The Charlie Kirk Show - Ann Coulter Told Vivek WHAT?

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00:02:57.000 In just a second, we'll have Vivek Ramaswamy.

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00:03:31.000 And as we wait for Vivek here, I want to play this piece of tape.

00:03:34.000 It's cut 11.

00:03:35.000 It's a little long, but it is about the effort that we are doing to chase the vote.

00:03:43.000 It is about how we are getting out into the streets to register voters, how we are going to chase ballots.

00:03:52.000 By the way, I got this text message this morning.

00:03:54.000 You ready for this?

00:03:55.000 It's an incredible text message.

00:03:56.000 to read it.

00:03:58.000 From a great Catholic friend of mine, terrific guy.

00:04:02.000 I'm not going to say his name on air, even though I don't think he would mind.

00:04:05.000 He said, Charlie, I want to send you a ballot chasing update here in Arizona.

00:04:09.000 We are following your lead.

00:04:10.000 Our organization, Catholics for Catholics, had our monthly meeting tomorrow and we're organizing in Arizona.

00:04:16.000 We have representatives in 100 parishes across Arizona to chase ballots.

00:04:21.000 I'm on a flight right now to Wisconsin to set up base for ballot chasing there.

00:04:26.000 I'm working hand in hand with Chris on your Turning Point Action team.

00:04:29.000 We'll be doing your largest breakout session in Detroit for the People's Convention, rallying Catholics there.

00:04:35.000 Just trying to show that Catholics are not just talkers, but doers as well.

00:04:39.000 Thanks for leading.

00:04:40.000 How terrific is that?

00:04:42.000 That's right there in the grassroots.

00:04:44.000 100 parishes across Arizona, all established, all set up.

00:04:49.000 And I understand there's a lot of negativity out there, but we can win this thing.

00:04:54.000 This is within the margin.

00:04:56.000 We have 100 parishes set up for Catholic ballot chasing.

00:05:00.000 We got 250 churches that are on board for ballot chasing.

00:05:03.000 What are you doing?

00:05:03.000 Download the Turning Point Action app, find one low-propensity voter that is not registered to vote, and register them to vote.

00:05:11.000 Let's play Cut 11.

00:05:13.000 We're in Menominee Falls today outdoor knocking in the rain.

00:05:16.000 We're using our app here.

00:05:17.000 She has some school board and village board signs in her yard, but she is a low-prop voter.

00:05:21.000 We're going to go find out why she hasn't voted in the last few elections.

00:05:24.000 Come on.

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00:05:39.000 Our organization is coming into an area that national pundits don't even have on their radar.

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00:05:52.000 We're going to be going into those high-priority precincts, identifying those low-propensity conservative voters, getting them out to vote, moving away from the transactional approach that the Republican apparatus has promoted up until now to a relational approach that embraces the human element of politics.

00:06:11.000 The machine that the left has built has been heavily based on outside organization, voter registration, ballot chasing, and they supported those outside groups, 501c3s, 501c4s.

00:06:23.000 And meanwhile, the Democratic Party was able to have this now web of outside organizations all feeding into one common purpose.

00:06:31.000 They're all in different boats, but they're rowing to the same place.

00:06:34.000 What's happening on our side right now is that the RNC is swimming up water without a paddle and they think they can do it all on their own.

00:06:41.000 We at Turning Point Action understand that we're no more than one generation away from socialism.

00:06:46.000 And 2024 is the make or break year.

00:06:49.000 We can look back 10, 15, 20, even 50 years from now and say that we went one of two ways.

00:06:54.000 We went down the path of socialism and dark times ahead, or we saved our republic.

00:07:01.000 We unleashed the largest operation of ballot chasers that the conservative movement has ever seen.

00:07:07.000 And what we're doing in Wisconsin is being replicated all over the country.

00:07:11.000 We're putting the same amount of money and resources into Arizona as we are Wisconsin, into Georgia as we are Arizona.

00:07:17.000 Those three states are the three states that actually matter.

00:07:20.000 There is no path to the presidency without two of those states.

00:07:24.000 And realistically, if we're shooting for the moon here, we need all three of them.

00:07:28.000 And with our data-driven approach, going after those low-propensity, apathetic conservatives, we believe we can bring home the votes that we need to in areas like Waukesha County, Wisconsin, Maricopa County, Arizona, Cobb County, Georgia, areas that will make or break the future of this country.

00:07:46.000 This is a complete paradigm shift of how we know the conservative movement to be.

00:07:50.000 And we absolutely cannot do it without your support.

