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00:01:09.000All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:11.000I'm Andrew Colvett, joined by Mikey McCoy in the studio.
00:01:16.000We get you like, what, is this the third time this week?
00:02:41.000And thanks to our friends at Real America's Voice DC for making a home for Blake here today.
00:02:47.000I want to get into, I'm going to get into this idea that they are listening to you.
00:02:53.000I think there was a sense in the last couple of weeks that the administration was messaging, their messaging was off, that they weren't on point, they weren't focused.
00:03:04.000And I believe that we are seeing every single sign that you could ask for that they are listening.
00:03:11.000This is not, you know, success moving on situation, but I want to hammer it home because now there is multiple pieces of evidence that we can glean from to show that there has been a messaging pivot, that they hear the concerns, the consternations, the anxieties of the base.
00:03:30.000The people that watch this show, the people that watch War Room before it, that listen to us on the radio, they are hearing you.
00:03:37.000And I think it's really, really important that we give credit where it's due.
00:03:41.000You can't just be a voice that is complaining all the time without offering solutions, without also giving praise where it's due.
00:04:48.000Because we flooded the country with 30 million illegal immigrants who were taking houses that ought by right go to American citizens.
00:04:56.000And at the same time, we weren't building enough new houses to begin with, even for the population that we had.
00:05:02.000So what we're doing is trying to make it easier to build houses, trying to make it easier to build factories and things like that so that people have good jobs.
00:05:09.000We're also getting all of those illegal aliens out of our country.
00:05:13.000And you're already seeing it start to pay some dividends.
00:05:17.000So what are those dividends that we're seeing?
00:05:20.000Blake, I want you to chime in here on this.
00:05:51.000It's in rentals, which I think I think we're flagging is what have we complained about so much over the last few years?
00:05:58.000We've complained about illegal immigration.
00:06:00.000We've complained about too much immigration.
00:06:02.000And those people who are coming in, who are coming in as illegal immigrants, as guest workers, as low-wage labor, they're typically going into the rental market.
00:06:11.000And so if we're seeing declines there, that's probably an indication that, you know, we recently had the news that the foreign-born population of the U.S. is actually falling for the first time, basically in living memory.
00:06:23.000And that's going to have an impact on the housing market, which has so consistently been able to count on just kind of an endless flood of new people from abroad.
00:06:31.000And if we can lower the constant demand pressure on housing, which we've seen drive up prices in Canada, in the U.K., in all a bunch of other countries, we'll hopefully get lower rental prices.
00:06:43.000And that will translate over time into lower prices for a normal entry-level home.
00:06:48.000All of, you know, housing kind of all flows together in terms of its impact on prices.
00:06:55.000Yeah, and I think, to your point, I think we've seen approximately 2 million, maybe slightly more, deportations and self-deportations.
00:07:04.000So we actually have less people in the continental U.S. than we had at the beginning of Trump's presidency, which is huge.
00:07:12.000And that isn't despite the fact that we're still allowing for 1 to 1.2 million new green cards that are legal immigrants to the country every year.
00:07:20.000A number that I think should be at least slashed in half, if not a full moratorium.
00:07:24.000I would be totally down with a full moratorium.
00:07:27.000But it's not just surging new homes where the admin is listening to us.
00:07:35.000This is Harmeet Dillon, Assistant Attorney General.
00:07:38.000She's in the civil rights office, and she saw all of the chaos, all of the violence that came out of UC Berkeley.
00:07:45.000And I want to give her kudos here because she's actually taking the initiative and she's going after these thugs that targeted our Turning Point USA event at UC Berkeley.
00:07:59.000The chapter here is called by any means necessary.
00:08:02.000I've sued them and been involved with them as well.
00:08:04.000But there's also UC Berkeley is legally on notice based on the prior litigation and the settlement about this exact type of event.
00:08:14.000And third, at the Civil Rights Division, we're in charge of how the police treat the citizens.
00:08:19.000And the police in Berkeley seem to think this is kind of a sport or a joke.
00:08:24.000Equal protection under the Constitution requires that you treat citizens equally, including if you don't agree with their viewpoints.
