shouldn't Go to College.

00:47:18.000 A little provocative.

00:47:19.000 And I'm not saying that if you're going to college, you're making the wrong choice.

00:47:22.000 I'm going to come from the default position that you don't need it unless you can prove to me you need it.

00:47:28.000 We need more plumbers, electricians, HVAC entrepreneurs, police officers, firefighters, people that work with their hands.

00:47:34.000 I'm venturing a guess that plumbers in Vegas are earning more than people that studied North African lesbian poetry, like just or South American non-binary underwater whatever.

00:47:50.000 So, and look, I'm a big believer, and this is the way that I'm able to, our audience is different than just your traditional show: is that I try to speak for the muscular class in this country.

00:48:02.000 I speak for the people that are kind of looked down upon.

00:48:06.000 Like, I didn't go to college, okay?

00:48:07.000 I didn't.

00:48:08.000 So, I'm the best person and the worst person to talk about this.

00:48:10.000 I fully admit, okay?

00:48:11.000 So, people say, well, you never went to college, so you don't know.

00:48:13.000 I get it.

00:48:13.000 You're right.

00:48:14.000 I didn't do that.

00:48:15.000 I've visited over 150 colleges, and I represent an organization in a lot of colleges, so I happen to know a lot about it, but you're right.

00:48:22.000 But I can tell you that there is a serious problem in this country, and I will aggressively defend every single one of you that didn't go to college that looked down on all of you.

00:48:31.000 And it's disgusting.

00:48:33.000 Your value is tied to whether or not you got some piece of paper from a university.

00:48:37.000 Not your character, not your soul, not your spirituality, not your actions, not your family, not your.

00:48:43.000 No, they're like, oh, where'd you go to college?

00:48:45.000 I didn't.

00:48:46.000 Okay, simpleton, go out into the hills. 0.99

00:48:48.000 Ridiculous. 0.99

00:48:49.000 It's wrong, and we need to talk about it more. 0.96

00:48:51.000 In fact, I think there's more wisdom in the plumbing community than in the Harvard professorial community.

00:48:57.000 And so I will say this.

00:49:00.000 So what's the solution?

00:49:02.000 We need more homeschooling, and we need to support people that homeschool.

00:49:06.000 We need more people that have alternative educational options.

00:49:11.000 And then when it comes to college, if you believe it's the choice for you, great.

00:49:16.000 Prove it to me.

00:49:17.000 Say that I'm only going to borrow this much.

00:49:20.000 I'll be able to pay it off here.

00:49:22.000 I'm going to study this.

00:49:23.000 I'm going to go find the most important word when it comes to college.

00:49:27.000 I'm going to go find a skill.

00:49:30.000 Remember, I interviewed a young man from University of Southern California.

00:49:33.000 His name will remain nameless.

00:49:34.000 Didn't end up hiring him.

00:49:36.000 And he said, I would like a job.

00:49:37.000 Really impressive resume by all standards, but I look at things differently.

00:49:40.000 I said, what's your skill?

00:49:42.000 He said, I study political science.

00:49:44.000 I said, I know.

00:49:44.000 What's your skill?

00:49:47.000 And he said, I went to the best school.

00:49:49.000 I graduated.

00:49:50.000 I said, I got that.

00:49:51.000 What can you do that an 18-year-old can't do?

00:49:54.000 And he said, well, I can write papers and all this.

00:49:56.000 I said, yeah, yeah, I got all that.

00:49:58.000 Skill.

00:49:59.000 Skill.

00:50:00.000 Differentiator.

00:50:02.000 I just had an electrician walk to the office.

00:50:03.000 There was wiring that I thought he was going to blow the place up like Chernobyl.

00:50:08.000 That's a skill.

00:50:09.000 I don't get any of that stuff.

00:50:11.000 For you, I go find an aspirational 18-year-old and pay him like minimum wage, and he's not corrupted by all this entitled ideas.

00:50:18.000 No one ever talked to him that way, obviously.

00:50:20.000 And I'm not trying to insult people that have gone to college and have done that.

00:50:23.000 I get it.

00:50:23.000 I understand it because you were told and you were told a lie by your people around you to do that.

00:50:28.000 And I'll get to a piece of loving feedback for other people.

00:50:32.000 The point is that if you're not getting a skill, you shouldn't be going to college.

00:50:34.000 And let me just speak to the parents out there as lovingly as I can.

00:50:37.000 I understand you want what's best for your kids.

00:50:39.000 I get it.

00:50:39.000 That's your motive.

00:50:40.000 That's your intention, okay?

00:50:42.000 However, sometimes there are secondary and tertiary intentions, which is this.

00:50:48.000 Here's the test.

00:50:50.000 If your son or daughter decides not to go to college and you're walking through the grocery store line and you see a neighbor and they say, hey, how's your son doing?

00:50:58.000 And you're afraid to say that your son or daughter is not going to college, you're the problem.

00:51:03.000 It's that simple.

00:51:04.000 If it's about your social status, that's a problem.

00:51:09.000 I get it because you say, oh, college degree means they're going to earn more.

00:51:12.000 That's not right.

00:51:12.000 None of the data supports it.

00:51:13.000 It's a lie.

00:51:14.000 I could pick it apart chapter and verse.

00:51:17.000 So that's some things to think about.

00:51:19.000 I agree with you on those levels.

00:51:20.000 Should go buy my next book, of which I think you're going to find it's not off until August or September.

00:51:26.000 I do agree with you, Charlie, completely, but let me also say, can you get some water, please?

00:51:32.000 This is the desert.

00:51:32.000 He's not used to this.

00:51:35.000 But the one thing that I would say on top of that is don't think that all of a sudden getting a degree is a bad idea.

00:51:45.000 First of all, the question is, what are you going to do with it?

00:51:48.000 And if you're going to use it for the kingdom, there are those who are getting medical degrees and law degrees for the sake of the kingdom, for the sake of doing ministry, to do work that they couldn't do otherwise.

00:52:01.000 There are those, you cannot go work for Wycliffe Bible translators unless you've got an advanced degree in linguistics and Bible translation.

00:52:10.000 Thank you.

00:52:12.000 So you get your degree in linguistics and then you go translate Bibles.

00:52:17.000 Hey, that's a great use for a degree.

00:52:19.000 And I will say this: as we look at our campuses across the country, and I'm blessed that guys like Charlie are on the campuses because very, very few of the professors are actually conservatives that believe in conservative values, a very small minority.

00:52:35.000 But I would say that's the church's fault.

00:52:37.000 If you're going to get a degree, why wouldn't you go become a professor and stand up for righteousness on campus?

00:52:44.000 You know, I mean, there are a few out there, but why are the schools taking over?

00:52:49.000 Because the devil has strategized for years to take over our kids, and we stayed asleep and let it happen. 0.99

00:52:56.000 And so, shame on us, shame on the church for not saying, honey, you're going to grow up and get a degree in English, and everybody's going to think you're really stupid for getting a degree in English. 0.99

00:53:05.000 But guess what? 0.97

00:53:06.000 You're going to become an English professor, and you're going to start proclaiming Christian values in the university world. 1.00

00:53:13.000 Boo-ya! 1.00

00:53:14.000 Now you've got a degree that matters.

00:53:19.000 When are you here?

00:53:20.000 Yeah.

00:53:20.000 Thank you.

00:53:21.000 Okay.

00:53:23.000 You mentioned about HR5.

00:53:25.000 Yes.

00:53:27.000 So I would like you to comment on it.