00:07:56.000 And that is just a little taste of how we are going to be chasing the vote, hiring, hiring up the largest full-time army.

00:08:02.000 Now, by the way, I want to just say the RNC, and we're working terrific with the RNC now.

00:08:06.000 That video was produced.

00:08:08.000 The script was written under the prior regime.

00:08:11.000 So I think very highly the RNC.

00:08:13.000 James Blair is doing great at the Trump campaign, really great to work with.

00:08:16.000 And thanks to new guidance from the FEC and thanks to Mark Elias, outside groups, such a turning point action on canvassing and doors, we can work much closely together.

00:08:26.000 Thanks to new guidance from the FEC.

00:08:30.000 And we dive deep into the details here.

00:08:33.000 We are out-registering Democrats in the state of Arizona.

00:08:38.000 We are out registering Democrats in Georgia.

00:08:42.000 And it's going to take the grind.

00:08:45.000 So what do the next couple months look like for us at Turning Point?

00:08:47.000 Well, we have a Turning Point Action People's Convention, tpaction.com slash peoples.

00:08:53.000 And then the summer, of course, we have the RNC.

00:08:55.000 We're going to have a big presence there in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

00:08:58.000 We're going to be hiring up all across the country.

00:09:01.000 And then ready, set, go, Labor Day.

00:09:05.000 We are going to be fully embedded in these communities with relationships.

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00:09:15.000 Estimates say that 1.5 to 2 million people watch or listen to this program every single day.

00:09:21.000 That's what some people say, according to all the numbers.

00:09:23.000 And if you count social media, it's even more.

00:09:25.000 If every single one of you made a commitment to do something every day from Labor Day to Judgment Day, every day, we're going to be in a great spot.

00:09:34.000 But it's still, it's a coin flip.

00:09:37.000 Some people say, you know, the audience of the Charlie Kirk show is upwards of 10 million a week.

00:09:42.000 Okay, so if every single person who hears this says, I'm going to go do something, I'm going to find one or two people in my life that are not yet registered to vote, find the low prop voter.

00:09:50.000 You don't need to go get your hyper-involved MAGA uncle who goes to the MAGA rallies.

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00:10:01.000 Get him to go knock on a couple doors, to go make a couple phone calls.

00:10:04.000 Next time you're at a Denny's and you're out with your family and the waitress is there, be like, hey, how do you feel about the country?

00:10:09.000 How's it going?

00:10:10.000 I did this the other day.

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00:10:40.000 Not, no, Stop it with that negative attitude that can do spirit.

00:10:46.000 It is right within our grasp.

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00:10:50.000 I'm not guaranteeing we're going to lose.

00:10:52.000 I guarantee our agency can make the difference.

00:10:56.000 And the Democrats, they are increasingly worried.

00:10:59.000 Their entire little fragile coalition with the Israel-Gaza thing is falling apart.

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00:11:12.000 Joe Biden just had like an incoherent sit-down interview with CNN and Aaron Burnett saying he never makes mistakes and the economy is great.

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00:11:23.000 Polling very well might be inaccurate.

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00:11:29.000 I don't want to hear people say, oh, we're going to win by five, win by 10.

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00:13:32.000 Okay, everybody, welcome back.

00:13:33.000 Vivek Ramaswamy is with us.

00:13:35.000 Vivek, you have a big announcement with your podcast.

00:13:37.000 I saw you had quite a conversation with Ann Coulter.

00:13:39.000 Tell us all about it, Vivek.

00:13:41.000 Yeah, look, I spent a year on the presidential campaign speaking hard truths that I think were needed in our movement, and I'm continuing that now.

00:13:49.000 I've taken some time with family, but I want to continue those hard conversations, especially on the right.

00:13:54.000 I think we sometimes don't have enough healthy, open discussion and debate, even within our own movement, about why we believe the things we actually do.

00:14:04.000 And so I relaunched the podcast that we were running during the campaign.

00:14:07.000 It took a hiatus for a couple of months.

00:14:10.000 It's called Truth, and it's first episode with Ann Coulter.

00:14:13.000 It actually was supposed to be about what I think of as a hot topic, the N-word you're not supposed to say, which we said, which is nationalism.

00:14:20.000 And I think that nationalism is a hot topic in America, but Ann just kicked it off with, you know, she's a person who doesn't hold back.

00:14:27.000 She was very frank with me and she said, you know what? 0.77

00:14:29.000 I can't vote for you because you're an Indian, even though I agree with everything you have to say. 0.86

00:14:33.000 And let's just say that set us up for a great hour, actually, diving pretty deep into what it means to be a citizen of this country. 1.00

00:14:42.000 And, you know, we're looking forward to having more of those conversations into one of these a week.

