00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk show, email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com and support the Charlie Kirk Show at charliekirk.com/slash support if you'd like and get involved with Turning PointUSA at tpusa.com.
00:00:12.000Today, we dive into what's happening in China and then John Solomon joins us for the latest at Americopa County.
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00:01:11.000A conservative thinker, author, or writer can probably tell you why government without checks and balances, without a proper structure, can lead to tyranny.
00:01:22.000As conservatives, in kind of the conservative think tank world, it is very well accepted and with a fair amount of detail and sophistication, the conservative intelligentsia can tell you what happens if a government does not respect individual rights.
00:01:41.000However, can most conservatives also tell you what happens when a company is able to have as much power as a government?
00:01:51.000Right now, one of the most important stories happening in the Western world is the most valuable company in the Western world, which is Apple.
00:02:01.000So I am an offender of the highest order of enriching Apple.
00:02:06.000However, we must take a step back and be honest about what Apple is currently doing.
00:02:11.000Not just what Apple is doing in China, but also what Apple is threatening to do to Elon Musk.
00:02:17.000Now, Apple has successfully diversified their business model from controlling the App Store to making hardware laptops and obviously their very successful iPhone to being really controlling the vast majority of podcast market.
00:02:35.000There's so many different sectors that Apple has been able to successfully get into.
00:02:40.000And because of this, they're a multi-trillion dollar company.
00:02:42.000That's right, multi-trillion dollar company.
00:02:44.000Apple is more valuable than several countries in Eastern Europe.
00:02:49.000It's just hard to even wrap your head around.
00:02:50.000In fact, Apple is more valuable than, I think you could combine five or six African countries, just a single private company.
00:02:58.000Apple has now threatened to remove Twitter from the App Store, effectively ending the company if Elon Musk continues on his free speech crusade.
00:03:09.000All the while, Apple has just limited and restricted Airdrop, which is an ability in the midst of protests to share information, share videos, share location, in the midst of all of the anti-CCP protests.
00:03:29.000Right now, Apple, and I say this with a lot of thought, Apple possesses more power than several parts of the federal government.
00:03:42.000Apple is more powerful in many different ways than the Department of Justice, the Federal Trade Commission.
00:03:50.000Apple has the ability to involve themselves in an anti-CCP movement and then all the while say that we are going to act like the CCP in America and prevent Elon Musk from continuing to liberate Twitter.
00:04:08.000Cut 66, Tucker Carlson talks about how Apple has limited the airdrop feature in China, PlayCut 66.
00:04:16.000Earlier this month, Apple did the bidding of the Chinese government to crush domestic protests against the Communist Party there.
00:04:24.000Apple did this by disabling its permanent airdrop feature in China.
00:04:29.000So why did Apple disable that feature in China?
00:04:31.000Well, because that feature, permanent airdrop, allows iPhone users to communicate directly with one another without using the internet or cellular networks, both of which in a totalitarian state like China are controlled by the government.
00:04:45.000And that's why when iPhone users in China began using permanent airdrop to complain about the Communist Party, Apple just shut it down.
00:04:52.000Apple is now an active collaborator with China's murderous police state.
00:04:57.000Someone emailed us freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:04:59.000Michael says, you need to move on from Apple products to set an example.
00:05:05.000I didn't want to act as if I was immune from enriching Apple's ability to grow very powerful over our country.
00:05:12.000And what's so illuminating for conservatives is that for years, we were always told that if we had free markets and lower taxes, that things would solve themselves through natural competition.
00:05:29.000But what happens when a company itself begins to infringe on civil liberties?
00:05:34.000What happens when a company doesn't actually act in their best profit interest, but actually acts in their ideological interest?
00:05:44.000The CEO of Apple, Tim Cook, he is far more interested in protecting and preserving the Leviathan that Apple has become.
00:05:54.000Apple, similar to Google, by the way, has become its own government.
00:05:59.000Now, interestingly enough, throughout the years, if you pay attention to a lot of the tech blogs, and I read the tech blogs here and there, and by the way, if you remember, the great Rush Limbaugh was a massive Apple fan.
00:07:10.000Apple was buying billboard after billboard after billboard, basically saying that we are going to honor your cellular privacy, that we are going to basically do the equivalent of my body my choice.
00:07:24.000It is now going to be my cell phone, my choice.
00:07:28.000Apple for years said that if you have a phone, we're not going to be able to look into it.
00:07:32.000Remember when Apple refused to unlock the iPhone?
