The Charlie Kirk Show - ANTIFA, Epstein, and Thanksgiving

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:11.000 I'm Andrew Colvett, joined by Mikey McCoy in the studio.

00:01:16.000 We get you like, what, is this the third time this week?

00:01:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:01:20.000 Bro.

00:01:22.000 I love it.

00:01:23.000 It's great.

00:01:24.000 Mikey McCoy.

00:01:25.000 We also have Blake Neff.

00:01:28.000 Is it Mikey McCoy or Michael McCoy?

00:01:30.000 Because he can only be one.

00:01:32.000 I don't know what it is actually anymore.

00:01:35.000 Oh, okay.

00:01:36.000 That's how it's going to be.

00:01:37.000 I'm just going to rip the...

00:01:38.000 If that's even your real name, there is a new conspiracy theory that Mikey's name is not Mikey.

00:01:44.000 Well, this is news to me.

00:01:45.000 Question.

00:01:46.000 What does it say on your birth certificate?

00:01:50.000 Michael Thomas McCoy and the real McCoy.

00:01:55.000 You're adding a whole additional name here, Thomas?

00:01:57.000 You just, you know, that sounds suspicious.

00:02:00.000 My middle name is also Thomas.

00:02:02.000 Is it really?

00:02:04.000 Look at us.

00:02:05.000 I always thought it was perfect because when I was becoming a Christian, I was like, I really struggled.

00:02:10.000 So I didn't become a Christian until I was in college.

00:02:12.000 I mean, I was born and baptized Catholic and all that stuff.

00:02:16.000 And when I went to college, I became a Christian.

00:02:18.000 And I struggled with doubts, which I think is a really normal thing to do.

00:02:21.000 And I always thought it was perfect because it was doubting Thomas.

00:02:24.000 There you go.

00:02:25.000 Yeah.

00:02:26.000 Show me the wounds, Lord.

00:02:27.000 Anyways, that was not where I planned to take this first part of the show at all.

00:02:33.000 Anyways, Blake, Blake is still on assignment, traveling the Eastern Seaboard.

00:02:40.000 So we're glad he could make it.

00:02:41.000 And thanks to our friends at Real America's Voice DC for making a home for Blake here today.

00:02:47.000 I want to get into, I'm going to get into this idea that they are listening to you.

00:02:53.000 I think there was a sense in the last couple of weeks that the administration was messaging, their messaging was off, that they weren't on point, they weren't focused.

00:03:04.000 And I believe that we are seeing every single sign that you could ask for that they are listening.

00:03:09.000 Now, more needs to be done.

00:03:11.000 This is not, you know, success moving on situation, but I want to hammer it home because now there is multiple pieces of evidence that we can glean from to show that there has been a messaging pivot, that they hear the concerns, the consternations, the anxieties of the base.

00:03:30.000 The people that watch this show, the people that watch War Room before it, that listen to us on the radio, they are hearing you.

00:03:37.000 And I think it's really, really important that we give credit where it's due.

00:03:41.000 You can't just be a voice that is complaining all the time without offering solutions, without also giving praise where it's due.

00:03:49.000 And so I just want to say that.

00:03:51.000 So we talked a lot about, and I went on Bannon's War Room yesterday.

00:03:55.000 Charlie had given a six-point checklist.

00:04:00.000 It was a punch list of what we need to do to restore the social compact with Gen Z. 0.96

00:04:06.000 And that included mass deportations.

00:04:08.000 That included building 10 million homes, crushing the college cartel, ending H-1B scam, ending diversity visas and lottery. 0.96

00:04:18.000 And then also dramatically reducing legal immigration.

00:04:23.000 Now, we're not on that one yet, but listen to this.

00:04:26.000 So JD, there it is.

00:04:28.000 That's the tweet.

00:04:29.000 So listen to this.

00:04:30.000 JD Vance speaks with Sean Hannity.

00:04:33.000 And listen to this and tell me if you can't also confirm that they have, in fact, got the memo, 353.

00:04:42.000 A lot of young people are saying housing is way too expensive.

00:04:47.000 Why is that?

00:04:48.000 Because we flooded the country with 30 million illegal immigrants who were taking houses that ought by right go to American citizens. 1.00

00:04:56.000 And at the same time, we weren't building enough new houses to begin with, even for the population that we had.