00:53:29.000 And besides calling or writing to our elected officials, what else can we do as an individual or as a church?

00:53:38.000 It's a great, great question.

00:53:40.000 So it's about HR5.

00:53:41.000 It's past the House of Representatives.

00:53:44.000 It's rather stunning how radical it is and how silent the church has been on it, quite honestly, not this church, the general church.

00:53:53.000 You know, I mean, it expands the Civil Rights Act to apply to people who think they're something different than their biological sex or gender.

00:54:03.000 And so it would destroy women's sports as we know it, and that's already happening in real time in our country.

00:54:10.000 It also expands the fact that anyone that holds a biblical view of marriage would be in violation of the Civil Rights Act, including potentially faith-based adoption centers and private schools.

00:54:20.000 It would put a preference on teaching abortion in schools across the country.

00:54:25.000 And I could go on and on and on.

00:54:26.000 I did an entire podcast on HR5 if people are really interested.

00:54:31.000 I read it piece by piece.

00:54:32.000 It was an hour and a half podcast.

00:54:33.000 HR1 is also a huge problem.

00:54:35.000 In fact, it's a bigger problem because it actually goes to how we elect people in our country and the way we do elections.

00:54:41.000 Happy to dive into that if that's an interest of anyone here.

00:54:43.000 I've done a ton of research.

00:54:45.000 Okay, so HR1 is also passed the House.

00:54:48.000 It would nationalize elections, mandate mail-in, absentee balloting.

00:54:53.000 It would register every person automatically to vote in the prison system and who has a driver's license, including foreign nationals.

00:55:00.000 It would repeal many of the state-based reforms that have happened that allow 27 states that allow voter ID and allow these sort of reforms.

00:55:08.000 It would get rid of all of them.

00:55:10.000 It's probably unconstitutional.

00:55:12.000 And if it passes the Senate, I don't know if Republicans will ever win another election again.

00:55:16.000 That's basically their intention.

00:55:18.000 I don't think it's going to pass, but it's something that we have to be very concerned about.

00:55:21.000 And HR5 is probably more applicable to the church, and a lot of churches are just kind of silent on it, which tells you almost everything you need to know on that.

00:55:31.000 So, what can you do about it?

00:55:33.000 Obviously, I think both your senators are probably going to vote for it, unfortunately, which is too bad.

00:55:40.000 Which is, yeah, that's not a huge surprise.

00:55:43.000 However, don't underestimate the power that you have to make noise or your influence in other ways beyond that.

00:55:52.000 The worst thing you can do is nothing.

00:55:54.000 So, people say, well, Charlie, our odds of winning, you're not in the, you're not, well, you guys are in Vegas.

00:55:59.000 You're not in the odds-making business, right?

00:56:02.000 Almost.

00:56:03.000 Yeah, you're in the truth-seeking and truth-contesting.

00:56:08.000 God will figure out who wins or not.

00:56:09.000 That's not an excuse for anyone's inaction.

00:56:12.000 So, what do you do?

00:56:13.000 You post about it, you research about it, you organize about it, you write about it, you pray about it.

00:56:18.000 That's a real thing.

00:56:19.000 It's not just something that we should put under the rug because I believe supernatural intervention is a real thing that could happen at this moment, where you just pray for two people by name, Kirsten Sinema and Joe Manchin.

00:56:30.000 Pray that they will hold the line and not repeal the filibuster.

00:56:32.000 And so, because I'm not getting too technical, that's really where this debate is going to come up into.

00:56:37.000 So, it's a consequence of losing elections.

00:56:40.000 And that's what I can get into why that happened and how that happened.

00:56:44.000 There's all sorts of different, yeah, it's probably a better way to word it.

00:56:48.000 It's a consequence of them being in power.

00:56:50.000 Let me word it that way.

00:56:51.000 And that's probably the better way to word it.

00:56:54.000 I also think we could have done some things better and differently.

00:56:56.000 Happy to submit my diagnostic report there.

00:57:00.000 But I hope that's somewhat helpful.

00:57:01.000 But HR1, HR5, boy, if those things pass, which I think is unlikely at this moment, we're going to be in a lot of trouble.

00:57:08.000 And now, SR1 and SR5 because they're in a Senate.

00:57:12.000 And so when you talk about them, that's what you want to be clear on.

00:57:16.000 You want to go in the middle?

00:57:17.000 Oh, yeah.

00:57:17.000 No, there we go.

00:57:18.000 USA Olympics.

00:57:19.000 All right.

00:57:20.000 Boo to China.

00:57:22.000 Yeah.

00:57:26.000 So I believe that the biggest corporate danger to America today is colleges.

00:57:30.000 I believe that they are indoctrinating the young. 1.00

00:57:33.000 70% of people go to college, and if you don't go to college, you're called stupid. 0.99

00:57:38.000 What do you think is a good alternative to college? 0.99

00:57:40.000 Do you think it's trade school?

00:57:41.000 Although I've seen, I've been researching trade schools.

00:57:44.000 It looks like they're going more the direction college has.

00:57:47.000 What do you think is a good alternative to that?

00:57:49.000 Yeah, it's a really, really good question.

00:57:50.000 It kind of piggybacks off my earlier comments.

00:57:53.000 And I don't want to contradict what you said, which is really important, which is if you have a specific purpose to go to college and get a skill, then you should go.

00:58:02.000 I think that young men in particular should take a gap year.

00:58:04.000 I'm a big believer in that.

00:58:06.000 Look, we do everything.

00:58:07.000 We're doing everything backwards when it comes to education.

00:58:09.000 And it's been written for the wrong reasons.

00:58:13.000 When you're 18, you have the most aspiration, hopefully, most energy, and the most idealism.

00:58:18.000 So we do the exact opposite of what we should do.

00:58:20.000 We go put you in an environment that suffocates that aspiration, that energy, and that idealism, and basically says, we're going to go teach you evangelistic nihilism.

00:58:31.000 So the right answer might be, go find something you're really good at.

00:58:36.000 Go find someone who's succeeded at that and go ask them to go work for them.

00:58:41.000 This idea that you need a college degree to get a job is a mythology.

00:58:45.000 It's not true.

00:58:46.000 It's not true at our organization.

00:58:48.000 It's not true by most mid-level people.

00:58:49.000 Fortune 100 companies, maybe.

00:58:51.000 You'll be surprised, though.

00:58:52.000 That's starting to change.

00:58:54.000 Just go ask for a job.

00:58:55.000 Go find someone in this church that runs a company and say, I will do anything.

00:58:59.000 And by the way, you might live at your parents' house for a year, a year and a half.

00:59:02.000 It's completely opposite of what people might tell you.

00:59:04.000 They'll say, oh, you have to go through all these different steps.

00:59:06.000 Okay, that's fine.

00:59:07.000 Maybe.

00:59:08.000 Maybe that's not the right choice.

00:59:09.000 But the other thing is this.

00:59:11.000 If you find something you're good at, the passion will follow.

00:59:14.000 This idea of follow your passion is a bunch of nonsense. 0.95

00:59:17.000 It's also unbiblical.

00:59:19.000 It says very clearly not to follow your heart many times in the scriptures.

00:59:23.000 Many times.

00:59:24.000 This idea, I'm going to go follow my passion so I can go be a postmodernist artist.

00:59:30.000 Okay.

00:59:31.000 You'll be serving me Starbucks in about a decade.

