The Charlie Kirk Show - May 06, 2025


ANTIFA, Canada, and Rogue Judges


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Antifa takes over the University of Washington, Ari Hoffman gives us the play-by-play of the event, and we bring in Alex Marlow to break down the Oval Office meeting between Prime Minister Mark Carney and President Trump.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show from the Bitcoin Mobile Studio.
00:00:04.000 I'm Andrew Colvett, your host for the day.
00:00:06.000 As Charlie's on assignment at San Francisco State, we have an action-packed show for you.
00:00:11.000 First, we tell you all about what happened last night at the University of Washington.
00:00:15.000 Antifa, in Black Block, took over that school.
00:00:18.000 We have Ari Hoffman from Seattle, who gives us the play-by-play of a really disturbing event that took place there, protesting...
00:00:28.000 Boeing and a bunch of Hamas supporters.
00:00:30.000 And then we bring in Alex Marlow to break down the Oval Office meeting between Mark Carney, Prime Minister of Canada, and President Trump.
00:00:38.000 The art of the deal is on full display, let me assure you, in that Oval Office meeting.
00:00:43.000 And Alex Marlow is one of the...
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00:02:25.000 All right, welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:28.000 This is your guest host for the day.
00:02:30.000 Producer Andrew Colvett, honored to be with you from sea to shining sea across the Fruited Plain.
00:02:37.000 Charlie's on assignment today.
00:02:38.000 He's going to be at San Francisco State doing a big campus event up there.
00:02:43.000 And it ties in kind of to our first guest, which is Ari Hoffman.
00:02:48.000 He's the West Coast editor.
00:02:49.000 We're going to get started right off the bat here with guests.
00:02:52.000 West Coast editor of the Post Millennial.
00:02:53.000 He's also a Seattle radio host, Talk Radio 570 KVI.
00:02:59.000 Ari, welcome to the show.
00:03:01.000 I wanted to get started with you really quick here.
00:03:04.000 I woke up this morning, and my alma mater, I went to UW, University of Washington Huskies, was all over the news.
00:03:13.000 Antifa taking over buildings.
00:03:15.000 And why this relates to Charlie being at San Francisco State University, you might remember, Ari, and he's going to be there with Riley Gaines, is that Riley Gaines did a turning point.
00:03:23.000 USA event there.
00:03:25.000 A few years back, got locked in a...
00:03:29.000 She was basically taken hostage in a room.
00:03:31.000 These trans agitators, I'm sure many of them, friends with the Antifa crowd, trapped her in a room there for hours. 0.53
00:03:39.000 The police were feckless.
00:03:40.000 They didn't do anything.
00:03:41.000 Now, explain to our audience, it's just getting caught up on the news today, what happened in Seattle overnight, specifically at the University of Washington, an engineering building, I believe.
00:03:52.000 Yeah, you wouldn't even recognize the place after what happened last night, Andrew.
00:03:55.000 So this is a brand new building they just built with grant money from the feds, from Seattle, from the state, and from Boeing.
00:04:02.000 Boeing has this massive engineering program out at the University of Washington.
00:04:06.000 So the Hamasniks and Antifa activists decided they were going to take it over to protest Boeing supplying Israel with weaponry to fight its war against Hamas.
00:04:16.000 So they took over the building.
00:04:18.000 About 20 of them were inside.
00:04:20.000 About 60 of them were outside.
00:04:21.000 The majority of them, unlike previous protests, they were mostly Antifa activists as opposed to the Hamas activists that have been at the University of Washington campus since October 7th and have been around for multiple protests.
00:04:35.000 Now, this is also the first time we saw police really come in and break things up.
00:04:40.000 Let's not forget there was a Gaza encampment there at the Quad for four weeks last year, and the administration caved to all of their demands. 0.99
00:04:48.000 So these activists...
00:04:50.000 We're dragging out material.
00:04:52.000 They were dragging out furniture, lighting it on fire along with dumpsters.
00:04:55.000 This is a brand new building and they're destroying it.
00:04:58.000 The group that ran this is a student group called Super U-Dub, which is affiliated with groups that are anti-Israel.
00:05:04.000 They were suspended from campus last year as an official student group because they caused over $50,000 in damage.
00:05:11.000 To the Husky Student Union building, which is where a lot of the kids hang out, where the food court is.
00:05:16.000 I don't need to tell you that.
00:05:17.000 You went there.
00:05:18.000 But they caused over $50,000 in damage to that building, so they were suspended, yet they're still allowed to table on campus.
00:05:24.000 And to make things worse, we know that the campus is not prepared for lots of other actions.
00:05:30.000 They're still allowed to table on campus even though they've been suspended?