00:05:02.000 So what we're doing is trying to make it easier to build houses, trying to make it easier to build factories and things like that so that people have good jobs.

00:05:09.000 We're also getting all of those illegal aliens out of our country. 0.99

00:05:13.000 And you're already seeing it start to pay some dividends.

00:05:17.000 So what are those dividends that we're seeing?

00:05:20.000 Blake, I want you to chime in here on this.

00:05:21.000 Let's go ahead and show 346.

00:05:23.000 This is U.S. rent prices are declining.

00:05:27.000 We have three months in a row, marking the steepest October decrease in 15 years.

00:05:35.000 Now, Blake, this is not like, this is not huge.

00:05:38.000 I think it's, what is it, down 0.31% month over month in October, but that's the steepest October decrease in 15 years.

00:05:46.000 What do you make of this?

00:05:47.000 Yeah, it's well, so it's a decrease.

00:05:51.000 It's in rentals, which I think I think we're flagging is what have we complained about so much over the last few years?

00:05:58.000 We've complained about illegal immigration. 0.96

00:06:00.000 We've complained about too much immigration. 1.00

00:06:02.000 And those people who are coming in, who are coming in as illegal immigrants, as guest workers, as low-wage labor, they're typically going into the rental market.

00:06:11.000 And so if we're seeing declines there, that's probably an indication that, you know, we recently had the news that the foreign-born population of the U.S. is actually falling for the first time, basically in living memory.

00:06:23.000 And that's going to have an impact on the housing market, which has so consistently been able to count on just kind of an endless flood of new people from abroad.

00:06:31.000 And if we can lower the constant demand pressure on housing, which we've seen drive up prices in Canada, in the U.K., in all a bunch of other countries, we'll hopefully get lower rental prices.

00:06:43.000 And that will translate over time into lower prices for a normal entry-level home.

00:06:48.000 All of, you know, housing kind of all flows together in terms of its impact on prices.

00:06:52.000 And I think we're seeing that now.

00:06:55.000 Yeah, and I think, to your point, I think we've seen approximately 2 million, maybe slightly more, deportations and self-deportations.

00:07:04.000 So we actually have less people in the continental U.S. than we had at the beginning of Trump's presidency, which is huge.

00:07:12.000 And that isn't despite the fact that we're still allowing for 1 to 1.2 million new green cards that are legal immigrants to the country every year.

00:07:20.000 A number that I think should be at least slashed in half, if not a full moratorium.

00:07:24.000 I would be totally down with a full moratorium.

00:07:27.000 But it's not just surging new homes where the admin is listening to us.

00:07:33.000 Let's play 364.

00:07:35.000 This is Harmeet Dillon, Assistant Attorney General.

00:07:38.000 She's in the civil rights office, and she saw all of the chaos, all of the violence that came out of UC Berkeley.

00:07:45.000 And I want to give her kudos here because she's actually taking the initiative and she's going after these thugs that targeted our Turning Point USA event at UC Berkeley.

00:07:55.000 PlayCut 364. 0.73

00:07:56.000 Antifa is a terrorist organization.

00:07:59.000 The chapter here is called by any means necessary.

00:08:02.000 I've sued them and been involved with them as well.

00:08:04.000 But there's also UC Berkeley is legally on notice based on the prior litigation and the settlement about this exact type of event.

00:08:14.000 And third, at the Civil Rights Division, we're in charge of how the police treat the citizens.

00:08:19.000 And the police in Berkeley seem to think this is kind of a sport or a joke.

00:08:24.000 Equal protection under the Constitution requires that you treat citizens equally, including if you don't agree with their viewpoints.

00:08:30.000 And so at all three levels and maybe more, we have some serious problems and we're going to be deeply engaged in a legal action here, I suspect, very soon.

00:08:39.000 And not only that, and you got to remember, the gentleman that pulled the trigger and assassinated our friend Charlie Kirk had Bella Chow and Hay Fascist catch on bullet casings that authorities collected.

00:08:58.000 This is Antifa.

00:08:59.000 These are Antifa slogans.

00:09:00.000 This is this, you know, I'm not saying he was a card-carrying member.

00:09:03.000 I'm saying that these ideologies spread.

00:09:05.000 They're decentralized.