00:59:34.000 We'll go really well. 0.95

00:59:35.000 Bunch of nonsense. 0.83

00:59:37.000 Artistic coffees, though. 0.96

00:59:39.000 Exactly.

00:59:39.000 Every person here has a skill.

00:59:41.000 Everyone.

00:59:42.000 People's eyes light up. 0.80

00:59:44.000 Young people all the time.

00:59:44.000 I say, what are you good at?

00:59:45.000 No one's ever asked them that question.

00:59:47.000 These guidance counselors say, what do you want to do? 1.00

00:59:49.000 What a dumb question. 0.99

00:59:50.000 I don't know what they want to do. 1.00

00:59:51.000 They're 18 years old.

00:59:52.000 I didn't know what I wanted to do.

00:59:54.000 Instead, I was good at speaking.

00:59:55.000 That's what I was good at.

00:59:56.000 I loved it.

00:59:57.000 So then I kind of built a whole thing around it.

00:59:59.000 So find what you're good at.

01:00:01.000 Skill.

01:00:01.000 You might say, well, I don't like my skill.

01:00:04.000 That's probably not totally true.

01:00:06.000 Because once you start to get up the proficiency ladder, you'll find a way to do it.

01:00:10.000 That's the right question to ask a young person.

01:00:12.000 What are you good at?

01:00:14.000 Go follow that.

01:00:15.000 The passion thing has screwed everything up.

01:00:17.000 Eventually, the passion will come.

01:00:18.000 Trust me, it will.

01:00:21.000 If I followed my passion, it would have been miserable.

01:00:24.000 I would have gone into basketball or whatever.

01:00:26.000 Like, that's my real passion.

01:00:27.000 By the way, did Gonzago win?

01:00:29.000 Because I see that.

01:00:29.000 No, no good.

01:00:33.000 I don't know.

01:00:34.000 Not good?

01:00:36.000 Okay, I'm sorry.

01:00:37.000 I don't know.

01:00:37.000 See, that's where I'm kind of in two places.

01:00:40.000 Final thing they'll say is this.

01:00:42.000 The final thing I'll say is this: make a commitment that you'll work harder than the next person, the person next to you.

01:00:48.000 It's that simple.

01:00:50.000 If you are pathological about how hard you work, you could succeed at anything.

01:00:56.000 It's the hardest attribute I could find in the world.

01:00:59.000 You know, I think along the line of what he was saying about taking a year off, not taking a year off to sleep in.

01:01:06.000 Really, I mean, kids nowadays, they think that somehow they need to sleep till 11 and then maybe get a shower and then go play games for a while.

01:01:15.000 And then I'm going to look online to see if I can find a job.

01:01:18.000 I mean, if you're not seriously pursuing it, it's not going to come to you sitting on the couch playing Nintendo or whatever kids play nowadays.

01:01:27.000 So it's really, if you're going to take the year off, be serious about it and really start researching what you're good at.

01:01:36.000 I mean, we have more information at our fingertips than ever in history.

01:01:40.000 When I was in high school, I didn't have the internet to go to.

01:01:44.000 I guess I'm that old.

01:01:45.000 I couldn't go Google anything because Google didn't exist as a company.

01:01:51.000 But nowadays, you guys have the ability to research everything.

01:01:54.000 And sadly, because there's so much data, all these kids are super wide on knowledge, but no depth.

01:02:02.000 But find that thing that really go, oh, I understand that, and dig deep into that.

01:02:07.000 And let me add one other thing for parents out there.

01:02:10.000 You need to create way more pressure for your kids. 1.00

01:02:13.000 You need to put them in a pressure cooker.

01:02:15.000 It was the best thing my parents ever did.

01:02:16.000 My parents said, you're paying for college yourself.

01:02:18.000 Good luck.

01:02:21.000 You guys doing that?

01:02:22.000 Yeah.

01:02:22.000 Good.

01:02:24.000 Make them borrow the money.

01:02:25.000 Make them figure it out.

01:02:26.000 Say, good luck.

01:02:30.000 Some parents are saying, what?

01:02:32.000 What?

01:02:35.000 Charlie, a two-part question.

01:02:37.000 If you had five minutes with President Trump, what advice would you give him?

01:02:42.000 Number one.

01:02:43.000 Number two, would you tell him 2024, please?

01:02:48.000 Well, I do know him quite well.

01:02:50.000 And so, and I did talk to him.

01:02:54.000 If he decides to run, we'll see what happens.

01:02:56.000 And I think it's too early.

01:02:57.000 I think we need him out there now.

01:02:58.000 That was the last time I talked to him.

01:03:01.000 And so, yeah, I met with him recently.

01:03:07.000 I said, look, we're getting killed out here, man. 0.78

01:03:08.000 Like, just please, can you just distract these maniacs for like a week? 0.95

01:03:13.000 Please.

01:03:14.000 You know what I mean?

01:03:15.000 Like, can you just go do a big event and just like have them stop, start talking about you?

01:03:20.000 So, I can, you know what I mean?

01:03:21.000 Like, it's a little bit of like a little bit of a smokescreen thing.

01:03:24.000 But the point is that I get that he's a little, I don't think he's tired.

01:03:30.000 I don't think that.

01:03:31.000 I just think that he's maybe just done with it because he feels like he was burned.

01:03:35.000 We're still here, and I'm going to see him soon.

01:03:38.000 I'm going to say, look, start doing rallies, start giving, start elevating the good guys, right?

01:03:44.000 Start getting back out there.

01:03:48.000 Start champion.

01:03:50.000 It's less about 2024, I'll figure itself out.

01:03:52.000 Start champion really good causes, people that are contesting for truth.

01:03:57.000 Use your platform out there.

01:04:00.000 He says he's going to do a lot of different things.

01:04:02.000 These legislative fights are happening now, right?

01:04:05.000 And so I would just be, I would really be upset, quite honestly.

01:04:09.000 And he's a friend of mine.

01:04:10.000 I wrote a whole book about it if all of a sudden these things all get passed into law and he didn't do like any public displays of support.

01:04:16.000 I don't think that's going to happen.

01:04:18.000 So my advice to him and pray for this is that he's going to get into an active position because we need him right now.

01:04:24.000 Yeah.

01:04:26.000 He's actually talking about doing rallies already.

01:04:28.000 So I think he's listening to you.

01:04:30.000 Well, we need him.

01:04:31.000 And a lot of people are probably saying that too.

01:04:33.000 So, and let me also say this: if the church decides, as it traditionally does, to take the next election off and then get active in 2024, we're done.

01:04:46.000 We can't let take 2022 off.

01:04:50.000 We have huge, huge things happening in 2022.

01:04:56.000 And right now, the church should be involved in dealing with getting laws in place, like in Georgia, to deal with election fraud.

01:05:04.000 Because we don't stand a chance if we don't deal with that first.

01:05:08.000 I don't think anybody should run for office until we deal with election law.

01:05:11.000 Period.

01:05:12.000 You don't have a chance.

01:05:13.000 So, where are we going?

01:05:15.000 Over here.

01:05:16.000 I like that shirt.

01:05:17.000 It's a turning point shirt.

01:05:19.000 Her daughter is turning point. 0.98

01:05:21.000 That's with the hole in the mic right there. 1.00

01:05:23.000 Awesome.

01:05:25.000 Charlie, first, I wanted to thank you so much for the encouragement that you gave the entire nation right after the election when it was stolen.

01:05:37.000 Thank you.

01:05:38.000 Thank you for that.

01:05:40.000 I homeschool and I still have three kids at home.