00:08:11.000But what Apple will do, so Apple won't unlock iPhones of terrorists in America, but Apple will prevent the speech and the ability to communicate for protesters in mainland China as CCP, but it makes sense.
00:08:24.000Tim Cook doesn't care about civil liberties.
00:08:26.000Tim Cook is the new digital mouse tongue.
00:09:00.000I mean, they're very fixated on doing the right things to avert climate change.
00:09:08.000China is the number one polluter on the planet.
00:09:11.000They have cold-fire power plants all across mainland China.
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00:10:17.000I think I have found my favorite email I have received in the last couple of weeks.
00:10:21.000Charlie, you have to stop using Apple.
00:11:13.000It is based on things that are always true, eternal wisdom.
00:11:17.000James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay understood human nature, and they designed a system of government based on an appropriate analysis of human nature.
00:11:31.000By doing so, they also came, they made a couple truth claims throughout the Constitution.
00:11:36.000And if you read the Declaration of Independence, it in some ways is the kind of prologue to the United States Constitution.
00:11:46.000Talks about how power should not be centralized by one person.
00:11:50.000The Declaration famously starts very, very broad when in the course of human events becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands that have tied them to another.
00:12:08.000And in the Constitution, they went about actually solving the problems that they said the king did this, the king did that, the king did this, the king did that.
00:12:18.000What if I told you that now a private company has the power that we only would fear the government would have?
00:12:26.000That's not to say the government isn't wildly out of control right now.
00:12:30.000We have a fourth branch of government that I sure hope the new Republican Congress is going to make a focus to check imbalance and to restore consent to the governed and separation of powers and legitimate oversight.
00:12:42.000But what's happening with Apple right now is very interesting because very few political leaders, there's some and we're going to play some tape, but there are very few political leaders right now.
00:12:52.000There's a handful of political leaders that actually understand the threat of what would happen if Apple kicked Twitter out of their app store.
00:12:58.000Apple basically is flexing their muscles and they are saying, we are in charge.
00:13:06.000We're the ones that get to decide what applications are able to survive and thrive or cripple and die.
00:13:14.000How is that not monopoly power exactly?
00:13:49.000I think that we have a responsibility as a business to do business in as many places as we can, because I think business is this huge catalyst.
00:14:00.000I believe in what Tom Watson said, is world peace through world trade.
00:14:04.000You have to get your head around when you're operating outside the U.S. in any country in the world, that there are different laws.
00:14:34.000So funding the Chinese Communist Party's ambitions of taking over sub-Saharan Africa and ports of entry all across South America.
00:14:43.000How is that world peace through world trade?
00:14:45.000You see, there are these built-in neoliberal corporate-funded incantations that Donald Trump, to his great credit, I wrote a whole book about it, came in and said, why is it that we have unlimited amounts of people coming into our country?
00:15:10.000No, actually, enriching tyrants does not get you closer to world peace.
00:15:15.000Forced assimilation via globalization and the destruction of individual cultures, language, and borders actually gets you closer towards disintegration and bedlam, not closer towards world peace through world trade.
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00:17:13.000Well, listen, people sometimes forget history real quickly, right?
00:17:16.000Because we live in a fast-paced world.
00:17:17.000But the train wreck that we saw in 2022 has actually been a slow-motion train wreck that started back in 2012.
00:17:24.000And what's interesting is that when the election irregularity problem started in Maricopa County a decade ago, it was the mainstream media and Democrats that were concerned about it.
00:17:33.000In 2012, Arizona Republican called Maricopa County the embarrassment of the United States for its slow election counting, like two weeks of delayed election counting.
00:17:44.0002016, during the primary, such significant problems occurred and people were left in lines for such long hours that the Obama Justice Department sent a letter saying, Hey, what are you guys doing there?
00:17:56.000But no matter what happens, the same issues keep recurring.
00:17:59.000Long lines, problems with machines, inability to vote easily in a state that should be quite easy to vote.
00:18:06.000And so when you ask, how did we get to this point in 2022?
00:18:10.000The answer is it's been a decade coming and it's been this county's repeated inability to fix these problems that continue to erode the confidence of Arizona voters in their own system in their largest county.
00:18:22.000The Obama Justice Department in 2016 sent a letter to Maricopa County saying that the lines were unacceptable.
00:18:39.000We haven't heard anything thus far about that.
00:18:41.000And I think that's what's so interesting about the election integrity issue.
00:18:44.000Democrats were for it until they became against it.
00:18:47.000And I think that sadly, right now, the Democrats are missing an opportunity to join with Republicans and fix systems all across this country that have issues.