00:05:33.000 How's that work?
00:05:34.000 So it's just, I mean, lack of leadership from...
00:05:37.000 University of Washington says, well, it's a free speech issue because it's an open campus and they can be wherever they want.
00:05:42.000 So a few weeks ago, there's a video that actually went viral of them tabling on campus, and they're selling T-shirts that have Hamas terrorists on them, that have images from October 7th on them, and they're giving out the same material we saw at Columbia University.
00:05:55.000 From those activists there, that was printed from the Hamas Media Group.
00:05:59.000 Also, here's something else.
00:06:01.000 Tonight, there's a Turning Point event on campus featuring Riley Gaines and featuring Olivia Krolchuk.
00:06:06.000 A few months back, Olivia Krolchuk came to campus to speak, and she wasn't able to do so because these activists shut down the speech. 0.56
00:06:14.000 So the question is, what's going to happen tonight?
00:06:16.000 Yeah, I mean, Riley's doing the West Coast tour, and that's why this all ties in.
00:06:20.000 So she's going to be with Charlie at San Francisco State.
00:06:23.000 During the day for a tabling event and then going straight up to University of Washington to do a second event.
00:06:32.000 And now University of Washington is set ablaze.
00:06:34.000 Now, I do want to give some credit here to the police.
00:06:38.000 I mean, it sounds like it was a bit of a delayed response time here.
00:06:42.000 I don't know.
00:06:42.000 How long were the protesters, how long were the vigilantes allowed to sort of set up shop there in the engineering building before police got there?
00:06:52.000 The police seem to be pretty forceful in this instance to clear the building.
00:06:58.000 Well, I think University of Washington is worried about losing their federal funding.
00:07:01.000 They're on the list of schools that's being investigated by the Trump administration.
00:07:04.000 So what happened was this started around 6 p.m. last night, 5, 6 p.m. last night.
00:07:09.000 The police breached the building.
00:07:11.000 They gave the first order to disperse around 1030, and they breached the building around 11. Everybody was in custody and arrested by about 115, 130.
00:07:19.000 It's a very big building.
00:07:20.000 So yeah, lots of credit to the police, but it seems like everybody was taken by surprise.
00:07:24.000 There was no chatter.
00:07:25.000 There was no posting about this event.
00:07:27.000 The way they usually do on social media.
00:07:30.000 So when the police gave the dispersal order at around 1030, they had already assembled on site.
00:07:36.000 So University of Washington called in the University of Washington police, the Seattle police and the Washington State Patrol, as well as private security to assist with this.
00:07:44.000 Excellent.
00:07:45.000 Well, I'm...
00:07:46.000 A bit encouraged that the police are showing the force that I think is really necessary.
00:07:52.000 And it is fascinating to watch their tactics change, evolve over time.
00:07:58.000 As you said, they didn't post on social media.
00:08:00.000 I heard nothing about this last night.
00:08:01.000 I woke up and saw all the imagery everywhere.
00:08:04.000 Just to give the audience a little taste of how this...
00:08:09.000 How these groups operate.
00:08:11.000 They're shouting death to police.
00:08:13.000 Every police death is a victory for the resistance.
00:08:16.000 Play cut 217.
00:08:18.000 We charge you with genocide.
00:08:22.000 Please clear the street.
00:08:24.000 Shut the fuck up! 0.99
00:08:27.000 Death to the police!
00:08:30.000 Death to the police!
00:08:32.000 You can be subject to arrest.
00:08:34.000 Again, you can peacefully protest.
00:08:37.000 Do not interfere with these officers.
00:08:40.000 Abolish the police.
00:08:44.000 They're real chump. 1.00
00:08:48.000 Every cop dead is a victory for the resistance.
00:08:52.000 Every IOF soldier killed is a victory against colonialism.
00:08:58.000 Yikes.
00:08:59.000 Ari, the best you can.
00:09:01.000 I mean, this is pure insanity.
00:09:02.000 The best you can.
00:09:03.000 What motivates these people?
00:09:05.000 And why is Seattle and the West Coast, including San Francisco, Oregon, Portland, why is it such a hotbed for these lunatics?
00:09:12.000 Well, because they've gone away with it for so long.
00:09:14.000 Let's not forget, this didn't start after October 7th.
00:09:16.000 This is the kind of stuff that's been going on since the George Floyd riots that rocked Seattle in 2020, since the deadly autonomous zone where you had six people shot, two people who were killed.
00:09:27.000 Seattle did absolutely nothing about it.
00:09:29.000 For a month, they let that occupation of six blocks of Seattle exist.