00:09:07.000 And go ahead and throw this up.

00:09:08.000 This is 352.

00:09:11.000 Marco Rubio, State Department, Secretary of State, has designated Antifa as a foreign terrorist organization.

00:09:18.000 And we're going to bring in Andy No, who is probably the most accomplished, longest-running journalist in the space covering Antifa and all its different permutations and geographies.

00:09:32.000 And he's going to explain why this is important from a legal standpoint.

00:09:37.000 Because as he will explain, there is one thing to sign an executive order designating Antifa as a domestic terror organization, but this unlocks extraordinary legal powers when you're able to say, hey, they're a foreign terrorist organization as well.

00:09:53.000 So across the board, we've got more examples.

00:09:56.000 We are seeing the admin take action on the things that we've been talking about on the show that you've been talking about and emailing us about.

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00:11:15.000 We got an email from Melissa.

00:11:16.000 Michael, do you still have that?

00:11:18.000 Yeah.

00:11:19.000 This is pretty good.

00:11:20.000 I love it.

00:11:21.000 I was actually like, yes, please.

00:11:23.000 Stop calling Tyler Robinson the gentleman who killed Charlie.

00:11:26.000 Gentleman, come on, guys. 1.00

00:11:28.000 He's a thug, murderer, and a sick, demented freak. 1.00

00:11:31.000 My message to Melissa, agreed. 1.00

00:11:34.000 Noted.

00:11:35.000 Noted.

00:11:36.000 Agreed.

00:11:37.000 Yes.

00:11:38.000 Agreed.

00:11:39.000 So the change will be made.

00:11:40.000 Absorbed, internalized.

00:11:42.000 Thank you.

00:11:44.000 The Blake, I want to get your reaction to a clip because again, you have to give credit where it's due.

00:11:51.000 When people are actually listening to you, we have to not only be a squeaky wheel that gets to Greece.

00:11:57.000 We have to say thank you for listening.

00:11:58.000 This is Stephen Miller, who I think just absolutely nailed it.

00:11:58.000 All right.

00:12:03.000 375.

00:12:04.000 We're focusing relentlessly on affordability.

00:12:06.000 So President Trump's working to bring down the cost of living even more than he already has.

00:12:11.000 So Thanksgiving meals are going to be 25% cheaper.

00:12:14.000 But President Trump is not content with that.

00:12:16.000 He is fighting to bring down the cost of every single consumer and household good.

00:12:20.000 And the tax bill is going to be a huge part of this.

00:12:22.000 Because when we make life more affordable for our companies, for domestic industry, for domestic manufacturing, with 100% expensing, with the largest tax cuts in history, then prices are going to keep coming down.

00:12:35.000 And proof, proof, Blake?

00:12:38.000 I decided I wanted to link two together.

00:12:40.000 368.

00:12:41.000 Target is dropping prices ahead of the holidays.

00:12:44.000 The company announcing reduced costs on 3,000 food, beverage, and essential items starting this month.

00:12:50.000 Target is also bringing back its Thanksgiving meal at its lowest price ever.

00:12:55.000 The deal gives customers a complete dinner with all your holiday favorites for less than $5 per person.

00:13:02.000 All right, Blake.

00:13:04.000 Thoughts?

00:13:05.000 So I don't want to overreact to a specific target.

00:13:08.000 It's good.

00:13:09.000 I'm glad they're doing it, but it's one store.

00:13:13.000 I think I'm more optimistic about seeing the fall in rental prices, which some people are saying, oh, that might be a concern too.

00:13:20.000 And, you know, people have their leveraged rental, whatever.

00:13:24.000 But the point is, is like, what have people complained?

00:13:26.000 They've complained.

00:13:27.000 Prices are high.

00:13:28.000 So you want to look at the high-level things.

00:13:30.000 What do they spend the most on?

00:13:31.000 The biggest expense for the vast majority of people is their housing.

00:13:35.000 And right now, the cost to get a rental in the United States is going down everywhere in the country.

00:13:42.000 In the long run, people will feel that.

00:13:45.000 The drop is actually not a lot, but we also have inflation.

00:13:48.000 So if you're holding even, if the price of housing is holding even and inflation is going up a few percent a year, that's effectively like a 3% cut in the cost of housing.

00:13:59.000 And people have seen it only go up for years and years on end, especially since COVID.