01:05:44.000 And I am always, well, I listen to you daily.

01:05:49.000 Thank you.

01:05:49.000 And I'm just amazed at the stuff that you know.

01:05:54.000 And I just would like you to share with me maybe some things that you would encourage me to pour into my kids.

01:06:05.000 Maybe who was your biggest influencer?

01:06:08.000 Maybe what was your favorite book?

01:06:12.000 Yeah, thank you.

01:06:13.000 Well, first of all, thank you for listening.

01:06:16.000 And that really means a lot.

01:06:18.000 It really touches me.

01:06:19.000 Thank you.

01:06:20.000 So, yeah, something I've taken more seriously in recent years, especially as we did the podcast and the radio show.

01:06:27.000 And I encourage all of you, people say, what do I do?

01:06:30.000 What do I do?

01:06:31.000 One of the action points is I think that we got to learn more.

01:06:35.000 We got to get deeper into these ideas.

01:06:37.000 You got to know your Washington from your Madison, your Hamilton from your Jefferson.

01:06:41.000 You got to know the Federalist Papers, the Declaration, the Magna Carta, the Mayflower Compact.

01:06:45.000 Now, if it's intimidating for you, that's okay.

01:06:47.000 It was for me too.

01:06:48.000 But I took it very seriously.

01:06:49.000 And I said, you know what?

01:06:51.000 God's given me this platform.

01:06:52.000 I got to know this stuff really well for no other reason than if people are trusting me with a platform, then I have to become a subject matter expert on it.

01:06:59.000 So two hours a day, no phone, I learn.

01:07:04.000 It's like on my schedule.

01:07:05.000 It's on my agenda.

01:07:05.000 I open up my laptop and I'll take a Hillsdale online course.

01:07:09.000 Or I'll go watch a great lecture or read a great book.

01:07:12.000 I learn the best when someone is talking.

01:07:14.000 It's just how I learn the best.

01:07:15.000 Some of you might be more, you know, of a reading.

01:07:17.000 Reading puts me to sleep.

01:07:18.000 Literally, I read before I go to sleep.

01:07:20.000 Everyone's different, though, right?

01:07:21.000 For some people, maybe that's stimulating.

01:07:22.000 And so I tell people, you're not going to be able to probably do two hours because that's literally my job, right?

01:07:26.000 I factor it in because then I'm able to do radio shows and podcasts that hopefully are able to be action-oriented and true.

01:07:33.000 I think that if every single person watching this and here right now and listening to the podcast, because we're going to, with your permission, repost this as a podcast.

01:07:40.000 Absolutely.

01:07:42.000 If everyone here said, you know what?

01:07:44.000 I'm going to take 20 minutes a day and either listen to my show or I'm going to learn something new.

01:07:49.000 And you keep a diary of what you learned every single day.

01:07:54.000 One new thing every day.

01:07:56.000 That's what I do.

01:07:57.000 I try to make it 10 things and I don't remember them all.

01:08:00.000 I don't.

01:08:01.000 But I remember about 40% of it.

01:08:03.000 So then I'm 40% smarter a year from today.

01:08:05.000 That's a pretty good thing, right?

01:08:06.000 That's awful.

01:08:07.000 If you do that over a decade, you're 400% smarter.

01:08:10.000 Right.

01:08:10.000 And all of a sudden, and then you might forget some things that you got to redo the notes, but then you'll relearn it quicker.

01:08:15.000 And so, look, it says in Isaiah, I think Isaiah 1, let us reason together, right?

01:08:21.000 If I'm not mistaken.

01:08:23.000 That we have to become subject matter experts on it.

01:08:25.000 And here's the amazing thing that happens, everybody.

01:08:27.000 I'm telling you, as soon as you go read the Federalist Papers, all of a sudden you're like, oh, that's what we do.

01:08:33.000 Whatever that is, it'll come to you.

01:08:35.000 To know the road ahead, ask those coming back.

01:08:38.000 Go, if you dive into these great works.

01:08:40.000 And so to answer specifically, Aristotle's book on politics and ethics is unbelievable.

01:08:45.000 It's not that hard to read.

01:08:46.000 It isn't.

01:08:47.000 Meditations by Marcus Aurelius is absolutely terrific.

01:08:50.000 Anything by the Federalist Papers, anything written by Jefferson and Madison in particular, and then understanding the ideas that went into the Declaration.

01:09:00.000 Let's just stop there.

01:09:01.000 And then, if I had to just say the one, if you said, Charlie, a magic wand, if every politician could know this, if every politician could just know the laws of economics, our country would be in a phenomenally better place.

01:09:12.000 Not Keynesian, though.

01:09:13.000 No, no, not Keynesians, not the laws.

01:09:15.000 That's like, that's heresy.

01:09:17.000 Keynesian economics.

01:09:19.000 It's just very simple.

01:09:20.000 What are markets?

01:09:21.000 What is private property?

01:09:22.000 What is voluntary exchange?

01:09:24.000 What is a border?

01:09:25.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:09:26.000 Supply and demand.

01:09:28.000 Like, super simple stuff.

01:09:29.000 So I, and then, so there's a great book for this.

01:09:31.000 If you guys want to write it down, it's called Economics in One Lesson.

01:09:33.000 It's by Henry Hazlitt.

01:09:35.000 Super easy.

01:09:37.000 Every person in the country should be required to read this.

01:09:40.000 It would be a better place.

01:09:41.000 Economics in one lesson.

01:09:42.000 So thank you.

01:09:43.000 Gold.

01:09:44.000 All right.

01:09:44.000 Let's come in the middle here.

01:09:45.000 Yeah.

01:09:45.000 Hi.

01:09:46.000 I just first want to say, God bless you for everything you and your team do.

01:09:50.000 I mean, you guys are a breath of fresh air.

01:09:53.000 It's so nice.

01:09:54.000 My question is, and I've been watching your, I've been watching and listening to you for quite a while.

01:10:01.000 Thank you.

01:10:02.000 And I love when you're on the college campuses.

01:10:05.000 Like, I love it.

01:10:06.000 I even laugh my head off and everything.

01:10:08.000 But my question is, and I've been dying to ask, is what in the world goes on in your head when the other person's going crazy?

01:10:19.000 And you're so methodical in your thinking.

01:10:22.000 I mean, is it because you're so analytical?

01:10:25.000 You're so calm.

01:10:26.000 Thank you.

01:10:26.000 I mean, I've been called the racist so many times.

01:10:29.000 I've seen you not calm a few times.

01:10:31.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:10:33.000 I've lost my pool before.

01:10:35.000 I have.

01:10:37.000 So it's no different than when you see someone at the top of their game, I'm not saying at the top of the game, in athletics, all of a sudden do something with precision.

01:10:50.000 It came with 40,000 hours of practice.

01:10:53.000 So I do two hours of radio, two hours of learning a day.

01:10:57.000 I've done that for nine, about five and a half years, really seriously.

01:11:00.000 I speak over 330 times a year.

01:11:03.000 Wow.

01:11:04.000 330 times a year.

01:11:05.000 Outside of that, right?

01:11:07.000 Almost every single day.

01:11:08.000 And so then I also go through simulations of keeping myself composed, keep myself, and I know their literature.

01:11:15.000 I know what they're going to say almost before they say it, right?

01:11:17.000 And I mess up plenty.

01:11:19.000 Trust me, you could find plenty of clips online where I look less than desirable.

01:11:23.000 Those thankfully have been diminishing, and the ones that I say true things are increasing.