00:14:46.000 It's part of a portfolio of what I'm doing going forward, Charlie, but I do think having some of these conversations where we're not just reciting the conservative talking points of the day, but really challenging ourselves to believe why, understand why we believe what we do.

00:15:00.000 That's the point of the podcast.

00:15:01.000 And so I hope a lot of people check it out.

00:15:03.000 And it's called the truth.

00:15:05.000 Let's look at my campaign.

00:15:06.000 I just got a taste of Ann Coulter's comments there, which I do not share for the record.

00:15:09.000 Play Cut 125.

00:15:11.000 So, Ann, thanks for coming on.

00:15:12.000 And I'm looking forward to our conversation today.

00:15:15.000 Thanks for having me.

00:15:15.000 Me too.

00:15:16.000 That was a fantastic opening monologue.

00:15:20.000 I too am a fan of yours.

00:15:22.000 So I'm going to make a point of disagreeing with you so that it will be fun.

00:15:26.000 You are so bright and articulate. 1.00

00:15:28.000 And I guess I can call you articulate since you're not an American black. 1.00

00:15:33.000 Can't say that about them.

00:15:34.000 That's derogatory.

00:15:36.000 And that was a great opening segment.

00:15:38.000 Lots of things to talk about there.

00:15:40.000 Oh, and I agreed with many, many things you said during, in fact, probably more than most other candidates when you were running for president. 1.00

00:15:48.000 But I still would not have voted for you because you're an Indian. 1.00

00:15:53.000 We'll get back to that. 1.00

00:15:56.000 So that's the teaser, Vivek.

00:15:58.000 Is that right?

00:15:59.000 Yeah, it was, it was actually, I was taken by shock because I know people are very candid, but I think that she represented a view that it's not a minority, it's not a fringe minority view, Charlie.

00:16:09.000 And I think it opened up a conversation about what role ethnic identity actually plays in grounding who we are as Americans.

00:16:15.000 I think it's a fair conversation to have.

00:16:17.000 And we're having that conversation at a moment where so many ethnicities, right, from Indian ethnicity to Asian to black to Hispanic, every ethnicity is allowed to be proud of their own ethnicity.

00:16:28.000 And I think one of the things that Ann Coulter chafes at, understandably, is that if you're white, you can't be proud of your own ethnic identity.

00:16:35.000 But I think that that risks making the mistake of actually forgetting about American identity along the way.

00:16:40.000 And I think that if we become sort of tribally attached to our own ethnic identities, which is normally a mistake you see made on the left, then I think that's going to be the fracturing of a country that was founded on a set of ideals that our founders enshrined. 0.66

00:16:53.000 And yes, do we have immigration policies that are selecting for a bunch of people who are randomly entering this country who have no allegiance to this country and let alone even anything of value to add to this country? 0.60

00:17:03.000 Yes, I think that is a big problem today.

00:17:06.000 But part of what we're seeing is a reaction to that, a reactionary wave that may cause us to forget what we stand for in the first place.

00:17:14.000 And so Ann and I, we challenge each other.

00:17:16.000 And I think a lot of good came out of it.

00:17:18.000 And I do think that we need more conversations like that on the right about what it means to be a positive American nationalist.

00:17:24.000 What does it actually mean to be a citizen?

00:17:27.000 You know, one of the things that occurred to me afterwards that I didn't get to ask her is, suppose if you have somebody who is a seventh or eighth generation American.

00:17:36.000 So look, I think that it's an interesting thought experiment.

00:17:38.000 Somebody's been in this country of Anglo-American stock for eight generations, but you have somebody who has adopted a child that was born in this country, but was of a different ethnic stock.

00:17:49.000 Maybe they have black skin. 0.50

00:17:50.000 Is that person any less American? 0.93

00:17:52.000 Of course they're not, right?

00:17:53.000 For having been brought up in that same household.

00:17:56.000 And so I think it's a kind of thought experiment that's put pressure on this idea that ethnicity or shade of melan on the base of your genetics has anything to do with your national identity.

00:18:05.000 We're making the same mistake as the left if we actually adopt that view.

00:18:09.000 But what we're not talking about enough is how do we create national cohesion that we're missing?

00:18:13.000 Making English the national language of the United States.

00:18:16.000 I think that's a no-brainer.

00:18:17.000 Making actually the actual knowledge of this country's constitution and history a precondition for becoming a full citizen of this country, no matter where you grew up before you're actually able to participate in the civic process of voting.