00:18:55.000We were the beacon of constitutional republics in the world, the beacon of democracy in the world.
00:19:01.000The idea that we can't count our votes as quickly as other countries who long followed us on this political path is embarrassing.
00:19:08.000And instead of playing politics, both parties could get together, as this happened in Florida or Texas and a few other places and fix these other locations so that every person, Democrat, Republican, Independent, feels good that their vote's going to be counted, that there's not going to be cheating, and it can be done easily.
00:19:40.000No, they're not, but it doesn't seem as if there is a willingness or even an appetite for the recognition that something might have gone wrong.
00:19:50.000It's that when we talk to the Maricopa County supervisors, not talk, but when we, I mean, we do our show and then they respond to us, they blame our show.
00:19:58.000Via the Washington Post, Maricopa County says it is Charlie Kirk's fault that there were long lines on Election Day.
00:20:08.000Your piece talks about, though, that this has been many years in making.
00:20:11.000Helen Purcell, who was the Maricopa County recorder that had the fumble back in 2016, at least she acknowledged that this was not acceptable.
00:20:23.000Now, John, how often do we get lectured by Democrats as, you know, not being on the side of quote-unquote democracy?
00:20:32.000And we are a republic, not a democracy, but let's pretend what they mean is on the voting rights.
00:20:37.000And yet when anywhere between 50 to 150,000 people in Maricopa County are disenfranchised, they're completely silent.
00:20:44.000Yeah, listen, I think that's the issue here, right?
00:20:47.000I think we've played politics too long with this system when, in fact, every American should be invested in having a system that makes it easy to vote and hard to cheat.
00:20:56.000Standing in long lines wasn't something that Charlie Kirk created in 2022.
00:21:00.000It started all the way back in 2016 with the long lines, 2012, with the problems with voting counting that was stretched on for days and the local newspaper was embarrassed by it.
00:21:10.000This has been a 10-year train wreck and the failure of Republicans and Democrats to fix it only erodes not only Americans' confidence in their own system, it erodes the world's confidence in America's great voting system.
00:21:21.000We used to do this so easily and we've made it so complex and we've made it so hard.
00:21:26.000And I think for some reasons we've done so so that one party could take advantage of the rules.
00:21:31.000And I think there has to be a yell-stop moment where we rise above and say, Democrat, Republican, Independent, let's get above that for a second.
00:21:39.000Let's do what's right for this country and get these things fixed.
00:21:42.000It would take but a few hours to sit down and figure out why we don't bring toner to the printers, why we don't count votes regularly, why there were long lines and not enough people to staff lines over the last decade.
00:22:07.000And so in Cut 39, Bill Gates, who is the chairman of the Maricopa County Supervisors, he talks about how printer issues did not impact Republican areas versus Democrat areas.
00:22:27.000Even in Democrat areas, Kerry Lake was winning the Election Day vote.
00:22:31.000Bill Gates doesn't mention this because I think Bill Gates is trying to grovel a little bit because he knows he's under, I think, some very serious.
00:22:42.000He's in some very troubled waters here.
00:22:44.000And if there was an actual Justice Department, boy, these supervisors, I think they would be criminally investigated.
00:23:46.000The mere fact that people were left to go in lines, have to put things in a B box and a D box and get the rigmaroo.
00:23:53.000That's not how American elections are conducted.
00:23:54.000And by the way, for most of our history, we've done this pretty flawlessly.
00:23:59.000I don't know why in the last 10 years we seem to have lost our ability to count votes accurately or to do things consistently and efficiently.
00:24:07.000But it shouldn't matter whether it's a Republican or Democrat vote.
00:24:10.000They should be ashamed that anyone's vote was left in the status that it was on election day, where you had to wait in long lines, fill out things, cancel ballots, do another ballot.
00:24:20.000That's not the way the election system works.
00:24:22.000And they should be saying, it's a euphemism to say this wasn't a perfect election.
00:24:27.000That's like saying, I'm not a crook when you're Richard Nixon.
00:24:29.000At the end of the day, your job was to make voting easy and simple, and they failed to do so.
00:25:08.000The state will do that over the next few days.
00:25:10.000And at that point, the legal challenges of people like Abe Hamaday and Kerry Lake will become ripe, meaning that they'll be to actually go and challenge the certification.
00:25:19.000The challenge to any legal case after an election has already been conducted is you have to be able to show there are enough votes denied you or denied being cast that day that would change the outcome of the election.