01:11:28.000 We're all human beings, right?

01:11:30.000 We all mess up.

01:11:31.000 But then I also learn from them.

01:11:32.000 And so this is something I learned early on, though, and I made a conscious decision to get better at it.

01:11:37.000 And actually, it's not my nature.

01:11:39.000 It's actually I've had to repress my nature and retrain myself, which is to have the lower heart rate than the person you're communicating with.

01:11:46.000 It's not my nature.

01:11:47.000 It's not.

01:11:47.000 It's not who I am.

01:11:49.000 It's actually I've had to retrain myself biochemically.

01:11:52.000 And there's moments where I just, you know.

01:11:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:11:57.000 So, but they're rarer and rare, and hopefully I'll be able to eliminate them where I realize that style can matter a lot more than substance.

01:12:05.000 That people are going to be won over whether or not you're able to stay in control, stay factual, stay precise, and not scream and yell and do all these different things.

01:12:14.000 You might be saying things that are 100% true, but you're just making a whole scene out of it, and you might lose.

01:12:19.000 But I appreciate the compliment, but I want to just tell you anyone can have that sort of whatever self-control that you might believe is communicated.

01:12:27.000 I'm going to use that as an opportunity for a shameless plug, which is if you guys are not yet subscribed to our podcast and you guys want it, you're hearing about it, we do two podcasts a day.

01:12:37.000 And every single phone that you guys have has a podcast app in there.

01:12:41.000 This is one of the ways that we can prevent ourselves from being canceled.

01:12:44.000 If every person typed in the Charlie Kirk show to your podcast app and hit subscribe tonight, we beat the New York Times and the podcast charts by tomorrow morning.

01:12:52.000 So if you guys could do it, it would really help us out.

01:12:55.000 And if you don't know, you're like, how do we do that?

01:12:57.000 How old are you?

01:12:57.000 Like nine?

01:12:58.000 Ask him.

01:12:59.000 So I think you have to.

01:13:02.000 No, you're eight, right?

01:13:04.000 Eleven.

01:13:06.000 Isaac, how old are you?

01:13:08.000 I don't.

01:13:09.000 13.

01:13:10.000 Man.

01:13:11.000 Don't guess ages. 0.98

01:13:12.000 That's like asking a woman if she's pregnant at the door.

01:13:15.000 You never do that. 0.73

01:13:16.000 My wife told me, never ask a woman if she's pregnant.

01:13:20.000 Because if she's not, wow, you are in so much trouble. 1.00

01:13:25.000 All right, we are, we need to start rounding up, so we got a couple more.

01:13:29.000 I'm happy to stay for a couple more.

01:13:30.000 Okay, good, good, good.

01:13:32.000 How can we, as a multiracial band that's touring the U.S., trying to bring this nation back under God, get woke people to wake up, and can we become ambassadors of Turning Point Faith?

01:13:43.000 Yes.

01:13:44.000 Well, first of all, I love the work you guys do.

01:13:46.000 It is awesome.

01:13:47.000 And you helped my friend Mike McClure when he needed your help.

01:13:50.000 So God bless you.

01:13:51.000 You are a hero in my book.

01:13:53.000 And so Mike McClure opened his church, Calvary Chapel, San Jose.

01:13:59.000 We're actually going to event here later this week.

01:14:02.000 And he's facing $2.5 million in fines.

01:14:04.000 And you guys were there to help him.

01:14:05.000 Not everyone was.

01:14:06.000 So you guys deserve to be commended for that.

01:14:08.000 And he's a friend of mine.

01:14:09.000 He's terrific.

01:14:10.000 He's another Calvary guy.

01:14:12.000 So what can you do?

01:14:13.000 First of all, your question is so great because sometimes when you're trying to win over the woke, it's a very frustrating exercise.

01:14:22.000 Try your best to make sure that the conversation from their perspective is not them acute.

01:14:31.000 They understand that your intentions are correct.

01:14:34.000 This is a very important thing.

01:14:36.000 That I'm sure all of you have dealt in arguments in one way or the other.

01:14:40.000 That they immediately say, you're a bad person.

01:14:44.000 You don't mean well.

01:14:45.000 So before you even begin anything, you should say, hey, can we agree that my heart wants the right thing for this?

01:14:53.000 That's a big deal.

01:14:54.000 Because from that point forward, then you're able to have an actual conversation of how to get to that desired objective.

01:15:00.000 And so, look, I also believe that there are such obvious limitations on the woke sanity that is kind of plaguing our country, right?

01:15:12.000 And I would just own the gospel.

01:15:14.000 Paul says very clearly that it's neither slave nor Greek nor Jew.

01:15:17.000 We're all one in Jesus Christ.

01:15:19.000 The hyperfixation on skin color, I think, is really destructive.

01:15:22.000 I really do. 0.91

01:15:24.000 I think that I grew up in an America that for a moment in time, I went to a very multiracial school.

01:15:30.000 It was 53% Hispanic.

01:15:32.000 And we were told that if you care about people's skin color, you're the racist.

01:15:37.000 Now we're told that if you don't care about people's skin color, that you're somehow the racist.

01:15:41.000 And the high school I went to, actually, things really worked.

01:15:45.000 And I'm not saying that anyone for any moment, that there's not hatred and there's not division, all these sorts of things.

01:15:51.000 I actually think there's a supply and demand problem with racism in our country.

01:15:54.000 I think that there's such a low supply of racists and such a high demand that anytime you find when it makes national news, I think we're the least racist country ever to exist in the history of the world.

01:16:06.000 I think that we are so decent to each other that we don't give ourselves credit considering the backgrounds and the races that people come from.

01:16:12.000 So the advice I have for you is live out the gospel every single day, no matter what people call you with love and compassion and grace and mercy.

01:16:19.000 But 100% truth, never waver.

01:16:22.000 Do it with a smile.

01:16:23.000 Be that kind of happy, cheerful that I know your entire group is.

01:16:26.000 But I could tell you this, that most people that believe in the woke sanity, deep down, they actually want to do well.

01:16:32.000 They really do.

01:16:34.000 They just think that they're doing well through this complete and total utter nonsense.

01:16:39.000 And then I'll say, hey, you can break free from this.

01:16:43.000 And the gospel actually runs up against it.

01:16:46.000 So I hope that's somewhat helpful.

01:16:47.000 And thank you for your kind words.

01:16:48.000 I deeply appreciate that.

01:16:49.000 Thank you.

01:16:51.000 So now this next question is real important because it comes from our youth pastor, Jacob.

01:16:54.000 Wonderful.

01:16:56.000 It's not my question.

01:16:58.000 Just from one of the youths that checks it out.

01:17:00.000 It says, what do you have to say about Christian nationalism?

01:17:03.000 And is it something Christians should actively be trying to combat against?

01:17:07.000 Yeah, I got this question.

01:17:08.000 I would need someone to define it exactly what that is.

01:17:13.000 Yeah, I'm just kind of, it's kind of a leftist term.

01:17:18.000 You know, I don't really know Christians that call themselves Christian nationalists.

01:17:22.000 So I'm kind of perplexed by it.

01:17:24.000 I think what they're trying to say is, and again, I'm just conjecturing here because there was a whole New York Times piece on this the other day, is Christians that try to merge their belief in God and the gospel with their love of their country.

01:17:40.000 And I love America because I love my God.

01:17:45.000 And I'm a Christian first, then I'm a patriot in American, then a conservative in that order, and it's always that order.