00:18:31.000 These are things that I think we haven't taken up.

00:18:33.000 And one of the questions that I often reflect on is, you know, why was I the only Republican candidate who's able to adopt certain positions that most of us agree with, that you got to be able to speak English if you're going to actually be a full citizen of this country, that you got to know something about this country to be able to be a full citizen of this country.

00:18:51.000 And I think those are the kinds of conversations that we ought to challenge each other with.

00:18:55.000 That's what this whole podcast relaunch is all about.

00:18:58.000 I'm going to be doing that once a week.

00:19:00.000 And the more we do that, I think the stronger our movement is going to be because of it.

00:19:03.000 Sure, we have our debates with the left.

00:19:05.000 And I think we ought to have even healthier debates between the America First wing of the new conservative movement and the neoconservative vision of foreign interventionism and a surveillance state.

00:19:15.000 And we've begun to have some of that.

00:19:17.000 But I think there's also room for even healthy debate about what the future of MAGA is, about what the future of America First is.

00:19:24.000 And I think that that debate strengthens us.

00:19:26.000 It reminds us why we stand for what we do.

00:19:29.000 And, you know, I think we could actually have a lot more room for that, where you'd take a topic like, you know, what level of aid should the United States be providing to Israel?

00:19:38.000 Should the U.S. be banning TikTok or not?

00:19:41.000 I think you have solid America-first MAGA patriots who love this country who end up on both sides of those questions.

00:19:48.000 And I think that we got to elevate that kind of thoughtful debate in a way that's going to make us stronger for it.

00:19:53.000 So, Vivek, I want to get your thoughts here.

00:19:55.000 The Democrats are clearly pivoting now that their law fair is failing.

00:19:59.000 They're saying that Trump won't accept the results of the election.

00:20:01.000 The DHS and CISA are gearing up election integrity from far-right threats and disinformation threats.

00:20:09.000 We need to demand that Democrats will accept the election results.

00:20:12.000 They're laying the groundwork actually not to do it.

00:20:15.000 Your thoughts, Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:20:17.000 Well, I find that offensive, Charlie, that DHS is going to make some proclamations now concerning election integrity.

00:20:23.000 You're right.

00:20:24.000 You know, it does sit under DHS, the purview of election security in this country. 0.99

00:20:27.000 Here's something DHS should be doing right now: make sure any illegal immigrant who's known to be in this country is removed from voter roles across this country.

00:20:36.000 Individual secretaries of state don't actually have that same information that DHS does. 0.57

00:20:41.000 Well, you know what?

00:20:41.000 You should match those two databases.

00:20:43.000 And so if you actually want to preach about election security in the 2024 election, I'm going to challenge my OCAS and DHS sitting under him to at least do the number one thing they can practically do is match the actual file of people who are known to be in this country illegally, match them to the voter roll.

00:20:59.000 They're going to have a lot of matches, Charlie, this year.

00:21:02.000 Well, you know what?

00:21:02.000 Separate the ones who shouldn't be.

00:21:04.000 That's the way they should be securing election integrity.

00:21:06.000 Instead, they're failing to do that, not because of a technical failure, but because they actually it's a failure of intention.

00:21:11.000 They don't want to do it and then are going to use pions to election integrity to try to turn on their head what many of us on the right have been saying for a long time.

00:21:19.000 So that's my answer to that.

00:21:20.000 Yeah, the Department of Homeland Security is now saying that they're going to monitor far-right extremist activity and collaborate with FBI and U.S. intelligence agencies to neutralize particular threats of far-right extremist activity.

00:21:37.000 Vivek, what can we expect now that their law fair has failed in this second chapter of unconventional warfare against our movement?

00:21:46.000 Oh, this is still very early, Charlie.

00:21:48.000 And I think the people missed this.

00:21:49.000 I think the next six months, we're going to enter some, I think, really frightening territory.

00:21:55.000 We're skating on thin ice as a country, right?

00:21:57.000 What do they try to do?

00:21:58.000 First, you got the civil suits against Donald Trump.

00:22:00.000 Then you've got the state prosecutions.

00:22:02.000 Then you've got the federal prosecutions.

00:22:04.000 Then you've got the attempts to remove him off the ballot extrajudicially.

00:22:07.000 Now you see, I mean, this is chilling.

00:22:09.000 The ability to try to strip him of his secret service if he's convicted of any of this.

00:22:13.000 And this is still just the beginning, Charlie.

00:22:16.000 And so I think we're going to see a lot of twists and turns.