00:09:33.000 Now, last night was a little interesting because we haven't seen much of Antifa this year.
00:09:38.000 We've seen them around.
00:09:38.000 I'm not going to say they were gone, but it's been more.
00:09:41.000 The Hamas supporters.
00:09:43.000 This was the first time we've seen a really big action by Antifa in a really long time.
00:09:48.000 There's always been some of their activists supplementing these guys.
00:09:51.000 And also, here's something else.
00:09:52.000 They had a manifesto last night where they called it a student intifada, which means armed uprising.
00:09:58.000 And they said that following the uprising of student action for Palestine after the heroic victory of Al-Aqsa flood on October 7th, that means they are praising the terrorist attacks of October 7th.
00:10:10.000 We're happy that Palestine was brought to the forefront of all justice-loving people in the world.
00:10:16.000 And meanwhile, you're talking about Antifa and Hamas terrorists and terrorist supporters that are destroying campuses, that are targeting Jews, that are targeting Christians, that are targeting Americans on college campuses.
00:10:30.000 Hamas, the new thing. 1.00
00:10:32.000 I mean, it was George Floyd, it's race, and now it's Hamas. 0.96
00:10:36.000 It's the new thing, always the new thing.
00:10:39.000 They just adopt whatever that new next thing is, and then they go and cause property damage and vandalize public buildings, especially a brand new engineering building, by the way.
00:10:49.000 And they're calling for the university to cut ties with Boeing, to cease all donations from Boeing.
00:10:57.000 It's a really, really dramatic sight out of Seattle last night.
00:11:01.000 It seemed like it came out of nowhere, too.
00:11:03.000 And I think that was the shocking part here, Ari.
00:11:05.000 Thank you so much for jumping on, Ari.
00:11:07.000 I know you guys had a late night last night covering this story.
00:11:11.000 Tell everybody how they can follow you and follow along with this story.
00:11:14.000 I know you're going to be covering it today.
00:11:15.000 Absolutely.
00:11:16.000 You can see the writings on the story over at the Post Millennial.
00:11:19.000 You can follow me at TheHaFather on Twitter, Ari Hoffman Official on Facebook and Instagram.
00:11:25.000 Appreciate it.
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00:12:30.000 President Trump is meeting with Prime Minister Carney from Canada in the Oval.
00:12:34.000 I want to go ahead and throw to that.
00:12:36.000 It's already been a rather eventful meeting, so let's go ahead and throw to that Oval Office meeting.
00:12:42.000 25% on aluminum, 25% on steel, and maybe more importantly, massive numbers of companies are moving into the United States.
00:12:51.000 Honda.
00:12:52.000 We have tremendous car companies that are moving in at levels we've never seen before.
00:12:59.000 The biggest investment ever made in the United States is being made right now.
00:13:04.000 Trillions of dollars.
00:13:05.000 I would say we could be at nine.
00:13:08.000 Nine trillion dollars.
00:13:09.000 You could go back to other presidents.
00:13:11.000 They haven't had $1 trillion for their entire term.
00:13:16.000 Look at Biden.
00:13:17.000 He had bad numbers.
00:13:18.000 People are leaving.
00:13:19.000 They weren't coming in.
00:13:20.000 They were leaving with Biden.
00:13:21.000 And he didn't know the difference.
00:13:23.000 The only thing he knew is people coming in.
00:13:25.000 You know who they were?
00:13:26.000 Illegal immigrants. 1.00
00:13:28.000 Okay?
00:13:28.000 From prisons, from mental institutions, from all sorts of places that weren't good.
00:13:35.000 From gangs, from Venezuela. 1.00
00:13:38.000 They were coming in and there were criminals and murderers, 11,888 people that murdered, and at least half of them murdered, more than one person.
00:13:47.000 This is what Biden led into our country.
00:13:49.000 I'm bringing in big companies.
00:13:51.000 We have Apple is investing $500 billion.
00:13:55.000 We have Jensen, as you know, is going to be 500, biggest chip maker, or chip thinker, I call him.
00:14:02.000 He's really a thinker more than a maker.
00:14:04.000 But we also have the maker, Mr. Wei.
00:14:07.000 I get to know them all in the last...
00:14:09.000 It was a cram course.
00:14:11.000 But they're all moving into America because of the tariffs. 0.88
00:14:15.000 And I don't think people have appreciated it.
00:14:18.000 Some people do.
00:14:19.000 Some of the smart people do.
00:14:20.000 So we have more money coming in.
00:14:23.000 It's really an amazing thing.
00:14:24.000 We have...
00:14:25.000 More money being invested in the United States now than at any time ever before in our history, and it's not even close.
00:14:31.000 And I think the real number could be 9 or 10 trillion.