00:08:30.000And so at all three levels and maybe more, we have some serious problems and we're going to be deeply engaged in a legal action here, I suspect, very soon.
00:08:39.000And not only that, and you got to remember, the gentleman that pulled the trigger and assassinated our friend Charlie Kirk had Bella Chow and Hay Fascist catch on bullet casings that authorities collected.
00:09:11.000Marco Rubio, State Department, Secretary of State, has designated Antifa as a foreign terrorist organization.
00:09:18.000And we're going to bring in Andy No, who is probably the most accomplished, longest-running journalist in the space covering Antifa and all its different permutations and geographies.
00:09:32.000And he's going to explain why this is important from a legal standpoint.
00:09:37.000Because as he will explain, there is one thing to sign an executive order designating Antifa as a domestic terror organization, but this unlocks extraordinary legal powers when you're able to say, hey, they're a foreign terrorist organization as well.
00:09:53.000So across the board, we've got more examples.
00:09:56.000We are seeing the admin take action on the things that we've been talking about on the show that you've been talking about and emailing us about.
00:10:06.000This is Lane Schoenberger, Chief Investment Officer and Founding Partner of YReFi.
00:10:11.000It has been an honor and a privilege to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to endorse us.
00:10:16.000His endorsement means the world to us, and we look forward to continuing our partnership with Turning Point for years to come.
00:10:22.000Now, here Charlie, in his own words, tell you about YReFi.
00:10:26.000I'm going to tell you guys about whyRefi.com.
00:12:04.000We're focusing relentlessly on affordability.
00:12:06.000So President Trump's working to bring down the cost of living even more than he already has.
00:12:11.000So Thanksgiving meals are going to be 25% cheaper.
00:12:14.000But President Trump is not content with that.
00:12:16.000He is fighting to bring down the cost of every single consumer and household good.
00:12:20.000And the tax bill is going to be a huge part of this.
00:12:22.000Because when we make life more affordable for our companies, for domestic industry, for domestic manufacturing, with 100% expensing, with the largest tax cuts in history, then prices are going to keep coming down.
00:13:31.000The biggest expense for the vast majority of people is their housing.
00:13:35.000And right now, the cost to get a rental in the United States is going down everywhere in the country.
00:13:42.000In the long run, people will feel that.
00:13:45.000The drop is actually not a lot, but we also have inflation.
00:13:48.000So if you're holding even, if the price of housing is holding even and inflation is going up a few percent a year, that's effectively like a 3% cut in the cost of housing.
00:13:59.000And people have seen it only go up for years and years on end, especially since COVID.
00:14:04.000And I think we're seeing where once you stop the endless flood of demand into the country, things are getting better.
00:14:15.000I'm actually more interested in seeing rents drop, but then also how many homes we're building, interest rates dropping.
00:14:22.000The biggest win for the economy and for young people in general is just deportations.
00:14:28.0002 million plus deportations, self-deportations.
00:14:31.000This has a direct impact on costs going down, on rent going down, on affordability just in general in the United States.
00:14:40.000But then also as a young couple, there's something about buying a house, being able to walk around your neighborhood safely with the, you know, back in your psyche, knowing that there's less illegals now.
00:14:51.000There's less criminals in this country now.
00:14:56.000I want to really praise Harmeet Dylan and also the FBI who put out the website for tips.
00:15:02.000At the same time as we're deporting all these illegals and criminals in our country, we want to find the active criminals that are part of Antifa.
00:15:11.000And we're going to keep talking about that later in the show.
00:15:31.000You know, Turning Point USA was getting spied on.
00:15:34.000And now the FBI is putting out tip lines to target to find Antifa thugs that were attacking, assaulting, and trying to disrupt our event in UC Berkeley.
00:15:47.000Yeah, and how fast they came after the January 6ers.
00:15:51.000We're going to come after the real Antifa criminals fast.
00:15:55.000We're going to find each and every one of you with geo-tracking.
00:15:59.000If you spit on our attendees, if you attacked our attendees, like this is disgusting stuff that happened two months after Charlie's assassination at our event at Berkeley.
00:16:10.000We're very upset, and we want to see accountability and justice.
00:16:14.000You know, Blake, just real quick, actually, Danny on our team makes a good point that according to the polls, you know, you're right, rent is probably a larger bucket of cost for the average person.