00:22:19.000 Anybody on our side who's getting complacent at the current poll numbers, you know what?

00:22:22.000 It's time to wake up and actually realize the other side has always been one step ahead.

00:22:26.000 So can I make a prediction of exactly what they're going to do?

00:22:29.000 No, I can't, which is actually what makes them so good at it on the other side of this war.

00:22:34.000 We got to get up to being one step ahead ourselves.

00:22:37.000 And I do think that we're going to see, I mean, I still think it's far from a foregone conclusion that Biden is going to be the nominee at the end of this.

00:22:44.000 I think they're leading us into a false trap, training all of our fire on Biden.

00:22:49.000 What a best way to make a bait and switch in the final months leading into that election.

00:22:53.000 I think there's a lot of gamesmanship we're going to see even in the way the election is conducted.

00:22:58.000 I think the mass migration policies that you've seen and the acceleration of that in the last couple of years is not unrelated to the fact that we have an election coming up this November.

00:23:07.000 I want to play a piece of tape here about the Israel-Gaza issue that is breaking the left.

00:23:11.000 Let's play Cut 117, please.

00:23:13.000 Do you think that President Biden could lose the election over this?

00:23:17.000 Well, that's what I worry about.

00:23:19.000 Look, I think Biden has a lot of accomplishments.

00:23:22.000 And the point that I would make and have made before, Joe Biden is not running against God.

00:23:28.000 He's not running against the perfect candidate.

00:23:30.000 He's running against a guy named Donald Trump, the most dangerous president in the history of this country.

00:23:36.000 So what I would say to young people and all Americans, if you believe in the foundations of American democracy, you cannot vote for Trump, who's undermining democracy.

00:23:46.000 So I believe that was the right tape, but there was one in particular they believe that they are going to lose the election, Vivek, or that he could lose the election because of the Gaza war.

00:23:58.000 Is this breaking the back of the Democrat donors versus their frothing at the mouth base?

00:24:05.000 Look, I think that it is.

00:24:06.000 I mean, there's a real fissure within the Democratic Party.

00:24:09.000 But we got to be honest then, Charlie, for calling this like it is.

00:24:12.000 There's also a fissure in the Republican Party.

00:24:13.000 You and I were just talking about the weaponization of the federal government, how the federal government, including DHS, in conjunction with the FBI and other national security agencies, are going to be spying on so-called right-wing extremist groups.

00:24:25.000 Well, let's be honest that we also have a wing of the Republican Party that just helped enact into law the very toolkit, FISA 702 and its expansion that allows the federal government to do that even more effectively than it ever has.

00:24:36.000 And so the reality, if we're just speaking hard truths here and try to stay true to what I say I do is, yes, we have that fissure in the Democratic Party.

00:24:44.000 And I do think that that's an opportunity for the Republican Party.

00:24:47.000 But we've also got deep-seated fissures, ideological fissures from war aid to Ukraine to the existence of a surveillance state through the reauthorization of FISA 702.

00:24:56.000 When we say we're against the weaponization of government, reauthorizing more of it that will likely be used against Republicans this year, that's also a fissure in the Republican Party.

00:25:04.000 And so I'm against this culture of complacency. 0.97

00:25:07.000 There's a million things we could look at on the other side that CNN or Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden is saying on a given day that sounds so nonsensical or so stupid that it gives us hope because we get to laugh at it.

00:25:18.000 I'm worried actually the bigger risk is that we're expecting this red wave in 2024, just like we did in 2022.

00:25:25.000 And for some of the same reasons, it's not going to come unless we actually step up and actually do something about it.

00:25:31.000 And you're among the people and TPUSA action is among the groups that's actually laying the groundwork to say that we're not going to be complacent.

00:25:37.000 So I applaud you for that and all the work that you're doing.

00:25:40.000 And I'm looking forward to coming to Michigan and talking more about the efforts that we're going to actually need to lay the groundwork for to actually win this election.

00:25:47.000 But this idea of looking at what they're saying to each other, and yes, they're losing some of their far left support and analyzing that and feeling good about ourselves.

00:25:54.000 No, I don't think this is a moment for that type of complacency.

00:25:57.000 We got to wake up and fix what's the disorder and discord and lack of coherence on our own side of the house and also get in charge of the tactics that are actually going to win this election, because otherwise we're at risk of losing yet again.

00:26:09.000 Yeah, in closing here, Vivek, you look at the issue set.

00:26:12.000 It favors us tremendously.

00:26:14.000 If we think it is going to happen automatically, I think we're in for a surprise.

00:26:18.000 I still give Joe Biden a slight advantage.