00:14:04.000 And I think we're seeing where once you stop the endless flood of demand into the country, things are getting better.

00:14:12.000 Things are getting more affordable.

00:14:13.000 Yeah, yeah, I agree with you, Blake.

00:14:15.000 I'm actually more interested in seeing rents drop, but then also how many homes we're building, interest rates dropping.

00:14:22.000 The biggest win for the economy and for young people in general is just deportations. 0.99

00:14:28.000 2 million plus deportations, self-deportations.

00:14:31.000 This has a direct impact on costs going down, on rent going down, on affordability just in general in the United States.

00:14:40.000 But then also as a young couple, there's something about buying a house, being able to walk around your neighborhood safely with the, you know, back in your psyche, knowing that there's less illegals now. 0.53

00:14:51.000 There's less criminals in this country now.

00:14:54.000 But then also back to just Antifa.

00:14:56.000 I want to really praise Harmeet Dylan and also the FBI who put out the website for tips.

00:15:02.000 At the same time as we're deporting all these illegals and criminals in our country, we want to find the active criminals that are part of Antifa. 0.54

00:15:11.000 And we're going to keep talking about that later in the show.

00:15:14.000 But we want justice for that.

00:15:16.000 And the administration is on point on multiple fronts with housing, deportations.

00:15:22.000 Well, think about it.

00:15:23.000 Think about it from this perspective.

00:15:24.000 You know, about a year ago, we were, our FBI was targeting us.

00:15:31.000 Yeah.

00:15:31.000 You know, Turning Point USA was getting spied on.

00:15:34.000 And now the FBI is putting out tip lines to target to find Antifa thugs that were attacking, assaulting, and trying to disrupt our event in UC Berkeley.

00:15:34.000 Yeah.

00:15:47.000 Yeah, and how fast they came after the January 6ers. 0.99

00:15:51.000 We're going to come after the real Antifa criminals fast.

00:15:55.000 We're going to find each and every one of you with geo-tracking.

00:15:59.000 If you spit on our attendees, if you attacked our attendees, like this is disgusting stuff that happened two months after Charlie's assassination at our event at Berkeley.

00:16:08.000 We're not going to stand for it.

00:16:10.000 We're very upset, and we want to see accountability and justice.

00:16:14.000 You know, Blake, just real quick, actually, Danny on our team makes a good point that according to the polls, you know, you're right, rent is probably a larger bucket of cost for the average person.

00:16:27.000 But from a pure polling standpoint, 378, if you show this, it's bipartisan that the number one issue for most people is inflation cost of living, and that is cost of goods, groceries, gas, those sorts of things tend to leave potentially a bigger emotional impact.

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00:17:50.000 I'm very excited about the next guest that we're going to have on the show here, and that is Andy No.

00:17:56.000 He's a reporter for the post-millennial.

00:17:58.000 He's also the author of the book Unmasked, Inside Antifa's Radical Plan to Destroy Democracy.

00:18:05.000 And you can also check out his writings at NoComment, which I think is great, but it's ngocomment.com.

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00:18:15.000 Andy No, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:18:17.000 It's good to see you, my friend.

00:18:18.000 Thank you so much for having me on.

00:18:21.000 It's been a while.

00:18:22.000 I haven't seen you for many moons now, Andy, but it's great to see you and great to have you.

00:18:27.000 And you've been doing tremendous work covering, I mean, you've always done tremendous work covering Antifa.

00:18:33.000 You've been one of the most fearless journalists about this.

00:18:36.000 And you have a new piece where you're talking about this huge development where Secretary of State Marco Rubio and the Trump administration have designated them as a foreign terrorist organization.

00:18:48.000 And you have a great write-up on the Postmillennial about this.

00:18:52.000 Explain to our audience that might be a little unsure of why this is important versus the previous executive order that designated a domestic terror group.

00:19:02.000 Thank you for having me on.

00:19:04.000 So when I spoke at the White House roundtable on Antifa, one of the things that I suggested to the president and his cabinet that they could do is to look at the international networks and organizations within Antifa and to designate the applicable ones as FTOs, foreign terrorist organizations.

00:19:26.000 And why that's so important is because unlike the categorization of domestic terrorism, there's actually legislation in a legal category of a foreign terrorist organization.