00:14:34.000 We don't know everybody that's doing it.
00:14:36.000 We have many.
00:14:36.000 I just heard about a plant that's being built right now, a very, very top-of-the-line company, and they didn't come to the White House.
00:14:43.000 They're just doing it because they're making it, because if they build here, there are no tariffs.
00:14:48.000 And this is the big market.
00:14:50.000 This is the market.
00:14:51.000 That sets us apart from it.
00:14:52.000 This is the market.
00:14:53.000 Where everyone wants to be.
00:14:55.000 Now, if I didn't come here and do this, all of a sudden we wouldn't be the market where everyone wants to be.
00:15:00.000 So we're able to do it in time.
00:15:01.000 But we're going to have a great announcement.
00:15:03.000 And I'm not necessarily saying it's on trade.
00:15:07.000 Going to the beginning, we're going to have a great announcement over the next few days.
00:15:10.000 An announcement that will be so incredible, so positive.
00:15:15.000 And I'm not saying, I don't want you to think it's necessarily on trade.
00:15:19.000 Just to finish, we also have Because everyone says, when, when, when are you going to sign deals?
00:15:24.000 We don't have to sign deals.
00:15:26.000 We could sign 25 deals right now, Howard, if we wanted.
00:15:30.000 We don't have to sign deals.
00:15:31.000 They have to sign deals with us.
00:15:32.000 They want a piece of our market.
00:15:34.000 We don't want a piece of their market.
00:15:36.000 We don't care about their market.
00:15:37.000 They want a piece of our market.
00:15:39.000 So we can just sit down, and I'll do this at some point over the next two weeks, and I'll sit with Howard and Scott and with our great vice president who has done...
00:15:49.000 A really good job.
00:15:51.000 We have some good news to report on a lot of fronts.
00:15:53.000 But J.D. will be there, and Marco, and we're going to sit down, and we're going to put very fair numbers down, and we're going to say, here's what this country, what we want, and congratulations, we have a deal.
00:16:06.000 And they'll either say, great, and they'll start shopping, or they'll say, not good, we're not going to do it.
00:16:13.000 And I say, that's okay, you don't have to shop.
00:16:15.000 Now, we may think...
00:16:16.000 Well, they have a right, you know, that maybe we were a little bit wrong, so we'll adjust it.
00:16:21.000 And then you people will say, oh, it's so chaotic.
00:16:24.000 No, we're flexible.
00:16:25.000 But we'll sit down and we'll, at some point, in some cases, we'll sign some deals.
00:16:30.000 It's much less important than what I'm talking about.
00:16:33.000 For the most part, we're just going to put down a number and say, this is what you're going to pay to shop.
00:16:37.000 And it's going to be a very fair number.
00:16:38.000 It'll be a low number.
00:16:39.000 We're not looking to hurt countries.
00:16:40.000 We want to help countries.
00:16:42.000 We want to be friendly with countries.
00:16:44.000 But you keep writing about deals, deals.
00:16:46.000 When are we going to sign?
00:16:47.000 It's very simple.
00:16:48.000 We're going to say, in some cases, we want you to open up your country.
00:16:53.000 In some cases, we want you to drop your tariffs.
00:16:56.000 I mean, India, as an example, is one of the highest tariffs in the world.
00:16:59.000 We're not going to put up with that.
00:17:01.000 And they've agreed already to drop it.
00:17:03.000 They'll drop it to nothing.
00:17:04.000 They've already agreed.
00:17:05.000 They would have never done that for anybody else but me.
00:17:08.000 So we're going to put down some numbers, and we're going to say, Our country is open for business, and they're going to come in, and they're going to pay for the privilege of being able to shop in the United States of America. 0.73
00:17:23.000 It's very simple.
00:17:24.000 It's very simple.
00:17:25.000 So I wish they'd keep, you know, stop asking, how many deals are you signing this week?
00:17:30.000 Because one day we'll come and we'll give you 100 deals.
00:17:33.000 And they don't have to sign.
00:17:35.000 All they have to do is say, oh, we'll start sending our ships right now to pick up whatever we want or to bring whatever we want.
00:17:43.000 It's very, very simple.
00:17:44.000 And I think my people haven't made it clear.
00:17:46.000 We will sign some deals.
00:17:48.000 But much bigger than that is we're going to put down the price.
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00:18:55.000 President Trump is continuing on with his Oval Office meeting with Mark Carney, Prime Minister of Canada.
00:19:02.000 We are joined by the great Alex Marlowe, editor-in-chief of Breitbart News.
00:19:10.000 Alex, thank you so much for taking the time today.