00:16:27.000But from a pure polling standpoint, 378, if you show this, it's bipartisan that the number one issue for most people is inflation cost of living, and that is cost of goods, groceries, gas, those sorts of things tend to leave potentially a bigger emotional impact.
00:18:22.000I haven't seen you for many moons now, Andy, but it's great to see you and great to have you.
00:18:27.000And you've been doing tremendous work covering, I mean, you've always done tremendous work covering Antifa.
00:18:33.000You've been one of the most fearless journalists about this.
00:18:36.000And you have a new piece where you're talking about this huge development where Secretary of State Marco Rubio and the Trump administration have designated them as a foreign terrorist organization.
00:18:48.000And you have a great write-up on the Postmillennial about this.
00:18:52.000Explain to our audience that might be a little unsure of why this is important versus the previous executive order that designated a domestic terror group.
00:19:04.000So when I spoke at the White House roundtable on Antifa, one of the things that I suggested to the president and his cabinet that they could do is to look at the international networks and organizations within Antifa and to designate the applicable ones as FTOs, foreign terrorist organizations.
00:19:26.000And why that's so important is because unlike the categorization of domestic terrorism, there's actually legislation in a legal category of a foreign terrorist organization.
00:19:41.000And the announcement from Secretary Rubio with Antifa Ost and three other European-based Antifa groups and networks being declared FTOs, these are now on the same category as ISIS, as al-Qaeda, and other proscribed terrorist groups that your listeners and viewers may have heard of.
00:20:02.000This is very different than when people in the administration talking about Antifa being domestic terrorists.
00:20:09.000And the key difference is that there's actually no legal category in the U.S. for domestic terrorism in terms of like a group cannot be declared that way and then be banned.
00:20:23.000So the executive order describes Antifa as such, but it's not like a law that would ban providing support for Antifa domestically or to have membership in a violent group that's within the Antifa network.
00:20:38.000And that's because of First Amendment protections.
00:20:40.000I'm speaking to you from London now and in my travels in the UK and Europe.
00:20:45.000When I speak to liberals or leftists, they say, well, how come the U.S. hasn't banned the KKK or like neo-Nazi groups?
00:20:56.000And the reason is the First Amendment has been interpreted through the courts to provide very wide protections for associations.
00:21:05.000But that doesn't mean that the executive orders and what the administration now is doing domestically doesn't matter.
00:21:12.000There's been, very importantly, at the federal level, the DOJ was able to get two indictments against alleged members of an Antifa cell in North Texas indicted on providing material support to terrorism.
00:21:27.000You see, so like that's where that focus that the administration has on antifun terrorism matters rather than the label of domestic terrorists.
00:21:38.000But going back to FTO, it's the first time in U.S. history that the U.S. government has declared any Antifa-associated group as being officially terrorists.
00:21:52.000So, yeah, and you write in the post-millennial, you said the FTO label is not symbolic.
00:21:57.000It's a legal tool under U.S. law enabling sanctions against individuals associated with the groups, asset freezes, travel bans, and criminal penalties for membership or providing material support.
00:22:08.000In short, it's how it's now a federal crime to belong to or assist the four violent Antifa anarchist groups that were labeled.
00:22:16.000And there's some in Greece, in Italy, in Germany that you outline in there.
00:22:21.000Now, I want to bring our attention back domestically, though, Andy, because at this UC Berkeley event, I noticed that there, at least from the videos I saw, there wasn't many of these Antifa thugs wearing black block, right?
00:22:56.000And what can you just explain to us about the hierarchy question?
00:23:01.000So for the last five years, within the organized militant Antifa American groups, such as Rose City Antifa and other groups that are within the Torch Antifa Network in cities like New York, Asheville, Philadelphia, they've moved more underground.
00:23:17.000You'll see that they have been posting a lot less on social media.
00:23:21.000When they have had a presence at direct actions, they no longer show the logos and symbols of their particular organization.
00:23:30.000And I think that's because they've seen in some jurisdictions there's been ongoing domestic terrorism investigations, like in the state of Georgia, where 61 people were indicted on domestic terrorism charges.