00:19:41.000 And the announcement from Secretary Rubio with Antifa Ost and three other European-based Antifa groups and networks being declared FTOs, these are now on the same category as ISIS, as al-Qaeda, and other proscribed terrorist groups that your listeners and viewers may have heard of.

00:20:02.000 This is very different than when people in the administration talking about Antifa being domestic terrorists.

00:20:09.000 And the key difference is that there's actually no legal category in the U.S. for domestic terrorism in terms of like a group cannot be declared that way and then be banned.

00:20:23.000 So the executive order describes Antifa as such, but it's not like a law that would ban providing support for Antifa domestically or to have membership in a violent group that's within the Antifa network.

00:20:38.000 And that's because of First Amendment protections.

00:20:40.000 I'm speaking to you from London now and in my travels in the UK and Europe.

00:20:45.000 When I speak to liberals or leftists, they say, well, how come the U.S. hasn't banned the KKK or like neo-Nazi groups?

00:20:56.000 And the reason is the First Amendment has been interpreted through the courts to provide very wide protections for associations.

00:21:05.000 But that doesn't mean that the executive orders and what the administration now is doing domestically doesn't matter.

00:21:12.000 There's been, very importantly, at the federal level, the DOJ was able to get two indictments against alleged members of an Antifa cell in North Texas indicted on providing material support to terrorism.

00:21:27.000 You see, so like that's where that focus that the administration has on antifun terrorism matters rather than the label of domestic terrorists.

00:21:38.000 But going back to FTO, it's the first time in U.S. history that the U.S. government has declared any Antifa-associated group as being officially terrorists.

00:21:52.000 So, yeah, and you write in the post-millennial, you said the FTO label is not symbolic.

00:21:57.000 It's a legal tool under U.S. law enabling sanctions against individuals associated with the groups, asset freezes, travel bans, and criminal penalties for membership or providing material support.

00:22:08.000 In short, it's how it's now a federal crime to belong to or assist the four violent Antifa anarchist groups that were labeled.

00:22:16.000 And there's some in Greece, in Italy, in Germany that you outline in there.

00:22:21.000 Now, I want to bring our attention back domestically, though, Andy, because at this UC Berkeley event, I noticed that there, at least from the videos I saw, there wasn't many of these Antifa thugs wearing black block, right?

00:22:35.000 It is intentionally decentralized.

00:22:37.000 It is intentionally without hierarchy, at least, you know, on a spreadsheet and an org chart, right?

00:22:45.000 So what is the way that these groups are organized domestically?

00:22:50.000 And they're going to shift their tactics as the government attempts to crack down on them.

00:22:55.000 Where do you see this going?

00:22:56.000 And what can you just explain to us about the hierarchy question?

00:23:01.000 So for the last five years, within the organized militant Antifa American groups, such as Rose City Antifa and other groups that are within the Torch Antifa Network in cities like New York, Asheville, Philadelphia, they've moved more underground.

00:23:17.000 You'll see that they have been posting a lot less on social media.

00:23:21.000 When they have had a presence at direct actions, they no longer show the logos and symbols of their particular organization.

00:23:30.000 And I think that's because they've seen in some jurisdictions there's been ongoing domestic terrorism investigations, like in the state of Georgia, where 61 people were indicted on domestic terrorism charges.

00:23:47.000 There was a cell in San Diego County where 12 members of SoCal Antifa were convicted, either at trial or through plea deals.

00:24:00.000 So they're trying to go underground and bunker down until there's a Democrat administration where they can come out.

00:24:08.000 But whether or not they're underground, it doesn't mean they don't exist and they don't organize.

00:24:13.000 And a lot of the terrorism that Antifa does involves people who are actually not going to their meetings or have not been through their particular cell vetting process.

00:24:24.000 And that's the decentralized nature of a lot of terrorist groups, actually internationally as well, in that they put out the ideology online, or there are certain social media accounts that put out the propaganda.

00:24:38.000 And the goal is to get fellow travelers, sympathizers, or ideologues to go and do something, just show up, show up, and commit violence.

00:24:48.000 And I think that was seen in some part at what happened at UC Berkeley.

00:24:53.000 This is their playbook.