00:19:13.000 So much news just erupting this morning.
00:19:16.000 President Trump is still meeting with Prime Minister Carney in the Oval, talking about doubling down that he wants to make Canada a 51st state, but they're there ostensibly to talk about a trade deal.
00:19:28.000 He says the Houthis have admitted defeat, that there's some sort of detente that's been reached there.
00:19:35.000 We're not going to be striking the Houthis.
00:19:36.000 He's also announced there is a...
00:19:39.000 Massive news that's going to be announced on Thursday or Friday, it looks like.
00:19:44.000 He said it's as big as it gets.
00:19:46.000 Your initial reaction, I know it's ongoing, what do you make of this meeting between Canada's new Prime Minister and President Trump in the Oval?
00:19:56.000 Andrew, thanks for having me.
00:19:57.000 I appreciate you and the whole Charlie Kirk team.
00:19:59.000 I would start with Carney.
00:20:02.000 I think what's most interesting here is that Trump is, of course, a...
00:20:08.000 Negotiator par excellence.
00:20:09.000 It's one of his key identifying characteristics.
00:20:13.000 And one thing that's interesting about having a liberal and a guy who knows the money world very well, which is what Carney's background is.
00:20:20.000 And I think Carney comes off as a total idiot, but he did have a lot of success in high finance.
00:20:24.000 So I'm sure he's at least fluent on economic stuff.
00:20:28.000 The fact that he is a political opponent ideologically to Trump I think actually makes things easier to negotiate because the name of the game for Trump is to try to get more support for the United States from Canada when it comes to in particular energy production where they slow walk a lot of energy production and get more favorable trade deals to make sure that they're securing their border and making sure that that is another avenue for illegal immigration into our country.
00:20:55.000 And perhaps most relevant here is that China has co-opted Canada in many ways, and Carney's allowed for that to happen. 0.67
00:21:01.000 They tried to intervene in that election on Carney's behalf.
00:21:04.000 There were Canadians who were essentially, I believe, killed in China over petty drug issues during the run-up to the election, and Carney was silent on this stuff.
00:21:13.000 Trump's going to hate all that.
00:21:14.000 None of that is going to be said directly to him in his first meeting.
00:21:17.000 Trump's going to be very classy.
00:21:18.000 But Trump is in a position where he can really negotiate hard with Carney.
00:21:22.000 If he was with Pierre Poiliev, who was just starting off and was the first conservative government in 10 years in Canada, that would have been a much harder negotiating position for Trump, who really would like Poiliev to succeed.
00:21:33.000 This is a win-win for Trump with Carney.
00:21:35.000 Either he's going to dominate Trump and get to be the alpha, or even better, they'll work together.
00:21:39.000 Trump will slay another liberal dragon and convince the world that he is the premium negotiator of our time.
00:21:45.000 That's, I think, a really smart insight, Alex, that having an ideological foe across the table.
00:21:55.000 Trump is almost better in that setting.
00:21:57.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:21:58.000 And it means the dividing lines are very clear.
00:22:00.000 We know where we agree.
00:22:02.000 We know where we disagree.
00:22:03.000 And it allows for a more honest back and forth in some ways.
00:22:07.000 It's just easier, for lack of a better expression.
00:22:09.000 Yeah, I think you're 100% right.
00:22:13.000 I'm sitting there.
00:22:14.000 Candidly, I do not want Canada as a 51st state. 0.61
00:22:17.000 We don't need another California-esque voting bloc in America.
00:22:22.000 But Trump's sitting there going like, I think it would be great for Canada.
00:22:29.000 It would be a big tax cut right in front of the prime minister.
00:22:31.000 And then the prime minister says...
00:22:32.000 It's not for sale.
00:22:34.000 And Trump still sits there and goes, never say never.
00:22:37.000 I'm a real estate guy.
00:22:38.000 Never say never.
00:22:39.000 A pretty striking moment there.
00:22:43.000 Alex, do you just chalk this up to just Trump's constant pushing forward in a negotiation where he doesn't concede ground until the final moment?
00:22:53.000 As a news person first, I'll try to give you my analysis after, but as a news person first, I just think it's so sensational.
00:22:59.000 I love it.
00:22:59.000 Whenever Trump does this stuff, Trump, first of all, he trolls everyone, even the most powerful people in the world.
00:23:05.000 We all need that.
00:23:06.000 I just think that it's good for the human spirit to have to defend yourself, and you should not.
00:23:11.000 Life is not easy.
00:23:12.000 It isn't for anyone.
00:23:13.000 And Donald Trump can tell you that.
00:23:15.000 Most powerful guy in the last hundred years in the world.
00:23:17.000 And still, they make his life difficult for him every second.