01:17:52.000 And America's a unique country because we have a trinity just like the Christian trinity.

01:17:58.000 It's liberty in God we trust, and e pluribus unum.

01:18:01.000 All three of those are biblical values and virtues.

01:18:04.000 We have Moses staring at the speaker of the house.

01:18:07.000 I just wish Nancy Pelosi would look.

01:18:09.000 If you go into the House of Representatives, the administer of the law.

01:18:13.000 The idea of the three branches of government comes directly out of Isaiah.

01:18:17.000 And so I'm not going to apologize for being an American patriot.

01:18:20.000 I'm not saying that my love for my country in any way usurps my love of Jesus by any means.

01:18:27.000 But I also, I'm not going to apologize for a nation that's been a moral good inspired by the teachings of the Bible and has been more benevolent, more generous, more creative, more productive, more forward-thinking, and more open-minded than any other nation ever to exist in the history of the world.

01:18:42.000 I'm not going to apologize for that.

01:18:43.000 And insofar that I see the mission to bring people to Jesus and eternal life, I actually think it's made possible and easier thanks to open societies like the United States of America.

01:18:57.000 So I think I would just need someone to define it because I think that it's kind of a fear-mongering tactic where no one actually is like, yeah, I'm a Christian nationalist.

01:19:06.000 I don't really understand that.

01:19:08.000 So I don't, you know what I mean?

01:19:09.000 Like I'm just trying to build out what I think they're trying to.

01:19:12.000 And I think what they're trying to say is this: there's a dangerous trend of pastors that are speaking out morally, and that might be a threat to our power.

01:19:20.000 So we're going to try to demonize it.

01:19:22.000 And I reject that completely categorically and totally.

01:19:26.000 And so let me just say again that pastors founded this country.

01:19:30.000 The church founded this country.

01:19:32.000 It is unmistakable.

01:19:34.000 And the church will either decide to save this country or forsake this country.

01:19:38.000 It's that simple.

01:19:39.000 That's the nexus point that we're at.

01:19:40.000 Thank you.

01:19:41.000 I appreciate that.

01:19:42.000 Yeah.

01:19:42.000 And the reality is, as Christians, we're called to be nationalists and globalists.

01:19:50.000 The problem with nationalism is when you're nationalist at the expense of being globalist, then you miss the whole point.

01:19:56.000 You know, we are called to be good citizens.

01:19:58.000 Period.

01:19:59.000 We're called to impact our society.

01:20:02.000 We're called to honor Caesar.

01:20:03.000 We're called to submit to authorities as long as they're not calling us to disobey the Lord.

01:20:10.000 But at the same time, Jesus said, go and make disciples of Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, and the uttermost parts of the earth.

01:20:18.000 And the problem is the church has lost sight of the mission we've been given.

01:20:24.000 And that is, hey, while we are to give our all to our nation as good citizens, we're not to neglect our greater call.

01:20:31.000 And so anything you call nationalist, I get concerned about because now you're saying, hey, let's make an ism out of it.

01:20:37.000 And the second you start making an ism out of it, we have a problem.

01:20:40.000 Yeah, and let me say one other thing, which is the most important thing you can give your life is your life to Jesus Christ.

01:20:45.000 The second most important thing is to make sure you could do the first thing.

01:20:49.000 And that's why I'm also involved in this fight, which is when you shut down the church, you allow abortion factories to stay open, and most of the rest of the world right now is getting less religiously tolerant, not more religiously tolerant.

01:21:03.000 I'm going to care about the second thing or else we're going to be sharing the gospel from prison.

01:21:07.000 And that's the pattern of despots, tyrants, and dictators.

01:21:10.000 And so I completely agree that if you make it into kind of an idol or something, that it's a problem.

01:21:16.000 But I also think it's kind of a fear-mongering tactic by the left to try to suppress political involvement on behalf of Christians for sure.

01:21:21.000 Absolutely.

01:21:22.000 Absolutely.

01:21:23.000 Right here? 0.98

01:21:25.000 First of all, I just want to thank you for pushing forward that abortion is a sin.

01:21:32.000 That is incredible, especially in today's.

01:21:34.000 Yeah, let's give them a round of applause for that one.

01:21:36.000 Thank you.

01:21:41.000 That being said, you know, you mentioned the Bible and scripture a lot, which I love.

01:21:47.000 But do you believe that with your influence and Turning Point USA that you should push forward the idea of traditional marriage, restrictions on the access of pornography for minors, and a whole host of other social issues that the Bible is very clear on?

01:22:05.000 So I wanted to hear your position on these issues and whether or not you believe we should elect representatives that will act in favor of absolutely, yeah.

01:22:13.000 And I've talked about it often. 0.80

01:22:14.000 I believe marriage is one man, one woman, uncompromised. 0.93

01:22:17.000 I've said it once and I'll say it again.

01:22:19.000 And I think marriage is a covenant in front of the Lord, and we must take that very seriously.

01:22:26.000 For the other issue, absolutely.

01:22:28.000 I think that there's this kind of this, it's really interesting, the free speech issue when it comes to pornography.

01:22:33.000 That's the only time the left decides to all of a sudden love free speech.

01:22:37.000 Isn't that interesting?

01:22:38.000 It's like, oh, yeah, we're going to become ambassadors for like the worst thing imaginable.

01:22:41.000 But if you dare have a live stream or you preach the gospel, you're hate speech.

01:22:45.000 Really?

01:22:46.000 So, yeah, if you would have asked me like 10 years ago, I probably would have been like more libertarian on it.

01:22:52.000 But I think it is so horrific and the external consequence of what's happening, and it's predatory in nature for the people involved.

01:22:58.000 So I've talked about that before.

01:22:59.000 I've done entire speeches on it.

01:23:01.000 So I appreciate that.

01:23:02.000 But yeah, look, I think that we as Christians must be clear that what's happening in our country right now with young people in particular is that they are being told this lie of self-indulgence and almost nihilism.

01:23:18.000 And it really is nihilism at its core.

01:23:22.000 And we have the truth, and it's actually this amazing, it's contrary to what people might think, and I tell this to youth pastors all the time, which is what's in the hall of the Harvard Law School.

01:23:33.000 It is the greatest, most, on its face, contradicting statement, but biblically true statement.

01:23:39.000 The law are the wise restraints that keep you free.

01:23:45.000 What?

01:23:46.000 You're trying to tell me restraints keep me free?

01:23:50.000 Anyone who has lived outside of a college campus knows this is true.

01:23:54.000 Anyone.

01:23:55.000 That what you don't do actually makes you more free.

01:23:59.000 Think about that.

01:23:59.000 That's the opposite, isn't it?

01:24:01.000 Is that you would say, because the world says, no, no, no, it's more, it's another, and it's bigger.

01:24:07.000 Or it's one more dopamine rush or one more thing.

01:24:10.000 When in reality, it's like, no, you're actually going to be a slave to that further and further and further.

01:24:15.000 And so I speak out at it a lot.

01:24:17.000 Actually, I gave an entire speech in Cleveland on that.

01:24:20.000 You can check out the podcast.

01:24:21.000 So I appreciate that very much.

01:24:22.000 Thank you.

01:24:24.000 Good question.

01:24:27.000 I feel the need to tell you that I actually talked my daughter into dropping out of college.

01:24:31.000 Dorothy's actually looking at her hands and she's loving it.

01:24:34.000 Great.

01:24:37.000 And I'm also part of a prayer ministry where I send on a long prayer to a bunch of people.