00:24:55.000 They call the targets fascists and Nazis and use inflammatory rhetoric and lies and get a mob to show up and create an environment where people, their comrades, are encouraged to commit assaults or intimidate or harass or to rob their particular targets.

00:25:14.000 And going back to the four groups that have been declared FTOs, I think it's important to talk about what they have done in Europe.

00:25:22.000 These groups have not been proscribed because of ideology.

00:25:28.000 And if people read my article piece or they look at what the State Department put out, one of the groups is Antifa Ost, which translates to Antifa Eats.

00:25:37.000 And they're a Germany-based Antifa group where their method of attack is to mob beat their targets with batons and hammers.

00:25:46.000 And they go specifically for breaking bones, smashing skulls open.

00:25:51.000 Some of their members have been convicted of aggravated assault and attempted murder.

00:25:57.000 Some of the other groups that were declared FTOs based in Italy and in Greece have been involved in bombings, in shootings, shootings of CEOs, and bombings of police stations.

00:26:09.000 So these are terrorist groups.

00:26:11.000 And yet we still see some leftists coming out, unsurprisingly, to defend Antifa in the wake of this announcement from the State Department.

00:26:20.000 Yeah, looking at the FBI's definition for terrorism, it's the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce the government, civilian population, or any segment thereof in furtherance of political or social objectives.

00:26:33.000 So there, if it's the definition of terrorism, that's exactly what we saw at UC Berkeley.

00:26:37.000 Charlie used to always say that people would hide their face when they secretly know that what they're doing is wrong.

00:26:43.000 And so these people know that what they're doing is wrong.

00:26:45.000 They secretly know that this is terrorism.

00:26:47.000 But my question to you, Andy, is how are these people communicating with each other?

00:26:52.000 They have a tendency to show up in mass numbers.

00:26:56.000 Who's secretly funding this stuff?

00:26:58.000 How are they all getting funded?

00:27:00.000 I just don't feel like we always get the answers to this.

00:27:02.000 I'd love any insight that you have on that.

00:27:04.000 So the communications amongst the cells is primarily done through signal.

00:27:09.000 And we can know that by looking at what's come out at trials and in criminal indictments.

00:27:15.000 Going back to the Texas Terror attack on the ICE facility in Elvirado on the 4th of July, they were able to get into the signal communications of the members of this North Texas Antifa cell, and each one had aliases.

00:27:32.000 And in the SoCal Antifa case in San Diego last year, when that went to trial, the evidence came out, Signal was also used.

00:27:39.000 That is primarily the mode of communication.

00:27:42.000 They use burner phones, aliases, obviously, and then they create ad hoc group chats for different purposes on Signal.

00:27:51.000 Regarding the funding, there's always a nexus of registered nonprofits.

00:27:59.000 And Azer Nomani has a good piece that came out two days ago on Fox News about one of the nonprofits that was involved in organizing the UC Berkeley direct action.

00:28:14.000 But a lot of the funding is also through essentially what is just crowdfunding.

00:28:19.000 The extreme far left are great at crowdfunding.

00:28:23.000 They create GoFundMes, they have cash app handles, Venmo handles, PayPal even.

00:28:31.000 And those types.

00:28:33.000 So a lot of it is done in places that law enforcement can track.

00:28:39.000 And in my reporting, and what I hope that the FBI starts paying attention to now that they have a directive from the executive that Antifa is domestic are domestic terrorists is to look into the sources of funding.

00:28:56.000 We're not talking about dark money and crypto and things like that, although that may be part of it.

00:29:02.000 For the most part, it's through people organizing these campaigns and sharing the latency.

00:29:08.000 You and your listeners and viewers are familiar with those huge fundraisers to raise bail money for riot suspects.

00:29:14.000 I wish we had you for more time, but that's Andy No, reporter for the post-millennial, author of Unmasked, and you can check him out at his Substack No Comment NGO Comet.

00:29:23.000 Thank you, Andy.

00:29:24.000 No, so good to see you.

00:29:25.000 Thank you.

00:29:29.000 Thanksgiving holds so many memories, and I'm sure it's the same for you.

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00:30:30.000 I'm going to play a piece from Charlie.

00:30:36.000 And actually, there's, I see two numbers here.

00:30:38.000 It's the video, CK on why Antifa, why he considers Antifa terrorists.