00:26:20.000 Not that he's a better candidate.

00:26:22.000 He's the worst president of my lifetime, but that he has the institution, he has the machine, that he has all the different levers of power, and he's better at gaming the system.

00:26:31.000 It's up for us to get into the tactics and also lay out a proper vision.

00:26:36.000 This summer, you're going to be doing a lot of speaking, Vivek, about what that vision looks like.

00:26:39.000 Kind of give us a little bit of a tease.

00:26:41.000 Yeah, look, I think one of the things we got to do is show up in the places where traditional Republicans don't actually show up.

00:26:46.000 Think about college campuses.

00:26:48.000 Think about the inner city.

00:26:49.000 Think about where people who have traditionally been relegated to Democrats.

00:26:53.000 A lot of them are hungry to come our way if we just extend the olive branch and actually show up and stand for America First principles.

00:26:59.000 I've been to the south side of Chicago.

00:27:01.000 There are more people there, Charlie, than in many Republican donor meetings I've been in who are in favor of using our own military to seal the southern border.

00:27:07.000 All right.

00:27:08.000 Many of those people are dead set against just forking over blindly more money to Ukraine.

00:27:12.000 And so I think a true America first wing of the Republican Party, and that's obviously what Donald Trump represents from the front, is going to bring along people in this country who would have never thought of themselves of voting for a traditional Republican.

00:27:24.000 And so this summer, I'm going to help in whatever way I can, heading all the way through the election in showing up in those non-traditional places.

00:27:30.000 You know, you don't need to just stand side by side with the other people who are showing up in the traditional places.

00:27:34.000 You know, I'll do that for wherever I can be helpful.

00:27:37.000 But the real place I'd like to be helpful is going where Republicans traditionally haven't gone.

00:27:42.000 And that's a big part of how we're going to actually win this, not by a little bit.

00:27:46.000 We have to win it by a lot because a landslide minus some shenanigans is still a victory.

00:27:51.000 And so that's the standard we got to hold ourselves to in November.

00:27:54.000 Vivek, thank you so much.

00:27:55.000 Excellent work.

00:27:56.000 Really appreciate it.

00:27:56.000 Thank you.

00:27:57.000 And check out his new podcast, Truth.

00:27:59.000 Thank you.

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00:29:05.000 Joining us now is an amazing patriot, Dr. Robert Malone.

00:29:09.000 Doctor, welcome to the program.

00:29:12.000 You have been proven correct.

00:29:14.000 AstraZeneca COVID vaccine is being withdrawn worldwide.

00:29:19.000 You tried to warn people three years ago.

00:29:21.000 Dr. Malone, what's going on here?

00:29:24.000 Well, Charlie, we do seem to have a gradual rollout of limited hangout responses from the federal government, as well as from the manufacturers concerning the adverse events and death associated with these products.

00:29:38.000 But in the case of the AstraZeneca product, they're busy trying to hide with words or obfuscate what is going on here.

00:29:48.000 Technically, they are not withdrawing this because of adverse events, according to corporate PR.

00:29:56.000 But basically, due to the fact that no one's using their product or buying it, they mask this with nice words about there are multiple vaccines on the market that are more updated to the current variant and basically write it off as that.

00:30:15.000 But concurrent, there's a major lawsuit, really a class action suit ongoing in the UK, having to do with a problem called idiopathic thrombocytopenic per pur or ITP.

00:30:30.000 Basically, this is microvascular clotting, and it is linked to AstraZeneca's product.

00:30:38.000 Even though AstraZeneca categorically denied that this is the case, that's no longer defensible.

00:30:44.000 And there's a court case that's proving that, and it's probably going to take a little bit of a bite out of their profit margins.

00:30:52.000 So behind the scenes and in the British press that's more open, they're attributing it to this lawsuit and this additional adverse event, which, by the way, the FDA knew about way back before these were even licensed.

00:31:09.000 And it's not restricted just to the AstraZeneca product.

00:31:14.000 But that's the dynamic that's going on is AZ is not being able to sell their vaccine product, which is restricted to Europe and the UK.

00:31:26.000 And nobody wants to buy it.

00:31:28.000 They're not taking the jab.

00:31:30.000 It's not updated.

00:31:32.000 Not that that would matter because there's a new study out from the Cleveland Clinic that shows that even the updated vaccines are, I think Cleveland Clinic calls it poorly effective and associated with, here's another fun term, negative efficacy, which means it makes it more likely that you develop COVID weeks to months after you receive the jab.