01:24:43.000 And the lady who heads it up said, when I told her, I was come to see you today.

01:24:46.000 She goes, ask him what he wants us to pray for.

01:24:48.000 You've already hit up on a couple things.

01:24:51.000 And then the guy in front of me staged me up and asked you to pray.

01:24:54.000 But is there anything else that you can tell us that you think we need to be praying for?

01:25:01.000 We need to pray for courage for believers.

01:25:05.000 And we also need to pray for wisdom, as I keep on using that word because we're lacking it so sorely right now, so miserably, I should say.

01:25:14.000 And so those are the things we should be praying for.

01:25:16.000 And then pray for a supernatural event because I believe we do serve a supernatural God.

01:25:21.000 And we could use a miracle or two right now.

01:25:24.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:25:25.000 Absolutely.

01:25:26.000 Thank you.

01:25:28.000 Hi, I also have a question from one of the youths.

01:25:31.000 Okay.

01:25:32.000 And they asked, how do you respond to the claim that pro-lifers can only be pro-life?

01:25:36.000 They also condemn the death penalty.

01:25:38.000 Yes, it's a great question.

01:25:41.000 So, first of all, usually if you get, let me actually tell you my position on the death penalty, which is a little more nuanced than it used to be.

01:25:49.000 First of all, if you're getting the death penalty, you probably did something convicted by the jury of your peers, a little bit different than someone who's in the womb that's all of a sudden getting a punishment that they didn't deserve.

01:26:02.000 So there's a huge difference of it.

01:26:03.000 But I actually tend to not be in favor of the death penalty for a different reason, just because of how many innocent people have been killed by using the death penalty.

01:26:11.000 I actually have stopped.

01:26:13.000 Dennis Prager and I went back and forth on this for years.

01:26:16.000 And he made the best point.

01:26:20.000 And there's a great, for all you young people out there, write this in your journal and look at it every day.

01:26:24.000 A wise man is happily and easily corrected every day.

01:26:27.000 Write that.

01:26:28.000 That should be your mission statement every day you go to school, okay?

01:26:30.000 And so I was talking to Dennis Prager, and he made the, you go back and forth on this stuff.

01:26:34.000 You guys know Dennis, he's the best.

01:26:36.000 And he's very pro-death penalty, very.

01:26:39.000 And he said, Charlie, if on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, a dictator came out and said, if you kill on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, you don't get the death penalty.

01:26:50.000 Do you think there'd be more murders on those days?

01:26:53.000 And I said, that is a good point.

01:26:55.000 It's a really good point.

01:26:57.000 Of course, there would be.

01:26:58.000 Of course.

01:26:58.000 And so you could make the deterrent argument, the moral argument, and all that.

01:27:02.000 Let me say this: I don't like the death penalty from the case that too many innocent people have been killed using the death penalty.

01:27:07.000 That's the one there.

01:27:08.000 Dennis agrees.

01:27:09.000 That's the best argument against the death penalty. 0.59

01:27:11.000 I also, though, will push back categorically, though, that all of a sudden we have to have these swan song sympathies for rapists and mass murderers in our country, and we can't have the same sympathy for a baby who's in the womb.

01:27:22.000 Like, you have these massive, well-funded organizations that go and like advocate for the Boston bomber to stay alive.

01:27:28.000 Like, sort of indifferent about that, to be honest with you.

01:27:30.000 I hope he finds Jesus.

01:27:32.000 I hope he finds his soul. 1.00

01:27:33.000 You went and killed innocents, okay? 0.99

01:27:35.000 I'm actually going to go contest for actual innocence.

01:27:38.000 This idea that we have to have a moral equivalency between a child in the womb that has done nothing wrong, literally no agency upon themselves, upon themselves, that is the ultimate of like non-agency human being because they're completely stationary and dependent on their mother versus someone who just like Eric Rudolph, who did the Centennial Park bombing.

01:27:57.000 Like, sort of a moral difference there, right?

01:28:00.000 And so, I get the spirit of the question.

01:28:02.000 I get it asked all the time, and I just kind of tell people, just think a little bit logically about why someone could support one, not the other.

01:28:09.000 I happen to be someone who's opposed to the death penalty just because I've done the research and we've executed 33 innocent people in the last couple decades in our country.

01:28:18.000 That's 33 too many.

01:28:19.000 I think that is an ultimate evil administered by the state.

01:28:22.000 And it's not a moral claim.

01:28:24.000 It's a practical claim that if we even get one wrong, that's enough for us to take a pause, right?

01:28:29.000 Where all of a sudden we're like, we're bringing a man or a woman who didn't actually do it to a punishment they didn't deserve.

01:28:34.000 That for me is like, okay, if we can't even figure it out, absent admission, right?

01:28:40.000 Then, like, Charles Manson actually ended up not getting the death penalty.

01:28:43.000 And I'll just close and reiterate a point.

01:28:45.000 It's so telling that the energy on the left is trying to always sue and put forth court filings on the scum of the earth, and I don't use that lightly, that do absolute evil, and they're indifferent and yet supportive of the massacring of the innocent.

01:29:04.000 I just think that's a very telling point.

01:29:06.000 All right, last question.

01:29:10.000 We'll hold on to the mic.

01:29:12.000 Sorry.

01:29:13.000 I've seen some wacky things.

01:29:14.000 I apologize.

01:29:16.000 Just a basic, simple, broad question, but I think a lot of people may be curious about it too: is based upon what you've learned from the Lord, your own insight, your own foresight, where do you see the United States 10 to 15 years from now, depending upon all that's going on with the nation and so forth?

01:29:36.000 It's a great question.

01:29:37.000 Thank you.

01:29:38.000 And I'd love to expand it and get thoughts on that.

01:29:43.000 Look, it's wholly dependent on our action.

01:29:49.000 And outside of intervention from the Lord, which we always have to say is possible, I wanted to just say that it depends on what we do.

01:30:00.000 It does.

01:30:00.000 The current trajectory is bad.

01:30:03.000 It's terrible.

01:30:04.000 Brace for impact.

01:30:06.000 But it could have changed almost immediately.

01:30:08.000 And I've seen it change. 0.99

01:30:09.000 Americans are always late to the game. 0.99

01:30:12.000 Once we get involved, it's a great quote from Winston Churchill, who, by the way, if you want a young person to emulate somebody, have them emulate Winston Churchill. 1.00

01:30:19.000 He wrote 50 books, served in wars. 0.68

01:30:21.000 They're removing statues, and it's ridiculous.

01:30:23.000 He's phenomenal.

01:30:24.000 He had a great quote.

01:30:25.000 As soon as Pearl Harbor happened, he turned to his war cabinet and he said, Well, we won.

01:30:31.000 They said, What?

01:30:33.000 He said, It's over. 0.97

01:30:34.000 He said, The Americans are in.

01:30:36.000 It's done. 1.00

01:30:38.000 They said, you're nuts. 1.00

01:30:40.000 Mark my words. 1.00

01:30:41.000 As soon as they get mad, forget it.

01:30:43.000 Yeah.

01:30:44.000 It's true.

01:30:45.000 And what he was really saying is when decent, good people step up and take ownership, everything changes.

01:30:51.000 That's what he was really saying, right?

01:30:53.000 Yes.

01:30:54.000 Is that it could change like that.

01:30:56.000 Now, God forbid we need a Pearl Harbor moment to jolt us into action.

01:31:01.000 God forbid.

01:31:02.000 I say that because that is just unspeakable tragedy.