00:30:44.000 It says 377. 0.73

00:30:46.000 Why do you call the protesters outside terrorists outside of, say, one broken window?

00:30:52.000 Well, it's more than one broken window, assaulting cops, spray painting, the death threats that they throw at me, the violent intimidation.

00:30:59.000 Don't you think it's bigoted to call all protesters who are outside as terrorists?

00:30:59.000 But that's not.

00:31:04.000 Why is it bigoted?

00:31:04.000 They're mostly white liberals without jobs.

00:31:07.000 You're calling all protesters terrorists? 0.89

00:31:09.000 I'm calling Antifa out there that are anonymizing their identity, sending death threats to my family, smashing windows, and spray painting the campus the entire week leading up to this terrorist.

00:31:19.000 Yes, I absolutely stand by that.

00:31:20.000 A lot of them are just college students who don't agree with the point of view that you're propagating.

00:31:25.000 Maybe they should have come to the front of the line and asked a question like you and not acted like somebody in a third world country where they settle their differences with gang violence.

00:31:37.000 Blake, feel free. 0.96

00:31:39.000 He was just so great, and it just disgusts me that these parasites are just like, it disgusts me that these parasites in Antifa, like, are basically free in any blue city to roam around and terrorize people. 0.98

00:31:54.000 And like, it feels trite, and yet the truth is they're basically a modern KKK in the truest sense. 0.98

00:32:00.000 Look at what the original KKK did.

00:32:02.000 They were basically a menacing group.

00:32:05.000 They would go around, they would intimidate people, terrorize them.

00:32:08.000 We have a bill.

00:32:09.000 We have the Ku Klux Klan Act, and what it's designed to do is it's designed to go after groups that intimidate people who want to vote, who want to use their freedom of speech.

00:32:18.000 And instead, like we had it used against, I think they used it against friggin' Douglas Mackey because he made a meme that Hillary Clinton didn't like.

00:32:27.000 Why don't we use it against Antifa? 0.76

00:32:29.000 They're a terrorist group to suppress freedom of speech.

00:32:31.000 They should be treated that way.

00:32:33.000 Well said.

00:32:34.000 Yeah.

00:32:34.000 I want to get to a piece of news here, Blake and Mikey, where we talked about Epstein yesterday, and it's been this really beautiful thing to watch because there was an allegation that Jeffrey Epstein said he spent Thanksgiving with President Trump in 2017, which, by the way, I think he was kicked out of Mar-a-Lago in 2007, declared a child predator in 2009.

00:32:59.000 And yet, you know, Bill Clinton and all these types kept hanging out with him.

00:33:03.000 Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, all these types.

00:33:07.000 Larry Summers, apparently, there's a bunch of people that still hung out with him.

00:33:11.000 As far as we know, Trump was not one of them.

00:33:14.000 Okay, but there's been volley after volley trying to tie President Trump to Jeffrey Epstein and this House Oversight, Democrat House Oversight Committee.

00:33:26.000 They leaked these emails trying to do it.

00:33:30.000 Now they're deleting them, which is just so rich.

00:33:33.000 So put up image 366.

00:33:36.000 This was from the Democrats, literally the ex-account, The Democrats.

00:33:40.000 It says, new documents show Donald Trump spent Thanksgiving with Jeffrey Epstein in 2017.

00:33:45.000 At the time, Trump was already president.

00:33:46.000 Epstein already a convicted sex offender.

00:33:49.000 Well, they deleted that.

00:33:52.000 And it's not just the Democrats handle.

00:33:55.000 It's CNN is backtracking as well.

00:33:58.000 Play cut 357.

00:34:00.000 And we do want to be clear.

00:34:01.000 The president Trump did not receive or send any of the messages which largely predated his time as president.

00:34:07.000 He's not been accused of any criminal wrongdoing in connection with Epstein or Maxwell.

00:34:12.000 Oh, okay.

00:34:14.000 So that is legalese, by the way.

00:34:17.000 You know, somebody from corporate was like, please say the following and read this verbatim.

00:34:24.000 This is so great.

00:34:25.000 And then you have people going back and finding Melania Trump's tweet where they were at Thanksgiving.

00:34:30.000 We have this put up 384.

00:34:32.000 So yeah.

00:34:33.000 This is so good.

00:34:34.000 Yeah.

00:34:34.000 So this is President Trump.