00:31:57.000 So even the updated vaccines aren't working and they seem to be actually making people more likely to get the disease.

00:32:04.000 Over.

00:32:05.000 So Dr. Malone, who's going to go to jail over this?

00:32:08.000 I mean, this is one of the great injustices in the history of the civilization.

00:32:13.000 There must be justice.

00:32:17.000 Yeah, I'm with you.

00:32:18.000 And my wife and I were discussing this this morning from the cynical live too close to DC frame of reference.

00:32:25.000 I think that Peter Dazik is likely to get excommunicated metaphorically from his ability to receive federal funds in the future and also EcoHealth Alliance.

00:32:38.000 I think Tony Fauci is going to be subjected to a vigorous tongue-lashing by the select subcommittee in the House, probably nothing more than that.

00:32:49.000 It is, as you say, a case, strong case can be made.

00:32:53.000 This is the largest mass murder event in modern history.

00:33:02.000 And I think it's highly unlikely that there will be the accountability that the vaccine damaged and harmed in the general populace deserves because it's also becoming increasingly clear based on the select subcommittee's investigations of the origins.

00:33:27.000 They're restricting their activities just to the origins of the virus.

00:33:31.000 And they've just disclosed that they've reviewed a report from the State Department that's classified that clearly indicates a role of the People's Liberation Army, the Wuhan Institute of Virology in the origins of the infection, that this is a lab leak of an engineered pathogen.

00:33:55.000 And of course, Mr. Dazik categorically denied that or any knowledge of the involvement of the PLA.

00:34:03.000 But they won't even touch the issues in the House Select Subcommittee on Investigations and Accountability, staffed by seven physicians, as I recall.

00:34:15.000 They won't even ask questions about the JAB.

00:34:18.000 So I want to now play this piece of tape here.

00:34:20.000 It's 126.

00:34:21.000 It is Dr. Deborah Burks with Chris Cuomo, of all people.

00:34:25.000 It is very important.

00:34:27.000 Play cut 126.

00:34:29.000 What is your opening statement about whether or not the COVID vaccines were effective and whether they are safe?

00:34:37.000 They were very effective for what they were supposed to be used for, which was prevent severe disease and hospitalization and deaths.

00:34:44.000 Were there issues with the vaccines when you've immunized millions, close to billions of people?

00:34:51.000 Tracking that will give us critical information because what I love that you had Sean on and he made the point.

00:34:58.000 A lot of his symptoms are similar to long COVID symptoms.

00:35:02.000 Well, that makes total sense.

00:35:03.000 That happens often with immunizations.

00:35:07.000 But is the reason because they don't want to know that they, being the deep state, big pharma, the government, whatever boogeyman you want to fill in, because the truth is the vaccines didn't really work and there are way more side effects and more people got sick and got better as a result of it.

00:35:25.000 Well, that's why we need all the people to come forward that have had reactions because I'm not sure all of them have been reported.

00:35:32.000 Do I think it's millions?

00:35:33.000 No.

00:35:34.000 Could it be thousands?

00:35:35.000 Yes, but there's millions of people with long COVID.

00:35:38.000 Dr. Malone, she's backpedaling, backtracking.

00:35:40.000 Hold on, first they said that no one had any issues with it.

00:35:43.000 They want everyone to come forward.

00:35:46.000 They're going to have a lot of people.

00:35:47.000 Dr. Malone, that is an extraordinary clip.

00:35:50.000 These people have blood on their hands.

00:35:52.000 So, Charlie, it was also almost complete lies.

00:35:56.000 The vaccine was not licensed for prevention of disease.

00:36:02.000 That statement that she just made is a complete fabrication.

00:36:07.000 It is well documented.

00:36:09.000 You can go back to the emergency use authorization.

00:36:13.000 The FDA authorization was for prevention of infection and disease.

00:36:19.000 It had nothing to do with reduction in symptoms or severity of disease.

00:36:24.000 That's just a cover-up lie that's been promoted repeatedly because it's the only thing that they've been able to fall back on because the data on prevention of infection and disease is so clearly overwhelming that the product does not work for that.

00:36:42.000 Her statement regarding the number of vaccine injured is also clearly a lie.

00:36:52.000 All one has to do is look at the VARES reports.

00:36:55.000 And more close to the mark is the recent comment from Ashish Jaw, dean of, I believe it's Brown University School of Medicine,

00:37:07.000 who is the Biden administration's COVID response coordinator on Fox News, where he recently acknowledged that physicians are afraid to engage patients and even raise the concern that their symptoms post-vaccination may be attributable to the vaccine.