00:23:20.000 So it is, I like that.
00:23:22.000 He makes us reassess the way things are, even things that we take as fundamental, is that Canada is just going to be Canada forever and there's nothing we can do about it.
00:23:31.000 Well, he sits around and thinks, well, why is that?
00:23:34.000 Maybe not.
00:23:35.000 Maybe they need to be the 51st state.
00:23:37.000 I think if you did it, Andrew, you'd have to break it up three ways.
00:23:39.000 You'd have to leave part of the liberals up there, the real left flank.
00:23:43.000 And then you'd maybe get two more states.
00:23:45.000 It'd be like 51st and 52nd state.
00:23:47.000 Do I honestly think Trump's going to do that?
00:23:49.000 No, I don't.
00:23:50.000 But him continuing to...
00:23:54.000 It's an intimidation tactic.
00:23:56.000 It's a trolling tactic.
00:23:56.000 It gets you off your game.
00:23:58.000 He knows exactly what he's doing, and I'm absolutely here for it.
00:24:01.000 I think that's smart.
00:24:02.000 I mean, listen, as somebody who doesn't want Canada, I can concede that Alberta would be a great addition.
00:24:10.000 I would take Alberta and Oil Sands.
00:24:13.000 But you see this pattern, and this can come up in any context of whatever story we talk about today.
00:24:18.000 Trump likes to get the announcement going first.
00:24:20.000 He likes to play the whole...
00:24:21.000 He doesn't play the whole chess game at once.
00:24:23.000 It's not a poker game where you've got three or four moves.
00:24:26.000 He plays it like a chess game.
00:24:27.000 He plays it as if there are 50 moves.
00:24:29.000 And he'll throw something out there, and he'll just see how you react to that.
00:24:32.000 And then he can adjust his strategy accordingly.
00:24:35.000 So for all these people who mock Trump as not playing chess, he literally plays chess.
00:24:38.000 Everyone else plays, you know, war, where you've got one move.
00:24:42.000 It's the...
00:24:42.000 No, Trump plays a 50-move game.
00:24:45.000 Yeah, it's diplomatic brinksmanship, and I think it's wildly entertaining.
00:24:50.000 I do think that's probably why Mark Carney is the Prime Minister of Canada right now, instead of Pierre Poilier, or however you say his French name, who lost his own election.
00:25:00.000 I just got it.
00:25:01.000 I think it's Poilier.
00:25:02.000 It took me about three months.
00:25:03.000 Poilier.
00:25:03.000 Yeah, I think so.
00:25:05.000 The other breaking news this morning that I want to hit with you, Alex, is Tom Tellis is officially saying to reporters now that, and he's informed the...
00:25:14.000 He is going to not support Ed Martin as U.S. Attorney in the District of Columbia.
00:25:20.000 Let's go ahead and play 224.
00:25:22.000 He is, I don't believe he's being advanced to the markup.
00:25:26.000 And I met with Mr. Martin.
00:25:28.000 He seems like a good man.
00:25:31.000 Most of my concerns related to January 6th, and he built a compelling case on some of the 1512 prosecutions that were probably key to the moment bad decisions, but where we probably...
00:25:46.000 I have a difference.
00:25:47.000 I think anybody that breached the perimeter should have been in prison for some period of time.
00:25:51.000 Whether it's 30 days or three years is debatable.
00:25:53.000 But I have no tolerance for anybody who entered the building on January the 6th.
00:25:58.000 And that's probably where most of the friction was.
00:26:00.000 So the difference wasn't that they should be charged, in my estimation.
00:26:04.000 It's by how much.
00:26:05.000 And I've indicated to the White House I wouldn't support his nomination.
00:26:08.000 So, Alex, Tom Tillis is a no.
00:26:11.000 There's not very much margin for error here in the Senate.
00:26:14.000 Tell us, a reminder for our audience, if Ed Martin is not confirmed by Senate Republicans before May 20th, then Trump-hating Judge Boasberg gets to choose the replacement.
00:26:25.000 Yeah, that's the story.
00:26:26.000 This is not a great situation here because it's a very powerful job that Ed Martin's got.
00:26:31.000 Ed Martin's a great guy.
00:26:32.000 Ed Martin was, when I was on Sirius XM, he was one of my regular fill-in radio hosts.
00:26:37.000 He is completely pure of heart, pure MAGA, and a seasoned veteran of the conservative movement, which is, for me, the best.
00:26:44.000 People who have been consistently, consistently down for the cause for decades.
00:26:49.000 Those are the exact type of people you want to elevate to these top jobs.
00:26:52.000 And the U.S. Attorney for D.C. It's not only a local district attorney.