00:34:35.000 Melania says, thrilled to spend part of our Thanksgiving with a local Coast Guard station in Florida.

00:34:40.000 Thank you all.

00:34:41.000 Thank you to all the members of the military who keep us safe.

00:34:43.000 Happy Thanksgiving 2017. 0.83

00:34:46.000 And here you got Jeffrey Epstein, a known liar, a convicted liar, saying, oh, yeah, don't worry. 0.96

00:34:51.000 I spent Thanksgiving with Trump. 0.98

00:34:53.000 Go ahead.

00:34:54.000 Well, it just blows my mind.

00:34:55.000 I don't even think he really said it.

00:34:57.000 If you look at the exchange, it's just like, where are you?

00:34:59.000 He says a place, and he's like, who else is there?

00:35:01.000 And he kind of rattles off some names.

00:35:03.000 And so it's sort of like bigger picture.

00:35:06.000 Other people are there. 0.91

00:35:07.000 But it's also just the entire thing is so stupid to go through your head that as president of the United States, Donald Trump would be like able to go anywhere in the United States on a holiday like Thanksgiving, where his every movement is very closely tracked. 0.96

00:35:25.000 Everyone knows where he is. 0.99

00:35:26.000 There's all these rituals that the president does on Thanksgiving.

00:35:28.000 And then he would secretly hang out with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:35:32.000 It's just, it's, there's a word I get in trouble when I use on this show. 1.00

00:35:36.000 It's, it's really stupid. 1.00

00:35:38.000 It's really stupid. 1.00

00:35:41.000 I just, I just think it's amazing that time after time after time. 0.99

00:35:45.000 So what, I mean, let's track the provenance of this whole debate that we're having.

00:35:50.000 So Joe Biden was president for four years.

00:35:53.000 We didn't hear a peep about Jeffrey Epstein.

00:35:55.000 President Trump becomes president, and the base of the Republican Party starts getting very interested in trying to expose a child predator.

00:36:05.000 And, you know, there's some back and forth.

00:36:09.000 Let's just say there's a little bit of a row on the right when it comes to what to do with these docs and the base wanting more.

00:36:15.000 It's only then that the Democrats are like, hmm, maybe we can hop on here.

00:36:19.000 We're going to get involved in this.

00:36:21.000 So then James Comer, a Republican, subpoenas the Epstein estate to get these emails.

00:36:27.000 They come during a government shutdown.

00:36:30.000 They don't coordinate a leak or anything like that, or a release of it.

00:36:35.000 They leak three very suspicious, highly selective emails out of a trove of 20,000.

00:36:43.000 And every single one of them has basically been debunked, ridiculed, and they have had egg on their face completely as a result of this, including the fact that they redacted the name of Virginia Guffery, who testified under oath that President Trump did nothing wrong.

00:37:01.000 And then had, and by the way, we played a clip yesterday of a woman talking about that Virginia Guffery wanted President Trump to be elected because of the transparency with the Jeffrey Epstein case.

00:37:11.000 And that was actually her biographer, apparently.

00:37:13.000 It was a representative for her.

00:37:14.000 So this whole thing has blown up in their face.

00:37:18.000 They were trying to distract from the shutdown, which they got nothing except throwing the country into chaos.

00:37:23.000 And now they have egg on their face.

00:37:25.000 And this is like their fifth time around the Epstein.

00:37:27.000 It's like literally like the fifth time that it's amounted to nothing, but they just kind of bring it up again. 0.98

00:37:33.000 They're gluttons for punishment. 0.97

00:37:34.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

00:37:35.000 They got nothing.

00:37:36.000 Nothing new under the bus.

00:37:36.000 Blake, take us home.

00:37:37.000 20 seconds.

00:37:38.000 It's just the whole thing has become this, it's like a parody unto itself because I actually feel bad.

00:37:47.000 People have pointed out in the emails.

00:37:49.000 We should pause.

00:37:49.000 We should dial back because we're laughing here.

00:37:51.000 But we should remember this is a bad guy who hurt a lot of people.

00:37:55.000 And in D.C., there's just a lot of people who've decided it only matters in the sense of how they can hurt one specific guy.

00:38:02.000 Well said.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - November 14, 2025

ANTIFA, Epstein, and Thanksgiving

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