00:37:31.000 He speaks about the history of medicine and this unwillingness of physicians to acknowledge unpleasant truths and that this has been a historic trend.

00:37:44.000 So Jaw seems to be much closer to the mark, but this is part of this, as I said, kind of limited hangout sequential rollout that we're seeing, starting with the New York Times op-ed that's been famously re-quoted with a very, very modest limited hangout position, acknowledging that there were at least some deaths.

00:38:10.000 That's also been documented.

00:38:11.000 The CDC knew that there were deaths associated with the vaccine in 21.

00:38:16.000 So that Burke's has no credibility anymore.

00:38:20.000 She has just lied and misrepresented all the way through this.

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00:39:28.000 So, Dr. Malone, if you were to conjecture or guess based on all available evidence of what the bad guys might have planned in this calendar year of 2024, what would it be?

00:39:42.000 Oh, they're definitely ramping up the fear point around bird flu.

00:39:46.000 That's open and transparent now.

00:39:52.000 You're asking a broad question where the bad guys have planned.

00:39:55.000 I really enjoyed the latest edition of the New American, where there were multiple essays discussing the electoral fraud issues.

00:40:06.000 So, I think we can fully expect to see manipulations of outcomes in real time.

00:40:15.000 And the only debate in those essays was basically around can we overwhelm the fraud through mass voting in favor of conservative candidates.

00:40:30.000 So, big picture, we can expect ongoing, as we've been seeing now for the past two elections at least, evidence attempts to manipulate election outcomes.

00:40:47.000 But in terms of public health, the big issue that's confronting us right now is the quote pandemic treaty and the international health regulations at the World Health Organization.

00:40:58.000 This is a clear power grab by the individuals that also bear a lot of the responsibility for the true misinformation, disinformation, and malinformation that's been promoted, and that's the World Health Organization, Mr. Tedros, and his colleagues.

00:41:16.000 And on the basis of their clear mismanagement of the COVID crisis and multiple misrepresentations, they now assert that they need more money and power in the ability to intervene in nation states and to bypass constitutional provisions.

00:41:34.000 So, that's the big one, the big issue that many of us have our eyes on right now is the upcoming WHO terms.

00:41:45.000 And we fully expect Mr. Biden to execute a presidential directive or something along those lines, which has the power of a treaty.

00:41:56.000 The Senate is finally, finally waking up to this.

00:42:02.000 And there was a recent statement, I think, by the entire Republican caucus in the Senate that if Mr. Biden is going to agree to any of these terms and conditions at WHO, that he must subject them to oversight and a vote because they will have the force of a treaty.

00:42:25.000 And so, at least the Republican side of the Senate is insisting finally that they be allowed to participate in oversight of treaty and to execute their constitutional authority to thumbs up a thumbs down based on a two-thirds vote.

00:42:48.000 So, that's the big one.

00:42:51.000 But the fear is continuing to be promoted.

00:42:55.000 In Dasek's testimony, he threw down the presence of PCR signal in milk associated with bird flu.

00:43:08.000 We have very little evidence, I think, one or two individuals in the United States that have been infected.

00:43:14.000 This H5N1 is poorly infectious in humans.

00:43:20.000 And bird flu has been with us as long as we've had modern influenza research.

00:43:27.000 And we have, by the way, three vaccines in the stockpile that BARDA has funded for H5N1.

00:43:36.000 So that's not such an issue.

00:43:40.000 We've had a repeated rollout of a variety of fear porn relating now, most recently, tuberculosis, earlier leprosy.

00:43:49.000 in Florida.

00:43:51.000 This weaponized fear, I argue, is fundamentally unethical.

00:43:59.000 We have had fear weaponized to control populations regarding infectious disease now almost constantly for four years.

00:44:07.000 A lot of us are getting to it.

00:44:11.000 But I think that we have to stand up and make a clear, unequivocal point that this is unethical behavior.

00:44:19.000 The weaponization of fear concerning infectious disease by industry and government is fundamentally unethical.

00:44:28.000 It must be rejected.

00:44:30.000 We must call them out for doing so, as we must call them out on all of their other perversions, such as the misrepresentation of the likes of you and I, that we're far right, quote unquote, when in fact we're center right and they're the ones that are far left.

00:44:47.000 Exactly.

00:44:47.000 Dr. Malone, thank you so much.

00:44:49.000 God bless you.

00:44:49.000 Hope to have you on again soon.

00:44:50.000 Thank you.

00:44:51.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:44:54.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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00:44:58.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 09, 2024

Ann Coulter Told Vivek WHAT?

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