00:25:36.000But being unable to get to that threshold, if you can't show it consistently or compellingly, the courts are probably not going to intervene, which means the process now has to begin to make sure, no matter how these two cases work out, and I know both candidates are going to go to court and fight hard for the people of Arizona.
00:25:54.000But when that's over, we have to make sure that 2024 isn't a repeat of 2022, 2020, 2018, 2016, and 2012, because it's like the movie Groundhog Dig.
00:26:04.000We keep repeating this in Maricopa County.
00:26:06.000Well, and then people say, well, Charlie, why don't you fix it?
00:26:08.000Well, it's because you have to have political power to fix it.
00:26:11.000And so we're going to have to recall either Richard or recall Gates or have some very aggressive lawsuits that fix these things once and for all.
00:26:20.000And look, I'll be honest, I think that it's there.
00:26:51.000Ladies and gentlemen of the Board of Supervisors, I was a poll worker.
00:26:56.000And what I will say that I've seen is voters this cycle have in fact been disenfranchised because we as poll workers were not taught how to check out voters at our poll centers.
00:27:10.000And then at my poll center, where we literally had at 7 p.m. on election day, 675 people waiting in line.
00:27:19.000Of those 675, do you know how many came in?
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00:29:34.000What other stories are you keeping an eye on right now?
00:29:37.000We got the Georgia runoff coming up in six days.
00:29:39.000What are other things that you guys are covering closely at Just the News?
00:29:42.000Well, this is something that doesn't mean a lot to a lot of people, but it could have a significant impact on your future pocketbook, your future budget.
00:29:51.000This is a concept that Barack Obama invented in 2009.
00:29:55.000Put a dollar figure on the cost of carbon and its impact on the environment.
00:29:59.000And for most of the last decade, though, it's been controversial.
00:30:02.000That price has been set at $51 per metric ton of carbon released in.
00:30:06.000Well, very quietly with no fanfare, just before Thanksgiving, in an addendum to a regulatory filing that nobody in the real world actually reads, the Biden administration just came back and quadrupled that figure, quadrupled it from $51 to $190 per cubic feet.
00:30:23.000Now you say, all right, that's just a scientific exercise.
00:30:28.000This dollar figure is what's going to be used to impose future taxes and regulatory fees on everything from tailpipe emissions to methane emissions, which they're currently posting on natural gas providers.
00:30:40.000That means your natural gas bill, your gasoline bill is going to get a lot more expensive.
00:30:45.000And remember, last week, Joe Biden, when he was overseas, said, I've decided America is going to pay reparations to all the poor countries in the world for the pollution we imposed on them.
00:30:53.000Well, this dollar figure of $190 will now be the benchmark potentially that the United States will use to pay foreign countries for our quote-unquote pollution.
00:31:21.000The executive state, as we talk so often, bureaucrats do things.
00:31:24.000Now, maybe it will get challenged in the courts.
00:31:26.000In fact, the idea that there is even a social carbon cost regulations being challenged by the state of Louisiana December 7th, Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals is going to hear that challenge.
00:31:36.000But if that prevails, and this dollar figure sits, every new regulation the EPA does on the fossil fuel industry will suddenly have a new fee imposed on it, set at this $190 per cubic feet of carbon.
00:31:48.000So that means natural gas, heating fuel, gasoline in your car, reparations to future countries all could become that four times more expensive based on this calculation.
00:31:59.000It's incredible, and almost no one is talking about it.
00:32:39.000We have example after example of people that hadn't voted, that voted in every election for the last 40 years, but did not vote on 11-8 because of what the Maricopa County supervisors did.
00:32:50.000If this happened in downtown Atlanta or in Philadelphia, there would be widespread calls for a new election.
00:33:00.000I feel that the voters of Arizona, and in particular Maricopa County and Wickenburg, had their votes disenfranchised because Maricopa County had so many problems on election day.
00:33:43.000The election will likely be certified by the governor, the Secretary of State, and the Attorney General.
00:33:49.000And then at that moment, Carrie Lake has her best opportunity to present a robust legal challenge.
00:33:56.000And I know some of you are saying, oh, Charlie, why doesn't she just sue?
00:33:59.000Well, look what happened to Abe Homeday yesterday.
00:34:01.000Abe Hamaday's lawsuit got thrown out by a judge because the judge says we got to wait for the election to be certified before you're able to have a legal challenge.
00:34:09.000So you have to wait, wait, and then the best legal challenge that you could possibly put forward.
00:34:14.000But just to manage expectations, it's going to take a very courageous judge to do anything meaningful here, to do anything substantial.
00:34:22.000But boy, the evidence is just right here.