00:23:47.000There was a cell in San Diego County where 12 members of SoCal Antifa were convicted, either at trial or through plea deals.
00:24:00.000So they're trying to go underground and bunker down until there's a Democrat administration where they can come out.
00:24:08.000But whether or not they're underground, it doesn't mean they don't exist and they don't organize.
00:24:13.000And a lot of the terrorism that Antifa does involves people who are actually not going to their meetings or have not been through their particular cell vetting process.
00:24:24.000And that's the decentralized nature of a lot of terrorist groups, actually internationally as well, in that they put out the ideology online, or there are certain social media accounts that put out the propaganda.
00:24:38.000And the goal is to get fellow travelers, sympathizers, or ideologues to go and do something, just show up, show up, and commit violence.
00:24:48.000And I think that was seen in some part at what happened at UC Berkeley.
00:24:55.000They call the targets fascists and Nazis and use inflammatory rhetoric and lies and get a mob to show up and create an environment where people, their comrades, are encouraged to commit assaults or intimidate or harass or to rob their particular targets.
00:25:14.000And going back to the four groups that have been declared FTOs, I think it's important to talk about what they have done in Europe.
00:25:22.000These groups have not been proscribed because of ideology.
00:25:28.000And if people read my article piece or they look at what the State Department put out, one of the groups is Antifa Ost, which translates to Antifa Eats.
00:25:37.000And they're a Germany-based Antifa group where their method of attack is to mob beat their targets with batons and hammers.
00:25:46.000And they go specifically for breaking bones, smashing skulls open.
00:25:51.000Some of their members have been convicted of aggravated assault and attempted murder.
00:25:57.000Some of the other groups that were declared FTOs based in Italy and in Greece have been involved in bombings, in shootings, shootings of CEOs, and bombings of police stations.
00:26:11.000And yet we still see some leftists coming out, unsurprisingly, to defend Antifa in the wake of this announcement from the State Department.
00:26:20.000Yeah, looking at the FBI's definition for terrorism, it's the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce the government, civilian population, or any segment thereof in furtherance of political or social objectives.
00:26:33.000So there, if it's the definition of terrorism, that's exactly what we saw at UC Berkeley.
00:26:37.000Charlie used to always say that people would hide their face when they secretly know that what they're doing is wrong.
00:26:43.000And so these people know that what they're doing is wrong.
00:26:45.000They secretly know that this is terrorism.
00:26:47.000But my question to you, Andy, is how are these people communicating with each other?
00:26:52.000They have a tendency to show up in mass numbers.
00:27:00.000I just don't feel like we always get the answers to this.
00:27:02.000I'd love any insight that you have on that.
00:27:04.000So the communications amongst the cells is primarily done through signal.
00:27:09.000And we can know that by looking at what's come out at trials and in criminal indictments.
00:27:15.000Going back to the Texas Terror attack on the ICE facility in Elvirado on the 4th of July, they were able to get into the signal communications of the members of this North Texas Antifa cell, and each one had aliases.
00:27:32.000And in the SoCal Antifa case in San Diego last year, when that went to trial, the evidence came out, Signal was also used.
00:27:39.000That is primarily the mode of communication.
00:27:42.000They use burner phones, aliases, obviously, and then they create ad hoc group chats for different purposes on Signal.
00:27:51.000Regarding the funding, there's always a nexus of registered nonprofits.
00:27:59.000And Azer Nomani has a good piece that came out two days ago on Fox News about one of the nonprofits that was involved in organizing the UC Berkeley direct action.
00:28:14.000But a lot of the funding is also through essentially what is just crowdfunding.
00:28:19.000The extreme far left are great at crowdfunding.
00:28:23.000They create GoFundMes, they have cash app handles, Venmo handles, PayPal even.
00:28:33.000So a lot of it is done in places that law enforcement can track.
00:28:39.000And in my reporting, and what I hope that the FBI starts paying attention to now that they have a directive from the executive that Antifa is domestic are domestic terrorists is to look into the sources of funding.
00:28:56.000We're not talking about dark money and crypto and things like that, although that may be part of it.
00:29:02.000For the most part, it's through people organizing these campaigns and sharing the latency.