01:31:05.000 The only thing close to that would be 9-11.

01:31:07.000 I thought the virus, I was totally wrong, by the way.

01:31:10.000 The biggest prediction I was wrong.

01:31:12.000 I thought we were going to see like a revival of liberty.

01:31:14.000 Now we've seen a revival of safetyism in our country.

01:31:16.000 Like, what is going on?

01:31:17.000 I thought people were going to be like, break me free.

01:31:19.000 Instead, it's like, shelter me in place.

01:31:21.000 Right?

01:31:22.000 So that wasn't it.

01:31:23.000 Yeah.

01:31:24.000 Okay.

01:31:26.000 What is your opinion?

01:31:27.000 Do you believe that it will get better?

01:31:29.000 So that's a great question.

01:31:31.000 And I'm going to answer that because that's an important question.

01:31:34.000 What not you, but most people that ask is like, what do you think is going to happen?

01:31:39.000 They want me to give them permission to give up.

01:31:42.000 Not you, most people.

01:31:44.000 That's why they ask.

01:31:46.000 It's irrelevant.

01:31:48.000 My opinion of the probability of whether we win or not should be irrelevant to your action.

01:31:53.000 Because if you want my honest opinion, it's really bad.

01:31:56.000 It's like post-Marcus Aurelius commodus bad.

01:32:00.000 Okay?

01:32:01.000 You want the honest opinion?

01:32:02.000 Now what are you going to do?

01:32:04.000 Are you going to act differently because of that?

01:32:06.000 Amen.

01:32:06.000 Danielle?

01:32:07.000 Can I ask a question?

01:32:08.000 I've been a little bit more.

01:32:08.000 Yes.

01:32:09.000 The last, last question.

01:32:10.000 What is the invisible hand?

01:32:12.000 Okay.

01:32:12.000 The invisible hand is not biblical.

01:32:17.000 It doesn't mean it's wrong.

01:32:18.000 It's just from economics.

01:32:20.000 It's Adam Smith.

01:32:21.000 He wrote it in the Inquiry into the Cause of Wealth of Nations.

01:32:24.000 Yeah.

01:32:25.000 Okay.

01:32:25.000 Thank you.

01:32:26.000 You bet.

01:32:27.000 Okay.

01:32:27.000 Well, now finish the answer.

01:32:28.000 Yeah.

01:32:31.000 I could finish it.

01:32:33.000 Okay.

01:32:34.000 Adam Smith wrote a book in 1776: Three Things Were Written 1776: Common Sense by Thomas Paine, Declaration, Inquiry into the Cause of Wealth of Nations.

01:32:42.000 You should read all three and know them well.

01:32:43.000 They're beautiful.

01:32:44.000 What is beautiful?

01:32:45.000 That which is perfected in being.

01:32:47.000 They are beautiful documents.

01:32:48.000 And they are, they really understand God-given natural rights, all three of them in different ways.

01:32:53.000 And they kind of operate as kind of a triangle.

01:32:55.000 Adam Smith went out and he realized, oh my goodness, there's pressures, there's movements that are happening as if there was a hand that was conducting all of it in the marketplace.

01:33:05.000 Here's an example.

01:33:06.000 There's not one person that is responsible for making a pencil in this country.

01:33:10.000 There isn't.

01:33:10.000 Milton Friedman used to do this illustration.

01:33:12.000 There's a person responsible for chopping the wood, transporting the wood, milling the wood, making the metallic end of it, making the eraser, stocking it in the store shelf, making sure you can buy it, checking you at the counter.

01:33:22.000 Millions of people interacted to make one pencil.

01:33:24.000 That's the invisible hand all coming together.

01:33:27.000 And it's pretty amazing because none of these people know each other.

01:33:29.000 They speak different languages.

01:33:30.000 They're from different places.

01:33:32.000 They never actually looked at each other, and yet it all just kind of works.

01:33:35.000 That's the market.

01:33:36.000 It all just kind of falls into place.

01:33:39.000 And so Adam Smith talked about that as the invisible hand.

01:33:43.000 And for example, no one here had a picket protest riot to all of a sudden say, where's the food in the grocery store?

01:33:52.000 During the pandemic.

01:33:54.000 The invisible hand just took care of it.

01:33:56.000 The whole supply chain.

01:33:57.000 Took it for granted, right?

01:33:58.000 Only a market system could have kept us alive as plentiful, bountiful, relaxed as a market system when everything got shut down.

01:34:07.000 Except toilet paper.

01:34:08.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:34:09.000 Epic fail.

01:34:10.000 What's hilarious about that, though, is the market solved it by raising the price of toilet paper.

01:34:15.000 That's the market.

01:34:17.000 Less supply, higher demand.

01:34:20.000 That's the invisible hand.

01:34:21.000 So happy to do a lecture on that a different time.

01:34:22.000 I've done lots of podcasts on it.

01:34:24.000 Gospel in four words, Jesus took my place.

01:34:26.000 Three words, him for me.

01:34:27.000 Two words, substitutionary atonement.

01:34:30.000 One word, grace.

01:34:30.000 What is grace?

01:34:31.000 We sing about it.

01:34:32.000 We talk about it.

01:34:32.000 We pray about it.

01:34:33.000 Here's grace, mercy, justice.

01:34:35.000 I'll tell you the difference.

01:34:36.000 First, justice.

01:34:38.000 You do something wrong, you go in front of a judge, you get exactly what you deserve.

01:34:42.000 You're going to jail.

01:34:43.000 Here's mercy.

01:34:44.000 You go in front of the judge and you say, I did it.

01:34:49.000 You get less of what you deserve.

01:34:50.000 Here's grace.

01:34:51.000 You go in front of a judge and you're about to get the sentence and someone comes in and I'll serve that sentence for him.

01:34:58.000 And he walks into the jail cell for you and you can go walk free.

01:35:00.000 That's grace.

01:35:02.000 That's what Jesus is.

01:35:05.000 He was a real person.

01:35:07.000 He said real things.

01:35:08.000 He did real miracles.

01:35:10.000 He's really the Son of God.

01:35:11.000 The resurrection is real.

01:35:13.000 He died and rose from the dead.

01:35:14.000 I'm a highly rational, reasonable person.

01:35:16.000 The more you dive into the historic aspect of the resurrection, the more you realize it's a real thing that actually happened, corroborated by real witnesses and real people, with people that had nothing to gain that died at the stake to advocate for his death, burial, and resurrection.

01:35:34.000 So it's a gift for everyone to accept.

01:35:36.000 I'm sure I'm literally speaking to the choir, but sometimes it's helpful to hear.

01:35:39.000 But I'm sure if only one person hears it tonight that needs to hear it, it's worth the repetition.

01:35:43.000 If I piqued your interest at all and you say, Charlie, I want to do something.

01:35:46.000 I want to hear more from you.

01:35:48.000 The second shameless plug, please subscribe to that podcast if you can.

01:35:50.000 I know it sounds silly, but it's the only way that we stay away from cancellation from the big tyrants and oligarchs.

01:35:57.000 We've got to close the courage gap in our country.

01:36:00.000 I'm so inspired by all of you.

01:36:02.000 It's awesome.

01:36:02.000 You have a wonderful pastor here and a great church.

01:36:05.000 Stay engaged, stay involved.

01:36:07.000 God bless you guys.

01:36:09.000 Thank you.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - April 18, 2021

Ancient Wisdom from the World's Most Important Book—LIVE from Calvary Chapel Lone Mountain

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