00:26:59.000 It's someone who gets to prosecute D.C. crimes, clean up crime at a federal level, and thus really kind of touching on crime all over the world.
00:27:06.000 And he can really focus in on government corruption.
00:27:08.000 He's the perfect guy to do this.
00:27:10.000 And so this is really destructive from Senator Tillis if he is not bluffing here.
00:27:15.000 And he said flat out he's a no.
00:27:17.000 And I've been telling this to media a lot.
00:27:19.000 He says that probably...
00:27:23.000 He's got others with him.
00:27:25.000 This is the threat that's being made.
00:27:27.000 So a lot of people are suggesting maybe we should bring this to the floor, make Tillis put his money where his mouth is, see who else is out there who would vote no to stop this.
00:27:36.000 But the obsession with January the 6th, there were so many people who were enthusiastic about supporting Trump on that day.
00:27:42.000 I'm not a big January the 6th guy, Andrew.
00:27:44.000 I wasn't there.
00:27:45.000 I didn't think the stuff that went down was great.
00:27:47.000 But it's the, when can we move on from this?
00:27:49.000 This should not be a deal-breaker in this modern times after the overreaction.
00:27:53.000 To give the left a scalp here would just be truly idiotic.
00:27:57.000 And if anyone feels like they can reach Senator Tillis at this point, you've got to make the move fast.
00:28:02.000 But I am concerned that this is some sort of a bigger leadership coup that's going on from elements of Senate leadership.
00:28:07.000 I'm just trying to read between the lines.
00:28:08.000 I don't know who specifically.
00:28:10.000 McConnell comes to mind, obviously.
00:28:11.000 But there's something going on here beyond Tillis.
00:28:14.000 Yeah, let's go ahead and throw up. 0.96
00:28:17.000 We have a number for the audience to call his office.
00:28:20.000 I think we need to absolutely melt his phone lines down.
00:28:23.000 This is Senator Tom Tillis' office number.
00:28:25.000 Please call him.
00:28:26.000 Tell him, be respectful, be polite.
00:28:29.000 But call Senator Tom Tillis.
00:28:31.000 Let him know that we want Ed Martin in as U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia.
00:28:36.000 We can't give this to a Democrat.
00:28:38.000 It's a completely unnecessary.
00:28:41.000 Loss.
00:28:42.000 We'll be ceding ground.
00:28:43.000 We need to be attacking and taking ground.
00:28:46.000 So go ahead and please call that number.
00:28:49.000 And the number is 919-856.
00:28:55.000 That's 919-856-4630.
00:29:00.000 And Alex, I love that you have a personal relationship with Ed Martin.
00:29:03.000 I think that's fantastic.
00:29:06.000 The bottom line is, whatever your thoughts are on Ed Martin, whether you think he's too radical on J6, I'm a little bit more passionate about J6.
00:29:15.000 I think a lot of people got caught up in a frenzied moment.
00:29:20.000 Okay, sure.
00:29:21.000 But grandmas do not need to be going to prison. 1.00
00:29:24.000 They don't need to be using the Enron statute to lock up people that were basically peaceful, took a selfie and walked out.
00:29:33.000 So, yeah, 30 seconds, Alex.
00:29:35.000 Yeah, of course.
00:29:37.000 I mean, and the fact that I wasn't like a huge J6 booster should speak more.
00:29:41.000 I think that even lends more credibility here.
00:29:44.000 Everyone was overcharged and he wasn't violent.
00:29:46.000 And Martin's not a violent person.
00:29:48.000 And if you were going to have a threshold, it would have to be violence.
00:29:51.000 And that was what J.D. Vance established.
00:29:52.000 Trump wiped that out.
00:29:53.000 And he said that we don't even care.
00:29:55.000 We're letting everyone out.
00:29:56.000 And which I think was wise in a lot of ways.
00:29:59.000 Martin is not a threat for violence.
00:30:01.000 He's an outsider who's ready to shake stuff up.
00:30:04.000 The deep state's afraid of them, and that's why they want them out.
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00:31:09.000 All right, Alex, let's go through some of these moments.
00:31:12.000 I just have to play this because it's so brilliant.
00:31:15.000 233, this is on Canada becoming the 51st state.
00:31:18.000 233.
00:31:19.000 President, you have said that Canada should become the 51st state.
00:31:23.000 I believe it would be a massive tax cut for the Canadian citizens.
00:31:28.000 You get free military, you get tremendous medical cares and other things.
00:31:34.000 There would be a lot of advantages.
00:31:37.000 It won't stop, Alex.
00:31:38.000 And then I'll play one more clip just in the interest of time.