00:29:08.000You and your listeners and viewers are familiar with those huge fundraisers to raise bail money for riot suspects.
00:29:14.000I wish we had you for more time, but that's Andy No, reporter for the post-millennial, author of Unmasked, and you can check him out at his Substack No Comment NGO Comet.
00:30:46.000Why do you call the protesters outside terrorists outside of, say, one broken window?
00:30:52.000Well, it's more than one broken window, assaulting cops, spray painting, the death threats that they throw at me, the violent intimidation.
00:30:59.000Don't you think it's bigoted to call all protesters who are outside as terrorists?
00:31:04.000They're mostly white liberals without jobs.
00:31:07.000You're calling all protesters terrorists?
00:31:09.000I'm calling Antifa out there that are anonymizing their identity, sending death threats to my family, smashing windows, and spray painting the campus the entire week leading up to this terrorist.
00:31:20.000A lot of them are just college students who don't agree with the point of view that you're propagating.
00:31:25.000Maybe they should have come to the front of the line and asked a question like you and not acted like somebody in a third world country where they settle their differences with gang violence.
00:31:39.000He was just so great, and it just disgusts me that these parasites are just like, it disgusts me that these parasites in Antifa, like, are basically free in any blue city to roam around and terrorize people.
00:31:54.000And like, it feels trite, and yet the truth is they're basically a modern KKK in the truest sense.
00:32:09.000We have the Ku Klux Klan Act, and what it's designed to do is it's designed to go after groups that intimidate people who want to vote, who want to use their freedom of speech.
00:32:18.000And instead, like we had it used against, I think they used it against friggin' Douglas Mackey because he made a meme that Hillary Clinton didn't like.
00:32:34.000I want to get to a piece of news here, Blake and Mikey, where we talked about Epstein yesterday, and it's been this really beautiful thing to watch because there was an allegation that Jeffrey Epstein said he spent Thanksgiving with President Trump in 2017, which, by the way, I think he was kicked out of Mar-a-Lago in 2007, declared a child predator in 2009.
00:32:59.000And yet, you know, Bill Clinton and all these types kept hanging out with him.
00:33:03.000Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, all these types.
00:33:07.000Larry Summers, apparently, there's a bunch of people that still hung out with him.
00:33:11.000As far as we know, Trump was not one of them.
00:33:14.000Okay, but there's been volley after volley trying to tie President Trump to Jeffrey Epstein and this House Oversight, Democrat House Oversight Committee.
00:33:26.000They leaked these emails trying to do it.
00:33:30.000Now they're deleting them, which is just so rich.
00:35:07.000But it's also just the entire thing is so stupid to go through your head that as president of the United States, Donald Trump would be like able to go anywhere in the United States on a holiday like Thanksgiving, where his every movement is very closely tracked.
00:35:41.000I just, I just think it's amazing that time after time after time.
00:35:45.000So what, I mean, let's track the provenance of this whole debate that we're having.
00:35:50.000So Joe Biden was president for four years.
00:35:53.000We didn't hear a peep about Jeffrey Epstein.
00:35:55.000President Trump becomes president, and the base of the Republican Party starts getting very interested in trying to expose a child predator.
00:36:05.000And, you know, there's some back and forth.
00:36:09.000Let's just say there's a little bit of a row on the right when it comes to what to do with these docs and the base wanting more.
00:36:15.000It's only then that the Democrats are like, hmm, maybe we can hop on here.
00:36:21.000So then James Comer, a Republican, subpoenas the Epstein estate to get these emails.
00:36:27.000They come during a government shutdown.
00:36:30.000They don't coordinate a leak or anything like that, or a release of it.
00:36:35.000They leak three very suspicious, highly selective emails out of a trove of 20,000.
00:36:43.000And every single one of them has basically been debunked, ridiculed, and they have had egg on their face completely as a result of this, including the fact that they redacted the name of Virginia Guffery, who testified under oath that President Trump did nothing wrong.
00:37:01.000And then had, and by the way, we played a clip yesterday of a woman talking about that Virginia Guffery wanted President Trump to be elected because of the transparency with the Jeffrey Epstein case.
00:37:11.000And that was actually her biographer, apparently.