00:31:42.000 236 says India has already dropped, agreed to drop all of their tariffs.
00:31:47.000 We're going to say, in some cases, we want you to open up your country.
00:31:52.000 In some cases, we want you to drop your tariffs.
00:31:54.000 I mean, India, as an example, is one of the highest tariffs in the world.
00:31:58.000 We're not going to put up with that.
00:32:00.000 And they've agreed already to drop it.
00:32:02.000 They'll drop it to nothing.
00:32:03.000 They've already agreed.
00:32:04.000 They would have never done that for anybody else but me.
00:32:07.000 Alex Marlow, your reaction.
00:32:09.000 Yeah, let me...
00:32:10.000 First of all, let's take the 51st state.
00:32:12.000 Let's take it literally for a second.
00:32:13.000 So if the benefit for Canada would be they'd get American military might...
00:32:18.000 And they would get the cohesion with our country, which we have a lot of shared values.
00:32:24.000 And it feels like something that could be benefit for them in terms of national security, especially as they've been infiltrated from China.
00:32:31.000 And we have much more robust law enforcement that can help them crack down on some of the crime that they have, that they're starting to deal with illegal immigration, etc.
00:32:38.000 With us, it also helps out with national security because Canada is sort of an unknown because they're weaker about dealing with that stuff.
00:32:43.000 China is encroaching that country with bothers us. 0.99
00:32:45.000 We can finally get the fentanyl under...
00:32:47.000 And just generally, expanding and dominating the continent sounds very appealing, but the main thing there is energy.
00:32:53.000 It is energy.
00:32:54.000 Trump cares mostly about energy.
00:32:56.000 He understands in the AI arms race we're in, Andrew, we need more energy than ever.
00:33:00.000 We're not getting this connection.
00:33:01.000 If we're going to beat China at AI, then we need to be able to get every single ounce of energy out of the ground.
00:33:07.000 And Canada moves very slowly on this.
00:33:09.000 Joe Biden moves slowly on this.
00:33:10.000 And if we can control it ourselves, I think Trump sees it as a benefit.
00:33:14.000 Now, again, I don't think it's going to happen, but I think it's worth...
00:33:17.000 Taking it seriously.
00:33:17.000 And if you look at India and our ties to India that are going to, I think, expand quite a bit during Trump's administration.
00:33:25.000 Again, think of China.
00:33:27.000 Think of China.
00:33:27.000 If we are working closely with India, we become far less dependent on China for some of those cheaper goods that we are dependent on, that we need.
00:33:35.000 And building up their manufacturing base, it's a realistic way to get these major companies pulled away from China.
00:33:41.000 If we can't get them to do all their business in manufacturing, for example, here.
00:33:45.000 Closer ties with India is beneficial to us and to India and hurts China. 0.98
00:33:50.000 That's how Trump is playing his chess game.
00:33:52.000 Yeah, I agree with you, Alex.
00:33:53.000 I think to get the oil sands in Canada, I'm not taking it literal, but I appreciate your point.
00:34:01.000 That being said, Canada is already part of Five Eyes.
00:34:04.000 We're very integrated in a lot of ways.
00:34:06.000 This should be an obvious way to...
00:34:10.000 Bring our countries closer together, cooperate closer together.
00:34:13.000 Trump is playing his leverage hand.
00:34:15.000 But again, Canada can be a massive ally for us as well as India.
00:34:20.000 You start linking some of these countries together and boxing China out, there's going to be a lot more leverage on China if we can hammer out some of these trade deals. 0.60
00:34:30.000 Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand.
00:34:34.000 Australia is going to stay close to us.
00:34:37.000 30 seconds, Alex.
00:34:38.000 Where do you see this ending?
00:34:40.000 Trade deals imminent?
00:34:41.000 Or is he going to slow walk this?
00:34:44.000 Yeah, I think this is why he's playing chess.
00:34:46.000 I don't think he's got all the deals completely mapped out in his head, but he knows, I think, where it's most important to make a deal.
00:34:52.000 He knows where he's got the most leverage.
00:34:54.000 And again, whenever you're hearing him speak, we're hearing about China.
00:34:58.000 That's his main concern.
00:34:59.000 He was hip to this before any other major conservative.
00:35:02.000 And so all he's trying to do, all the moves he's going to make, if he feels like he's protecting us from being dependent on China, then he's going to cut deals.
00:35:09.000 And if he doesn't feel like he takes a step in that direction, he won't.
00:35:12.000 All right, Alex Marlow, the great Alex Marlow, editor-in-chief of Breitbart News.
00:35:17.000 Check him out.
00:35:18.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:35:19.000 Talk to you soon.